From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 04:52:04 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 05:52:04 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1id_LUNCAuDwDmyOM=a8q6qf2162tiL48bNt3_J9vWmWA@mail.gmail.com>

At long last, I think that technology has finally outrun my storage
requirements. And this is a Wonderful Thing.

As a semi-retired guy, occasionally called upon by old clients and the rare
instance of a new client, to store instances of their databases.

Recently I bought a Blu-ray burner (for the astonishingly low price of
$69.99) and promptly backed up everything to a series of six discs. That
includes the databases for several clients, plus all my documents, apps and
music. So now I have the following setup:

laptop with 1TB hard disk
USB 3.0 external 1TB hard disk
USB 2.0 external 500 MB hard disk
various thumb drives ranging from 4GB to 64GB

Lots of this is redundant: same files stored in various places, just in
case something fails. Scheduled jobs to synchronize the copies. I've lost
valuable stuff in the past, but now feel quite comfortable that even in the
worst events, my ass is covered.

I fondly recall the first hard disc I ever saw. My friend Ben had an Apple
Lisa and purchased a 5MB hard disk for about $2500, and all of us (who
owned mere floppy discs) were sick with envy. Times have changed.

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 11:05:31 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:05:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
In-Reply-To: <1391205216.955468146@f312.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <699298330.139214168.1391274331983.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

A very interesting character, Martin Fowler... Since you brought up his name I have been researching him and his writings have been very leading edge...a very brilliant light in the evolving world of computer technology.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:53:36 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends

 Hi Jim --

This one is from/directed by Martin Fowler.

It should be a reliable source.
Of course nobody has a crystal ball...

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:45 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi All:
>
>A new webservice tries to answer those question by using technology. Can we assume this will also not only show the trends but predict the future direction, growth and the products that will drive our technology?
>
>http://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/#/
>
>Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 11:11:28 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:11:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another universal Mobile phone builder
In-Reply-To: <1391205308.66721997@f312.i.mail.ru>
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Hi Shamil:

I have been missing a piece also. The price of touch scenes has come down in price dramatically and I am looking forward to acquiring one. The next laptop I get will have a touch screen for sure but I would also like a PC with one as well. 

It then would be a lot easier doing developing on other mobile devices...when trying to get the gestures right.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:55:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another universal Mobile phone builder

 Hi Jim --

That was a missing part in my set of tools to try to get learned through within this year.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:48 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi All:
>
>Apache Cordova is a set of device APIs that allow a mobile app developer to access native device function such as the camera or accelerometer from JavaScript. Combined with a UI framework such as jQuery Mobile or Dojo Mobile or Sencha Touch, this allows a smartphone app to be developed with just HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.
>
>http://cordova.apache.org
>
>Interesting.
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 11:12:54 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:12:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Build the world
In-Reply-To: <1391205430.343542916@f152.i.mail.ru>
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Hi Shamil:

Does your son and friend host their own Mindcraft server?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:57:10 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Build the world

 Hi Jim --

Thank you, I have got the link forwarded to my son and his friends - they used to play Minecraft and even to develop some Javascript plug-ins for it.?

-- Shamil

Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:37 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi All:
>
>There was and still is a lot of interest in Mindcraft. Installing the package on one of your servers and inviting a few friends online to help build a ever expanding world is a fun activity for the younger tech crowd. 
>
>https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server-on-linux
>
>Aside: Word to the wise; never install the package if it is not within a virtual drive as there are some Java bugs which could allow some savvy hackers to break into your computer...not to worry but just a note of concern.
>
>Google, not be out done have added there own version to the mix. This time, instead of SGA graphics you get to use lego blocks and instead of a mythical world you get to build anywhere in the real world from anywhere in the world.
>
>http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/28/5354256/google-lego-tool-chrome
>
>Jim 
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 11:29:08 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 12:29:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
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Jim and Shamil,

I've been long aware of Martin and have read almost everything. I may be
behind a book or a magazine article or two, but regard him as one of the
leading lights in this business.

Arthur


On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Shamil:
>
> A very interesting character, Martin Fowler... Since you brought up his
> name I have been researching him and his writings have been very leading
> edge...a very brilliant light in the evolving world of computer technology.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:53:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
>
>  Hi Jim --
>
> This one is from/directed by Martin Fowler.
>
> It should be a reliable source.
> Of course nobody has a crystal ball...
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:45 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <
> accessd at shaw.ca>:
> >Hi All:
> >
> >A new webservice tries to answer those question by using technology. Can
> we assume this will also not only show the trends but predict the future
> direction, growth and the products that will drive our technology?
> >
> >http://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/#/
> >
> >Jim
> >_______________________________________________
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> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 11:43:55 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:43:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
In-Reply-To: <1391206929.536646930@f152.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1077974059.139242543.1391276635341.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

Very interesting. 

In the 70 to 80, I was blissfully unaware of distributive database systems...though this technology was growing rapidly, especially within universities, much of the local focus was on the migration from Minis and Mainframes and surge towards desktop PCs and NT servers. Personally, much of my work, at the time, was focused on old Unix (SCO), Informix, Sybase and subsequently MS SQL, VB and Access. 

Being completely focused on Microsoft contracts, at the time, did not give me an opportunity to become versed in other developments. To say the least, the last ten years have been a real eye-opener. Microsoft is no longer "the company" but just another company...this is not a criticism but a reality check. So now, I am seeing this staggeringly huge smorgasbord of products for every situation...Choices are becoming more difficult...Sometimes I feel like a starving man let loose in a grocery store and I want to take a bite of everything. ;-)

Jim      

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:22:09 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

 Hi Jim --

Actually, AFAIKR, the heated debate that time was about 

- hierarchical vs. network (CODASYL) databases (70-ies last century) and then 
- network (CODASYL) vs. relational databases (80-ies last century). 

And ISAM/VSAM (and even BDAM) were a "parallel" theme - file access methods to use to implement RDMBSes physical layers.
There were a lot of research on distributed databases also in 80-ies as well as on parallel/multi-threaded programming.
AFAIU Oracle got a lot from DB2 and other relational DB research projects of 80-ies.

Nowadays NoSQL "movement" for Big Data manipulation is looking as "another circle of evolution spiral" (back to hierarchical/network databases) - so one can expect that relational databases will get back in even "bigger that nowadays Big Data Manipulation real business" in 30 years or less on another higher level of never ending evolution spiral...

As for Flow-Based Programming - IMO that is a "birds view" or tip of iceberg of what an experienced modern programmer has(/is able) to do by hands. And the gap between what can be done by using Flow-Based Programming (Automation) and by hands will only grow with time. Just my opinion based on my own experience. I can be wrong.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:31 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I remember around the time Borland was totting their new product, which at the time I thought was impossible, by the way, there was a heated debate about whether ISAM and indexed flat-based files were going to be replaced by Oracle's new SQL server. We all now know what happened.
>
>Products will live and die as the capabilities, needs and understand grows. Whether it is the right time for Flow-Based Programming the market will tell but the concept is not going away. The only thing that is giving me some hope that there actually be a working version, at the end of the design phase, is the very strong team of developers, working on the project.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 2:58:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>?Hi Jim et All --
>
>I'm sorry to be rather skeptical on all that "new way" visual "logic drawing-driven" "rapid application development" tools - have a look:
>
>"by CBR Staff Writer| 12 February 1991
>... In another age the product might have been described as an expert system, but the buzz word now is Object and the product offers visual programming techniques to enable users to stipulate objects and processes via drawings..."  http://www.cbronline.com/news/borland_objectvision_makes_writing_windows_programs_easy
>
>Do you remember it - Borland Object Vision? I do.
>
>And before that around year 1981 last century there was?
>
>"Application Development Without Programmers"
>James Martin (Author)  http://www.amazon.com/Application-Development-Without-Programmers-Martin/dp/0130389439
>
>Did you read it? I did. And I did read it on that ancient now times. It was exciting reading... that time.
>
>And the "Application Development Without Programmers" was published a few years *after* this well known book:
>
>"The Mythical Man-Month" by Fred Brooks
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month
>
>Did you read it? I did. And I did read it nearly the same time as I did read the?"Application Development Without Programmers" book somewhere in the beginning of 80-ies of last century. (NB: that were ex-USSR times here, mainstream/bestselling there on "wild West" books were available here, but sometimes with considerable delay.)
>
>And somewhere in the beginning of 90-ies there was the "The Computer Revolution in Software System Development"?(  http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Computer_Revolution/Software/System_Development ) - all kinds of software design case systems: does anybody of you using something like that in your everyday software development work?
>
>----
>Resume: there exists "something"?elusive, subtle, intangible, imponderable, evasive, vague, volatile, subtle, inappreciable, impalpable - sorry for my English - select any word, which you suppose is better highlighting "never ending, durable software development crisis" issue.. there exists something, which will always make the "new ways of programming" getting obsolete rather quick. And this "something" is "Governing in details" (  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_in_the_detail ), which will always require 80% of software projects development time to be spent on to keep competing in this accelerating world...
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:59 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi All:
>>
>>For all you developers out there a new way of programming. Check out NoFlo another application that has reached (and surpassed) it financial goal and now is in full development on Kickstarter...another startup program out of San-Francisco.
>>
>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noflo/noflo-development-environment?ref=category
>>
>>Check this out and what do you think?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>PS It is OSS 
>>_______________________________________________
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 11:46:23 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:46:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gSn5VBZmgL7nmsT2AbkxeRgcN2og=qEJuxtNKM705KHg@mail.gmail.com>
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:-) Jim

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From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:07:18 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends

Tell us how you really feel, Stuart.


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:

>  Hi Jim --
>
> This one is from/directed by Martin Fowler.
>
> It should be a reliable source.
> Of course nobody has a crystal ball...
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:45 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <
> accessd at shaw.ca>:
> >Hi All:
> >
> >A new webservice tries to answer those question by using technology. Can
> we assume this will also not only show the trends but predict the future
> direction, growth and the products that will drive our technology?
> >
> >http://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/#/
> >
> >Jim
> >_______________________________________________
> >dba-Tech mailing list
> >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 11:58:40 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:58:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1id_LUNCAuDwDmyOM=a8q6qf2162tiL48bNt3_J9vWmWA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Arthur:

You can also get inexpensive portable backup drives. Just lucked out and acquired a 2TB laptop type external for $89....on this 3.5 inch drive you could archive twenty years data.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 2:52:04 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space

At long last, I think that technology has finally outrun my storage
requirements. And this is a Wonderful Thing.

As a semi-retired guy, occasionally called upon by old clients and the rare
instance of a new client, to store instances of their databases.

Recently I bought a Blu-ray burner (for the astonishingly low price of
$69.99) and promptly backed up everything to a series of six discs. That
includes the databases for several clients, plus all my documents, apps and
music. So now I have the following setup:

laptop with 1TB hard disk
USB 3.0 external 1TB hard disk
USB 2.0 external 500 MB hard disk
various thumb drives ranging from 4GB to 64GB

Lots of this is redundant: same files stored in various places, just in
case something fails. Scheduled jobs to synchronize the copies. I've lost
valuable stuff in the past, but now feel quite comfortable that even in the
worst events, my ass is covered.

I fondly recall the first hard disc I ever saw. My friend Ben had an Apple
Lisa and purchased a 5MB hard disk for about $2500, and all of us (who
owned mere floppy discs) were sick with envy. Times have changed.

-- 
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 12:03:30 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 11:03:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hkn-=fky6+zVDQ_j63QMNNFoa4CHBDZK_dCo4CRTD1Sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482611119.139255834.1391277810722.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

Is Martin Fowler the "Edgar Codd" of NOSQL and all the associated technologies?

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 9:29:08 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends

Jim and Shamil,

I've been long aware of Martin and have read almost everything. I may be
behind a book or a magazine article or two, but regard him as one of the
leading lights in this business.

Arthur


On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Shamil:
>
> A very interesting character, Martin Fowler... Since you brought up his
> name I have been researching him and his writings have been very leading
> edge...a very brilliant light in the evolving world of computer technology.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:53:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
>
>  Hi Jim --
>
> This one is from/directed by Martin Fowler.
>
> It should be a reliable source.
> Of course nobody has a crystal ball...
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:45 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <
> accessd at shaw.ca>:
> >Hi All:
> >
> >A new webservice tries to answer those question by using technology. Can
> we assume this will also not only show the trends but predict the future
> direction, growth and the products that will drive our technology?
> >
> >http://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/#/
> >
> >Jim
> >_______________________________________________
> >dba-Tech mailing list
> >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb  1 12:06:05 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 22:06:05 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?A_new_graphic_program_builder?=
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Message-ID: <1391277965.749257277@f388.i.mail.ru>

 Arthur --

I haven't "dismissed flow-based programming" - I have just noted that it, in my experience, was always behind the actual needs of real life (business) programming. It's in some approximation like "MS Access with macros" but without VBA. Would such a lightweight development tool be sufficient for your software development business?

-- Shamil

Friday, January 31, 2014 7:16 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Shamil,
>
>I think that you dismiss flow-based-programming too quickly. I do not
>dispute your contention that it's always good to know how to do it by hand.
>Bur when was the last time you built a chesterfield? I personally have
>never built one, but have refinished my beloved couch and chesterfield
>twice. This I know how to do. The set was made by Koehler in 1856 (I've
>researched this) and there's no way that I could emulate their skills. I
>content myself with re-upholstering it every few decades. I've owned this
>set of furniture since 1969 and plan never to replace it.
>
>Arthur
>
>
>On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >wrote:
>
>>  Hi Jim --
>>
>> Actually, AFAIKR, the heated debate that time was about
>>
>> - hierarchical vs. network (CODASYL) databases (70-ies last century) and
>> then
>> - network (CODASYL) vs. relational databases (80-ies last century).
>>
>> And ISAM/VSAM (and even BDAM) were a "parallel" theme - file access
>> methods to use to implement RDMBSes physical layers.
>> There were a lot of research on distributed databases also in 80-ies as
>> well as on parallel/multi-threaded programming.
>> AFAIU Oracle got a lot from DB2 and other relational DB research projects
>> of 80-ies.
>>
>> Nowadays NoSQL "movement" for Big Data manipulation is looking as "another
>> circle of evolution spiral" (back to hierarchical/network databases) - so
>> one can expect that relational databases will get back in even "bigger that
>> nowadays Big Data Manipulation real business" in 30 years or less on
>> another higher level of never ending evolution spiral...
>>
>> As for Flow-Based Programming - IMO that is a "birds view" or tip of
>> iceberg of what an experienced modern programmer has(/is able) to do by
>> hands. And the gap between what can be done by using Flow-Based Programming
>> (Automation) and by hands will only grow with time. Just my opinion based
>> on my own experience. I can be wrong.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>>

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb  1 12:16:48 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 22:16:48 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Build_the_world?=
In-Reply-To: <1089188287.139221535.1391274774141.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1391205430.343542916@f152.i.mail.ru>
	<1089188287.139221535.1391274774141.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1391278608.946376590@f249.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Yes, they host their own Minecraft servers. 12 years old kids. (And don't ask me how they do that. I don't know. :)) ?Right now they are playing via Internet via Hamachi (demo mode) connecting to the Minecraft server running on my son friend's PC.

-- Shamil

Saturday, February  1, 2014 10:12 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Does your son and friend host their own Mindcraft server?
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:57:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Build the world
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Thank you, I have got the link forwarded to my son and his friends - they used to play Minecraft and even to develop some Javascript plug-ins for it.?
>
>-- Shamil
>
>Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:37 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi All:
>>
>>There was and still is a lot of interest in Mindcraft. Installing the package on one of your servers and inviting a few friends online to help build a ever expanding world is a fun activity for the younger tech crowd. 
>>
>> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server-on-linux
>>
>>Aside: Word to the wise; never install the package if it is not within a virtual drive as there are some Java bugs which could allow some savvy hackers to break into your computer...not to worry but just a note of concern.
>>
>>Google, not be out done have added there own version to the mix. This time, instead of SGA graphics you get to use lego blocks and instead of a mythical world you get to build anywhere in the real world from anywhere in the world.
>>
>> http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/28/5354256/google-lego-tool-chrome
>>
>>Jim 
>


-- 
???????????? ??????

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 12:20:40 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:20:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another universal Mobile phone builder
In-Reply-To: <1842252900.139220413.1391274688018.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1391205308.66721997@f312.i.mail.ru>
	<1842252900.139220413.1391274688018.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i3ZYWvNZNYLCw9vQTLJ5uG8g1JytEdEZAEpokF9V3Zew@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

I seem to recall that my local vendor has such desktop touch-screens for
sale. As it happens, I have no need for one, but I think that they abound,
from dozens of vendors. Check with your local TigerDirect or similar
vendors.

Arthur


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb  1 12:26:36 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 22:26:36 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Technology_trends?=
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hkn-=fky6+zVDQ_j63QMNNFoa4CHBDZK_dCo4CRTD1Sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1391205216.955468146@f312.i.mail.ru>
	<699298330.139214168.1391274331983.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1hkn-=fky6+zVDQ_j63QMNNFoa4CHBDZK_dCo4CRTD1Sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1391279196.175114459@f249.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Arthur and Jim --

I do follow Martin Fowler publications for more than a decade now. I especially like the classics IT book her coauthored:

" Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code"

http://www.amazon.com/Refactoring-Improving-Design-Existing-Code/dp/0201485672

This is in my opinion one of the books serving as a foundation of the modern (Agile) software development tools and practices.

I have another his book " Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture " ( http://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Enterprise-Application-Architecture-Martin/dp/0321127420 ? http://www.martinfowler.com/books/eaa.html ), which I use sometimes as a reference ( http://martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/index.html )

And this ?link? http://martinfowler.com/design.html ?is currently constantly open in my one of my browser tabs.

-- Shamil

-- Shamil

Saturday, February  1, 2014 12:29 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Jim and Shamil,
>
>I've been long aware of Martin and have read almost everything. I may be
>behind a book or a magazine article or two, but regard him as one of the
>leading lights in this business.
>
>Arthur
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca > wrote:
>
>> Hi Shamil:
>>
>> A very interesting character, Martin Fowler... Since you brought up his
>> name I have been researching him and his writings have been very leading
>> edge...a very brilliant light in the evolving world of computer technology.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
>>  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:53:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
>>
>>  Hi Jim --
>>
>> This one is from/directed by Martin Fowler.
>>
>> It should be a reliable source.
>> Of course nobody has a crystal ball...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>> Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:45 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <
>>  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>> >Hi All:
>> >
>> >A new webservice tries to answer those question by using technology. Can
>> we assume this will also not only show the trends but predict the future
>> direction, growth and the products that will drive our technology?
>> >
>> > http://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/#/
>> >
>> >Jim
>


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 12:37:14 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:37:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space
In-Reply-To: <1596334011.139251692.1391277520262.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAEPJO1id_LUNCAuDwDmyOM=a8q6qf2162tiL48bNt3_J9vWmWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1596334011.139251692.1391277520262.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j0hR+mbSMxpH-e0oQbpVG+GuHc2R1O2CM1aV-euBFwUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Precisely my point, Jim. I'm a compulsive archiver and at long last, my
storage capacity has outrun my storage-ambitions. Hell, even excluding the
external USB 3.0 drives, I still have a TB on my laptop -- with more than
half of it free space! I have a 24" monitor attached and now my only desire
is to figure out how to attach another external monitor. Does anyone know,
is there a way to attach a second external monitor? With 8GB of RAM, I have
no problem running Ubuntu as well as Windows 8.1. An if that isn't enough,
the laptop runs utterly silently. Kewl.

The only other piece of hardware that I'm thinking of, which I saw recently
for about $130, is a USB turntable that enables you to play LPs and record
them to hard disk. I have a collection of about 6000 LP records and would
love to copy them to my newly acquired Blu-ray burner ($69), and then dump
them, except for a chosen few, one of which is Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss
America, an album I love so much that I have one unopened copy; I deem this
record a Canadian masterpiece and will hold onto it forever, and never open
it. (I also have the equivalent CD, but there's something special in owning
an unopened vinyl version.)

Arthur

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Sat Feb  1 12:42:31 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 12:42:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Latest update of MS SysInternal's Process Explorer adds
	interaction with VirusTotal.com
Message-ID: <018801cf1f7d$5db2dd90$191898b0$@winhaven.net>

Microsoft's Windows Sysinternal Suite has released the latest version of
Process Explorer v16.0 that has an awesome feature which allows a user to
scan any running program files with a web-based multi-antivirus scanner
VirusTotal.

Process Explorer sends the hashes of images and files shown in the process
and DLL views to VirusTotal, and if they have been previously scanned, it
reports how many antivirus engines identified them as possibly malicious.

This new version of 'Process Explorer' is better than ever before, and is
quite fast that allows you to find unwanted malware immediately and
respective hyper-linked result takes you to VirusTotal.com's detailed report
page and there you can even submit more files for scanning.

Whenever your system starts doing sluggish behavior, you try to find out
what all the processes are running and what their state is, or any deadlock
has occurred? 

Process Explorer shows information about handles and DLLs of running
processes. This tool has a powerful search capability that quickly shows you
which processes have particular handles opened or DLLs loaded.

The unique capabilities of Process Explorer make it useful for tracking down
DLL-version problems or handle leaks, and provide insight into the way
Windows and applications work.

Now you can use VirusTotal to scan the file of a running process on your
computer, and to do that you can right-click on the file and select 'Check
VirusTotal'.


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 12:47:28 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:47:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
In-Reply-To: <1391277965.749257277@f388.i.mail.ru>
References: <1390993124.662424202@f348.i.mail.ru>
	<1391206929.536646930@f152.i.mail.ru>
	<CAEPJO1hX0sT8MtkioYt+Q+AptQJczsn8HhVrNGy8psYpk-f7zw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1391277965.749257277@f388.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iK4TPy9t9xb6-ZV06fBkJXLj6qMO-xTQvCJw4r2xOn8w@mail.gmail.com>

Shamil,

Of course not. Heavy lifting is always required. The trick with these
graphic programming tools is this: do they get out of the way when heavy
lifting is required, or are we trapped in their paradigm?

I often draw an analogy to this situation when it comes to
team-programming. Large parts of almost any custom app can be executed by
novices. Small parts of almost everything worth being paid for require
skills. If you recall, several years ago I hired you to perform some small
bits of an app, for which you had the expertise and I did not. That
particular project involved 3 developers. A local junior programmer dealt
with form and report creation. I handled the middle bits, and hired you to
write the Windows API stuff that I didn't know how to do. It all went
together in a smooth deliverable, and an example of what I consider my
(excuse the reference to this weekend's Super Bowl) quarterbacking skills.
After all these years in this business, I know how to pass the ball, and to
whom to pass it, to get the job done.

Arthur


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 12:49:14 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:49:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Build the world
In-Reply-To: <1391278608.946376590@f249.i.mail.ru>
References: <1391205430.343542916@f152.i.mail.ru>
	<1089188287.139221535.1391274774141.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<1391278608.946376590@f249.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1htQiOR+QpCSDxSwUJ1U5Zy4+xOzP1Zf97udYx8sckJVQ@mail.gmail.com>

Shamil,

Hire your son! If not, maybe I will LOL. He sounds like a valuable resource.

Arthur


On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:

>  Hi Jim --
>
> Yes, they host their own Minecraft servers. 12 years old kids. (And don't
> ask me how they do that. I don't know. :))  Right now they are playing via
> Internet via Hamachi (demo mode) connecting to the Minecraft server running
> on my son friend's PC.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> Saturday, February  1, 2014 10:12 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <
> accessd at shaw.ca>:
> >Hi Shamil:
> >
> >Does your son and friend host their own Mindcraft server?
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
> >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
> >Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:57:10 PM
> >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Build the world
> >
> > Hi Jim --
> >
> >Thank you, I have got the link forwarded to my son and his friends - they
> used to play Minecraft and even to develop some Javascript plug-ins for it.
> >
> >-- Shamil
> >
> >Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:37 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <
> accessd at shaw.ca >:
> >>Hi All:
> >>
> >>There was and still is a lot of interest in Mindcraft. Installing the
> package on one of your servers and inviting a few friends online to help
> build a ever expanding world is a fun activity for the younger tech crowd.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server-on-linux
> >>
> >>Aside: Word to the wise; never install the package if it is not within a
> virtual drive as there are some Java bugs which could allow some savvy
> hackers to break into your computer...not to worry but just a note of
> concern.
> >>
> >>Google, not be out done have added there own version to the mix. This
> time, instead of SGA graphics you get to use lego blocks and instead of a
> mythical world you get to build anywhere in the real world from anywhere in
> the world.
> >>
> >> http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/28/5354256/google-lego-tool-chrome
> >>
> >>Jim
> >
>
>
> --
> ???????????? ??????
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Arthur

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 12:57:07 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:57:07 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
In-Reply-To: <1391279196.175114459@f249.i.mail.ru>
References: <1391205216.955468146@f312.i.mail.ru>
	<699298330.139214168.1391274331983.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1hkn-=fky6+zVDQ_j63QMNNFoa4CHBDZK_dCo4CRTD1Sw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1391279196.175114459@f249.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1isO-pjb9e9w4=UiOPf+0NMQ_x6MvrOBtDqhP288xd62g@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

I must be behind a book or two. I didn't know that Martin is now into the
NoSQL movement. I remember him from the Design Patterns stuff that Shamil
cited. Guess I have to catch up.

Arthur


From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Feb  1 14:03:03 2014
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 15:03:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j0hR+mbSMxpH-e0oQbpVG+GuHc2R1O2CM1aV-euBFwUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1id_LUNCAuDwDmyOM=a8q6qf2162tiL48bNt3_J9vWmWA@mail.gmail.com>	<1596334011.139251692.1391277520262.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1j0hR+mbSMxpH-e0oQbpVG+GuHc2R1O2CM1aV-euBFwUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52ED52F7.1040409@torchlake.com>

I used to really love my vinyl LPs, but that was when I was used to the 
scratchy sounds that happen and could disregard them.  Now, I am acutely 
aware of the noises because I am spoiled by my CDs.  Darn!  But, I still 
hold onto my precious LPs - can't offer a rational reason, but I don't 
want to let them go.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/1/2014 1:37 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Precisely my point, Jim. I'm a compulsive archiver and at long last, my
> storage capacity has outrun my storage-ambitions. Hell, even excluding the
> external USB 3.0 drives, I still have a TB on my laptop -- with more than
> half of it free space! I have a 24" monitor attached and now my only desire
> is to figure out how to attach another external monitor. Does anyone know,
> is there a way to attach a second external monitor? With 8GB of RAM, I have
> no problem running Ubuntu as well as Windows 8.1. An if that isn't enough,
> the laptop runs utterly silently. Kewl.
>
> The only other piece of hardware that I'm thinking of, which I saw recently
> for about $130, is a USB turntable that enables you to play LPs and record
> them to hard disk. I have a collection of about 6000 LP records and would
> love to copy them to my newly acquired Blu-ray burner ($69), and then dump
> them, except for a chosen few, one of which is Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss
> America, an album I love so much that I have one unopened copy; I deem this
> record a Canadian masterpiece and will hold onto it forever, and never open
> it. (I also have the equivalent CD, but there's something special in owning
> an unopened vinyl version.)
>
> Arthur
>


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 14:24:16 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 15:24:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space
In-Reply-To: <52ED52F7.1040409@torchlake.com>
References: <CAEPJO1id_LUNCAuDwDmyOM=a8q6qf2162tiL48bNt3_J9vWmWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1596334011.139251692.1391277520262.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1j0hR+mbSMxpH-e0oQbpVG+GuHc2R1O2CM1aV-euBFwUQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<52ED52F7.1040409@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gXpx52xwq2XANv5hEFhxj-e0D9LZ9HfzXytdcNuZ79pw@mail.gmail.com>

Tina,

The simple fact of the matter is that analog sound is way better than its
digital equivalent, and that is why I'm choosing to hold on to a few dozen
records among the remaining 6,000 or so. (I've already sold about 3,000 of
the original collection.)  Some of those I chose to keep are strictly
personal (a band called Syrinx, from Toronto, led by my good friend John
Mills Cockell, and the aforementioned Mary Margaret O'Hara's record Miss
America, all of whose band members are also friends of mine, including the
Piltch brothers, stalwart jazz musicians, Dave on bass and Rob on guitar),
and a couple of Lenny Breau records (I took guitar lessons from him for a
year or two), and Zakir Hussain and Swapan Chaudhuri (both tabla players
extraordinaire). Most of the rest I'm content to dump, but these few
treasures I shall hold onto forever. Oh yes, and the records by Shakti,
most notably the first one.

Arthur

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb  1 16:00:50 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 02:00:50 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Storage_Space?=
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j0hR+mbSMxpH-e0oQbpVG+GuHc2R1O2CM1aV-euBFwUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1id_LUNCAuDwDmyOM=a8q6qf2162tiL48bNt3_J9vWmWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1596334011.139251692.1391277520262.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1j0hR+mbSMxpH-e0oQbpVG+GuHc2R1O2CM1aV-euBFwUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1391292050.616668042@f324.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Arthur --

Do you use Blu-ray Writer with BDXL support - 100+GB per disk?
I'm looking to purchase one in the near future - which one should I select?
Here is the list form Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=BDXL%20External

This one seems to be the best - based on customers' reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Pawtec-External-Aluminum-Blu-Ray-Writer/dp/B00D53J5P0

But BD-R 100GB disks are still quite expensive, especially here.
So does it make sense to purchase a Blu-Ray Writer with BDXL support - wouldn't a Blu-Ray device with 25GB ?(50GB) disks support enough for now?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Saturday, February  1, 2014 1:37 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Precisely my point, Jim. I'm a compulsive archiver and at long last, my
>storage capacity has outrun my storage-ambitions. Hell, even excluding the
>external USB 3.0 drives, I still have a TB on my laptop -- with more than
>half of it free space! I have a 24" monitor attached and now my only desire
>is to figure out how to attach another external monitor. Does anyone know,
>is there a way to attach a second external monitor? With 8GB of RAM, I have
>no problem running Ubuntu as well as Windows 8.1. An if that isn't enough,
>the laptop runs utterly silently. Kewl.
>
>The only other piece of hardware that I'm thinking of, which I saw recently
>for about $130, is a USB turntable that enables you to play LPs and record
>them to hard disk. I have a collection of about 6000 LP records and would
>love to copy them to my newly acquired Blu-ray burner ($69), and then dump
>them, except for a chosen few, one of which is Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss
>America, an album I love so much that I have one unopened copy; I deem this
>record a Canadian masterpiece and will hold onto it forever, and never open
>it. (I also have the equivalent CD, but there's something special in owning
>an unopened vinyl version.)
>
>Arthur
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


-- 
???????????? ??????

From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Feb  1 16:01:05 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:01:05 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space
Message-ID: <s2ed7cc5.086@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Don't know what you mean with "equivalent". However, digital sound can easily be of a quality that equals or surpasses analogue sound (after all about 99.9% of all recordings today are digital) but, if you really plan to rip your fine long-play records with a $50 USB turntable, the result will, of course, neither be equivalent nor satisfying.

I have less than 1000 LPs but wouldn't know where to find the time for converting them, so I've kept my old Sony TTS-3000 belt-driven player:

   http://www.analogue-classics.com/html/sony_tts-3000.html

equipped with an Ortofon RS 212 pickup arm and studio pickup:

   http://www.ortofon.com/products/historical-products/rs-212-vintage-tonearm

A truly great combo.

/gustav


>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 01-02-14 21:24 >>>
Tina,

The simple fact of the matter is that analog sound is way better than its digital equivalent ..


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 23:17:21 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 22:17:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Build the world
In-Reply-To: <1391278608.946376590@f249.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <259613845.139594459.1391318241755.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

If I was their ages I would definitely love playing that game... Its requirements do not seem too complex:

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Setting_up_a_server

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:16:48 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Build the world

 Hi Jim --

Yes, they host their own Minecraft servers. 12 years old kids. (And don't ask me how they do that. I don't know. :)) ?Right now they are playing via Internet via Hamachi (demo mode) connecting to the Minecraft server running on my son friend's PC.

-- Shamil

Saturday, February  1, 2014 10:12 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Does your son and friend host their own Mindcraft server?
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:57:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Build the world
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Thank you, I have got the link forwarded to my son and his friends - they used to play Minecraft and even to develop some Javascript plug-ins for it.?
>
>-- Shamil
>
>Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:37 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi All:
>>
>>There was and still is a lot of interest in Mindcraft. Installing the package on one of your servers and inviting a few friends online to help build a ever expanding world is a fun activity for the younger tech crowd. 
>>
>> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server-on-linux
>>
>>Aside: Word to the wise; never install the package if it is not within a virtual drive as there are some Java bugs which could allow some savvy hackers to break into your computer...not to worry but just a note of concern.
>>
>>Google, not be out done have added there own version to the mix. This time, instead of SGA graphics you get to use lego blocks and instead of a mythical world you get to build anywhere in the real world from anywhere in the world.
>>
>> http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/28/5354256/google-lego-tool-chrome
>>
>>Jim 
>


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 23:19:21 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 22:19:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
In-Reply-To: <1391279196.175114459@f249.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1555467732.139595068.1391318361814.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

Thanks for the links...I check out the prices.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:26:36 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends

 Hi Arthur and Jim --

I do follow Martin Fowler publications for more than a decade now. I especially like the classics IT book her coauthored:

" Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code"

http://www.amazon.com/Refactoring-Improving-Design-Existing-Code/dp/0201485672

This is in my opinion one of the books serving as a foundation of the modern (Agile) software development tools and practices.

I have another his book " Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture " ( http://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Enterprise-Application-Architecture-Martin/dp/0321127420 ? http://www.martinfowler.com/books/eaa.html ), which I use sometimes as a reference ( http://martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/index.html )

And this ?link? http://martinfowler.com/design.html ?is currently constantly open in my one of my browser tabs.

-- Shamil

-- Shamil

Saturday, February  1, 2014 12:29 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Jim and Shamil,
>
>I've been long aware of Martin and have read almost everything. I may be
>behind a book or a magazine article or two, but regard him as one of the
>leading lights in this business.
>
>Arthur
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca > wrote:
>
>> Hi Shamil:
>>
>> A very interesting character, Martin Fowler... Since you brought up his
>> name I have been researching him and his writings have been very leading
>> edge...a very brilliant light in the evolving world of computer technology.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
>>  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:53:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
>>
>>  Hi Jim --
>>
>> This one is from/directed by Martin Fowler.
>>
>> It should be a reliable source.
>> Of course nobody has a crystal ball...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>> Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:45 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <
>>  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>> >Hi All:
>> >
>> >A new webservice tries to answer those question by using technology. Can
>> we assume this will also not only show the trends but predict the future
>> direction, growth and the products that will drive our technology?
>> >
>> > http://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/#/
>> >
>> >Jim
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 23:21:24 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 22:21:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
In-Reply-To: <1391277965.749257277@f388.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <737790717.139595525.1391318484969.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

Is that not similar to the current version of MS Access, from web Office365?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:06:05 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

 Arthur --

I haven't "dismissed flow-based programming" - I have just noted that it, in my experience, was always behind the actual needs of real life (business) programming. It's in some approximation like "MS Access with macros" but without VBA. Would such a lightweight development tool be sufficient for your software development business?

-- Shamil

Friday, January 31, 2014 7:16 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Shamil,
>
>I think that you dismiss flow-based-programming too quickly. I do not
>dispute your contention that it's always good to know how to do it by hand.
>Bur when was the last time you built a chesterfield? I personally have
>never built one, but have refinished my beloved couch and chesterfield
>twice. This I know how to do. The set was made by Koehler in 1856 (I've
>researched this) and there's no way that I could emulate their skills. I
>content myself with re-upholstering it every few decades. I've owned this
>set of furniture since 1969 and plan never to replace it.
>
>Arthur
>
>
>On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >wrote:
>
>>  Hi Jim --
>>
>> Actually, AFAIKR, the heated debate that time was about
>>
>> - hierarchical vs. network (CODASYL) databases (70-ies last century) and
>> then
>> - network (CODASYL) vs. relational databases (80-ies last century).
>>
>> And ISAM/VSAM (and even BDAM) were a "parallel" theme - file access
>> methods to use to implement RDMBSes physical layers.
>> There were a lot of research on distributed databases also in 80-ies as
>> well as on parallel/multi-threaded programming.
>> AFAIU Oracle got a lot from DB2 and other relational DB research projects
>> of 80-ies.
>>
>> Nowadays NoSQL "movement" for Big Data manipulation is looking as "another
>> circle of evolution spiral" (back to hierarchical/network databases) - so
>> one can expect that relational databases will get back in even "bigger that
>> nowadays Big Data Manipulation real business" in 30 years or less on
>> another higher level of never ending evolution spiral...
>>
>> As for Flow-Based Programming - IMO that is a "birds view" or tip of
>> iceberg of what an experienced modern programmer has(/is able) to do by
>> hands. And the gap between what can be done by using Flow-Based Programming
>> (Automation) and by hands will only grow with time. Just my opinion based
>> on my own experience. I can be wrong.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 23:24:05 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 22:24:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j0hR+mbSMxpH-e0oQbpVG+GuHc2R1O2CM1aV-euBFwUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1037293611.139596109.1391318645295.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

Cousin Google seems to have an answer. ;-)

Jim

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From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:37:14 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Storage Space

Precisely my point, Jim. I'm a compulsive archiver and at long last, my
storage capacity has outrun my storage-ambitions. Hell, even excluding the
external USB 3.0 drives, I still have a TB on my laptop -- with more than
half of it free space! I have a 24" monitor attached and now my only desire
is to figure out how to attach another external monitor. Does anyone know,
is there a way to attach a second external monitor? With 8GB of RAM, I have
no problem running Ubuntu as well as Windows 8.1. An if that isn't enough,
the laptop runs utterly silently. Kewl.

The only other piece of hardware that I'm thinking of, which I saw recently
for about $130, is a USB turntable that enables you to play LPs and record
them to hard disk. I have a collection of about 6000 LP records and would
love to copy them to my newly acquired Blu-ray burner ($69), and then dump
them, except for a chosen few, one of which is Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss
America, an album I love so much that I have one unopened copy; I deem this
record a Canadian masterpiece and will hold onto it forever, and never open
it. (I also have the equivalent CD, but there's something special in owning
an unopened vinyl version.)

Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  1 23:28:46 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 22:28:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1isO-pjb9e9w4=UiOPf+0NMQ_x6MvrOBtDqhP288xd62g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1061634090.139597694.1391318926234.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/databases/9780133036138

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:57:07 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends

Jim,

I must be behind a book or two. I didn't know that Martin is now into the
NoSQL movement. I remember him from the Design Patterns stuff that Shamil
cited. Guess I have to catch up.

Arthur

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Feb  2 01:11:10 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 00:11:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Storage Space
In-Reply-To: <1037293611.139596109.1391318645295.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1986887108.139621817.1391325070888.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

Typing too fast...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn9VZq-nDj8

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 9:24:05 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Storage Space

Hi Arthur:

Cousin Google seems to have an answer. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:37:14 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Storage Space

Precisely my point, Jim. I'm a compulsive archiver and at long last, my
storage capacity has outrun my storage-ambitions. Hell, even excluding the
external USB 3.0 drives, I still have a TB on my laptop -- with more than
half of it free space! I have a 24" monitor attached and now my only desire
is to figure out how to attach another external monitor. Does anyone know,
is there a way to attach a second external monitor? With 8GB of RAM, I have
no problem running Ubuntu as well as Windows 8.1. An if that isn't enough,
the laptop runs utterly silently. Kewl.

