[dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript?

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Wed Mar 20 13:23:58 CDT 2013


Unfortunately, there is no desktop version of Viber. :(

And it doesn't include video calls, afaik.

Not quite the complete Skype replacement (not to mention screen sharing!).

- Hans


On 2013-03-20, at 10:22 AM, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

> Not a Skype replacement but a nice smart phone app - Viber - My son and his
> girlfriend are using it while they're on the road.  Free calls anywhere in
> the world.  
> 
> Got a call from him last night about 11pm - they're un Lukla in Nepal about
> to start a two week trek to Everest base camp.  Thought we wouldn't hear
> from them once they left Kathmandu but he says there may even be some wi-fi
> along the way.  Quite different than when I was there 40 years ago.
> 
> R
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:25 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript?
> 
> Hi Shamil:
> 
> So which products would you suggest would be a good alternative to Skype?
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov
> Shamil
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:50 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript?
> 
> Hi Jim --
> 
> <<<
> Both are becoming more untrustworthy but the day.
> Yes.
> 
> <<<
> I understand it is a big problem in Russia. 
> Well, one there might suppose that everything is a big problem here :) I
> assure you - it's not - quite a few but not everything:) BTW, quite some
> foreigners are working and are living here in Russia.
> 
> Easy solution for the 'Skype case': Just ignore it - there are many other
> communication tools free from 'KGB eye and ear'. :)
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
> Вторник, 19 марта 2013, 19:12 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>> Hi Shamil:
>> 
>> An aside: I have always been a little apprehensive of either 
>> Microsoft's or Google's commitment to any type of programming 
>> environment as they may pull support at a moments notice for any number of
> reasons.
>> 
>> <rant on>
>> They sometimes just create an application for training purposes of 
>> their staff, or because of some GPL licensing agreement, or to muddy 
>> the waters
> of
>> another competitor, or on some wild prospecting adventure. Then they 
>> may just pull or drop the program as it may be challenging their 
>> high-end products, or they loose interest, or a application no longer 
>> fits their new model.
>> 
>> That is why, no matter how interested I am in any application that 
>> either make; I always find myself looking for a quick exit if or when 
>> they bale, yet again.
>> 
>> Didn't Microsoft just announce they are removing messenger capabilities
> from
>> Skype, I guess to many were using it instead of their other Messenger. 
>> Then they are dropping Windows 8 support from their phones, just like 
>> Silverlight. Google has just dropped Google Docs and RSS feeds for 
>> anyone but their paying customers...Most of Google translation 
>> functionality has gone. Google has been making great strides designing 
>> on top of open GPL products and now is trying apply charges to their
> efforts.
>> 
>> Then Microsoft has been censured because they have left an backdoor 
>> into their Skype that any government can use...I understand it is a big 
>> problem in Russia. Then the ECM is threatening to out right ban 
>> Google's Glass project unless they will absolutely guarantee privacy for
> the users.
>> 
>> Both are becoming more untrustworthy but the day.
>> <rant off>
>> 
>> It is now so hard to know which way to go in product development.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Salakhetdinov Shamil
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:17 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript?
>> 
>>  Hi Jim --
>> 
>> Thank you for your link.
>> 
>> Concerning your question: "No, I haven't worked with DART."
>> 
>> Quick googling gives:
>> 
>> Douglas Crockford, when asked about Dart during his Programming Style 
>> and Your Brain lecture, replied: "So, I've thought for a long time ... 
>> if I could take a clean sheet of paper and write [a new language] that 
>> retains all the goodness of [Javascript] ... I would not have come up 
>> with anything like Dart."  (Source:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dart_ (programming_language ) ) Resume: if 
>> not pure JavaScript (with jQuery etc.) then go TypeScript ( 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript ) not DART. :)
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> -- Shamil
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