John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Sun Feb 3 15:13:04 CST 2013
Not VirtualBox https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:04 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS operating system Is there a VM that runs BeOS? I tried it way back when and would like to try it again. A. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > You are correct. I do have some affection for it, in the sense that it > saddens me when technology with great potential that is technically > better than the competition dies prematurely because of market > realities. BeOS was fast and a really well designed OS. It didn't have > tons of legacy junk to complicate things and it was capable of proper > multitasking. There are YouTube videos out there that demonstrate just > how many system intensive things they were able to run concurrently > without the OS breaking a sweat or slowing/stuttering and all on the > modest technology we had back then (early pentiums etc). > > BeOS was a chance for us to have a clean break - a well thought out OS > that was designed to take proper advantage of the more modern hardware > and CPU architecture of the time. Instead, what we got were legacy > systems that were slowly brought up to modern standard (and, even > then, not completely) by means of plugging and patching. And, as a > software developer, that makes me sad. > > - Hans > > > On 2013-01-31, at 1:03 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello Hans-Christian, > > > > I can see that you had some affection for BeOS, > > > > thanks for a nice email, > > > > > > > > > > On 28 January 2013 09:50, Hans-Christian Andersen > > <hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote: > > > >> Hi Mark, > >> > >> No, Haiku is meant to be binary compatible with BeOS, so it does > >> not run Linux binaries from the outset (but it is entirely possible, of course). > >> > >> Haiku is not a new OS. It has been around for a while actually. > >> It's > been > >> around since the early 2000's. The history behind BeOS was that it > >> was a new operating system that was designed to be heavily > >> multi-core and multi-tasking (remember back in those days when the > >> Pentium Pro machines were actually capable of multiple > >> processors?). The company, Be Inc., > was > >> trying to compete in a heavily Windows dominated market and they > >> were selling machines called BeBox's. > >> > >> Unfortunately, no one was interested in buying anything that wasn't > >> Microsoft at the time, so BeOS never had any traction in the > >> industry, despite being vastly superior (in every way conceivable) > >> to Microsoft Windows. > >> > >> When Apple was failing to produce an update to their operating > >> system, > Mac > >> OS 9, BeOS was one of the two options Apple was considering as > >> being the next update to Apple OS. Unfortunately for Be Inc., Steve > >> Jobs had > returned > >> to Apple and was pushing for NeXT, since this was his project prior > >> to (re)joining Apple. > >> > >> Apple decided to go with NeXT. BeOS's last ditch effort to stay > >> alive among the sharks (Microsoft) failed and the company folded in 2001. > >> > >> It's a shame. BeOS was an amazing operating system. It was far > >> ahead of everything out there from a technology point of view and > >> it ran circles around every other OS in terms of performance and stability at the time. > >> > >> Palm then acquired Be Inc and did bugger all with it (as usual), so > >> the Haiku team took it upon themselves to rewrite BeOS and they > >> called it Haiku. It's been in alpha forever because it is enough of > >> a forgotten OS that few people care, but enough care to spend time > >> working on it with a passion. > >> > >> Unfortunately, Haiku can only claim to be BeOS compatible. They had > >> to rewrite everything, so it isn't really the same OS underneath, > >> but > they've > >> done an excellent job considering! > >> > >> R.I.P. BeOS. > >> > >> - Hans > >> > >> > >> On 2013-01-28, at 1:15 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Jim > >>> > >>> Do you think that Linux apps will install and run on Haiku? If > >>> not, > does > >>> it have future at all? > >>> > >>> I do admire the vision of anyone that attempts to start a new OS. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 28 January 2013 07:10, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > >>> > >>>> So here is something interesting...another OSS and it is not > >>>> Linux > >>>> > >>>> It is called Haiku. Whether the OS, based on BeOS, will make it > >>>> past > the > >>>> development stage is a question as they are still trying to put > >>>> enough funds together to make the dream a reality. > >>>> > >>>> Below is their site: > >>>> https://www.haiku-os.org/ > >>>> > >>>> Here is a Wikipedia oversight: > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system) > >>>> > >>>> And a link to many images of the various product screens: > >> > http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&cp=8& > gs_id= > >> > 4&xhr=t&q=Haiku+OS&biw=1174&bih=649&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&um=1&i > e=UTF- > >>>> 8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=bSIGUaPJNpCUigLw7oHoDg > >>>> > >>>> And finally a article from a recent product convert: > >>>> http://blog.leahhanson.us/falling-for-haiku-os.html > >>>> > >>>> Jim > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> dba-Tech mailing list > >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> dba-Tech mailing list > >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dba-Tech mailing list > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com