The only other piece of hardware that I'm thinking of, which I saw recently
for about $130, is a USB turntable that enables you to play LPs and record
them to hard disk. I have a collection of about 6000 LP records and would
love to copy them to my newly acquired Blu-ray burner ($69), and then dump
them, except for a chosen few, one of which is Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss
America, an album I love so much that I have one unopened copy; I deem this
record a Canadian masterpiece and will hold onto it forever, and never open
it. (I also have the equivalent CD, but there's something special in owning
an unopened vinyl version.)

Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Feb  2 11:40:03 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 12:40:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
In-Reply-To: <1061634090.139597694.1391318926234.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAEPJO1isO-pjb9e9w4=UiOPf+0NMQ_x6MvrOBtDqhP288xd62g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1061634090.139597694.1391318926234.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jDcrqs5pn+pCF0ODioAtXqAJY4_hWHdiX8gD2Jk21HQg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Jim. Perusing it now.

Arthur


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/databases/9780133036138
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:57:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Technology trends
>
> Jim,
>
> I must be behind a book or two. I didn't know that Martin is now into the
> NoSQL movement. I remember him from the Design Patterns stuff that Shamil
> cited. Guess I have to catch up.
>
> Arthur
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Feb  2 14:16:03 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 13:16:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Solar Paint?
In-Reply-To: <1391292050.616668042@f324.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1744618167.139965462.1391372163401.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Could solar paint be on the horizon. This article outlines the growth, price and adoption of solar solutions. This article is only weighted towards the US market and does not take into account Asia or Europe...but I would think those trends would be fairly universal for the industrialized regions of the world.

http://www.seia.org/research-resources/solar-industry-data

Jim

 

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Feb  4 00:31:57 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 16:31:57 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi  -  Java Web Server  Programmed in Basic?
In-Reply-To: <1744618167.139965462.1391372163401.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1391292050.616668042@f324.i.mail.ru>,
	<1744618167.139965462.1391372163401.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <52F0895D.28272.540D331@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

How's that for a hardware/software mash-up :)

Basic For Java (B4J), the freeware offering by the producer of Basic4Android now supports 
Raspberry Pi

http://www.basic4ppc.com/android/forum/threads/b4j-and-raspberry-pi-boards.37019/

A webserver running on a Raspberry written in Basic:

http://www.basic4ppc.com/android/forum/threads/server-building-web-servers-with-b4j.37172
/

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  4 00:50:50 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:50:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Data-driven policy and commerce requires algorithmic
	transparency
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jDcrqs5pn+pCF0ODioAtXqAJY4_hWHdiX8gD2Jk21HQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2044090228.141373172.1391496650721.JavaMail.root@cds002>

The romance of a better world through data is over. It's time to look deeper at who is using big data, how they're using it, and for the benefit of whom. 

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/data-driven-policy-and-commerce-requires-algorithmic-transparency/#ftag=RSS56d97e7

A very sharp two edged sword?

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  4 00:55:13 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:55:13 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi - Java Web Server Programmed in Basic?
In-Reply-To: <52F0895D.28272.540D331@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <717773251.141374019.1391496913965.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Stuart:

That is very interesting. I already have a Raspberry PI on it way...more toys. :-)

Jim 

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From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 10:31:57 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi  -  Java Web Server  Programmed in Basic?

How's that for a hardware/software mash-up :)

Basic For Java (B4J), the freeware offering by the producer of Basic4Android now supports 
Raspberry Pi

http://www.basic4ppc.com/android/forum/threads/b4j-and-raspberry-pi-boards.37019/

A webserver running on a Raspberry written in Basic:

http://www.basic4ppc.com/android/forum/threads/server-building-web-servers-with-b4j.37172
/
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  4 01:01:07 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:01:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Latest update of MS SysInternal's Process Explorer
 adds	interaction with VirusTotal.com
In-Reply-To: <018801cf1f7d$5db2dd90$191898b0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1699875999.141376176.1391497267188.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi John:

Good info. That sounds like an excellent program.

Jim

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To: "DBA-Tech" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:42:31 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Latest update of MS SysInternal's Process Explorer adds	interaction with VirusTotal.com

Microsoft's Windows Sysinternal Suite has released the latest version of
Process Explorer v16.0 that has an awesome feature which allows a user to
scan any running program files with a web-based multi-antivirus scanner
VirusTotal.

Process Explorer sends the hashes of images and files shown in the process
and DLL views to VirusTotal, and if they have been previously scanned, it
reports how many antivirus engines identified them as possibly malicious.

This new version of 'Process Explorer' is better than ever before, and is
quite fast that allows you to find unwanted malware immediately and
respective hyper-linked result takes you to VirusTotal.com's detailed report
page and there you can even submit more files for scanning.

Whenever your system starts doing sluggish behavior, you try to find out
what all the processes are running and what their state is, or any deadlock
has occurred? 

Process Explorer shows information about handles and DLLs of running
processes. This tool has a powerful search capability that quickly shows you
which processes have particular handles opened or DLLs loaded.

The unique capabilities of Process Explorer make it useful for tracking down
DLL-version problems or handle leaks, and provide insight into the way
Windows and applications work.

Now you can use VirusTotal to scan the file of a running process on your
computer, and to do that you can right-click on the file and select 'Check
VirusTotal'.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  4 01:12:34 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:12:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] So what really is NoSQL?
In-Reply-To: <52F0895D.28272.540D331@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1425066843.141379853.1391497954456.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Have you ever wondered what it is all about, at least the basics.

I have been going through a book called NoSQL Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Emerging World of Polyglot Persistence, online, written by Pramod Sadalage and Martin Fowler, from Safari Books Online.  

http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/databases/9780133036138.

It is easy reading; well written and not too many big words.

Jim

 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Feb  4 10:35:39 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 20:35:39 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_Infinite_Javascript_resource_-_http?=
 =?utf-8?q?=3A//www=2Ejavascriptoo=2Ecom/?=
Message-ID: <1391531739.460597197@f251.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

FYI: Infinite Javascript resource - http://www.javascriptoo.com/

-- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  4 21:42:43 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 20:42:43 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Infinite Javascript resource -
 http://www.javascriptoo.com/
In-Reply-To: <1391531739.460597197@f251.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1639967353.1007874.1391571763281.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

That is an incredible link . There is so many pieces of code to investigate.

Jim

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From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:35:39 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Infinite Javascript resource - http://www.javascriptoo.com/

 Hi All --

FYI: Infinite Javascript resource - http://www.javascriptoo.com/

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb  4 23:04:15 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 22:04:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has a new CEO
In-Reply-To: <1391531739.460597197@f251.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1016761522.1063741.1391576655592.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

So it is time for a change. Maybe not major but the following fellow presents a two minute video on three things that the new CEO should do:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnk2_U0EoE

Jim

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Feb  4 23:49:35 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:49:35 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_Foursquare_Gets_=2415M_And_Licensing_?=
 =?utf-8?q?Deal_From_Microsoft_To_Power_Location_Context_For_Windows_And_M?=
 =?utf-8?q?obile?=
Message-ID: <1391579375.352261371@f352.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

FYI:? "Foursquare Gets $15M And Licensing Deal From Microsoft To Power Location Context For Windows And Mobile"
http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/04/foursquare-cuts-15m-deal-with-microsoft-to-power-location-and-context-for-windows-and-mobile/

Should we expect "Microsoft Glass" to be announced real soon? ;)

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 10:49:27 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:49:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has a new CEO
In-Reply-To: <1016761522.1063741.1391576655592.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1428996757.1474720.1391618967888.JavaMail.root@cds002>

PS

Here is a discussion on Microsoft's new leader, Satya Nadella.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/4/5169852/satya-nadella-microsoft-ceo

Jim

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Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has a new CEO

Hi All:

So it is time for a change. Maybe not major but the following fellow presents a two minute video on three things that the new CEO should do:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnk2_U0EoE

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 10:51:56 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:51:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Explore the Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1
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Here is a over-view of the latest Visual Studio.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dn574802.aspx

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 10:54:24 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <1016761522.1063741.1391576655592.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <611263374.1482541.1391619264283.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world ready for Android (Linux) to replace Window?

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebox-is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 10:57:42 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:57:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Our brains will be hooked up to the cloud by 2035
In-Reply-To: <1016761522.1063741.1391576655592.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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Hi All:

So says Google:

http://bgr.com/2014/02/04/google-engineering-director-kurzweil-interview-2/

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 11:00:35 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 10:00:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another dozen predictions on the future of programming
In-Reply-To: <1016761522.1063741.1391576655592.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <2001516269.1491295.1391619635593.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

The follow link to another 12 predictions on the future of programming seems to be pretty close to being "right on the money".

http://www.infoworld.com/print/235292

Jim

From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Wed Feb  5 11:03:08 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:03:08 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Our brains will be hooked up to the cloud by 2035
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Cool - will I be able to learn Karate like in the Matrix?


Jon

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Hi All:

So says Google:

http://bgr.com/2014/02/04/google-engineering-director-kurzweil-interview-2/

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 11:51:31 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 10:51:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Foursquare Gets $15M And Licensing Deal From
 Microsoft To Power Location Context For Windows And Mobile
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Hi Shamil:

One thing for sure, with this deal and the expected results, Microsoft's Bing platform, among some of their other products, there will be a tighter integration between the user, MS and advertisers. 

Your current location will be discovered immediately, whether you are using a cell phone or PC connected via WiFi or just a router that has WiFi capabilities. This technology will be directed towards providing a user of Microsoft products with information closer to their location and their preferences when analysis of their personality and history can be applied, in addition.

I am of two minds on this. Having a more personal experience when using Microsoft products is a definite plus but having a system knowing more about me, than I may even know myself, leaves me slightly uncomfortable.

I can see that Microsoft is trying to catch up with their main competition, Google, for web based advertising revenue but I like to feel like a person, with a bit of anonymity rather than a just a quantified product...but that might be just me.
  
Jim      

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From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:49:35 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Foursquare Gets $15M And Licensing Deal From Microsoft To Power Location Context For Windows And Mobile

 Hi All --

FYI:? "Foursquare Gets $15M And Licensing Deal From Microsoft To Power Location Context For Windows And Mobile"
http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/04/foursquare-cuts-15m-deal-with-microsoft-to-power-location-and-context-for-windows-and-mobile/

Should we expect "Microsoft Glass" to be announced real soon? ;)

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 11:59:52 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 10:59:52 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Our brains will be hooked up to the cloud by 2035
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Hi Jon:

One day the phrase from the sixties and seventies, "tune in and tune out" will be a reality. The population will be able to "connect" and then remained "connected indefinitely" or as long as they are within wireless range....the possibilities are endless and much of our Sci-Fi literature will then be science fact.

Jim  

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Cool - will I be able to learn Karate like in the Matrix?


Jon

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Hi All:

So says Google:

http://bgr.com/2014/02/04/google-engineering-director-kurzweil-interview-2/

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Wed Feb  5 12:32:43 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:32:43 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <611263374.1482541.1391619264283.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <611263374.1482541.1391619264283.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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On 2014-02-05 10:54 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world ready for Android (Linux) to replace Window?
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebox-is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7

If you're willing to pay usage fees for the rest of your life to the 
server farm that implements your "cloud", sure, but most XP users, I 
think, have a different set of requirements---fast networking browsing & 
email and a decent Windows-like GUI with Excel2000-fully-compatible 
spreadsheet, PowerPoint2000-fully-compatible presentation software, and 
Word2000-fully-compatible word processing. Thats the 31% or so of 
current Windows users who still run XP, ie many millions who feel no 
compulsion to be near the bleeding edge but are just trying to get their 
'puter work done with minimum fuss----a huge market for an open source 
implementation of "Windows". What seems 'rilly odd to me is that no *Nix 
OS vendor has yet produced what these people need.

PB

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Wed Feb  5 12:35:16 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:35:16 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Our brains will be hooked up to the cloud by 2035
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References: <1888196741.1486723.1391619462883.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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On 2014-02-05 10:57 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> So says Google:
>
> http://bgr.com/2014/02/04/google-engineering-director-kurzweil-interview-2/

"Notnearly as far-out as some of Kurzweil's other predictions"? Tell us 
another one.

PB

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 13:02:12 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:02:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <52F283CB.4010809@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <334217302.1656836.1391626932373.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Peter:

In reality, I tend to agree with you. My personal route is to go Linux, Ubuntu Linux for that matter but there are many other distros that are just as easy to install and maintain...I would go so far as to say these products are easier to install and maintain than Windows...but being over 35 years in the business hardly makes me a user like "Joe Public" and so my normal is slightly skewed.
 
The Linux route is terrifying for many, who have lived and learned the Windows ways for over twenty years...to get a user to leave the world they have grown up in is almost impossible.  OTOH, I am becoming more comfortable using Linux every day...I like fast internet, browsing, a decent Windows like GUI, Excel, Word, Power-point, all fully compatible...my versions are just named Libra Calc, Writer and Impress...and these products are hardly bleeding edge and are 100 percent compatible.

Jim  

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From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:32:43 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?

On 2014-02-05 10:54 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world ready for Android (Linux) to replace Window?
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebox-is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7

If you're willing to pay usage fees for the rest of your life to the 
server farm that implements your "cloud", sure, but most XP users, I 
think, have a different set of requirements---fast networking browsing & 
email and a decent Windows-like GUI with Excel2000-fully-compatible 
spreadsheet, PowerPoint2000-fully-compatible presentation software, and 
Word2000-fully-compatible word processing. Thats the 31% or so of 
current Windows users who still run XP, ie many millions who feel no 
compulsion to be near the bleeding edge but are just trying to get their 
'puter work done with minimum fuss----a huge market for an open source 
implementation of "Windows". What seems 'rilly odd to me is that no *Nix 
OS vendor has yet produced what these people need.

PB

-----

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 13:03:18 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:03:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Our brains will be hooked up to the cloud by 2035
In-Reply-To: <52F28464.6070800@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1678594975.1658333.1391626998988.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Peter:

Ha ha... He does like to shake the branch for sure.

Jim

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:35:16 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Our brains will be hooked up to the cloud by 2035

On 2014-02-05 10:57 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> So says Google:
>
> http://bgr.com/2014/02/04/google-engineering-director-kurzweil-interview-2/

"Notnearly as far-out as some of Kurzweil's other predictions"? Tell us 
another one.

PB

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 13:13:42 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:13:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] SQLite
In-Reply-To: <52F28464.6070800@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <106298263.1671376.1391627622728.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

I have just been asked to connect SQLite to an Access DB. Has anyone had any experience with this product?

http://www.sqlite.org/

Jim

From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Wed Feb  5 13:20:45 2014
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:20:45 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] SQLite
In-Reply-To: <106298263.1671376.1391627622728.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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Yes. It's one of the most popular lightweight databases. Chances are that most, if not a significant portion, of the software you use is using SQLite as it's database behind the scenes - such as your web browser or your mobile app.

- Hans


> On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> I have just been asked to connect SQLite to an Access DB. Has anyone had any experience with this product?
> 
> http://www.sqlite.org/
> 
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From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Wed Feb  5 13:26:23 2014
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:26:23 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <334217302.1656836.1391626932373.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <334217302.1656836.1391626932373.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <5AD1DFF9-3754-4FC0-A877-898DFAFF882E@phulse.com>

There is ReactOS, but I haven't personally used it, so I can't say more than that:

ReactOS? is a free open source operating system based on the best design principles found in the Windows NT? architecture (Windows versions such as Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 are built on Windows NT architecture). Written completely from scratch, ReactOS is not a Linux based system, and shares none of theUNIX architecture.

The main goal of the ReactOS? project is to provide an operating system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your Windows? applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows system. Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is used, such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of Windows? would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal of ReactOS? is to allow you to use it as alternative to Windows? without the need to change software you are used to.

ReactOS 0.3.15 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and isrecommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.



- Hans


> On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter:
> 
> In reality, I tend to agree with you. My personal route is to go Linux, Ubuntu Linux for that matter but there are many other distros that are just as easy to install and maintain...I would go so far as to say these products are easier to install and maintain than Windows...but being over 35 years in the business hardly makes me a user like "Joe Public" and so my normal is slightly skewed.
> 
> The Linux route is terrifying for many, who have lived and learned the Windows ways for over twenty years...to get a user to leave the world they have grown up in is almost impossible.  OTOH, I am becoming more comfortable using Linux every day...I like fast internet, browsing, a decent Windows like GUI, Excel, Word, Power-point, all fully compatible...my versions are just named Libra Calc, Writer and Impress...and these products are hardly bleeding edge and are 100 percent compatible.
> 
> Jim  
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:32:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
> 
>> On 2014-02-05 10:54 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world ready for Android (Linux) to replace Window?
>> 
>> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebox-is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7
> 
> If you're willing to pay usage fees for the rest of your life to the 
> server farm that implements your "cloud", sure, but most XP users, I 
> think, have a different set of requirements---fast networking browsing & 
> email and a decent Windows-like GUI with Excel2000-fully-compatible 
> spreadsheet, PowerPoint2000-fully-compatible presentation software, and 
> Word2000-fully-compatible word processing. Thats the 31% or so of 
> current Windows users who still run XP, ie many millions who feel no 
> compulsion to be near the bleeding edge but are just trying to get their 
> 'puter work done with minimum fuss----a huge market for an open source 
> implementation of "Windows". What seems 'rilly odd to me is that no *Nix 
> OS vendor has yet produced what these people need.
> 
> PB
> 
> -----
> 
>> 
>> Jim
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb  5 14:32:19 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:32:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Our brains will be hooked up to the cloud by 2035
In-Reply-To: <1678594975.1658333.1391626998988.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <52F28464.6070800@earthlink.net>
	<1678594975.1658333.1391626998988.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j0USwwwKJY719pcuxL49982CQMqxxXNAG_wvVd04U3PA@mail.gmail.com>

Going back to the original message, as a ni-dan student of Shotokan karate,
I venture to say that no cyber-stuff can replace actual physical practice.
Simply not possible. You must understand in the physical world what it is
like to kick and be kicked. I once failed to block a back-roundhouse kick
and it cost me three broken ribs plus time in the hospital.

Arthur


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Peter:
>
> Ha ha... He does like to shake the branch for sure.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:35:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Our brains will be hooked up to the cloud by 2035
>
> On 2014-02-05 10:57 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> > Hi All:
> >
> > So says Google:
> >
> >
> http://bgr.com/2014/02/04/google-engineering-director-kurzweil-interview-2/
>
> "Notnearly as far-out as some of Kurzweil's other predictions"? Tell us
> another one.
>
> PB
>
> >
> > Jim
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-- 
Arthur

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Feb  5 15:06:05 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 07:06:05 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] SQLite
In-Reply-To: <106298263.1671376.1391627622728.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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	<106298263.1671376.1391627622728.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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SQLite is a single user, embedded database engine. It is the default engine which comes on 
all Android devices.  In Windows, it is a single DLL.

I've written several applications for transferring data between Access/SQL Server and 
SQLite.(using PowerBASIC) for moving data between tablets and Windows, but not 
interfaced with it directly through Access.  The problem is that Access is multi-user and 
SQLite is single user.  

If your Access application is single user, you can download and instal the SQLite3 ODBC 
driver and  then just use your SQLIte database file as an ODBC source, but be very careful if 
it is multi-user.   


On 5 Feb 2014 at 12:13, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> I have just been asked to connect SQLite to an Access DB. Has anyone
> had any experience with this product?
> 
> http://www.sqlite.org/
> 
> Jim
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb  5 18:06:50 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 19:06:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <5AD1DFF9-3754-4FC0-A877-898DFAFF882E@phulse.com>
References: <334217302.1656836.1391626932373.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<5AD1DFF9-3754-4FC0-A877-898DFAFF882E@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1ijHgkGC363+1=Ui4CKvkv6g7W9Fuy2eFAhRrW4OKvOjg@mail.gmail.com>

How does one write an OS? I feel so old and so out of the loop. Perhaps I
should just hang up my spurs and give it all up. Time was, I deemed myself
talented. Those times are long gone. O well.

Arthur the Ancient


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen <
hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote:

> There is ReactOS, but I haven't personally used it, so I can't say more
> than that:
>
> ReactOS? is a free open source operating system based on the best design
> principles found in the Windows NT? architecture (Windows versions such as
> Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 are built on Windows NT
> architecture). Written completely from scratch, ReactOS is not a Linux
> based system, and shares none of theUNIX architecture.
>
> The main goal of the ReactOS? project is to provide an operating system
> which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your Windows?
> applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows system.
> Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is used,
> such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of Windows?
> would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal of ReactOS? is
> to allow you to use it as alternative to Windows? without the need to
> change software you are used to.
>
> ReactOS 0.3.15 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete
> and isrecommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.
>
>
>
> - Hans
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter:
> >
> > In reality, I tend to agree with you. My personal route is to go Linux,
> Ubuntu Linux for that matter but there are many other distros that are just
> as easy to install and maintain...I would go so far as to say these
> products are easier to install and maintain than Windows...but being over
> 35 years in the business hardly makes me a user like "Joe Public" and so my
> normal is slightly skewed.
> >
> > The Linux route is terrifying for many, who have lived and learned the
> Windows ways for over twenty years...to get a user to leave the world they
> have grown up in is almost impossible.  OTOH, I am becoming more
> comfortable using Linux every day...I like fast internet, browsing, a
> decent Windows like GUI, Excel, Word, Power-point, all fully
> compatible...my versions are just named Libra Calc, Writer and
> Impress...and these products are hardly bleeding edge and are 100 percent
> compatible.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:32:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
> >
> >> On 2014-02-05 10:54 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world ready
> for Android (Linux) to replace Window?
> >>
> >>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebox-is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7
> >
> > If you're willing to pay usage fees for the rest of your life to the
> > server farm that implements your "cloud", sure, but most XP users, I
> > think, have a different set of requirements---fast networking browsing &
> > email and a decent Windows-like GUI with Excel2000-fully-compatible
> > spreadsheet, PowerPoint2000-fully-compatible presentation software, and
> > Word2000-fully-compatible word processing. Thats the 31% or so of
> > current Windows users who still run XP, ie many millions who feel no
> > compulsion to be near the bleeding edge but are just trying to get their
> > 'puter work done with minimum fuss----a huge market for an open source
> > implementation of "Windows". What seems 'rilly odd to me is that no *Nix
> > OS vendor has yet produced what these people need.
> >
> > PB
> >
> > -----
> >
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Feb  5 18:27:49 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:27:49 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1ijHgkGC363+1=Ui4CKvkv6g7W9Fuy2eFAhRrW4OKvOjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <334217302.1656836.1391626932373.JavaMail.root@cds002><5AD1DFF9-3754-4FC0-A877-898DFAFF882E@phulse.com>
	<CAEPJO1ijHgkGC363+1=Ui4CKvkv6g7W9Fuy2eFAhRrW4OKvOjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F1CD8BDD5AD0420398A7717B79F071E7@HAL9007>

That's why I gave up programming for music.  The skills I've accumulated
over a lifetime are still relevant. Two, five, ten years from now those
skills will still be good.  

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 4:07 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?

How does one write an OS? I feel so old and so out of the loop. Perhaps I
should just hang up my spurs and give it all up. Time was, I deemed myself
talented. Those times are long gone. O well.

Arthur the Ancient


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen <
hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote:

> There is ReactOS, but I haven't personally used it, so I can't say 
> more than that:
>
> ReactOSR is a free open source operating system based on the best 
> design principles found in the Windows NTR architecture (Windows 
> versions such as Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 are built 
> on Windows NT architecture). Written completely from scratch, ReactOS 
> is not a Linux based system, and shares none of theUNIX architecture.
>
> The main goal of the ReactOSR project is to provide an operating 
> system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your 
> WindowsR applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows
system.
> Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is 
> used, such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of 
> WindowsR would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal 
> of ReactOSR is to allow you to use it as alternative to WindowsR 
> without the need to change software you are used to.
>
> ReactOS 0.3.15 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not 
> feature-complete and isrecommended only for evaluation and testing
purposes.
>
>
>
> - Hans
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter:
> >
> > In reality, I tend to agree with you. My personal route is to go 
> > Linux,
> Ubuntu Linux for that matter but there are many other distros that are 
> just as easy to install and maintain...I would go so far as to say 
> these products are easier to install and maintain than Windows...but 
> being over
> 35 years in the business hardly makes me a user like "Joe Public" and 
> so my normal is slightly skewed.
> >
> > The Linux route is terrifying for many, who have lived and learned 
> > the
> Windows ways for over twenty years...to get a user to leave the world 
> they have grown up in is almost impossible.  OTOH, I am becoming more 
> comfortable using Linux every day...I like fast internet, browsing, a 
> decent Windows like GUI, Excel, Word, Power-point, all fully 
> compatible...my versions are just named Libra Calc, Writer and 
> Impress...and these products are hardly bleeding edge and are 100 
> percent compatible.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:32:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
> >
> >> On 2014-02-05 10:54 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world 
> >> ready
> for Android (Linux) to replace Window?
> >>
> >>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebox-
> is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7
> >
> > If you're willing to pay usage fees for the rest of your life to the 
> > server farm that implements your "cloud", sure, but most XP users, I 
> > think, have a different set of requirements---fast networking 
> > browsing & email and a decent Windows-like GUI with 
> > Excel2000-fully-compatible spreadsheet, 
> > PowerPoint2000-fully-compatible presentation software, and 
> > Word2000-fully-compatible word processing. Thats the 31% or so of 
> > current Windows users who still run XP, ie many millions who feel no 
> > compulsion to be near the bleeding edge but are just trying to get 
> > their 'puter work done with minimum fuss----a huge market for an 
> > open source implementation of "Windows". What seems 'rilly odd to me is
that no *Nix OS vendor has yet produced what these people need.
> >
> > PB
> >
> > -----
> >
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
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> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Wed Feb  5 19:04:36 2014
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:04:36 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has a new CEO
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References: <1428996757.1474720.1391618967888.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <18B824EB-9CAB-4CA0-9CF1-F094564398CD@phulse.com>

Microsofts new CEO looks like he was picked to be Microsofts Tim Cook.

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


> On 5 Feb 2014, at 08:49, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> PS
> 
> Here is a discussion on Microsoft's new leader, Satya Nadella.
> 
> http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/4/5169852/satya-nadella-microsoft-ceo
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:04:15 PM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has a new CEO
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> So it is time for a change. Maybe not major but the following fellow presents a two minute video on three things that the new CEO should do:
> 
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnk2_U0EoE
> 
> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 20:49:14 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 19:49:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bill Gates first day in the office
In-Reply-To: <18B824EB-9CAB-4CA0-9CF1-F094564398CD@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <1533024329.2109183.1391654954888.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

In the following link it suggested it took Bill Gates a day to install Windows 8 and another day to figure out how to use it...? ;-)

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/02/gates-spends-entire-first-day-back-in-office-trying-to-install-windows-81.html?utm_source=tny&utm_campaign=generalsocial&utm_medium=facebook&mbid=social_facebook

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 20:58:38 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 19:58:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] SQLite
In-Reply-To: <52F2A7BD.21868.D877B1F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <2011569863.2114143.1391655518823.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Stuart:

That little SQL has been passing under my radar for years. Thanks for the info...I will pass this along.

PS: Dug the following up...which seems to explain it all:

<quote>
http://www.sqlite.org/faq.html#q5

    Multiple processes can have the same database open at the same time. Multiple processes can be doing a SELECT at the same time. But only one process can be making changes to the database at any moment in time, however.

    SQLite uses reader/writer locks to control access to the database. (Under Win95/98/ME which lacks support for reader/writer locks, a probabilistic simulation is used instead.) But use caution: this locking mechanism might not work correctly if the database file is kept on an NFS filesystem. This is because fcntl() file locking is broken on many NFS implementations. You should avoid putting SQLite database files on NFS if multiple processes might try to access the file at the same time. On Windows, Microsoft's documentation says that locking may not work under FAT filesystems if you are not running the Share.exe daemon. People who have a lot of experience with Windows tell me that file locking of network files is very buggy and is not dependable. If what they say is true, sharing an SQLite database between two or more Windows machines might cause unexpected problems.
</quote>

This sounds like a similar situation, I had many years ago when, there was a thousand potential users and only a 12 connection licence for the MS SQL DB. ;-)
 
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>, "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 1:06:05 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SQLite

SQLite is a single user, embedded database engine. It is the default engine which comes on 
all Android devices.  In Windows, it is a single DLL.

I've written several applications for transferring data between Access/SQL Server and 
SQLite.(using PowerBASIC) for moving data between tablets and Windows, but not 
interfaced with it directly through Access.  The problem is that Access is multi-user and 
SQLite is single user.  

If your Access application is single user, you can download and instal the SQLite3 ODBC 
driver and  then just use your SQLIte database file as an ODBC source, but be very careful if 
it is multi-user.   


On 5 Feb 2014 at 12:13, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> I have just been asked to connect SQLite to an Access DB. Has anyone
> had any experience with this product?
> 
> http://www.sqlite.org/
> 
> Jim
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 21:35:12 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 20:35:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1ijHgkGC363+1=Ui4CKvkv6g7W9Fuy2eFAhRrW4OKvOjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1564772434.2134772.1391657712069.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

It does like it always takes. Years of dedication, little or no family life and an absolute obsession to produce results.

Sort of like writing a book.   

A friend wrote an entire OS, called Oasis, on top of the 68000 chip. The OS was insanely fast and was fully pre-emptive multi-tasking, really time, multi-user and multi-machine system and had a full GUI with the first parallel processing programming language I had ever seen. My friend worked on it, virtual non-stop from 1988 to 1994 before poor health stopped him. I said that he should have built his OS on the Intel chip but he figured that the 68000 chip was so far superior that the market would eventually see the obvious...sadly it did not.

I checked to see whether the OS has even a mention on the web but sadly, not a link.

Back in the day, we sold over a hundred copies of the OS, at an Atari convention, in Toronto....so there may still be some copies around.
     
Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:06:50 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?

How does one write an OS? I feel so old and so out of the loop. Perhaps I
should just hang up my spurs and give it all up. Time was, I deemed myself
talented. Those times are long gone. O well.

Arthur the Ancient


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen <
hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote:

> There is ReactOS, but I haven't personally used it, so I can't say more
> than that:
>
> ReactOS? is a free open source operating system based on the best design
> principles found in the Windows NT? architecture (Windows versions such as
> Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 are built on Windows NT
> architecture). Written completely from scratch, ReactOS is not a Linux
> based system, and shares none of theUNIX architecture.
>
> The main goal of the ReactOS? project is to provide an operating system
> which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your Windows?
> applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows system.
> Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is used,
> such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of Windows?
> would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal of ReactOS? is
> to allow you to use it as alternative to Windows? without the need to
> change software you are used to.
>
> ReactOS 0.3.15 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete
> and isrecommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.
>
>
>
> - Hans
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter:
> >
> > In reality, I tend to agree with you. My personal route is to go Linux,
> Ubuntu Linux for that matter but there are many other distros that are just
> as easy to install and maintain...I would go so far as to say these
> products are easier to install and maintain than Windows...but being over
> 35 years in the business hardly makes me a user like "Joe Public" and so my
> normal is slightly skewed.
> >
> > The Linux route is terrifying for many, who have lived and learned the
> Windows ways for over twenty years...to get a user to leave the world they
> have grown up in is almost impossible.  OTOH, I am becoming more
> comfortable using Linux every day...I like fast internet, browsing, a
> decent Windows like GUI, Excel, Word, Power-point, all fully
> compatible...my versions are just named Libra Calc, Writer and
> Impress...and these products are hardly bleeding edge and are 100 percent
> compatible.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:32:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
> >
> >> On 2014-02-05 10:54 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world ready
> for Android (Linux) to replace Window?
> >>
> >>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebox-is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7
> >
> > If you're willing to pay usage fees for the rest of your life to the
> > server farm that implements your "cloud", sure, but most XP users, I
> > think, have a different set of requirements---fast networking browsing &
> > email and a decent Windows-like GUI with Excel2000-fully-compatible
> > spreadsheet, PowerPoint2000-fully-compatible presentation software, and
> > Word2000-fully-compatible word processing. Thats the 31% or so of
> > current Windows users who still run XP, ie many millions who feel no
> > compulsion to be near the bleeding edge but are just trying to get their
> > 'puter work done with minimum fuss----a huge market for an open source
> > implementation of "Windows". What seems 'rilly odd to me is that no *Nix
> > OS vendor has yet produced what these people need.
> >
> > PB
> >
> > -----
> >
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb  5 21:37:41 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 20:37:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has a new CEO
In-Reply-To: <18B824EB-9CAB-4CA0-9CF1-F094564398CD@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <945701567.2136176.1391657861391.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Hans:

You may be right but they are hoping for a Steve Jobs. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 5:04:36 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has a new CEO

Microsofts new CEO looks like he was picked to be Microsofts Tim Cook.

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


> On 5 Feb 2014, at 08:49, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> PS
> 
> Here is a discussion on Microsoft's new leader, Satya Nadella.
> 
> http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/4/5169852/satya-nadella-microsoft-ceo
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:04:15 PM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has a new CEO
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> So it is time for a change. Maybe not major but the following fellow presents a two minute video on three things that the new CEO should do:
> 
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnk2_U0EoE
> 
> Jim
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 05:21:28 2014
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 05:21:28 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bill Gates first day in the office
In-Reply-To: <1533024329.2109183.1391654954888.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <18B824EB-9CAB-4CA0-9CF1-F094564398CD@phulse.com>
	<1533024329.2109183.1391654954888.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pKtu0bV_xSz=at7hSpr0YMMZJ+6=mK5qGDeV-gEYVTa-A@mail.gmail.com>

That was pretty funny


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> In the following link it suggested it took Bill Gates a day to install
> Windows 8 and another day to figure out how to use it...? ;-)
>
>
> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/02/gates-spends-entire-first-day-back-in-office-trying-to-install-windows-81.html?utm_source=tny&utm_campaign=generalsocial&utm_medium=facebook&mbid=social_facebook
>
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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 05:40:29 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 11:40:29 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <F1CD8BDD5AD0420398A7717B79F071E7@HAL9007>
References: <334217302.1656836.1391626932373.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<5AD1DFF9-3754-4FC0-A877-898DFAFF882E@phulse.com>
	<CAEPJO1ijHgkGC363+1=Ui4CKvkv6g7W9Fuy2eFAhRrW4OKvOjg@mail.gmail.com>
	<F1CD8BDD5AD0420398A7717B79F071E7@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCgnr3=x1uKXcFeRohON77XYL=29fMiXG42w0HaZ-HdHNA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Rocky

good point about the music.

I spoke to the kids orthodontist recently and mentioned to her that I had
been working hard and enjoying my work for 25 years writing software.
However, most of my work is no longer in use.  I am not really sure if it
ever makes anyone else's life better.  She on the other hand changes
peoples lives within six months and those changes last a lifetime.

I still love my work, but it is a good thing because otherwise we could
become disillusioned.

It is particularly because of this trend, for technology to constantly
change and become out of date that I do not believe in being on the
bleeding edge.  I am happy to work on what is a few years old, and then try
to get 4 - 8 years from that technology.  It reduces the burden of learning
new stuff every 18 months.

I know of a lady in Dublin that is doing Access development since the
90's.  She never switched to VB, web, SQL Server etc.  She happily develops
app in Access.  I believe that she is quite wealthy doing the same ol' same
ol' for the last twenty years.  No learning curve ever, and the work she
does is so easy.  Interesting business model.

Have you posted any of your music for us to listen to ?

Mark







On 6 February 2014 00:27, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

> That's why I gave up programming for music.  The skills I've accumulated
> over a lifetime are still relevant. Two, five, ten years from now those
> skills will still be good.
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 4:07 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
>
> How does one write an OS? I feel so old and so out of the loop. Perhaps I
> should just hang up my spurs and give it all up. Time was, I deemed myself
> talented. Those times are long gone. O well.
>
> Arthur the Ancient
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen <
> hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote:
>
> > There is ReactOS, but I haven't personally used it, so I can't say
> > more than that:
> >
> > ReactOSR is a free open source operating system based on the best
> > design principles found in the Windows NTR architecture (Windows
> > versions such as Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 are built
> > on Windows NT architecture). Written completely from scratch, ReactOS
> > is not a Linux based system, and shares none of theUNIX architecture.
> >
> > The main goal of the ReactOSR project is to provide an operating
> > system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your
> > WindowsR applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows
> system.
> > Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is
> > used, such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of
> > WindowsR would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal
> > of ReactOSR is to allow you to use it as alternative to WindowsR
> > without the need to change software you are used to.
> >
> > ReactOS 0.3.15 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not
> > feature-complete and isrecommended only for evaluation and testing
> purposes.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Hans
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Peter:
> > >
> > > In reality, I tend to agree with you. My personal route is to go
> > > Linux,
> > Ubuntu Linux for that matter but there are many other distros that are
> > just as easy to install and maintain...I would go so far as to say
> > these products are easier to install and maintain than Windows...but
> > being over
> > 35 years in the business hardly makes me a user like "Joe Public" and
> > so my normal is slightly skewed.
> > >
> > > The Linux route is terrifying for many, who have lived and learned
> > > the
> > Windows ways for over twenty years...to get a user to leave the world
> > they have grown up in is almost impossible.  OTOH, I am becoming more
> > comfortable using Linux every day...I like fast internet, browsing, a
> > decent Windows like GUI, Excel, Word, Power-point, all fully
> > compatible...my versions are just named Libra Calc, Writer and
> > Impress...and these products are hardly bleeding edge and are 100
> > percent compatible.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:32:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
> > >
> > >> On 2014-02-05 10:54 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> > >> Hi All:
> > >>
> > >> ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world
> > >> ready
> > for Android (Linux) to replace Window?
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebox-
> > is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7
> > >
> > > If you're willing to pay usage fees for the rest of your life to the
> > > server farm that implements your "cloud", sure, but most XP users, I
> > > think, have a different set of requirements---fast networking
> > > browsing & email and a decent Windows-like GUI with
> > > Excel2000-fully-compatible spreadsheet,
> > > PowerPoint2000-fully-compatible presentation software, and
> > > Word2000-fully-compatible word processing. Thats the 31% or so of
> > > current Windows users who still run XP, ie many millions who feel no
> > > compulsion to be near the bleeding edge but are just trying to get
> > > their 'puter work done with minimum fuss----a huge market for an
> > > open source implementation of "Windows". What seems 'rilly odd to me is
> that no *Nix OS vendor has yet produced what these people need.
> > >
> > > PB
> > >
> > > -----
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Jim
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
>
>
> --
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Feb  6 08:26:16 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 06:26:16 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCgnr3=x1uKXcFeRohON77XYL=29fMiXG42w0HaZ-HdHNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <334217302.1656836.1391626932373.JavaMail.root@cds002><5AD1DFF9-3754-4FC0-A877-898DFAFF882E@phulse.com><CAEPJO1ijHgkGC363+1=Ui4CKvkv6g7W9Fuy2eFAhRrW4OKvOjg@mail.gmail.com><F1CD8BDD5AD0420398A7717B79F071E7@HAL9007>
	<CAGXtTCgnr3=x1uKXcFeRohON77XYL=29fMiXG42w0HaZ-HdHNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10B9AD38BC054E05A9F966FB42E14649@HAL9007>

We're doing a gig Friday and I think the singer may be bringing some
recording equipment.  

