[dba-Tech] Windows 8.1's user-hostile backup?

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Sep 19 10:18:38 CDT 2013


Hi Shamil:

Now that is very interesting. 

It is a little different in that it creates a backup VHD, using the shadow copy. I have been using DriveImageXML in a similar method, for years, but it can be very slow on large drives. If Disk2vhd can backup quicker and individual files or directories can be easily queries from the result, this product would be a worthy replacement to DIX.

The only other item that would be important is if, in the event a hard drive failure, the backup VHD then could be used to build a new drive that would boot without a great deal of preparation.
 
Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:31:09 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8.1's user-hostile backup?

 Hi Jim --

I have used Disk2VHD ( http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx ) to backup/virtualize all kinds of MS Windows systems including Win8, and it worked well for me.
Carefully read all notes (in italics) on referred above web page.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:12 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Through overnight processes, at a couple of client sites, all the data is backed up to the main server and attached backup...I am working on a bitTorrent sync solution for offsite backup but that has not been finished yet. (It will stream backup any size of file.)
>
>To do station data backups, I first run a simple xcopy backup scenario but if that fails, if the client left the application running and the data is not accessible that is where the ShadowCopy application comes in. ( http://www.runtime.org/shadow-copy.htm ) Most windows systems have the shadow-copy feature turned on by default but it should be turned off on your application server drive.
>
>@echo off
>c:
>cd \Program Files\Runtime Software\ShadowCopy
>shadowcopy q:\*.* s:\serverbackups\backupstation1 /y > nul
>exit
>
>There is a little more to it than that but you should be able to test it out.
>
>Jim 
>
> 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John R Bartow" < jbartow at winhaven.net >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:21:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8.1's user-hostile backup?
>
>What is your implementation plan with shadow copy?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:24 AM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8.1's user-hostile backup?
>
>Yes, but are those system even barely adequate? 
>
>I have used the registry roll back, system restore...it has saved me a
>number of times. ShadowCopy is my current backup file favorite.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jon Tydda" < jon at tydda.plus.com >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
>< dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:58:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8.1's user-hostile backup?
>
>Has any version of Windows had an adequate backup system? From discussions
>on here and OT, it seems that all people do is use Robocopy or Xcopy scripts
>to do it for them. I know that's all I do!
>
>
>Jon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>Sent: 18 September 2013 04:43
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 8.1's user-hostile backup?
>
>According to the following article Windows 8.1 has no adequate backup
>system.
>
>http://www.edandersen.com/2013/09/15/windows-8-1s-user-hostile-backup-story/
>
>Is this true? Could some of the local Windows8 experts give some insight
>into these issues?
>
>Jim 
>
>


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Салахетдинов Шамиль
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