[dba-Tech] The latest Debian

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Sun May 12 11:28:09 CDT 2013


Yes, although I haven't read all the comments. How about you? Did you read the whole article?

- Hans


On 2013-05-12, at 5:02 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:

> Hi Hans --
> 
> Not at all. But may I ask you did you read the whole article you have referred here?
> 
> Thank you.
> -- Shamil
> 
> Воскресенье, 12 мая 2013, 1:32 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>> The words of a man who just realised he's possibly in big trouble :p
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Hans-Christian Andersen
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 May 2013, at 00:01, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> But did you read all the text of the article Hans referenced? 
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> -- Shamil
>>> 
>>> Суббота, 11 мая 2013, 15:15 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>>>> Hi Hans:
>>>> 
>>>> The comments from an insider. Nothing that everyone could not all ready see
>>>> but now a confirmation. At one point the developers, left, will all have to
>>>> move on, unless the whole upper management of Microsoft can be convinced to
>>>> move on.
>>>> 
>>>> MS may have to be virtually wiped out before it can grow again.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
>>>> Andersen
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:52 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The latest Debian
>>>> 
>>>> Fun fact: Debian, on its own (excluding Debian based OSs like Ubuntu), is
>>>> the most widely used operating system in the server market.
>>>> 
>>>> Here's another interested article with an admission from a Windows kernel
>>>> developer about why the Windows is slower and falling behind other
>> operating
>>>> systems like Linux: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74
>>>> 
>>>> - Hans
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013-05-11, at 11:04 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The latest Debian is here...Debian 7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With this release, Google has removing its old OS and now is actively
>>>>> porting all it Cloud to Debian. Debian is now using the latest Linux
>>>> core(?)
>>>>> which allows it to run on most of the major hardware architectures, all 32
>>>>> and 64 bit Intel chips as well as on ARM, PowerPC, Itanium, IBM S/390 and
>>>> so
>>>>> on. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Debian is not really a PC OS but a true server but it does come with a
>>>> nice
>>>>> little GUI (distro) called Xfce though most "real men and women" in the
>>>>> computer industry still prefer the command line interface. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/08/debian_seven_review/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course you can still get all the reliability and functionality through
>>>>> the Ubuntu and Mint distros which do tend to use more of the leading edge
>>>>> (bleeding edge?) versions of Debian. Ubuntu, for example is really a full
>>>>> blown server with a pretty interface and if ever needed, this PC desktop
>>>>> could step up run the entire network, limited of course only by the
>>>>> hardware. (The latest Ubuntu version 13.04, has been described as very
>>>> fast
>>>>> but boring...if you are a support tech you need more boring.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> According to some developers Exchange mail server, at least version 2010
>>>> and
>>>>> less, can runs fine on Debian but the 2012 version still requires some
>>>>> tweaks. The new Samba server completely replaces Active-directory.
>>>> Finally,
>>>>> MS SQL 2012 runs and is fully compatible on Linux. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh568451.aspx
>>>>> 
>>>>> It looks like there is now less and less reasons to not migrate your
>>>> servers
>>>>> to Linux and Debian in particular. So why would you change if you have
>>>>> already have a Windows Server system?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Answer: First, Linux runs up to three times as fast, can support almost a
>>>>> dozen times more clients than a similar configured MS server version
>>>> (using
>>>>> the same hardware) and takes only a fifth of the space. Second, the
>>>>> innovation on the Linux platforms are years ahead compared to MS (Example:
>>>>> Debian uses, by default, a disk OS, that is faster (reading and writing),
>>>>> with built in duplication and is self-healing but of course you can always
>>>>> install the ZFS disk OS if you are planning a thousand server network).
>>>>> Third, Linux (Debian) is rock solid reliable; no blue screens or software
>>>>> crashes. Fourth, security on Linux servers have been the absolute best.
>>>>> Fifth, and perhaps the least important, the initial product costs are
>>>> zero,
>>>>> but of course, tech support fees (your fees) are just the same.    
>>>>> 
>>>>> So why are you still installing Windows servers? ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
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