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 3:40 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?

Hello Rocky

good point about the music.

I spoke to the kids orthodontist recently and mentioned to her that I had
been working hard and enjoying my work for 25 years writing software.
However, most of my work is no longer in use.  I am not really sure if it
ever makes anyone else's life better.  She on the other hand changes peoples
lives within six months and those changes last a lifetime.

I still love my work, but it is a good thing because otherwise we could
become disillusioned.

It is particularly because of this trend, for technology to constantly
change and become out of date that I do not believe in being on the bleeding
edge.  I am happy to work on what is a few years old, and then try to get 4
- 8 years from that technology.  It reduces the burden of learning new stuff
every 18 months.

I know of a lady in Dublin that is doing Access development since the 90's.
She never switched to VB, web, SQL Server etc.  She happily develops app in
Access.  I believe that she is quite wealthy doing the same ol' same ol' for
the last twenty years.  No learning curve ever, and the work she does is so
easy.  Interesting business model.

Have you posted any of your music for us to listen to ?

Mark







On 6 February 2014 00:27, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

> That's why I gave up programming for music.  The skills I've 
> accumulated over a lifetime are still relevant. Two, five, ten years 
> from now those skills will still be good.
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur 
> Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 4:07 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
>
> How does one write an OS? I feel so old and so out of the loop. 
> Perhaps I should just hang up my spurs and give it all up. Time was, I 
> deemed myself talented. Those times are long gone. O well.
>
> Arthur the Ancient
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen < 
> hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote:
>
> > There is ReactOS, but I haven't personally used it, so I can't say 
> > more than that:
> >
> > ReactOSR is a free open source operating system based on the best 
> > design principles found in the Windows NTR architecture (Windows 
> > versions such as Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 are 
> > built on Windows NT architecture). Written completely from scratch, 
> > ReactOS is not a Linux based system, and shares none of theUNIX
architecture.
> >
> > The main goal of the ReactOSR project is to provide an operating 
> > system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your 
> > WindowsR applications and drivers to run as they would on your 
> > Windows
> system.
> > Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is 
> > used, such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of 
> > WindowsR would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal 
> > of ReactOSR is to allow you to use it as alternative to WindowsR 
> > without the need to change software you are used to.
> >
> > ReactOS 0.3.15 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not 
> > feature-complete and isrecommended only for evaluation and testing
> purposes.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Hans
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Peter:
> > >
> > > In reality, I tend to agree with you. My personal route is to go 
> > > Linux,
> > Ubuntu Linux for that matter but there are many other distros that 
> > are just as easy to install and maintain...I would go so far as to 
> > say these products are easier to install and maintain than 
> > Windows...but being over
> > 35 years in the business hardly makes me a user like "Joe Public" 
> > and so my normal is slightly skewed.
> > >
> > > The Linux route is terrifying for many, who have lived and learned 
> > > the
> > Windows ways for over twenty years...to get a user to leave the 
> > world they have grown up in is almost impossible.  OTOH, I am 
> > becoming more comfortable using Linux every day...I like fast 
> > internet, browsing, a decent Windows like GUI, Excel, Word, 
> > Power-point, all fully compatible...my versions are just named Libra 
> > Calc, Writer and Impress...and these products are hardly bleeding 
> > edge and are 100 percent compatible.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:32:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] XP replacement?
> > >
> > >> On 2014-02-05 10:54 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> > >> Hi All:
> > >>
> > >> ASUS is selling, what it calls the XP replacement. Is the world 
> > >> ready
> > for Android (Linux) to replace Window?
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://www.techrepublic.com/article/xp-replacement-179-asus-chromebo
> > x-
> > is-most-powerful-chrome-device-to-date/#ftag=RSS56d97e7
> > >
> > > If you're willing to pay usage fees for the rest of your life to 
> > > the server farm that implements your "cloud", sure, but most XP 
> > > users, I think, have a different set of requirements---fast 
> > > networking browsing & email and a decent Windows-like GUI with 
> > > Excel2000-fully-compatible spreadsheet, 
> > > PowerPoint2000-fully-compatible presentation software, and 
> > > Word2000-fully-compatible word processing. Thats the 31% or so of 
> > > current Windows users who still run XP, ie many millions who feel 
> > > no compulsion to be near the bleeding edge but are just trying to 
> > > get their 'puter work done with minimum fuss----a huge market for 
> > > an open source implementation of "Windows". What seems 'rilly odd 
> > > to me is
> that no *Nix OS vendor has yet produced what these people need.
> > >
> > > PB
> > >
> > > -----
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Jim
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
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> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> >
>
>
>
> --
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb  6 10:52:22 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 09:52:22 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Crowd funding
In-Reply-To: <52F2A7BD.21868.D877B1F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <2069568316.2554061.1391705542718.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Crowd Funding for tech is the new big thing but even newer is the Patreon funding site. That is a site that raises funds for Art type ventures.

How successful could that be you ask. Well check out the following:

http://www.patreon.com/acedtect

Aside: Considering that PBS is mostly funded by private donations. Fifteen percent of its expenses is provided by the government through various channels (more is now being funded by commercial advertisers) but the other 85 percent is from private donations. (An interesting note is that, this US station, as of 2013 has recorded that 35 percent of it private revenue is being provided by individual Canadian citizens.)

Jim  

From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Feb  7 03:17:16 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 10:17:16 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hortonworks: Hadoop, Windows, ODBC, and Azure
Message-ID: <005701cf23e5$64e5f9f0$2eb1edd0$@cactus.dk>

Hi all

 

If you (like me) refrain from messing around with Linux or Solaris servers
but would like to check out a Big Data database like Hadoop, Hortonworks
offers a free Windows implementation:

 

    http://hortonworks.com/products/hdp-windows/

 

They even offer downloads of virtual machines for developing purposes and an
ODBC-driver and a guide for using Excel to access such data:

 

 
http://hortonworks.com/hadoop-tutorial/how-to-use-excel-2013-to-access-hadoo
p-data/

 

Also, a lot of other guides and tutorials are offered.

 

Further, if you wish to run Hadoop hosted on Azure, it seems quite easy to
do:

 

   http://hortonworks.com/partner/microsoft/

 

Everything is open-source.

 

/gustav


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  7 14:21:32 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:21:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hortonworks: Hadoop, Windows, ODBC, and Azure
In-Reply-To: <005701cf23e5$64e5f9f0$2eb1edd0$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1494690951.3951995.1391804492704.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

Well it is about bloody time. 

Windows servers have been languishing in the background for ages as these very important technologies have only been fully available on Linux systems or on Windows servers via virtual Linux drives or through emulators like Cygwin. 

If this is a true native port and not just another mashup it couldn't come at a better time for Microsoft and the new age of Big Data. 

Aside: Of course, the BE databases and all the other BD infrastructure products, at this time can not be Microsoft products. OTOH, if this means that the language F#, built for this environment, can take advantage of this release that will also be great. 

Now that the distributive part of the product stack has been fully implemented and is reliable, does that mean that all the other components have been fully ported? It would be interesting to see if this port, running on a similar powered Linux machine can give equal performance results. Another question I would ask is whether adoption of this software version mean that a server cluster must be only MS or can it mix and match? One of the main reasons for going Linux, within the BD environment, is to reduce costs as a server cluster can extend from two servers to thousands...would each server have to have a Microsoft licence to work?...which could increase deployment costs, on big sites, by millions?     

In summary, I think this product introduction is excellent but I wonder if it will be just a learning tool for Microsoft-only-techs, so they can get up to speed in the world of Linux Big Data and then allow them easily be seduced over to the darkside? ;-) 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 7 February, 2014 1:17:16 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hortonworks: Hadoop, Windows, ODBC, and Azure

Hi all

 

If you (like me) refrain from messing around with Linux or Solaris servers
but would like to check out a Big Data database like Hadoop, Hortonworks
offers a free Windows implementation:

 

    http://hortonworks.com/products/hdp-windows/

 

They even offer downloads of virtual machines for developing purposes and an
ODBC-driver and a guide for using Excel to access such data:

 

 
http://hortonworks.com/hadoop-tutorial/how-to-use-excel-2013-to-access-hadoo
p-data/

 

Also, a lot of other guides and tutorials are offered.

 

Further, if you wish to run Hadoop hosted on Azure, it seems quite easy to
do:

 

   http://hortonworks.com/partner/microsoft/

 

Everything is open-source.

 

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  7 14:27:01 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:27:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hortonworks: Hadoop, Windows, ODBC, and Azure
In-Reply-To: <005701cf23e5$64e5f9f0$2eb1edd0$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <93692208.3958141.1391804821402.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

Just another note. To the best of my knowledge, most DB databases default their results to JSON objects. If your FE can translate that standard you should be good to go.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 7 February, 2014 1:17:16 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hortonworks: Hadoop, Windows, ODBC, and Azure

Hi all

 

If you (like me) refrain from messing around with Linux or Solaris servers
but would like to check out a Big Data database like Hadoop, Hortonworks
offers a free Windows implementation:

 

    http://hortonworks.com/products/hdp-windows/

 

They even offer downloads of virtual machines for developing purposes and an
ODBC-driver and a guide for using Excel to access such data:

 

 
http://hortonworks.com/hadoop-tutorial/how-to-use-excel-2013-to-access-hadoo
p-data/

 

Also, a lot of other guides and tutorials are offered.

 

Further, if you wish to run Hadoop hosted on Azure, it seems quite easy to
do:

 

   http://hortonworks.com/partner/microsoft/

 

Everything is open-source.

 

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  7 16:07:47 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 15:07:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] What are the difference
In-Reply-To: <93692208.3958141.1391804821402.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <502855406.4056586.1391810867322.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

I have often wondered what the differences and the reasons why someone would use JASON objects instead of XML objects and vice-versa.

It seems that the explanation is fairly simple. See the answer in the following link:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2620270/what-is-the-difference-between-json-and-xml

Now you can rest easy. ;-)

Jim 

From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Fri Feb  7 18:08:25 2014
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:08:25 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] What are the difference
In-Reply-To: <502855406.4056586.1391810867322.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <502855406.4056586.1391810867322.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <0D3C023F-470C-4F9E-B580-425CB7821C9F@phulse.com>

The top comment is missing the most blindingly obvious reason why you would use JSON over XML - and it's right in the name.

JSON = JavaScript Object Notation (the big clue here is JavaScript!)

This is how you write JavaScript objects, because JSON is a subset of JS. JSON was introduced as a way of providing data (server to client) in a format that he browser/JavaScript didn't have to parse for rich web apps. It got more popular and has grown to be used in more environments simply because it is lighter and reads a lot easier than XML (good lord, reading large XML documents can sometimes be a nightmare. Don't use XML for configuration! :) ).

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


> On 7 Feb 2014, at 14:07, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> I have often wondered what the differences and the reasons why someone would use JASON objects instead of XML objects and vice-versa.
> 
> It seems that the explanation is fairly simple. See the answer in the following link:
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2620270/what-is-the-difference-between-json-and-xml
> 
> Now you can rest easy. ;-)
> 
> Jim 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  7 21:39:01 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 20:39:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] What are the difference
In-Reply-To: <0D3C023F-470C-4F9E-B580-425CB7821C9F@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <961355461.4295067.1391830741960.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Hans:

That makes obvious sense. I think JASON is taking over but when I took a year long web ECommerce course, XML was the only format taught. I think JASON was still yet to come into its own.

As for Big Data databases, as far as I know, all respond in JASON data sets which of course makes sense if the GUI is HTML.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 4:08:25 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What are the difference

The top comment is missing the most blindingly obvious reason why you would use JSON over XML - and it's right in the name.

JSON = JavaScript Object Notation (the big clue here is JavaScript!)

This is how you write JavaScript objects, because JSON is a subset of JS. JSON was introduced as a way of providing data (server to client) in a format that he browser/JavaScript didn't have to parse for rich web apps. It got more popular and has grown to be used in more environments simply because it is lighter and reads a lot easier than XML (good lord, reading large XML documents can sometimes be a nightmare. Don't use XML for configuration! :) ).

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


> On 7 Feb 2014, at 14:07, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> I have often wondered what the differences and the reasons why someone would use JASON objects instead of XML objects and vice-versa.
> 
> It seems that the explanation is fairly simple. See the answer in the following link:
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2620270/what-is-the-difference-between-json-and-xml
> 
> Now you can rest easy. ;-)
> 
> Jim 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  7 23:39:52 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 22:39:52 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Super JavaScript graphing tools
In-Reply-To: <961355461.4295067.1391830741960.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1817325979.4343779.1391837992016.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Creating and retrieving data is one thing but then how do you represent it. First assumption is that the data must be displayed in a browser. To that end here is a simple example taken from the new D3 graphic display engine. It has numerous very powerful functions.

http://d3js.org 

This system can retrieve and display data from graphic storage, CVS files and JASON files. Check out the following simple example: (This is one of dozens of working examples.) 

<store the text file listed below in an index.html file and run it...>

<!DOCTYPE html>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<style>

body {
  margin: 0;
}

.map {
  position: relative;
  overflow: hidden;
}

.layer {
  position: absolute;
}

.tile {
  pointer-events: none;
  position: absolute;
  width: 256px;
  height: 256px;
}

.info {
  position: absolute;
  bottom: 10px;
  left: 10px;
}

</style>

<body>
<script src="http://d3js.org/d3.v3.min.js"></script>
<script src="http://d3js.org/d3.geo.tile.v0.min.js"></script>
<script>

var width = Math.max(960, window.innerWidth),
    height = Math.max(500, window.innerHeight),
    prefix = prefixMatch(["webkit", "ms", "Moz", "O"]);

var tile = d3.geo.tile()
    .size([width, height]);

var projection = d3.geo.mercator();

var zoom = d3.behavior.zoom()
    .scale(1 << 12)
    .scaleExtent([1 << 9, 1 << 23])
    .translate([width / 2, height / 2])
    .on("zoom", zoomed);

var map = d3.select("body").append("div")
    .attr("class", "map")
    .style("width", width + "px")
    .style("height", height + "px")
    .call(zoom)
    .on("mousemove", mousemoved);

var layer = map.append("div")
    .attr("class", "layer");

var info = map.append("div")
    .attr("class", "info");

zoomed();

function zoomed() {
  var tiles = tile
      .scale(zoom.scale())
      .translate(zoom.translate())
      ();

  projection
      .scale(zoom.scale() / 2 / Math.PI)
      .translate(zoom.translate());

  var image = layer
      .style(prefix + "transform", matrix3d(tiles.scale, tiles.translate))
    .selectAll(".tile")
      .data(tiles, function(d) { return d; });

  image.exit()
      .remove();

  image.enter().append("img")
      .attr("class", "tile")
      .attr("src", function(d) { return "http://" + ["a", "b", "c", "d"][Math.random() * 4 | 0] + ".tiles.mapbox.com/v3/examples.map-vyofok3q/" + d[2] + "/" + d[0] + "/" + d[1] + ".png"; })
      .style("left", function(d) { return (d[0] << 8) + "px"; })
      .style("top", function(d) { return (d[1] << 8) + "px"; });
}

function mousemoved() {
  info.text(formatLocation(projection.invert(d3.mouse(this)), zoom.scale()));
}

function matrix3d(scale, translate) {
  var k = scale / 256, r = scale % 1 ? Number : Math.round;
  return "matrix3d(" + [k, 0, 0, 0, 0, k, 0, 0, 0, 0, k, 0, r(translate[0] * scale), r(translate[1] * scale), 0, 1 ] + ")";
}

function prefixMatch(p) {
  var i = -1, n = p.length, s = document.body.style;
  while (++i < n) if (p[i] + "Transform" in s) return "-" + p[i].toLowerCase() + "-";
  return "";
}

function formatLocation(p, k) {
  var format = d3.format("." + Math.floor(Math.log(k) / 2 - 2) + "f");
  return (p[1] < 0 ? format(-p[1]) + "?S" : format(p[1]) + "?N") + " "
       + (p[0] < 0 ? format(-p[0]) + "?W" : format(p[0]) + "?E");
}

</script>

</store the text file lists above in a index.html file and run it...> 

Note: Use the scroll wheel on your mouse to zoom in and out. (I would tend to place the JS scripts in the header or in its own js library and the style code in it own css library but for simplicity sake this example is excellent.)

Jim


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  8 11:36:08 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:36:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g8iK-1jHnTcrurf9R_CD6TfdSDfPYPPPuLD-ja46beEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen to
podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  8 11:48:43 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 10:48:43 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g8iK-1jHnTcrurf9R_CD6TfdSDfPYPPPuLD-ja46beEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1186173528.4639952.1391881723782.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

Are we talking Windows or Linux?

On Linux I like listening to podcast, music and radio stations via a application called Banshee (there may be a Windows version I just have never looked). Of course there is always iTunes that runs on everything.

PS Just happen to be looking at the results of importing MS Access into LibreOffice Base...no programs other than macros but not bad.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e8/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf

Jim

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 9:36:08 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts

Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen to
podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?

-- 
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  8 12:04:33 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 13:04:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <1186173528.4639952.1391881723782.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAEPJO1g8iK-1jHnTcrurf9R_CD6TfdSDfPYPPPuLD-ja46beEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1186173528.4639952.1391881723782.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h1FZVZSrawqkj6D1LZ-MmnUM9KvJtW2ryOYY+EeXDMzw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Jim.

Most often when I'm at my computer I'm running Ubuntu as a VirtualBox VM
and Win 8.1 as the main system, so I take either suggested path. I think
that I'll try both and see which I prefer.

I shall also have a look at your link to the Base Handbook. As it happens,
I'm doing an app on a volunteer basis, and at the same time trying to
convert the non-profit client from WinXP to Linux, and so far the missing
piece has been a replacement for Access. I'll have a look at your link and
see if it's up to scratch (I've written a couple of apps for the
organazation, for free, and used Access RunTime to deploy them. In Access I
seldom if ever use macros but maybe I can get past that, and port/deploy
them to Base instead. That would be truly ideal. IMO, the less a non-profit
depends on MS, the better off they'll be.

Arthur


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Are we talking Windows or Linux?
>
> On Linux I like listening to podcast, music and radio stations via a
> application called Banshee (there may be a Windows version I just have
> never looked). Of course there is always iTunes that runs on everything.
>
> PS Just happen to be looking at the results of importing MS Access into
> LibreOffice Base...no programs other than macros but not bad.
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e8/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf
>
> Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  8 12:25:27 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 11:25:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1h1FZVZSrawqkj6D1LZ-MmnUM9KvJtW2ryOYY+EeXDMzw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1689542312.4666748.1391883927795.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

You can always install MS Access on your Linux box using Wine. I have found you have to move some of the DLLs around as Access will get confused...ofcourse it depends the version you are installing.

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12

Sometimes you have to shuffle things around but some quick tests I have done have worked quite well...most of my new learning and development work centers around web based options.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:04:33 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts

Thanks, Jim.

Most often when I'm at my computer I'm running Ubuntu as a VirtualBox VM
and Win 8.1 as the main system, so I take either suggested path. I think
that I'll try both and see which I prefer.

I shall also have a look at your link to the Base Handbook. As it happens,
I'm doing an app on a volunteer basis, and at the same time trying to
convert the non-profit client from WinXP to Linux, and so far the missing
piece has been a replacement for Access. I'll have a look at your link and
see if it's up to scratch (I've written a couple of apps for the
organazation, for free, and used Access RunTime to deploy them. In Access I
seldom if ever use macros but maybe I can get past that, and port/deploy
them to Base instead. That would be truly ideal. IMO, the less a non-profit
depends on MS, the better off they'll be.

Arthur


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Are we talking Windows or Linux?
>
> On Linux I like listening to podcast, music and radio stations via a
> application called Banshee (there may be a Windows version I just have
> never looked). Of course there is always iTunes that runs on everything.
>
> PS Just happen to be looking at the results of importing MS Access into
> LibreOffice Base...no programs other than macros but not bad.
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e8/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf
>
> Jim
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From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Sat Feb  8 12:35:23 2014
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 10:35:23 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g8iK-1jHnTcrurf9R_CD6TfdSDfPYPPPuLD-ja46beEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1g8iK-1jHnTcrurf9R_CD6TfdSDfPYPPPuLD-ja46beEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C74A37ED-A998-4F68-B8E4-DEFC5BEAC3EE@phulse.com>

Hi Arthur,

What you are looking is software called podcatchers. There are a few good open source ones, but probably the best all rounder is iTunes. If not iTunes and you want open source, another one is Juice receiver. http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


> On 8 Feb 2014, at 09:36, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen to
> podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  8 12:58:45 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 11:58:45 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <C74A37ED-A998-4F68-B8E4-DEFC5BEAC3EE@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <1109935999.4686431.1391885925949.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Hans:

Note, that there is not yet a Linux version of the Juice...

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:35:23 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts

Hi Arthur,

What you are looking is software called podcatchers. There are a few good open source ones, but probably the best all rounder is iTunes. If not iTunes and you want open source, another one is Juice receiver. http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


> On 8 Feb 2014, at 09:36, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen to
> podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  8 13:05:03 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:05:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <1109935999.4686431.1391885925949.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1779890139.4690596.1391886303603.JavaMail.root@cds002>

PS: http://banshee.fm

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:58:45 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts

Hi Hans:

Note, that there is not yet a Linux version of the Juice...

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:35:23 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts

Hi Arthur,

What you are looking is software called podcatchers. There are a few good open source ones, but probably the best all rounder is iTunes. If not iTunes and you want open source, another one is Juice receiver. http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


> On 8 Feb 2014, at 09:36, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen to
> podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  8 13:11:22 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 14:11:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <1779890139.4690596.1391886303603.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1109935999.4686431.1391885925949.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<1779890139.4690596.1391886303603.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iZ+3q0QTuE+kDHsBzqW3q23X+RMssDV_TXzMrCBhXrVA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to you both, Hans-Christian and Jim. I shall give both a whirl, and
at the end of the month I shall have enough loot to fix my aging desktop
and convert it to dedicated Linux. In the meanwhile, I have to content
myself with a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM but I can make do with that.

I also need to explore Wine, which thus far I have stayed away from. It's
time I learned something new. There's still tomorrow left in this weekend
so maybe now is the time.

Thanks again,
Arthur


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> PS: http://banshee.fm
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:58:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
>
> Hi Hans:
>
> Note, that there is not yet a Linux version of the Juice...
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:35:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
>
> Hi Arthur,
>
> What you are looking is software called podcatchers. There are a few good
> open source ones, but probably the best all rounder is iTunes. If not
> iTunes and you want open source, another one is Juice receiver.
> http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net
>
> Best regards,
> Hans-Christian Andersen
>
>
> > On 8 Feb 2014, at 09:36, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen to
> > podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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-- 
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Feb  8 13:25:32 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 14:25:32 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jZAsF2kBjpybOZ1_vgHQjjbA_Pvu6RWf3dKKMywfKnHg@mail.gmail.com>

My fave local vendor sells two varieties of 25' HDMI cables. I need one of
these, so I won't have to move my laptop from its comfortable position on
my desk. One HDMI cable is $17.99 and the other so-called Premium HDMI
cable costs almost twice that. What would I be obtaining for taking the
extra-expenseive route?

As the crow flies, the distance is more than 2 meters but substantially
less than 10 meters. The former, while cheaper, involves decoupling a bunch
of USB stuff and then moving the laptop closer to the TV. The latter
involves DuckTaping the cable to the baseboards so no one can trip on it --
a preferred solution, but that still leaves the other dilemma. What is
meant by "Premium HDMI cable"? Gold sockets? Something else? Should I
choose low-budget HDMI 25' cable or the higher-priced and allegedly
"premium" cable?

I've also read various brochures about HDMI spliters. My two HDMI
requirements are a Blu-ray player and my net connection to NetFlix. Is this
config what a splitter is for? And if so, how do I distinguish the two
sources? Frankly I'm ok with swapping the inputs, depending on whether I
want to watch a DVD or a stream from NetFlix, but all this is so confusing
to an old man who once lived on the bleeding edge but now feels so far
behind the edge that I have no idea what I'm doing.

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Feb  8 13:46:05 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 11:46:05 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jZAsF2kBjpybOZ1_vgHQjjbA_Pvu6RWf3dKKMywfKnHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jZAsF2kBjpybOZ1_vgHQjjbA_Pvu6RWf3dKKMywfKnHg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D44E6E0C372C446E91D5F26D7F35DD7D@HAL9007>

http://www.mediacollege.com/hardware/connectivity/hdmi/premium-cable.html


HTH

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 11:26 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality

My fave local vendor sells two varieties of 25' HDMI cables. I need one of
these, so I won't have to move my laptop from its comfortable position on my
desk. One HDMI cable is $17.99 and the other so-called Premium HDMI cable
costs almost twice that. What would I be obtaining for taking the
extra-expenseive route?

As the crow flies, the distance is more than 2 meters but substantially less
than 10 meters. The former, while cheaper, involves decoupling a bunch of
USB stuff and then moving the laptop closer to the TV. The latter involves
DuckTaping the cable to the baseboards so no one can trip on it -- a
preferred solution, but that still leaves the other dilemma. What is meant
by "Premium HDMI cable"? Gold sockets? Something else? Should I choose
low-budget HDMI 25' cable or the higher-priced and allegedly "premium"
cable?

I've also read various brochures about HDMI spliters. My two HDMI
requirements are a Blu-ray player and my net connection to NetFlix. Is this
config what a splitter is for? And if so, how do I distinguish the two
sources? Frankly I'm ok with swapping the inputs, depending on whether I
want to watch a DVD or a stream from NetFlix, but all this is so confusing
to an old man who once lived on the bleeding edge but now feels so far
behind the edge that I have no idea what I'm doing.

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  8 18:11:21 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 17:11:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jZAsF2kBjpybOZ1_vgHQjjbA_Pvu6RWf3dKKMywfKnHg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1412540269.4844678.1391904681342.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

There is a new product called Airtame (http://airtame.com) that will allow you to connect to your TV or even another computer with no cables. The pre-order price is $99.00 so it is not a cheap solution but it would be a final solution.

There are a number of routers that have HDMI connector...prices vary. 

One reason to go with a Smart TV. They have built in WiFi and a LAN adapter, at the back (HDMI as well).

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:25:32 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality

My fave local vendor sells two varieties of 25' HDMI cables. I need one of
these, so I won't have to move my laptop from its comfortable position on
my desk. One HDMI cable is $17.99 and the other so-called Premium HDMI
cable costs almost twice that. What would I be obtaining for taking the
extra-expenseive route?

As the crow flies, the distance is more than 2 meters but substantially
less than 10 meters. The former, while cheaper, involves decoupling a bunch
of USB stuff and then moving the laptop closer to the TV. The latter
involves DuckTaping the cable to the baseboards so no one can trip on it --
a preferred solution, but that still leaves the other dilemma. What is
meant by "Premium HDMI cable"? Gold sockets? Something else? Should I
choose low-budget HDMI 25' cable or the higher-priced and allegedly
"premium" cable?

I've also read various brochures about HDMI spliters. My two HDMI
requirements are a Blu-ray player and my net connection to NetFlix. Is this
config what a splitter is for? And if so, how do I distinguish the two
sources? Frankly I'm ok with swapping the inputs, depending on whether I
want to watch a DVD or a stream from NetFlix, but all this is so confusing
to an old man who once lived on the bleeding edge but now feels so far
behind the edge that I have no idea what I'm doing.

-- 
Arthur
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Feb  8 18:23:42 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 18:23:42 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality
In-Reply-To: <1412540269.4844678.1391904681342.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1412540269.4844678.1391904681342.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <52F6CA8E.5010000@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-08 6:11 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Arthur:
>
> There is a new product called Airtame (http://airtame.com) that will allow you to connect to your TV or even another computer with no cables. The pre-order price is $99.00 so it is not a cheap solution but it would be a final solution.
>
> There are a number of routers that have HDMI connector...prices vary.
>
> One reason to go with a Smart TV. They have built in WiFi and a LAN adapter, at the back (HDMI as well).

A better solution IMO is a "home theatre" receiver with SOTA sound (eg 
Denon or Onkyo) and all imaginable connectivities including multiple 
HDMI, optical &c, can be had for $300-500.

PB

-----

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:25:32 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality
>
> My fave local vendor sells two varieties of 25' HDMI cables. I need one of
> these, so I won't have to move my laptop from its comfortable position on
> my desk. One HDMI cable is $17.99 and the other so-called Premium HDMI
> cable costs almost twice that. What would I be obtaining for taking the
> extra-expenseive route?
>
> As the crow flies, the distance is more than 2 meters but substantially
> less than 10 meters. The former, while cheaper, involves decoupling a bunch
> of USB stuff and then moving the laptop closer to the TV. The latter
> involves DuckTaping the cable to the baseboards so no one can trip on it --
> a preferred solution, but that still leaves the other dilemma. What is
> meant by "Premium HDMI cable"? Gold sockets? Something else? Should I
> choose low-budget HDMI 25' cable or the higher-priced and allegedly
> "premium" cable?
>
> I've also read various brochures about HDMI spliters. My two HDMI
> requirements are a Blu-ray player and my net connection to NetFlix. Is this
> config what a splitter is for? And if so, how do I distinguish the two
> sources? Frankly I'm ok with swapping the inputs, depending on whether I
> want to watch a DVD or a stream from NetFlix, but all this is so confusing
> to an old man who once lived on the bleeding edge but now feels so far
> behind the edge that I have no idea what I'm doing.
>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  8 22:52:31 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 21:52:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality
In-Reply-To: <52F6CA8E.5010000@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1304797239.4945516.1391921551632.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Peter:

Now you are talking. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:23:42 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality

On 2014-02-08 6:11 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Arthur:
>
> There is a new product called Airtame (http://airtame.com) that will allow you to connect to your TV or even another computer with no cables. The pre-order price is $99.00 so it is not a cheap solution but it would be a final solution.
>
> There are a number of routers that have HDMI connector...prices vary.
>
> One reason to go with a Smart TV. They have built in WiFi and a LAN adapter, at the back (HDMI as well).

A better solution IMO is a "home theatre" receiver with SOTA sound (eg 
Denon or Onkyo) and all imaginable connectivities including multiple 
HDMI, optical &c, can be had for $300-500.

PB

-----

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:25:32 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality
>
> My fave local vendor sells two varieties of 25' HDMI cables. I need one of
> these, so I won't have to move my laptop from its comfortable position on
> my desk. One HDMI cable is $17.99 and the other so-called Premium HDMI
> cable costs almost twice that. What would I be obtaining for taking the
> extra-expenseive route?
>
> As the crow flies, the distance is more than 2 meters but substantially
> less than 10 meters. The former, while cheaper, involves decoupling a bunch
> of USB stuff and then moving the laptop closer to the TV. The latter
> involves DuckTaping the cable to the baseboards so no one can trip on it --
> a preferred solution, but that still leaves the other dilemma. What is
> meant by "Premium HDMI cable"? Gold sockets? Something else? Should I
> choose low-budget HDMI 25' cable or the higher-priced and allegedly
> "premium" cable?
>
> I've also read various brochures about HDMI spliters. My two HDMI
> requirements are a Blu-ray player and my net connection to NetFlix. Is this
> config what a splitter is for? And if so, how do I distinguish the two
> sources? Frankly I'm ok with swapping the inputs, depending on whether I
> want to watch a DVD or a stream from NetFlix, but all this is so confusing
> to an old man who once lived on the bleeding edge but now feels so far
> behind the edge that I have no idea what I'm doing.
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  8 23:43:21 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 22:43:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The fastest search
In-Reply-To: <1412540269.4844678.1391904681342.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <544737027.4962408.1391924601909.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Here is a basic search and data retrieval engine/database called Elasticsearch.

http://www.elasticsearch.org/webinars/getting-started-with-elasticsearch/?watch=1

(You may have to give your name and email but it is not serious details. The video is a little slow to get started but once the preamble is finished...) I understand that the product runs on both Linux and Windows. 

The above will show you a little sample of how the system works and if you need curl; it comes in both Linux and Windows versions: http://curl.haxx.se/dlwiz
  
Its capabilities are rather incredible. Like other NoSQL map reduce it is designed as a data store with no schema; you just write your own in code. Rows are called documents as a row can have 30,000 plus columns and though in theory all the data can be free-form it rarely is. What gives this system its incredible performance is that it indexes its entire data store, whether it is just a single directory, an entire hard drive or with the help of a Hadoop framework, a cluster of drives in the hundreds.

http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/hadoop 

Hadoop comes along with a host of related products, database managers, programming environments and so on. 
 
Once the product is installed on your computer, the indexing process runs as a service keeping the data stores always current. The indexing process is fast as according to the documentation, given the appropriate hardware, it could index a one TB drive in a little over 90 seconds.

To search the data it uses a JSON type object request and returns the results in JSON format, suitable for further processing and display...like with D3: http://d3js.org

The Elastic Search product is fully OSS but there are a number of related products that are sold as network services. One product specializes in displaying summaries of active system logs in real-time. 

As a database it does not have the structure of a real SQL DB (I would never use an ES type product for invoicing) but it bypasses the limitations of SQL, like changing data structures, multiple joins and multiple indexes...in data summaries operation, it just can not be beat.

Jim  

    

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Feb  9 04:34:20 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 05:34:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] HDMI cable quality
In-Reply-To: <1304797239.4945516.1391921551632.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <52F6CA8E.5010000@earthlink.net>
	<1304797239.4945516.1391921551632.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jL8jGjXLtvC5N4OeK=DPT-3_yW1=QrXBqh07vkxsB1ig@mail.gmail.com>

While your solutions sound promising, they are way out of my price range.
The sad part of being retired. I think that I'll stick with the 25 foot
HDMI cable and swap it in and out of the HDMI connector to my TV (the other
connection is to my Blu-ray player, which I haven't yet used, but my
brother has a few Blu-ray discs that he has promised to bring over; I have
a Blu-ray burner and a stack of blank discs, so I'm poised to commit some
copyright violations LOL).

Arthur

From marklbreen at gmail.com  Mon Feb 10 02:57:32 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:57:32 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iZ+3q0QTuE+kDHsBzqW3q23X+RMssDV_TXzMrCBhXrVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1109935999.4686431.1391885925949.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<1779890139.4690596.1391886303603.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1iZ+3q0QTuE+kDHsBzqW3q23X+RMssDV_TXzMrCBhXrVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTChTeWz7us9eO9-PXwDOWPGiAPr1cOae=tWUBRXP0=HWjg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Arthur,,

>>It's time I learned something new.

Seems to me that you put us all to shame by learning something new every
week.


:)
Mark




On 8 February 2014 19:11, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to you both, Hans-Christian and Jim. I shall give both a whirl, and
> at the end of the month I shall have enough loot to fix my aging desktop
> and convert it to dedicated Linux. In the meanwhile, I have to content
> myself with a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM but I can make do with that.
>
> I also need to explore Wine, which thus far I have stayed away from. It's
> time I learned something new. There's still tomorrow left in this weekend
> so maybe now is the time.
>
> Thanks again,
> Arthur
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > PS: http://banshee.fm
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:58:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
> >
> > Hi Hans:
> >
> > Note, that there is not yet a Linux version of the Juice...
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:35:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
> >
> > Hi Arthur,
> >
> > What you are looking is software called podcatchers. There are a few good
> > open source ones, but probably the best all rounder is iTunes. If not
> > iTunes and you want open source, another one is Juice receiver.
> > http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Hans-Christian Andersen
> >
> >
> > > On 8 Feb 2014, at 09:36, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen
> to
> > > podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Arthur
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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> >
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>
>
>
> --
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Feb 10 03:17:33 2014
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:17:33 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTChTeWz7us9eO9-PXwDOWPGiAPr1cOae=tWUBRXP0=HWjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1109935999.4686431.1391885925949.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<1779890139.4690596.1391886303603.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1iZ+3q0QTuE+kDHsBzqW3q23X+RMssDV_TXzMrCBhXrVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGXtTChTeWz7us9eO9-PXwDOWPGiAPr1cOae=tWUBRXP0=HWjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9F5EB2D5-60DC-4671-9057-0960DD9FCAD8@qub.ac.uk>

Morning Mark

Just on my way to Dublin, meeting in trinity. Hopefully get some time for a walk around later

Martin



Sent from my iPad

> On 10 Feb 2014, at 08:58, "Mark Breen" <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Arthur,,
> 
>>> It's time I learned something new.
> 
> Seems to me that you put us all to shame by learning something new every
> week.
> 
> 
> :)
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 February 2014 19:11, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to you both, Hans-Christian and Jim. I shall give both a whirl, and
>> at the end of the month I shall have enough loot to fix my aging desktop
>> and convert it to dedicated Linux. In the meanwhile, I have to content
>> myself with a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM but I can make do with that.
>> 
>> I also need to explore Wine, which thus far I have stayed away from. It's
>> time I learned something new. There's still tomorrow left in this weekend
>> so maybe now is the time.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> Arthur
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> PS: http://banshee.fm
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
>>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:58:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
>>> 
>>> Hi Hans:
>>> 
>>> Note, that there is not yet a Linux version of the Juice...
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
>>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:35:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
>>> 
>>> Hi Arthur,
>>> 
>>> What you are looking is software called podcatchers. There are a few good
>>> open source ones, but probably the best all rounder is iTunes. If not
>>> iTunes and you want open source, another one is Juice receiver.
>>> http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Hans-Christian Andersen
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8 Feb 2014, at 09:36, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen
>> to
>>>> podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Arthur
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Arthur
>> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 10 12:56:44 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:56:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins
In-Reply-To: <544737027.4962408.1391924601909.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <990385517.6027857.1392058604866.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Here is a odd site that has translated BitCoin transactions into music. 

http://www.bitlisten.com

Check out celesta and plant instrument type. Me thinks some people have too much time on the hands. ;-)

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 10 13:35:18 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:35:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] More on Bitcoin
In-Reply-To: <544737027.4962408.1391924601909.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1668108999.6066828.1392060918081.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Russia has now officially banned Bitcoin and all similar currencies. Like China they fear the competition and feel it is a threat to their sovereignty. As a result it took a major hit but just like when China did the same the stock recovered within two weeks.

http://coinmarketcap.com/btc_180.html

Bitcoin may be a currency but is not unlike a stock so its value goes up and down. The US postal service along with Western Union is planning on supporting the product. You would bring money to them, they would purchase and transfer the money in Bitcoins and in two minute, or less, an equal amount of a local tender would be created from the Bitcoin sale and the remote business or individual could quickly be in receipt. In this method there is virtually no overhead or danger of loss.

Bitcoin is no longer a single venture, that mathematical genius, Satoshi Nakamoto created, but now it has been used to create dozens of similar "currencies/stocks":

http://coinmarketcap.com

I have no financial interest in the goings on of the Bitcoin market but I note that there is potentially  hundreds of billions that will be invested, far more revenue than most countries in the world and I wonder if full adoption may seriously under mine all other tenders?

Jim   
         

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb 10 13:58:38 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:58:38 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins
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So I've got it playing and it's really restful - reminds me of the
background music that's playing when I get a massage.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

Hi All:

Here is a odd site that has translated BitCoin transactions into music. 

http://www.bitlisten.com

Check out celesta and plant instrument type. Me thinks some people have too
much time on the hands. ;-)

Jim
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Mon Feb 10 14:23:04 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 00:23:04 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?More_on_Bitcoin?=
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 Hi Jim --

>>>?Like China they fear the competition
Russia(n citizens) do not fear the competition, Russian officials do.

