Arthur Fuller
fuller.artful at gmail.com
Sun Feb 3 13:04:02 CST 2013
Is there a VM that runs BeOS? I tried it way back when and would like to try it again. A. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > You are correct. I do have some affection for it, in the sense that it > saddens me when technology with great potential that is technically better > than the competition dies prematurely because of market realities. BeOS was > fast and a really well designed OS. It didn't have tons of legacy junk to > complicate things and it was capable of proper multitasking. There are > YouTube videos out there that demonstrate just how many system intensive > things they were able to run concurrently without the OS breaking a sweat > or slowing/stuttering and all on the modest technology we had back then > (early pentiums etc). > > BeOS was a chance for us to have a clean break - a well thought out OS > that was designed to take proper advantage of the more modern hardware and > CPU architecture of the time. Instead, what we got were legacy systems that > were slowly brought up to modern standard (and, even then, not completely) > by means of plugging and patching. And, as a software developer, that makes > me sad. > > - Hans > > > On 2013-01-31, at 1:03 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello Hans-Christian, > > > > I can see that you had some affection for BeOS, > > > > thanks for a nice email, > > > > > > > > > > On 28 January 2013 09:50, Hans-Christian Andersen > > <hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote: > > > >> Hi Mark, > >> > >> No, Haiku is meant to be binary compatible with BeOS, so it does not run > >> Linux binaries from the outset (but it is entirely possible, of course). > >> > >> Haiku is not a new OS. It has been around for a while actually. It's > been > >> around since the early 2000's. The history behind BeOS was that it was a > >> new operating system that was designed to be heavily multi-core and > >> multi-tasking (remember back in those days when the Pentium Pro machines > >> were actually capable of multiple processors?). The company, Be Inc., > was > >> trying to compete in a heavily Windows dominated market and they were > >> selling machines called BeBox's. > >> > >> Unfortunately, no one was interested in buying anything that wasn't > >> Microsoft at the time, so BeOS never had any traction in the industry, > >> despite being vastly superior (in every way conceivable) to Microsoft > >> Windows. > >> > >> When Apple was failing to produce an update to their operating system, > Mac > >> OS 9, BeOS was one of the two options Apple was considering as being the > >> next update to Apple OS. Unfortunately for Be Inc., Steve Jobs had > returned > >> to Apple and was pushing for NeXT, since this was his project prior to > >> (re)joining Apple. > >> > >> Apple decided to go with NeXT. BeOS's last ditch effort to stay alive > >> among the sharks (Microsoft) failed and the company folded in 2001. > >> > >> It's a shame. BeOS was an amazing operating system. It was far ahead of > >> everything out there from a technology point of view and it ran circles > >> around every other OS in terms of performance and stability at the time. > >> > >> Palm then acquired Be Inc and did bugger all with it (as usual), so the > >> Haiku team took it upon themselves to rewrite BeOS and they called it > >> Haiku. It's been in alpha forever because it is enough of a forgotten OS > >> that few people care, but enough care to spend time working on it with a > >> passion. > >> > >> Unfortunately, Haiku can only claim to be BeOS compatible. They had to > >> rewrite everything, so it isn't really the same OS underneath, but > they've > >> done an excellent job considering! > >> > >> R.I.P. BeOS. > >> > >> - Hans > >> > >> > >> On 2013-01-28, at 1:15 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Jim > >>> > >>> Do you think that Linux apps will install and run on Haiku? If not, > does > >>> it have future at all? > >>> > >>> I do admire the vision of anyone that attempts to start a new OS. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 28 January 2013 07:10, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > >>> > >>>> So here is something interesting...another OSS and it is not Linux > >>>> > >>>> It is called Haiku. Whether the OS, based on BeOS, will make it past > the > >>>> development stage is a question as they are still trying to put enough > >>>> funds > >>>> together to make the dream a reality. > >>>> > >>>> Below is their site: > >>>> https://www.haiku-os.org/ > >>>> > >>>> Here is a Wikipedia oversight: > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system) > >>>> > >>>> And a link to many images of the various product screens: > >> > http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&cp=8&gs_id= > >> > 4&xhr=t&q=Haiku+OS&biw=1174&bih=649&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&um=1&ie=UTF- > >>>> 8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=bSIGUaPJNpCUigLw7oHoDg > >>>> > >>>> And finally a article from a recent product convert: > >>>> http://blog.leahhanson.us/falling-for-haiku-os.html > >>>> > >>>> Jim > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> dba-Tech mailing list > >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> dba-Tech mailing list > >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dba-Tech mailing list > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr