From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Jul  1 11:33:03 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:33:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] OpenLayers - An Alternative to Google Maps
Message-ID: <010301cf954a$21ae8e00$650baa00$@winhaven.net>

http://www.sitepoint.com/openlayers-alternative-google-maps/?utm_content=buf
fer4e765&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jul  4 20:30:06 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 19:30:06 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] I have a dream
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jKVwK5RPz=fYRE+xPk7oLbLbbHLipgkGN-K1a_7ZqpsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <475207527.24648479.1404523806456.JavaMail.root@cds018>

You could definitely build your own app for such a purpose.

When ever I start my browsers it comes up with my own web page that has a list of sites I tend to visit a lot...it is all ultra basic but I am sure it could be easily be enhanced to open up a group of pages.

Here is a link to a JQuery method that would only require a few lines of code:

http://demos.jquerymobile.com/1.4.2/pages

It can probably be done even simpler.

Jim

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From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:11:30 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] I have a dream

I know, that's a cheesy subject title, but while less ambitious than M.L.
King's dream, I still think it's worth a moment's attention.

First of all, to bring it to fruition, I need to learn something about how
to write an add-in for FireFox and Google. Then I need to build it and
release it for free to anyone who suffers the same problem as I.

Here's the notion: groups of web pages, loaded automatically with a single
click on the new "Groups" button. For example (and not that you need
subscribe to my groups -- the whole point is that you create your own
groups. But let's stick with mine, just as an example:

Group 1: News
nytimes.com
torontostar.com
theregister.co.uk

Group 2: Coding
accessD at databaseadvisors.com
dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
alphasoftware.com

Group 3: Literature
nybooks.com
wikipedia.com

etc.

The point is, I want to replace my bookmarks toolbar with these sets of
pages, so that with one click I discard the current set and load a
predefined set of pages all at once. And I don't think I'm the only person
in the world to wish this were possible.

What language do I achieve this in? Javascript? HTML 5? I don't know, so
your advice would be helpful.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jul  4 21:38:00 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 20:38:00 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] I have a dream
In-Reply-To: <53B09463.21411.60947BAF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <848858168.24667843.1404527880052.JavaMail.root@cds018>

That would work just fine.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:34:11 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] I have a dream

I sort of do that every morning in Firefox.  I have a folder in my bookmarks called "Daily" 
which contains a selection of websites I check out each morning - things like XKCD, Dilbert, 
The Register etc. 

I right click on it and select "Open In Tabs".   All the bookmarks in the folder open in separate 
tabs.

I use an addon called Tree Style Tab. 
When I finish with the group of pages, I can right click on the Folder in the tab list amd select 
"Close This Tree"

On 29 Jun 2014 at 10:11, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I know, that's a cheesy subject title, but while less ambitious than
> M.L. King's dream, I still think it's worth a moment's attention.
> 
> First of all, to bring it to fruition, I need to learn something about
> how to write an add-in for FireFox and Google. Then I need to build it
> and release it for free to anyone who suffers the same problem as I.
> 
> Here's the notion: groups of web pages, loaded automatically with a
> single click on the new "Groups" button. For example (and not that you
> need subscribe to my groups -- the whole point is that you create your
> own groups. But let's stick with mine, just as an example:
> 
> Group 1: News
> nytimes.com
> torontostar.com
> theregister.co.uk
> 
> Group 2: Coding
> accessD at databaseadvisors.com
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> alphasoftware.com
> 
> Group 3: Literature
> nybooks.com
> wikipedia.com
> 
> etc.
> 
> The point is, I want to replace my bookmarks toolbar with these sets
> of pages, so that with one click I discard the current set and load a
> predefined set of pages all at once. And I don't think I'm the only
> person in the world to wish this were possible.
> 
> What language do I achieve this in? Javascript? HTML 5? I don't know,
> so your advice would be helpful.
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul  5 00:50:46 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 23:50:46 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] OpenLayers - An Alternative to Google Maps
In-Reply-To: <010301cf954a$21ae8e00$650baa00$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1088141292.24719197.1404539446981.JavaMail.root@cds018>

An excellent program.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "DBA-Tech" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 9:33:03 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] OpenLayers - An Alternative to Google Maps

http://www.sitepoint.com/openlayers-alternative-google-maps/?utm_content=buf
fer4e765&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul  7 23:00:59 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:00:59 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux in your car
In-Reply-To: <1401298764.785161493@f426.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <93606782.26291796.1404792059848.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

Next year's car models may be sporting some very interesting dashboards...

http://www.techrepublic.com/pictures/photos-a-look-at-the-linux-os-that-wants-to-get-inside-your-car/1

Jim 

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Jul  8 09:44:55 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 07:44:55 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
Message-ID: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>

Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?  
 
Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the
constant updates are getting real annoying.  
 
I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer for
a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
 
Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
 
TIA
 
Rocky
 

From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Tue Jul  8 09:56:59 2014
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 14:56:59 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA801ED08@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>

I use Foxit PDF Reader because it lets me mark up the PDF - add comments, draw on it etc.

http://www.foxitsoftware.com/

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:45 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?

Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?  
 
Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the constant updates are getting real annoying.  
 
I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer for a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
 
Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
 
TIA
 
Rocky
 
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Jul  8 10:02:26 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:02:26 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <9b3e51250be24084bdcd3259cc840c37@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Nitro is brilliant. We had a bit of a licencing issue with Acrobat, and when we looked at getting the required number of licences from Adobe, it was going to cost tens of thousands of pounds. So we looked for an alternative, and found Nitro - it's around a third of the cost of Acrobat, and does everything Acrobat does (except update every week).


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:45 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?

Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?

Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the constant updates are getting real annoying.

I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer for a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.

Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?

TIA

Rocky

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jul  8 10:04:58 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:04:58 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
Message-ID: <33a5c1310cbe4bd1a0fa7fa63dccb387@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rocky

We use Nitro a lot but have found that it from files refuses to display while Adobe will.
So it's a mix. That said, we use the Heimdal Security Agent to update the Adobe Reader automatically:

     http://www.csis.dk/en/business/heimdal/
     https://heimdalsecurity.com/en/products

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 8. juli 2014 16:45
Til: List
Emne: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?

Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?  
 
Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the constant updates are getting real annoying.  
 
I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer for a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
 
Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
 
TIA
 
Rocky


From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 10:40:20 2014
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:40:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pKz3=LMSgubpHDk=wup_fY-rwNYGMoCVMO_YtW1qpzELA@mail.gmail.com>

You can tell Reader to not do updates......select

Do Not download or install updates automatically

in Edit/Preferences/Updater

Not sure if it still prompts you about them.

My systems all seem to default to this

Automatically download updates, but let me choose when to install them

The bigger issue is with Adobe Flash Player I think as there have been
several exploits of that. As long as you never go to websites you are
probably OK without that. Ha ha.

GK


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

> Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?
>
> Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the
> constant updates are getting real annoying.
>
> I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer
> for
> a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
>
> Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
> Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From hkotsch at arcor.de  Tue Jul  8 11:27:21 2014
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:27:21 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <000001cf9ac9$7e468ad0$7ad3a070$@de>

I use the free version of the "pdf-xchange-viewer"

http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-viewer

Helmut
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Juli 2014 16:45
An: List
Betreff: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?

Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?  
 
Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the
constant updates are getting real annoying.  
 
I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer for
a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
 
Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
 
TIA
 
Rocky
 
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  8 12:18:25 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:18:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux in your car
In-Reply-To: <93606782.26291796.1404792059848.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <93606782.26291796.1404792059848.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <53BC27E1.3020703@earthlink.net>

On 2014-07-07 11:00 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Next year's car models may be sporting some very interesting dashboards...
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/pictures/photos-a-look-at-the-linux-os-that-wants-to-get-inside-your-car/1

Not-so-windows-centric coverage? ...

https://automotive.linuxfoundation.org/
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/72867.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/02/linux_turns_the_crank_on_code_for_cars/
http://www.zdnet.com/2014-the-year-of-the-linux-car-7000014091/

PB

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Jul  8 13:01:28 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:01:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <08a101cf9ad6$a5012bf0$ef0383d0$@winhaven.net>

I Adobe Reader because it's the standard. Turn off the auto updates and it
won't nag you. 

Apparently no one that uses other pdf readers is worried about pdf exploits
so why not? Every other pdf reader I've used also need updates because
nothing, it seems, is exploit proof. (I actually have an updater service
that checks on all of my MS and 3rd party products so I turn off all
auto-updaters.)

BTW Windows 8 has a PDF reader built in so you don't need anything
additional.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:45 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?

Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?  
 
Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the
constant updates are getting real annoying.  
 
I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer for
a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
 
Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
 
TIA
 
Rocky
 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Jul  8 15:33:53 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:33:53 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <08a101cf9ad6$a5012bf0$ef0383d0$@winhaven.net>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
	<08a101cf9ad6$a5012bf0$ef0383d0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <171CFD0E93B5409DBA1A4AD5B9C200BE@HAL9007>

Well, then, thanks to the list I will change my default pdf viewer to Nitro
and see how that goes.  I'm a little leery of using a product where the
vendor tells me I need an update and I don't get the update.   

Thanks all for your input.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 11:01 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?

I Adobe Reader because it's the standard. Turn off the auto updates and it
won't nag you. 

Apparently no one that uses other pdf readers is worried about pdf exploits
so why not? Every other pdf reader I've used also need updates because
nothing, it seems, is exploit proof. (I actually have an updater service
that checks on all of my MS and 3rd party products so I turn off all
auto-updaters.)

BTW Windows 8 has a PDF reader built in so you don't need anything
additional.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:45 AM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?

Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?  
 
Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the
constant updates are getting real annoying.  
 
I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer for
a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
 
Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
 
TIA
 
Rocky
 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul  8 17:04:30 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 08:04:30 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <53BC6AEE.14557.1453CD76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I haven't had Adobe on my own machines - I still see it on client machines where they have a 
corproate policy and it's still a dog.

I use and recommend  Foxit.

-- 
Stuart

On 8 Jul 2014 at 7:44, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?  
> 
> Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway
> the constant updates are getting real annoying.  
> 
> I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf
> viewer for a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
> 
> Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat
> Reader? Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Rocky
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul  8 19:29:17 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:29:17 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <53BC6AEE.14557.1453CD76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>,
	<53BC6AEE.14557.1453CD76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <53BC8CDD.16244.14D85BE2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Meant to say   "on my machines for many years".

On 9 Jul 2014 at 8:04, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> I haven't had Adobe on my own machines - I still see it on client
> machines where they have a corproate policy and it's still a dog.
> 
> I use and recommend  Foxit.
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 8 Jul 2014 at 7:44, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> 
> > Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?  
> > 
> > Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it. 
> > Anyway the constant updates are getting real annoying.  
> > 
> > I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf
> > viewer for a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
> > 
> > Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat
> > Reader? Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > Rocky
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> 
> 
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> 



From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Jul 10 03:15:10 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:15:10 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?One_for_All?=
Message-ID: <1404980110.666998635@f320.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All,

FYI:? https://codio.com/s/docs/boxes/box-parts/ ?- look through "Complete List of Parts Supported" in the bottom of the page.


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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Jul 11 05:03:41 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:03:41 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Cyclomatic_Complexity_of_real_life_projects?=
Message-ID: <1405073021.237632066@f410.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

I have used the SourceMonitor program ( http://www.campwoodsw.com/sourcemonitor.html ) to calculate Cyclomatic Complexity ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclomatic_complexity ) for two sets of my customers' C# projects' suites totaling 60 solutions and 293 projects, I guess about 15% of the sources are legacy, the rest has been developed from scratch here since the summer 2007. Only *.cs files were analyzed (*.designer.cs, *.aspx were skipped, SQL Server and MS Access databases were not analyzed et all etc.) The stats are in P.S. of this posting.

It's interesting to note that the following stats:

Avg. Depth = ~ 2.40
Avg.Complexity = ~ 2.20
Methods/Class = ~8
Calls/Method ? ?= ~2.4?
Stmts/Method = ?~6

(please check if I'm not mistaken)

seems to be "constant" for both sets. So they could be considered as a "signature" of a developer? 
Or are they "custom software development industry" overall average?
Could you please try to post your projects' stats and/or average "signatures"? - it doesn't matter will they be C# or VB(.NET) or VBA or .py ...