Do you feel the difference? ;)

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Monday, February 10, 2014 12:35 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi All:
>
>Russia has now officially banned Bitcoin and all similar currencies. Like China they fear the competition and feel it is a threat to their sovereignty. As a result it took a major hit but just like when China did the same the stock recovered within two weeks.
>
>http://coinmarketcap.com/btc_180.html
>
>Bitcoin may be a currency but is not unlike a stock so its value goes up and down. The US postal service along with Western Union is planning on supporting the product. You would bring money to them, they would purchase and transfer the money in Bitcoins and in two minute, or less, an equal amount of a local tender would be created from the Bitcoin sale and the remote business or individual could quickly be in receipt. In this method there is virtually no overhead or danger of loss.
>
>Bitcoin is no longer a single venture, that mathematical genius, Satoshi Nakamoto created, but now it has been used to create dozens of similar "currencies/stocks":
>
>http://coinmarketcap.com
>
>I have no financial interest in the goings on of the Bitcoin market but I note that there is potentially  hundreds of billions that will be invested, far more revenue than most countries in the world and I wonder if full adoption may seriously under mine all other tenders?
>
>Jim 
>


From marklbreen at gmail.com  Mon Feb 10 14:55:20 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:55:20 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <9F5EB2D5-60DC-4671-9057-0960DD9FCAD8@qub.ac.uk>
References: <1109935999.4686431.1391885925949.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<1779890139.4690596.1391886303603.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1iZ+3q0QTuE+kDHsBzqW3q23X+RMssDV_TXzMrCBhXrVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGXtTChTeWz7us9eO9-PXwDOWPGiAPr1cOae=tWUBRXP0=HWjg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Martin

oh that is a pity, would love to meet up and have a coffee or beer some
time,

we are only communicating 12 years or more, we have plenty of time I guess
:)

Next time perhaps ?



Mark




On 10 February 2014 09:17, Martin Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:

> Morning Mark
>
> Just on my way to Dublin, meeting in trinity. Hopefully get some time for
> a walk around later
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 10 Feb 2014, at 08:58, "Mark Breen" <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Arthur,,
> >
> >>> It's time I learned something new.
> >
> > Seems to me that you put us all to shame by learning something new every
> > week.
> >
> >
> > :)
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 8 February 2014 19:11, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks to you both, Hans-Christian and Jim. I shall give both a whirl,
> and
> >> at the end of the month I shall have enough loot to fix my aging desktop
> >> and convert it to dedicated Linux. In the meanwhile, I have to content
> >> myself with a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM but I can make do with that.
> >>
> >> I also need to explore Wine, which thus far I have stayed away from.
> It's
> >> time I learned something new. There's still tomorrow left in this
> weekend
> >> so maybe now is the time.
> >>
> >> Thanks again,
> >> Arthur
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> PS: http://banshee.fm
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> >>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> >>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:58:45 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
> >>>
> >>> Hi Hans:
> >>>
> >>> Note, that there is not yet a Linux version of the Juice...
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
> >>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> >>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:35:23 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
> >>>
> >>> Hi Arthur,
> >>>
> >>> What you are looking is software called podcatchers. There are a few
> good
> >>> open source ones, but probably the best all rounder is iTunes. If not
> >>> iTunes and you want open source, another one is Juice receiver.
> >>> http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Hans-Christian Andersen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 8 Feb 2014, at 09:36, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen
> >> to
> >>>> podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Arthur
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> dba-Tech mailing list
> >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> dba-Tech mailing list
> >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Feb 10 14:57:31 2014
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:57:31 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCjre71sGuGhLmBszhe3BYjZM_8Pe2PZ_ZqUNoqiJX4Tzg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1109935999.4686431.1391885925949.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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Absolutely Mark. Back home in cold Belfast now but nice day in Dublin.

Martin

Sent from my iPad

> On 10 Feb 2014, at 20:56, "Mark Breen" <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Martin
> 
> oh that is a pity, would love to meet up and have a coffee or beer some
> time,
> 
> we are only communicating 12 years or more, we have plenty of time I guess
> :)
> 
> Next time perhaps ?
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 February 2014 09:17, Martin Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Morning Mark
>> 
>> Just on my way to Dublin, meeting in trinity. Hopefully get some time for
>> a walk around later
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 10 Feb 2014, at 08:58, "Mark Breen" <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Arthur,,
>>> 
>>>>> It's time I learned something new.
>>> 
>>> Seems to me that you put us all to shame by learning something new every
>>> week.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8 February 2014 19:11, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks to you both, Hans-Christian and Jim. I shall give both a whirl,
>> and
>>>> at the end of the month I shall have enough loot to fix my aging desktop
>>>> and convert it to dedicated Linux. In the meanwhile, I have to content
>>>> myself with a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM but I can make do with that.
>>>> 
>>>> I also need to explore Wine, which thus far I have stayed away from.
>> It's
>>>> time I learned something new. There's still tomorrow left in this
>> weekend
>>>> so maybe now is the time.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Arthur
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS: http://banshee.fm
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
>>>>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:58:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Hans:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note, that there is not yet a Linux version of the Juice...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
>>>>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:35:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question about Podcasts
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Arthur,
>>>>> 
>>>>> What you are looking is software called podcatchers. There are a few
>> good
>>>>> open source ones, but probably the best all rounder is iTunes. If not
>>>>> iTunes and you want open source, another one is Juice receiver.
>>>>> http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Hans-Christian Andersen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8 Feb 2014, at 09:36, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Having no smart phone etc, just PCs, my question is this: can I listen
>>>> to
>>>>>> podcasts on my PC. Do I need some special software to do so?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Arthur
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Arthur
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 10 17:18:51 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:18:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins
In-Reply-To: <7BD4C12FC2C2495A8C3F10EAA8E7DA53@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <662874813.6312189.1392074331214.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Rocky:

It is nice isn't it... 

So can you not say that money isn't music to your ears...thousands of little and big transactions going on day and night from all over the world.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:58:38 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

So I've got it playing and it's really restful - reminds me of the
background music that's playing when I get a massage.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

Hi All:

Here is a odd site that has translated BitCoin transactions into music. 

http://www.bitlisten.com

Check out celesta and plant instrument type. Me thinks some people have too
much time on the hands. ;-)

Jim
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb 10 17:49:11 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:49:11 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins
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References: <7BD4C12FC2C2495A8C3F10EAA8E7DA53@HAL9007>
	<662874813.6312189.1392074331214.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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And I saw a couple that crossed the wire at more than $1,000,000US.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 3:19 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

Hi Rocky:

It is nice isn't it... 

So can you not say that money isn't music to your ears...thousands of little
and big transactions going on day and night from all over the world.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:58:38 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

So I've got it playing and it's really restful - reminds me of the
background music that's playing when I get a massage.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

Hi All:

Here is a odd site that has translated BitCoin transactions into music. 

http://www.bitlisten.com

Check out celesta and plant instrument type. Me thinks some people have too
much time on the hands. ;-)

Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 10 17:50:05 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:50:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] More on Bitcoin
In-Reply-To: <1392063784.663034120@f190.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <570844099.6338516.1392076205479.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

Ha ha ha...could have written that better...on the road to one world digital currency, with no government and bankster interference is going to be a bumpy ride. Governments will go ballistic first I would suspect. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:23:04 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] More on Bitcoin

 Hi Jim --

>>>?Like China they fear the competition
Russia(n citizens) do not fear the competition, Russian officials do.

Do you feel the difference? ;)

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Monday, February 10, 2014 12:35 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi All:
>
>Russia has now officially banned Bitcoin and all similar currencies. Like China they fear the competition and feel it is a threat to their sovereignty. As a result it took a major hit but just like when China did the same the stock recovered within two weeks.
>
>http://coinmarketcap.com/btc_180.html
>
>Bitcoin may be a currency but is not unlike a stock so its value goes up and down. The US postal service along with Western Union is planning on supporting the product. You would bring money to them, they would purchase and transfer the money in Bitcoins and in two minute, or less, an equal amount of a local tender would be created from the Bitcoin sale and the remote business or individual could quickly be in receipt. In this method there is virtually no overhead or danger of loss.
>
>Bitcoin is no longer a single venture, that mathematical genius, Satoshi Nakamoto created, but now it has been used to create dozens of similar "currencies/stocks":
>
>http://coinmarketcap.com
>
>I have no financial interest in the goings on of the Bitcoin market but I note that there is potentially  hundreds of billions that will be invested, far more revenue than most countries in the world and I wonder if full adoption may seriously under mine all other tenders?
>
>Jim 
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 10 17:52:55 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:52:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins
In-Reply-To: <56D7E701A1394632917A55E315FAD5B4@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <1269311301.6341294.1392076375148.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Rocky:

1,000,000 here and 1,000.000 there and pretty soon it adds up to real money. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 3:49:11 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

And I saw a couple that crossed the wire at more than $1,000,000US.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 3:19 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

Hi Rocky:

It is nice isn't it... 

So can you not say that money isn't music to your ears...thousands of little
and big transactions going on day and night from all over the world.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:58:38 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

So I've got it playing and it's really restful - reminds me of the
background music that's playing when I get a massage.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Listen to Bitcoins

Hi All:

Here is a odd site that has translated BitCoin transactions into music. 

http://www.bitlisten.com

Check out celesta and plant instrument type. Me thinks some people have too
much time on the hands. ;-)

Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 10 18:13:05 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:13:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New way of searching
In-Reply-To: <1392063784.663034120@f190.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <115012126.6358243.1392077585944.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

There is a new way of searching the internet...It may not be that new but it is private and will not be having any ads, now and in the immediate future.

http://yacy.net/en/index.html

The code is fully OSS so a person could set up their own server: http://yacy.net/en/index.html ...if so inclined.

http://yacy.net/en/Screenshots.html

I have paid for an early copy of the RaspberryPi portable dongle version

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1455616350/yacypi-turnkey-raspberry-pi-based-internet-search

Jim

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Feb 11 00:38:04 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:38:04 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_Bill_Gates_Explains_His_New_Role_At_M?=
 =?utf-8?q?icrosoft=2C_Says_Nadella_Asked_Him_To_=E2=80=9CPitch_In?=
 =?utf-8?b?4oCd?=
Message-ID: <1392100684.290527402@f345.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

FYI: ?" Bill Gates Explains His New Role At Microsoft, Says Nadella Asked Him To ?Pitch In? "

http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/10/bill-gates-explains-his-new-role-at-microsoft-says-nadella-asked-him-to-pitch-in/

Does anybody remember a Microsoft Advertisement (sci-fi) movie, which AFAIKR was called "Microsoft 2004"?
I cannot remember its release date, was that 1997 or even before?
It was about 40-45 minutes long if I'm not mistaken.

In that movie (inspired by that time MS's CEO Bill Gates?) one can find how technologies (very similar to smart-phones, tablets and desktops) are used for everyday tasks such as 

- smart-phone driven bank money transfers, 
- using Internet to prepare presentation by a teenager on his PC, then move it into cloud and demonstrate in the college by using his smart-phone as projector;
- gaming, controller by smart-phone,
- etc.

That time I thought it should have taken quite a few years before that sci-fi ?movie came true. It's reality now.

Still, I can't understand how it happened that MS having such a true technology evolution vision in the end of 90-ies missed to get into the leaders of today's mobile market...

-- 
???????????? ??????

From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 11 04:06:41 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:06:41 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
Message-ID: <003f01cf2710$f61c17f0$e25447d0$@cactus.dk>

Hi all

A very recent attempt (still in beta) has been done for creating apps for
Windows 8: Microsoft Project Siena.
It's interesting as it focuses on retrieving and displaying data from remote
sources using methods that should be familiar to a power Excel user (no
Access here):

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/dn518139

The video is only a few minutes but gives a better impression of the tool
than the description. Of course, working with the examples is the better way
to go.
The generated code is claimed to be JavaScript and HTML5 so it should be
possible to customize.

The project is by itself a Windows App so you must run Windows 8+ to take
advantage of it.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 1. februar 2014 19:47
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

Shamil,

Of course not. Heavy lifting is always required. The trick with these
graphic programming tools is this: do they get out of the way when heavy
lifting is required, or are we trapped in their paradigm?

I often draw an analogy to this situation when it comes to team-programming.
Large parts of almost any custom app can be executed by novices. Small parts
of almost everything worth being paid for require skills. If you recall,
several years ago I hired you to perform some small bits of an app, for
which you had the expertise and I did not. That particular project involved
3 developers. A local junior programmer dealt with form and report creation.
I handled the middle bits, and hired you to write the Windows API stuff that
I didn't know how to do. It all went together in a smooth deliverable, and
an example of what I consider my (excuse the reference to this weekend's
Super Bowl) quarterbacking skills.
After all these years in this business, I know how to pass the ball, and to
whom to pass it, to get the job done.

Arthur

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 11 13:22:06 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:22:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_Bill_Gates_Explains_His_New_Role_At_M?=
 =?utf-8?q?icrosoft=2C_Says_Nadella_Asked_Him_To_=E2=80=9CPitch_In?=
 =?utf-8?b?4oCd?=
In-Reply-To: <1392100684.290527402@f345.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <648238097.7105568.1392146526388.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

In the computer world things always move ten times faster than any where else...

Have you seen the new prototype cell phone?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Polytron-Technologies-Transparent-Smartphone-Release-Date-Pictures,20766.html. It reminds me of a Microsoft mini-movie.

I would like to see Bill back...Microsoft needs him.  

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:38:04 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Bill Gates Explains His New Role At Microsoft, Says Nadella Asked Him To ?Pitch In?

 Hi All --

FYI: ?" Bill Gates Explains His New Role At Microsoft, Says Nadella Asked Him To ?Pitch In? "

http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/10/bill-gates-explains-his-new-role-at-microsoft-says-nadella-asked-him-to-pitch-in/

Does anybody remember a Microsoft Advertisement (sci-fi) movie, which AFAIKR was called "Microsoft 2004"?
I cannot remember its release date, was that 1997 or even before?
It was about 40-45 minutes long if I'm not mistaken.

In that movie (inspired by that time MS's CEO Bill Gates?) one can find how technologies (very similar to smart-phones, tablets and desktops) are used for everyday tasks such as 

- smart-phone driven bank money transfers, 
- using Internet to prepare presentation by a teenager on his PC, then move it into cloud and demonstrate in the college by using his smart-phone as projector;
- gaming, controller by smart-phone,
- etc.

That time I thought it should have taken quite a few years before that sci-fi ?movie came true. It's reality now.

Still, I can't understand how it happened that MS having such a true technology evolution vision in the end of 90-ies missed to get into the leaders of today's mobile market...

-- 
???????????? ??????
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Feb 11 17:47:33 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:47:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to tell if you're an old fart
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g=6cvnzG+f5g2k=GaVq-h1ggO=pC9ihSCAOFsP0KA5Ww@mail.gmail.com>

With apologies to Mr. Foxworthy...

You're an old fart if...

You need to switch to the large mouse cursor because you can't find the
small one on your dual monitor setup.

I made the switch and now I can find it readily. I recall from years back
that there was some variation that left a "trail" when you moved the mouse,
rather like the thing they tried in the NHL to make the game more friendly
to American eyes unused to the game; some sort of yellowish circle
emphasizing where the puck was.

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 11 17:54:08 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:54:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] ASP.Net
In-Reply-To: <648238097.7105568.1392146526388.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1001585336.7393828.1392162848798.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

I have been playing around with ASP.Net for years but confused by some of the recommended methods. Well, a lot of my concerns and some I have been using are all wrong. Why, does MS always try to go their own way regardless of what the standards are...

...But Microsoft seems to be trying to now follow the industry.

So for those that play with ASP.Net check the following out:

http://vimeo.com/68390507

Jim 

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Feb 11 17:55:46 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:55:46 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to tell if you're an old fart
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g=6cvnzG+f5g2k=GaVq-h1ggO=pC9ihSCAOFsP0KA5Ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1g=6cvnzG+f5g2k=GaVq-h1ggO=pC9ihSCAOFsP0KA5Ww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF23F837106E4280B8CDA3C8F1573978@HAL9007>

You don't want to see trails on your display.  What do you think this is -
the 60s?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:48 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to tell if you're an old fart

With apologies to Mr. Foxworthy...

You're an old fart if...

You need to switch to the large mouse cursor because you can't find the
small one on your dual monitor setup.

I made the switch and now I can find it readily. I recall from years back
that there was some variation that left a "trail" when you moved the mouse,
rather like the thing they tried in the NHL to make the game more friendly
to American eyes unused to the game; some sort of yellowish circle
emphasizing where the puck was.

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 11 18:01:55 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:01:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
In-Reply-To: <003f01cf2710$f61c17f0$e25447d0$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1205070579.7401596.1392163315019.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

Looks like a great product. Too bad it only appears to work in Windows and only in version Window 8x.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:06:41 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

Hi all

A very recent attempt (still in beta) has been done for creating apps for
Windows 8: Microsoft Project Siena.
It's interesting as it focuses on retrieving and displaying data from remote
sources using methods that should be familiar to a power Excel user (no
Access here):

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/dn518139

The video is only a few minutes but gives a better impression of the tool
than the description. Of course, working with the examples is the better way
to go.
The generated code is claimed to be JavaScript and HTML5 so it should be
possible to customize.

The project is by itself a Windows App so you must run Windows 8+ to take
advantage of it.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 1. februar 2014 19:47
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

Shamil,

Of course not. Heavy lifting is always required. The trick with these
graphic programming tools is this: do they get out of the way when heavy
lifting is required, or are we trapped in their paradigm?

I often draw an analogy to this situation when it comes to team-programming.
Large parts of almost any custom app can be executed by novices. Small parts
of almost everything worth being paid for require skills. If you recall,
several years ago I hired you to perform some small bits of an app, for
which you had the expertise and I did not. That particular project involved
3 developers. A local junior programmer dealt with form and report creation.
I handled the middle bits, and hired you to write the Windows API stuff that
I didn't know how to do. It all went together in a smooth deliverable, and
an example of what I consider my (excuse the reference to this weekend's
Super Bowl) quarterbacking skills.
After all these years in this business, I know how to pass the ball, and to
whom to pass it, to get the job done.

Arthur

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Feb 12 00:15:19 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:15:19 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?A_new_graphic_program_builder?=
In-Reply-To: <1205070579.7401596.1392163315019.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <003f01cf2710$f61c17f0$e25447d0$@cactus.dk>
	<1205070579.7401596.1392163315019.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1392185719.346985402@f152.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav and Jim --

Yes, it looks useful.
I have got installed it and played with it a few minutes.
When I have tried to save my sample app a sSiena Document locally I have got the app hanged.
Well, that's it beta.

-- Shamil

Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:01 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Gustav:
>
>Looks like a great product. Too bad it only appears to work in Windows and only in version Window 8x.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gustav Brock" < gustav at cactus.dk >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:06:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>Hi all
>
>A very recent attempt (still in beta) has been done for creating apps for
>Windows 8: Microsoft Project Siena.
>It's interesting as it focuses on retrieving and displaying data from remote
>sources using methods that should be familiar to a power Excel user (no
>Access here):
>
>???? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/dn518139
>
>The video is only a few minutes but gives a better impression of the tool
>than the description. Of course, working with the examples is the better way
>to go.
>The generated code is claimed to be JavaScript and HTML5 so it should be
>possible to customize.
>
>The project is by itself a Windows App so you must run Windows 8+ to take
>advantage of it.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
>Sendt: 1. februar 2014 19:47
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>Shamil,
>
>Of course not. Heavy lifting is always required. The trick with these
>graphic programming tools is this: do they get out of the way when heavy
>lifting is required, or are we trapped in their paradigm?
>
>I often draw an analogy to this situation when it comes to team-programming.
>Large parts of almost any custom app can be executed by novices. Small parts
>of almost everything worth being paid for require skills. If you recall,
>several years ago I hired you to perform some small bits of an app, for
>which you had the expertise and I did not. That particular project involved
>3 developers. A local junior programmer dealt with form and report creation.
>I handled the middle bits, and hired you to write the Windows API stuff that
>I didn't know how to do. It all went together in a smooth deliverable, and
>an example of what I consider my (excuse the reference to this weekend's
>Super Bowl) quarterbacking skills.
>After all these years in this business, I know how to pass the ball, and to
>whom to pass it, to get the job done.
>
>Arthur

-- 
???????????? ??????

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Feb 12 00:28:45 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:28:45 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?ASP=2ENet?=
In-Reply-To: <1001585336.7393828.1392162848798.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <648238097.7105568.1392146526388.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<1001585336.7393828.1392162848798.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1392186525.207453901@f117.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Thank you, it's a good presentation.
It would be useful to get the PowerPoint presentation Damian Edwards is using during his presentation to grab the list of "AVOIDs" and "PREFERs".
Any idea where it can be downloaded from?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:54 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi All:
>
>I have been playing around with ASP.Net for years but confused by some of the recommended methods. Well, a lot of my concerns and some I have been using are all wrong. Why, does MS always try to go their own way regardless of what the standards are...
>
>...But Microsoft seems to be trying to now follow the industry.
>
>So for those that play with ASP.Net check the following out:
>
>http://vimeo.com/68390507
>
>Jim 
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


-- 
???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 12 01:53:02 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:53:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest
In-Reply-To: <1392100684.290527402@f345.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1043470972.7694248.1392191582250.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Reddit, Mozilla, Tumblr, Imgur, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook and over 6,000 other websites are protesting NSA surveillance. This is the day for a focused protest - of course we still have a lot of work in the future to effect real change - sign the online petition, call your representatives, spread awareness...

https://thedaywefightback.org/international

Jim

From michael at mattysconsulting.com  Wed Feb 12 07:54:37 2014
From: michael at mattysconsulting.com (Michael Mattys)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:54:37 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest
In-Reply-To: <1043470972.7694248.1392191582250.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1392100684.290527402@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<1043470972.7694248.1392191582250.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <02c801cf27f9$f97d4470$ec77cd50$@mattysconsulting.com>

Jim,

Could you explain the issues here, please?
It seems to me that these same companies doing the protesting would do the
same surveillance if they could!

Michael R Mattys
Mattys Consulting, LLC
www.mattysconsulting.com


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest

Hi All:

Reddit, Mozilla, Tumblr, Imgur, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook and over
6,000 other websites are protesting NSA surveillance. This is the day for a
focused protest - of course we still have a lot of work in the future to
effect real change - sign the online petition, call your representatives,
spread awareness...

https://thedaywefightback.org/international

Jim
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From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Wed Feb 12 10:04:04 2014
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:04:04 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to tell if you're an old fart
Message-ID: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802852903C1@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>

There's also an option (on the 'Pointer Options' tab) to 'Show location of pointer when I press the CTRL key'. When you do so a circle about 5cm in diameter appears around the cursor and it then shrinks to zero. It's great for drawing viewers' attention to a spot on the screen when you are doing a presentation.


Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:48 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to tell if you're an old fart

With apologies to Mr. Foxworthy...

You're an old fart if...

You need to switch to the large mouse cursor because you can't find the small one on your dual monitor setup.

I made the switch and now I can find it readily. I recall from years back that there was some variation that left a "trail" when you moved the mouse, rather like the thing they tried in the NHL to make the game more friendly to American eyes unused to the game; some sort of yellowish circle emphasizing where the puck was.

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 12 12:58:44 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:58:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
In-Reply-To: <003f01cf2710$f61c17f0$e25447d0$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <487575802.8190367.1392231524457.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

This product seems very narrow focused. It can only be built on Windows 8 and only run/used and Windows 8...this describes around 8 percent of the mobile/desktop market. It would be useless for most clients as they have a mixed environment...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February, 2014 2:06:41 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

Hi all

A very recent attempt (still in beta) has been done for creating apps for
Windows 8: Microsoft Project Siena.
It's interesting as it focuses on retrieving and displaying data from remote
sources using methods that should be familiar to a power Excel user (no
Access here):

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/dn518139

The video is only a few minutes but gives a better impression of the tool
than the description. Of course, working with the examples is the better way
to go.
The generated code is claimed to be JavaScript and HTML5 so it should be
possible to customize.

The project is by itself a Windows App so you must run Windows 8+ to take
advantage of it.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 1. februar 2014 19:47
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

Shamil,

Of course not. Heavy lifting is always required. The trick with these
graphic programming tools is this: do they get out of the way when heavy
lifting is required, or are we trapped in their paradigm?

I often draw an analogy to this situation when it comes to team-programming.
Large parts of almost any custom app can be executed by novices. Small parts
of almost everything worth being paid for require skills. If you recall,
several years ago I hired you to perform some small bits of an app, for
which you had the expertise and I did not. That particular project involved
3 developers. A local junior programmer dealt with form and report creation.
I handled the middle bits, and hired you to write the Windows API stuff that
I didn't know how to do. It all went together in a smooth deliverable, and
an example of what I consider my (excuse the reference to this weekend's
Super Bowl) quarterbacking skills.
After all these years in this business, I know how to pass the ball, and to
whom to pass it, to get the job done.

Arthur

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Feb 12 13:30:55 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:30:55 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?A_new_graphic_program_builder?=
In-Reply-To: <487575802.8190367.1392231524457.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <003f01cf2710$f61c17f0$e25447d0$@cactus.dk>
	<487575802.8190367.1392231524457.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1392233455.932315575@f158.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

I guess that Microsoft Project Siena, when released, will have an option to release HTML5 web apps (via Office 365), which will run OK ?on the most popular mobile/desktop platforms.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:58 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Gustav:
>
>This product seems very narrow focused. It can only be built on Windows 8 and only run/used and Windows 8...this describes around 8 percent of the mobile/desktop market. It would be useless for most clients as they have a mixed environment...
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gustav Brock" < gustav at cactus.dk >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, 11 February, 2014 2:06:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>Hi all
>
>A very recent attempt (still in beta) has been done for creating apps for
>Windows 8: Microsoft Project Siena.
>It's interesting as it focuses on retrieving and displaying data from remote
>sources using methods that should be familiar to a power Excel user (no
>Access here):
>
>???? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/dn518139
>
>The video is only a few minutes but gives a better impression of the tool
>than the description. Of course, working with the examples is the better way
>to go.
>The generated code is claimed to be JavaScript and HTML5 so it should be
>possible to customize.
>
>The project is by itself a Windows App so you must run Windows 8+ to take
>advantage of it.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
>Sendt: 1. februar 2014 19:47
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>Shamil,
>
>Of course not. Heavy lifting is always required. The trick with these
>graphic programming tools is this: do they get out of the way when heavy
>lifting is required, or are we trapped in their paradigm?
>
>I often draw an analogy to this situation when it comes to team-programming.
>Large parts of almost any custom app can be executed by novices. Small parts
>of almost everything worth being paid for require skills. If you recall,
>several years ago I hired you to perform some small bits of an app, for
>which you had the expertise and I did not. That particular project involved
>3 developers. A local junior programmer dealt with form and report creation.
>I handled the middle bits, and hired you to write the Windows API stuff that
>I didn't know how to do. It all went together in a smooth deliverable, and
>an example of what I consider my (excuse the reference to this weekend's
>Super Bowl) quarterbacking skills.
>After all these years in this business, I know how to pass the ball, and to
>whom to pass it, to get the job done.
>
>Arthur
>
>


-- 
???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 12 14:43:30 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:43:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
In-Reply-To: <1392233455.932315575@f158.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1522699487.8311887.1392237810419.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

Let us hope so.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February, 2014 11:30:55 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

 Hi Jim --

I guess that Microsoft Project Siena, when released, will have an option to release HTML5 web apps (via Office 365), which will run OK ?on the most popular mobile/desktop platforms.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:58 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Gustav:
>
>This product seems very narrow focused. It can only be built on Windows 8 and only run/used and Windows 8...this describes around 8 percent of the mobile/desktop market. It would be useless for most clients as they have a mixed environment...
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gustav Brock" < gustav at cactus.dk >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, 11 February, 2014 2:06:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>Hi all
>
>A very recent attempt (still in beta) has been done for creating apps for
>Windows 8: Microsoft Project Siena.
>It's interesting as it focuses on retrieving and displaying data from remote
>sources using methods that should be familiar to a power Excel user (no
>Access here):
>
>???? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/dn518139
>
>The video is only a few minutes but gives a better impression of the tool
>than the description. Of course, working with the examples is the better way
>to go.
>The generated code is claimed to be JavaScript and HTML5 so it should be
>possible to customize.
>
>The project is by itself a Windows App so you must run Windows 8+ to take
>advantage of it.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
>Sendt: 1. februar 2014 19:47
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>Shamil,
>
>Of course not. Heavy lifting is always required. The trick with these
>graphic programming tools is this: do they get out of the way when heavy
>lifting is required, or are we trapped in their paradigm?
>
>I often draw an analogy to this situation when it comes to team-programming.
>Large parts of almost any custom app can be executed by novices. Small parts
>of almost everything worth being paid for require skills. If you recall,
>several years ago I hired you to perform some small bits of an app, for
>which you had the expertise and I did not. That particular project involved
>3 developers. A local junior programmer dealt with form and report creation.
>I handled the middle bits, and hired you to write the Windows API stuff that
>I didn't know how to do. It all went together in a smooth deliverable, and
>an example of what I consider my (excuse the reference to this weekend's
>Super Bowl) quarterbacking skills.
>After all these years in this business, I know how to pass the ball, and to
>whom to pass it, to get the job done.
>
>Arthur
>
>


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Feb 12 15:30:28 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:30:28 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
Message-ID: <s2fbf619.050@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

It could be seen as an advantage. Focusing is a good thing, and Windows 8/9 is the future.

The tool is, of course, not for those who don't want to create Windows 8 apps.

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 12-02-14 19:58 >>>
Hi Gustav:

This product seems very narrow focused. It can only be built on Windows 8 and only run/used and Windows 8...this describes around 8 percent of the mobile/desktop market. It would be useless for most clients as they have a mixed environment...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February, 2014 2:06:41 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

Hi all

A very recent attempt (still in beta) has been done for creating apps for
Windows 8: Microsoft Project Siena.
It's interesting as it focuses on retrieving and displaying data from remote
sources using methods that should be familiar to a power Excel user (no
Access here):

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/dn518139

The video is only a few minutes but gives a better impression of the tool
than the description. Of course, working with the examples is the better way
to go.
The generated code is claimed to be JavaScript and HTML5 so it should be
possible to customize.

The project is by itself a Windows App so you must run Windows 8+ to take
advantage of it.

/gustav


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 12 15:31:14 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:31:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest
In-Reply-To: <02c801cf27f9$f97d4470$ec77cd50$@mattysconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <1130956085.8362771.1392240674003.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Michael:

You are right of course. Information is power and profit. What the NSA is doing (and Britain's GCHQ) is being so absolute with every piece of data on the planet. Their goal is not profit per se, at least directly, but to profile every person. If it was to stop deadly terrorism it could almost be forgiven but terrorism is such a tiny piece, it also insignificant.

The goal is nothing less than rare naked power, which can be used to control anyone anywhere. Maybe this power is not being used for this purpose today but eventually it will...with no safe-guards, or public over-sight all it takes is some fanatic regime, government driven by religious fervor or just a crook, to start a reign of terror. 

The German and Russian citizens know what this abuse of power can be like, with vivid memories of the Gestapo, the Stasi and the NKVD. The US has only had a few glimpses, with the McCarthy era, Nixon and government, attacks on the civil rights movement, anti-Vietnam war protesters and now we have an era of the extreme right who believe in religious purity.

There is no one that does not have a past or something that they have done that they are not proud of or something that could be misconstrue in certain circumstances. Here is an example I just happened to be reading...This describes a situation where given enough information any prejudice can be proven, where conviction is quick and exoneration could be indefinite, as there are no courts, no assumption of innocence, no trial by peers, circumstantial evidence is sufficient for conviction, no method of challenging the sources, guilt by association is the norm and a life-time of punishment can be exacted with no recourse for the victim: 

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/2/the-terrifying-surveillancecaseofbrandonmayfield.html 

The internet is the driving force that has created this wonderful age of information. An age full of free ideas, creations of all kinds and businesses of every type have been flourishing. The NSA's exploits can very easily put an end to all this. Who wants to live in an environment with an all seeing overlord, who never forgets or forgives, who favours friends in businesses and governments and punishes any who challenge them at the whim of who ever is currently at the helm of the NSA machine?

Sorry for the long rambling and passionate explanation but it is important to understand where the NSA sits in today's and tomorrow's context and why it is so important that their virtually unlimited power is challenged and how they differ from the business and neutrality of the internet.

Jim                

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Mattys" <michael at mattysconsulting.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February, 2014 5:54:37 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest

Jim,

Could you explain the issues here, please?
It seems to me that these same companies doing the protesting would do the
same surveillance if they could!

Michael R Mattys
Mattys Consulting, LLC
www.mattysconsulting.com


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest

Hi All:

Reddit, Mozilla, Tumblr, Imgur, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook and over
6,000 other websites are protesting NSA surveillance. This is the day for a
focused protest - of course we still have a lot of work in the future to
effect real change - sign the online petition, call your representatives,
spread awareness...

https://thedaywefightback.org/international

Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 12 15:44:21 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:44:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] ASP.Net
In-Reply-To: <1392186525.207453901@f117.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <162051157.8376479.1392241461324.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

I could not find that specific Powerpoint presentation but Damian Edwards is definitely prolific. Here is a link to dozens of his online instructional videos:

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Speakers/Damian-Edwards

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:28:45 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] ASP.Net

 Hi Jim --

Thank you, it's a good presentation.
It would be useful to get the PowerPoint presentation Damian Edwards is using during his presentation to grab the list of "AVOIDs" and "PREFERs".
Any idea where it can be downloaded from?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:54 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi All:
>
>I have been playing around with ASP.Net for years but confused by some of the recommended methods. Well, a lot of my concerns and some I have been using are all wrong. Why, does MS always try to go their own way regardless of what the standards are...
>
>...But Microsoft seems to be trying to now follow the industry.
>
>So for those that play with ASP.Net check the following out:
>
>http://vimeo.com/68390507
>
>Jim 
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From michael at mattysconsulting.com  Wed Feb 12 16:57:14 2014
From: michael at mattysconsulting.com (Michael Mattys)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:57:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest
In-Reply-To: <1130956085.8362771.1392240674003.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <02c801cf27f9$f97d4470$ec77cd50$@mattysconsulting.com>
	<1130956085.8362771.1392240674003.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <02f401cf2845$c6cf69d0$546e3d70$@mattysconsulting.com>

Thanks, Jim, your insights are always thought-provoking.
I've found that it doesn't really require the ranks of the NSA to accuse and
even convict where an emotionally-charged issue
causes prejudice and 'error on the side of caution' to substantially or
irreparably harm individuals.
Power corrupts, as they say.

Michael R Mattys
Mattys Consulting, LLC
www.mattysconsulting.com


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:31 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest

Hi Michael:

You are right of course. Information is power and profit. What the NSA is
doing (and Britain's GCHQ) is being so absolute with every piece of data on
the planet. Their goal is not profit per se, at least directly, but to
profile every person. If it was to stop deadly terrorism it could almost be
forgiven but terrorism is such a tiny piece, it also insignificant.

The goal is nothing less than rare naked power, which can be used to control
anyone anywhere. Maybe this power is not being used for this purpose today
but eventually it will...with no safe-guards, or public over-sight all it
takes is some fanatic regime, government driven by religious fervor or just
a crook, to start a reign of terror. 

The German and Russian citizens know what this abuse of power can be like,
with vivid memories of the Gestapo, the Stasi and the NKVD. The US has only
had a few glimpses, with the McCarthy era, Nixon and government, attacks on
the civil rights movement, anti-Vietnam war protesters and now we have an
era of the extreme right who believe in religious purity.

There is no one that does not have a past or something that they have done
that they are not proud of or something that could be misconstrue in certain
circumstances. Here is an example I just happened to be reading...This
describes a situation where given enough information any prejudice can be
proven, where conviction is quick and exoneration could be indefinite, as
there are no courts, no assumption of innocence, no trial by peers,
circumstantial evidence is sufficient for conviction, no method of
challenging the sources, guilt by association is the norm and a life-time of
punishment can be exacted with no recourse for the victim: 

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/2/the-terrifying-surveillancecase
ofbrandonmayfield.html 

The internet is the driving force that has created this wonderful age of
information. An age full of free ideas, creations of all kinds and
businesses of every type have been flourishing. The NSA's exploits can very
easily put an end to all this. Who wants to live in an environment with an
all seeing overlord, who never forgets or forgives, who favours friends in
businesses and governments and punishes any who challenge them at the whim
of who ever is currently at the helm of the NSA machine?

Sorry for the long rambling and passionate explanation but it is important
to understand where the NSA sits in today's and tomorrow's context and why
it is so important that their virtually unlimited power is challenged and
how they differ from the business and neutrality of the internet.

Jim                

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Mattys" <michael at mattysconsulting.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February, 2014 5:54:37 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest

Jim,

Could you explain the issues here, please?
It seems to me that these same companies doing the protesting would do the
same surveillance if they could!

Michael R Mattys
Mattys Consulting, LLC
www.mattysconsulting.com


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hundreds of companies and thousands protest

Hi All:

Reddit, Mozilla, Tumblr, Imgur, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook and over
6,000 other websites are protesting NSA surveillance. This is the day for a
focused protest - of course we still have a lot of work in the future to
effect real change - sign the online petition, call your representatives,
spread awareness...

https://thedaywefightback.org/international

Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 12 18:15:15 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:15:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visualization tools
In-Reply-To: <162051157.8376479.1392241461324.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <940493111.8514448.1392250515801.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

There is nothing like visualization tools for display a summary of data. Here is a visualization tool from Google that can be used via data from Github and SVN and various other online project management software packages to create a video of a projects progress.

All that is needed is access to a text based log of who did what and when, over a period of time and a very pretty graphic is ready.

https://code.google.com/p/gource/

Here is a sample of code for deploying such a graphical:

https://code.google.com/p/gource/wiki/GravatarExample

...and here are a list of video examples:

https://code.google.com/p/gource/wiki/Videos

(Check out the vid build from a Minecraft assembly log.)

Jim 

   

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 12 18:25:28 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:25:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Marvel Comics
In-Reply-To: <162051157.8376479.1392241461324.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <487235631.8522309.1392251128092.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Marvel Comics has opened up access to it huge image libraries and provided the API to do so. Great for screen savers, background images and website eye candy.

http://developer.marvel.com/

There is a step by step guide on how to get access to the images. Here is a how this process is performed in code:

http://developer.marvel.com/documentation/generalinfo

Here is an example of the choice available.

http://developer.marvel.com/documentation/images

This looks like fun.
Jim

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Feb 13 06:48:29 2014
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:48:29 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fwd: short consulting job
In-Reply-To: <007c01cf283b$dd900b20$98b02160$@gmail.com>
References: <007c01cf283b$dd900b20$98b02160$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+f=jhW7mOBE0rZwwY1x5J0Db9QCJx7oKMviZFT4PLm2mA@mail.gmail.com>

A reader would like hands-on-hands training -- about an hours worth on a
specific Office features -- I've included her message below. If you'd like
to offer your services, let me know -- she'd like to use GoToMeeting I
think she said -- but a phone conversation might work as well.

I don't know what she means by reflexive, and I don't think you can teach
all that in an hour -- I think her expectations are a bit off.

I've offered to answer specific questions, for free, but she wants more.

Thanks!
Susan H.




