[dba-Tech] Plumbers are more essential than web developers, even though they're less valued?

 HI Jim --

Yes, I do like programming but that's is mainly for living - very few time for coding experiments here...

If I have had a chance I'd had spend these days more time in gardening, house building (including plumbing :)), visiting theaters, travelling etc. :)

-- Shamil

Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:30 PM -07:00 from "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Yeah, but you are still a youngster and the market will always need good
>coders. I have a couple of friends who are still coding every day and are as
>old as I am. ;-)
>
>Jim
>
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>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov
>Shamil
>Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:42 PM
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>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Plumbers are more essential than web developers,
>even though they're less valued?
>
> Hi Jim --
>
>Yes, I did check the comments. I have seen the stats somewhere - all the
>modern industries are for "kids" (12+ - 25) and young people - 20-40...
>
>I'm in programming/databases not from the "first wave" times - I'm from the
> "New Wave"  (  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_wave_music ) times :)
>
>-- Shamil
>
>Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:30 AM -07:00 from "Jim Lawrence"
>< accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>I love it. Did you check out the attached comments some are equally as
>>insightful.
>>
>>Many years ago, (1987) I quit a good career in the government, to start up
>>my own computer company and made more in a couple years than I had in the
>>previous 15 to 17 years...then the dot com bust. 
>>
>>Web designing is for kids less the forty and more so less than thirty but
>>that is where the money is.
>>
>>You, I and most of the group here are from the first wave (boom) and a few
>>are from the second wave. Some made the transition (or had/have to) from
>the
>>first wave to the second but many did/will not.
>>
>>Jim
>> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov
>>Shamil
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:21 AM
>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Softw
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Plumbers are more essential than web developers, even
>>though they're less valued?
>>
>>
>>Hi All --
>>
>>The author of the referenced below article is IMO a talented young (essay)
>>writer but he had to become a "mediocre web developer" to make his living:
>>
>>" In today's world, web developers have it all: money, perks, freedom,
>>respect. But is there value in what we do?"
>> http://www.aeonmagazine.com/living-together/james-somers-web-developer-mone
>y
>>/
>>:)
>>
>>--  Салахетдинов Шамиль