Yes, I know the code base stats I'm posting are far from being perfect but that is the real code used in the real life projects, which are currently driving real businesses.
BTW, in what money sum would you evaluate the costs of creating and supporting such a code base?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


P.S. The stats:

1st:
====
Solutions(.sln): 48 
Projecs(.csproj): 259
Files: 4555 
Lines: 952,234 
Statements: 418,009 
% Comments: 14.1 
% Docs: 6.5 
Classes: 5,480 
Methods/Class: 9.39
Calls/Method: 2.33
Stmts/Method: 5.37
Max Complexity: 265
Max Depth: 9+ 
Avg Depth: 2.40
Avg Complexity: 2.21

2nd:
====
Solutions(.sln): 12
Projecs(.csproj): 34
Files: 1680 
Lines: 351,624* 
Statements: 188,580 
% Comments: 10.9 
% Docs: 12.5 
Classes: 3,030 
Methods/Class: 6.68 
Calls/Method: 2.48 
Stmts/Method: 6.91 
Max Complexity: 113* 
Max Depth: 9+ 
Avg Depth: 2.28 
Avg Complexity: 2.17*
======================
Total Solutions(.sln): 60
Total Projecs(.csproj): 293



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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Fri Jul 11 08:36:08 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:36:08 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
Message-ID: <da9c67af69c54dee87fbee3de28ed8b0@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Hi all

I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?

Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?


Jon



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From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Fri Jul 11 09:36:30 2014
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:36:30 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
In-Reply-To: <da9c67af69c54dee87fbee3de28ed8b0@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <da9c67af69c54dee87fbee3de28ed8b0@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>

Totally free and totally cool...
http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/


Lambert
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Hi all

I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?

Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?


Jon



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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Fri Jul 11 09:48:35 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:48:35 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
In-Reply-To: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
References: <da9c67af69c54dee87fbee3de28ed8b0@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <9fe4f2eda2d14816968fefce07dc608b@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Thanks Lambert, that looks like it'll do the job!


Jon

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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 3:37 PM
To: 'Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Totally free and totally cool...
http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/


Lambert
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Hi all

I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?

Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?


Jon



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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 11 10:36:36 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:36:36 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
In-Reply-To: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
References: <da9c67af69c54dee87fbee3de28ed8b0@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <53C00484.1000508@earthlink.net>

On 2014-07-11 9:36 AM, Heenan, Lambert wrote:
> Totally free and totally cool...
> http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/

Yep, i used this to upgrade a laptop drive, it worked like a charm.

PB

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>
>
> Lambert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
> To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?
>
> Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Fri Jul 11 11:07:49 2014
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:07:49 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <53C00BD5.1050803@torchlake.com>

I really like Nitro Pro 9.  It is my default pdf viewer and editor.  I 
still have Adobe Reader, but seldom use it.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 7/8/2014 10:44 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?
>   
> Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway the
> constant updates are getting real annoying.
>   
> I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf viewer for
> a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
>   
> Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
> Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
>   
> TIA
>   
> Rocky
>   
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Jul 11 11:43:44 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:43:44 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
In-Reply-To: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
References: <da9c67af69c54dee87fbee3de28ed8b0@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <BD7627E6326B41DAB5A9C002C6D9D142@HAL9007>

So how does that work then, procedurally?  Mount the SSD as a slave, clone
the master to the slave, then swap them so the SSD is the boot drive?

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:37 AM
To: 'Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Totally free and totally cool...
http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/


Lambert
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Lonza Slough
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Hi all

I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my
laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't
really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I
move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking
anything?

Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make
a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software
should I use now?


Jon



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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Jul 11 11:46:58 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:46:58 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <53C00BD5.1050803@torchlake.com>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>
	<53C00BD5.1050803@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <7D6A045963304256BCC96DB231AD9BC4@HAL9007>

Well I had Nitro already so I made that the default pdf viewer.  I liked it
as well. The only difference I've seen so far is...no annoying updates from
Adobe!  Woo-Hoo!

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:08 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?

I really like Nitro Pro 9.  It is my default pdf viewer and editor.  I still
have Adobe Reader, but seldom use it.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 7/8/2014 10:44 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?
>   
> Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it.  Anyway 
> the constant updates are getting real annoying.
>   
> I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf 
> viewer for a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
>   
> Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat Reader?
> Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
>   
> TIA
>   
> Rocky
>   
> _______________________________________________
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul 11 15:56:11 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 06:56:11 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
In-Reply-To: <7D6A045963304256BCC96DB231AD9BC4@HAL9007>
References: <4361EBD85B9E4E97B29E01661F04DE5E@HAL9007>,
	<53C00BD5.1050803@torchlake.com>,
	<7D6A045963304256BCC96DB231AD9BC4@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <53C04F6B.3081.238855A8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Apart from the constant updates:  I don't know about Nitro, but Ido  know that Foxit opens in 
about 1/3 the time that Adobe Reader does.

-- 
Stuart

On 11 Jul 2014 at 9:46, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Well I had Nitro already so I made that the default pdf viewer.  I
> liked it as well. The only difference I've seen so far is...no
> annoying updates from Adobe!  Woo-Hoo!
> 
> R
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina
> Norris Fields Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:08 AM To: Discussion of
> Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Adios Adobe?
> 
> I really like Nitro Pro 9.  It is my default pdf viewer and editor.  I
> still have Adobe Reader, but seldom use it. TNF
> 
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
> 
> On 7/8/2014 10:44 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> > Adobe Acrobat has updates seems like 3x a week.  Why?
> >   
> > Well, never mind - if it's security problems, I don't want it. 
> > Anyway the constant updates are getting real annoying.
> >   
> > I have Nitro - seems to work well.  I'll make that my default pdf
> > viewer for a while and see if there's anything wrong wiht that.
> >   
> > Meantime, is there any reason why I should not uninstall Acrobat
> > Reader? Does anyone have a more preferred pdf viewer?
> >   
> > TIA
> >   
> > Rocky
> >   
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Jul 12 13:21:06 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:21:06 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Hard_drive_cloning?=
In-Reply-To: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
References: <da9c67af69c54dee87fbee3de28ed8b0@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <1405189266.413120850@f409.i.mail.ru>

 Lambert --

I have tried to setup for trial purposes the free version of EaseUS Partition Master?- even in custom setup mode it resulted in half of GB(!?) of something (I haven't find a way to capture what that traffic originated from, Fiddler somehow didn't show me where this traffic came from, and I haven't had any browsers running so that traffic was for sure "fired" by EaseUS setup: I have a GSM modem and I have traffic volume monitor on) getting downloaded during setup/post-setup, it also proposed to setup AVG Tune, I rejected but it anyway installed *not declared during setup settings phase* WinZip 18 as well as ?Todo Back Up and Tray Popup, the latter two seems to be part of the EaseUS Partition Master. I have got everything removed from my system. Hopefully I have cleared them all well. Be careful. BTW, EaseUS is from a Chinese company.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Friday, July 11, 2014 2:36 PM UTC from "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>:
>Totally free and totally cool...
>http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/
>
>
>Lambert
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
>Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
>To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
>
>Hi all
>
>I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?
>
>Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?
>
>
>Jon
>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 12 14:16:41 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:16:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] One for All
In-Reply-To: <1404980110.666998635@f320.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <859396081.29608522.1405192601513.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

This looks really good!

It looks like a great setup for a programmer's development box, with so many integrated features and apps available. I like that there is a full set of tutorials, sample applications and a complete IDE available...with everything setup ready to go.

(I have an old 32bit Server2003 box that definitely needs to be freshened with a new OS and a new purpose,)

Thanks for posting.
 
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:15:10 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] One for All

 Hi All,

FYI:? https://codio.com/s/docs/boxes/box-parts/ ?- look through "Complete List of Parts Supported" in the bottom of the page.


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 12 14:49:40 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:49:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux in your car
In-Reply-To: <53BC27E1.3020703@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <570937590.29619654.1405194580023.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Peter:

The new dash boards could be very interesting in the upcoming years...full engine analysts, online support, voice activated maps, memos, music list, reading books, remote controls for house and office, auto-parking, proximity sensors, built-in phones, any number of layouts...downloadable choices and eventually, hands-free driving and so many other options; right from the dashboard.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:18:25 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Linux in your car

On 2014-07-07 11:00 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Next year's car models may be sporting some very interesting dashboards...
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/pictures/photos-a-look-at-the-linux-os-that-wants-to-get-inside-your-car/1

Not-so-windows-centric coverage? ...

https://automotive.linuxfoundation.org/
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/72867.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/02/linux_turns_the_crank_on_code_for_cars/
http://www.zdnet.com/2014-the-year-of-the-linux-car-7000014091/

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From df.waters at outlook.com  Sat Jul 12 22:35:49 2014
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:35:49 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS297B4FA9204D8EC33564218F60B0@phx.gbl>

Partition Master might be a better choice!

Dan

Sent from my cell phone
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Sent: ?7/?12/?2014 13:21
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

 Lambert --

I have tried to setup for trial purposes the free version of EaseUS Partition Master - even in custom setup mode it resulted in half of GB(!?) of something (I haven't find a way to capture what that traffic originated from, Fiddler somehow didn't show me where this traffic came from, and I haven't had any browsers running so that traffic was for sure "fired" by EaseUS setup: I have a GSM modem and I have traffic volume monitor on) getting downloaded during setup/post-setup, it also proposed to setup AVG Tune, I rejected but it anyway installed *not declared during setup settings phase* WinZip 18 as well as  Todo Back Up and Tray Popup, the latter two seems to be part of the EaseUS Partition Master. I have got everything removed from my system. Hopefully I have cleared them all well. Be careful. BTW, EaseUS is from a Chinese company.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Friday, July 11, 2014 2:36 PM UTC from "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>:
>Totally free and totally cool...
>http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/
>
>
>Lambert
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
>Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
>To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
>
>Hi all
>
>I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?
>
>Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?
>
>
>Jon
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 13 02:34:21 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 01:34:21 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
In-Reply-To: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <1094530040.29788156.1405236861351.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Lambert:

Then there is the totally free partition manager called gparted and it also allows you, in addition, to resize dynamic volumes as required: http://gparted.org. It also runs on all platforms and can modify most (all) file systems.

If you wish to clone an Windows drive, I would suggest DriveXML: https://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm and for anything else including Windows there is Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org

Jim

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To: "Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:36:30 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Totally free and totally cool...
http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/


Lambert
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Hi all

I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?

Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?


Jon



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From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Mon Jul 14 08:47:33 2014
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:47:33 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
In-Reply-To: <1405189266.413120850@f409.i.mail.ru>
References: <da9c67af69c54dee87fbee3de28ed8b0@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
	<1405189266.413120850@f409.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA8024E4B@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>

Shamil,

Yikes! I've been using this for quite some time and never noticed any problem with it, but then I don't routinely monitor data usage as I'm not using a mobile connection. I'll have to delve further. Thank you for the alert.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:21 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

 Lambert --

I have tried to setup for trial purposes the free version of EaseUS Partition Master?- even in custom setup mode it resulted in half of GB(!?) of something (I haven't find a way to capture what that traffic originated from, Fiddler somehow didn't show me where this traffic came from, and I haven't had any browsers running so that traffic was for sure "fired" by EaseUS setup: I have a GSM modem and I have traffic volume monitor on) getting downloaded during setup/post-setup, it also proposed to setup AVG Tune, I rejected but it anyway installed *not declared during setup settings phase* WinZip 18 as well as ?Todo Back Up and Tray Popup, the latter two seems to be part of the EaseUS Partition Master. I have got everything removed from my system. Hopefully I have cleared them all well. Be careful. BTW, EaseUS is from a Chinese company.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Friday, July 11, 2014 2:36 PM UTC from "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>:
>Totally free and totally cool...
>http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/
>
>
>Lambert
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
>Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
>To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
>
>Hi all
>
>I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?
>
>Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?
>
>
>Jon
>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 16 11:03:38 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 10:03:38 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows is back
In-Reply-To: <1bb5ea894f294d0e8d6f35e905eb94b1@AM3PR06MB305.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1113011833.31932094.1405526618191.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

Well, it looks like classic Windows is back in Windows 9. For those who went all in on using the metro interface for their appliucations there is still time to make some changes:

http://www.maximumpc.com/purportedly_leaked_windows_9_screenshot_shows_new_start_menu978

Aside: It sure now looks like Linux distro to me? ;-)

Jim

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jul 16 11:23:19 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:23:19 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows is back
Message-ID: <c58f5947ff964fc9aeced46ac30c1f73@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

Where do you see the Linux part? It looks like a start menu expanded with Metro tiles.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 16. juli 2014 18:04
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows is back

Hi All:

Well, it looks like classic Windows is back in Windows 9. For those who went all in on using the metro interface for their appliucations there is still time to make some changes:

http://www.maximumpc.com/purportedly_leaked_windows_9_screenshot_shows_new_start_menu978

Aside: It sure now looks like Linux distro to me? ;-)

Jim 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 16 11:40:18 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 10:40:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows is back
In-Reply-To: <c58f5947ff964fc9aeced46ac30c1f73@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <794975461.31968906.1405528818589.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

It was a comment made in a video podcast, I was watching; acccording to one of the announcers, that is the case...I am not familiar with every Linux distro and modification but I have seen a Linux interfaces where you wouldn't know if it was an Apple or alternatively know whether you are looking at Windows 7 or XP...as the desktops are very flexible.

I will dig deeper and find it; assuming you are interested in getting into Linux. ;-)

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:23:19 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows is back

Hi Jim

Where do you see the Linux part? It looks like a start menu expanded with Metro tiles.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 16. juli 2014 18:04
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows is back

Hi All:

Well, it looks like classic Windows is back in Windows 9. For those who went all in on using the metro interface for their appliucations there is still time to make some changes:

http://www.maximumpc.com/purportedly_leaked_windows_9_screenshot_shows_new_start_menu978

Aside: It sure now looks like Linux distro to me? ;-)

Jim 

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Jul 16 12:03:45 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:03:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows is back
In-Reply-To: <c58f5947ff964fc9aeced46ac30c1f73@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <c58f5947ff964fc9aeced46ac30c1f73@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <031a01cfa117$e7bdd050$b73970f0$@winhaven.net>

LOL Everything looks like Linux to Jim ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:23 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows is back

Hi Jim

Where do you see the Linux part? It looks like a start menu expanded with
Metro tiles.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 16. juli 2014 18:04
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows is back

Hi All:

Well, it looks like classic Windows is back in Windows 9. For those who went
all in on using the metro interface for their appliucations there is still
time to make some changes:

http://www.maximumpc.com/purportedly_leaked_windows_9_screenshot_shows_new_s
tart_menu978

Aside: It sure now looks like Linux distro to me? ;-)

Jim 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 19 22:22:39 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:22:39 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <1bb5ea894f294d0e8d6f35e905eb94b1@AM3PR06MB305.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <2044519713.34320131.1405826559830.JavaMail.root@cds018>

With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:

http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045

...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)

Jim

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 19 22:34:46 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:34:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <2044519713.34320131.1405826559830.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <2044519713.34320131.1405826559830.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <53CB38D6.8030708@earthlink.net>

On 2014-07-19 10:22 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:

lol what a bad idea

PB

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>
> http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045
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> ...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 19 22:48:11 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:48:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <53CB38D6.8030708@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1405871847.34328714.1405828091416.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Peter:

A bad idea? Turning it on or turning it off? ;-)

Jim

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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:34:46 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux

On 2014-07-19 10:22 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:

lol what a bad idea

PB

-----

>
> http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045
>
> ...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 19 22:51:46 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:51:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <1405871847.34328714.1405828091416.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1405871847.34328714.1405828091416.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <53CB3CD2.80007@earthlink.net>

On 2014-07-19 10:48 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> A bad idea? Turning it on or turning it off? ;-)

lol turning it out, away, elsewhere

PB

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:34:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
>
> On 2014-07-19 10:22 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:
> lol what a bad idea
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045
>>
>> ...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)
>>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jul 20 07:02:49 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:02:49 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <53CB3CD2.80007@earthlink.net>
References: <1405871847.34328714.1405828091416.JavaMail.root@cds018>,
	<53CB3CD2.80007@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <53CBAFE9.7221.4FF92A1F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Metro on Linux is like putting big fluffy dice on the mirror and one of those dogs with a 
nodding heads on the rear tray  of a Lamborghini.

:)

On 19 Jul 2014 at 22:51, Peter Brawley wrote:

> On 2014-07-19 10:48 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> > Hi Peter:
> >
> > A bad idea? Turning it on or turning it off? ;-)
> 
> lol turning it out, away, elsewhere
> 
> PB
> 
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014
> > 8:34:46 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
> >
> > On 2014-07-19 10:22 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> >> With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:
> > lol what a bad idea
> >
> > PB
> >
> > -----
> >
> >> http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045
> >>
> >> ...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)
> >>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Jul 20 08:46:59 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 09:46:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hngrqFy9VcXHAg-ycu8M6+-2664e-vMosAwPuoo5XsPw@mail.gmail.com>

It's happened again! Some damned software called V9 has taken over my
browsers, both Firefox and Chrome. Anyone familiar with this morceau de
merde? Any idea how I can get rid of it forever?

-- 
Arthur

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 20 11:54:17 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:54:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hngrqFy9VcXHAg-ycu8M6+-2664e-vMosAwPuoo5XsPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hngrqFy9VcXHAg-ycu8M6+-2664e-vMosAwPuoo5XsPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53CBF439.9040606@earthlink.net>

On 2014-07-20 8:46 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> It's happened again! Some damned software called V9 has taken over my
> browsers, both Firefox and Chrome. Anyone familiar with this morceau de
> merde? Any idea how I can get rid of it forever?

I think it comes from (un)free download sites, google for methods of 
removal.

PB


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Jul 20 12:52:45 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:52:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9
In-Reply-To: <53CBF439.9040606@earthlink.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hngrqFy9VcXHAg-ycu8M6+-2664e-vMosAwPuoo5XsPw@mail.gmail.com>
	<53CBF439.9040606@earthlink.net>
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I've done that and am working my way through the links. It seems that v9
has made some advances since these links were written. This is one
pernicious little mofo. What I did for desktop computer was restore from a
restore point, and that worked. Fortunately My Documents is stored on an
external drive, so I didn't lose anything recent. Whew.

Hopefully the same thing will work on my Win8 laptop.

A.


On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Peter Brawley <peter.brawley at earthlink.net
> wrote:

> On 2014-07-20 8:46 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>> It's happened again! Some damned software called V9 has taken over my
>> browsers, both Firefox and Chrome. Anyone familiar with this morceau de
>> merde? Any idea how I can get rid of it forever?
>>
>
> I think it comes from (un)free download sites, google for methods of
> removal.
>
> PB
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jul 20 14:28:21 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:28:21 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <2044519713.34320131.1405826559830.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1bb5ea894f294d0e8d6f35e905eb94b1@AM3PR06MB305.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<2044519713.34320131.1405826559830.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <c2e7fd7f53cd4ff6b6d98b1bee75409b@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

It takes a lot more than a skin to build a Metro simulation.
And why bother when you can get the real stuff which works out of the box?

/gustav
________________________________
Fra: Jim Lawrence<mailto:accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: ?20-?07-?2014 05:23
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux

With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:

http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045

...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 20 14:52:25 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:52:25 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <c2e7fd7f53cd4ff6b6d98b1bee75409b@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1550491181.34611208.1405885945094.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

Well, interfaces are little more than skins or they should be. 

IMHO, people should just be able to pick the FE (presentation manager) they want and the underlying functionality should all remain the same and in place. If this methodology was followed by Microsoft there would have been a lot less issues with the adoption of Windows 8. The metro IDE would have slowly morphed into the common presentation manager and there would have been far less contraverse.  

...And of course whether Windows 8.x just works out of the box is a debatable subject. ;-)

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 12:28:21 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux

Hi Jim

It takes a lot more than a skin to build a Metro simulation.
And why bother when you can get the real stuff which works out of the box?

/gustav
________________________________
Fra: Jim Lawrence<mailto:accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: ?20-?07-?2014 05:23
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux

With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:

http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045

...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 20 14:59:29 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:59:29 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Quantum computers
In-Reply-To: <1550491181.34611208.1405885945094.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1045277293.34613424.1405886369125.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Over in Vancouver, the first Quantum computer is now for sale. 

It seems hardly ready for prime-time but there are already preorders from the usual suspects, the USA, Russia, Britain, China and even Israel, to name a few.

http://www.dwavesys.com

For a mire $5mil and you be setting one up in your basement. ;-)

PS: You may have to write your own software.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 20 15:05:53 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:05:53 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9
In-Reply-To: <53CBF439.9040606@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1493317812.34615571.1405886753584.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Peter:

Have you tried the usually "final solution" of going into the "options" and selecting "Restore defaults"?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:54:17 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] V9

On 2014-07-20 8:46 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> It's happened again! Some damned software called V9 has taken over my
> browsers, both Firefox and Chrome. Anyone familiar with this morceau de
> merde? Any idea how I can get rid of it forever?

I think it comes from (un)free download sites, google for methods of 
removal.

PB

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 20 15:08:09 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:08:09 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9
In-Reply-To: <53CBF439.9040606@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1396314070.34616309.1405886889868.JavaMail.root@cds018>

PS: Have you tried the following?

http://www.techsupportall.com/how-to-remove-v9-com-from-firefox-chrome-ie-adware-removal-help

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:54:17 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] V9

On 2014-07-20 8:46 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> It's happened again! Some damned software called V9 has taken over my
> browsers, both Firefox and Chrome. Anyone familiar with this morceau de
> merde? Any idea how I can get rid of it forever?

I think it comes from (un)free download sites, google for methods of 
removal.

PB

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jul 20 15:30:44 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:30:44 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <1550491181.34611208.1405885945094.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <c2e7fd7f53cd4ff6b6d98b1bee75409b@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<1550491181.34611208.1405885945094.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <42f64534ab1b4a4c9846fa66d07f0468@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

It certainly does. But it is like so many other things: if you don't want/wish it to work, it of course doesn't.

/gustav
________________________________
Fra: Jim Lawrence<mailto:accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: ?20-?07-?2014 21:52
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux

Hi Gustav:

Well, interfaces are little more than skins or they should be.

IMHO, people should just be able to pick the FE (presentation manager) they want and the underlying functionality should all remain the same and in place. If this methodology was followed by Microsoft there would have been a lot less issues with the adoption of Windows 8. The metro IDE would have slowly morphed into the common presentation manager and there would have been far less contraverse.

...And of course whether Windows 8.x just works out of the box is a debatable subject. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 12:28:21 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux

Hi Jim

It takes a lot more than a skin to build a Metro simulation.
And why bother when you can get the real stuff which works out of the box?

/gustav
________________________________
Fra: Jim Lawrence<mailto:accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: ?20-?07-?2014 05:23
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux

With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:

http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045

...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)

Jim
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Jul 20 17:28:59 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:28:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9
In-Reply-To: <1396314070.34616309.1405886889868.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <53CBF439.9040606@earthlink.net>
	<1396314070.34616309.1405886889868.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i0Vx3oSxPF+SxMfgYoeqBG_q6=amVcNoR3LQ_AdOonuA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm pleased to report that using a variety of tools, I'm finally back to
where I was. Thank God.


A.?

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 20 17:38:11 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:38:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
In-Reply-To: <53CBAFE9.7221.4FF92A1F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1683400154.34670136.1405895891705.JavaMail.root@cds018>

I laughed so hard...good one.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 5:02:49 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux

Metro on Linux is like putting big fluffy dice on the mirror and one of those dogs with a 
nodding heads on the rear tray  of a Lamborghini.

:)

On 19 Jul 2014 at 22:51, Peter Brawley wrote:

> On 2014-07-19 10:48 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> > Hi Peter:
> >
> > A bad idea? Turning it on or turning it off? ;-)
> 
> lol turning it out, away, elsewhere
> 
> PB
> 
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014
> > 8:34:46 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Metro for your Linux
> >
> > On 2014-07-19 10:22 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> >> With little effort anyone can have their own Metro skin:
> > lol what a bad idea
> >
> > PB
> >
> > -----
> >
> >> http://1inux.deviantart.com/art/Metro-Interface-for-Linux-342402045
> >>
> >> ...and then turn it off it not to your liking. ;-)
> >>
> >> Jim
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Jul 20 17:39:44 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:39:44 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on off-line
	mobile-capable apps
In-Reply-To: <CAOjQ1JxBOXVrXoCTH6b0-bc_AxwLO6mLemnE-wFqpQxJ1gJ1TQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iuiNhAUiN-ew8UnaTL-Y-W5yRBtMiDd9Z+3Nm+-G7xKw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOjQ1JxBOXVrXoCTH6b0-bc_AxwLO6mLemnE-wFqpQxJ1gJ1TQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iK2+K9esyEtfSDYSs6dm_MV6rGMqr-BhHV_fNAaUyHXA@mail.gmail.com>

There's a great essay by Dan Bricklin on the various issues facing the
developer moving into the world of mobile development.

http://bricklin.com/offline.htm

?Arthur

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Sun Jul 20 18:10:17 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:10:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hngrqFy9VcXHAg-ycu8M6+-2664e-vMosAwPuoo5XsPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hngrqFy9VcXHAg-ycu8M6+-2664e-vMosAwPuoo5XsPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028201cfa46f$c5c634a0$51529de0$@winhaven.net>

Hey Arthur,
I had someone bring me their infected computer a few weeks ago and besides
the dozen other things that had crept in avoiding Norton's "security" V9 was
also in there. 

It was an especially stubborn and repugnant little bugger!

Google V9 removal tool, download the tool, scan it with your AV (of course
there are fake ones out there that are infections themselves) and then use
it.

Good luck,
John
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:47 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9

It's happened again! Some damned software called V9 has taken over my
browsers, both Firefox and Chrome. Anyone familiar with this morceau de
merde? Any idea how I can get rid of it forever?

--
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 20 21:50:41 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:50:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] V9
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i0Vx3oSxPF+SxMfgYoeqBG_q6=amVcNoR3LQ_AdOonuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <938925687.34753799.1405911041471.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur:

Good to hear that. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 3:28:59 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] V9

I'm pleased to report that using a variety of tools, I'm finally back to
where I was. Thank God.


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 20 22:02:01 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:02:01 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on
	off-line	mobile-capable apps
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iK2+K9esyEtfSDYSs6dm_MV6rGMqr-BhHV_fNAaUyHXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1171703072.34756970.1405911721167.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur:

It is a delicate balancing act that developers have to follow. Once a new mobile device is out of range of those cell towers it usefulness is greatly reduced.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 3:39:44 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on off-line	mobile-capable apps

There's a great essay by Dan Bricklin on the various issues facing the
developer moving into the world of mobile development.

http://bricklin.com/offline.htm

?Arthur
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jul 20 22:41:53 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:41:53 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on off-line
	mobile-capable apps
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iK2+K9esyEtfSDYSs6dm_MV6rGMqr-BhHV_fNAaUyHXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iuiNhAUiN-ew8UnaTL-Y-W5yRBtMiDd9Z+3Nm+-G7xKw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAOjQ1JxBOXVrXoCTH6b0-bc_AxwLO6mLemnE-wFqpQxJ1gJ1TQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAEPJO1iK2+K9esyEtfSDYSs6dm_MV6rGMqr-BhHV_fNAaUyHXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53CC8C01.8593.5354BE26@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Good essay.

I'm facing this at the moment - rolling out a trial of tablet based electoral roll updating in the 
field.

-- 
Stuart

On 20 Jul 2014 at 18:39, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> There's a great essay by Dan Bricklin on the various issues facing the
> developer moving into the world of mobile development.
> 
> http://bricklin.com/offline.htm
> 
> Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 21 01:32:42 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:32:42 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on
	off-line	mobile-capable apps
In-Reply-To: <53CC8C01.8593.5354BE26@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <243220778.34813067.1405924362231.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Stuart:

Now that application sounds interesting. What did you finally decide to write it in?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:41:53 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on off-line	mobile-capable apps

Good essay.

I'm facing this at the moment - rolling out a trial of tablet based electoral roll updating in the 
field.

-- 
Stuart

On 20 Jul 2014 at 18:39, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> There's a great essay by Dan Bricklin on the various issues facing the
> developer moving into the world of mobile development.
> 
> http://bricklin.com/offline.htm
> 
> Arthur
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Jul 21 03:33:23 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:33:23 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on off-line
	mobile-capable apps
In-Reply-To: <243220778.34813067.1405924362231.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <53CC8C01.8593.5354BE26@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<243220778.34813067.1405924362231.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <53CCD053.3801.545F9E9A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

It's a mashup.

At  this stage using PowerBASIC  on a desktop to transfer data between the main Roll 
database and SQLite. The main roll is SQL Server, but we take Access snapshots and use 
them to build the SQLite databases so that we are working with locked rolls at points in time.  
That may well change since we are currently looking at a complete redesign and rebuild of 
the entire election management system.


Basic4Android on the tablets.

Looking at various options including laptops and MIFI devices in the field to consolidate 
groups of tablets  into a single database for subsequent updating of the master roll.  That is 
likely to be a combination of FTP and PowerBASIC. 


On 21 Jul 2014 at 0:32, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> Now that application sounds interesting. What did you finally decide
> to write it in?
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:41:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on
> off-line	mobile-capable apps
> 
> Good essay.
> 
> I'm facing this at the moment - rolling out a trial of tablet based
> electoral roll updating in the field.
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 20 Jul 2014 at 18:39, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> 
> > There's a great essay by Dan Bricklin on the various issues facing
> > the developer moving into the world of mobile development.
> > 
> > http://bricklin.com/offline.htm
> > 
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 21 14:34:00 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:34:00 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on
	off-line	mobile-capable apps
In-Reply-To: <53CCD053.3801.545F9E9A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <9171169.35232257.1405971240248.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Stuart:

It sounds impressive considering you are now creating all this functionality but have not strayed far from PowerBasic.

Here is a little app that might be useful to you. If you are not a big fan of coding in HTML there is a little app call Haroopad that allows you to code in simple markdown language. With it you can code in simple text, in a number of languages and it produces what you would see on its layed out web page window (you can also work in reverse; HTML (existing web pages) to markdown text). Text, code, built in functions, PDF translator, email and so on...and you can just cut and paste from virtual any text type file so it should be easy to just boiler-plate anything together. There is also a host of templates you can use. It is also very small and very fast. 