Don't know if "Developer" is the right term.  I need up to an hour of an
expert's time.  I need to learn how to do conditional formatting for Outlook
messages plus a couple of things with Excel:  (1) how to set up a simple
spreadsheet, converting items for a table set up in WORD, and (2) How to
make items in a Workbook "reflexive" in Worksheets and vice versa.  KathyM.

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Feb 13 10:11:39 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:11:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>

A very interesting read can be found at this link:

http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-as-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 13 10:28:01 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:28:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <182776225.9065704.1392308881541.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

If this is true and then when this technology gets into production that would be very exciting to say the least...unlimited clean energy?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:11:39 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer

A very interesting read can be found at this link:

http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-as-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/

-- 
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Feb 13 10:33:26 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:33:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
In-Reply-To: <182776225.9065704.1392308881541.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
	<182776225.9065704.1392308881541.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iObNu-KmikzxAqN_Rg1UAjai-zx720tDoE=h4M_jaHRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Jim.

That's the plan. Whether it comes to fruition the next 5 years or so will
tell. But it would be loverly.

A.


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> If this is true and then when this technology gets into production that
> would be very exciting to say the least...unlimited clean energy?
>
> Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 13 10:41:26 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:41:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new smartphone OS
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <676084750.9083843.1392309686175.JavaMail.root@cds002>

It seems like a new smartphone OS has hit the market, called Sailfish.

Supposedly, it can run on all phones (I will believe that when I see it) and supports all Android apps. The OS runs on all platforms as well so apps can be easily designed for it.

https://sailfishos.org/index.html

Right now there is only one phone that is running with the Sailfish OS but if you have an old Smartphone, can not update it any more, are planning on trading up and have no idea what to do with the old beater then maybe this new OS might breathe new life into it. To me it looks a little bit like the OS on the Windows phones.

The one phone that does run the OS, right out of the box, is called the Jolla...though it is inexpensive it is not cheap.

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/jolla/4505-6452_7-35823733.html

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 13 11:27:05 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:27:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <515592901.9157396.1392312425274.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Microsoft wants all their Windows users out of their old operating systems and to embrace Windows 8.x. With Windows 8.x sales languishing at 10 percent and no particular large scale progress in adoption, it seems that we are on a verge of a perfect storm.

Windows XP users have just kept using their old beaters (currently 35 percent of the market) and when they have migrated it has been to Windows 7, but to stop the progress, MS, since October of last year, has stopped all sales of Windows 7 (IMHO, that was stupid move as a sale is a sale and what the users want the users should get). There are still thousands of copies of Window 7 is the supply chain and sales continue to be brisk (much brisker than Windows 8.x)...Windows 7 sales are now grown to over 55 percent of the Windows PC market. 

In six weeks support for XP will disappear, Microsoft has blocked the Windows 7 escape route but the market just is not moving or is willing to buy into the new Windows 8.x environment. According to the following article, Microsoft is trying in enlist all it loyal Windows 8 supporters to get behind a push to encourage your friend, your neighbours and local businesses to move.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9246122/Perspective_Microsoft_asks_for_volunteers_to_join_its_kill_XP_army

OTOH, I wonder if the following article is any indication that disenchanted Windows users are just bailing out all together?

http://qz.com/176643/its-official-apple-sells-more-computers-than-all-windows-pcs-combined

On a personal note, I have found my own escape route by just re-learning Linux and now have found I very much prefer this leading edge (bleeding edge) environment as it is more suited to my character and have decided to wait until maybe Windows 9 comes out.

In the larger scheme of things, this will hardly matter to Microsoft as they will still make their billions in sales, through servers and Office...but in ten years or so, it will come back to haunt...hopefully the new leadership will be able to rekindle the excitement and new loyalty in Microsoft again. 

Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Feb 13 12:16:03 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:16:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <515592901.9157396.1392312425274.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
	<515592901.9157396.1392312425274.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jxB_xzogzwKnSuM43aCw5LQDZS1D7=-aApSj8QEd6Oug@mail.gmail.com>

Given all the free apps available on various Linux flavours, as well as the
user-friendly downloads of Ubuntu, Mint and others, and the costs of
training the user-base to adapt to Linux vs. the costs of training said
base to learn Windows 8, for me at least this is a no-brainer.

I recommend to all my clients and friends who are open-minded, to switch to
Linux and forget once and for all about costly updates to all the essential
components that describe your environment.

The various Linux installations have all pretty much achieved no-brainer
status. LibreOffice can do anything Office can do. Linux in any variant has
made it, and IMO has eclipsed Windows+Office. There's no longer a contest
any more. The real question is "How can MS respond? And the available
answers are:

a) the Ostrich strategy: stick your head in the sand and hope for the
best.Given the animosity MS has created in the world of Access developers,
not to mention those in the Excel and Word  3P communities, I see no future
in this avenue.

b) Offer future versions of Windows and Office for free (two chances of
that: a fat one and a slim one).

Long story short, I see no future in betting on Microsoft, and I say this
sadly, since for most of the past 20+ years I have made my income in
betting on MS. But I no longer see that as a viable play. The more I
examine the terrain, the more I feel that Ubuntu + Libre + various other
packages comprise the most viable solution, for everything from Mom 'n' Pop
to Large Scale Businesses.

There is a cost-of-transition, no doubt about it. But compared with the MS
licensing fees, this transition cost is trivial. An organization can adopt
Linux, LibreOffice and MySQL for free and forever. Punch an accountant and
ask her to wake up and smell her coffee, and further to test said
implementation on any available disposable machine, or even a VM (which is
also free, such as Oracle's VirtualBox).

In short, there is no contest. All that remains is the will-power of the IT
people in the given organization.

Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 13 13:02:22 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:02:22 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jxB_xzogzwKnSuM43aCw5LQDZS1D7=-aApSj8QEd6Oug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <178753774.9282838.1392318142321.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

As to comment to your observation, I will relate a tale from a couple of nights ago. 

We have a semi-month Geek meeting that happens at a local Starbucks and we discuss such things as software, electronics and what new in science. I am sure the other patron of the establishment just roll their eyes when we visit. ;-)

That particular night, only three of us could come as two were sick, one had a prior engagement and one had to be in a remote town, to solve a software problem (How to migrate a depreciated version of Microsoft small business server to server 2012...the online manuals are not correct and Microsoft's support is at a total loss...but that is another subject.) 

Anyway, one of my friends had brought along his computer. He was trying to get a circuit board application running and he was having no success. He had recently installed Linux Mint on his laptop was having one problem after another so we decided to take a look. 

The solutions to the problems were simple. Within a few minutes both my friends and two more university students were clustered around asking question. They asked if I was a Linux expert...hardly, but I agreed to attempt to answer any question they poised. I had braced myself for some complex Linux issues but all the questions were just simple softball requests...how to view hidden file, how to place an icon on the desktop, how to change ownership of a file, where are all the program files stored, how to connect to a network, how to change the default storage locations, how to get help on a Linux computer (built in "man") and so on...all very basic stuff.

The two young fellows, from the university were not taking computer science and the students that were, according to them, had no interest in helping. They even asked if I would be interested in giving a course in Linux but I am leery of that as with the first difficult question, I would be Googling. It seems that few people even understand Linux, even the very simple stuff...to my way of thinking it is even simpler than Windows but over the twenty years that Windows has been around, its design and functionality has become a standard. 

I am sure the people at Microsoft must be pulling their hair out by the roots, in frustration, at the rejection of Windows 8.x. It is really simple to use but it is just not traditional Windows and just like Linux, people, except the Geeks, do not like anything new.

Jim       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:16:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

Given all the free apps available on various Linux flavours, as well as the
user-friendly downloads of Ubuntu, Mint and others, and the costs of
training the user-base to adapt to Linux vs. the costs of training said
base to learn Windows 8, for me at least this is a no-brainer.

I recommend to all my clients and friends who are open-minded, to switch to
Linux and forget once and for all about costly updates to all the essential
components that describe your environment.

The various Linux installations have all pretty much achieved no-brainer
status. LibreOffice can do anything Office can do. Linux in any variant has
made it, and IMO has eclipsed Windows+Office. There's no longer a contest
any more. The real question is "How can MS respond? And the available
answers are:

a) the Ostrich strategy: stick your head in the sand and hope for the
best.Given the animosity MS has created in the world of Access developers,
not to mention those in the Excel and Word  3P communities, I see no future
in this avenue.

b) Offer future versions of Windows and Office for free (two chances of
that: a fat one and a slim one).

Long story short, I see no future in betting on Microsoft, and I say this
sadly, since for most of the past 20+ years I have made my income in
betting on MS. But I no longer see that as a viable play. The more I
examine the terrain, the more I feel that Ubuntu + Libre + various other
packages comprise the most viable solution, for everything from Mom 'n' Pop
to Large Scale Businesses.

There is a cost-of-transition, no doubt about it. But compared with the MS
licensing fees, this transition cost is trivial. An organization can adopt
Linux, LibreOffice and MySQL for free and forever. Punch an accountant and
ask her to wake up and smell her coffee, and further to test said
implementation on any available disposable machine, or even a VM (which is
also free, such as Oracle's VirtualBox).

In short, there is no contest. All that remains is the will-power of the IT
people in the given organization.

Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 13 13:33:38 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:33:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Security
In-Reply-To: <1392317571.978502533@f391.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1147810187.9322792.1392320018032.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Here is the ultimate security testing program. 

A groups of hackers have put together an application that anyone can use to test their companies' or any businesses' security. The product is called BlackArch and can be run from a USB stick and will interrogate any PC, server, router and so on in the network. It is completely non-destructive as it is just designed to find as display a network's weaknesses.

http://www.blackarch.org/index.html

Below is a link to the list of tools, which are all OSS and can be acquired individually from Github. As more hacks and their tools appear on the web, the product is being updated. (It is so hard to keep ahead of the NSA and the GCHQ. ;-))

http://www.blackarch.org/tools.html

Jim 

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 13 13:59:55 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:59:55 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <178753774.9282838.1392318142321.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <178753774.9282838.1392318142321.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <52FD243B.3000108@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-13 1:02 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Arthur:
>
> As to comment to your observation, I will relate a tale from a couple of nights ago.
>
> We have a semi-month Geek meeting that happens at a local Starbucks and we discuss such things as software, electronics and what new in science. I am sure the other patron of the establishment just roll their eyes when we visit. ;-)
>
> That particular night, only three of us could come as two were sick, one had a prior engagement and one had to be in a remote town, to solve a software problem (How to migrate a depreciated version of Microsoft small business server to server 2012...the online manuals are not correct and Microsoft's support is at a total loss...but that is another subject.)
>
> Anyway, one of my friends had brought along his computer. He was trying to get a circuit board application running and he was having no success. He had recently installed Linux Mint on his laptop was having one problem after another so we decided to take a look.
>
> The solutions to the problems were simple. Within a few minutes both my friends and two more university students were clustered around asking question. They asked if I was a Linux expert...hardly, but I agreed to attempt to answer any question they poised. I had braced myself for some complex Linux issues but all the questions were just simple softball requests...how to view hidden file, how to place an icon on the desktop, how to change ownership of a file, where are all the program files stored, how to connect to a network, how to change the default storage locations, how to get help on a Linux computer (built in "man") and so on...all very basic stuff.
>
> The two young fellows, from the university were not taking computer science and the students that were, according to them, had no interest in helping. They even asked if I would be interested in giving a course in Linux but I am leery of that as with the first difficult question, I would be Googling. It seems that few people even understand Linux, even the very simple stuff...to my way of thinking it is even simpler than Windows but over the twenty years that Windows has been around, its design and functionality has become a standard.
>
> I am sure the people at Microsoft must be pulling their hair out by the roots, in frustration, at the rejection of Windows 8.x. It is really simple to use but it is just not traditional Windows and just like Linux, people, except the Geeks, do not like anything new.

Well, when I first saw Win8 I rilly liked its clean, elegant look. It 
made me smile. So I guess I don't quite count as one of those who "do 
not like anything new".

Trying to get basic things done on Win8 has turned me against it, with 
malice. Why?

1. Basic Windows tasks I'd overlearnt how to do from the Start menu or 
in Explorer became in Win8 timewastingly mysterious, headbanging nightmares.

2. Win8 continues the security cockup begun in Vista and worsened in 
Win7---design for a secret-obsessed corporate world where access to all 
files & folders can be specifically scoped by controlling managers, 
optimised for a network where all boxes run Win8. At Microsoft this 
latter "feature" seems to be regarded as "marketing", but it's just MS's 
version of forced obsolescence. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg 
"security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and 
Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively 
as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.

"1984" is not a good model for personal computing.

PB



>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:16:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
>
> Given all the free apps available on various Linux flavours, as well as the
> user-friendly downloads of Ubuntu, Mint and others, and the costs of
> training the user-base to adapt to Linux vs. the costs of training said
> base to learn Windows 8, for me at least this is a no-brainer.
>
> I recommend to all my clients and friends who are open-minded, to switch to
> Linux and forget once and for all about costly updates to all the essential
> components that describe your environment.
>
> The various Linux installations have all pretty much achieved no-brainer
> status. LibreOffice can do anything Office can do. Linux in any variant has
> made it, and IMO has eclipsed Windows+Office. There's no longer a contest
> any more. The real question is "How can MS respond? And the available
> answers are:
>
> a) the Ostrich strategy: stick your head in the sand and hope for the
> best.Given the animosity MS has created in the world of Access developers,
> not to mention those in the Excel and Word  3P communities, I see no future
> in this avenue.
>
> b) Offer future versions of Windows and Office for free (two chances of
> that: a fat one and a slim one).
>
> Long story short, I see no future in betting on Microsoft, and I say this
> sadly, since for most of the past 20+ years I have made my income in
> betting on MS. But I no longer see that as a viable play. The more I
> examine the terrain, the more I feel that Ubuntu + Libre + various other
> packages comprise the most viable solution, for everything from Mom 'n' Pop
> to Large Scale Businesses.
>
> There is a cost-of-transition, no doubt about it. But compared with the MS
> licensing fees, this transition cost is trivial. An organization can adopt
> Linux, LibreOffice and MySQL for free and forever. Punch an accountant and
> ask her to wake up and smell her coffee, and further to test said
> implementation on any available disposable machine, or even a VM (which is
> also free, such as Oracle's VirtualBox).
>
> In short, there is no contest. All that remains is the will-power of the IT
> people in the given organization.
>
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Feb 13 14:13:17 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:13:17 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jxB_xzogzwKnSuM43aCw5LQDZS1D7=-aApSj8QEd6Oug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com><515592901.9157396.1392312425274.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<CAEPJO1jxB_xzogzwKnSuM43aCw5LQDZS1D7=-aApSj8QEd6Oug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40CF8F74179841F29823AB1DFD95D2C6@HAL9007>

Those of us who make a living from Access - what do we do?

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:16 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

Given all the free apps available on various Linux flavours, as well as the
user-friendly downloads of Ubuntu, Mint and others, and the costs of
training the user-base to adapt to Linux vs. the costs of training said base
to learn Windows 8, for me at least this is a no-brainer.

I recommend to all my clients and friends who are open-minded, to switch to
Linux and forget once and for all about costly updates to all the essential
components that describe your environment.

The various Linux installations have all pretty much achieved no-brainer
status. LibreOffice can do anything Office can do. Linux in any variant has
made it, and IMO has eclipsed Windows+Office. There's no longer a contest
any more. The real question is "How can MS respond? And the available
answers are:

a) the Ostrich strategy: stick your head in the sand and hope for the
best.Given the animosity MS has created in the world of Access developers,
not to mention those in the Excel and Word  3P communities, I see no future
in this avenue.

b) Offer future versions of Windows and Office for free (two chances of
that: a fat one and a slim one).

Long story short, I see no future in betting on Microsoft, and I say this
sadly, since for most of the past 20+ years I have made my income in betting
on MS. But I no longer see that as a viable play. The more I examine the
terrain, the more I feel that Ubuntu + Libre + various other packages
comprise the most viable solution, for everything from Mom 'n' Pop to Large
Scale Businesses.

There is a cost-of-transition, no doubt about it. But compared with the MS
licensing fees, this transition cost is trivial. An organization can adopt
Linux, LibreOffice and MySQL for free and forever. Punch an accountant and
ask her to wake up and smell her coffee, and further to test said
implementation on any available disposable machine, or even a VM (which is
also free, such as Oracle's VirtualBox).

In short, there is no contest. All that remains is the will-power of the IT
people in the given organization.

Arthur
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb 13 14:25:14 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:25:14 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
Message-ID: <s2fd3848.090@cactus.dk>

Hi Peter

That is true.

Some years ago I finally bite the bullet and installed Active Directory. It takes a little but saves so much trouble later. Highly recommended.

/gustav

>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 13-02-14 20:59 >>>
.. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg 
"security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 13 16:20:15 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:20:15 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <s2fd3848.090@cactus.dk>
References: <s2fd3848.090@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <52FD451F.40204@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-13 2:25 PM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> That is true.
>
> Some years ago I finally bite the bullet and installed Active Directory. It takes a little but saves so much trouble later. Highly recommended.

That would /simplify/ opening all XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes to one another?

PB


>
> /gustav
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 13-02-14 20:59 >>>
> .. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg
> "security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 13 17:34:43 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:34:43 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <52FD243B.3000108@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <98594115.9577001.1392334483281.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Peter:

You are hardly an average software user by any stretch of the imagination. Pretty well any OS is easy for us...but then again there is Windows 8.x and though I can not personally collaborate your experiences, your comments sound so familiar coming from friends, still in the business and other business acquaintances.   

I feel if your code is open source, your software's security has to rely on code quality and not on code obfuscation.

Apple has recently announced that its software upgrades are free for as long as you own the hardware. With Linux/Android upgrades, on all platforms obviously free...this pay as you go and take your chances model of OS upgrading is now the private preserve of Microsoft. Is it sustainable?
 
Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:59:55 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

On 2014-02-13 1:02 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Arthur:
>
> As to comment to your observation, I will relate a tale from a couple of nights ago.
>
> We have a semi-month Geek meeting that happens at a local Starbucks and we discuss such things as software, electronics and what new in science. I am sure the other patron of the establishment just roll their eyes when we visit. ;-)
>
> That particular night, only three of us could come as two were sick, one had a prior engagement and one had to be in a remote town, to solve a software problem (How to migrate a depreciated version of Microsoft small business server to server 2012...the online manuals are not correct and Microsoft's support is at a total loss...but that is another subject.)
>
> Anyway, one of my friends had brought along his computer. He was trying to get a circuit board application running and he was having no success. He had recently installed Linux Mint on his laptop was having one problem after another so we decided to take a look.
>
> The solutions to the problems were simple. Within a few minutes both my friends and two more university students were clustered around asking question. They asked if I was a Linux expert...hardly, but I agreed to attempt to answer any question they poised. I had braced myself for some complex Linux issues but all the questions were just simple softball requests...how to view hidden file, how to place an icon on the desktop, how to change ownership of a file, where are all the program files stored, how to connect to a network, how to change the default storage locations, how to get help on a Linux computer (built in "man") and so on...all very basic stuff.
>
> The two young fellows, from the university were not taking computer science and the students that were, according to them, had no interest in helping. They even asked if I would be interested in giving a course in Linux but I am leery of that as with the first difficult question, I would be Googling. It seems that few people even understand Linux, even the very simple stuff...to my way of thinking it is even simpler than Windows but over the twenty years that Windows has been around, its design and functionality has become a standard.
>
> I am sure the people at Microsoft must be pulling their hair out by the roots, in frustration, at the rejection of Windows 8.x. It is really simple to use but it is just not traditional Windows and just like Linux, people, except the Geeks, do not like anything new.

Well, when I first saw Win8 I rilly liked its clean, elegant look. It 
made me smile. So I guess I don't quite count as one of those who "do 
not like anything new".

Trying to get basic things done on Win8 has turned me against it, with 
malice. Why?

1. Basic Windows tasks I'd overlearnt how to do from the Start menu or 
in Explorer became in Win8 timewastingly mysterious, headbanging nightmares.

2. Win8 continues the security cockup begun in Vista and worsened in 
Win7---design for a secret-obsessed corporate world where access to all 
files & folders can be specifically scoped by controlling managers, 
optimised for a network where all boxes run Win8. At Microsoft this 
latter "feature" seems to be regarded as "marketing", but it's just MS's 
version of forced obsolescence. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg 
"security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and 
Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively 
as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.

"1984" is not a good model for personal computing.

PB


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 13 17:40:06 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:40:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <s2fd3848.090@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <2140811638.9581753.1392334806052.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

Good call...you are right of course but the average user would never figure that out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:25:14 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

Hi Peter

That is true.

Some years ago I finally bite the bullet and installed Active Directory. It takes a little but saves so much trouble later. Highly recommended.

/gustav

>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 13-02-14 20:59 >>>
.. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg 
"security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.

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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Thu Feb 13 22:55:55 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:55:55 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send SMS From Mobile Into MS Access Or SQL Database
Message-ID: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>

To all,

I am working on a little project, which if works has potential to become
quite big.  This however involves a learning curve for me in developing
applications for mobile phones but I am sure I can get to grips with this.
 The way I see this working is that the user will enter a code and message
on the phone application (or even just send it as an SMS which saves me the
mobile application piece) and press send and this message will be stored in
a MS Access or SQL Database, the part I can't see is how the message will
get from the phone application into the database, I can't seem to see a way
of avoiding a third party software.  I envisaged the application to send
the message as an SMS and appear in an email, where my server side
application would scan for new emails, then if found would write some of
the contents to the database.

Is this possible to achieve without a third party software solution,
bearing in mind that the phones sending the SMS could have a variety of
providers as in O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile etc etc.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 13 22:57:52 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 22:57:52 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <98594115.9577001.1392334483281.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <98594115.9577001.1392334483281.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <52FDA250.3070900@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-13 5:34 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> You are hardly an average software user by any stretch of the imagination. Pretty well any OS is easy for us...but then again there is Windows 8.x and though I can not personally collaborate your experiences, your comments sound so familiar coming from friends, still in the business and other business acquaintances.
>
> I feel if your code is open source, your software's security has to rely on code quality and not on code obfuscation.

Yep.

> Apple has recently announced that its software upgrades are free for as long as you own the hardware. With Linux/Android upgrades, on all platforms obviously free...this pay as you go and take your chances model of OS upgrading is now the private preserve of Microsoft. Is it sustainable?

Nope.

PB

-----

>   
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:59:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
>
> On 2014-02-13 1:02 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi Arthur:
>>
>> As to comment to your observation, I will relate a tale from a couple of nights ago.
>>
>> We have a semi-month Geek meeting that happens at a local Starbucks and we discuss such things as software, electronics and what new in science. I am sure the other patron of the establishment just roll their eyes when we visit. ;-)
>>
>> That particular night, only three of us could come as two were sick, one had a prior engagement and one had to be in a remote town, to solve a software problem (How to migrate a depreciated version of Microsoft small business server to server 2012...the online manuals are not correct and Microsoft's support is at a total loss...but that is another subject.)
>>
>> Anyway, one of my friends had brought along his computer. He was trying to get a circuit board application running and he was having no success. He had recently installed Linux Mint on his laptop was having one problem after another so we decided to take a look.
>>
>> The solutions to the problems were simple. Within a few minutes both my friends and two more university students were clustered around asking question. They asked if I was a Linux expert...hardly, but I agreed to attempt to answer any question they poised. I had braced myself for some complex Linux issues but all the questions were just simple softball requests...how to view hidden file, how to place an icon on the desktop, how to change ownership of a file, where are all the program files stored, how to connect to a network, how to change the default storage locations, how to get help on a Linux computer (built in "man") and so on...all very basic stuff.
>>
>> The two young fellows, from the university were not taking computer science and the students that were, according to them, had no interest in helping. They even asked if I would be interested in giving a course in Linux but I am leery of that as with the first difficult question, I would be Googling. It seems that few people even understand Linux, even the very simple stuff...to my way of thinking it is even simpler than Windows but over the twenty years that Windows has been around, its design and functionality has become a standard.
>>
>> I am sure the people at Microsoft must be pulling their hair out by the roots, in frustration, at the rejection of Windows 8.x. It is really simple to use but it is just not traditional Windows and just like Linux, people, except the Geeks, do not like anything new.
> Well, when I first saw Win8 I rilly liked its clean, elegant look. It
> made me smile. So I guess I don't quite count as one of those who "do
> not like anything new".
>
> Trying to get basic things done on Win8 has turned me against it, with
> malice. Why?
>
> 1. Basic Windows tasks I'd overlearnt how to do from the Start menu or
> in Explorer became in Win8 timewastingly mysterious, headbanging nightmares.
>
> 2. Win8 continues the security cockup begun in Vista and worsened in
> Win7---design for a secret-obsessed corporate world where access to all
> files & folders can be specifically scoped by controlling managers,
> optimised for a network where all boxes run Win8. At Microsoft this
> latter "feature" seems to be regarded as "marketing", but it's just MS's
> version of forced obsolescence. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg
> "security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and
> Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively
> as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.
>
> "1984" is not a good model for personal computing.
>
> PB
>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 13 23:03:05 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 23:03:05 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <s2fd3848.090@cactus.dk>
References: <s2fd3848.090@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <52FDA389.4030003@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-13 2:25 PM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> That is true.
>
> Some years ago I finally bite the bullet and installed Active Directory. It takes a little but saves so much trouble later. Highly recommended.

According to TechNet, it requires Windows Server 2003||2008||2012.

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 13-02-14 20:59 >>>
> .. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg
> "security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Thu Feb 13 23:04:51 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 05:04:51 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Test
Message-ID: <CALGJE97kVNKwHiFEDJdPqmsU4TyyGNfLkPHM_kqOVrMey9xVzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Can't see my emails!!!!!!!

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 13 23:10:07 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 22:10:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <40CF8F74179841F29823AB1DFD95D2C6@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <634124589.9813648.1392354607174.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Rocky:

To be honest you are in a real tough spot but, as I understand it versions of Access 2010 and less, which still have full coding capabilities and as long as those version are still in the sales pipeline, they will still be available....whether they will be supported on Windows 8.x is a question I can not answer.

I run my Access 2003 on my Ubuntu 13.10 version, under Wine, a Windows emulator and it works just fine. It did take a bit of moving things around and copying dlls and APIs but in the end everything just worked. The next time I need to install Access 2003, on to a client's Linux computer, I just cut and past the Wine layout.

I am sure that process could be followed for virtually any MS Access version. First install the version on your Windows computre, go to the Linux box with Wine emulator installed, then attempt to install the same Access version and at each error, either create the appropriate directory and/or insert the correct file...there undoubtedly will be a few files missing (MS Access uses or changes many of the already existing Windows files and does not install them itself...but it needs them so it can work). 

The whole process was fairly easy as the install told me what file(s) was missing and I then created a directory if necessary and dropped the missing file into place...felt like 15 minute but the process probably took an hour. I could then roll out MS Access on a Linux box by just copying the Access-Wine structure over and over and then you could just re-install, over each stations, the local MS Access licence and it would be all done and legal.

Hope this helps.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:13:17 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

Those of us who make a living from Access - what do we do?

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:16 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

Given all the free apps available on various Linux flavours, as well as the
user-friendly downloads of Ubuntu, Mint and others, and the costs of
training the user-base to adapt to Linux vs. the costs of training said base
to learn Windows 8, for me at least this is a no-brainer.

I recommend to all my clients and friends who are open-minded, to switch to
Linux and forget once and for all about costly updates to all the essential
components that describe your environment.

The various Linux installations have all pretty much achieved no-brainer
status. LibreOffice can do anything Office can do. Linux in any variant has
made it, and IMO has eclipsed Windows+Office. There's no longer a contest
any more. The real question is "How can MS respond? And the available
answers are:

a) the Ostrich strategy: stick your head in the sand and hope for the
best.Given the animosity MS has created in the world of Access developers,
not to mention those in the Excel and Word  3P communities, I see no future
in this avenue.

b) Offer future versions of Windows and Office for free (two chances of
that: a fat one and a slim one).

Long story short, I see no future in betting on Microsoft, and I say this
sadly, since for most of the past 20+ years I have made my income in betting
on MS. But I no longer see that as a viable play. The more I examine the
terrain, the more I feel that Ubuntu + Libre + various other packages
comprise the most viable solution, for everything from Mom 'n' Pop to Large
Scale Businesses.

There is a cost-of-transition, no doubt about it. But compared with the MS
licensing fees, this transition cost is trivial. An organization can adopt
Linux, LibreOffice and MySQL for free and forever. Punch an accountant and
ask her to wake up and smell her coffee, and further to test said
implementation on any available disposable machine, or even a VM (which is
also free, such as Oracle's VirtualBox).

In short, there is no contest. All that remains is the will-power of the IT
people in the given organization.

Arthur
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Feb 13 23:29:29 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:29:29 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <634124589.9813648.1392354607174.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <40CF8F74179841F29823AB1DFD95D2C6@HAL9007>,
	<634124589.9813648.1392354607174.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <52FDA9B9.8117.388716D3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

They don't even need to still be in the sales pipeline,

As long as you still have a full Access2010 and a copy of the re-distributable runtime to 
distribute with your .accde, you are good to go (if you make it the 64 bit version, it will 
probably be good for the next 10-15 years, even afer MS drops eventually drops 32bit 
support)

Incidentally, I just did some updates over the last few days on an Access 97 system that has 
been constantly enhanced over the last 15 years.   (And yes, there are reasons why it still has 
to stay in A97 for at least another 6-12 months).


-- 
Stuart


On 13 Feb 2014 at 22:10, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Rocky:
> 
> To be honest you are in a real tough spot but, as I understand it
> versions of Access 2010 and less, which still have full coding
> capabilities and as long as those version are still in the sales
> pipeline, they will still be available....whether they will be
> supported on Windows 8.x is a question I can not answer.
> 


From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Thu Feb 13 23:58:56 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 05:58:56 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <634124589.9813648.1392354607174.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <40CF8F74179841F29823AB1DFD95D2C6@HAL9007>
	<634124589.9813648.1392354607174.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CALGJE95ZxmqZYrNx4V6NxoLZ+Do-QhCma_g733fVN_7B0kEQyw@mail.gmail.com>

sorry for jumping in here, but I have sent two messages to the tech list
one with subject of Send SMS From Mobile Into MS Access Or SQL Database and
the other with test have these appeared on the list.

TIA,

Paul


On 14 February 2014 05:10, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Rocky:
>
> To be honest you are in a real tough spot but, as I understand it versions
> of Access 2010 and less, which still have full coding capabilities and as
> long as those version are still in the sales pipeline, they will still be
> available....whether they will be supported on Windows 8.x is a question I
> can not answer.
>
> I run my Access 2003 on my Ubuntu 13.10 version, under Wine, a Windows
> emulator and it works just fine. It did take a bit of moving things around
> and copying dlls and APIs but in the end everything just worked. The next
> time I need to install Access 2003, on to a client's Linux computer, I just
> cut and past the Wine layout.
>
> I am sure that process could be followed for virtually any MS Access
> version. First install the version on your Windows computre, go to the
> Linux box with Wine emulator installed, then attempt to install the same
> Access version and at each error, either create the appropriate directory
> and/or insert the correct file...there undoubtedly will be a few files
> missing (MS Access uses or changes many of the already existing Windows
> files and does not install them itself...but it needs them so it can work).
>
> The whole process was fairly easy as the install told me what file(s) was
> missing and I then created a directory if necessary and dropped the missing
> file into place...felt like 15 minute but the process probably took an
> hour. I could then roll out MS Access on a Linux box by just copying the
> Access-Wine structure over and over and then you could just re-install,
> over each stations, the local MS Access licence and it would be all done
> and legal.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:13:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
>
> Those of us who make a living from Access - what do we do?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:16 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
>
> Given all the free apps available on various Linux flavours, as well as the
> user-friendly downloads of Ubuntu, Mint and others, and the costs of
> training the user-base to adapt to Linux vs. the costs of training said
> base
> to learn Windows 8, for me at least this is a no-brainer.
>
> I recommend to all my clients and friends who are open-minded, to switch to
> Linux and forget once and for all about costly updates to all the essential
> components that describe your environment.
>
> The various Linux installations have all pretty much achieved no-brainer
> status. LibreOffice can do anything Office can do. Linux in any variant has
> made it, and IMO has eclipsed Windows+Office. There's no longer a contest
> any more. The real question is "How can MS respond? And the available
> answers are:
>
> a) the Ostrich strategy: stick your head in the sand and hope for the
> best.Given the animosity MS has created in the world of Access developers,
> not to mention those in the Excel and Word  3P communities, I see no future
> in this avenue.
>
> b) Offer future versions of Windows and Office for free (two chances of
> that: a fat one and a slim one).
>
> Long story short, I see no future in betting on Microsoft, and I say this
> sadly, since for most of the past 20+ years I have made my income in
> betting
> on MS. But I no longer see that as a viable play. The more I examine the
> terrain, the more I feel that Ubuntu + Libre + various other packages
> comprise the most viable solution, for everything from Mom 'n' Pop to Large
> Scale Businesses.
>
> There is a cost-of-transition, no doubt about it. But compared with the MS
> licensing fees, this transition cost is trivial. An organization can adopt
> Linux, LibreOffice and MySQL for free and forever. Punch an accountant and
> ask her to wake up and smell her coffee, and further to test said
> implementation on any available disposable machine, or even a VM (which is
> also free, such as Oracle's VirtualBox).
>
> In short, there is no contest. All that remains is the will-power of the IT
> people in the given organization.
>
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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>



-- 
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paul.hartland at googlemail.com

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Feb 14 00:03:03 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:03:03 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_=22Why_There_Will_Never_Be_Another_Re?=
 =?utf-8?q?dHat=3A_The_Economics_Of_Open_Source=22?=
Message-ID: <1392357783.259916816@f169.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

To OSS or not to OSS? Here is the analysis and the answer from the business standpoint:


" Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"

http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/13/please-dont-tell-me-you-want-to-be-the-next-red-hat/


Do you agree?

-- 
???????????? ??????

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 14 00:08:21 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:08:21 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send SMS From Mobile Into MS Access Or SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52FDB2D5.5090700@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-13 10:55 PM, Paul Hartland wrote:
> To all,
>
> I am working on a little project, which if works has potential to become
> quite big.  This however involves a learning curve for me in developing
> applications for mobile phones but I am sure I can get to grips with this.
>   The way I see this working is that the user will enter a code and message
> on the phone application (or even just send it as an SMS which saves me the
> mobile application piece) and press send and this message will be stored in
> a MS Access or SQL Database, the part I can't see is how the message will
> get from the phone application into the database, I can't seem to see a way
> of avoiding a third party software.  I envisaged the application to send
> the message as an SMS and appear in an email, where my server side
> application would scan for new emails, then if found would write some of
> the contents to the database.
>
> Is this possible to achieve without a third party software solution,
> bearing in mind that the phones sending the SMS could have a variety of
> providers as in O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile etc etc.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Once you have an SMS Gateway, you can retrieve messages with PHP and 
save them to a MySQL DB (for example) with standard mysqli API calls. 
AFAIK there's no avoiding the need for the gateway.

PB

----
>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 14 00:16:34 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 23:16:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <52FDA389.4030003@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <503658344.9844708.1392358594335.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Peter:

Active Directory is essentially kerberos + ldap, both of which originated on Unix so in theory you should be able to just run up a Linux Server with Samba, version 4. (http://www.samba.org)...Active directory features can be compiled in it. I have never bothered to set up AD on a Linux box so unfortunately my knowledge is limited. 

With a Ubuntu Linux server, all you would need is an old box and you could have your print, mail, database, backup, VPN, domain and authentication server all on a minimum computer of 128 MB of RAM and one GB of hard drive space.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:03:05 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

On 2014-02-13 2:25 PM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> That is true.
>
> Some years ago I finally bite the bullet and installed Active Directory. It takes a little but saves so much trouble later. Highly recommended.

According to TechNet, it requires Windows Server 2003||2008||2012.

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 13-02-14 20:59 >>>
> .. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg
> "security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Fri Feb 14 00:57:35 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 06:57:35 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send SMS From Mobile Into MS Access Or SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <52FDB2D5.5090700@earthlink.net>
References: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<52FDB2D5.5090700@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CALGJE973bM_EQ0g7aQWxdTd_-=eajNBQX9GDt=mnfaEqwkit-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah was afraid of that thank you, will have to look into the additional
costs then, but could still be more cost effective than some other
companies offering a similar service for clients.

Paul


On 14 February 2014 06:08, Peter Brawley <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>wrote:

> On 2014-02-13 10:55 PM, Paul Hartland wrote:
>
>> To all,
>>
>> I am working on a little project, which if works has potential to become
>> quite big.  This however involves a learning curve for me in developing
>> applications for mobile phones but I am sure I can get to grips with this.
>>   The way I see this working is that the user will enter a code and
>> message
>> on the phone application (or even just send it as an SMS which saves me
>> the
>> mobile application piece) and press send and this message will be stored
>> in
>> a MS Access or SQL Database, the part I can't see is how the message will
>> get from the phone application into the database, I can't seem to see a
>> way
>> of avoiding a third party software.  I envisaged the application to send
>> the message as an SMS and appear in an email, where my server side
>> application would scan for new emails, then if found would write some of
>> the contents to the database.
>>
>> Is this possible to achieve without a third party software solution,
>> bearing in mind that the phones sending the SMS could have a variety of
>> providers as in O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile etc etc.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>>
>
> Once you have an SMS Gateway, you can retrieve messages with PHP and save
> them to a MySQL DB (for example) with standard mysqli API calls. AFAIK
> there's no avoiding the need for the gateway.
>
> PB
>
> ----
>
>>
>>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 14 01:03:23 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:03:23 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <503658344.9844708.1392358594335.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <503658344.9844708.1392358594335.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <52FDBFBB.1010109@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-14 12:16 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> Active Directory is essentially kerberos + ldap, both of which originated on Unix so in theory you should be able to just run up a Linux Server with Samba, version 4. (http://www.samba.org)...Active directory features can be compiled in it. I have never bothered to set up AD on a Linux box so unfortunately my knowledge is limited.
>
> With a Ubuntu Linux server, all you would need is an old box and you could have your print, mail, database, backup, VPN, domain and authentication server all on a minimum computer of 128 MB of RAM and one GB of hard drive space.

Thanks, next time I have to add or change a box on this network, I'll 
look at that.

PB

-----

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:03:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
>
> On 2014-02-13 2:25 PM, Gustav Brock wrote:
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> That is true.
>>
>> Some years ago I finally bite the bullet and installed Active Directory. It takes a little but saves so much trouble later. Highly recommended.
> According to TechNet, it requires Windows Server 2003||2008||2012.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> /gustav
>>
>>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 13-02-14 20:59 >>>
>> .. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg
>> "security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively as one integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.
>>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Feb 14 01:05:47 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:05:47 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send SMS From Mobile Into MS Access Or SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52FDC04B.29453.38DF4286@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Writing the app to send the data from an Android mobile device is quite simple with 
Basic4Android.   :-) 

You can do it in at least four  ways that I can think of:

1. SMS
2. Email
3. HTTP Post message
4. FTP.

There are B4A libraries to use all of these methods quite simply, so the hard part is getting 
the data into the database at the receiving end.  Solutions would be:

1.  SMS:    Either an SMS to EMail gateway , in which case t is the same subsequent solution 
as 2, or a GPRS device and SIM card to receive the SMS on the PC - that will require 3rd 
party software and an interface between that software and your database. IOW, not simple.

