[dba-Tech] The latest Debian

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Sun May 12 03:32:50 CDT 2013


The words of a man who just realised he's possibly in big trouble :p

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


On 12 May 2013, at 00:01, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> But did you read all the text of the article Hans referenced? 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
> Суббота, 11 мая 2013, 15:15 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>> Hi Hans:
>> 
>> The comments from an insider. Nothing that everyone could not all ready see
>> but now a confirmation. At one point the developers, left, will all have to
>> move on, unless the whole upper management of Microsoft can be convinced to
>> move on.
>> 
>> MS may have to be virtually wiped out before it can grow again.
>> 
>> Jim 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
>> Andersen
>> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:52 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The latest Debian
>> 
>> Fun fact: Debian, on its own (excluding Debian based OSs like Ubuntu), is
>> the most widely used operating system in the server market.
>> 
>> Here's another interested article with an admission from a Windows kernel
>> developer about why the Windows is slower and falling behind other operating
>> systems like Linux: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74
>> 
>> - Hans
>> 
>> 
>> On 2013-05-11, at 11:04 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> The latest Debian is here...Debian 7.
>>> 
>>> With this release, Google has removing its old OS and now is actively
>>> porting all it Cloud to Debian. Debian is now using the latest Linux
>> core(?)
>>> which allows it to run on most of the major hardware architectures, all 32
>>> and 64 bit Intel chips as well as on ARM, PowerPC, Itanium, IBM S/390 and
>> so
>>> on. 
>>> 
>>> Debian is not really a PC OS but a true server but it does come with a
>> nice
>>> little GUI (distro) called Xfce though most "real men and women" in the
>>> computer industry still prefer the command line interface. 
>>> 
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/08/debian_seven_review/
>>> 
>>> Of course you can still get all the reliability and functionality through
>>> the Ubuntu and Mint distros which do tend to use more of the leading edge
>>> (bleeding edge?) versions of Debian. Ubuntu, for example is really a full
>>> blown server with a pretty interface and if ever needed, this PC desktop
>>> could step up run the entire network, limited of course only by the
>>> hardware. (The latest Ubuntu version 13.04, has been described as very
>> fast
>>> but boring...if you are a support tech you need more boring.)
>>> 
>>> According to some developers Exchange mail server, at least version 2010
>> and
>>> less, can runs fine on Debian but the 2012 version still requires some
>>> tweaks. The new Samba server completely replaces Active-directory.
>> Finally,
>>> MS SQL 2012 runs and is fully compatible on Linux. 
>>> 
>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh568451.aspx
>>> 
>>> It looks like there is now less and less reasons to not migrate your
>> servers
>>> to Linux and Debian in particular. So why would you change if you have
>>> already have a Windows Server system?
>>> 
>>> Answer: First, Linux runs up to three times as fast, can support almost a
>>> dozen times more clients than a similar configured MS server version
>> (using
>>> the same hardware) and takes only a fifth of the space. Second, the
>>> innovation on the Linux platforms are years ahead compared to MS (Example:
>>> Debian uses, by default, a disk OS, that is faster (reading and writing),
>>> with built in duplication and is self-healing but of course you can always
>>> install the ZFS disk OS if you are planning a thousand server network).
>>> Third, Linux (Debian) is rock solid reliable; no blue screens or software
>>> crashes. Fourth, security on Linux servers have been the absolute best.
>>> Fifth, and perhaps the least important, the initial product costs are
>> zero,
>>> but of course, tech support fees (your fees) are just the same.    
>>> 
>>> So why are you still installing Windows servers? ;-)
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
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