From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Nov 1 13:39:14 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:39:14 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox In-Reply-To: <508CFECA.18691.5905C48A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <508CF861.6080404@earthlink.net> <508CFECA.18691.5905C48A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: How about a full database that runs anywhere there is browser network/web services. Well, now there is. http://blog.opalang.org/2012/10/dropbox-as-database.html Wonder if this technology can be extended to Skydive or any other of the many Cloud systems out there? Jim From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Nov 1 16:19:29 2012 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 07:19:29 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: , <508CFECA.18691.5905C48A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, Message-ID: <5092E761.13662.701A5962@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Your concept of "full" is a little different to mine. Looking at it, you could extend the technnology to store the data files anywhere on the internet in exactly the same way. It's just a bunch of files stored somewhere which the application has to manage- no BE engine involved. If you want" a full database that runs anywhere there is browser netwrok/web services", there are plenty of mySQL and SQL Server systems out there which do exactly that and they have been around for years. -- Stuart On 1 Nov 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote: > How about a full database that runs anywhere there is browser network/web > services. Well, now there is. > > http://blog.opalang.org/2012/10/dropbox-as-database.html > > Wonder if this technology can be extended to Skydive or any other of the > many Cloud systems out there? > > Jim > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Nov 2 00:40:52 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 22:40:52 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox In-Reply-To: <5092E761.13662.701A5962@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <508CFECA.18691.5905C48A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <5092E761.13662.701A5962@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <818F6B0EC538496CA4F662C85A404CD9@creativesystemdesigns.com> Yes, that is true but you have to either setup the servers and webservers or you have to purchase someone else's services. This way you basically made drop box into a free web server...small only twenty-five GBs, depending how many clients you have delivered to Dropbox or how long you have been a customer, but still adequate for a very simple DB. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:19 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Your concept of "full" is a little different to mine. Looking at it, you could extend the technnology to store the data files anywhere on the internet in exactly the same way. It's just a bunch of files stored somewhere which the application has to manage- no BE engine involved. If you want" a full database that runs anywhere there is browser netwrok/web services", there are plenty of mySQL and SQL Server systems out there which do exactly that and they have been around for years. -- Stuart On 1 Nov 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote: > How about a full database that runs anywhere there is browser network/web > services. Well, now there is. > > http://blog.opalang.org/2012/10/dropbox-as-database.html > > Wonder if this technology can be extended to Skydive or any other of the > many Cloud systems out there? > > Jim > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Nov 2 03:24:13 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 09:24:13 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Message-ID: <001a01cdb8d3$714e4ea0$53eaebe0$@cactus.dk> Hi all Right, nothing "full" here. Besides Amazon has offered such services for years at a professional level and at extremely low costs. Browse to Database here: http://aws.amazon.com/products/ Note that extensive developer support is offered as well: http://aws.amazon.com/code/ If you need a full database in the cloud, go to Azure or have your own virtual machine. Browse to: Amazon EC2 running Microsoft SQL Server http://aws.amazon.com/windows/ /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan Sendt: 1. november 2012 22:19 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Your concept of "full" is a little different to mine. Looking at it, you could extend the technnology to store the data files anywhere on the internet in exactly the same way. It's just a bunch of files stored somewhere which the application has to manage- no BE engine involved. If you want" a full database that runs anywhere there is browser netwrok/web services", there are plenty of mySQL and SQL Server systems out there which do exactly that and they have been around for years. -- Stuart On 1 Nov 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote: > How about a full database that runs anywhere there is browser > network/web services. Well, now there is. > > http://blog.opalang.org/2012/10/dropbox-as-database.html > > Wonder if this technology can be extended to Skydive or any other of > the many Cloud systems out there? > > Jim > T From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 03:53:33 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 04:53:33 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions Message-ID: I have been developing an app that is highly dependent on TVs. I have recently read in more than one place that the TV control has been deprecated. 1. Is this true? If so, then I am wasting my time trying to figure this out. 2. If this is not true, then I am still struggling with a problem -- 90% of my code works but 10% fails, and it is not easy to see why. I have implanted a bunch of Debug.Print statements, but these have proven less than helpful. If anybody here knows a lot about TVs, I beg for assistance. I will send you the app off-list and invite that invaluable "second set of eyes". (I can't begin to enumerate how many times a Second Set of Eyes has isolated the problem, and in about 20 seconds or fewer! So if anybody knows stuff about TVs, kindly throw a lifeline off the starboard and I shall eagerly swim toward it. Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Nov 2 08:36:35 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 06:36:35 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <661C9E6D2886462F9C6C95D43D976027@creativesystemdesigns.com> A little more information is required. Are you talking about old TVs or Flat screen type entertainment centers. Of course it depends on your provider whether through cable, direct, through the internet or via local entertainment center... It does sound interesting what you are doing. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:54 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions I have been developing an app that is highly dependent on TVs. I have recently read in more than one place that the TV control has been deprecated. 1. Is this true? If so, then I am wasting my time trying to figure this out. 2. If this is not true, then I am still struggling with a problem -- 90% of my code works but 10% fails, and it is not easy to see why. I have implanted a bunch of Debug.Print statements, but these have proven less than helpful. If anybody here knows a lot about TVs, I beg for assistance. I will send you the app off-list and invite that invaluable "second set of eyes". (I can't begin to enumerate how many times a Second Set of Eyes has isolated the problem, and in about 20 seconds or fewer! So if anybody knows stuff about TVs, kindly throw a lifeline off the starboard and I shall eagerly swim toward it. Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Nov 2 09:03:54 2012 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:03:54 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions In-Reply-To: <661C9E6D2886462F9C6C95D43D976027@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <661C9E6D2886462F9C6C95D43D976027@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <5093D2CA.12601.73B1EADA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> He had me guessing for the a while there too. The subject line says it all TV <> Television. TV = Treeview :-) -- Stuart On 2 Nov 2012 at 6:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > A little more information is required. > > Are you talking about old TVs or Flat screen type entertainment centers. Of > course it depends on your provider whether through cable, direct, through > the internet or via local entertainment center... > > It does sound interesting what you are doing. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:54 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions > > I have been developing an app that is highly dependent on TVs. I have > recently read in more than one place that the TV control has been > deprecated. > > 1. Is this true? If so, then I am wasting my time trying to figure this out. > 2. If this is not true, then I am still struggling with a problem -- 90% of > my code works but 10% fails, and it is not easy to see why. I have > implanted a bunch of Debug.Print statements, but these have proven less > than helpful. > > If anybody here knows a lot about TVs, I beg for assistance. I will send > you the app off-list and invite that invaluable "second set of eyes". (I > can't begin to enumerate how many times a Second Set of Eyes has isolated > the problem, and in about 20 seconds or fewer! > > So if anybody knows stuff about TVs, kindly throw a lifeline off the > starboard and I shall eagerly swim toward it. > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 08:58:35 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:58:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless Message-ID: Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite sculpture as this: The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well-developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. -- Peter Medawar Arthur From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 09:07:15 2012 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:07:15 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless References: Message-ID: Or... The highly educated often have more facts in their head than thoughts. -- Susan Harkins :) Susan H. > Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I > dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite > sculpture as this: > > The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a > large population of people, often with well-developed literary and > scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to > undertake analytical thought. > > -- Peter Medawar > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Nov 4 09:45:36 2012 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 07:45:36 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Seems a bit supercilious doesn't it? I'm guessing that Peter probably doesn't include himself among those incapable of analytical thought commensurate with this education. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 6:59 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite sculpture as this: The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well-developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. -- Peter Medawar Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Nov 4 09:45:23 2012 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:45:23 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50968D93.5080007@earthlink.net> On 2012-11-04 8:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I > dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite > sculpture as this: > > The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a > large population of people, often with well-developed literary and > scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to > undertake analytical thought. > > -- Peter Medawar Interesting. http://www.online-utility.org/english/readability_test_and_improve.jsp gives that sentence a Fox Index of 27. The Fog Index is said to indicate the number of years of formal education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text on first reading. Many decades ago, a secretary (yep, that long ago) was quietly cursing a paper she was typing into the computer. When she was done, I put it through that year's version of the Fog Index. It said understanding the paper would require 82 years of education. By way of contrast, the first para of our book, which you wrote, gets a Fog Index of 10. Seems you accomplished your goal. PB > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Nov 4 09:46:29 2012 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:46:29 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50968DD5.9050900@earthlink.net> On 2012-11-04 9:07 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Or... > > The highly educated often have more facts in their head than thoughts. > -- Susan Harkins :) Facts and unfacts :-) . PB ----- > > Susan H. > > >> Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I >> dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite >> sculpture as this: >> >> The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a >> large population of people, often with well-developed literary and >> scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to >> undertake analytical thought. >> >> -- Peter Medawar >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 4 11:31:00 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:31:00 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: <50968D93.5080007@earthlink.net> References: <50968D93.5080007@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6F8A782008F2440C8C7FEC2C273B2D99@creativesystemdesigns.com> "Our book" ? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:45 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless On 2012-11-04 8:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I > dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite > sculpture as this: > > The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a > large population of people, often with well-developed literary and > scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to > undertake analytical thought. > > -- Peter Medawar Interesting. http://www.online-utility.org/english/readability_test_and_improve.jsp gives that sentence a Fox Index of 27. The Fog Index is said to indicate the number of years of formal education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text on first reading. Many decades ago, a secretary (yep, that long ago) was quietly cursing a paper she was typing into the computer. When she was done, I put it through that year's version of the Fog Index. It said understanding the paper would require 82 years of education. By way of contrast, the first para of our book, which you wrote, gets a Fog Index of 10. Seems you accomplished your goal. PB > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 4 11:35:09 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:35:09 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And the reverse is also true. Education is not a sign of intelligence. A good education is designed to give a person to tools with which to reason. It is not always successful. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless Or... The highly educated often have more facts in their head than thoughts. -- Susan Harkins :) Susan H. > Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I > dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite > sculpture as this: > > The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a > large population of people, often with well-developed literary and > scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to > undertake analytical thought. > > -- Peter Medawar > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Nov 4 13:03:33 2012 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 13:03:33 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: <6F8A782008F2440C8C7FEC2C273B2D99@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <50968D93.5080007@earthlink.net> <6F8A782008F2440C8C7FEC2C273B2D99@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <5096BC05.40604@earthlink.net> On 2012-11-04 11:31 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > "Our book" ? > > Jim http://www.artfulsoftware.com/ PB ----- > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:45 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless > > On 2012-11-04 8:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: >> Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I >> dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite >> sculpture as this: >> >> The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a >> large population of people, often with well-developed literary and >> scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to >> undertake analytical thought. >> >> -- Peter Medawar > Interesting. > http://www.online-utility.org/english/readability_test_and_improve.jsp > gives that sentence a Fox Index of 27. > > The Fog Index is said to indicate the number of years of formal > education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text > on first reading. Many decades ago, a secretary (yep, that long ago) was > quietly cursing a paper she was typing into the computer. When she was > done, I put it through that year's version of the Fog Index. It said > understanding the paper would require 82 years of education. > > By way of contrast, the first para of our book, which you wrote, gets a > Fog Index of 10. Seems you accomplished your goal. > > PB > > > > >> Arthur >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 4 14:11:28 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:11:28 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: <5096BC05.40604@earthlink.net> References: <50968D93.5080007@earthlink.net><6F8A782008F2440C8C7FEC2C273B2D99@creativesystemdesigns.com> <5096BC05.40604@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5D77F4EC89B84163AE53B4630043B897@creativesystemdesigns.com> Ahh, yes excellent subject. Have you ever considered doing a matching book using Postgres? As this database seem to be the next step in OS SQL database evolution. Right now Larry is in the process of throttling the goose to wring out the last drop of profit, MySQL adoption has gone totally flat and at least three or four forks are now under development, until king Larry sues them to oblivion. New developers are looking for the next set of options and Postgres is really hot now. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless On 2012-11-04 11:31 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > "Our book" ? > > Jim http://www.artfulsoftware.com/ PB ----- > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:45 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless > > On 2012-11-04 8:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: >> Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I >> dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite >> sculpture as this: >> >> The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a >> large population of people, often with well-developed literary and >> scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to >> undertake analytical thought. >> >> -- Peter Medawar > Interesting. > http://www.online-utility.org/english/readability_test_and_improve.jsp > gives that sentence a Fox Index of 27. > > The Fog Index is said to indicate the number of years of formal > education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text > on first reading. Many decades ago, a secretary (yep, that long ago) was > quietly cursing a paper she was typing into the computer. When she was > done, I put it through that year's version of the Fog Index. It said > understanding the paper would require 82 years of education. > > By way of contrast, the first para of our book, which you wrote, gets a > Fog Index of 10. Seems you accomplished your goal. > > PB > > > > >> Arthur >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 4 14:13:01 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:13:01 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions In-Reply-To: <5093D2CA.12601.73B1EADA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <661C9E6D2886462F9C6C95D43D976027@creativesystemdesigns.com> <5093D2CA.12601.73B1EADA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <239E4538E51F4852B96EB1488F961BC3@creativesystemdesigns.com> In that case it's a dead interface if it can not be represented in .Net. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 7:04 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions He had me guessing for the a while there too. The subject line says it all TV <> Television. TV = Treeview :-) -- Stuart On 2 Nov 2012 at 6:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > A little more information is required. > > Are you talking about old TVs or Flat screen type entertainment centers. Of > course it depends on your provider whether through cable, direct, through > the internet or via local entertainment center... > > It does sound interesting what you are doing. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:54 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions > > I have been developing an app that is highly dependent on TVs. I have > recently read in more than one place that the TV control has been > deprecated. > > 1. Is this true? If so, then I am wasting my time trying to figure this out. > 2. If this is not true, then I am still struggling with a problem -- 90% of > my code works but 10% fails, and it is not easy to see why. I have > implanted a bunch of Debug.Print statements, but these have proven less > than helpful. > > If anybody here knows a lot about TVs, I beg for assistance. I will send > you the app off-list and invite that invaluable "second set of eyes". (I > can't begin to enumerate how many times a Second Set of Eyes has isolated > the problem, and in about 20 seconds or fewer! > > So if anybody knows stuff about TVs, kindly throw a lifeline off the > starboard and I shall eagerly swim toward it. > > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 4 14:27:40 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox In-Reply-To: <001a01cdb8d3$714e4ea0$53eaebe0$@cactus.dk> References: <001a01cdb8d3$714e4ea0$53eaebe0$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <53EFE6A722EB41C1B6001D8EDD1999C6@creativesystemdesigns.com> Amazon seems to be leading contender in the Cloud world. Docummentation suggests they support Java, PHP, Python, Ruby, Windows with .NET (C# and VB) and now a version of MongoDB (No SQL/Map Reduce) along with their version of SQL Database (Amazon RDS). They also support virtual drive drag and drop capabilities. Have you have any experience with deploying Cloud applications? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:24 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Hi all Right, nothing "full" here. Besides Amazon has offered such services for years at a professional level and at extremely low costs. Browse to Database here: http://aws.amazon.com/products/ Note that extensive developer support is offered as well: http://aws.amazon.com/code/ If you need a full database in the cloud, go to Azure or have your own virtual machine. Browse to: Amazon EC2 running Microsoft SQL Server http://aws.amazon.com/windows/ /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan Sendt: 1. november 2012 22:19 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Your concept of "full" is a little different to mine. Looking at it, you could extend the technnology to store the data files anywhere on the internet in exactly the same way. It's just a bunch of files stored somewhere which the application has to manage- no BE engine involved. If you want" a full database that runs anywhere there is browser netwrok/web services", there are plenty of mySQL and SQL Server systems out there which do exactly that and they have been around for years. -- Stuart On 1 Nov 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote: > How about a full database that runs anywhere there is browser > network/web services. Well, now there is. > > http://blog.opalang.org/2012/10/dropbox-as-database.html > > Wonder if this technology can be extended to Skydive or any other of > the many Cloud systems out there? > > Jim > T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Nov 4 14:46:35 2012 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 14:46:35 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: <5D77F4EC89B84163AE53B4630043B897@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <50968D93.5080007@earthlink.net><6F8A782008F2440C8C7FEC2C273B2D99@creativesystemdesigns.com> <5096BC05.40604@earthlink.net> <5D77F4EC89B84163AE53B4630043B897@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <5096D42B.2090408@earthlink.net> On 2012-11-04 2:11 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Ahh, yes excellent subject. > > Have you ever considered doing a matching book using Postgres? As this > database seem to be the next step in OS SQL database evolution. > > Right now Larry is in the process of throttling the goose to wring out the > last drop of profit, MySQL adoption has gone totally flat and at least three > or four forks are now under development, until king Larry sues them to > oblivion. New developers are looking for the next set of options and > Postgres is really hot now. > > Jim Hi Jim, Interesting. Can you perchance point me at some market share numbers? P. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:04 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless > > On 2012-11-04 11:31 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> "Our book" ? >> >> Jim > http://www.artfulsoftware.com/ > > PB > > ----- > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:45 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless >> >> On 2012-11-04 8:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: >>> Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I >>> dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite >>> sculpture as this: >>> >>> The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a >>> large population of people, often with well-developed literary and >>> scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to >>> undertake analytical thought. >>> >>> -- Peter Medawar >> Interesting. >> http://www.online-utility.org/english/readability_test_and_improve.jsp >> gives that sentence a Fox Index of 27. >> >> The Fog Index is said to indicate the number of years of formal >> education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text >> on first reading. Many decades ago, a secretary (yep, that long ago) was >> quietly cursing a paper she was typing into the computer. When she was >> done, I put it through that year's version of the Fog Index. It said >> understanding the paper would require 82 years of education. >> >> By way of contrast, the first para of our book, which you wrote, gets a >> Fog Index of 10. Seems you accomplished your goal. >> >> PB >> >> >> >> >>> Arthur >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Nov 4 15:33:32 2012 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 07:33:32 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions In-Reply-To: <239E4538E51F4852B96EB1488F961BC3@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: , <5093D2CA.12601.73B1EADA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <239E4538E51F4852B96EB1488F961BC3@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <5096DF2C.28214.7F9A2CB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> First I've heard of it being depreciated. Nothing here about that: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.controls.treeview.aspx .NET Framework Supported in: 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3.0 .NET Framework Client Profile Supported in: 4, 3.5 SP1 Platforms Windows 8, Windows Server 2012, Windows 7, Windows Vista SP2, Windows Server 2008 (Server Core Role not supported), Windows Server 2008 R2 And Jim, even if it were not represented in .Net, that certainly doesn't mean it is a "dead interface". It's still a standard "common control" and accessible through the Windows API for developers using development environments other than .Net such as . C/C++. ( and PowerBasic ) See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb759988%28v=vs.85%29.aspx -- Stuart On 4 Nov 2012 at 12:13, Jim Lawrence wrote: > In that case it's a dead interface if it can not be represented in .Net. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 7:04 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions > > He had me guessing for the a while there too. > > The subject line says it all TV <> Television. TV = Treeview :-) > > -- > Stuart > > On 2 Nov 2012 at 6:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > A little more information is required. > > > > Are you talking about old TVs or Flat screen type entertainment centers. > Of > > course it depends on your provider whether through cable, direct, through > > the internet or via local entertainment center... > > > > It does sound interesting what you are doing. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:54 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions > > > > I have been developing an app that is highly dependent on TVs. I have > > recently read in more than one place that the TV control has been > > deprecated. > > > > 1. Is this true? If so, then I am wasting my time trying to figure this > out. > > 2. If this is not true, then I am still struggling with a problem -- 90% > of > > my code works but 10% fails, and it is not easy to see why. I have > > implanted a bunch of Debug.Print statements, but these have proven less > > than helpful. > > > > If anybody here knows a lot about TVs, I beg for assistance. I will send > > you the app off-list and invite that invaluable "second set of eyes". (I > > can't begin to enumerate how many times a Second Set of Eyes has isolated > > the problem, and in about 20 seconds or fewer! > > > > So if anybody knows stuff about TVs, kindly throw a lifeline off the > > starboard and I shall eagerly swim toward it. > > > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 17:02:12 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 18:02:12 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: <5096D42B.2090408@earthlink.net> References: <50968D93.5080007@earthlink.net> <6F8A782008F2440C8C7FEC2C273B2D99@creativesystemdesigns.com> <5096BC05.40604@earthlink.net> <5D77F4EC89B84163AE53B4630043B897@creativesystemdesigns.com> <5096D42B.2090408@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I am growing way too old for debates of this sort, but on the other hand my best friend and co-author Peter is almost exactly ten years older than I, and he compels me to plod on. If you have not read Peter's post, then do a Google and learn from an amazing mind. The fact that I have had the privilege to co-author a few books with him, wow I don't even know how to complete this sentence What I am trying to say is that the best friend that I ever had in my life is Peter Brawley. I love him to pieces and this will never go away. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > On 2012-11-04 2:11 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Ahh, yes excellent subject. >> >> Have you ever considered doing a matching book using Postgres? As this >> database seem to be the next step in OS SQL database evolution. >> >> Right now Larry is in the process of throttling the goose to wring out the >> last drop of profit, MySQL adoption has gone totally flat and at least >> three >> or four forks are now under development, until king Larry sues them to >> oblivion. New developers are looking for the next set of options and >> Postgres is really hot now. >> >> Jim >> > > Hi Jim, > > Interesting. Can you perchance point me at some market share numbers? > > P. > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com] >> On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:04 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless >> >> On 2012-11-04 11:31 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> >>> "Our book" ? >>> >>> Jim >>> >> http://www.artfulsoftware.com/ >> >> PB >> >> ----- >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com] >>> On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:45 AM >>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless >>> >>> On 2012-11-04 8:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: >>> >>>> Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I >>>> dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite >>>> sculpture as this: >>>> >>>> The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a >>>> large population of people, often with well-developed literary and >>>> scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to >>>> undertake analytical thought. >>>> >>>> -- Peter Medawar >>>> >>> Interesting. >>> http://www.online-utility.org/**english/readability_test_and_** >>> improve.jsp >>> gives that sentence a Fox Index of 27. >>> >>> The Fog Index is said to indicate the number of years of formal >>> education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text >>> on first reading. Many decades ago, a secretary (yep, that long ago) was >>> quietly cursing a paper she was typing into the computer. When she was >>> done, I put it through that year's version of the Fog Index. It said >>> understanding the paper would require 82 years of education. >>> >>> By way of contrast, the first para of our book, which you wrote, gets a >>> Fog Index of 10. Seems you accomplished your goal. >>> >>> PB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Arthur >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >> >> > ______________________________**_________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Sun Nov 4 18:37:16 2012 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 18:37:16 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions In-Reply-To: <5096DF2C.28214.7F9A2CB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <5093D2CA.12601.73B1EADA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <239E4538E51F4852B96EB1488F961BC3@creativesystemdesigns.com> <5096DF2C.28214.7F9A2CB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <50970A3C.70400@earthlink.net> On 2012-11-04 3:33 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > First I've heard of it being depreciated. Nothing here about that: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.controls.treeview.aspx > > .NET Framework > Supported in: 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3.0 > .NET Framework Client Profile > Supported in: 4, 3.5 SP1 > > Platforms > Windows 8, Windows Server 2012, Windows 7, Windows Vista SP2, Windows Server 2008 > (Server Core Role not supported), Windows Server 2008 R2 > > > And Jim, even if it were not represented in .Net, that certainly doesn't mean it is a "dead > interface". It's still a standard "common control" and accessible through the Windows API for > developers using development environments other than .Net such as . C/C++. ( and > PowerBasic ) There are lots of good good JavaScript, JQuery, HTML5 and even CSS3 treeview controls, all free. PB ----- > > See > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb759988%28v=vs.85%29.aspx > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 4 21:18:51 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:18:51 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless In-Reply-To: References: <50968D93.5080007@earthlink.net><6F8A782008F2440C8C7FEC2C273B2D99@creativesystemdesigns.com><5096BC05.40604@earthlink.net><5D77F4EC89B84163AE53B4630043B897@creativesystemdesigns.com><5096D42B.2090408@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Quit wimping out, you are hardly too old. ;-) JIm -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:02 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless I am growing way too old for debates of this sort, but on the other hand my best friend and co-author Peter is almost exactly ten years older than I, and he compels me to plod on. If you have not read Peter's post, then do a Google and learn from an amazing mind. The fact that I have had the privilege to co-author a few books with him, wow I don't even know how to complete this sentence What I am trying to say is that the best friend that I ever had in my life is Peter Brawley. I love him to pieces and this will never go away. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Peter Brawley wrote: > On 2012-11-04 2:11 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Ahh, yes excellent subject. >> >> Have you ever considered doing a matching book using Postgres? As this >> database seem to be the next step in OS SQL database evolution. >> >> Right now Larry is in the process of throttling the goose to wring out the >> last drop of profit, MySQL adoption has gone totally flat and at least >> three >> or four forks are now under development, until king Larry sues them to >> oblivion. New developers are looking for the next set of options and >> Postgres is really hot now. >> >> Jim >> > > Hi Jim, > > Interesting. Can you perchance point me at some market share numbers? > > P. > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com] >> On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:04 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless >> >> On 2012-11-04 11:31 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> >>> "Our book" ? >>> >>> Jim >>> >> http://www.artfulsoftware.com/ >> >> PB >> >> ----- >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com] >>> On Behalf Of Peter Brawley >>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:45 AM >>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT, definitely, but priceless >>> >>> On 2012-11-04 8:58 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: >>> >>>> Recently I came upon the following sentence, which reminded me of why I >>>> dreamed of becoming a writer; but sadly, never achieved such exquisite >>>> sculpture as this: >>>> >>>> The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a >>>> large population of people, often with well-developed literary and >>>> scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to >>>> undertake analytical thought. >>>> >>>> -- Peter Medawar >>>> >>> Interesting. >>> http://www.online-utility.org/**english/readability_test_and_** >>> improve.jsp >>> gives that sentence a Fox Index of 27. >>> >>> The Fog Index is said to indicate the number of years of formal >>> education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text >>> on first reading. Many decades ago, a secretary (yep, that long ago) was >>> quietly cursing a paper she was typing into the computer. When she was >>> done, I put it through that year's version of the Fog Index. It said >>> understanding the paper would require 82 years of education. >>> >>> By way of contrast, the first para of our book, which you wrote, gets a >>> Fog Index of 10. Seems you accomplished your goal. >>> >>> PB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Arthur >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com >> >> > ______________________________**_________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 4 21:22:36 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:22:36 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions In-Reply-To: <50970A3C.70400@earthlink.net> References: , <5093D2CA.12601.73B1EADA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <239E4538E51F4852B96EB1488F961BC3@creativesystemdesigns.com><5096DF2C.28214.7F9A2CB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <50970A3C.70400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <437280463A5A4AE99A75713B33459F3C@creativesystemdesigns.com> I agree but this is all web based and we have lifted off the desktop. Some fifteen years ago Arthur called me about using TV with that little bit of help I had thought he had gone on to master the intricacies of TV. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 4:37 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions On 2012-11-04 3:33 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > First I've heard of it being depreciated. Nothing here about that: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.controls.treeview.asp x > > .NET Framework > Supported in: 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3.0 > .NET Framework Client Profile > Supported in: 4, 3.5 SP1 > > Platforms > Windows 8, Windows Server 2012, Windows 7, Windows Vista SP2, Windows Server 2008 > (Server Core Role not supported), Windows Server 2008 R2 > > > And Jim, even if it were not represented in .Net, that certainly doesn't mean it is a "dead > interface". It's still a standard "common control" and accessible through the Windows API for > developers using development environments other than .Net such as . C/C++. ( and > PowerBasic ) There are lots of good good JavaScript, JQuery, HTML5 and even CSS3 treeview controls, all free. PB ----- > > See > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb759988%28v=vs.85%2 9.aspx > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 4 21:30:36 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:30:36 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions In-Reply-To: <5096DF2C.28214.7F9A2CB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <5093D2CA.12601.73B1EADA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>, <239E4538E51F4852B96EB1488F961BC3@creativesystemdesigns.com> <5096DF2C.28214.7F9A2CB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <3A2231BAE60342C48075C32684FDA412@creativesystemdesigns.com> I must admit my only use of TV, other than a good ten plus years ago, has been through various JavaScript web implementations Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 1:34 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions First I've heard of it being depreciated. Nothing here about that: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.controls.treeview.asp x .NET Framework Supported in: 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3.0 .NET Framework Client Profile Supported in: 4, 3.5 SP1 Platforms Windows 8, Windows Server 2012, Windows 7, Windows Vista SP2, Windows Server 2008 (Server Core Role not supported), Windows Server 2008 R2 And Jim, even if it were not represented in .Net, that certainly doesn't mean it is a "dead interface". It's still a standard "common control" and accessible through the Windows API for developers using development environments other than .Net such as . C/C++. ( and PowerBasic ) See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb759988%28v=vs.85%2 9.aspx -- Stuart On 4 Nov 2012 at 12:13, Jim Lawrence wrote: > In that case it's a dead interface if it can not be represented in .Net. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 7:04 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions > > He had me guessing for the a while there too. > > The subject line says it all TV <> Television. TV = Treeview :-) > > -- > Stuart > > On 2 Nov 2012 at 6:36, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > A little more information is required. > > > > Are you talking about old TVs or Flat screen type entertainment centers. > Of > > course it depends on your provider whether through cable, direct, through > > the internet or via local entertainment center... > > > > It does sound interesting what you are doing. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:54 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: [dba-Tech] TreeView Questions > > > > I have been developing an app that is highly dependent on TVs. I have > > recently read in more than one place that the TV control has been > > deprecated. > > > > 1. Is this true? If so, then I am wasting my time trying to figure this > out. > > 2. If this is not true, then I am still struggling with a problem -- 90% > of > > my code works but 10% fails, and it is not easy to see why. I have > > implanted a bunch of Debug.Print statements, but these have proven less > > than helpful. > > > > If anybody here knows a lot about TVs, I beg for assistance. I will send > > you the app off-list and invite that invaluable "second set of eyes". (I > > can't begin to enumerate how many times a Second Set of Eyes has isolated > > the problem, and in about 20 seconds or fewer! > > > > So if anybody knows stuff about TVs, kindly throw a lifeline off the > > starboard and I shall eagerly swim toward it. > > > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Mon Nov 5 03:03:01 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:03:01 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Message-ID: <001601cdbb34$5bf77550$13e65ff0$@cactus.dk> Hi Jim We use Amazon for file storage (backup) but I haven't used other services for more than some tests. Recently, however, I used an ASP.NET provider for hosting a small Lightswitch application. Runs great but, of course, not for a limited audience. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 4. november 2012 21:28 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Amazon seems to be leading contender in the Cloud world. Docummentation suggests they support Java, PHP, Python, Ruby, Windows with .NET (C# and VB) and now a version of MongoDB (No SQL/Map Reduce) along with their version of SQL Database (Amazon RDS). They also support virtual drive drag and drop capabilities. Have you have any experience with deploying Cloud applications? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:24 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Hi all Right, nothing "full" here. Besides Amazon has offered such services for years at a professional level and at extremely low costs. Browse to Database here: http://aws.amazon.com/products/ Note that extensive developer support is offered as well: http://aws.amazon.com/code/ If you need a full database in the cloud, go to Azure or have your own virtual machine. Browse to: Amazon EC2 running Microsoft SQL Server http://aws.amazon.com/windows/ /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan Sendt: 1. november 2012 22:19 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Your concept of "full" is a little different to mine. Looking at it, you could extend the technnology to store the data files anywhere on the internet in exactly the same way. It's just a bunch of files stored somewhere which the application has to manage- no BE engine involved. If you want" a full database that runs anywhere there is browser netwrok/web services", there are plenty of mySQL and SQL Server systems out there which do exactly that and they have been around for years. -- Stuart On 1 Nov 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote: > How about a full database that runs anywhere there is browser > network/web services. Well, now there is. > > http://blog.opalang.org/2012/10/dropbox-as-database.html > > Wonder if this technology can be extended to Skydive or any other of > the many Cloud systems out there? > > Jim > T From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Nov 5 11:22:01 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 09:22:01 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox In-Reply-To: <001601cdbb34$5bf77550$13e65ff0$@cactus.dk> References: <001601cdbb34$5bf77550$13e65ff0$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <192ADD6640A344C4AE46AD8966A9D2D9@creativesystemdesigns.com> That sounds very interesting. I would be interested in hearing how you managed the process, at least in some broad stroke. I have not, yet, permanently, moved any clients but am thinking of trying a small couple of month test, like a backup or setting and data for a remote client...like the contents under their user account. The security concerns me and I have been looking at routers and switches with encryption/de-encryption firmware. Software tend to be too slow and as of yet hardware too expensive; for just a test. Have tried a small database but the results were inconclusive and the project has languished as real work takes precedence. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:03 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Hi Jim We use Amazon for file storage (backup) but I haven't used other services for more than some tests. Recently, however, I used an ASP.NET provider for hosting a small Lightswitch application. Runs great but, of course, not for a limited audience. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 4. november 2012 21:28 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Amazon seems to be leading contender in the Cloud world. Docummentation suggests they support Java, PHP, Python, Ruby, Windows with .NET (C# and VB) and now a version of MongoDB (No SQL/Map Reduce) along with their version of SQL Database (Amazon RDS). They also support virtual drive drag and drop capabilities. Have you have any experience with deploying Cloud applications? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:24 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Hi all Right, nothing "full" here. Besides Amazon has offered such services for years at a professional level and at extremely low costs. Browse to Database here: http://aws.amazon.com/products/ Note that extensive developer support is offered as well: http://aws.amazon.com/code/ If you need a full database in the cloud, go to Azure or have your own virtual machine. Browse to: Amazon EC2 running Microsoft SQL Server http://aws.amazon.com/windows/ /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan Sendt: 1. november 2012 22:19 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Your concept of "full" is a little different to mine. Looking at it, you could extend the technnology to store the data files anywhere on the internet in exactly the same way. It's just a bunch of files stored somewhere which the application has to manage- no BE engine involved. If you want" a full database that runs anywhere there is browser netwrok/web services", there are plenty of mySQL and SQL Server systems out there which do exactly that and they have been around for years. -- Stuart On 1 Nov 2012 at 11:39, Jim Lawrence wrote: > How about a full database that runs anywhere there is browser > network/web services. Well, now there is. > > http://blog.opalang.org/2012/10/dropbox-as-database.html > > Wonder if this technology can be extended to Skydive or any other of > the many Cloud systems out there? > > Jim > T _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Nov 5 12:06:24 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:06:24 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] The best anti-virus software In-Reply-To: <001601cdbb34$5bf77550$13e65ff0$@cactus.dk> References: <001601cdbb34$5bf77550$13e65ff0$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: It seems the Vipre has taken the number one position, again, for personal and business virus protection. http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/Comparison/Editors-Choice.html?avrtsid=2&g clid=CIrW-8y0uLMCFYl7Qgod4jwA6Q Jim From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Nov 5 12:38:57 2012 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:38:57 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Message-ID: Hi Jim We use the white label of Jungle Disk: https://www.jungledisk.com/reseller_program/overview/Default.aspx Very simple, very reliable, and very cheap. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-11-12 18:22 >>> That sounds very interesting. I would be interested in hearing how you managed the process, at least in some broad stroke. I have not, yet, permanently, moved any clients but am thinking of trying a small couple of month test, like a backup or setting and data for a remote client...like the contents under their user account. The security concerns me and I have been looking at routers and switches with encryption/de-encryption firmware. Software tend to be too slow and as of yet hardware too expensive; for just a test. Have tried a small database but the results were inconclusive and the project has languished as real work takes precedence. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:03 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Hi Jim We use Amazon for file storage (backup) but I haven't used other services for more than some tests. Recently, however, I used an ASP.NET provider for hosting a small Lightswitch application. Runs great but, of course, not for a limited audience. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 4. november 2012 21:28 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Amazon seems to be leading contender in the Cloud world. Docummentation suggests they support Java, PHP, Python, Ruby, Windows with .NET (C# and VB) and now a version of MongoDB (No SQL/Map Reduce) along with their version of SQL Database (Amazon RDS). They also support virtual drive drag and drop capabilities. Have you have any experience with deploying Cloud applications? Jim From john at winhaven.net Mon Nov 5 22:52:09 2012 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 22:52:09 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] The best anti-virus software In-Reply-To: References: <001601cdbb34$5bf77550$13e65ff0$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <02a201cdbbda$7b8d87f0$72a897d0$@winhaven.net> Jim, Thanks for the link. It's not surprising. It was always a topnotch product, it just didn't have the name punch that other companies had paid for. GFI is a much more aggressive marketer than Sunbelt Software was. (I'm actually sick of seeing their ads all over the internet!) GFI has added some features from its higher end networking and management products into it Vipre Internet Security package. One is auto updating 3rd (Adobe, Java, etc.) party products. A constant frustration for many of my clients. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:06 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] The best anti-virus software It seems the Vipre has taken the number one position, again, for personal and business virus protection. http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/Comparison/Editors-Choice.html?avrtsid=2&g clid=CIrW-8y0uLMCFYl7Qgod4jwA6Q Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Nov 8 02:17:18 2012 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:17:18 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Amazon cloud backup (was: An OSS database for Dropbox) Message-ID: Hi Jim I just checked our costs for storing about 70 GB with about 15 GB datatransfer each month. That is about USD 12 to Amazon (variable) and USD 2 to Jungle Disk (fixed). In total, less than USD 15 each month. We've never used as it is our third-level "should-anything-else-fail backup" or "data insurance", I just perform a sample check from time to time that data exists. /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 05-11-12 19:38 >>> Hi Jim We use the white label of Jungle Disk: https://www.jungledisk.com/reseller_program/overview/Default.aspx Very simple, very reliable, and very cheap. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 05-11-12 18:22 >>> That sounds very interesting. I would be interested in hearing how you managed the process, at least in some broad stroke. I have not, yet, permanently, moved any clients but am thinking of trying a small couple of month test, like a backup or setting and data for a remote client...like the contents under their user account. The security concerns me and I have been looking at routers and switches with encryption/de-encryption firmware. Software tend to be too slow and as of yet hardware too expensive; for just a test. Have tried a small database but the results were inconclusive and the project has languished as real work takes precedence. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:03 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Hi Jim We use Amazon for file storage (backup) but I haven't used other services for more than some tests. Recently, however, I used an ASP.NET provider for hosting a small Lightswitch application. Runs great but, of course, not for a limited audience. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 4. november 2012 21:28 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] An OSS database for Dropbox Amazon seems to be leading contender in the Cloud world. Docummentation suggests they support Java, PHP, Python, Ruby, Windows with .NET (C# and VB) and now a version of MongoDB (No SQL/Map Reduce) along with their version of SQL Database (Amazon RDS). They also support virtual drive drag and drop capabilities. Have you have any experience with deploying Cloud applications? Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 14:40:16 2012 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:40:16 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook problem References: <1352303450.509a835ac46d5@www.techrepublic.com> Message-ID: >From a reader -- any thoughts? Susan H. Susan - I have a small investment bank and I use Outlook 2010. I saw an article you wrote about an error message I'm getting, "The Contacts folder cannot be found. Could not open the item. Try again" I believe it's because I keep my Outlook on an external drive and I moved the external drive during last week's storm to my home computer and then back to the office this week. I've been getting this message since I moved it back. I suspect that something is pointing to the wrong folder and I don't know what and how to fix it. Can you be engaged to help me figure out the answer. I would love to hear back from you. From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 14:48:27 2012 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:48:27 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook problem In-Reply-To: References: <1352303450.509a835ac46d5@www.techrepublic.com> Message-ID: Is it possible it got assigned a different drive letter after reconnecting it? My externals will sometimes get assigned different drive letters. You can go into Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Computer Management/Disk Management and reassign drive letters. Sorry those are XP screens, don't have a Windows 7 or Office 2010 system handy here at the office. GK On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > From a reader -- any thoughts? > > Susan H. > > Susan - I have a small investment bank and I use Outlook 2010. I saw an > article you wrote about an error message I'm getting, "The Contacts folder > cannot be found. Could not open the item. Try again" > > I believe it's because I keep my Outlook on an external drive and I moved > the external drive during last week's storm to my home computer and then > back to the office this week. I've been getting this message since I moved > it back. I suspect that something is pointing to the wrong folder and I > don't know what and how to fix it. Can you be engaged to help me figure out > the answer. I would love to hear back from you. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 11:05:55 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:05:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Sayonara, LinkedIn Message-ID: Well, I finally bit the bullet and closed my LinkedIn account. I joined several groups on database and programming-related topics and received about 100 spams per message of actual interest. There are several groups there devoted to Access, SQL and databases in general. Like a naive fool, I joined them all, and have discovered that they are almost nothing but vehicles for spam. I was tempted to post something there directing their members actually interested in such things to DatabaseAdvisors.com, but then figured that the spammers would soon follow suit and clog us, too, so I decided against it. Which in a way is unfortunate, because amongst the crap there, there are actually a few genuine people, and in particular, people who are relatively new to Access, Excel, SQL, etc. -- which, harking back to a previous thread, is just the sort of people we are looking for to join us. Anyway, Sayonara, LinkedIn. It's been a slice. Arthur From rustykh at yahoo.com Sun Nov 11 19:33:27 2012 From: rustykh at yahoo.com (Rusty Hammond) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:33:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Sayonara, LinkedIn In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1352684008.31728.YahooMailNeo@web125603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi Arthur, ? The Professional Microsoft Access Developer's Network (PMADN) keeps the spammer's at bay.? The others, I agree are just a spam vehicles. ? Rusty ? ________________________________ From: Arthur Fuller To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Sayonara, LinkedIn Well, I finally bit the bullet and closed my LinkedIn account. I joined several groups on database and programming-related topics and received about 100 spams per message of actual interest. There are several groups there devoted to Access, SQL and databases in general. Like a naive fool, I joined them all, and have discovered that they are almost nothing but vehicles for spam. I was tempted to post something there directing their members actually interested in such things to DatabaseAdvisors.com, but then figured that the spammers would soon follow suit and clog us, too, so I decided against it. Which in a way is unfortunate, because amongst the crap there, there are actually a few genuine people, and in particular, people who are relatively new to Access, Excel, SQL, etc. -- which, harking back to a previous thread, is just the sort of people we are looking for to join us. Anyway, Sayonara, LinkedIn. It's been a slice. Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Tue Nov 13 04:31:31 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:31:31 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Notebook_Asus_K95VM_Ci7-3610M_or_=2E=2E=2E_?= =?utf-8?q?=3F?= Message-ID: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru> Hi All -- I'm looking for a notebook for my everyday software development work (I decided to avoid purchasing Apple MacBook Pro this time). My "rough" filter is: - Processor: i7, 4 cores - RAM - up to 16GB - Display - 17"+ - Display resolution: 1600 x 800 or higher - HDD volume - as large as possible - Price: moderate - ... -- I have got found here in St.Petersburg, Russia the following two proposals satisfying my filter (price is given in roubles: 1USD = ~31RUB): Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M (90N84C314W15L6VD13AC) http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K95VM/#specifications RUB 44 990. / 44 090? Notebook HP Pavilion dv7-7171er Ci7-3610QM (B3Q57EA) http://www8.hp.com/ru/ru/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5271435 RUB 39 990.? and another two with price higher than moderate:? Notebook Samsung 700 Ci7-3615M (NP-700Z7C-S01) http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/high-performance/NP700Z7C-S01RU-spec RUB 55 990.? Notebook Asus G75Vw Ci7-3610QM (90N2VC112W12B7VD53AY) http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G75VW/#specifications RUB 69 990.? -- Do you know any other notebook models available worldwide now or announced to be available within one-two months, which could fit my filter? Thank you. -- Shamil? From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Nov 13 09:34:42 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:34:42 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? In-Reply-To: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru> References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru> Message-ID: <862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Shamil: At first glance I would pick the Asus notebooks. They have a great reputation for performance and reliability. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:32 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? Hi All -- I'm looking for a notebook for my everyday software development work (I decided to avoid purchasing Apple MacBook Pro this time). My "rough" filter is: - Processor: i7, 4 cores - RAM - up to 16GB - Display - 17"+ - Display resolution: 1600 x 800 or higher - HDD volume - as large as possible - Price: moderate - ... -- I have got found here in St.Petersburg, Russia the following two proposals satisfying my filter (price is given in roubles: 1USD = ~31RUB): Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M (90N84C314W15L6VD13AC) http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K95VM/#specifications RUB 44 990. / 44 090? Notebook HP Pavilion dv7-7171er Ci7-3610QM (B3Q57EA) http://www8.hp.com/ru/ru/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5271435 RUB 39 990.? and another two with price higher than moderate:? Notebook Samsung 700 Ci7-3615M (NP-700Z7C-S01) http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/high-perf ormance/NP700Z7C-S01RU-spec RUB 55 990.? Notebook Asus G75Vw Ci7-3610QM (90N2VC112W12B7VD53AY) http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G75VW/#specifications RUB 69 990.? -- Do you know any other notebook models available worldwide now or announced to be available within one-two months, which could fit my filter? Thank you. -- Shamil? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Tue Nov 13 10:31:49 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:31:49 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Notebook_Asus_K95VM_Ci7-3610M_or_=2E=2E=2E_?= =?utf-8?q?=3F?= In-Reply-To: <862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru> <862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru> Hi Jim -- Thank you for your note. Yes, that notebook look good - the only issue I'm worried about is that it has not very advanced graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM): I do not plan to play modern/any PC games on that notebook but I do plan to use it for Windows Phone development. And Windows Phone development requires a good graphic card for WinPhone emulator to work in all modes - I'm not sure if?NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM is good enough for WinPhone emulator. Do you/anybody here know how to check is the subject notebook graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM)?good enough for WinPhone emulator? - are there anywhere minimal requirements for graphic cards listed - minimal requirements to run WinPhone 7 and WinPhone 8 emulators in all modes? Thank you. -- Shamil ??? 13 ??? 2012 07:34:42 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > >Hi Shamil: > > At first glance I would pick the Asus notebooks. They have a great > reputation for performance and reliability. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:32 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi All -- > > I'm looking for a notebook for my everyday software development work (I > decided to avoid purchasing Apple MacBook Pro this time). > My "rough" filter is: > > - Processor: i7, 4 cores > - RAM - up to 16GB > - Display - 17"+ > - Display resolution: 1600 x 800 or higher > - HDD volume - as large as possible > - Price: moderate > - ... > -- > I have got found here in St.Petersburg, Russia the following two proposals > satisfying my filter (price is given in roubles: 1USD = ~31RUB): > > Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M (90N84C314W15L6VD13AC) >http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K95VM/#specifications > RUB 44 990. / 44 090? > Notebook HP Pavilion dv7-7171er Ci7-3610QM (B3Q57EA) >http://www8.hp.com/ru/ru/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5271435 > RUB 39 990.? > > and another two with price higher than moderate:? > Notebook Samsung 700 Ci7-3615M (NP-700Z7C-S01) >http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/high-perf > ormance/NP700Z7C-S01RU-spec > RUB 55 990.? > Notebook Asus G75Vw Ci7-3610QM (90N2VC112W12B7VD53AY) >http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G75VW/#specifications > RUB 69 990.? > -- > > Do you know any other notebook models available worldwide now or announced > to be available within one-two months, which could fit my filter? > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil? > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Nov 13 11:18:58 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:18:58 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? In-Reply-To: <1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru> References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com> <1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru> Message-ID: The Asus laptop I was thinking about was the ASUS G74SX-RS72 http://www.amazon.ca/ASUS-G74SX-RS72-CA-15-6-inch-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B007TX36HU (53,685 RUB) It has the NVIDIA GTX 560M 3GB RAM. Intel i7 which should be 6 core, one additional HD bay. (Drop a 1TB in it) The price last years was only $999.00; (31,673 RUB) when Asus changed models from the Asus G74SX-RS71...maybe it is the solid state drive. I have seen similar models at about 1300-1400 CAN. (41,xxx to 45,xxx RUB?) HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:32 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? Hi Jim -- Thank you for your note. Yes, that notebook look good - the only issue I'm worried about is that it has not very advanced graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM): I do not plan to play modern/any PC games on that notebook but I do plan to use it for Windows Phone development. And Windows Phone development requires a good graphic card for WinPhone emulator to work in all modes - I'm not sure if NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM is good enough for WinPhone emulator. Do you/anybody here know how to check is the subject notebook graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM) good enough for WinPhone emulator? - are there anywhere minimal requirements for graphic cards listed - minimal requirements to run WinPhone 7 and WinPhone 8 emulators in all modes? Thank you. -- Shamil ??? 13 ??? 2012 07:34:42 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > >Hi Shamil: > > At first glance I would pick the Asus notebooks. They have a great > reputation for performance and reliability. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:32 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi All -- > > I'm looking for a notebook for my everyday software development work (I > decided to avoid purchasing Apple MacBook Pro this time). > My "rough" filter is: > > - Processor: i7, 4 cores > - RAM - up to 16GB > - Display - 17"+ > - Display resolution: 1600 x 800 or higher > - HDD volume - as large as possible > - Price: moderate > - ... > -- > I have got found here in St.Petersburg, Russia the following two proposals > satisfying my filter (price is given in roubles: 1USD = ~31RUB): > > Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M (90N84C314W15L6VD13AC) >http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K95VM/#specifications > RUB 44 990. / 44 090? > Notebook HP Pavilion dv7-7171er Ci7-3610QM (B3Q57EA) >http://www8.hp.com/ru/ru/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5271435 > RUB 39 990.? > > and another two with price higher than moderate: > Notebook Samsung 700 Ci7-3615M (NP-700Z7C-S01) >http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/high-perf > ormance/NP700Z7C-S01RU-spec > RUB 55 990.? > Notebook Asus G75Vw Ci7-3610QM (90N2VC112W12B7VD53AY) >http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G75VW/#specifications > RUB 69 990.? > -- > > Do you know any other notebook models available worldwide now or announced > to be available within one-two months, which could fit my filter? > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Nov 13 11:25:34 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:25:34 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? Message-ID: <00b801cdc1c3$e36b0e80$aa412b80$@cactus.dk> Shamil It was more a question about supporting DirectX at the current version, but I think all modern graphic adapters meet that. However, the Windows Phone 8 Emulator is a virtual machine with specific requirements: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/windowsphone/develop/ff626524(v=vs.105).aspx#system and the download: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35471 /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil Sendt: 13. november 2012 17:32 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? Hi Jim -- Thank you for your note. Yes, that notebook look good - the only issue I'm worried about is that it has not very advanced graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM): I do not plan to play modern/any PC games on that notebook but I do plan to use it for Windows Phone development. And Windows Phone development requires a good graphic card for WinPhone emulator to work in all modes - I'm not sure if NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM is good enough for WinPhone emulator. Do you/anybody here know how to check is the subject notebook graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM) good enough for WinPhone emulator? - are there anywhere minimal requirements for graphic cards listed - minimal requirements to run WinPhone 7 and WinPhone 8 emulators in all modes? Thank you. -- Shamil From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Tue Nov 13 12:05:34 2012 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:05:34 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? In-Reply-To: References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com> <1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru> Message-ID: <50A28BEE.4090807@earthlink.net> On 2012-11-13 11:18 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > The Asus laptop I was thinking about was the ASUS G74SX-RS72 > > http://www.amazon.ca/ASUS-G74SX-RS72-CA-15-6-inch-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B007TX36HU (53,685 RUB) It has the NVIDIA GTX 560M 3GB RAM. Intel i7 which should be 6 core, one additional HD bay. (Drop a 1TB in it) > > The price last years was only $999.00; (31,673 RUB) when Asus changed models from the Asus G74SX-RS71...maybe it is the solid state drive. I have seen similar models at about 1300-1400 CAN. (41,xxx to 45,xxx RUB?) Amazon has quite a few reports of reliability problems with Asus laptops. Anybody have experience with 17" Sony Viaos (I want that backlit keyboard)? PB ----- > > HTH > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:32 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi Jim -- > > Thank you for your note. > Yes, that notebook look good - the only issue I'm worried about is that it has not very advanced graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM): I do not plan to play modern/any PC games on that notebook but I do plan to use it for Windows Phone development. And Windows Phone development requires a good graphic card for WinPhone emulator to work in all modes - I'm not sure if NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM is good enough for WinPhone emulator. Do you/anybody here know how to check is the subject notebook graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM) good enough for WinPhone emulator? - are there anywhere minimal requirements for graphic cards listed - minimal requirements to run WinPhone 7 and WinPhone 8 emulators in all modes? > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > ??? 13 ??? 2012 07:34:42 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : >> >> >> > > > > > >> Hi Shamil: >> >> > At first glance I would pick the Asus notebooks. They have a great > reputation for performance and reliability. >> > Jim >> > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:32 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? >> > Hi All -- >> > I'm looking for a notebook for my everyday software development work (I > decided to avoid purchasing Apple MacBook Pro this time). > My "rough" filter is: >> > - Processor: i7, 4 cores > - RAM - up to 16GB > - Display - 17"+ > - Display resolution: 1600 x 800 or higher > - HDD volume - as large as possible > - Price: moderate > - ... > -- > I have got found here in St.Petersburg, Russia the following two proposals > satisfying my filter (price is given in roubles: 1USD = ~31RUB): >> > Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M (90N84C314W15L6VD13AC) >> http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K95VM/#specifications >> > RUB 44 990. / 44 090? > Notebook HP Pavilion dv7-7171er Ci7-3610QM (B3Q57EA) >> http://www8.hp.com/ru/ru/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5271435 >> > RUB 39 990.? >> > and another two with price higher than moderate: > Notebook Samsung 700 Ci7-3615M (NP-700Z7C-S01) >> http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/high-perf >> > ormance/NP700Z7C-S01RU-spec > RUB 55 990.? > Notebook Asus G75Vw Ci7-3610QM (90N2VC112W12B7VD53AY) >> http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G75VW/#specifications >> > RUB 69 990.? > -- >> > Do you know any other notebook models available worldwide now or announced > to be available within one-two months, which could fit my filter? >> > Thank you. >> > -- Shamil > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Tue Nov 13 13:23:46 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:23:46 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Notebook_Asus_K95VM_Ci7-3610M_or_=2E=2E=2E_?= =?utf-8?q?=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com> <1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1352834625.111226138@f28.mail.ru> Jim -- ASUS G74SX-RS72?has 15.6 inches display and I'm looking for 17" + . K95VM supports Direct X11 AFAIS so it should work well with WinPhone 7 emulator. K95VM does also support two HDDs, and is almost USD300 cheaper than?ASUS G74SX-RS72. Thank you. -- Shamil ??? 13 ??? 2012 09:18:58 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > >The Asus laptop I was thinking about was the ASUS G74SX-RS72 > >http://www.amazon.ca/ASUS-G74SX-RS72-CA-15-6-inch-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B007TX36HU (53,685 RUB) It has the NVIDIA GTX 560M 3GB RAM. Intel i7 which should be 6 core, one additional HD bay. (Drop a 1TB in it) > > The price last years was only $999.00; (31,673 RUB) when Asus changed models from the Asus G74SX-RS71...maybe it is the solid state drive. I have seen similar models at about 1300-1400 CAN. (41,xxx to 45,xxx RUB?) > > HTH > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:32 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi Jim -- > > Thank you for your note. > Yes, that notebook look good - the only issue I'm worried about is that it has not very advanced graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM): I do not plan to play modern/any PC games on that notebook but I do plan to use it for Windows Phone development. And Windows Phone development requires a good graphic card for WinPhone emulator to work in all modes - I'm not sure if NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM is good enough for WinPhone emulator. Do you/anybody here know how to check is the subject notebook graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM) good enough for WinPhone emulator? - are there anywhere minimal requirements for graphic cards listed - minimal requirements to run WinPhone 7 and WinPhone 8 emulators in all modes? > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > ??? 13 ??? 2012 07:34:42 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Shamil: > > > > > At first glance I would pick the Asus notebooks. They have a great > > > reputation for performance and reliability. > > > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > > > Shamil > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:32 AM > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > > > > Hi All -- > > > > > I'm looking for a notebook for my everyday software development work (I > > > decided to avoid purchasing Apple MacBook Pro this time). > > > My "rough" filter is: > > > > > - Processor: i7, 4 cores > > > - RAM - up to 16GB > > > - Display - 17"+ > > > - Display resolution: 1600 x 800 or higher > > > - HDD volume - as large as possible > > > - Price: moderate > > > - ... > > > -- > > > I have got found here in St.Petersburg, Russia the following two proposals > > > satisfying my filter (price is given in roubles: 1USD = ~31RUB): > > > > > Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M (90N84C314W15L6VD13AC) > >http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K95VM/#specifications > > > RUB 44 990. / 44 090? > > > Notebook HP Pavilion dv7-7171er Ci7-3610QM (B3Q57EA) > >http://www8.hp.com/ru/ru/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5271435 > > > RUB 39 990.? > > > > > and another two with price higher than moderate: > > > Notebook Samsung 700 Ci7-3615M (NP-700Z7C-S01) > >http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/high-perf > > > ormance/NP700Z7C-S01RU-spec > > > RUB 55 990.? > > > Notebook Asus G75Vw Ci7-3610QM (90N2VC112W12B7VD53AY) > >http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G75VW/#specifications > > > RUB 69 990.? > > > -- > > > > > Do you know any other notebook models available worldwide now or announced > > > to be available within one-two months, which could fit my filter? > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > -- Shamil > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Nov 13 13:25:23 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:25:23 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? In-Reply-To: <50A28BEE.4090807@earthlink.net> References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com><1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru> <50A28BEE.4090807@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1D04C8D431AB4918A51A86216FDCE4B5@creativesystemdesigns.com> If you want reliability, I would suggest an Toshiba. I have one, Toshiba Satellite A-100, from 2006, that works perfectly and as I do a lot of client work and as they do not upgrade very often it is a perfect match. Just replaced the adapter and power-supply, $12 and $52 respectively and I am hoping for another couple of years. What is the most reliable model currently, how would you know as reliability can only be accessed in hind-sight. The Asus model, use to have (I have not checked recently) a one year, one hundred percent warranty and all major components for another three years. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:06 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? On 2012-11-13 11:18 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > The Asus laptop I was thinking about was the ASUS G74SX-RS72 > > http://www.amazon.ca/ASUS-G74SX-RS72-CA-15-6-inch-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B007TX36H U (53,685 RUB) It has the NVIDIA GTX 560M 3GB RAM. Intel i7 which should be 6 core, one additional HD bay. (Drop a 1TB in it) > > The price last years was only $999.00; (31,673 RUB) when Asus changed models from the Asus G74SX-RS71...maybe it is the solid state drive. I have seen similar models at about 1300-1400 CAN. (41,xxx to 45,xxx RUB?) Amazon has quite a few reports of reliability problems with Asus laptops. Anybody have experience with 17" Sony Viaos (I want that backlit keyboard)? PB ----- > > HTH > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:32 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi Jim -- > > Thank you for your note. > Yes, that notebook look good - the only issue I'm worried about is that it has not very advanced graphic card (NVIDIAR GeForceR GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM): I do not plan to play modern/any PC games on that notebook but I do plan to use it for Windows Phone development. And Windows Phone development requires a good graphic card for WinPhone emulator to work in all modes - I'm not sure if NVIDIAR GeForceR GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM is good enough for WinPhone emulator. Do you/anybody here know how to check is the subject notebook graphic card (NVIDIAR GeForceR GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM) good enough for WinPhone emulator? - are there anywhere minimal requirements for graphic cards listed - minimal requirements to run WinPhone 7 and WinPhone 8 emulators in all modes? > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > ??? 13 ??? 2012 07:34:42 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : >> >> >> > > > > > >> Hi Shamil: >> >> > At first glance I would pick the Asus notebooks. They have a great > reputation for performance and reliability. >> > Jim >> > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:32 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? >> > Hi All -- >> > I'm looking for a notebook for my everyday software development work (I > decided to avoid purchasing Apple MacBook Pro this time). > My "rough" filter is: >> > - Processor: i7, 4 cores > - RAM - up to 16GB > - Display - 17"+ > - Display resolution: 1600 x 800 or higher > - HDD volume - as large as possible > - Price: moderate > - ... > -- > I have got found here in St.Petersburg, Russia the following two proposals > satisfying my filter (price is given in roubles: 1USD = ~31RUB): >> > Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M (90N84C314W15L6VD13AC) >> http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K95VM/#specifications >> > RUB 44 990. / 44 090- > Notebook HP Pavilion dv7-7171er Ci7-3610QM (B3Q57EA) >> http://www8.hp.com/ru/ru/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5271435 >> > RUB 39 990.- >> > and another two with price higher than moderate: > Notebook Samsung 700 Ci7-3615M (NP-700Z7C-S01) >> http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/high-perf >> > ormance/NP700Z7C-S01RU-spec > RUB 55 990.- > Notebook Asus G75Vw Ci7-3610QM (90N2VC112W12B7VD53AY) >> http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G75VW/#specifications >> > RUB 69 990.- > -- >> > Do you know any other notebook models available worldwide now or announced > to be available within one-two months, which could fit my filter? >> > Thank you. >> > -- Shamil > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Tue Nov 13 13:31:12 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:31:12 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Notebook_Asus_K95VM_Ci7-3610M_or_=2E=2E=2E_?= =?utf-8?q?=3F?= In-Reply-To: <00b801cdc1c3$e36b0e80$aa412b80$@cactus.dk> References: <00b801cdc1c3$e36b0e80$aa412b80$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1352835072.657131345@f28.mail.ru> Hi Gustav -- Thank you for the links on WinPhone 8 SDK and emulator/VM requirements. -- Shamil ??? 13 ??? 2012 18:25:34 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > >Shamil > > It was more a question about supporting DirectX at the current version, but I think all modern graphic adapters meet that. > However, the Windows Phone 8 Emulator is a virtual machine with specific requirements: > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/windowsphone/develop/ff626524(v=vs.105).aspx#system > > and the download: > >http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35471 > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sendt: 13. november 2012 17:32 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi Jim -- > > Thank you for your note. > Yes, that notebook look good - the only issue I'm worried about is that it has not very advanced graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM): I do not plan to play modern/any PC games on that notebook but I do plan to use it for Windows Phone development. And Windows Phone development requires a good graphic card for WinPhone emulator to work in all modes - I'm not sure if NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM is good enough for WinPhone emulator. Do you/anybody here know how to check is the subject notebook graphic card (NVIDIA? GeForce? GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM) good enough for WinPhone emulator? - are there anywhere minimal requirements for graphic cards listed - minimal requirements to run WinPhone 7 and WinPhone 8 emulators in all modes? > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Nov 13 13:33:56 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:33:56 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? In-Reply-To: <1352834625.111226138@f28.mail.ru> References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com><1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru> <1352834625.111226138@f28.mail.ru> Message-ID: Hi Shamil: That's good that you have narrowed it down to the specific model you need. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:24 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? Jim -- ASUS G74SX-RS72?has 15.6 inches display and I'm looking for 17" + . K95VM supports Direct X11 AFAIS so it should work well with WinPhone 7 emulator. K95VM does also support two HDDs, and is almost USD300 cheaper than?ASUS G74SX-RS72. Thank you. -- Shamil ??? 13 ??? 2012 09:18:58 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > >The Asus laptop I was thinking about was the ASUS G74SX-RS72 > >http://www.amazon.ca/ASUS-G74SX-RS72-CA-15-6-inch-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B007TX36 HU (53,685 RUB) It has the NVIDIA GTX 560M 3GB RAM. Intel i7 which should be 6 core, one additional HD bay. (Drop a 1TB in it) > > The price last years was only $999.00; (31,673 RUB) when Asus changed models from the Asus G74SX-RS71...maybe it is the solid state drive. I have seen similar models at about 1300-1400 CAN. (41,xxx to 45,xxx RUB?) > > HTH > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:32 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi Jim -- > > Thank you for your note. > Yes, that notebook look good - the only issue I'm worried about is that it has not very advanced graphic card (NVIDIAR GeForceR GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM): I do not plan to play modern/any PC games on that notebook but I do plan to use it for Windows Phone development. And Windows Phone development requires a good graphic card for WinPhone emulator to work in all modes - I'm not sure if NVIDIAR GeForceR GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM is good enough for WinPhone emulator. Do you/anybody here know how to check is the subject notebook graphic card (NVIDIAR GeForceR GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM) good enough for WinPhone emulator? - are there anywhere minimal requirements for graphic cards listed - minimal requirements to run WinPhone 7 and WinPhone 8 emulators in all modes? > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > ??? 13 ??? 2012 07:34:42 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Shamil: > > > > > At first glance I would pick the Asus notebooks. They have a great > > > reputation for performance and reliability. > > > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > > > Shamil > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:32 AM > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > > > > Hi All -- > > > > > I'm looking for a notebook for my everyday software development work (I > > > decided to avoid purchasing Apple MacBook Pro this time). > > > My "rough" filter is: > > > > > - Processor: i7, 4 cores > > > - RAM - up to 16GB > > > - Display - 17"+ > > > - Display resolution: 1600 x 800 or higher > > > - HDD volume - as large as possible > > > - Price: moderate > > > - ... > > > -- > > > I have got found here in St.Petersburg, Russia the following two proposals > > > satisfying my filter (price is given in roubles: 1USD = ~31RUB): > > > > > Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M (90N84C314W15L6VD13AC) > >http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K95VM/#specifications > > > RUB 44 990. / 44 090- > > > Notebook HP Pavilion dv7-7171er Ci7-3610QM (B3Q57EA) > >http://www8.hp.com/ru/ru/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5271435 > > > RUB 39 990.- > > > > > and another two with price higher than moderate: > > > Notebook Samsung 700 Ci7-3615M (NP-700Z7C-S01) > >http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/high-per f > > > ormance/NP700Z7C-S01RU-spec > > > RUB 55 990.- > > > Notebook Asus G75Vw Ci7-3610QM (90N2VC112W12B7VD53AY) > >http://ru.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G75VW/#specifications > > > RUB 69 990.- > > > -- > > > > > Do you know any other notebook models available worldwide now or announced > > > to be available within one-two months, which could fit my filter? > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > -- Shamil > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 14 09:31:45 2012 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:31:45 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag Message-ID: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> Something went wrong with my Avast (free ed.) on machine #2 - would update anymore. So I uninstalled, reinstalled, no soap. I went back to Avira. It's good stuff. Except several times a day I get nag messages, pop-ups, they won't leave me alone. Is there a way to turn those off (short of upgrading with the liberal application of $ - which is what they want). My first solution would be to bail and use Microsoft Security Essentials. If I could figure out how to make Avast update, that would be best. TIA Rocky From df.waters at comcast.net Wed Nov 14 09:50:45 2012 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:50:45 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag In-Reply-To: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> References: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> Message-ID: <002e01cdc27f$cf7f6440$6e7e2cc0$@comcast.net> Hi Rocky, I've used Security Essentials for about a year, with no nagging, and no security issues, and no dollars! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:32 AM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag Something went wrong with my Avast (free ed.) on machine #2 - would update anymore. So I uninstalled, reinstalled, no soap. I went back to Avira. It's good stuff. Except several times a day I get nag messages, pop-ups, they won't leave me alone. Is there a way to turn those off (short of upgrading with the liberal application of $ - which is what they want). My first solution would be to bail and use Microsoft Security Essentials. If I could figure out how to make Avast update, that would be best. TIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Wed Nov 14 09:57:26 2012 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Slough) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:57:26 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag In-Reply-To: <002e01cdc27f$cf7f6440$6e7e2cc0$@comcast.net> References: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> <002e01cdc27f$cf7f6440$6e7e2cc0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Me three (well, on other people's machines... I'm paying for Vipre on mine). Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: 14 November 2012 15:51 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag Hi Rocky, I've used Security Essentials for about a year, with no nagging, and no security issues, and no dollars! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:32 AM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag Something went wrong with my Avast (free ed.) on machine #2 - would update anymore. So I uninstalled, reinstalled, no soap. I went back to Avira. It's good stuff. Except several times a day I get nag messages, pop-ups, they won't leave me alone. Is there a way to turn those off (short of upgrading with the liberal application of $ - which is what they want). My first solution would be to bail and use Microsoft Security Essentials. If I could figure out how to make Avast update, that would be best. TIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 14 10:19:29 2012 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:19:29 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag In-Reply-To: <002e01cdc27f$cf7f6440$6e7e2cc0$@comcast.net> References: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> <002e01cdc27f$cf7f6440$6e7e2cc0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1699E87DA937476E96B1C4BF52E20E03@HAL9007> I used it before. It was fine. I have very low need for any AV - rarely do I hit a link with a virus and then Avira stopped me. Don't recall MSE doing that but I suppose it will. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:51 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag Hi Rocky, I've used Security Essentials for about a year, with no nagging, and no security issues, and no dollars! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:32 AM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag Something went wrong with my Avast (free ed.) on machine #2 - would update anymore. So I uninstalled, reinstalled, no soap. I went back to Avira. It's good stuff. Except several times a day I get nag messages, pop-ups, they won't leave me alone. Is there a way to turn those off (short of upgrading with the liberal application of $ - which is what they want). My first solution would be to bail and use Microsoft Security Essentials. If I could figure out how to make Avast update, that would be best. TIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Nov 14 10:33:20 2012 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:33:20 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag In-Reply-To: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> References: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> Message-ID: <00ff01cdc285$c2d46230$487d2690$@winhaven.net> If you insist on free then go MSE. Otherwise Vipre just keeps getting better. Vipre Internet Security now includes patch management so you could remove even more extra, background processes like PSI's. John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:32 AM To: 'Off Topic'; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag Something went wrong with my Avast (free ed.) on machine #2 - would update anymore. So I uninstalled, reinstalled, no soap. I went back to Avira. It's good stuff. Except several times a day I get nag messages, pop-ups, they won't leave me alone. Is there a way to turn those off (short of upgrading with the liberal application of $ - which is what they want). My first solution would be to bail and use Microsoft Security Essentials. If I could figure out how to make Avast update, that would be best. TIA Rocky _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Wed Nov 14 11:07:45 2012 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:07:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag In-Reply-To: <00ff01cdc285$c2d46230$487d2690$@winhaven.net> References: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> <00ff01cdc285$c2d46230$487d2690$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <50A3CFE1.8000208@torchlake.com> John, What are PSIs? T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 11/14/2012 11:33 AM, John Bartow wrote: > If you insist on free then go MSE. > > Otherwise Vipre just keeps getting better. Vipre Internet Security now > includes patch management so you could remove even more extra, background > processes like PSI's. > > John B > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Nov 14 11:29:27 2012 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:29:27 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 in Parallels Message-ID: <78807A6020BE4F0A921B883934EE7F7A@HAL9007> Dear List: I have a user who wants to put Windows 7 on a Mac using Parallels. Wants to know if he should get the 32 bit or the 64 bit W7. Anybody know the answer? TIA Rocky From john at winhaven.net Wed Nov 14 12:05:11 2012 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:05:11 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag In-Reply-To: <50A3CFE1.8000208@torchlake.com> References: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> <00ff01cdc285$c2d46230$487d2690$@winhaven.net> <50A3CFE1.8000208@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <015001cdc292$97cf2040$c76d60c0$@winhaven.net> Tina, That was a possessive 's ;-) Secunia PSI is a program that scans your computer for patches/updates and will apply them for you if you so desire. It does this by running processes at startup and in the background. Its free so a lot of people use it. It has fallen out of favor with me because of the many erroneous listings it has in regards to updates - especially Windows patches. There is a professional version which is costly. John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:08 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag John, What are PSIs? T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 11/14/2012 11:33 AM, John Bartow wrote: > If you insist on free then go MSE. > > Otherwise Vipre just keeps getting better. Vipre Internet Security now > includes patch management so you could remove even more extra, > background processes like PSI's. > > John B > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Nov 14 15:29:16 2012 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:29:16 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 in Parallels In-Reply-To: <78807A6020BE4F0A921B883934EE7F7A@HAL9007> References: <78807A6020BE4F0A921B883934EE7F7A@HAL9007> Message-ID: <50A40D2C.4329.27B171E5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Does he have any old Windows applications that won't run in 64? Does he have limited RAM? If either of the above - go with 32 bit. Otherwise go 64 Wth 64 bit, if he has enough RAM he can allocated more than 4GB With 64 bit, if he wants/needs to run a 64but application he can. -- Stuart On 14 Nov 2012 at 9:29, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List: > > I have a user who wants to put Windows 7 on a Mac using Parallels. Wants to > know if he should get the 32 bit or the 64 bit W7. Anybody know the answer? > > TIA > > Rocky > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Wed Nov 14 17:42:13 2012 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:42:13 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag In-Reply-To: <015001cdc292$97cf2040$c76d60c0$@winhaven.net> References: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> <00ff01cdc285$c2d46230$487d2690$@winhaven.net> <50A3CFE1.8000208@torchlake.com> <015001cdc292$97cf2040$c76d60c0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <50A42C55.7010909@torchlake.com> Thanks for the clarification! :-) T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 11/14/2012 1:05 PM, John Bartow wrote: > Tina, > That was a possessive 's ;-) > > Secunia PSI is a program that scans your computer for patches/updates and > will apply them for you if you so desire. It does this by running processes > at startup and in the background. Its free so a lot of people use it. It has > fallen out of favor with me because of the many erroneous listings it has in > regards to updates - especially Windows patches. There is a professional > version which is costly. > > John B. > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:08 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Nag, nag, nag > > John, > What are PSIs? > T > > Tina Norris Fields > tinanfields at torchlake.com > 231-322-2787 > > On 11/14/2012 11:33 AM, John Bartow wrote: >> If you insist on free then go MSE. >> >> Otherwise Vipre just keeps getting better. Vipre Internet Security now >> includes patch management so you could remove even more extra, >> background processes like PSI's. >> >> John B >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Nov 14 18:22:36 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:22:36 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Big data newest engines In-Reply-To: <50A42C55.7010909@torchlake.com> References: <185F4601DB6B40DEBF66DE17BFC8F4AC@HAL9007> <00ff01cdc285$c2d46230$487d2690$@winhaven.net><50A3CFE1.8000208@torchlake.com><015001cdc292$97cf2040$c76d60c0$@winhaven.net> <50A42C55.7010909@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <6C3BA87221894F329C437FE720EB0E9A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Facebook is one of the leading proponents of systems for managing big data. With their latest improvements in their core package Corona, a Hadoop derivative, they can scan and search billions of pieces of data in less than a second. With their OSS philosophy they have been posting their engineering notes for all those geeks interested in what is the latest advances and discussions: https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-the-hood-schedulin g-mapreduce-jobs-more-efficiently-with-corona/10151142560538920 If you are interested in going yet further you can download the latest stable versions from Github https://github.com/facebook/hadoop-20/tree/master/src/contrib/corona (It will be fun to see if you can get this running on your laptop...he he he.) Jim From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 15 01:09:25 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:09:25 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?i7_Ivy_Bridge=2C_4_cores=2C_8-16GB_RAM_etc?= =?utf-8?q?=2E?= Message-ID: <1352963365.282851257@f362.mail.ru> Hi All -- When using subj system: i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 Cores, 8-16GB RAM etc., what would be the most optimal way to configures such a system box? I'm going to keep original installed by manufacturer system as virgin as possible and to use VMs (VMWare Workstation 9(?)) ?for my everyday development work: - one VM for every customer apps development (I do not have that much customers); - one VM for the Internet browsing, documentation/books reading; - one VM for MS SQL server and databases; - ... The subj system has 8GB installed would that be good enough? (not sure yet the subj RAM can be extended to 16GB - ASUS support told me it can't, but PC shops tell it can - I'm going to test that issue directly in the shop in the coming days...) The subj system could also support up to four(?) displays so in theory I can have every VM assigned a dedicated display... The subj system can have two HDD so there should be plenty of space to keep VMs images, and if the subj system box supports 16GB then currently used VMs (3-4) should completely fit RAM I expect.... Please advise on such a system configuration strategy based on your experience - I have never used such a system box before. Thank you. -- Shamil? From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Nov 15 03:08:42 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:08:42 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. Message-ID: <002101cdc310$cf4d86f0$6de894d0$@cactus.dk> Hi Shamil A matter of preferences, I think, but I keep the main developing apps - Visual Studio - on the main machine with an SQL Server Express. Running local VMs on a workstation is mostly a question of enough ram installed. Are you sure you need a VM for each client? /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil Sendt: 15. november 2012 08:09 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. Hi All -- When using subj system: i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 Cores, 8-16GB RAM etc., what would be the most optimal way to configures such a system box? I'm going to keep original installed by manufacturer system as virgin as possible and to use VMs (VMWare Workstation 9(?)) for my everyday development work: - one VM for every customer apps development (I do not have that much customers); - one VM for the Internet browsing, documentation/books reading; - one VM for MS SQL server and databases; - ... The subj system has 8GB installed would that be good enough? (not sure yet the subj RAM can be extended to 16GB - ASUS support told me it can't, but PC shops tell it can - I'm going to test that issue directly in the shop in the coming days...) The subj system could also support up to four(?) displays so in theory I can have every VM assigned a dedicated display... The subj system can have two HDD so there should be plenty of space to keep VMs images, and if the subj system box supports 16GB then currently used VMs (3-4) should completely fit RAM I expect.... Please advise on such a system configuration strategy based on your experience - I have never used such a system box before. Thank you. -- Shamil From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 15 03:44:57 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:44:57 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?i7_Ivy_Bridge=2C_4_cores=2C_8-16GB_RAM_etc?= =?utf-8?q?=2E?= In-Reply-To: <002101cdc310$cf4d86f0$6de894d0$@cactus.dk> References: <002101cdc310$cf4d86f0$6de894d0$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1352972697.743031357@f194.mail.ru> Hi Gustav -- I wanted to keep Visual Studio on VMs if that will work quick enough assuming that in the near future it will become affordable for SMB software development companies to keep their development systems running "on cloud" ... I have a few customers but ?if I'm working on the projects of one customer then I have two to four Visual Studio instances open each keeping from several to a dozen of projects, as well as MS Access, Word, Excel etc. - if it happens I have to switch to another customer's projects I have to close the first one VS solutions - just putting a VM to background and activating another one with the second customer development environment ready to use would have saved quite some time - I could have worked on several customers projects in parallel, I'm trying to avoid doing that "multi-tasking" currently as just switching VS environments is time consuming. Also doing some R&D while working on a customer project would be better done on a separate system box/VM.... So, yes, I suppose that having a ready to use VM for each customer/R&D/deploying context would be helpful to effectively work on several customers projects in parallel and to do R&D or at least having one customer's projects in "main development mode" and keeping the others' projects in "ready to switch and quick-fix urgent issues" mode... Thank you. -- Shamil ??? 15 ??? 2012 10:08:42 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > >Hi Shamil > > A matter of preferences, I think, but I keep the main developing apps - Visual Studio - on the main machine with an SQL Server Express. > Running local VMs on a workstation is mostly a question of enough ram installed. > > Are you sure you need a VM for each client? > > /gustav > ? > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sendt: 15. november 2012 08:09 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. > > Hi All -- > > When using subj system: i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 Cores, 8-16GB RAM etc., what would be the most optimal way to configures such a system box? > > I'm going to keep original installed by manufacturer system as virgin as possible and to use VMs (VMWare Workstation 9(?)) for my everyday development work: > > - one VM for every customer apps development (I do not have that much customers); > - one VM for the Internet browsing, documentation/books reading; > - one VM for MS SQL server and databases; > - ... > > The subj system has 8GB installed would that be good enough? (not sure yet the subj RAM can be extended to 16GB - ASUS support told me it can't, but PC shops tell it can - I'm going to test that issue directly in the shop in the coming days...) > > The subj system could also support up to four(?) displays so in theory I can have every VM assigned a dedicated display... > > The subj system can have two HDD so there should be plenty of space to keep VMs images, and if the subj system box supports 16GB then currently used VMs (3-4) should completely fit RAM I expect.... > > Please advise on such a system configuration strategy based on your experience - I have never used such a system box before. > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Nov 15 05:29:55 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:29:55 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. Message-ID: <004f01cdc324$898312c0$9c893840$@cactus.dk> Hi Shamil That makes sense, though I rarely work that way. But I mounted my new ThinkStation with 12 GB ram so flying a handful instances of VS would not be a problem - I have tried just for the fun. What is a problem, however, is screen estate. Even with my 1920x1200 screen I could often use a second to view a pdf or search some sites or browsing mail during daytime. Or for the phone emulator. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil Sendt: 15. november 2012 10:45 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. Hi Gustav -- I wanted to keep Visual Studio on VMs if that will work quick enough assuming that in the near future it will become affordable for SMB software development companies to keep their development systems running "on cloud" ... I have a few customers but if I'm working on the projects of one customer then I have two to four Visual Studio instances open each keeping from several to a dozen of projects, as well as MS Access, Word, Excel etc. - if it happens I have to switch to another customer's projects I have to close the first one VS solutions - just putting a VM to background and activating another one with the second customer development environment ready to use would have saved quite some time - I could have worked on several customers projects in parallel, I'm trying to avoid doing that "multi-tasking" currently as just switching VS environments is time consuming. Also doing some R&D while working on a customer project would be better done on a separate system box/VM.... So, yes, I suppose that having a ready to use VM for each customer/R&D/deploying context would be helpful to effectively work on several customers projects in parallel and to do R&D or at least having one customer's projects in "main development mode" and keeping the others' projects in "ready to switch and quick-fix urgent issues" mode... Thank you. -- Shamil ??? 15 ??? 2012 10:08:42 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > >Hi Shamil > > A matter of preferences, I think, but I keep the main developing apps - Visual Studio - on the main machine with an SQL Server Express. > Running local VMs on a workstation is mostly a question of enough ram installed. > > Are you sure you need a VM for each client? > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sendt: 15. november 2012 08:09 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. > > Hi All -- > > When using subj system: i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 Cores, 8-16GB RAM etc., what would be the most optimal way to configures such a system box? > > I'm going to keep original installed by manufacturer system as virgin as possible and to use VMs (VMWare Workstation 9(?)) for my everyday development work: > > - one VM for every customer apps development (I do not have that much customers); > - one VM for the Internet browsing, documentation/books reading; > - one VM for MS SQL server and databases; > - ... > > The subj system has 8GB installed would that be good enough? (not sure yet the subj RAM can be extended to 16GB - ASUS support told me it can't, but PC shops tell it can - I'm going to test that issue directly in the shop in the coming days...) > > The subj system could also support up to four(?) displays so in theory I can have every VM assigned a dedicated display... > > The subj system can have two HDD so there should be plenty of space to keep VMs images, and if the subj system box supports 16GB then currently used VMs (3-4) should completely fit RAM I expect.... > > Please advise on such a system configuration strategy based on your experience - I have never used such a system box before. > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 15 07:18:11 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:18:11 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Notebook_Asus_K95VM_Ci7-3610M_or_=2E=2E=2E_?= =?utf-8?q?=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com><1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru> <1352834625.111226138@f28.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1352985491.247350558@f360.mail.ru> Hi Jim -- I have finally decided to purchase?Asus N76VZ notebook (90NAJC552W2384VD13AY). - ~USD1500 here. It's almost identical to http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Z9EB0O ? which have mostly good reviews. The difference is that?90NAJC552W2384VD13AY model has - two 1TB 5400 rpm HDDs and the one from Amazon referenced above has only one 1TB 7200 rpm HDD.? If that notebook would have had: - 1SSD (128+GB); - 1HDD - 1TB 7200rpm; - 16GB RAM and - Win8 Prof. That would have been almost "ideal notebook" for my current work context I suppose. I'm still to check if Asus N76VZ is able to handle 16GB or not, some sources tell it can, the others - it cannot. I have ordered today the actual 16GB memory check in the shop where I plan to purchase the N76VZ noteboook - the test is planned for this Saturday when two 8GB memory modules will arrive... Thank you.? -- Shami ??? 13 ??? 2012 11:33:56 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : >Hi Shamil: > > That's good that you have narrowed it down to the specific model you need. > > Jim<<< ?skipped >>> > From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 15 07:37:08 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:37:08 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?i7_Ivy_Bridge=2C_4_cores=2C_8-16GB_RAM_etc?= =?utf-8?q?=2E?= In-Reply-To: <004f01cdc324$898312c0$9c893840$@cactus.dk> References: <004f01cdc324$898312c0$9c893840$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1352986628.653023643@f360.mail.ru> Hi Gustav -- Yes, the screen estate is the issue. I plan to have at least two: one for VS IDEs, another for Internet, docs, running in test mode custom programs UI, WinPhone emulator... Thank you. -- Shamil ??? 15 ??? 2012 12:29:55 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > >Hi Shamil > > That makes sense, though I rarely work that way. But I mounted my new ThinkStation with 12 GB ram so flying a handful instances of VS would not be a problem - I have tried just for the fun. > What is a problem, however, is screen estate. Even with my 1920x1200 screen I could often use a second to view a pdf or search some sites or browsing mail during daytime. Or for the phone emulator. > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sendt: 15. november 2012 10:45 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. > > Hi Gustav -- > > I wanted to keep Visual Studio on VMs if that will work quick enough assuming that in the near future it will become affordable for SMB software development companies to keep their development systems running "on cloud" ... > > I have a few customers but if I'm working on the projects of one customer then I have two to four Visual Studio instances open each keeping from several to a dozen of projects, as well as MS Access, Word, Excel etc. - if it happens I have to switch to another customer's projects I have to close the first one VS solutions - just putting a VM to background and activating another one with the second customer development environment ready to use would have saved quite some time - I could have worked on several customers projects in parallel, I'm trying to avoid doing that "multi-tasking" currently as just switching VS environments is time consuming. Also doing some R&D while working on a customer project would be better done on a separate system box/VM.... > > So, yes, I suppose that having a ready to use VM for each customer/R&D/deploying context would be helpful to effectively work on several customers projects in parallel and to do R&D or at least having one customer's projects in "main development mode" and keeping the others' projects in "ready to switch and quick-fix urgent issues" mode... > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > ??? 15 ??? 2012 10:08:42 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Shamil > > > > > > A matter of preferences, I think, but I keep the main developing apps - Visual Studio - on the main machine with an SQL Server Express. > > > Running local VMs on a workstation is mostly a question of enough ram installed. > > > > > > Are you sure you need a VM for each client? > > > > > > /gustav > > > ? > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > > > Sendt: 15. november 2012 08:09 > > > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > Emne: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. > > > > > > Hi All -- > > > > > > When using subj system: i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 Cores, 8-16GB RAM etc., what would be the most optimal way to configures such a system box? > > > > > > I'm going to keep original installed by manufacturer system as virgin as possible and to use VMs (VMWare Workstation 9(?)) for my everyday development work: > > > > > > - one VM for every customer apps development (I do not have that much customers); > > > - one VM for the Internet browsing, documentation/books reading; > > > - one VM for MS SQL server and databases; > > > - ... > > > > > > The subj system has 8GB installed would that be good enough? (not sure yet the subj RAM can be extended to 16GB - ASUS support told me it can't, but PC shops tell it can - I'm going to test that issue directly in the shop in the coming days...) > > > > > > The subj system could also support up to four(?) displays so in theory I can have every VM assigned a dedicated display... > > > > > > The subj system can have two HDD so there should be plenty of space to keep VMs images, and if the subj system box supports 16GB then currently used VMs (3-4) should completely fit RAM I expect.... > > > > > > Please advise on such a system configuration strategy based on your experience - I have never used such a system box before. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > -- Shamil > ? > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Nov 15 18:18:40 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:18:40 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? In-Reply-To: <1352985491.247350558@f360.mail.ru> References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com><1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru><1352834625.111226138@f28.mail.ru> <1352985491.247350558@f360.mail.ru> Message-ID: <294E343EBBE84DD9B08C67FD8DB498F0@creativesystemdesigns.com> That sounds great. That laptop is more powerful than most of my servers so it should be more than adequate. My next big laptop purchase will be along the same lines. (Just need one more big client...) ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:18 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? Hi Jim -- I have finally decided to purchase?Asus N76VZ notebook (90NAJC552W2384VD13AY). - ~USD1500 here. It's almost identical to http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Z9EB0O ? which have mostly good reviews. The difference is that?90NAJC552W2384VD13AY model has - two 1TB 5400 rpm HDDs and the one from Amazon referenced above has only one 1TB 7200 rpm HDD.? If that notebook would have had: - 1SSD (128+GB); - 1HDD - 1TB 7200rpm; - 16GB RAM and - Win8 Prof. That would have been almost "ideal notebook" for my current work context I suppose. I'm still to check if Asus N76VZ is able to handle 16GB or not, some sources tell it can, the others - it cannot. I have ordered today the actual 16GB memory check in the shop where I plan to purchase the N76VZ noteboook - the test is planned for this Saturday when two 8GB memory modules will arrive... Thank you.? -- Shami ??? 13 ??? 2012 11:33:56 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : >Hi Shamil: > > That's good that you have narrowed it down to the specific model you need. > > Jim<<< ?skipped >>> > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Nov 15 18:31:16 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:31:16 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. In-Reply-To: <1352986628.653023643@f360.mail.ru> References: <004f01cdc324$898312c0$9c893840$@cactus.dk> <1352986628.653023643@f360.mail.ru> Message-ID: It might be better, when you are docked, to have more than one screen. My daughter, who is currently working on a couple of large graphic projects, has three to five screens attached. Only three are used directly from her desktop system and the other two are just there to monitor server compiles. (She uses some kind of USB graphic box to run them all). She even has everything patched into their TV flat-screen and then she can watch and garner suggestions on the near finished modules. The beauty of it is that you can have your studio application running in one screen and the application outputs on the others. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:37 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. Hi Gustav -- Yes, the screen estate is the issue. I plan to have at least two: one for VS IDEs, another for Internet, docs, running in test mode custom programs UI, WinPhone emulator... Thank you. -- Shamil ??? 15 ??? 2012 12:29:55 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > >Hi Shamil > > That makes sense, though I rarely work that way. But I mounted my new ThinkStation with 12 GB ram so flying a handful instances of VS would not be a problem - I have tried just for the fun. > What is a problem, however, is screen estate. Even with my 1920x1200 screen I could often use a second to view a pdf or search some sites or browsing mail during daytime. Or for the phone emulator. > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sendt: 15. november 2012 10:45 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. > > Hi Gustav -- > > I wanted to keep Visual Studio on VMs if that will work quick enough assuming that in the near future it will become affordable for SMB software development companies to keep their development systems running "on cloud" ... > > I have a few customers but if I'm working on the projects of one customer then I have two to four Visual Studio instances open each keeping from several to a dozen of projects, as well as MS Access, Word, Excel etc. - if it happens I have to switch to another customer's projects I have to close the first one VS solutions - just putting a VM to background and activating another one with the second customer development environment ready to use would have saved quite some time - I could have worked on several customers projects in parallel, I'm trying to avoid doing that "multi-tasking" currently as just switching VS environments is time consuming. Also doing some R&D while working on a customer project would be better done on a separate system box/VM.... > > So, yes, I suppose that having a ready to use VM for each customer/R&D/deploying context would be helpful to effectively work on several customers projects in parallel and to do R&D or at least having one customer's projects in "main development mode" and keeping the others' projects in "ready to switch and quick-fix urgent issues" mode... > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > ??? 15 ??? 2012 10:08:42 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Shamil > > > > > > A matter of preferences, I think, but I keep the main developing apps - Visual Studio - on the main machine with an SQL Server Express. > > > Running local VMs on a workstation is mostly a question of enough ram installed. > > > > > > Are you sure you need a VM for each client? > > > > > > /gustav > > > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > > > Sendt: 15. november 2012 08:09 > > > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > Emne: [dba-Tech] i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 cores, 8-16GB RAM etc. > > > > > > Hi All -- > > > > > > When using subj system: i7 Ivy Bridge, 4 Cores, 8-16GB RAM etc., what would be the most optimal way to configures such a system box? > > > > > > I'm going to keep original installed by manufacturer system as virgin as possible and to use VMs (VMWare Workstation 9(?)) for my everyday development work: > > > > > > - one VM for every customer apps development (I do not have that much customers); > > > - one VM for the Internet browsing, documentation/books reading; > > > - one VM for MS SQL server and databases; > > > - ... > > > > > > The subj system has 8GB installed would that be good enough? (not sure yet the subj RAM can be extended to 16GB - ASUS support told me it can't, but PC shops tell it can - I'm going to test that issue directly in the shop in the coming days...) > > > > > > The subj system could also support up to four(?) displays so in theory I can have every VM assigned a dedicated display... > > > > > > The subj system can have two HDD so there should be plenty of space to keep VMs images, and if the subj system box supports 16GB then currently used VMs (3-4) should completely fit RAM I expect.... > > > > > > Please advise on such a system configuration strategy based on your experience - I have never used such a system box before. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > -- Shamil > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Sun Nov 18 05:43:03 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:43:03 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Notebook_Asus_K95VM_Ci7-3610M_or_=2E=2E=2E_?= =?utf-8?q?=3F?= In-Reply-To: <294E343EBBE84DD9B08C67FD8DB498F0@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com><1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru><1352834625.111226138@f28.mail.ru> <1352985491.247350558@f360.mail.ru> <294E343EBBE84DD9B08C67FD8DB498F0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <1353238983.257574696@f391.i.mail.ru> Hi Jim -- I must note I have never had such a "computing power" at my disposal. I have got it purchased yesterday, and I have immediately ordered its upgrade directly in the shop: - 12GB RAM; - 256GB SSD? - Windows 8 Professional. Total price is currently around USD1800, including work on hardware upgrade and Win8 setup. They called me today - there are some issues with SSD, they ordered another one for tomorrow. I hope to get the subject "toy" home on Tuesday. We will see... Thank you. -- Shamil Thu 15 Nov 2012 16:18:40 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > >That sounds great. > > That laptop is more powerful than most of my servers so it should be more > than adequate. My next big laptop purchase will be along the same lines. > (Just need one more big client...) ;-) > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:18 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi Jim -- > > I have finally decided to purchase?Asus N76VZ notebook > (90NAJC552W2384VD13AY). - ~USD1500 here. > > It's almost identical to > > >http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Z9EB0O > ? > which have mostly good reviews. > > The difference is that?90NAJC552W2384VD13AY model has > > - two 1TB 5400 rpm HDDs and the one from Amazon referenced above has only > one 1TB 7200 rpm HDD.? > If that notebook would have had: > > - 1SSD (128+GB); > - 1HDD - 1TB 7200rpm; > - 16GB RAM and > - Win8 Prof. > > That would have been almost "ideal notebook" for my current work context I > suppose. > > I'm still to check if Asus N76VZ is able to handle 16GB or not, some sources > tell it can, the others - it cannot. > I have ordered today the actual 16GB memory check in the shop where I plan > to purchase the N76VZ noteboook - the test is planned for this Saturday when > two 8GB memory modules will arrive... > > Thank you.? > > -- Shami > > > ??? 13 ??? 2012 11:33:56 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > >Hi Shamil: > > > > > That's good that you have narrowed it down to the specific model you need. > > > > > Jim<<< ?skipped >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 06:17:29 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:17:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Format a drive with system tracks on it? Message-ID: Hi guys. How can I format a hard disk so it contains the system tracks and room for the MBR? I formatted one of my drives and then reinstalled Windows on it but there's no MBR. When I start the machine up, it almost immediately says "Can't find BOOTMGR." However, if I leave my Windows 7 disk in the CD drive and then boot, it reads the CD for a moment, then proceeds to the hard disk where it finds the Windows 7 installation. I don't mind starting over. Any suggestions? Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Nov 18 19:45:21 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:45:21 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad news for Hamachi users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <579D86B881044561806BC06A4FE1AA6E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: If you use Hamachi to stay connected to clients and the head office things are about to change. Here is the note posted to all Hamachi users. " Hamachi is introducing some modifications on November 19th to make sure service is the best it can be. Here's what's new: To give you better access to a growing portion of the Internet, Hamachi is moving to a new IP range. Connections between computers might drop for a few seconds during the switch, but most of you won't even notice. Currently Hamachi can stay open in the background so you're always connected to unattended computers. We're moving this feature to only paid subscriptions to help fund future improvements. Please note that for casual, personal use, Hamachi will still be free. But if you run Hamachi as a service, you can choose from our subscription packages, starting at just $29/year. Enhance your Hamachi experience with more features and more computers. Upgrade to a standard network subscription package before November 19th and save $10. The Hamachi Team " Jim From gustav at cactus.dk Mon Nov 19 01:21:27 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:21:27 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad news for Hamachi users Message-ID: <000b01cdc626$7d8fded0$78af9c70$@cactus.dk> Hi Jim Check out Gbridge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbridge_software http://www.gbridge.com/ Quite clever freeware. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 19. november 2012 02:45 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: [dba-Tech] Bad news for Hamachi users Hi All: If you use Hamachi to stay connected to clients and the head office things are about to change. From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Nov 19 14:57:50 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:57:50 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad news for Hamachi users In-Reply-To: <000b01cdc626$7d8fded0$78af9c70$@cactus.dk> References: <000b01cdc626$7d8fded0$78af9c70$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1701EE797C7F4947815DB981861899E3@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: Thank you so much for the information. I will have to check it out at some length. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:21 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad news for Hamachi users Hi Jim Check out Gbridge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbridge_software http://www.gbridge.com/ Quite clever freeware. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 19. november 2012 02:45 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: [dba-Tech] Bad news for Hamachi users Hi All: If you use Hamachi to stay connected to clients and the head office things are about to change. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hans.andersen at phulse.com Mon Nov 19 16:13:19 2012 From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:13:19 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad news for Hamachi users In-Reply-To: <579D86B881044561806BC06A4FE1AA6E@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <579D86B881044561806BC06A4FE1AA6E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hate to say it, but this is a prime example of why it is a risk to have a reliance on free applications/utilities that are not open source. The project owners can always pull the old switcheroo on you (especially if it was acquired by a larger corporation). - Hans On 2012-11-18, at 5:45 PM, "Jim Lawrence" wrote: > Hi All: > > If you use Hamachi to stay connected to clients and the head office things > are about to change. Here is the note posted to all Hamachi users. > > " Hamachi is introducing some modifications on November 19th to make sure > service is the best it can be. Here's what's new: > > To give you better access to a growing portion of the Internet, Hamachi is > moving to a new IP range. Connections between computers might drop for a few > seconds during the switch, but most of you won't even notice. > Currently Hamachi can stay open in the background so you're always connected > to unattended computers. We're moving this feature to only paid > subscriptions to help fund future improvements. Please note that for casual, > personal use, Hamachi will still be free. But if you run Hamachi as a > service, you can choose from our subscription packages, starting at > just $29/year. > > Enhance your Hamachi experience with more features and more computers. > Upgrade to a standard network subscription package before November 19th and > save $10. > > The Hamachi Team " > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 22 07:10:35 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:10:35 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Notebook_Asus_K95VM_Ci7-3610M_or_=2E=2E=2E_?= =?utf-8?q?=3F?= In-Reply-To: <294E343EBBE84DD9B08C67FD8DB498F0@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1352802691.930776656@f107.mail.ru><862A2D8EC177424E8B2C28586AB26B4A@creativesystemdesigns.com><1352824309.947605377@f244.mail.ru><1352834625.111226138@f28.mail.ru> <1352985491.247350558@f360.mail.ru> <294E343EBBE84DD9B08C67FD8DB498F0@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <1353589835.64286461@f230.mail.ru> I have got ASUS N76Vz ?to home/office today: i7/4 cores/12GB/256GB SSD/1TB HDD.../Win8 Pro Getting from 'Sleep' into active mode - 2.5 seconds, getting 'asleep' or hibernated - 3 seconds, 'unhibernate' - 7.5 seconds etc. I will have quite some setup to do with it in the coming days, currently I have found that VMWare Workstation 9 doesn't even run setup on a PC with Hyper-Venabled - so I have to get learned some Hyper-V administration skills. I have got already a Win8 VM installed under Hyper-V Manager it took about 5-7 minutes to run Win8 VM setup on the ASUS N76Vz notebook... ... Thank you. -- Shamil Thu 15 Nov 2012 16:18:40 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > >That sounds great. > > That laptop is more powerful than most of my servers so it should be more > than adequate. My next big laptop purchase will be along the same lines. > (Just need one more big client...) ;-) > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:18 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Notebook Asus K95VM Ci7-3610M or ... ? > > Hi Jim -- > > I have finally decided to purchase?Asus N76VZ notebook > (90NAJC552W2384VD13AY). - ~USD1500 here. > > It's almost identical to > > >http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Z9EB0O > ? > which have mostly good reviews. > > The difference is that?90NAJC552W2384VD13AY model has > > - two 1TB 5400 rpm HDDs and the one from Amazon referenced above has only > one 1TB 7200 rpm HDD.? > If that notebook would have had: > > - 1SSD (128+GB); > - 1HDD - 1TB 7200rpm; > - 16GB RAM and > - Win8 Prof. > > That would have been almost "ideal notebook" for my current work context I > suppose. > > I'm still to check if Asus N76VZ is able to handle 16GB or not, some sources > tell it can, the others - it cannot. > I have ordered today the actual 16GB memory check in the shop where I plan > to purchase the N76VZ noteboook - the test is planned for this Saturday when > two 8GB memory modules will arrive... > > Thank you.? > > -- Shami > > > ??? 13 ??? 2012 11:33:56 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > >Hi Shamil: > > > > > That's good that you have narrowed it down to the specific model you need. > > > > > Jim<<< ?skipped >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 22 07:26:23 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:26:23 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Converting_a_physical_Windows_Machine_to_a_H?= =?utf-8?q?yper-V_Virtual_Machine?= Message-ID: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru> Hi All -- I wanted to convert Win7 Ultimate physical PC to a Hyper-V one. I have previously planned to make VMWare VM from that physical Pc but it happened VMWare workstation doesn't setup under Win8 Pro with Hyper-V enabled. And I'd like to not keep Hyper-V feature enabled/disabled as I have to run Win8 Phone emulator, which needs active Hyper-V... So I Googled for "migrating windows 7 to hyper-v" and I have got this article: Converting a physical Windows Machine to a Hyper-V Virtual Machine P2V Problem http://www.interactivewebs.com/blog/index.php/server-tips/converting-a-physical-windows-machine-to-a-hyper-v-virtual-machine-p2v-problem/ which didn't sound very optimistic. Then ?I have read this one: Moving physical windows 7 to Hyper - V on windows 2008 r2 http://serverfault.com/questions/150640/moving-physical-windows-7-to-hyper-v-on-windows-2008-r2 ? which sounded optimistic. So I'm going to try now Disk2VHD: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx Did anybody here used Disk2VHD tool to make sucessfull conversion of Win7 (Ultimate) PC to a Hyper-V VM? Thank you. -- Shamil? From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 22 08:23:26 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:23:26 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Converting_a_physical_Windows_Machine_to_a_H?= =?utf-8?q?yper-V_Virtual_Machine?= In-Reply-To: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru> References: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1353594206.183049482@f289.mail.ru> Hi All -- I have just tried to run Disk2VHD to convert 300GB HDD driven Physical PC into a VM (I wanted to keep it temporarily on my new system while getting it tuned) - the target was a USB disk with 530GB of free space but Disk2VHD worked for a whuile and then reported that there is not enough space to make VHD :( Thank you. -- Shamil Thu 22 Nov 2012 17:26:23 ?? Salakhetdinov Shamil : > > > > >Hi All -- > > I wanted to convert Win7 Ultimate physical PC to a Hyper-V one. I have previously planned to make VMWare VM from that physical Pc but it happened VMWare workstation doesn't setup under Win8 Pro with Hyper-V enabled. And I'd like to not keep Hyper-V feature enabled/disabled as I have to run Win8 Phone emulator, which needs active Hyper-V... > > So I Googled for "migrating windows 7 to hyper-v" and I have got this article: > > Converting a physical Windows Machine to a Hyper-V Virtual Machine P2V Problem > >http://www.interactivewebs.com/blog/index.php/server-tips/converting-a-physical-windows-machine-to-a-hyper-v-virtual-machine-p2v-problem/ > > which didn't sound very optimistic. > > Then ?I have read this one: > > Moving physical windows 7 to Hyper - V on windows 2008 r2 > > >http://serverfault.com/questions/150640/moving-physical-windows-7-to-hyper-v-on-windows-2008-r2 > ? > which sounded optimistic. So I'm going to try now Disk2VHD: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx > > Did anybody here used Disk2VHD tool to make sucessfull conversion of Win7 (Ultimate) PC to a Hyper-V VM? > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil? > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 22 08:48:43 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:48:43 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Converting_a_physical_Windows_Machine_to_a_H?= =?utf-8?q?yper-V_Virtual_Machine?= In-Reply-To: <1353594206.183049482@f289.mail.ru> References: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru> <1353594206.183049482@f289.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1353595723.136468337@f78.mail.ru> Tried to get converted just 150 GB ?HDDs (C, D) - Dish2VHD (as it did in the first case) just created one file 4,193,878 bytes long and stopped. It looks like the issue is with USB disk having FAT32?? Thank you. -- Shamil Thu 22 Nov 2012 18:23:26 ?? Salakhetdinov Shamil : > > > > >Hi All -- > > I have just tried to run Disk2VHD to convert 300GB HDD driven Physical PC into a VM (I wanted to keep it temporarily on my new system while getting it tuned) - the target was a USB disk with 530GB of free space but Disk2VHD worked for a whuile and then reported that there is not enough space to make VHD :( > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > Thu 22 Nov 2012 17:26:23 ?? Salakhetdinov Shamil : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi All -- > > > > > > I wanted to convert Win7 Ultimate physical PC to a Hyper-V one. I have previously planned to make VMWare VM from that physical Pc but it happened VMWare workstation doesn't setup under Win8 Pro with Hyper-V enabled. And I'd like to not keep Hyper-V feature enabled/disabled as I have to run Win8 Phone emulator, which needs active Hyper-V... > > > > > > So I Googled for "migrating windows 7 to hyper-v" and I have got this article: > > > > > > Converting a physical Windows Machine to a Hyper-V Virtual Machine P2V Problem > > > >http://www.interactivewebs.com/blog/index.php/server-tips/converting-a-physical-windows-machine-to-a-hyper-v-virtual-machine-p2v-problem/ > > > > > > which didn't sound very optimistic. > > > > > > Then ?I have read this one: > > > > > > Moving physical windows 7 to Hyper - V on windows 2008 r2 > > > > > > >http://serverfault.com/questions/150640/moving-physical-windows-7-to-hyper-v-on-windows-2008-r2 > > > ? > > > which sounded optimistic. So I'm going to try now Disk2VHD: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx > > > > > > Did anybody here used Disk2VHD tool to make sucessfull conversion of Win7 (Ultimate) PC to a Hyper-V VM? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > -- Shamil? > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Nov 22 11:55:10 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:55:10 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Converting a physical Windows Machine to a Hyper-V Virtual Machine In-Reply-To: <1353595723.136468337@f78.mail.ru> References: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru><1353594206.183049482@f289.mail.ru> <1353595723.136468337@f78.mail.ru> Message-ID: <722199D83C66495783FC3D071D708F22@creativesystemdesigns.com> Sorry to hear of your problems. We are all hoping you get a solution as it will then decide which OS will be the base and which the virtual drive or will it be that Win8 just has to run on its own separate computer with only compatible applications installed? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 6:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Converting a physical Windows Machine to a Hyper-V Virtual Machine Tried to get converted just 150 GB ?HDDs (C, D) - Dish2VHD (as it did in the first case) just created one file 4,193,878 bytes long and stopped. It looks like the issue is with USB disk having FAT32?? Thank you. -- Shamil Thu 22 Nov 2012 18:23:26 ?? Salakhetdinov Shamil : > > > > >Hi All -- > > I have just tried to run Disk2VHD to convert 300GB HDD driven Physical PC into a VM (I wanted to keep it temporarily on my new system while getting it tuned) - the target was a USB disk with 530GB of free space but Disk2VHD worked for a whuile and then reported that there is not enough space to make VHD :( > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > Thu 22 Nov 2012 17:26:23 ?? Salakhetdinov Shamil : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi All -- > > > > > > I wanted to convert Win7 Ultimate physical PC to a Hyper-V one. I have previously planned to make VMWare VM from that physical Pc but it happened VMWare workstation doesn't setup under Win8 Pro with Hyper-V enabled. And I'd like to not keep Hyper-V feature enabled/disabled as I have to run Win8 Phone emulator, which needs active Hyper-V... > > > > > > So I Googled for "migrating windows 7 to hyper-v" and I have got this article: > > > > > > Converting a physical Windows Machine to a Hyper-V Virtual Machine P2V Problem > > > >http://www.interactivewebs.com/blog/index.php/server-tips/converting-a-phys ical-windows-machine-to-a-hyper-v-virtual-machine-p2v-problem/ > > > > > > which didn't sound very optimistic. > > > > > > Then ?I have read this one: > > > > > > Moving physical windows 7 to Hyper - V on windows 2008 r2 > > > > > > >http://serverfault.com/questions/150640/moving-physical-windows-7-to-hyper- v-on-windows-2008-r2 > > > ? > > > which sounded optimistic. So I'm going to try now Disk2VHD: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx > > > > > > Did anybody here used Disk2VHD tool to make sucessfull conversion of Win7 (Ultimate) PC to a Hyper-V VM? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > -- Shamil? > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Nov 22 15:17:47 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:17:47 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Converting_a_physical_Windows_Machine_to_a_H?= =?utf-8?q?yper-V_Virtual_Machine?= In-Reply-To: <722199D83C66495783FC3D071D708F22@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru><1353594206.183049482@f289.mail.ru> <1353595723.136468337@f78.mail.ru> <722199D83C66495783FC3D071D708F22@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <1353619067.394564865@f169.mail.ru> Hi Jim -- That weren't problems, that were challenges :) I must note system administration and hardware is not what I like and I know how to do well... Anyway: - I have finally got two disks (C - 100GB and D - 50GB) of my physical PC - DELL Inspiron 9400 - moved by Disk2Vhd v. 1.63 into one VHD on the new notebook ASUS N76Vz. The move/conversion took almost three hours as I used rather slow network connection (still to upgrade my 10 years old router/WAP) between old and new PCs. The old PC has two other disks - E: (50GB) and F: (100GB) which I left out of conversion; - I have then created a Win7 VM under Hyper-V Manager running on Win8 Prof, added converted VHD and created two "placeholder" SCSI disks E: and F: - I have then run my converted Win7 WM under Hyper-V running within Win8 Prof - and it worked! I'm really surprised and a bit excited I must note. If there will be no any issues/hardcore challenges found in the coming days then I'd be even more surprised: that Hyper-V and Disk2VHD v.21.63 conversion tool are really masterpiece technologies ! To backup/restore the other two disks (E: and F:) real data I will use Acronis, which I'm using on regular basis to make backups). As I have noted I created two "placeholder" disks for the sources E: and F: ones, which weren't moved but it looks like conversion utility - Disk2Vhd v.1.63 - creates such placeholders automatically (still to check)... The current challenge is to enabled/activate network connections for my VMs - do you know good sources describing how to do that enabling/activation for Hyper-V VMs? Thank you. - Shamil P.S. BTW,?while conversion was in progress I went to cinema to watch "Skyfall" :) (I like the song from that movie, I can't say I liked the movie itself, it was rather dynamic action movie in the beginning but then it went too stupid and not as dynamic as I wanted it to be. I waited for the song to be repeated in the end of the movie (if you didn't see the movie - they put the song in the beginning) but they didn't repeat the song. Pity. And in the same time as conversion was in progress my son played MineCraft on my new PC - so everybody and everything were busy/getting entertained this late evening here :) Thu 22 Nov 2012 09:55:10 ?? "Jim Lawrence" : > > > > >Sorry to hear of your problems. > > We are all hoping you get a solution as it will then decide which OS will be > the base and which the virtual drive or will it be that Win8 just has to run > on its own separate computer with only compatible applications installed? > > Jim > > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Nov 22 15:21:18 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:21:18 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? In-Reply-To: <722199D83C66495783FC3D071D708F22@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru><1353594206.183049482@f289.mail.ru><1353595723.136468337@f78.mail.ru> <722199D83C66495783FC3D071D708F22@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Here is an excellent explanation of why Windows 8 is the way it is. Regardless whether you like Win8 or not does not matter but the concepts behind its design and designers are hard to fault. http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/jensen-harris-tells-story-design-windows-8 Jim From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Nov 23 01:52:58 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:52:58 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? Message-ID: <000501cdc94f$8e50c5f0$aaf251d0$@cactus.dk> Hi Jim True. Jensen Harris is a gifted speaker with a lovely humour. This is a must-see video for any techie or software designer who wants to understand the philosophy behind Windows 8. I'm still impressed by the enormous research and work that has been put into Windows 8 all the way from the large perspective to the finest detail. An interesting effect is how it in one flip completely outdates the Apple iOS GUI. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 22. november 2012 22:21 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? Here is an excellent explanation of why Windows 8 is the way it is. Regardless whether you like Win8 or not does not matter but the concepts behind its design and designers are hard to fault. http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/jensen-harris-tells-story-design-windows-8 Jim From mcp2004 at mail.ru Fri Nov 23 06:03:01 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:03:01 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Windows_8_why=3F?= In-Reply-To: <000501cdc94f$8e50c5f0$aaf251d0$@cactus.dk> References: <000501cdc94f$8e50c5f0$aaf251d0$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1353672181.871736045@f216.mail.ru> Hi Gustav and Jim -- Yes, that is a very interesting?presentation. But weren't you "captured" by Jensen Harris?charismatic?style of presentation? Do you use Win8 everyday there? As you know I'm in the process of switching to Win8 as my main development system PC/notebook as I wanted to start developing for WinPhone8 and Windows RT. And I must note that currently my feeling of Win8 is as the following: "On a regular PC, Windows 8 is Mr. Hyde: a monster that terrorizes poor office workers and strangles their productivity." http://www.useit.com/alertbox/windows-8.html Yes, I'm using Win8 for one day only but I suppose the author of the referred above article is more right than wrong if one is accustomed to work with desktop part of Window using mouse/touchpad. For example, (that could be my notebook touchpad/my fingers issue or a general use case) - when I'm in *desktop mode* and I'm quickly moving mouse cursor from left to right ?by using my notebook's touchpad (and I'm first unconsciouly?pushing touchpad a bit) then I'm getting appeared rather large Win8 CommandBar (Search/Share/Start/Devices/Settings) on the right side of display and a large tile with current time, battery info on the left bottom corner. A kind of annoying as it doesn't appear every time - but most of the time and as I don't need it when it appears. (What for Windows "Metro-style" UI commandbar is needed in desktop mode at all, any way to suppress it ?completely as well as time/battery info tile while in desktop mode?)... Anyway I have to adapt to Win8 ASAP, and I'm going to learn all kinds of Windows and other apps hot-keys, tips, tricks and secrets to get my UI manipulation productivity back to Win7 level... or higher?: "HomeNews by technologySoftwareOperating systems50 Windows 8 tips, tricks and secrets?50 Windows 8 tips, tricks and secrets" http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/50-windows-8-tips-tricks-and-secrets-1028220 Did you notice in Jensen Harris year 1992 technology and design state "history excursion" as he mentioned WordPerfect which was then replaced by Word for Windows 1.0 as well as Yahoo which was then "superseded?"by Google? - Win8 UI looks here as "WordPerfect and Yahoo" UI of year 2012, "WordPerfect" because I have to learn quite some hot-keys now to work with Win8 in desktop mode effectively, and Yahoo because its "Metro-style" interface could be as "crowded" as Yahoo one was... So, "regardless of whether Metro is any good?opinions vary, apparently?one thing is incontrovertible. In Windows 8, Metro is not complete."? http://winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-review-part-2-metro-windows-144318 You decide, wait for Windows 9 or go through Win8 adaptation "painful" experience right now... Thank you. -- Shamil Fri 23 Nov 2012 08:52:58 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > >Hi Jim > > True. Jensen Harris is a gifted speaker with a lovely humour. This is a > must-see video for any techie or software designer who wants to understand > the philosophy behind Windows 8. I'm still impressed by the enormous > research and work that has been put into Windows 8 all the way from the > large perspective to the finest detail. An interesting effect is how it in > one flip completely outdates the Apple iOS GUI. > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence > Sendt: 22. november 2012 22:21 > Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? > > Here is an excellent explanation of why Windows 8 is the way it is. > Regardless whether you like Win8 or not does not matter but the concepts > behind its design and designers are hard to fault. > > >http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/jensen-harris-tells-story-design-windows-8 > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Nov 23 07:18:56 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:18:56 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? Message-ID: <005c01cdc97d$178ca280$46a5e780$@cactus.dk> Hi Shamil Well, I've used Windows 8 from the beta and haven't missed the Start menu for a second. Of course, you have to learn to "hit the corners" but that comes quickly. One thing to learn, however, is not to switch off the computer, just touch the power button and it falls to sleep - touch again and it is ready in a few seconds. The reference to 1992 is very good and explains why a GUI in 2012 cannot be based on a 1992 environment ... it's 20 years ago. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil Sendt: 23. november 2012 13:03 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? Hi Gustav and Jim -- Yes, that is a very interesting presentation. But weren't you "captured" by Jensen Harris charismatic style of presentation? Do you use Win8 everyday there? As you know I'm in the process of switching to Win8 as my main development system PC/notebook as I wanted to start developing for WinPhone8 and Windows RT. And I must note that currently my feeling of Win8 is as the following: "On a regular PC, Windows 8 is Mr. Hyde: a monster that terrorizes poor office workers and strangles their productivity." http://www.useit.com/alertbox/windows-8.html Yes, I'm using Win8 for one day only but I suppose the author of the referred above article is more right than wrong if one is accustomed to work with desktop part of Window using mouse/touchpad. For example, (that could be my notebook touchpad/my fingers issue or a general use case) - when I'm in *desktop mode* and I'm quickly moving mouse cursor from left to right by using my notebook's touchpad (and I'm first unconsciouly pushing touchpad a bit) then I'm getting appeared rather large Win8 CommandBar (Search/Share/Start/Devices/Settings) on the right side of display and a large tile with current time, battery info on the left bottom corner. A kind of annoying as it doesn't appear every time - but most of the time and as I don't need it when it appears. (What for Windows "Metro-style" UI commandbar is needed in desktop mode at all, any way to suppress it completely as well as time/battery info tile while in desktop mode?)... Anyway I have to adapt to Win8 ASAP, and I'm going to learn all kinds of Windows and other apps hot-keys, tips, tricks and secrets to get my UI manipulation productivity back to Win7 level... or higher?: "HomeNews by technologySoftwareOperating systems50 Windows 8 tips, tricks and secrets 50 Windows 8 tips, tricks and secrets" http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/50-windows-8-tips-tricks-and-secrets-1028220 Did you notice in Jensen Harris year 1992 technology and design state "history excursion" as he mentioned WordPerfect which was then replaced by Word for Windows 1.0 as well as Yahoo which was then "superseded "by Google? - Win8 UI looks here as "WordPerfect and Yahoo" UI of year 2012, "WordPerfect" because I have to learn quite some hot-keys now to work with Win8 in desktop mode effectively, and Yahoo because its "Metro-style" interface could be as "crowded" as Yahoo one was... So, "regardless of whether Metro is any good?opinions vary, apparently?one thing is incontrovertible. In Windows 8, Metro is not complete." http://winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-review-part-2-metro-windows-144318 You decide, wait for Windows 9 or go through Win8 adaptation "painful" experience right now... Thank you. -- Shamil Fri 23 Nov 2012 08:52:58 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > >Hi Jim > > True. Jensen Harris is a gifted speaker with a lovely humour. This is a > must-see video for any techie or software designer who wants to understand > the philosophy behind Windows 8. I'm still impressed by the enormous > research and work that has been put into Windows 8 all the way from the > large perspective to the finest detail. An interesting effect is how it in > one flip completely outdates the Apple iOS GUI. > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence > Sendt: 22. november 2012 22:21 > Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? > > Here is an excellent explanation of why Windows 8 is the way it is. > Regardless whether you like Win8 or not does not matter but the concepts > behind its design and designers are hard to fault. > > >http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/jensen-harris-tells-story-design-windows-8 > > Jim From mcp2004 at mail.ru Fri Nov 23 09:31:53 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 19:31:53 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Windows_8_why=3F?= In-Reply-To: <005c01cdc97d$178ca280$46a5e780$@cactus.dk> References: <005c01cdc97d$178ca280$46a5e780$@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1353684713.598115053@f11.mail.ru> Hi Gustav -- Good to know you're an advanced Win8 user. I will keep consulting about "hit the corners" and other tricks with you here, OK? BTW, did you find a way to put several Win9 "Metro-style" UI running apps *windows* tiles on a big 23 inches screen? Jensen Harris presented an example with Twitter window tiled on the left side of the screen and the "main" app tile on the right and occupying the whole rest part of the screen. May I put three Win9 "Metro style"/WinRT running apps this way? If Yes, how can I do that by using a regular notebook "armored" with touchpad only? <<< The reference to 1992 is very good and explains why a GUI in 2012 cannot be based on a 1992 environment ... it's 20 years ago. >>> Yes... and No. In fact, in my opinion (I can be wrong), the main reasons to design and build "Metro-style" interface were: - 1. Legal - they (MS) wanted to avoid by any means "copycatting" Apple UI ideas introduced in iPhone and iPad; - 2. Technical - they (MS) needed to put "new Windows UI" running on relatively "weak" ARM processors. Do you remember "Windows Surface Table" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYoCmPKqHoY?- that was year 2009, the year Jensen Harris tells in his presentation MS started to design and develop new "Metro-style" UI, the year when ?iPhone 3GS was released. Do you see any "Win 9 marks" in the past "Windows Surface Tablet"? It looks more like Apply taskbar put in the middle of the "Windows Surface Table" screen... Yes, MS did a very good job in the given context - still "In Windows 8, Metro is not complete" - one can expect it will get rather significant improvements in the coming years as it always happened in the past with MS products.. Thank you. -- Shamil Fri 23 Nov 2012 14:18:56 ?? "Gustav Brock" : >Hi Shamil > > Well, I've used Windows 8 from the beta and haven't missed the Start menu for a second. Of course, you have to learn to "hit the corners" but that comes quickly. One thing to learn, however, is not to switch off the computer, just touch the power button and it falls to sleep - touch again and it is ready in a few seconds. > > The reference to 1992 is very good and explains why a GUI in 2012 cannot be based on a 1992 environment ... it's 20 years ago. > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > Sendt: 23. november 2012 13:03 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? > > Hi Gustav and Jim -- > > Yes, that is a very interesting presentation. > But weren't you "captured" by Jensen Harris charismatic style of presentation? > Do you use Win8 everyday there? > > As you know I'm in the process of switching to Win8 as my main development system PC/notebook as I wanted to start developing for WinPhone8 and Windows RT. And I must note that currently my feeling of Win8 is as the following: > > "On a regular PC, Windows 8 is Mr. Hyde: a monster that terrorizes poor office workers and strangles their productivity." >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/windows-8.html > Yes, I'm using Win8 for one day only but I suppose the author of the referred above article is more right than wrong if one is accustomed to work with desktop part of Window using mouse/touchpad. For example, (that could be my notebook touchpad/my fingers issue or a general use case) - when I'm in *desktop mode* and I'm quickly moving mouse cursor from left to right by using my notebook's touchpad (and I'm first unconsciouly pushing touchpad a bit) then I'm getting appeared rather large Win8 CommandBar (Search/Share/Start/Devices/Settings) on the right side of display and a large tile with current time, battery info on the left bottom corner. A kind of annoying as it doesn't appear every time - but most of the time and as I don't need it when it appears. (What for Windows "Metro-style" UI commandbar is needed in desktop mode at all, any way to suppress it completely as well as time/battery info tile while in desktop mode?)... > > Anyway I have to adapt to Win8 ASAP, and I'm going to learn all kinds of Windows and other apps hot-keys, tips, tricks and secrets to get my UI manipulation productivity back to Win7 level... or higher?: > "HomeNews by technologySoftwareOperating systems50 Windows 8 tips, tricks and secrets 50 Windows 8 tips, tricks and secrets" >http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/50-windows-8-tips-tricks-and-secrets-1028220 > > Did you notice in Jensen Harris year 1992 technology and design state "history excursion" as he mentioned WordPerfect which was then replaced by Word for Windows 1.0 as well as Yahoo which was then "superseded "by Google? - Win8 UI looks here as "WordPerfect and Yahoo" UI of year 2012, "WordPerfect" because I have to learn quite some hot-keys now to work with Win8 in desktop mode effectively, and Yahoo because its "Metro-style" interface could be as "crowded" as Yahoo one was... > > So, "regardless of whether Metro is any good?opinions vary, apparently?one thing is incontrovertible. In Windows 8, Metro is not complete." >http://winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-review-part-2-metro-windows-144318 > > You decide, wait for Windows 9 or go through Win8 adaptation "painful" experience right now... > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil ><> From tinanfields at torchlake.com Fri Nov 23 12:56:40 2012 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:56:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? In-Reply-To: References: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru><1353594206.183049482@f289.mail.ru><1353595723.136468337@f78.mail.ru> <722199D83C66495783FC3D071D708F22@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <50AFC6E8.1020005@torchlake.com> Dear Jim, Truly, I thank you for posting this link. Jensen Harris tells a compelling story that resonates with me in a joyous way. I especially appreciate the commitment to five design principles. Oh my! I hope Microsoft stays faithful to this vision, which I believe to be noble. Thanks again, T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 11/22/2012 4:21 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Here is an excellent explanation of why Windows 8 is the way it is. > Regardless whether you like Win8 or not does not matter but the concepts > behind its design and designers are hard to fault. > > http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/jensen-harris-tells-story-design-windows-8 > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Nov 23 14:06:12 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:06:12 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Steve Wozniak: 'Microsoft is more innovative than Apple' In-Reply-To: <50AFC6E8.1020005@torchlake.com> References: <1353590783.597786506@f230.mail.ru><1353594206.183049482@f289.mail.ru><1353595723.136468337@f78.mail.ru><722199D83C66495783FC3D071D708F22@creativesystemdesigns.com> <50AFC6E8.1020005@torchlake.com> Message-ID: Is this true? Steve is now posting a warning to Apple. http://www.digitalspy.ca/tech/news/a438756/steve-wozniak-microsoft-is-more-i nnovative-than-apple.html?rss Jim From ssharkins at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 09:28:46 2012 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:28:46 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any of you work with XML docs in Word? Message-ID: >From a reader -- truly have no clue what he's talking about. Anyone got any advice? Susan H. hi there jody, at some point i was able to see a list of fields available in the XML document being used to create this word document. i dont seem to be able to do that anymore. i hope you understand what i mean. i have a table that has the wrong data in one of the places. i want to be able to choose a different field from the xml schema but i cant remember/figure out how i did it before. i have the developer tab enabled but i just cant find this list of tables/fields i used to be able to use. please advise =) -jon From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 10:42:21 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 11:42:21 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any of you work with XML docs in Word? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It has to do with View Bookmarks but its location changes by version of Word. Try the Help for View Bookmarks. A. On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > From a reader -- truly have no clue what he's talking about. Anyone got > any advice? > > Susan H. > > hi there jody, > > at some point i was able to see a list of fields available in the XML > document being used to create this word document. i dont seem to be able to > do that anymore. i hope you understand what i mean. i have a table that has > the wrong data in one of the places. i want to be able to choose a > different field from the xml schema but i cant remember/figure out how i > did it before. i have the developer tab enabled but i just cant find this > list of tables/fields i used to be able to use. please advise =) > > -jon > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr From ssharkins at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 11:18:00 2012 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:18:00 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any of you work with XML docs in Word? References: Message-ID: View Bookmarks -- oh, I wish I'd thought of that Arthur. Thanks! Susan H. > It has to do with View Bookmarks but its location changes by version of > Word. > Try the Help for View Bookmarks. > > A. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 11:25:11 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:25:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any of you work with XML docs in Word? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No problem, Dahling! Now that I've turned 65, I count my un-senior moments, which are fewer :) A. On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > View Bookmarks -- oh, I wish I'd thought of that Arthur. Thanks! > > Susan H. > > It has to do with View Bookmarks but its location changes by version of >> Word. >> Try the Help for View Bookmarks. >> >> A. >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Nov 24 15:56:28 2012 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 07:56:28 +1000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any of you work with XML docs in Word? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50B1428C.28205.1C00BD29@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Word/Excel .docx and .xlsx documents are actually collections of compressed XML files. Rename a word .docx to .zip, open it in Widnows Explorer and poke around, you can view/edit all of the individual XML elements which make up your document But I don't think he is talking about viewing the raw XML in that way. He may be talking about View - Document Views - Outline where what you see is actually the XML tree and where you can move elements around. On 24 Nov 2012 at 10:28, Susan Harkins wrote: > From a reader -- truly have no clue what he's talking about. Anyone got any advice? > > Susan H. > > hi there jody, > > at some point i was able to see a list of fields available in the XML > document being used to create this word document. i dont seem to be > able to do that anymore. i hope you understand what i mean. i have a > table that has the wrong data in one of the places. i want to be able > to choose a different field from the xml schema but i cant > remember/figure out how i did it before. i have the developer tab > enabled but i just cant find this list of tables/fields i used to be > able to use. please advise =) > > -jon > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Sun Nov 25 01:53:49 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:53:49 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Any_of_you_work_with_XML_docs_in_Word=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1353830029.306412223@f353.mail.ru> Hi Susan -- It's unclear what version of MS Word your reader uses. MS Word 2003 introduced so called ?WordProcessingML (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordProcessingML) and MS Word 2007 - Open Office XML (OOXML -?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_XML_formats) -?http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338205.aspx. WordProcessingML seems to be depreciated now. When you're trying to save a doc with WordProcessingML elements ?(in MS Word 2010) you're getting a message: "The file contains custom XML elements which are no longer supported by Word. If you save this file, these custom XML elements will be removed permanently." I worked with OOXML MS Word and MS Excel docs - Custom XML Parts etc. (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb398244.aspx). last autumn using them in a C# project via Open XML SDK 2.0 (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5124). I must note that was a "hardcore stuff" for beginners (as I was that time). Open XML SDK allows to almost completely avoid MS Word (and MS Excel) Automation/Mail Merge when generating MS Word/MS Excel/MS PowerPont/... documents from scratch or using templates... Try to get cleared what MS Word version and what XML implementation applied to MS Word docs your reader uses. Here is a link on?http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb386290.aspx?(Walkthrough: Creating a Template By Using Content Controls). It uses C# and VB.NET but it's possible to use MS Word VBA (IDE) to repeat the steps from that walkthrough)... I do not know how to create MS Word documents templates using custom XML parts *without using code*. If you'll find a way how to do that please post the links/walk-through here.. I must also note that I'm not working with MS Word XML (WordProcessingML and/or Custom XML Parts ?and/or .... ?) on regular basis so I could be missing some other options... Thank you. -- Shamil Sat 24 Nov 2012 10:28:46 ?? "Susan Harkins" : > > > > >From a reader -- truly have no clue what he's talking about. Anyone got any advice? > > Susan H. > > hi there jody, > > at some point i was able to see a list of fields available in the XML document being used to create this word document. i dont seem to be able to do that anymore. i hope you understand what i mean. i have a table that has the wrong data in one of the places. i want to be able to choose a different field from the xml schema but i cant remember/figure out how i did it before. i have the developer tab enabled but i just cant find this list of tables/fields i used to be able to use. please advise =) > > -jon > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From gustav at cactus.dk Sun Nov 25 02:55:52 2012 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:55:52 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? Message-ID: Hi Shamil Yes: - you open one or more apps - switch to any of these - move the mouse to the top-left corner. A Desktop miniature is shown - right-click on the miniature - choose from the pop-up menu: Pin to left (or similar, it's localized) Now the running Windows desktop apps are vertically listed to the left and the RT app at the right. If you double-click the divider bar, it moves to the right maximizing the desktop app with only the right vertical band of the RT app visible. Pull the divider bar to the right or left screen edge to exit the mixed display mode. Based on what I've read and watched and my meeting with some of the Metro design people at a meeting here some months ago, I for once think you are wrong. I'm convinced that heavy research following the "glass look" Avalon interface of Vista and Win7 and how to design a reinvented Windows Phone interface, the bright Metro team came to the conclusion that the aera of skeuomorphs in computer interface starting with the NeXT computer, OS/2 and Windows 3.0 and evolved into the absurd with the iCalendar and the Bookshelf as prime examples, has come to an end. It has to stop, if for nothing else because children and young people will not understand it. On the other side, graphical designers have for decades known how to communicate fast and efficiently with people at any level. Given the very conservative computer users and the extremely conservative corporate users, this is a brave and aggressive decision done by Microsoft. This is not just a smart move to be different. The five design principles just seem so right and up-to-date that you may wonder why they haven't been pulled forward before. Of course, your two arguments are not false, they are just spin-offs. And yes, I do remember the surface table. It looks funny today but can be seen as one of the steps taken to get where we are today. /gustav >>> mcp2004 at mail.ru 23-11-12 16:31 >>> Hi Gustav -- Good to know you're an advanced Win8 user. I will keep consulting about "hit the corners" and other tricks with you here, OK? BTW, did you find a way to put several Win9 "Metro-style" UI running apps *windows* tiles on a big 23 inches screen? Jensen Harris presented an example with Twitter window tiled on the left side of the screen and the "main" app tile on the right and occupying the whole rest part of the screen. May I put three Win9 "Metro style"/WinRT running apps this way? If Yes, how can I do that by using a regular notebook "armored" with touchpad only? <<< The reference to 1992 is very good and explains why a GUI in 2012 cannot be based on a 1992 environment ... it's 20 years ago. >>> Yes... and No. In fact, in my opinion (I can be wrong), the main reasons to design and build "Metro-style" interface were: - 1. Legal - they (MS) wanted to avoid by any means "copycatting" Apple UI ideas introduced in iPhone and iPad; - 2. Technical - they (MS) needed to put "new Windows UI" running on relatively "weak" ARM processors. Do you remember "Windows Surface Table" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYoCmPKqHoY*- that was year 2009, the year Jensen Harris tells in his presentation MS started to design and develop new "Metro-style" UI, the year when *iPhone 3GS was released. Do you see any "Win 9 marks" in the past "Windows Surface Tablet"? It looks more like Apply taskbar put in the middle of the "Windows Surface Table" screen... Yes, MS did a very good job in the given context - still "In Windows 8, Metro is not complete" - one can expect it will get rather significant improvements in the coming years as it always happened in the past with MS products.. Thank you. -- Shamil Fri 23 Nov 2012 14:18:56 ?? "Gustav Brock" : >Hi Shamil > > Well, I've used Windows 8 from the beta and haven't missed the Start menu for a second. Of course, you have to learn to "hit the corners" but that comes quickly. One thing to learn, however, is not to switch off the computer, just touch the power button and it falls to sleep - touch again and it is ready in a few seconds. > > The reference to 1992 is very good and explains why a GUI in 2012 cannot be based on a 1992 environment ... it's 20 years ago. > > /gustav From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 07:52:41 2012 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:52:41 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Any of you work with XML docs in Word? References: <1353830029.306412223@f353.mail.ru> Message-ID: thanks Shamil -- I'll pass this along to the reader -- hopefully, he'll figure it out! Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Any of you work with XML docs in Word? > Hi Susan -- > > It's unclear what version of MS Word your reader uses. > MS Word 2003 introduced so called WordProcessingML > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordProcessingML) and MS Word 2007 - Open > Office XML (OOXML - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_XML_formats) - > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338205.aspx. > > WordProcessingML seems to be depreciated now. When you're trying to save a > doc with WordProcessingML elements (in MS Word 2010) you're getting a > message: "The file contains custom XML elements which are no longer > supported by Word. If you save this file, these custom XML elements will > be removed permanently." > > I worked with OOXML MS Word and MS Excel docs - Custom XML Parts etc. > (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb398244.aspx). last autumn using > them in a C# project via Open XML SDK 2.0 > (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5124). > I must note that was a "hardcore stuff" for beginners (as I was that > time). > Open XML SDK allows to almost completely avoid MS Word (and MS Excel) > Automation/Mail Merge when generating MS Word/MS Excel/MS PowerPont/... > documents from scratch or using templates... > > Try to get cleared what MS Word version and what XML implementation > applied to MS Word docs your reader uses. > > Here is a link on http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb386290.aspx > (Walkthrough: Creating a Template By Using Content Controls). It uses C# > and VB.NET but it's possible to use MS Word VBA (IDE) to repeat the steps > from that walkthrough)... > > I do not know how to create MS Word documents templates using custom XML > parts *without using code*. If you'll find a way how to do that please > post the links/walk-through here.. > > I must also note that I'm not working with MS Word XML (WordProcessingML > and/or Custom XML Parts and/or .... ?) on regular basis so I could be > missing some other options... > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > Sat 24 Nov 2012 10:28:46 ?? "Susan Harkins" : >> >> >> > > >> > > > >>From a reader -- truly have no clue what he's talking about. Anyone got >>any advice? >> > >> > Susan H. >> > >> > hi there jody, >> > >> > at some point i was able to see a list of fields available in the XML > document being used to create this word document. i dont seem to be able > to do that anymore. i hope you understand what i mean. i have a table that > has the wrong data in one of the places. i want to be able to choose a > different field from the xml schema but i cant remember/figure out how i > did it before. i have the developer tab enabled but i just cant find this > list of tables/fields i used to be able to use. please advise =) >> > >> > -jon >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > dba-Tech mailing list >> >>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mcp2004 at mail.ru Sun Nov 25 10:23:52 2012 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:23:52 +0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Windows_8_why=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1353860632.205167499@f126.mail.ru> Hi Gustav -- Thank you for the tip with Win8 display split. No problem with our disagreement on what caused Win8 to look as it's now. In fact all the Win8 design principles??and "sub-principles" (http://www.twipemobile.com/windows8-metro-5-style-design-principles/) are perfectly inline with my own software UI design principles and experience except "content before chrome" And "content before chrome" for me is not equivalent to "do more with less" and "chrome" are not only bright colors (that Win8 bright colors are OK) but also beautiful graphical design with small masterpiece graphical work details as one can find in?"Avalon glass look"... Let's see how Win8 will evolve with years... And I'm back to my Win8-64bit-driven notebook to get it "fully-armored" with VS2012, MS SQL 2012, MS Office 2013, SharePoint 2012 etc., end of the next week hopefully to convert all existing projects and to start learning Win7.5/8 phone and WinRT development... Thank you. -- Shamil Sun 25 Nov 2012 09:55:52 ?? "Gustav Brock" : > > > > >Hi Shamil > > Yes: > ?- you open one or more apps > ?- switch to any of these > ?- move the mouse to the top-left corner. A Desktop miniature is shown > ?- right-click on the miniature > ?- choose from the pop-up menu: Pin to left (or similar, it's localized) > > Now the running Windows desktop apps are vertically listed to the left and the RT app at the right. > If you double-click the divider bar, it moves to the right maximizing the desktop app with only the right vertical band of the RT app visible. > Pull the divider bar to the right or left screen edge to exit the mixed display mode. > > Based on what I've read and watched and my meeting with some of the Metro design people at a meeting here some months ago, I for once think you are wrong. > > I'm convinced that heavy research following the "glass look" Avalon interface of Vista and Win7 and how to design a reinvented Windows Phone interface, the bright Metro team came to the conclusion that the aera of skeuomorphs in computer interface starting with the NeXT computer, OS/2 and Windows 3.0 and evolved into the absurd with the iCalendar and the Bookshelf as prime examples, has come to an end. It has to stop, if for nothing else because children and young people will not understand it. On the other side, graphical designers have for decades known how to communicate fast and efficiently with people at any level. > > Given the very conservative computer users and the extremely conservative corporate users, this is a brave and aggressive decision done by Microsoft. This is not just a smart move to be different. The five design principles just seem so right and up-to-date that you may wonder why they haven't been pulled forward before. > > Of course, your two arguments are not false, they are just spin-offs. > > And yes, I do remember the surface table. It looks funny today but can be seen as one of the steps taken to get where we are today. > > /gustav > > From Gustav at cactus.dk Sun Nov 25 11:04:56 2012 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:04:56 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8 why? Message-ID: Hi Shamil Yes, let's see. No doubt that Microsoft is collecting a hugh amount of feedback on Windows 8 to prepare a better Windows 9. Thanks for your story about your new wonder-machine. It's interesting how much a portable can perform today at reasonable cost. /gustav >>> mcp2004 at mail.ru 25-11-12 17:23 >>> Hi Gustav -- Thank you for the tip with Win8 display split. No problem with our disagreement on what caused Win8 to look as it's now. In fact all the Win8 design principles**and "sub-principles" (http://www.twipemobile.com/windows8-metro-5-style-design-principles/) are perfectly inline with my own software UI design principles and experience except "content before chrome" And "content before chrome" for me is not equivalent to "do more with less" and "chrome" are not only bright colors (that Win8 bright colors are OK) but also beautiful graphical design with small masterpiece graphical work details as one can find in*"Avalon glass look"... Let's see how Win8 will evolve with years... And I'm back to my Win8-64bit-driven notebook to get it "fully-armored" with VS2012, MS SQL 2012, MS Office 2013, SharePoint 2012 etc., end of the next week hopefully to convert all existing projects and to start learning Win7.5/8 phone and WinRT development... Thank you. -- Shamil From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 23:07:23 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:07:23 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: This just in: We grow old Message-ID: The average age of the Rolling Stones is 69. The average age of the US Supreme Court justices is 67. Sheesh. Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Nov 27 01:20:26 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:20:26 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: This just in: We grow old In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't you feel young now? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:07 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: This just in: We grow old The average age of the Rolling Stones is 69. The average age of the US Supreme Court justices is 67. Sheesh. Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 06:06:39 2012 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:06:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove a gmail filter Message-ID: I was cleaning up my gmail stuff, creating filters and specifying Delete and Delete Existing messages for each one (stuff I am no longer interested in). Unfortunately, when creating a new filter, I didn't realize that more than one message was tagged. So I need to remove that particular filter now. But I can't find where they are located. Does anyone know? TIA, Arthur From jason at purplecone.com Tue Nov 27 07:17:18 2012 From: jason at purplecone.com (Jason Strickland) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:17:18 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Remove a gmail filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Click your gear icon and click Settings. You will then see a Filter tab. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I was cleaning up my gmail stuff, creating filters and specifying Delete > and Delete Existing messages for each one (stuff I am no longer interested > in). Unfortunately, when creating a new filter, I didn't realize that more > than one message was tagged. So I need to remove that particular filter > now. But I can't find where they are located. Does anyone know? > > TIA, > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- "One reason a dog has so many friends: he wags his tail instead of his tongue." From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Nov 30 13:25:30 2012 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:25:30 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] New web APIs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <350589A8C8884084B3D1EA753A12C3AF@creativesystemdesigns.com> The truth is, no matter how well your application works the main feature that draws clients in to use you APPs are its graphical interface. Rightly or wrongly potential users avoid programs that are not pretty as well as functional. To that end, a series of new web APIs are on their way. The graphical interface for your web sites will never be the same or easier to build. http://blog.alexmaccaw.com/ Chrome is about to release a full featured OS but unlike competitors this OS runs on your browser. http://developer.chrome.com/apps/about_apps.html and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8oFAr1YR-0 Auto-Complete, a new simpler method for filling out forms and transferring web data. Particularly useful when buying and selling internationally. Adobe is expanding its tool sets so that virtually any graphical and automated filtering transition can be created very easily. http://html.adobe.com/webstandards/ Both Firefox and Adobe are working on building a OSS replacement for Flash. https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/11/popcorn-maker-1-0-released-how-it-works/ and http://www.geek.com/articles/news/adobe-release-their-own-html5-flash-replac ement-app-called-edge-2011081/ And finally, the complex AJAX connection will have a slick new easy interface: http://taskjs.org/ Jim