2.  Email.  Device sends an email to a dedicated address.  An app on the database server 
polls the mailbox, downloads any emails, strips out the content and puts it into the database 
(that's exactly how we handle the PNG National Election results - using an application I wrote 
in PowerBASIC to do the polling/data transfer)

3.  HTTP Post message - device sends a  HTTP  message to a web server's simple PHP 
page which accepts the post data and drops it into a database. Code to send the message is 
very simple to write. If you have a webserver available with PHP, the webpage is also very 
simple to write.

4. FTP.    Fairly simple to write something to transfer the data to an FTP server.  You then 
use a similar approach to 2 above to poll the FTP server for new files and download and 
parse the data  from the server .    


Option 3 is definitely the simplest to implement if you have the web server. You can put 
WAMP on a machine inside your network listening on a high port number and forward that 
port on your router for a fairly solid, secure solution to getting the data in real time ( i.e. no 
need for periodic polling)
   



On 14 Feb 2014 at 4:55, Paul Hartland wrote:

> To all,
> 
> I am working on a little project, which if works has potential to
> become quite big.  This however involves a learning curve for me in
> developing applications for mobile phones but I am sure I can get to
> grips with this.
>  The way I see this working is that the user will enter a code and
>  message
> on the phone application (or even just send it as an SMS which saves
> me the mobile application piece) and press send and this message will
> be stored in a MS Access or SQL Database, the part I can't see is how
> the message will get from the phone application into the database, I
> can't seem to see a way of avoiding a third party software.  I
> envisaged the application to send the message as an SMS and appear in
> an email, where my server side application would scan for new emails,
> then if found would write some of the contents to the database.
> 
> Is this possible to achieve without a third party software solution,
> bearing in mind that the phones sending the SMS could have a variety
> of providers as in O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile etc etc.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
> 
> -- 
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Feb 14 01:34:45 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:34:45 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
Message-ID: <001601cf2957$3d3cc4c0$b7b64e40$@cactus.dk>

Hi Peter

Certainly. What we do for a new workstation is to install it using a generic
admin account so we always will be able to access the machine. This will
later only be used for rescue.
Then the machine is joined to the AD. This requires credentials for a Domain
Admin. This user will at once have admin rights for the machine and is used
for all later work that requires elevated privileges.
>From this point any user of the AD can log on the machine, group policies
will be applied (mapped drives and printers etc.), and the user will have
access to all assigned resources. When you - the domain admin - change
these, they are applied globally at once.

The AD is rock stable. We run it from two virtual W2003 servers (I know,
they should be physical, but it works) but you could use any old and stable
hardware capable of launching W2003 as they - for a small shop - run under
nearly zero workload. As Jim points out, I believe Samba can be used as
well:

    https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_AD_DC_HOWTO

This is so much easier than muffing with the not so stable Workgroup and
local users.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Peter Brawley
Sendt: 13. februar 2014 23:20
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

On 2014-02-13 2:25 PM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> That is true.
>
> Some years ago I finally bite the bullet and installed Active Directory.
It takes a little but saves so much trouble later. Highly recommended.

That would /simplify/ opening all XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes to one another?

PB


>
> /gustav
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 13-02-14 20:59 >>>
> .. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg
> "security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and Win8
boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively as one
integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.
 




From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Fri Feb 14 02:00:14 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:00:14 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send SMS From Mobile Into MS Access Or SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <52FDC04B.29453.38DF4286@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<52FDC04B.29453.38DF4286@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CALGJE955hmNahbAjh8bms-s5zk980rfV5wWr6VLhwncMzkjNcw@mail.gmail.com>

Stuart,

I have looked at no 3 but don't want to mess with web servers at present as
I just have a single PC that I use at home at present and not too clever on
the security aspects etc as I know very little about networks, for a little
test last year I installed apache on my machine and wrote a simple web page
that people could see, but a network friend of mine said if I hadn't got an
external firewall box then I am open to security risks.  Anyway the reason
I am looking at SMS to email or directly into database is because email
will require a connection to wi-fi or mobile data where an SMS just
requires a phone signal, but I have thought about a mobile app which will
accept the code and message then when the user presses send, turns the
mobile data on, sends the email and turns the mobile data off, but again
this could result in cost to the phone user where I imagine the majority of
people have unlimited texts nowadays plus you mention basic4android when I
could not guarantee the phone would be android and could be blackberry,
IOS, Windows phone or android, unless of course an application developed on
basic4android would work on all those.  Which brings me back to SMS which
will convert into an email or some gateway where my application at the
client site would scan every x seconds for new email and strip the contents
out to a database, I did use a third party tool called SMS2Email at my last
place of work for sending out SMS via email, but was hoping to avoid a
third party for turning an SMS into an email.

I am just stuck on the getting the data from any mobile device to the
client site as the software for the client side I can develop in a couple
of hours max.

Paul



On 14 February 2014 07:05, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:

> Writing the app to send the data from an Android mobile device is quite
> simple with
> Basic4Android.   :-)
>
> You can do it in at least four  ways that I can think of:
>
> 1. SMS
> 2. Email
> 3. HTTP Post message
> 4. FTP.
>
> There are B4A libraries to use all of these methods quite simply, so the
> hard part is getting
> the data into the database at the receiving end.  Solutions would be:
>
> 1.  SMS:    Either an SMS to EMail gateway , in which case t is the same
> subsequent solution
> as 2, or a GPRS device and SIM card to receive the SMS on the PC - that
> will require 3rd
> party software and an interface between that software and your database.
> IOW, not simple.
>
> 2.  Email.  Device sends an email to a dedicated address.  An app on the
> database server
> polls the mailbox, downloads any emails, strips out the content and puts
> it into the database
> (that's exactly how we handle the PNG National Election results - using an
> application I wrote
> in PowerBASIC to do the polling/data transfer)
>
> 3.  HTTP Post message - device sends a  HTTP  message to a web server's
> simple PHP
> page which accepts the post data and drops it into a database. Code to
> send the message is
> very simple to write. If you have a webserver available with PHP, the
> webpage is also very
> simple to write.
>
> 4. FTP.    Fairly simple to write something to transfer the data to an FTP
> server.  You then
> use a similar approach to 2 above to poll the FTP server for new files and
> download and
> parse the data  from the server .
>
>
> Option 3 is definitely the simplest to implement if you have the web
> server. You can put
> WAMP on a machine inside your network listening on a high port number and
> forward that
> port on your router for a fairly solid, secure solution to getting the
> data in real time ( i.e. no
> need for periodic polling)
>
>
>
>
> On 14 Feb 2014 at 4:55, Paul Hartland wrote:
>
> > To all,
> >
> > I am working on a little project, which if works has potential to
> > become quite big.  This however involves a learning curve for me in
> > developing applications for mobile phones but I am sure I can get to
> > grips with this.
> >  The way I see this working is that the user will enter a code and
> >  message
> > on the phone application (or even just send it as an SMS which saves
> > me the mobile application piece) and press send and this message will
> > be stored in a MS Access or SQL Database, the part I can't see is how
> > the message will get from the phone application into the database, I
> > can't seem to see a way of avoiding a third party software.  I
> > envisaged the application to send the message as an SMS and appear in
> > an email, where my server side application would scan for new emails,
> > then if found would write some of the contents to the database.
> >
> > Is this possible to achieve without a third party software solution,
> > bearing in mind that the phones sending the SMS could have a variety
> > of providers as in O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile etc etc.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Hartland
> > paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
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From eptept at gmail.com  Fri Feb 14 05:09:16 2014
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 06:09:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Test
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE97kVNKwHiFEDJdPqmsU4TyyGNfLkPHM_kqOVrMey9xVzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE97kVNKwHiFEDJdPqmsU4TyyGNfLkPHM_kqOVrMey9xVzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpX6FrBhdOMgMryuWMuaFGJ6TgjPM4x+8NW72qFjTBAsOQ@mail.gmail.com>

You typically can't see your email until someone responds to it.  Is this
correct folks?


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Paul Hartland <
paul.hartland at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Can't see my emails!!!!!!!
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Fri Feb 14 05:12:11 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:12:11 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpX6FrBhdOMgMryuWMuaFGJ6TgjPM4x+8NW72qFjTBAsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE97kVNKwHiFEDJdPqmsU4TyyGNfLkPHM_kqOVrMey9xVzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpX6FrBhdOMgMryuWMuaFGJ6TgjPM4x+8NW72qFjTBAsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96535655cec24875ad7823c1a827c48b@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

When you subscribe, there's the option to see your own emails or not.

If you click the link at the bottom of the email, you'll be taken to the options where you can change that if you want.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:09 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Test

You typically can't see your email until someone responds to it.  Is this correct folks?


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Paul Hartland < paul.hartland at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Can't see my emails!!!!!!!
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 14 05:07:34 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:07:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The
 Economics Of Open Source"
In-Reply-To: <1392357783.259916816@f169.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1326494231.9924248.1392376054275.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

For last twenty years we have been reading and listening to such articles. Ever since IBM gave the fledgling Linux community and its GPL licensing unlimited resource in its legal fight against Microsoft (Steve Ballmer) who wanted to wipe it out as an affront to the free-enterprise system.

Then there were just a few OSS applications on the market. The market has kept growing into dozens of OSS products, then the computer age grew to thousands, hundreds of thousand and I believe now there are millions of open source applications...dozens more ever day. If you look closely at the market, with but a few exceptions it is all OSS. All the new startups are created with OSS products and programs through the OS GitHub. Our future in computers now depends on the Open Source world. All the latest advancements in computer technology are OSS much of it created out of our schools and universities.

The writer of this article just has no comprehension of the driving force behind the Open Source...it is not all to do with money. He does not understand what would drive the best programmers in the world to keep building and designing with little chance of financial profit or for the most profitable companies in the business to keep giving away huge amounts of cash to keep the Open Source Software world growing.   

The fellow was smart enough to not combine the Amazon and Amazon's Cloud services together, or include facebook or Google or even Oracle or Apple who, if not all, a major portion of the companies are built on OSS. Virtually all the internet is built on OSS, all its support products, all the new operating systems, most of the servers, most of the smartphones OS. If there was not open source software, the industry would collapse or have never existed.

The big for profit companies have of course always felt threatened by the whole OSS world. Even Microsoft, the last big bastion of proprietary software, would never have the Azure Cloud, if it were not for Open Source software which runs it...or even Oracle which has most of their databases running on top of Linux and then Amazon which is an open source shop. There are no major programming languages, that I know of that are not free to use...yes even C# and F#, such is the OSS world and the influence it commands. One day even Microsoft may be an Open Source shop and like all open source shops, give away their platforms or sell them for nominal fees and just sell services, advertisements, data collected and hardware...and  looking at the trends it might be sooner than later.  

In conclusion, the writer of this article has got it completely backwards and appears to not have a clue of what he is writing about.
  
Jim      

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:03:03 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"

 Hi All --

To OSS or not to OSS? Here is the analysis and the answer from the business standpoint:


" Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"

http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/13/please-dont-tell-me-you-want-to-be-the-next-red-hat/


Do you agree?

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Feb 14 05:41:49 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:41:49 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send SMS From Mobile Into MS Access Or SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE955hmNahbAjh8bms-s5zk980rfV5wWr6VLhwncMzkjNcw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<52FDC04B.29453.38DF4286@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<CALGJE955hmNahbAjh8bms-s5zk980rfV5wWr6VLhwncMzkjNcw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52FE00FD.12271.39DBF640@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Ok, if you want to go with SMS from the device, your best bet is to instal an SMS server on 
your machine.   I did a lot of work on premium rate SMS services a few years using this:

http://www.activexperts.com/mmserver/

but it is over kill in your situation.  A quick google turned up this one:

http://www.diafaan.com/  which looks as though it will do everything your want and much 
more.  (Primarily, automatically log your incoming SMSs into SQL Server/Access/MySQL etc 
database)

$195 for the Light version plus a GSM modem and SIM card and you are in business.  (and 
you get a 30 day freee trial)

GSM modems for $30-40 : http://www.ebay.com/bhp/usb-gsm-modem

SIM card from your choice of carrier in your location: $????


-- 
Stuart

On 14 Feb 2014 at 8:00, Paul Hartland wrote:

> Stuart,
> 
> I have looked at no 3 but don't want to mess with web servers at
> present as I just have a single PC that I use at home at present and
> not too clever on the security aspects etc as I know very little about
> networks, for a little test last year I installed apache on my machine
> and wrote a simple web page that people could see, but a network
> friend of mine said if I hadn't got an external firewall box then I am
> open to security risks.  Anyway the reason I am looking at SMS to
> email or directly into database is because email will require a
> connection to wi-fi or mobile data where an SMS just requires a phone
> signal, but I have thought about a mobile app which will accept the
> code and message then when the user presses send, turns the mobile
> data on, sends the email and turns the mobile data off, but again this
> could result in cost to the phone user where I imagine the majority of
> people have unlimited texts nowadays plus you mention basic4android
> when I could not guarantee the phone would be android and could be
> blackberry, IOS, Windows phone or android, unless of course an
> application developed on basic4android would work on all those.  Which
> brings me back to SMS which will convert into an email or some gateway
> where my application at the client site would scan every x seconds for
> new email and strip the contents out to a database, I did use a third
> party tool called SMS2Email at my last place of work for sending out
> SMS via email, but was hoping to avoid a third party for turning an
> SMS into an email.
> 
> I am just stuck on the getting the data from any mobile device to the
> client site as the software for the client side I can develop in a
> couple of hours max.
> 
> Paul
> 


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Feb 14 06:58:16 2014
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:58:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Test
In-Reply-To: <96535655cec24875ad7823c1a827c48b@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <CALGJE97kVNKwHiFEDJdPqmsU4TyyGNfLkPHM_kqOVrMey9xVzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpX6FrBhdOMgMryuWMuaFGJ6TgjPM4x+8NW72qFjTBAsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<96535655cec24875ad7823c1a827c48b@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWHmPZot30zM7jETkA8seFzCR+QhHWAcA4AxY91Lm7jd-Q@mail.gmail.com>

GMail has a "feature" that it doesn't show you your original post,
until, as Ed said, someone replies to it.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
<jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:
> When you subscribe, there's the option to see your own emails or not.
>
> If you click the link at the bottom of the email, you'll be taken to the options where you can change that if you want.
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> You typically can't see your email until someone responds to it.  Is this correct folks?
>
>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Feb 14 08:11:01 2014
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:11:01 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWHmPZot30zM7jETkA8seFzCR+QhHWAcA4AxY91Lm7jd-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE97kVNKwHiFEDJdPqmsU4TyyGNfLkPHM_kqOVrMey9xVzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpX6FrBhdOMgMryuWMuaFGJ6TgjPM4x+8NW72qFjTBAsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<96535655cec24875ad7823c1a827c48b@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<CAAZtbWHmPZot30zM7jETkA8seFzCR+QhHWAcA4AxY91Lm7jd-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pJWonaAAzc7WqRt_PB4H-LG=BG196dwamSsjd=ch7L6ww@mail.gmail.com>

Unless you look at sent.

GK


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>wrote:

> GMail has a "feature" that it doesn't show you your original post,
> until, as Ed said, someone replies to it.
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
> <jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:
> > When you subscribe, there's the option to see your own emails or not.
> >
> > If you click the link at the bottom of the email, you'll be taken to the
> options where you can change that if you want.
> >
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny
> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:09 AM
> > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Test
> >
> > You typically can't see your email until someone responds to it.  Is
> this correct folks?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Paul Hartland <
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Can't see my emails!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Paul Hartland
> >> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> >> _______________________________________________
>


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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Feb 14 09:52:33 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:52:33 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_=22Why_There_Will_Never_Be_Another_Re?=
 =?utf-8?q?dHat=3A_The_Economics_Of_Open_Source=22?=
In-Reply-To: <1326494231.9924248.1392376054275.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1392357783.259916816@f169.i.mail.ru>
	<1326494231.9924248.1392376054275.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1392393153.835713691@f99.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

But the article is about profits from OSS and "closed source", OSS development companies (as RedHat LInux) profits vs. "closed source" companies as MS, *Apple*, *Google* - the latter two do use OSS but the main profits they get are based on closed/proprietary business - hardware for Apple, advertisements - for Google...

...so the author proposes to use the same strategies as Apple and Google: to use OSS as base for custom proprietary solutions.

-- Shamil

Friday, February 14, 2014 4:07 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>For last twenty years we have been reading and listening to such articles. Ever since IBM gave the fledgling Linux community and its GPL licensing unlimited resource in its legal fight against Microsoft (Steve Ballmer) who wanted to wipe it out as an affront to the free-enterprise system.
>
>Then there were just a few OSS applications on the market. The market has kept growing into dozens of OSS products, then the computer age grew to thousands, hundreds of thousand and I believe now there are millions of open source applications...dozens more ever day. If you look closely at the market, with but a few exceptions it is all OSS. All the new startups are created with OSS products and programs through the OS GitHub. Our future in computers now depends on the Open Source world. All the latest advancements in computer technology are OSS much of it created out of our schools and universities.
>
>The writer of this article just has no comprehension of the driving force behind the Open Source...it is not all to do with money. He does not understand what would drive the best programmers in the world to keep building and designing with little chance of financial profit or for the most profitable companies in the business to keep giving away huge amounts of cash to keep the Open Source Software world growing. 
>
>The fellow was smart enough to not combine the Amazon and Amazon's Cloud services together, or include facebook or Google or even Oracle or Apple who, if not all, a major portion of the companies are built on OSS. Virtually all the internet is built on OSS, all its support products, all the new operating systems, most of the servers, most of the smartphones OS. If there was not open source software, the industry would collapse or have never existed.
>
>The big for profit companies have of course always felt threatened by the whole OSS world. Even Microsoft, the last big bastion of proprietary software, would never have the Azure Cloud, if it were not for Open Source software which runs it...or even Oracle which has most of their databases running on top of Linux and then Amazon which is an open source shop. There are no major programming languages, that I know of that are not free to use...yes even C# and F#, such is the OSS world and the influence it commands. One day even Microsoft may be an Open Source shop and like all open source shops, give away their platforms or sell them for nominal fees and just sell services, advertisements, data collected and hardware...and  looking at the trends it might be sooner than later. 
>
>In conclusion, the writer of this article has got it completely backwards and appears to not have a clue of what he is writing about.
>??
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:03:03 PM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"
>
>?Hi All --
>
>To OSS or not to OSS? Here is the analysis and the answer from the business standpoint:
>
>
>" Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"
>
>http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/13/please-dont-tell-me-you-want-to-be-the-next-red-hat/
>
>
>Do you agree?
>
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Fri Feb 14 10:20:16 2014
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:20:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52FE4240.4010700@torchlake.com>

Definitely interesting.  I hope to see more breakthroughs in the 
future.  The thing that puzzles me is the question of containment.  How 
to contain something that operates at temperatures and pressures 
equivalent to those found in the core of the sun?  Fascinating stuff - 
thanks for sharing.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/13/2014 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> A very interesting read can be found at this link:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-as-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/
>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 14 11:09:16 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:09:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The worlds largest
In-Reply-To: <52FE00FD.12271.39DBF640@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1600946215.10249686.1392397756409.JavaMail.root@cds002>

The worlds largest solar plant just opened and it can supply upper of 140,000 homes with their power needs.

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25134528/huge-ivanpah-solar-power-plant-opens-industry-booms

Undoubtedly, this is just the start.
  
Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 14 12:39:54 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:39:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm
In-Reply-To: <001601cf2957$3d3cc4c0$b7b64e40$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <80630866.10372822.1392403194774.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Guys:

Was just reading the following article and thought about the situation of needing Active Directory. 

It seems that DropBox now has a secure, encrypted(?) enterprise Cloud based solution which even supports a Cloud-based(?) AD.

http://gigaom.com/2013/06/27/news-flash-dropbox-still-wants-to-be-the-dropbox-of-the-enterprise

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:34:45 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

Hi Peter

Certainly. What we do for a new workstation is to install it using a generic
admin account so we always will be able to access the machine. This will
later only be used for rescue.
Then the machine is joined to the AD. This requires credentials for a Domain
Admin. This user will at once have admin rights for the machine and is used
for all later work that requires elevated privileges.
>From this point any user of the AD can log on the machine, group policies
will be applied (mapped drives and printers etc.), and the user will have
access to all assigned resources. When you - the domain admin - change
these, they are applied globally at once.

The AD is rock stable. We run it from two virtual W2003 servers (I know,
they should be physical, but it works) but you could use any old and stable
hardware capable of launching W2003 as they - for a small shop - run under
nearly zero workload. As Jim points out, I believe Samba can be used as
well:

    https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_AD_DC_HOWTO

This is so much easier than muffing with the not so stable Workgroup and
local users.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Peter Brawley
Sendt: 13. februar 2014 23:20
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] The perfect storm

On 2014-02-13 2:25 PM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> That is true.
>
> Some years ago I finally bite the bullet and installed Active Directory.
It takes a little but saves so much trouble later. Highly recommended.

That would /simplify/ opening all XP, Win7 and Win8 boxes to one another?

PB


>
> /gustav
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 13-02-14 20:59 >>>
> .. To defeat Win8 Rube Goldberg
> "security"---for example in order to allow a network of XP, Win7 and Win8
boxes and their printers & other addons to function cooperatively as one
integrated, open-access system---takes hours and hours.
 



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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Feb 14 14:58:12 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:58:12 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
In-Reply-To: <52FE4240.4010700@torchlake.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
	<52FE4240.4010700@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <7335AC58EBBE4AA7ADCF689B5A0CA1AA@HAL9007>

Noah could tell you because he's been interning at General Atomics for a
year now doing research on how to keep the plasma cloud stable.  Here's the
abstract of the research he presented at the American Physical Society
conference in Denver last November:



It's contained in a very powerful magnetic field.


 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:20 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer

Definitely interesting.  I hope to see more breakthroughs in the future.
The thing that puzzles me is the question of containment.  How to contain
something that operates at temperatures and pressures equivalent to those
found in the core of the sun?  Fascinating stuff - thanks for sharing.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/13/2014 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> A very interesting read can be found at this link:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-a
> s-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/
>

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Feb 14 14:59:00 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:59:00 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>
	<52FE4240.4010700@torchlake.com> 
Message-ID: <B12CB006EFE34606A6B4AFE28E7C36A9@HAL9007>

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:58 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer

Noah could tell you because he's been interning at General Atomics for a
year now doing research on how to keep the plasma cloud stable.  Here's the
abstract of the research he presented at the American Physical Society
conference in Denver last November:

http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/DPP13/Session/JP8.82

The plasma is contained in a very powerful magnetic field.

R

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:20 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer

Definitely interesting.  I hope to see more breakthroughs in the future.
The thing that puzzles me is the question of containment.  How to contain
something that operates at temperatures and pressures equivalent to those
found in the core of the sun?  Fascinating stuff - thanks for sharing.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/13/2014 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> A very interesting read can be found at this link:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-a
> s-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/
>

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Feb 14 16:17:23 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:17:23 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] The worlds largest
In-Reply-To: <1600946215.10249686.1392397756409.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <52FE00FD.12271.39DBF640@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<1600946215.10249686.1392397756409.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <52FE95F3.14721.3C21D7D3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Yep   

Four times the cost of a conventional power station but produces less power, depite large tax 
credits.

Takes up four time the area

Power cost  $260 per MWH after taxpayer subsidies  versus $100 for conventional power.

Dozens of dead birds already in just a few months of testing before full operation starts 
including falcons, grebes and hawks.

What's not to like about it.


The $2.2 Billion Bird-Scorching Solar Project 
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304703804579379230641329484?

On 14 Feb 2014 at 10:09, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> The worlds largest solar plant just opened and it can supply upper of
> 140,000 homes with their power needs.
> 
> http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25134528/huge-ivanpah-solar-pow
> er-plant-opens-industry-booms
> 
> Undoubtedly, this is just the start.
> 
> Jim
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Feb 14 16:30:03 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:30:03 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] The worlds largest
In-Reply-To: <52FE95F3.14721.3C21D7D3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <52FE00FD.12271.39DBF640@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<1600946215.10249686.1392397756409.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<52FE95F3.14721.3C21D7D3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <FC1F8B30D8F94C79BCED387790C145B8@HAL9007>

You know what was really a bad idea?  Those first cars.  Much more expensive
than horses.  We should never have started down that road (so to speak).  

Based on your observation that any new technology in spite of economies of
scale should be cheaper than the existing alternative first pop out of the
box, the whole car thing should never have happened.  Horses and wagons -
clean, cheap, organic.

R

P.S.  You sure you've got ALL the costs in that $100/MWH price?
Decommissioning costs?  Federal fuel subsidies? Etc., etc.,
etc.,etc.,etc...................  

P.P.S. I mean, if the cost is 4x a conventional power plant, then why it the
cost per MWH only 2.6 times?

P.P.P.S. Where are you getting these numbers?  From the power industry or
the coal, oil, and gas interests?

P.P.P.P.S. Check the factors included in costs - see if your numbers include
those: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source

Solar PV is 2-3x conventional - more or less. Today.  Given the lack of
economies of scale.  10 years from now if the naysayers and Luddites are
overruled by the progressives?



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 2:17 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The worlds largest

Yep   

Four times the cost of a conventional power station but produces less power,
depite large tax credits.

Takes up four time the area

Power cost  $260 per MWH after taxpayer subsidies  versus $100 for
conventional power.

Dozens of dead birds already in just a few months of testing before full
operation starts including falcons, grebes and hawks.

What's not to like about it.


The $2.2 Billion Bird-Scorching Solar Project
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304703804579379230641329
484?

On 14 Feb 2014 at 10:09, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> The worlds largest solar plant just opened and it can supply upper of 
> 140,000 homes with their power needs.
> 
> http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25134528/huge-ivanpah-solar-pow
> er-plant-opens-industry-booms
> 
> Undoubtedly, this is just the start.
> 
> Jim
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Feb 14 17:29:34 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:29:34 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] The worlds largest
In-Reply-To: <52FE95F3.14721.3C21D7D3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <52FE00FD.12271.39DBF640@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<1600946215.10249686.1392397756409.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<52FE95F3.14721.3C21D7D3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <56DFCBD0FCFB4E02915E36E072A51C24@HAL9007>

You know what would be cheaper?  Leaded gasoline. 
You know what would be cheaper?  Getting rid of those stupid scrubbers on
the smokestacks.
You know what would be cheaper?  Not paying for catalytic converters on
cars.
You know what would be cheaper?  Strip mining.
You know what would be cheaper?  Burning soft coal. 
You know what would be cheaper?  Clear cutting the forests.
You know what would be cheaper?  Dumping waste directly into the rivers.  
You know what would be cheaper?  Leeches.  Those antibiotics can be awfully
expensive.

Since cheaper is the sine qua non by which you judge technology, all those
health, safety, and environmental considerations can be logically ignored.
The important thing is that energy come to us at the lowest possible short
term cost.  And the rest of those cans can be kicked conveniently down the
road for someone else to deal with later.

Of course for me, having lived in both polluted and clean environments, and
I can't tell you how happy I am that my society has accepted the increased
costs of clean as making a better way of life for us.  I used to be
regularly warned by my morning DJ to restrict my outdoor activities.  That
hasn't happened for 20 years or more.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 2:17 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The worlds largest

Yep   

Four times the cost of a conventional power station but produces less power,
depite large tax credits.

Takes up four time the area

Power cost  $260 per MWH after taxpayer subsidies  versus $100 for
conventional power.

Dozens of dead birds already in just a few months of testing before full
operation starts including falcons, grebes and hawks.

What's not to like about it.


The $2.2 Billion Bird-Scorching Solar Project
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304703804579379230641329
484?

On 14 Feb 2014 at 10:09, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> The worlds largest solar plant just opened and it can supply upper of 
> 140,000 homes with their power needs.
> 
> http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25134528/huge-ivanpah-solar-pow
> er-plant-opens-industry-booms
> 
> Undoubtedly, this is just the start.
> 
> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb 15 02:07:06 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:07:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The
 Economics Of Open Source"
In-Reply-To: <1392393153.835713691@f99.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1848243328.10915561.1392451626219.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

That is true but OSS and the profits directly and indirectly created through this extended community far exceeds proprietary software companies. The amount of wealth generated by the OSS community is much more difficult to quantify as its software is buried in virtually all companies and is supported and created by thousands Startups. Some economist said that the value generated is in the trillions and if this environment ever disappeared there would be no computer industry.

I agree with you, that making proprietary software on top of OSS...that is exactly what is being done today and most of the major players directly and indirectly contribute, huge sums and programmers through various Linux foundation projects.

The following article may provide a bit of insight into who is paying the bills for just the writing and rewriting of the Linux core, which in reality, is a small part of the over-all OSS world.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/whos-writing-linux

Jim    

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:52:33 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"

 Hi Jim --

But the article is about profits from OSS and "closed source", OSS development companies (as RedHat LInux) profits vs. "closed source" companies as MS, *Apple*, *Google* - the latter two do use OSS but the main profits they get are based on closed/proprietary business - hardware for Apple, advertisements - for Google...

...so the author proposes to use the same strategies as Apple and Google: to use OSS as base for custom proprietary solutions.

-- Shamil

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb 15 04:17:59 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:17:59 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_=22Why_There_Will_Never_Be_Another_Re?=
 =?utf-8?q?dHat=3A_The_Economics_Of_Open_Source=22?=
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	<1848243328.10915561.1392451626219.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1392459479.902933690@f332.i.mail.ru>

 HI Jim --

Thank you for the link of the article making clear who is paying Linux core development bills. It's "Pareto Principle" in action: 80% is highly paid *core* development work, and 20% is volunteer unpaid mainly decoration development work. The ratio should be nearly the same for other OSS software.

So if nowadays one is planing to start an OSS project from scratch then they have to find good funding for core development - this is what the subject article is about.

-- Shamil

Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:07 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>That is true but OSS and the profits directly and indirectly created through this extended community far exceeds proprietary software companies. The amount of wealth generated by the OSS community is much more difficult to quantify as its software is buried in virtually all companies and is supported and created by thousands Startups. Some economist said that the value generated is in the trillions and if this environment ever disappeared there would be no computer industry.
>
>I agree with you, that making proprietary software on top of OSS...that is exactly what is being done today and most of the major players directly and indirectly contribute, huge sums and programmers through various Linux foundation projects.
>
>The following article may provide a bit of insight into who is paying the bills for just the writing and rewriting of the Linux core, which in reality, is a small part of the over-all OSS world.
>
>http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/whos-writing-linux
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:52:33 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>But the article is about profits from OSS and "closed source", OSS development companies (as RedHat LInux) profits vs. "closed source" companies as MS, *Apple*, *Google* - the latter two do use OSS but the main profits they get are based on closed/proprietary business - hardware for Apple, advertisements - for Google...
>
>...so the author proposes to use the same strategies as Apple and Google: to use OSS as base for custom proprietary solutions.
>
>-- Shamil
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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Sat Feb 15 05:18:46 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:18:46 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Send SMS From Mobile Into MS Access Or SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <52FE00FD.12271.39DBF640@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CALGJE96fV=7mTciQ9FtbMmdeUJgX3DJbmt5YA5jhdz2TFiYZYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<52FDC04B.29453.38DF4286@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<CALGJE955hmNahbAjh8bms-s5zk980rfV5wWr6VLhwncMzkjNcw@mail.gmail.com>
	<52FE00FD.12271.39DBF640@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CALGJE94hNNyAtjC2L=AuwE_7UVwBprh-7_tsnC76WUBicJxkGg@mail.gmail.com>

Stuart,

Sounds pretty good will look into that thank you.

Paul


On 14 February 2014 11:41, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:

> Ok, if you want to go with SMS from the device, your best bet is to instal
> an SMS server on
> your machine.   I did a lot of work on premium rate SMS services a few
> years using this:
>
> http://www.activexperts.com/mmserver/
>
> but it is over kill in your situation.  A quick google turned up this one:
>
> http://www.diafaan.com/  which looks as though it will do everything your
> want and much
> more.  (Primarily, automatically log your incoming SMSs into SQL
> Server/Access/MySQL etc
> database)
>
> $195 for the Light version plus a GSM modem and SIM card and you are in
> business.  (and
> you get a 30 day freee trial)
>
> GSM modems for $30-40 : http://www.ebay.com/bhp/usb-gsm-modem
>
> SIM card from your choice of carrier in your location: $????
>
>
> --
> Stuart
>
> On 14 Feb 2014 at 8:00, Paul Hartland wrote:
>
> > Stuart,
> >
> > I have looked at no 3 but don't want to mess with web servers at
> > present as I just have a single PC that I use at home at present and
> > not too clever on the security aspects etc as I know very little about
> > networks, for a little test last year I installed apache on my machine
> > and wrote a simple web page that people could see, but a network
> > friend of mine said if I hadn't got an external firewall box then I am
> > open to security risks.  Anyway the reason I am looking at SMS to
> > email or directly into database is because email will require a
> > connection to wi-fi or mobile data where an SMS just requires a phone
> > signal, but I have thought about a mobile app which will accept the
> > code and message then when the user presses send, turns the mobile
> > data on, sends the email and turns the mobile data off, but again this
> > could result in cost to the phone user where I imagine the majority of
> > people have unlimited texts nowadays plus you mention basic4android
> > when I could not guarantee the phone would be android and could be
> > blackberry, IOS, Windows phone or android, unless of course an
> > application developed on basic4android would work on all those.  Which
> > brings me back to SMS which will convert into an email or some gateway
> > where my application at the client site would scan every x seconds for
> > new email and strip the contents out to a database, I did use a third
> > party tool called SMS2Email at my last place of work for sending out
> > SMS via email, but was hoping to avoid a third party for turning an
> > SMS into an email.
> >
> > I am just stuck on the getting the data from any mobile device to the
> > client site as the software for the client side I can develop in a
> > couple of hours max.
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Feb 15 07:50:46 2014
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:50:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
In-Reply-To: <B12CB006EFE34606A6B4AFE28E7C36A9@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>	<52FE4240.4010700@torchlake.com>
	<B12CB006EFE34606A6B4AFE28E7C36A9@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <52FF70B6.2000906@torchlake.com>

That makes sense.  Thanks.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/14/2014 3:59 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:58 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>
> Noah could tell you because he's been interning at General Atomics for a
> year now doing research on how to keep the plasma cloud stable.  Here's the
> abstract of the research he presented at the American Physical Society
> conference in Denver last November:
>
> http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/DPP13/Session/JP8.82
>
> The plasma is contained in a very powerful magnetic field.
>
> R
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
> Fields
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:20 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>
> Definitely interesting.  I hope to see more breakthroughs in the future.
> The thing that puzzles me is the question of containment.  How to contain
> something that operates at temperatures and pressures equivalent to those
> found in the core of the sun?  Fascinating stuff - thanks for sharing.
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 2/13/2014 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>> A very interesting read can be found at this link:
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-a
>> s-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/
>>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Feb 15 09:04:55 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 07:04:55 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
In-Reply-To: <52FF70B6.2000906@torchlake.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>	<52FE4240.4010700@torchlake.com><B12CB006EFE34606A6B4AFE28E7C36A9@HAL9007>
	<52FF70B6.2000906@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <8C389B5D2BAD4E0792972286CF1B5F28@HAL9007>

However, the mag field containment scheme is for Tokamak type reactors
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak) which use MCF - magnetic confinement
fusion - is where most of the action is (that's what they have where Noah
works).  

This article is about a different approach - ICF - inertial confinement
fusion - which has some serious drawbacks - namely how do you engineer one
of these little 'explosions' withdraw the energy, and prepare for the next
explosion - thousands of times per second.

Noah's comment on the article: "ICF is widely considered to be a complete
dead end - it's unfortunate that it's gaining as much traction and news as
it is."

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:51 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer

That makes sense.  Thanks.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/14/2014 3:59 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:58 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>
> Noah could tell you because he's been interning at General Atomics for 
> a year now doing research on how to keep the plasma cloud stable.  
> Here's the abstract of the research he presented at the American 
> Physical Society conference in Denver last November:
>
> http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/DPP13/Session/JP8.82
>
> The plasma is contained in a very powerful magnetic field.
>
> R
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina 
> Norris Fields
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:20 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>
> Definitely interesting.  I hope to see more breakthroughs in the future.
> The thing that puzzles me is the question of containment.  How to 
> contain something that operates at temperatures and pressures 
> equivalent to those found in the core of the sun?  Fascinating stuff -
thanks for sharing.
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 2/13/2014 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>> A very interesting read can be found at this link:
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-
>> a s-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/
>>
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Feb 15 09:17:38 2014
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:17:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
In-Reply-To: <8C389B5D2BAD4E0792972286CF1B5F28@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1gVdK+wW8aeJfaW5DYOQBhYrcvFNHT1N7WNn2sd5cOvQg@mail.gmail.com>	<52FE4240.4010700@torchlake.com><B12CB006EFE34606A6B4AFE28E7C36A9@HAL9007>	<52FF70B6.2000906@torchlake.com>
	<8C389B5D2BAD4E0792972286CF1B5F28@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <52FF8512.50007@torchlake.com>

Aha!  It will be extremely interesting to follow this as the discoveries 
and breakthroughs keep coming.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/15/2014 10:04 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> However, the mag field containment scheme is for Tokamak type reactors
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak) which use MCF - magnetic confinement
> fusion - is where most of the action is (that's what they have where Noah
> works).
>
> This article is about a different approach - ICF - inertial confinement
> fusion - which has some serious drawbacks - namely how do you engineer one
> of these little 'explosions' withdraw the energy, and prepare for the next
> explosion - thousands of times per second.
>
> Noah's comment on the article: "ICF is widely considered to be a complete
> dead end - it's unfortunate that it's gaining as much traction and news as
> it is."
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
> Fields
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:51 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>
> That makes sense.  Thanks.
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 2/14/2014 3:59 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>>    
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
>> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:58 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>>
>> Noah could tell you because he's been interning at General Atomics for
>> a year now doing research on how to keep the plasma cloud stable.
>> Here's the abstract of the research he presented at the American
>> Physical Society conference in Denver last November:
>>
>> http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/DPP13/Session/JP8.82
>>
>> The plasma is contained in a very powerful magnetic field.
>>
>> R
>>
>>    
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina
>> Norris Fields
>> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:20 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>>
>> Definitely interesting.  I hope to see more breakthroughs in the future.
>> The thing that puzzles me is the question of containment.  How to
>> contain something that operates at temperatures and pressures
>> equivalent to those found in the core of the sun?  Fascinating stuff -
> thanks for sharing.
>> TNF
>>
>> Tina Norris Fields
>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
>> 231-322-2787
>>
>> On 2/13/2014 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>>> A very interesting read can be found at this link:
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-
>>> a s-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Feb 16 15:42:07 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:42:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The
 Economics Of Open Source"
In-Reply-To: <1392459479.902933690@f332.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1144958038.11856877.1392586927590.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil:

Upon closer viewing of the initial link, I realized that I assumed the wrong summary...sorry. 

...But I did include enough information in the response (rant(?)) to validate the original article's assumptions.

There seems to be a lot of funding for various small projects in the form of "crowd funding". This type of funding lends itself to smaller type companies where all the members are contributors and beneficiaries. In these businesses even one or two collaborators have produced incredible applications and have ended up being well compensated.

