[dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux kernel)

Arthur Fuller fuller.artful at gmail.com
Wed May 22 18:02:00 CDT 2013


Thanks for the link, Jim. By the way, I assume that you know the original
meaning of OSS (hint: WWII). Interesting abbreviation for these tempestuous
times.

A.


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Thanks for the info and observations. I actually like a laptop as I have
> to,
> from time to time, move my entire office to a client site.
>
> I just heard a podcast on something that may interest you as you are using
> virtual drives.
>
> Linux and Apple run onto of a multi-tasking and multi-user system and these
> systems have a feature called (FreeBSD) Linux Containers. Using a Linux
> container is not like a VMS but a sandboxed region in which another OS can
> reside. One computer can host dozens (hundreds) of such apparently isolated
> images. This method is used with many Cloud based hosting companies as
> there
> is limited resources required and the speed of deployment is far faster.
>
> The downside is that manual initialization and deployment is not a task for
> a casual Linux users. Enter a product called Docker, which according to the
> documentation, makes the whole process of deploying and managing Linux
> containers, easy.
>
> Check out the following link and think download and try out the package:
>
> http://www.docker.io/
>
> You will also be able to view a lot more explanation, documentation and a
> video or two. The product is OSS.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:30 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux kernel)
>
> I agree with you, Jim. If one plans to run multiple OSes using any sort of
> VM setup, the more RAM the better. I have seen some pretty cheap laptops
> here that come with 6GB, and that's just for starters. 8GB would be a lot
> better for this sort of thing.
>
> As for me, I no longer see much point in laptops, primarily because almost
> everything I do is from home. I can pick up re-furbished desktop machines
> from my local vendor for $50-$150, and a KVM to connect them all to a
> single keyboard, monitor and mouse, then just flick a switch to determine
> which box I want to talk to. I have a friend who has taken this concept
> much further than I. He has a couple of Windows boxes (XP and 7), and about
> 4 Linux boxes (Ubuntu, Mint, RedHat server and something else). They all
> run as fast as their hardware will allow.
>
> He and I agree that this approach far surpasses any VM approach; but of
> course it is not portable. For portability, I would say the minimal setup
> is a laptop with at least 6 GB of RAM, and preferably 8 GB. Given that sort
> of hardware, the next decision becomes "host boot". Should the host be
> Linux or Windows? My choice would be Linux as the host boot, and various
> versions of Windows running inside VirtualBox. That setup would allow
> visits to clients, loading the appropriate VM on-site, doing what is needed
> and then closing that VM, so when the work is done, you're back to your
> comfort zone of Ubuntu or Mint or RedHat. The advantage of that approach is
> that the Linux footprint is way smaller than any given version of Windows.
>
> But as I said, portable hardware systems are not my problem. Should it
> arise, I can pick up a refurbished laptop for about $350.
>
> A.
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi Shamil:
> >
> > I would be looking at a bigger beast with greater capabilities for
> running
> > multiple OSs.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Salakhetdinov
> > Shamil
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:29 AM
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux kernel)
> >
> >  Hi Jim --
> >
> > > I will be looking for better hardware soon.
> > That  link could be helpful I suppose:
> > http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/20/welcome-to-laptop-week/
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > -- Shamil
> >
> > Среда, 15 мая 2013, 14:57 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
> > >Hi Shamil:
> > >
> > >Impressive to say the least. I will be looking for better hardware soon.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Salakhetdinov
> > >Shamil
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:56 PM
> > >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Hyper-V 2012 (was: Latest Linux
> kernel)
> > >
> > > Hi Jim --
> > >
> > >Actually I can run  simultaneously  only four VMs totaling 8GB of RAM +
> > >hosting Win8 Prof system with several Visual Studio instances and some
> > other
> > >software: "bottle-neck" is RAM, CPU usage is usually less than 25%. I
> > >haven't used dynamic memory allocation per VM in VMs settings - I have
> > just
> > >allocated fixed amount of RAM at start-up for each VM as I rarely need
> > more
> > >than four VMs active and more than two VMs loaded with real processing
> > work.
> > >Having allocated fixed memory at VM start-up should make  VMs running
> > >quicker I expect...
> > >
> > >Yes, all that software runs on ASUS N76Vz laptop: i7/12GB RAM, 256GB SSD
> > > system disk and 1TB "archive"/VHDs hosting HDD.
> > >
> > >Thank you.
> > >
> > >-- Shamil
> >
> > <<< skipped >>>
> > >
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