There are a host of Crowdfunded and Crowdfunding organizations. I sort of wish that within my formative application building prime, these type of systems were available. Below is some more info, from one of the best examples of a crowdfunded product:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdfunding

Jim     

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 2:17:59 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"

 HI Jim --

Thank you for the link of the article making clear who is paying Linux core development bills. It's "Pareto Principle" in action: 80% is highly paid *core* development work, and 20% is volunteer unpaid mainly decoration development work. The ratio should be nearly the same for other OSS software.

So if nowadays one is planing to start an OSS project from scratch then they have to find good funding for core development - this is what the subject article is about.

-- Shamil

Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:07 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>That is true but OSS and the profits directly and indirectly created through this extended community far exceeds proprietary software companies. The amount of wealth generated by the OSS community is much more difficult to quantify as its software is buried in virtually all companies and is supported and created by thousands Startups. Some economist said that the value generated is in the trillions and if this environment ever disappeared there would be no computer industry.
>
>I agree with you, that making proprietary software on top of OSS...that is exactly what is being done today and most of the major players directly and indirectly contribute, huge sums and programmers through various Linux foundation projects.
>
>The following article may provide a bit of insight into who is paying the bills for just the writing and rewriting of the Linux core, which in reality, is a small part of the over-all OSS world.
>
>http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/whos-writing-linux
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:52:33 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FYI: "Why There Will Never Be Another RedHat: The Economics Of Open Source"
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>But the article is about profits from OSS and "closed source", OSS development companies (as RedHat LInux) profits vs. "closed source" companies as MS, *Apple*, *Google* - the latter two do use OSS but the main profits they get are based on closed/proprietary business - hardware for Apple, advertisements - for Google...
>
>...so the author proposes to use the same strategies as Apple and Google: to use OSS as base for custom proprietary solutions.
>
>-- Shamil
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Feb 16 21:13:44 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 20:13:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] If I was the leader of Microsoft
In-Reply-To: <1144958038.11856877.1392586927590.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <204275155.12008448.1392606824960.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

If I could run Microsoft as a dictator what would I do to save it. I am sure many will say, who cares but the truth is that a market with many competitors is the best market.

MS is blaming every other company for their disappearing effectiveness in the PC market but it is not Google or is it Apple. Their main competitor is themselves. Their old operating systems are over 80 percent of the market, a market which just costs money to support but if they bail on this segment, Microsoft will become known as just a virus filled landscape. How can Microsoft support that languishing huge group on just ten percent of the new PCs, through sales of Windows8.x? Microsoft is truly caught.

My idea would be embed the old operating systems into Windows 8.x (just like XP has NTVDM built in so to support old DOS applications) and have a simple process to port an old operating systems into the new Windows. Expensive or difficult?...not really after all the old versions of Windows are already built and paid for. Once a person has migrated their old system they could slowly divest themselves of the old and start taking advantage of the new. Within a few years reliance on the old environments would fade and there would be a whole new population of users on the new Windows...and that would be good for everybody.

Why not give users a free operating system and provide free upgrades as long as they own the initial computer. After all the main profits of Microsoft are from the Offices products. The longer a user stays with an OS the more products they are likely to buy.

If Microsoft wants to still remain a major player in the PC world they attitudes has to change.

Jim         

From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Mon Feb 17 08:08:45 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:08:45 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
Message-ID: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>

To all,

Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web server
on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello World' and
asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my amazement yes they
could, then to my disappointment another friend said people would find it
easy to hack into my machine and I would need a firewall (think he said
hardware one) in between my broadband box and my PC.  Is this correct and
if so does anyone have any suggestions as I have lost contact with that
friend after he moved to Australia.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 08:25:03 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:25:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hT0zu=Has8sNJgddyJJiAVu_YhwWqGhfqj+SYFntZzGw@mail.gmail.com>

You might try ZoneAlarm's free firewall software, which can be downloaded
from:

http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/zonealarm-pc-security-free-firewall.htm

Arthur


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Paul Hartland <paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> To all,
>
> Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web server
> on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello World' and
> asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my amazement yes they
> could, then to my disappointment another friend said people would find it
> easy to hack into my machine and I would need a firewall (think he said
> hardware one) in between my broadband box and my PC.  Is this correct and
> if so does anyone have any suggestions as I have lost contact with that
> friend after he moved to Australia.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Arthur

From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Mon Feb 17 08:34:17 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:34:17 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hT0zu=Has8sNJgddyJJiAVu_YhwWqGhfqj+SYFntZzGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hT0zu=Has8sNJgddyJJiAVu_YhwWqGhfqj+SYFntZzGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALGJE94G5D9Lu=Hrw4XoztSOKS60afacuJyNu2sWTZL65ZfRQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Arthur, told my friend that I already had ZoneAlarm but he still
insisted that I needed a hardware firewall between my internet connection
and the PC with the webserver on.  Think I might re-install Apache in a day
or two then.

Paul


On 17 February 2014 14:25, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> You might try ZoneAlarm's free firewall software, which can be downloaded
> from:
>
>
> http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/zonealarm-pc-security-free-firewall.htm
>
> Arthur
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Paul Hartland <
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > To all,
> >
> > Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web
> server
> > on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello World' and
> > asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my amazement yes
> they
> > could, then to my disappointment another friend said people would find it
> > easy to hack into my machine and I would need a firewall (think he said
> > hardware one) in between my broadband box and my PC.  Is this correct and
> > if so does anyone have any suggestions as I have lost contact with that
> > friend after he moved to Australia.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Hartland
> > paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 08:39:09 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:39:09 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE94G5D9Lu=Hrw4XoztSOKS60afacuJyNu2sWTZL65ZfRQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1hT0zu=Has8sNJgddyJJiAVu_YhwWqGhfqj+SYFntZzGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALGJE94G5D9Lu=Hrw4XoztSOKS60afacuJyNu2sWTZL65ZfRQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hbpzLh0CYO_z27bGAsAXO_Kd-1ieROcW0X+-j_7oTbNw@mail.gmail.com>

Presumably you have a router between your PC and the Net. In that case, you
already have a firewall but have yet to configure it. Dig out the Quick
Start or alternatively Google the brand name and it should get you to the
on-line docs.

Arthur


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Paul Hartland <paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Thanks Arthur, told my friend that I already had ZoneAlarm but he still
> insisted that I needed a hardware firewall between my internet connection
> and the PC with the webserver on.  Think I might re-install Apache in a day
> or two then.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 17 February 2014 14:25, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You might try ZoneAlarm's free firewall software, which can be downloaded
> > from:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/zonealarm-pc-security-free-firewall.htm
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Paul Hartland <
> > paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > To all,
> > >
> > > Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web
> > server
> > > on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello World' and
> > > asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my amazement yes
> > they
> > > could, then to my disappointment another friend said people would find
> it
> > > easy to hack into my machine and I would need a firewall (think he said
> > > hardware one) in between my broadband box and my PC.  Is this correct
> and
> > > if so does anyone have any suggestions as I have lost contact with that
> > > friend after he moved to Australia.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any help on this.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Hartland
> > > paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 17 09:41:06 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:41:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1494925035.12280117.1392651666827.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Paul:

You do have a router?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland" <paul.hartland at googlemail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:08:45 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server

To all,

Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web server
on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello World' and
asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my amazement yes they
could, then to my disappointment another friend said people would find it
easy to hack into my machine and I would need a firewall (think he said
hardware one) in between my broadband box and my PC.  Is this correct and
if so does anyone have any suggestions as I have lost contact with that
friend after he moved to Australia.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 17 09:42:16 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:42:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE94G5D9Lu=Hrw4XoztSOKS60afacuJyNu2sWTZL65ZfRQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17551478.12281116.1392651736435.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Paul:

Before you use any software...if you don't have one get a router.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland" <paul.hartland at googlemail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:34:17 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server

Thanks Arthur, told my friend that I already had ZoneAlarm but he still
insisted that I needed a hardware firewall between my internet connection
and the PC with the webserver on.  Think I might re-install Apache in a day
or two then.

Paul


On 17 February 2014 14:25, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> You might try ZoneAlarm's free firewall software, which can be downloaded
> from:
>
>
> http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/zonealarm-pc-security-free-firewall.htm
>
> Arthur
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Paul Hartland <
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > To all,
> >
> > Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web
> server
> > on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello World' and
> > asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my amazement yes
> they
> > could, then to my disappointment another friend said people would find it
> > easy to hack into my machine and I would need a firewall (think he said
> > hardware one) in between my broadband box and my PC.  Is this correct and
> > if so does anyone have any suggestions as I have lost contact with that
> > friend after he moved to Australia.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Hartland
> > paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Mon Feb 17 09:45:58 2014
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:45:58 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
In-Reply-To: <1494925035.12280117.1392651666827.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1494925035.12280117.1392651666827.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CALGJE94Emj3qUkBiYi86U5HT3uZJYxkPL6fexUW9n9hU8UxpcA@mail.gmail.com>

Jim/Arthur,

This is where I show how much I do NOT know, I am in the UK with a company
called Virgin, using a cabled broadband modem, basically cable from wall
socket into modem into PC.  I am assuming that I do not have a router,
unless their is something built into the broadband modem (hides face in
shame)...

Paul




On 17 February 2014 15:41, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Paul:
>
> You do have a router?
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland" <paul.hartland at googlemail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:08:45 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
>
> To all,
>
> Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web server
> on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello World' and
> asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my amazement yes they
> could, then to my disappointment another friend said people would find it
> easy to hack into my machine and I would need a firewall (think he said
> hardware one) in between my broadband box and my PC.  Is this correct and
> if so does anyone have any suggestions as I have lost contact with that
> friend after he moved to Australia.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Feb 17 11:22:42 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 03:22:42 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE973kSkOczkMinF3mCEfxN8jdjoQpS3+rCY43mK_zoN4pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53024562.10170.4A87019D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

As a general rule, you should never connect a WIndows workstation directly tp  the internet.

What you do depends on what your "broadband box" is (what sort of internet connection you 
have).  

If it's a modem of some sort, you should spend a hundred bucks or so and buy a 
WAP/router, Then connect your PC  through that.  Current SOHO WAP/routers have easy to 
manage browser interfaces which let you configure a firewall, port forwardin g, wireless 
access etc.

If it's an ADSL router or similar, it should already have the above capabilities built in.

-- 
Stuart

On 17 Feb 2014 at 14:08, Paul Hartland wrote:

> To all,
> 
> Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web
> server on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello
> World' and asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my
> amazement yes they could, then to my disappointment another friend
> said people would find it easy to hack into my machine and I would
> need a firewall (think he said hardware one) in between my broadband
> box and my PC.  Is this correct and if so does anyone have any
> suggestions as I have lost contact with that friend after he moved to
> Australia.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
> 
> -- 
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 17 11:35:38 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:35:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio
In-Reply-To: <1848243328.10915561.1392451626219.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <906723603.12393028.1392658538259.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

I am looking for a package from which to do all my programming and have seriously looked at Visual Studio and Adobe. 

As an over-view, do I need Visual Studio so I will be able to work with multiple languages and be able to use their features of exposing options and auto-completion. Well that is pretty easy to get as there are a number of basic editors that provide those capabilities and they do not cost anything. Below is a link to an image of one possible solution from a basic programming editor called textmate:

http://www.infoworld.com/sites/infoworld.com/files/media/image/textmate_lg.jpg

I then have to ask is there enough languages(?) but a real programming solution is needed with all the compiling, great code editing, navigation, syntax highlighting, code folding, great debugging on multiple browsers (JavaScript functions) and even source control with SVN/Github support.

When I looked at Visual Studio three points became apparent.

1. It does not have a great range in languages or databases.
2. It only runs on one platform.
3. The full-meal-deal; enterprise version can cost as much as $13,299  with a $4,249 annual renewal fee.

That is three-strikes as far as I am concerned. Overpriced with limited features and capabilities.       
  
As I have discovered and researched there are other better solutions. The following products run on all the major platforms, connect to all the major databases and support most of the major languages. Note: just like Visual Studio there are express versions.

First there is the Adobe studio, which runs off the web and has "personal editions" that are not crippled and can be "rented" at a reasonable price. There are so many choices of packages course.

Second there is "Sublime Text". For the enterprise version it is not free but $70.00 seems a reasonable charge.  

http://www.sublimetext.com

...And third there is WebStorm. Again the enterprise version is not free but $99.00, I can handle that.

http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm

It will be difficult to decide which of these two products would be the best and if anyone knows of any other great solution I would love to hear about them.

Jim   

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 17 11:49:12 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:49:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE94Emj3qUkBiYi86U5HT3uZJYxkPL6fexUW9n9hU8UxpcA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1963245040.12405962.1392659352259.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Paul:

Maybe your company could invest in a router. The beauty of a router is that you can shut all ports except the particular ones you need. If you are just doing mail the only port you leave open is port 80 and then you are one hundred percent protected as long as you don't run some mail received malware....no need for all those other firewalls...as they are only needed to protect others from your malware and your windows products are generally good enough. 

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland" <paul.hartland at googlemail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:45:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server

Jim/Arthur,

This is where I show how much I do NOT know, I am in the UK with a company
called Virgin, using a cabled broadband modem, basically cable from wall
socket into modem into PC.  I am assuming that I do not have a router,
unless their is something built into the broadband modem (hides face in
shame)...

Paul




On 17 February 2014 15:41, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Paul:
>
> You do have a router?
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland" <paul.hartland at googlemail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:08:45 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Apache Web Server
>
> To all,
>
> Last year (being a total novice with web stuff) I put the Apache web server
> on my PC and basically put a very simple page saying 'Hello World' and
> asked a friend to see if they could see the page, to my amazement yes they
> could, then to my disappointment another friend said people would find it
> easy to hack into my machine and I would need a firewall (think he said
> hardware one) in between my broadband box and my PC.  Is this correct and
> if so does anyone have any suggestions as I have lost contact with that
> friend after he moved to Australia.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 17 11:59:05 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:59:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The future
In-Reply-To: <906723603.12393028.1392658538259.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1013911055.12414965.1392659945020.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Someone sent this link to me and I decided to re-post as it made me laugh.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/surgery.png

Jim

From df.waters at comcast.net  Mon Feb 17 12:03:26 2014
From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:03:26 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio
In-Reply-To: <906723603.12393028.1392658538259.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1848243328.10915561.1392451626219.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<906723603.12393028.1392658538259.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <000001cf2c0a$8e7ee650$ab7cb2f0$@comcast.net>

Hi Jim,

Ignore Visual Studio Ultimate and Premium.  These are for software shops
which could actually benefit from the few 'luxury' features these editions
have.  For practical use by a single professional developer, VS Professional
is just fine - about $500.  There are also numerous extensions that are free
or low cost which are quite beneficial.

Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:36 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi All:

I am looking for a package from which to do all my programming and have
seriously looked at Visual Studio and Adobe. 

As an over-view, do I need Visual Studio so I will be able to work with
multiple languages and be able to use their features of exposing options and
auto-completion. Well that is pretty easy to get as there are a number of
basic editors that provide those capabilities and they do not cost anything.
Below is a link to an image of one possible solution from a basic
programming editor called textmate:

http://www.infoworld.com/sites/infoworld.com/files/media/image/textmate_lg.j
pg

I then have to ask is there enough languages(?) but a real programming
solution is needed with all the compiling, great code editing, navigation,
syntax highlighting, code folding, great debugging on multiple browsers
(JavaScript functions) and even source control with SVN/Github support.

When I looked at Visual Studio three points became apparent.

1. It does not have a great range in languages or databases.
2. It only runs on one platform.
3. The full-meal-deal; enterprise version can cost as much as $13,299  with
a $4,249 annual renewal fee.

That is three-strikes as far as I am concerned. Overpriced with limited
features and capabilities.       
  
As I have discovered and researched there are other better solutions. The
following products run on all the major platforms, connect to all the major
databases and support most of the major languages. Note: just like Visual
Studio there are express versions.

First there is the Adobe studio, which runs off the web and has "personal
editions" that are not crippled and can be "rented" at a reasonable price.
There are so many choices of packages course.

Second there is "Sublime Text". For the enterprise version it is not free
but $70.00 seems a reasonable charge.  

http://www.sublimetext.com

...And third there is WebStorm. Again the enterprise version is not free but
$99.00, I can handle that.

http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm

It will be difficult to decide which of these two products would be the best
and if anyone knows of any other great solution I would love to hear about
them.

Jim   
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 17 12:49:21 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:49:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio
In-Reply-To: <000001cf2c0a$8e7ee650$ab7cb2f0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <766454710.12473650.1392662961690.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Dans:

Thanks for the information,

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:03:26 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi Jim,

Ignore Visual Studio Ultimate and Premium.  These are for software shops
which could actually benefit from the few 'luxury' features these editions
have.  For practical use by a single professional developer, VS Professional
is just fine - about $500.  There are also numerous extensions that are free
or low cost which are quite beneficial.

Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:36 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi All:

I am looking for a package from which to do all my programming and have
seriously looked at Visual Studio and Adobe. 

As an over-view, do I need Visual Studio so I will be able to work with
multiple languages and be able to use their features of exposing options and
auto-completion. Well that is pretty easy to get as there are a number of
basic editors that provide those capabilities and they do not cost anything.
Below is a link to an image of one possible solution from a basic
programming editor called textmate:

http://www.infoworld.com/sites/infoworld.com/files/media/image/textmate_lg.j
pg

I then have to ask is there enough languages(?) but a real programming
solution is needed with all the compiling, great code editing, navigation,
syntax highlighting, code folding, great debugging on multiple browsers
(JavaScript functions) and even source control with SVN/Github support.

When I looked at Visual Studio three points became apparent.

1. It does not have a great range in languages or databases.
2. It only runs on one platform.
3. The full-meal-deal; enterprise version can cost as much as $13,299  with
a $4,249 annual renewal fee.

That is three-strikes as far as I am concerned. Overpriced with limited
features and capabilities.       
  
As I have discovered and researched there are other better solutions. The
following products run on all the major platforms, connect to all the major
databases and support most of the major languages. Note: just like Visual
Studio there are express versions.

First there is the Adobe studio, which runs off the web and has "personal
editions" that are not crippled and can be "rented" at a reasonable price.
There are so many choices of packages course.

Second there is "Sublime Text". For the enterprise version it is not free
but $70.00 seems a reasonable charge.  

http://www.sublimetext.com

...And third there is WebStorm. Again the enterprise version is not free but
$99.00, I can handle that.

http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm

It will be difficult to decide which of these two products would be the best
and if anyone knows of any other great solution I would love to hear about
them.

Jim   
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Feb 17 13:29:31 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:29:31 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio
In-Reply-To: <906723603.12393028.1392658538259.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1848243328.10915561.1392451626219.JavaMail.root@cds002>,
	<906723603.12393028.1392658538259.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <dada09708cc046a6a04c3b54755c90e0@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

I love you state "limited features and capabilities" even for the ultimate version.

Why not start with the Express version and let's talk about the limitations you find. That said, I use the Pro version which comes with the Action Pack Subscription. I don't think I ever outgrow that. The other versions are for large and enterprise teams.

My previous son-in-law, a PHP-Perl-C#-younameit programmer himself, at the time of VS2005 adviced me that route. But he warned me: If you decide so, you will never look back. 
He was right, although I still do a lot of Access programming. But it seems so much old school, and I miss my VS. VS is built for programmers by programmers and for programming, nothing super-user here, and you feel it. Every feature you discover (and _that_ is an ongoing process) is made to easen the work of the programmer.

I cannot speak about the alternatives you mention. I neither look back nor elsewhere.

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 17. februar 2014 18:35
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi All:

I am looking for a package from which to do all my programming and have seriously looked at Visual Studio and Adobe.

As an over-view, do I need Visual Studio so I will be able to work with multiple languages and be able to use their features of exposing options and auto-completion. Well that is pretty easy to get as there are a number of basic editors that provide those capabilities and they do not cost anything. Below is a link to an image of one possible solution from a basic programming editor called textmate:

http://www.infoworld.com/sites/infoworld.com/files/media/image/textmate_lg.jpg

I then have to ask is there enough languages(?) but a real programming solution is needed with all the compiling, great code editing, navigation, syntax highlighting, code folding, great debugging on multiple browsers (JavaScript functions) and even source control with SVN/Github support.

When I looked at Visual Studio three points became apparent.

1. It does not have a great range in languages or databases.
2. It only runs on one platform.
3. The full-meal-deal; enterprise version can cost as much as $13,299  with a $4,249 annual renewal fee.

That is three-strikes as far as I am concerned. Overpriced with limited features and capabilities.

As I have discovered and researched there are other better solutions. The following products run on all the major platforms, connect to all the major databases and support most of the major languages. Note: just like Visual Studio there are express versions.

First there is the Adobe studio, which runs off the web and has "personal editions" that are not crippled and can be "rented" at a reasonable price. There are so many choices of packages course.

Second there is "Sublime Text". For the enterprise version it is not free but $70.00 seems a reasonable charge.

http://www.sublimetext.com

...And third there is WebStorm. Again the enterprise version is not free but $99.00, I can handle that.

http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm

It will be difficult to decide which of these two products would be the best and if anyone knows of any other great solution I would love to hear about them.

Jim


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 18 04:43:36 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:43:36 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio
In-Reply-To: <dada09708cc046a6a04c3b54755c90e0@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1848243328.10915561.1392451626219.JavaMail.root@cds002>,
	<906723603.12393028.1392658538259.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<dada09708cc046a6a04c3b54755c90e0@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <69148369cbd240efaefb888cd9cd6274@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

There seems to be no limit for the Lego bricks. Here, Lego Mindstorms and a cellphone is used to build a robot to solve Rubik's Cube. 
A masterpiece in engineering. This is something you have to see to believe:

http://ing.dk/video/se-mindstorms-robot-loese-rubiks-terning-paa-3426-sekunder-166375

/gustav


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Feb 18 10:08:11 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 08:08:11 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio
In-Reply-To: <69148369cbd240efaefb888cd9cd6274@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1848243328.10915561.1392451626219.JavaMail.root@cds002>,
	<906723603.12393028.1392658538259.JavaMail.root@cds002><dada09708cc046a6a04c3b54755c90e0@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<69148369cbd240efaefb888cd9cd6274@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <6E15C5BCD88345BE8799638B1D9D6FF5@HAL9007>

I forwarded to Noah's robotics team.  Think they'll get a kick out of it.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:44 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi all

There seems to be no limit for the Lego bricks. Here, Lego Mindstorms and a
cellphone is used to build a robot to solve Rubik's Cube. 
A masterpiece in engineering. This is something you have to see to believe:

http://ing.dk/video/se-mindstorms-robot-loese-rubiks-terning-paa-3426-sekund
er-166375

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 18 10:55:57 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:55:57 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio
In-Reply-To: <69148369cbd240efaefb888cd9cd6274@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <595043198.13317440.1392742557230.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

Love it...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:43:36 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi all

There seems to be no limit for the Lego bricks. Here, Lego Mindstorms and a cellphone is used to build a robot to solve Rubik's Cube. 
A masterpiece in engineering. This is something you have to see to believe:

http://ing.dk/video/se-mindstorms-robot-loese-rubiks-terning-paa-3426-sekunder-166375

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 18 12:29:00 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:29:00 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio
In-Reply-To: <dada09708cc046a6a04c3b54755c90e0@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <604887274.13440817.1392748140705.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

Being retired I now have the luxury of looking at the industry as a whole and can play with what ever product catches my immediate interest.  

Before, what ever the customer wanted is what they got. Whether it was some C programming, development work in legacy databases, re-programming a switches, Oracle, MS SQL, web development and even MS Access...a lot of Access. Microsoft products have been very good to me but the market here is changing.

If I was going into the computer business today there would be a whole different set of options to select from than even five years ago. 

Aside: To be honest the market is no longer Microsoft...at least here. A generalist developer is roughly paid double to that of a pure Microsoft programmer or support person...it is all supply and demand and rightly or wrongly, the perception persists. Considering we live within a stone's throw of Redmond, Microsoft has not been doing as good of job, of convincing the locals in retaining their loyalty. IMHO, I personally think Microsoft just doesn't care any more. A few years ago, Microsoft would hold conventions, be very active in the local universities and colleges, approach schools and give preferred pricing, class room training, in their new and old applications, make a strong effort to high-light businesses that were doing leading edge work on MS platforms and so on. I am sure the costs of doing this type of sales work was more expensive, than only pushing out information through the web but it sure developed loyalty and encouraged product adoption. Today, with the budget limitation placed on educational facilities, they are either not advancing to the latest versions of MS OS and/or are migrating to OSS alternatives and in addition local OSS product companies are very active promoting their support options. This means that all the schools are only pushing out non-Microsoft developers.   

With those thoughts in mind, if I was going into business I would learn applications that are not a single OS centric, that would be web based (and that does not mean only run from the internet as development could be within a single network or made to run on just a single computer). So when I stated "limited features and capabilities", I was referring to what environment and what supported programming products the editor is capable of developing in.

In summary, I am very pleased you have found your market niche in a pure Microsoft environment and until about ten years ago that was me as well (...worked for a Microsoft platinum rated company for almost ten years). That is not to say that I think Microsoft products are not excellent but it now appears to be a much bigger world out there, with many equally excellent alternatives.

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:29:31 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio

Hi Jim

I love you state "limited features and capabilities" even for the ultimate version.

Why not start with the Express version and let's talk about the limitations you find. That said, I use the Pro version which comes with the Action Pack Subscription. I don't think I ever outgrow that. The other versions are for large and enterprise teams.

My previous son-in-law, a PHP-Perl-C#-younameit programmer himself, at the time of VS2005 adviced me that route. But he warned me: If you decide so, you will never look back. 
He was right, although I still do a lot of Access programming. But it seems so much old school, and I miss my VS. VS is built for programmers by programmers and for programming, nothing super-user here, and you feel it. Every feature you discover (and _that_ is an ongoing process) is made to easen the work of the programmer.

I cannot speak about the alternatives you mention. I neither look back nor elsewhere.

/gustav


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 18 12:39:16 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:39:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
In-Reply-To: <8C389B5D2BAD4E0792972286CF1B5F28@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <1904701261.13452783.1392748756997.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Rocky:

Thanks for the info and link. Today I have learned something.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:04:55 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer

However, the mag field containment scheme is for Tokamak type reactors
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak) which use MCF - magnetic confinement
fusion - is where most of the action is (that's what they have where Noah
works).  

This article is about a different approach - ICF - inertial confinement
fusion - which has some serious drawbacks - namely how do you engineer one
of these little 'explosions' withdraw the energy, and prepare for the next
explosion - thousands of times per second.

Noah's comment on the article: "ICF is widely considered to be a complete
dead end - it's unfortunate that it's gaining as much traction and news as
it is."

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:51 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer

That makes sense.  Thanks.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/14/2014 3:59 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:58 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>
> Noah could tell you because he's been interning at General Atomics for 
> a year now doing research on how to keep the plasma cloud stable.  
> Here's the abstract of the research he presented at the American 
> Physical Society conference in Denver last November:
>
> http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/DPP13/Session/JP8.82
>
> The plasma is contained in a very powerful magnetic field.
>
> R
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina 
> Norris Fields
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:20 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fusion: One Step Closer
>
> Definitely interesting.  I hope to see more breakthroughs in the future.
> The thing that puzzles me is the question of containment.  How to 
> contain something that operates at temperatures and pressures 
> equivalent to those found in the core of the sun?  Fascinating stuff -
thanks for sharing.
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 2/13/2014 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>> A very interesting read can be found at this link:
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/giant-leap-for-nuclear-fusion-
>> a s-scientists-get-more-energy-out-than-fuel-put-in/
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 18 18:53:49 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:53:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fast HTML5
In-Reply-To: <1013911055.12414965.1392659945020.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1578397573.13839315.1392771229660.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

HTML5 and CSS3 have never been able to match the performance of native code on Smartphones (tablets) until now. A developer is claiming that his re-write of the HTML5 and CSS3 code has produced comparable speeds.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/mobile-development/famous-were-building-better-phonegap-236267

...and the web site; note the development front end framework is only in beta version now:

http://www.famo.us/c

...check out the videos.

Jim   

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 18 18:56:54 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:56:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] 3D printing
In-Reply-To: <1013911055.12414965.1392659945020.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <429943378.13841353.1392771414477.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi all:

How invasive will 3D printing be? One article suggests that it will impact at least ten industries.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/10-industries-3d-printing-will-disrupt-or-decimate/#ftag=RSS56d97e7

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 18 19:05:35 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:05:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Streaming video with a twist
In-Reply-To: <1013911055.12414965.1392659945020.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1354958031.13849498.1392771935210.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

For a long time we have either used YouTube/Vimeo, rented services from an offline company or purchased a high performance server with huge bandwidth so we could stream enough data to support video. If the next piece of technology lives up to its current billing these restriction may be a thing of the past.

BitTorrent is in Alpha development, on a product, that will use torrent tech to deliver full video from any computer without huge bandwidth.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/15/5414430/bittorrent-live-mobile-app-launching-2014

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 19 00:04:11 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:04:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new media player
In-Reply-To: <1354958031.13849498.1392771935210.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1466826517.14037703.1392789851681.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Recently, streaming video from a server to the Samsung TV, has changed. The Smart Samsung has been using some version of Linux to run its web interface and manage its setting. The FE is a pretty rough implementation to say the least and sometimes the codecs would no translate. Some versions of AVI, MKV, FLV and MP4 encoded video would fail to display for no good reason. 

Ever so often the TV asks to run another update and after the most recent update all the various codec type played without issue. Upon checking further into the code, it appears that Samsung used the code source from a new streaming package. 

Until now the only steaming packages that were semi universal were Pserver and Plex. Now there is a new package that will allow you to stream video to and from all your media devices called Serviio. (The PRO package only costs $25.00 and it runs on all platforms.)

http://www.serviio.org

Jim  

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 19 13:06:00 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:06:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Chrome V8
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1haghB8prTcJV3tgGJzSz7BCv4cOegXjXezyTwUF5Yw-A@mail.gmail.com>

Here's an interesting piece about Google's speed-up of JavaScript:

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/86/6949.html

-- 
Arthur

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 19 15:26:31 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:26:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new media player
In-Reply-To: <1466826517.14037703.1392789851681.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1466826517.14037703.1392789851681.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <53052187.3060602@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-19 12:04 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Recently, streaming video from a server to the Samsung TV, has changed. The Smart Samsung has been using some version of Linux to run its web interface and manage its setting. The FE is a pretty rough implementation to say the least and sometimes the codecs would no translate. Some versions of AVI, MKV, FLV and MP4 encoded video would fail to display for no good reason.
>
> Ever so often the TV asks to run another update and after the most recent update all the various codec type played without issue. Upon checking further into the code, it appears that Samsung used the code source from a new streaming package.
>
> Until now the only steaming packages that were semi universal were Pserver and Plex. Now there is a new package that will allow you to stream video to and from all your media devices called Serviio. (The PRO package only costs $25.00 and it runs on all platforms.)
>
> http://www.serviio.org

Looks good---a more general solution than special purpose servers like 
Logitech SqueezeBox Touch, KdLinks &c which I use.

But: if you want best sound, you want to feed the signal to your 
receiver rather than your TV. If your receiver doesn't have DLNA logic 
then you need a DLNA dongle. Again for best video & sound you want a 
wired ethernet connection rather than wifi. And there's the rub---who 
makes a DLNA dongle with ethernet in and HDMI out?

PB

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 19 23:08:23 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:08:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Chrome V8
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1haghB8prTcJV3tgGJzSz7BCv4cOegXjXezyTwUF5Yw-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1925946900.15121483.1392872903173.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

I was reading that article earlier. With so much now depending on the performance of the internet the challenge will be to get HTML5 and CSS3 running as fast as native code.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:06:00 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Chrome V8

Here's an interesting piece about Google's speed-up of JavaScript:

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/86/6949.html

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 19 23:34:40 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:34:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new media player
In-Reply-To: <53052187.3060602@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1175614817.15134447.1392874480736.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Peter:

I am not familiar with the sound qualities and standards...thanks for the info now I will look it up but in the meantime any further details would be greatly appreciated. As for our TV, it is cable for most channels but the internet is connected directly to the network's switch via a physical LAN cable connection, from the back of the set...is that good?

I ripped one blue-ray disk onto the server and I could not imagine a Wi-Fi connection handling a 4.7GB stream of data.
  
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:26:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new media player

On 2014-02-19 12:04 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Recently, streaming video from a server to the Samsung TV, has changed. The Smart Samsung has been using some version of Linux to run its web interface and manage its setting. The FE is a pretty rough implementation to say the least and sometimes the codecs would no translate. Some versions of AVI, MKV, FLV and MP4 encoded video would fail to display for no good reason.
>
> Ever so often the TV asks to run another update and after the most recent update all the various codec type played without issue. Upon checking further into the code, it appears that Samsung used the code source from a new streaming package.
>
> Until now the only steaming packages that were semi universal were Pserver and Plex. Now there is a new package that will allow you to stream video to and from all your media devices called Serviio. (The PRO package only costs $25.00 and it runs on all platforms.)
>
> http://www.serviio.org

Looks good---a more general solution than special purpose servers like 
Logitech SqueezeBox Touch, KdLinks &c which I use.

But: if you want best sound, you want to feed the signal to your 
receiver rather than your TV. If your receiver doesn't have DLNA logic 
then you need a DLNA dongle. Again for best video & sound you want a 
wired ethernet connection rather than wifi. And there's the rub---who 
makes a DLNA dongle with ethernet in and HDMI out?

PB

-----

>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 20 13:16:43 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:16:43 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new media player
In-Reply-To: <1175614817.15134447.1392874480736.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1175614817.15134447.1392874480736.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <5306549B.5050708@earthlink.net>

On 2014-02-19 11:34 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> I am not familiar with the sound qualities and standards...thanks for the info now I will look it up but in the meantime any further details would be greatly appreciated. As for our TV, it is cable for most channels but the internet is connected directly to the network's switch via a physical LAN cable connection, from the back of the set...is that good?

A receiver containing an 80+W/ch amplifier connected to decent speakers 
will sound incomparably better than all the TV monitors in the world 
laid end to end.

Most of our music is classical (for which audio quality is crucial; 
basically the requirement is an S/N ratio near 90db with 20-20kHz flat 
response and an undistorted sound stage; such requirements do little or 
nothing for for pop music with its ersatz sound stages and 
sensationalised sound), ripped to .flac audio or .mp4/.iso video files 
on a server, or heard through internet broadcasting (eg KUSC-FM, 
SiriusXM), coming in via a LogiTech SqueezeBox or KdLinks video settop 
box, both with digital input connections to the receiver. Those files 
look & sound a whole lot better coming down an ethernet wire than over 
the best possible wifi.

A single simple gizmo like the Serviio could replace the Kdlinks and 
Logtech settop boxes if it could transmit all that audio & video through 
an ethernet connection.

PB

-----


>
> I ripped one blue-ray disk onto the server and I could not imagine a Wi-Fi connection handling a 4.7GB stream of data.
>    
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:26:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new media player
>
> On 2014-02-19 12:04 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Recently, streaming video from a server to the Samsung TV, has changed. The Smart Samsung has been using some version of Linux to run its web interface and manage its setting. The FE is a pretty rough implementation to say the least and sometimes the codecs would no translate. Some versions of AVI, MKV, FLV and MP4 encoded video would fail to display for no good reason.
>>
>> Ever so often the TV asks to run another update and after the most recent update all the various codec type played without issue. Upon checking further into the code, it appears that Samsung used the code source from a new streaming package.
>>
>> Until now the only steaming packages that were semi universal were Pserver and Plex. Now there is a new package that will allow you to stream video to and from all your media devices called Serviio. (The PRO package only costs $25.00 and it runs on all platforms.)
>>
>> http://www.serviio.org
> Looks good---a more general solution than special purpose servers like
> Logitech SqueezeBox Touch, KdLinks &c which I use.
>
> But: if you want best sound, you want to feed the signal to your
> receiver rather than your TV. If your receiver doesn't have DLNA logic
> then you need a DLNA dongle. Again for best video & sound you want a
> wired ethernet connection rather than wifi. And there's the rub---who
> makes a DLNA dongle with ethernet in and HDMI out?
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 21 15:58:17 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:58:17 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The computer world is evolving
In-Reply-To: <53052187.3060602@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1294406958.16901664.1393019897060.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

For us old systems guys we do not have to concern ourselves about the changing dynamics of the computer world or if we have found a comfortable niche in which to reside but for those who are planning to work another ten or more years or are planning on getting into the business, there are certain directions that will have to be taken into consideration.

It is not only web based environments but the platforms will be mostly Linux. The following article addresses that new reality with job stats. 

<quote>
...Of hiring managers polled, 77 percent have "hiring Linux talent" on their to-do lists for the year (up from 73 percent last year), and more than 90 percent of all hiring managers plan on hiring Linux talent of some kind in the next six months...

...To top it all off, the report claims Linux pros can command top salaries and work perks (such as telecommute options and paid training). 
</quote>

http://www.infoworld.com/t/it-jobs/want-land-it-job-in-2014-it-helps-be-linux-pro-236675

My personal thoughts on this are varied but then I have technically retired and no longer in any career danger...but even I will have to step up my game if I wish to remain at all relevant.

Jim


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 21 19:06:49 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:06:49 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft OneDrive: 10 Things to Expect From the Cloud
	Storage Service
Message-ID: <010c01cf2f6a$5e4012d0$1ac03870$@winhaven.net>

A quick overview:
http://www.eweek.com/cloud/slideshows/microsoft-onedrive-10-things-to-expect
-from-the-cloud-storage-service.html?kc=EWKNLNAV02212014STR1&dni=106777607&r
ni=32889555#sthas

I think MS got this one right.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 21 19:55:38 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 18:55:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft OneDrive: 10 Things to Expect From the
 Cloud	Storage Service
In-Reply-To: <010c01cf2f6a$5e4012d0$1ac03870$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1174372655.17082712.1393034138458.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi John:

Here is some more information on the new upgraded. If you are one of the first 100K people to sign up to the new OneDrive service (Aside: OneDrive makes me think of UbuntuOne...are we in for another round of trade conflicts?) will get 100GB for a year.

http://recode.net/2014/02/19/microsoft-launches-onedrive-basically-the-same-as-skydrive-but-with-100gb-free-if-you-hurry/

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "DBA-Tech" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:06:49 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft OneDrive: 10 Things to Expect From the Cloud	Storage Service

A quick overview:
http://www.eweek.com/cloud/slideshows/microsoft-onedrive-10-things-to-expect
-from-the-cloud-storage-service.html?kc=EWKNLNAV02212014STR1&dni=106777607&r
ni=32889555#sthas

I think MS got this one right.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Feb 22 03:44:23 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:44:23 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft OneDrive: 10 Things to Expect From the
 Cloud Storage Service
In-Reply-To: <010c01cf2f6a$5e4012d0$1ac03870$@winhaven.net>
References: <010c01cf2f6a$5e4012d0$1ac03870$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <619b41ca5ceb43dc815be1a3d6383c19@AM3PR06MB305.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi John

It works very well. Whenever I take a photo with my Lumia, it will automatically be synced on and with OneDrive and then to all my connected devices. Thus, a minute later I can reach it in a desktop folder on my workstation.

Further, we signed up early when free space was 25 GB eternally. Now it is 7 GB but you can earn 3 GB by backing up your phone. 10 GB for free, not bad.

/gustav

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Sendt: 22. februar 2014 02:06
Til: DBA-Tech
Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft OneDrive: 10 Things to Expect From the Cloud Storage Service

A quick overview:
http://www.eweek.com/cloud/slideshows/microsoft-onedrive-10-things-to-expect
-from-the-cloud-storage-service.html?kc=EWKNLNAV02212014STR1&dni=106777607&r
ni=32889555#sthas

I think MS got this one right.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb 22 14:39:35 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:39:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Google's new service?
In-Reply-To: <1174372655.17082712.1393034138458.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1091198122.17584200.1393101575628.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

Google has a new service, still in alpha stage, but undoubtedly that will allow you to completely build a 3D landscape of everywhere you go. Is this good or bad?

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/20/google-project-tango-smartphone-sensors

Jim
 

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Feb 24 09:25:37 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:25:37 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Screen Clip Tool in Windows 8.1
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jLbE3NPmOT5idMxMB2Gy=ECvF4j_Z40OoVYN8aZPh3SQ@mail.gmail.com>

Has the screen clip tool disappeared from Windows 8.1? I can't seem to find
it.

-- 
Arthur

From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Feb 24 10:12:04 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:12:04 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Screen Clip Tool in Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jLbE3NPmOT5idMxMB2Gy=ECvF4j_Z40OoVYN8aZPh3SQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jLbE3NPmOT5idMxMB2Gy=ECvF4j_Z40OoVYN8aZPh3SQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4772b529914d48ef9a4b9578f362d1ad@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

Go to the Start Screen. Type clip or tool.

/gustav
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Sendt: 24. februar 2014 16:25
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Screen Clip Tool in Windows 8.1

Has the screen clip tool disappeared from Windows 8.1? I can't seem to find
it.

--
Arthur


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Feb 24 13:24:11 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:24:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Screen Clip Tool in Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <4772b529914d48ef9a4b9578f362d1ad@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jLbE3NPmOT5idMxMB2Gy=ECvF4j_Z40OoVYN8aZPh3SQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4772b529914d48ef9a4b9578f362d1ad@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hKmhMpHcjwX7d8FGAf_8b+hOf262Kq+nMPsZb+S-e4rg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Gustav! Before you replied, I tried the old trick of Alt+PrtScr and
got what I needed. IIRC, in previous versions of Windows this keystroke
combination grabbed the entire screen. Now it grabs only the window with
focus, which was actually what I wanted.

Arthur


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> Go to the Start Screen. Type clip or tool.
>
> /gustav

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Feb 24 13:30:55 2014
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:30:55 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Screen Clip Tool in Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hKmhMpHcjwX7d8FGAf_8b+hOf262Kq+nMPsZb+S-e4rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jLbE3NPmOT5idMxMB2Gy=ECvF4j_Z40OoVYN8aZPh3SQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4772b529914d48ef9a4b9578f362d1ad@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAEPJO1hKmhMpHcjwX7d8FGAf_8b+hOf262Kq+nMPsZb+S-e4rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWHEQifsJvBQDrYQ=3c-bZFiqboO=aHt=AG3Oy2NQiurUg@mail.gmail.com>

Alt+PrtScn has captured only the active window for as long as I can
remember. PrtScn by itself has captured the entire display.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Gustav! Before you replied, I tried the old trick of Alt+PrtScr and
> got what I needed. IIRC, in previous versions of Windows this keystroke
> combination grabbed the entire screen. Now it grabs only the window with
> focus, which was actually what I wanted.
>
> Arthur
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arthur
>>
>> Go to the Start Screen. Type clip or tool.
>>
>> /gustav
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-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Feb 24 13:34:46 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:34:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Screen Clip Tool in Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWHEQifsJvBQDrYQ=3c-bZFiqboO=aHt=AG3Oy2NQiurUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jLbE3NPmOT5idMxMB2Gy=ECvF4j_Z40OoVYN8aZPh3SQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4772b529914d48ef9a4b9578f362d1ad@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAEPJO1hKmhMpHcjwX7d8FGAf_8b+hOf262Kq+nMPsZb+S-e4rg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWHEQifsJvBQDrYQ=3c-bZFiqboO=aHt=AG3Oy2NQiurUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hTpzWrtcjrnJ=sXWGQAwwtBibN8W6Mm-Af8Cci7AH9Ww@mail.gmail.com>

Bryan,

I stand corrected. Thx.

Arthur


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>wrote:

> Alt+PrtScn has captured only the active window for as long as I can
> remember. PrtScn by itself has captured the entire display.
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 24 16:21:08 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:21:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] My next smartphone
In-Reply-To: <1091198122.17584200.1393101575628.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <721879251.19214209.1393280468234.JavaMail.root@cds002>

It seems that Canonical is entering the Smartphone market.

In this market it is always good to see another competitor as iPhone and Android have such an unstoppable lead. The new Linux phones will be almost one hundred percent compatible with the Ubuntu Linux desktop and also support all iPhone and Android apps, right out of the box. To my way of thinking that is impressive...

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-ubuntu-phone-is-official-let-the-madness-begin/#ftag=RSS56d97e7

The Ubuntu Linux Smartphone specs are as follows: http://en.meizu.com/products/mx3-product.html

Jim   

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 24 16:29:08 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:29:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The latest and the greatest
In-Reply-To: <1091198122.17584200.1393101575628.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <1642957235.19223253.1393280948050.JavaMail.root@cds002>

If you are wondering what the biggest startups are here is is list of the best:

http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140223132312-175081329-the-25-hottest-tech-startups-to-watch-for?trk=eml-ced-b-art-Ch-4&midToken=AQGWoRewiPBTog&ut=2TVk2_ExZvl681

Some of these newbes, at least relatively so look great.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 24 16:55:58 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:55:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] An online assembler
In-Reply-To: <1642957235.19223253.1393280948050.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <99191625.19249829.1393282558047.JavaMail.root@cds002>

For those who have ever worked with assembler or are hacking electronic hardware together here is a link to an online assembler emulator. 

http://yasp.me

"...yasp is a fully functional web-based assembler development environment, including a real assembler, emulator and debugger."

See demo: http://demo.yasp.me and sample programs: https://github.com/yasp/yasp/tree/master/doc/sampleprograms

Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Feb 25 10:37:24 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:37:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the
"available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email
residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST
file?

-- 
Arthur

From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Feb 25 10:50:20 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:50:20 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e39d39eecf174e70ada3cb605996d414@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Depends on your version of Outlook. I think 2013 can handle 4gb and 2010 was 2gb.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the "available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST file?

--
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Feb 25 10:52:53 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:52:53 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B6574A6D3A9544EA9D722B1C69E720F0@HAL9007>

My pst is right now 1.7GB; my archive is just south of 5GB.

They have size limits:
http://email.about.com/od/outlook/f/pst_size_limit.htm

But none of us will probably get there.


Rocky 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the
"available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email
residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST
file?

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Feb 25 10:54:36 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:54:36 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
In-Reply-To: <e39d39eecf174e70ada3cb605996d414@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>
	<e39d39eecf174e70ada3cb605996d414@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <9B098D091EEF409D9259A903B9EBF105@HAL9007>

Bigger - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982577

By default, Personal Folders (.pst) and offline Outlook Data File (.ost)
files are in Unicode format in Microsoft Outlook 2010 and Outlook 2013. The
overall size of .pst and .ost files has a preconfigured limit of 50 GB. This
limit is larger than the limit for Unicode .pst and .ost files in Outlook
2007 and Outlook 2003.  For more information, click the following article
number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 

The default .pst file size limit in Outlook 2007 and in Outlook 2003 is 20
GB. If you are using a computer that has Outlook 2007 or Outlook 2003
installed, and you want to access a Unicode .pst file that was created in
Outlook 2010 or later, you may have to reduce the size of the .pst file if
the file size is at or near 20 GB. If the file size is greater than 20 GB,
you will be unable to open the .pst file. 

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Lonza Slough
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:50 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

Depends on your version of Outlook. I think 2013 can handle 4gb and 2010 was
2gb.


Jon

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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the
"available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email
residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST
file?

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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Feb 25 10:55:39 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:55:39 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
In-Reply-To: <B6574A6D3A9544EA9D722B1C69E720F0@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B6574A6D3A9544EA9D722B1C69E720F0@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <6f267cfa9fc04ce68b32cda4eb4af32d@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Oh, seems like I was wrong. I knew one of the versions had a 2gb limit :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:53 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

My pst is right now 1.7GB; my archive is just south of 5GB.

They have size limits:
http://email.about.com/od/outlook/f/pst_size_limit.htm

But none of us will probably get there.


Rocky

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the "available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST file?

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 25 11:42:40 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:42:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1464311995.381422.1393350160206.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

I think Outlook can handle 2GB of data without problems...but if the version you have installed is like older versions when that 2B limit (or what ever limit it currently has), the oldest messages are added to an auto-generated archive of the current Outlook data file. 

It can be a real pain. Use to have a steady Insurance/Mutual fund company support contract and for the local sales staff emails, we just kept attaching any newly generated archives to the Outlook list. The problem was of course that it could be a real slow process when trying to find a contact over a year ago...and some of the agents had emails that went back over ten years.

Gmail has definitely resolved that problem.

Jim  

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From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 25 February, 2014 8:37:24 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the
"available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email
residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST
file?

-- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 25 11:44:54 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:44:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
In-Reply-To: <9B098D091EEF409D9259A903B9EBF105@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <2015449712.384833.1393350294283.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Rocky:

Thanks for the research...good to know.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 25 February, 2014 8:54:36 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

Bigger - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982577

By default, Personal Folders (.pst) and offline Outlook Data File (.ost)
files are in Unicode format in Microsoft Outlook 2010 and Outlook 2013. The
overall size of .pst and .ost files has a preconfigured limit of 50 GB. This
limit is larger than the limit for Unicode .pst and .ost files in Outlook
2007 and Outlook 2003.  For more information, click the following article
number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 

The default .pst file size limit in Outlook 2007 and in Outlook 2003 is 20
GB. If you are using a computer that has Outlook 2007 or Outlook 2003
installed, and you want to access a Unicode .pst file that was created in
Outlook 2010 or later, you may have to reduce the size of the .pst file if
the file size is at or near 20 GB. If the file size is greater than 20 GB,
you will be unable to open the .pst file. 

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Lonza Slough
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:50 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

Depends on your version of Outlook. I think 2013 can handle 4gb and 2010 was
2gb.


Jon

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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the
"available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email
residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST
file?

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 25 13:56:36 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:56:36 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Test everything
In-Reply-To: <99191625.19249829.1393282558047.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <681142291.549537.1393358196170.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

There is a universal (mostly and many) testing service for checking all web applications. It is all web based, uses a secure (encrypted) VPN and works in conjunction with your development repository.

https://saucelabs.com/lp/selenium-auto?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=remarketing-banners&utm_campaign=USA-remarketing&gclid=CIL6tuPq57wCFcZrfgodlUEARQ

(Note: I have not used the product, but listened to a podcast on the program or do I have any idea of the pricing schedules)

Jim   

From bheid at sc.rr.com  Tue Feb 25 20:14:22 2014
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:14:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
In-Reply-To: <9B098D091EEF409D9259A903B9EBF105@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>	<e39d39eecf174e70ada3cb605996d414@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<9B098D091EEF409D9259A903B9EBF105@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <000901cf3298$76eff990$64cfecb0$@sc.rr.com>

You can also have several PST files connected at once.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

Bigger - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982577

By default, Personal Folders (.pst) and offline Outlook Data File (.ost)
files are in Unicode format in Microsoft Outlook 2010 and Outlook 2013. The
overall size of .pst and .ost files has a preconfigured limit of 50 GB. This
limit is larger than the limit for Unicode .pst and .ost files in Outlook
2007 and Outlook 2003.  For more information, click the following article
number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 

The default .pst file size limit in Outlook 2007 and in Outlook 2003 is 20
GB. If you are using a computer that has Outlook 2007 or Outlook 2003
installed, and you want to access a Unicode .pst file that was created in
Outlook 2010 or later, you may have to reduce the size of the .pst file if
the file size is at or near 20 GB. If the file size is greater than 20 GB,
you will be unable to open the .pst file. 

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Lonza Slough
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:50 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

Depends on your version of Outlook. I think 2013 can handle 4gb and 2010 was
2gb.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the
"available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email
residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST
file?

--
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Feb 26 00:17:38 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 00:17:38 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question
In-Reply-To: <000901cf3298$76eff990$64cfecb0$@sc.rr.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gcD+2WR7fvXXpehOxz=CVSkn3qNCGjge3A+Z4iwoN3uA@mail.gmail.com>	<e39d39eecf174e70ada3cb605996d414@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>	<9B098D091EEF409D9259A903B9EBF105@HAL9007>
	<000901cf3298$76eff990$64cfecb0$@sc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <015c01cf32ba$734129f0$59c37dd0$@winhaven.net>

Yes, and this is a great way to handle business email. I have a number of
.pst files, one for each sector of my business. I do not use the auto
archive feature. I just include my .pst storage folder in my backups. I'll
never run out of room and I can search the entire lot of them in seconds. 

AND I rest assured that I don't get advertising based on this collection ;-)

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:14 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

You can also have several PST files connected at once.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:55 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

Bigger - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982577

By default, Personal Folders (.pst) and offline Outlook Data File (.ost)
files are in Unicode format in Microsoft Outlook 2010 and Outlook 2013. The
overall size of .pst and .ost files has a preconfigured limit of 50 GB. This
limit is larger than the limit for Unicode .pst and .ost files in Outlook
2007 and Outlook 2003.  For more information, click the following article
number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 

The default .pst file size limit in Outlook 2007 and in Outlook 2003 is 20
GB. If you are using a computer that has Outlook 2007 or Outlook 2003
installed, and you want to access a Unicode .pst file that was created in
Outlook 2010 or later, you may have to reduce the size of the .pst file if
the file size is at or near 20 GB. If the file size is greater than 20 GB,
you will be unable to open the .pst file. 

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Lonza Slough
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:50 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

Depends on your version of Outlook. I think 2013 can handle 4gb and 2010 was
2gb.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook.pst question

I have Outlook installed but (almost) never use it, preferring the
"available anywhere" aspect of gmail. By now I have about 1.5 GB of email
residing on the Gmail server.

Can Outlook handle this much email? Is there a known size limit to a PST
file?

--
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 08:02:40 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:02:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] And You Think You've Got a Large Project
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i73yOpaMfwWuJGOd2EXsk0c32jTWoNKviuHYVUdvf4wQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here's a summary of a project by Shimizu Corporation to build an 11K solar
strip -- on the moon.

http://spaceindustrynews.com/japanese-company-proposes-to-build-solar-power-cells-on-the-moon-to-provide-clean-energy-to-earth/4187/

-- 
Arthur

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Feb 26 09:53:40 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:53:40 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?
Message-ID: <d6acabb6ec574211b8f52971e469bf58@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

Someone sends me emz image files. These are gzip'ed Windows Enhanced Metagraphic files.

I can drag and drop them onto an open Word or PowerPoint in document view, and they display at once in the document.
But how can I open them directly so I would be able just to double-click an emz file?

/gustav

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Feb 26 10:12:24 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:12:24 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?
In-Reply-To: <d6acabb6ec574211b8f52971e469bf58@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <d6acabb6ec574211b8f52971e469bf58@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <ED5939D6497C4D82A950E1284FBB4053@HAL9007>

Wouldn't you need some kind of viewer and associate that viewer with the emz
extension?  How about Irfanview?
R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi all

Someone sends me emz image files. These are gzip'ed Windows Enhanced
Metagraphic files.

I can drag and drop them onto an open Word or PowerPoint in document view,
and they display at once in the document.
But how can I open them directly so I would be able just to double-click an
emz file?

/gustav
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Feb 26 10:21:24 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:21:24 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?
Message-ID: <d52388a1a77146dea66b6c63281406cb@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rocky

That was my first thought, but it is a no-go:

https://irfanview-forum.de/showthread.php?t=9810

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 26. februar 2014 17:12
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Wouldn't you need some kind of viewer and associate that viewer with the emz extension?  How about Irfanview?
R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi all

Someone sends me emz image files. These are gzip'ed Windows Enhanced Metagraphic files.

I can drag and drop them onto an open Word or PowerPoint in document view, and they display at once in the document.
But how can I open them directly so I would be able just to double-click an emz file?

/gustav 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Feb 26 10:28:53 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:28:53 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?
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On that thread I read:

"I just bumped up against an EMZ file too. I used RAR to extract it, put an
EMF file extension on it and opened it with Irfanview." 

But that's not he double-click solution you're looking for.
 

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:21 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi Rocky

That was my first thought, but it is a no-go:

https://irfanview-forum.de/showthread.php?t=9810

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 26. februar 2014 17:12
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Wouldn't you need some kind of viewer and associate that viewer with the emz
extension?  How about Irfanview?
R


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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi all

Someone sends me emz image files. These are gzip'ed Windows Enhanced
Metagraphic files.

I can drag and drop them onto an open Word or PowerPoint in document view,
and they display at once in the document.
But how can I open them directly so I would be able just to double-click an
emz file?

/gustav 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Feb 26 10:38:16 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:38:16 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?
Message-ID: <860dd5ac31464569a71bac4b0fa02baf@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rocky

No, then it is faster to open Word, drag-n-drop the file, right-click the picture, and select Save picture as ...

/gustav


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Sendt: 26. februar 2014 17:29
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

On that thread I read:

"I just bumped up against an EMZ file too. I used RAR to extract it, put an EMF file extension on it and opened it with Irfanview." 

But that's not he double-click solution you're looking for.
 

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:21 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi Rocky

That was my first thought, but it is a no-go:

https://irfanview-forum.de/showthread.php?t=9810

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 26. februar 2014 17:12
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Wouldn't you need some kind of viewer and associate that viewer with the emz extension?  How about Irfanview?
R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi all

Someone sends me emz image files. These are gzip'ed Windows Enhanced Metagraphic files.

I can drag and drop them onto an open Word or PowerPoint in document view, and they display at once in the document.
But how can I open them directly so I would be able just to double-click an emz file?

/gustav


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 12:15:51 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:15:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stick To It- iveness
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h_mfan0t5R2+CU9pfVffjpmvEPZDTs+XrGJ=xkd13mkw@mail.gmail.com>

Those folks in Ottawa that developed QNX (e.g. a better Linux) have had
their share of ups and downs, but have stuck to it for decades now. Given
the decline (or is it Phoenix?) path of RIM (now Blackberry), there's good
news for the QNX folks. Ford (the car company, not the mayor) is going to
switch to QNX for all future vehicle-software.

Read more here:

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/02/25/0256235/ford-dumping-windows-for-qnx-in-new-vehicles

-- 
Arthur

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 14:46:24 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:46:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h+KD07X6KLXDG9Vxjhz+Hp2kaaY0DWZ4hyMGCwXZQYuA@mail.gmail.com>

Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.

Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
money?

As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know that
the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.

But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the first
B of your $100B, denominated in US $.

What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation and
donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would you
put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if you
sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it
all and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?

I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life, no
matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
starters... and then what would you do with $100B?

As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120 others,
all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such causes
as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and give
away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.

And you? What would you do?

Arthur

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Feb 26 17:52:43 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:52:43 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
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What you CAN'T do is spend it.  Remember, if you buy a private island with a
mansion for 100 mil, you haven't spent the money - merely traded one asset
for another.  Someday it will be sold and the money will come back to you -
maybe more than you paid.  Same as the yacht you bought to get to your
island.  Same as the Manhattan apartment you bought for when you're not on
your island.

You simply CANNOT consume that much money in goods and services.  So,
there's only three things you can do with the money - invest it in ventures
that makes even more money, do nothing with it (put it into a big bond
ladder and let it roll, accruing interest along the way), or give it away -
a la foundation.  

People think that it would be great to have tens or hundreds of millions in
the bank.  But after you've satisfied every creature comfort and whim, the
balance is a burden - an ethical obligation.

You learn in basic econ that money is stored value - that is the product of
someone's labor that has not yet been traded for good and services.  So when
you're handed a chunk of dough like that, or inherit it, in my book you have
an obligation to take care of it just as if you were taking care of the
person or people whose lives are represented by that money.  

Just as you are obligated to use your thousands for the benefit of your
family, you are obligated to use your billions to the betterment of your
society.

R




-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:46 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?

Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.

Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
money?

As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know that
the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.

But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the first B
of your $100B, denominated in US $.

What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation and
donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would you
put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if you
sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it all
and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?

I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life, no
matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
starters... and then what would you do with $100B?

As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120 others,
all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such causes
as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and give
away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.

And you? What would you do?

Arthur

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From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Wed Feb 26 18:28:16 2014
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:28:16 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
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> What would you do with $100B?

I think I might buy WhatsApp.

- Hans

On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
> adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
> moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.
> 
> Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
> had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
> money?
> 
> As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know that
> the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
> outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.
> 
> But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the first
> B of your $100B, denominated in US $.
> 
> What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation and
> donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would you
> put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
> Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if you
> sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
> alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it
> all and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?
> 
> I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
> interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
> still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life, no
> matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
> starters... and then what would you do with $100B?
> 
> As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
> formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120 others,
> all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such causes
> as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and give
> away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
> Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.
> 
> And you? What would you do?
> 
> Arthur
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 20:50:45 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:50:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
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Rocky,

You and I would appear to be on the same page: pay it forward.

Hans,
Ok that took care of the first $19B. Now what?

As for me, I think that I might devote a few $B to the asteroid-mining
adventures, and the remainder to micros-economic venture loans, and such
causes as creating opportunities for women's education in nations where
that is a problem.

Arthur


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen <
hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote:

>
> > What would you do with $100B?
>
> I think I might buy WhatsApp.
>
> - Hans
>
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
> > adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
> > moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.
> >
> > Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
> > had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
> > money?
> >
> > As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know
> that
> > the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
> > outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.
> >
> > But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the
> first
> > B of your $100B, denominated in US $.
> >
> > What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation
> and
> > donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would
> you
> > put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
> > Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if
> you
> > sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
> > alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it
> > all and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?
> >
> > I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
> > interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
> > still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life,
> no
> > matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
> > starters... and then what would you do with $100B?
> >
> > As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
> > formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120
> others,
> > all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such
> causes
> > as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and
> give
> > away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
> > Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.
> >
> > And you? What would you do?
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Wed Feb 26 23:02:55 2014
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:02:55 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
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	<3BF255E4-8857-4027-9E08-2C8989AD8563@phulse.com>
	<CAEPJO1hspEFLD3vB_=87VuOvvbr7BuMaHk_u07Ecc9mUPL7QtQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> Ok that took care of the first $19B. Now what?

Oh, that was yesterday. Now they?ve hired 1 or 2 more employees and acquired a few more thousand users, so their value has shot up to $99.9 billion.

You?re not thinking big picture here, Arthur. BIG. PICTURE. WhatsApp sends text messages and pictures from one phone to another.  Maybe even on the PC one day! This is ground breaking stuff here. If you ask me $99.9 billion dollars isn?t nearly what it?s truly worth. We?re helping people communicate here. Amazing stuff.

Besides, they need a new owner because it turns out that Facebook stock is worth about as much as monopoly currency.

- Hans



On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rocky,
> 
> You and I would appear to be on the same page: pay it forward.
> 
> Hans,
> Ok that took care of the first $19B. Now what?
> 
> As for me, I think that I might devote a few $B to the asteroid-mining
> adventures, and the remainder to micros-economic venture loans, and such
> causes as creating opportunities for women's education in nations where
> that is a problem.
> 
> Arthur
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen <
> hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> What would you do with $100B?
>> 
>> I think I might buy WhatsApp.
>> 
>> - Hans
>> 
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
>>> adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
>>> moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.
>>> 
>>> Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
>>> had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
>>> money?
>>> 
>>> As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know
>> that
>>> the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
>>> outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.
>>> 
>>> But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the
>> first
>>> B of your $100B, denominated in US $.
>>> 
>>> What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation
>> and
>>> donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would
>> you
>>> put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
>>> Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if
>> you
>>> sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
>>> alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it
>>> all and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?
>>> 
>>> I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
>>> interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
>>> still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life,
>> no
>>> matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
>>> starters... and then what would you do with $100B?
>>> 
>>> As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
>>> formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120
>> others,
>>> all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such
>> causes
>>> as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and
>> give
>>> away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
>>> Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.
>>> 
>>> And you? What would you do?
>>> 
>>> Arthur
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Arthur
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
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From eptept at gmail.com  Thu Feb 27 06:35:55 2014
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 07:35:55 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
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FWIW, I agree the money should be setup in a foundation or something
legally similar.  But I think the target audience for this money should
reside in the USA, assuming that's where the money was generated from.  I'm
not against, by any means, improving the state of third world countries but
they are often consumed by politics and corruption.  If you can use the
money to fight that, it would benefit the people but the success rate would
be extremely low.  Where's Dickford to shoot me down on this??


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
> adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
> moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.
>
> Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
> had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
> money?
>
> As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know that
> the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
> outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.
>
> But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the first
> B of your $100B, denominated in US $.
>
> What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation and
> donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would you
> put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
> Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if you
> sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
> alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it
> all and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?
>
> I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
> interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
> still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life, no
> matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
> starters... and then what would you do with $100B?
>
> As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
> formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120 others,
> all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such causes
> as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and give
> away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
> Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.
>
> And you? What would you do?
>
> Arthur
>
> --
> Arthur
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu Feb 27 13:11:37 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:11:37 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Takes Aim at Java Security With EMET 5
Message-ID: <01ad01cf33ef$bd867660$38936320$@winhaven.net>

I just hope this doesn't make things worse for end users.
http://tinyurl.com/l47dp6x

91% of exploits are via java. Lately its seems that 91% of my tech calls are
to get java to work with specific apps.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 27 15:56:52 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 14:56:52 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] And You Think You've Got a Large Project
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i73yOpaMfwWuJGOd2EXsk0c32jTWoNKviuHYVUdvf4wQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1271780765.2807309.1393538212123.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

That is extremely interesting. They are saying it may be implemented by 2035.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:02:40 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] And You Think You've Got a Large Project

Here's a summary of a project by Shimizu Corporation to build an 11K solar
strip -- on the moon.

http://spaceindustrynews.com/japanese-company-proposes-to-build-solar-power-cells-on-the-moon-to-provide-clean-energy-to-earth/4187/

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 27 16:08:03 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:08:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?
In-Reply-To: <d6acabb6ec574211b8f52971e469bf58@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1413671128.2817458.1393538883706.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

To my understanding it is a pure proprietary Microsoft display format that is pre-compressed. Until there is a open standard method for using this type of format it is unlikely to be used...not even Adobe can handle those files. (I have heard that the format implementation may be banned in Europe?)

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:53:40 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi all

Someone sends me emz image files. These are gzip'ed Windows Enhanced Metagraphic files.

I can drag and drop them onto an open Word or PowerPoint in document view, and they display at once in the document.
But how can I open them directly so I would be able just to double-click an emz file?

/gustav
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 27 16:16:10 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:16:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stick To It- iveness
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1h_mfan0t5R2+CU9pfVffjpmvEPZDTs+XrGJ=xkd13mkw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <681695243.2828788.1393539370404.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

There are of course three reasons for doing this. One, QNX has a super small foot print so it can be run on devices with less resources and two and most important, "the cost". The finally reason(s) would be the duel cluster of stability and security.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at gmail.com>
Cc: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:15:51 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stick To It- iveness

Those folks in Ottawa that developed QNX (e.g. a better Linux) have had
their share of ups and downs, but have stuck to it for decades now. Given
the decline (or is it Phoenix?) path of RIM (now Blackberry), there's good
news for the QNX folks. Ford (the car company, not the mayor) is going to
switch to QNX for all future vehicle-software.

Read more here:

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/02/25/0256235/ford-dumping-windows-for-qnx-in-new-vehicles

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Feb 27 16:56:59 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 17:56:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] And You Think You've Got a Large Project
In-Reply-To: <1271780765.2807309.1393538212123.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAEPJO1i73yOpaMfwWuJGOd2EXsk0c32jTWoNKviuHYVUdvf4wQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1271780765.2807309.1393538212123.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jj16BTW2wX6m2po_O_eN86gHrjsueYJP6iFJoPtixLnA@mail.gmail.com>

I think that it smells like Workable, and that it could change Everything.

A.


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> That is extremely interesting. They are saying it may be implemented by
> 2035.
>
> Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Feb 27 17:01:09 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:01:09 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stick To It- iveness
In-Reply-To: <681695243.2828788.1393539370404.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAEPJO1h_mfan0t5R2+CU9pfVffjpmvEPZDTs+XrGJ=xkd13mkw@mail.gmail.com>
	<681695243.2828788.1393539370404.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g5W+588uCy3qCT+W9O3Lr8A4APATi5XzfdhS0mtR60cQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bust my balls for championing Canadian-grown stuff; so be it. Years ago I
met the principals of QNX for an article that I penned for Computing Canada
magazine. My hat is off to these guys who managed to stay afloat in all the
OS turbulence.

Arthur


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> There are of course three reasons for doing this. One, QNX has a super
> small foot print so it can be run on devices with less resources and two
> and most important, "the cost". The finally reason(s) would be the duel
> cluster of stability and security.
>
> Jim

From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Feb 28 01:33:00 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 07:33:00 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?
Message-ID: <df6bd95390e249a0a903c25b840dce96@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

I haven't heard of a ban. And why should it be? After all, it is just a gzip'ed metagraphics file, so no magic. I guess Irfanview could have a plugin to handle it quite easily.
It's not an issue for me as I don't need batch handling; I just receive a file now and then from this client. On the other hand, I like to be able just to double-click a file to open it.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 27. februar 2014 23:08
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi Gustav:

To my understanding it is a pure proprietary Microsoft display format that is pre-compressed. Until there is a open standard method for using this type of format it is unlikely to be used...not even Adobe can handle those files. (I have heard that the format implementation may be banned in Europe?)

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:53:40 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi all

Someone sends me emz image files. These are gzip'ed Windows Enhanced Metagraphic files.

I can drag and drop them onto an open Word or PowerPoint in document view, and they display at once in the document.
But how can I open them directly so I would be able just to double-click an emz file?

/gustav 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 28 10:59:27 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:59:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
In-Reply-To: <3BF255E4-8857-4027-9E08-2C8989AD8563@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <561538155.3474799.1393606767696.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Hans:

Looks like an awesome app: http://www.whatsapp.com/

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:28:16 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?


> What would you do with $100B?

I think I might buy WhatsApp.

- Hans

On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
> adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
> moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.
> 
> Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
> had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
> money?
> 
> As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know that
> the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
> outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.
> 
> But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the first
> B of your $100B, denominated in US $.
> 
> What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation and
> donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would you
> put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
> Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if you
> sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
> alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it
> all and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?
> 
> I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
> interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
> still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life, no
> matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
> starters... and then what would you do with $100B?
> 
> As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
> formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120 others,
> all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such causes
> as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and give
> away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
> Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.
> 
> And you? What would you do?
> 
> Arthur
> 
> -- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 28 11:01:47 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:01:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
In-Reply-To: <132ACC0A62144298BE22B5B4E59B278D@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <269402535.3477424.1393606907127.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Rocky:

Then why not do what so many are...just buy the government and make then do as you wish?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:52:43 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?

What you CAN'T do is spend it.  Remember, if you buy a private island with a
mansion for 100 mil, you haven't spent the money - merely traded one asset
for another.  Someday it will be sold and the money will come back to you -
maybe more than you paid.  Same as the yacht you bought to get to your
island.  Same as the Manhattan apartment you bought for when you're not on
your island.

You simply CANNOT consume that much money in goods and services.  So,
there's only three things you can do with the money - invest it in ventures
that makes even more money, do nothing with it (put it into a big bond
ladder and let it roll, accruing interest along the way), or give it away -
a la foundation.  

People think that it would be great to have tens or hundreds of millions in
the bank.  But after you've satisfied every creature comfort and whim, the
balance is a burden - an ethical obligation.

You learn in basic econ that money is stored value - that is the product of
someone's labor that has not yet been traded for good and services.  So when
you're handed a chunk of dough like that, or inherit it, in my book you have
an obligation to take care of it just as if you were taking care of the
person or people whose lives are represented by that money.  

Just as you are obligated to use your thousands for the benefit of your
family, you are obligated to use your billions to the betterment of your
society.

R




-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:46 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?

Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.

Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
money?

As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know that
the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.

But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the first B
of your $100B, denominated in US $.

What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation and
donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would you
put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if you
sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it all
and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?

I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life, no
matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
starters... and then what would you do with $100B?

As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120 others,
all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such causes
as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and give
away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.

And you? What would you do?

Arthur

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Feb 28 11:45:25 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:45:25 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?
In-Reply-To: <269402535.3477424.1393606907127.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <132ACC0A62144298BE22B5B4E59B278D@HAL9007>
	<269402535.3477424.1393606907127.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <4EE47A633F7D4266B6C1D29C850399F7@HAL9007>

If there's something that you believe in strongly enough to spend your time
trying to change in government - a policy, a law, etc. - then you could use
that money to that end.  You can finance campaigns to help get the people
elected who support your position.  You can buy media time and broadcast
your message.  All that money will help.

All that is currently within the constitutionally guaranteed right of free
speech and while I would like to change that, it's the current rules of the
game.

If you're suggesting illegal activity like bribery I don't think that's
going on on a massive scale.  The millions or hundreds of millions spent on
politicking don't need to be hidden - they're legal expenditures.

As far as an elected official taking money to change their vote - I don't
think that's going on on any large scale.  It's just not necessary.

But if course, all that presumes that you're interested enough to spend your
money on that versus building a hospital or funding an orphanage.

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 9:02 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?

Hi Rocky:

Then why not do what so many are...just buy the government and make then do
as you wish?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:52:43 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?

What you CAN'T do is spend it.  Remember, if you buy a private island with a
mansion for 100 mil, you haven't spent the money - merely traded one asset
for another.  Someday it will be sold and the money will come back to you -
maybe more than you paid.  Same as the yacht you bought to get to your
island.  Same as the Manhattan apartment you bought for when you're not on
your island.

You simply CANNOT consume that much money in goods and services.  So,
there's only three things you can do with the money - invest it in ventures
that makes even more money, do nothing with it (put it into a big bond
ladder and let it roll, accruing interest along the way), or give it away -
a la foundation.  

People think that it would be great to have tens or hundreds of millions in
the bank.  But after you've satisfied every creature comfort and whim, the
balance is a burden - an ethical obligation.

You learn in basic econ that money is stored value - that is the product of
someone's labor that has not yet been traded for good and services.  So when
you're handed a chunk of dough like that, or inherit it, in my book you have
an obligation to take care of it just as if you were taking care of the
person or people whose lives are represented by that money.  

Just as you are obligated to use your thousands for the benefit of your
family, you are obligated to use your billions to the betterment of your
society.

R




-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:46 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: What would you do with $100B?

Just finished reading the articles at Wired and NYT about Egon's latest
adventures, and also the Shimizu plan to create an 11K solar strip on the
moon and broadcase said power back to Earth.

Which raises the question... Suppose your app went viral and suddenly you
had a million users, with attendant revenues. What would you do with the
money?

As an initial guess, I would factor in Number of Spouses (did you know that
the plural of Spouse is Spice?), number of college-ready children,
outstanding mortgage, car leases/loans, etc.

But let us suppose that all these exigencies could be handled by the first B
of your $100B, denominated in US $.

What would you do with the rest? Would you join Bill Gates's foundation and
donate 51% toward curing malaria and similar infectious diseases? Would you
put some loot into breast-cancer research? Send medicine + education to
Third World countries (e.g. this concerns some African beliefs that if you
sleep with a very young girl, you stave off HIV/AIDS)? Or, radically
alternative to the aforementioned proposals, would you choose to keep it all
and let the lawyers figure it out upon your demise?

I know that it's an imaginary question, but nonetheless I shall be
interested in your responses. Even if we divide the amount by 100, it's
still more money than you could possibly spend in the rest of your life, no
matter how serious your habits; so what would you do with $1B? For
starters... and then what would you do with $100B?

As for me, I would join the group of billionaires that the Gates's have
formed, that includes Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson and 120 others,
all of whom have decided to give a minimum of 51% away, towards such causes
as curing malaria and polio. As for me, I would go a lot further, and give
away about 90% not 51%, leaving me enough to go vacation in Mallorca and
Shanghai and Havana every year pending my demise.

And you? What would you do?

Arthur

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 28 12:19:25 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:19:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Takes Aim at Java Security With EMET 5
In-Reply-To: <01ad01cf33ef$bd867660$38936320$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1457465222.3568451.1393611565255.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi John:

To my understanding the latest versions of Java (...and Flash) are very secure but just like older (newer?) versions of Windows, they are not secure. If this application, Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit (EMET) resolves these issues it will be a great leap forward for the Windows OS.

It sounds like a recommended upgrade.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "DBA-Tech" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:11:37 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Takes Aim at Java Security With EMET 5

I just hope this doesn't make things worse for end users.
http://tinyurl.com/l47dp6x

91% of exploits are via java. Lately its seems that 91% of my tech calls are
to get java to work with specific apps.


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 28 12:43:06 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:43:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stick To It- iveness
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g5W+588uCy3qCT+W9O3Lr8A4APATi5XzfdhS0mtR60cQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <839522057.3599230.1393612986414.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

Out here it seems the federal government has been using QNX for years. Ocean Sciences uses the QNX OS on a number of products that they have developed in-house. For monitoring the coastal movement and local seismic activity. At the Dominion Astrophysical Observatory where they designed an application using QNX that removes the atmospheric distortion from reflector telescopes. (I understand that the best Celestrons will be introducing this technology in their product line).

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:01:09 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Stick To It- iveness

Bust my balls for championing Canadian-grown stuff; so be it. Years ago I
met the principals of QNX for an article that I penned for Computing Canada
magazine. My hat is off to these guys who managed to stay afloat in all the
OS turbulence.

Arthur


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> There are of course three reasons for doing this. One, QNX has a super
> small foot print so it can be run on devices with less resources and two
> and most important, "the cost". The finally reason(s) would be the duel
> cluster of stability and security.
>
> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 28 13:09:37 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:09:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?
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Hi Gustav:

TMU there is not a specific ban on this proprietary image format but there is an attempt at the standardization on file formats through out the ECM. It seems that Microsoft has been specifically targeted because of their continually changing of formats which appear to have no other purpose than to block competition and protect the MS environment.

If this new format gets the nod it will join the other opened standards and then undoubtedly all the major graphic applications will support it.

Interesting aside: Few internet graphic formats benefit from compression as they are already fully optimized; like jpeg.

Jim      

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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:33:00 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi Jim

I haven't heard of a ban. And why should it be? After all, it is just a gzip'ed metagraphics file, so no magic. I guess Irfanview could have a plugin to handle it quite easily.
It's not an issue for me as I don't need batch handling; I just receive a file now and then from this client. On the other hand, I like to be able just to double-click a file to open it.

/gustav

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Hi Gustav:

To my understanding it is a pure proprietary Microsoft display format that is pre-compressed. Until there is a open standard method for using this type of format it is unlikely to be used...not even Adobe can handle those files. (I have heard that the format implementation may be banned in Europe?)

Jim 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:53:40 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to open emz files?

Hi all

Someone sends me emz image files. These are gzip'ed Windows Enhanced Metagraphic files.

I can drag and drop them onto an open Word or PowerPoint in document view, and they display at once in the document.
But how can I open them directly so I would be able just to double-click an emz file?

/gustav 

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