I have not used this program myself as I still prefer to code web pages directly but according to a strong recommendation I heard and a demo I saw, this is an excellent little application. Also it runs on all platforms and there is no cost involved.

http://pad.haroopress.com

Jim
 
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 1:33:23 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on off-line        mobile-capable apps

It's a mashup.

At  this stage using PowerBASIC  on a desktop to transfer data between the main Roll 
database and SQLite. The main roll is SQL Server, but we take Access snapshots and use 
them to build the SQLite databases so that we are working with locked rolls at points in time.  
That may well change since we are currently looking at a complete redesign and rebuild of 
the entire election management system.


Basic4Android on the tablets.

Looking at various options including laptops and MIFI devices in the field to consolidate 
groups of tablets  into a single database for subsequent updating of the master roll.  That is 
likely to be a combination of FTP and PowerBASIC. 


On 21 Jul 2014 at 0:32, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> Now that application sounds interesting. What did you finally decide
> to write it in?
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:41:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Fwd: Great essay by Dan Bricklin on
> off-line        mobile-capable apps
> 
> Good essay.
> 
> I'm facing this at the moment - rolling out a trial of tablet based
> electoral roll updating in the field.
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 20 Jul 2014 at 18:39, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> 
> > There's a great essay by Dan Bricklin on the various issues facing
> > the developer moving into the world of mobile development.
> > 
> > http://bricklin.com/offline.htm
> > 
> > Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 21 17:36:41 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:36:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OSS dropbox like application
In-Reply-To: <1401298764.785161493@f426.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <612349207.35363014.1405982201397.JavaMail.root@cds018>

This new application, Syncthing, is still in its development phase (it is still at the pre-version 1 phase) but it is fully operational.

According to its company description it is as follows:

"Syncthing replaces Dropbox and BitTorrent Sync with something open, trustworthy and decentralized. Your data is your data alone and you deserve to choose where it is stored, if it is shared with some third party and how it's transmitted over the Internet."

It also runs on all platforms, is fully secure, encrypted and has a host of features.

http://syncthing.net

Aside: I have been using BitTorrent Sync and it has been doing an excellent job of network backups but it is proprietary and not "average" user (Apple) friendly.

Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 04:04:56 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:04:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>

For those who might be interested, there is a 64-bit version of Firefox,
that is called Waterfox. It's identical to Firefox with the exception of
speed. Since virtually all computers are 64-bit these days, I suggest that
all Firefox users download Waterfox.

I guess that someday soon we'll see Earthfox and Airfox.

-- 
Arthur

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Jul 23 11:52:30 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:52:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028e01cfa696$7e9939f0$7bcbadd0$@winhaven.net>

Hi Arthur,
One of the issues with 64 bit browsers is a lack of 64 bit add-ons and
plugins. Do you know if there are any available for Waterfox? I'd love to
use a faster version of Firefox!
John B

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To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox

For those who might be interested, there is a 64-bit version of Firefox,
that is called Waterfox. It's identical to Firefox with the exception of
speed. Since virtually all computers are 64-bit these days, I suggest that
all Firefox users download Waterfox.

I guess that someday soon we'll see Earthfox and Airfox.

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 12:18:18 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:18:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
In-Reply-To: <028e01cfa696$7e9939f0$7bcbadd0$@winhaven.net>
References: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<028e01cfa696$7e9939f0$7bcbadd0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hKsMpKuCDwV2y_kzqhYYN1AEswEfKYXFYdY1cR_X7bQg@mail.gmail.com>

John,

I haven't looked into this, since I didn't use any add-ins in the 32-bit
version either. But I'll see what I can discover.

Arthur


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:52 PM, John Bartow <jbartow at winhaven.net> wrote:

> Hi Arthur,
> One of the issues with 64 bit browsers is a lack of 64 bit add-ons and
> plugins. Do you know if there are any available for Waterfox? I'd love to
> use a faster version of Firefox!
> John B
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 23 13:48:35 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:48:35 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Web starter kit
In-Reply-To: <1401298764.785161493@f426.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1894676588.36797092.1406141315848.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Google has added yet another webstarter kit (IDE) with a emphasis towards multiple sized screen realistate. It looks interesting:

http://googledevelopers.blogspot.ca/2014/06/web-fundamentals-and-web-starter-kit.html

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 23 13:56:11 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:56:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stats on OSS developement
In-Reply-To: <1401298764.785161493@f426.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <192038094.36822806.1406141771487.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

Most development programming work is now open source. Below are the stats to where all this work is being done:

    Silicon Valley - 24%
    Asia-Pacific - 14%
    Europe - 31%
    Rest of USA (somewhat even split between NYC/DC, Seattle, and Middle America) - 25%
    Brazil - 3%
    Canada - 3%

And languages of choice are as follows:

    JavaScript - 38%
    Ruby - 16%
    Python - 10%
    PHP - 8%
    C - 4%

The interesting points are that the diversity of development is spreading more evenly around the world and the language choices are curious but put into the context of internet, it is not that surprising.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 23 14:02:16 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:02:16 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The F# language
In-Reply-To: <1401298764.785161493@f426.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <801459696.36842309.1406142136530.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

I have always found the F# language very interesting. Its focus towards being distributive across multiple computers and platforms makes it a contender for a new age. I have not done much with it other than testing it in some existing samples but IMHO it has the potential to have a good future:

http://fsharp.github.io/2014/06/18/fsharp-contributions.html

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 23 14:15:14 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:15:14 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The latest GO release
In-Reply-To: <1401298764.785161493@f426.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <986070746.36863451.1406142914017.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

GO is one of the hottest languages around. I have done nothing with it other than some reading about it but it seems to make coding easier, more readable and the compiled code is very fast. There is also a Cloud and internet component to it. The latest release is GO 1.3.

http://blog.golang.org/go1.3

The program is very modular so you can just pick only the packages you need.  Here is a link to a blog of one of GO's fans:

http://blog.carlsensei.com/post/42828735125

Jim

From marklbreen at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 04:20:46 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:20:46 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Arthur,

>From the FF Site, I took this


*Mozilla does not release a 64-bit version of Firefox except for testing.
The "Nightly" release is intended only for testers and is not recommended
for day-to-day use. I guess not enough advantage has been demonstrated to
support a 64-bit release for regular use.*
What do the Waterfox guys know that FF does not ?
What would 64 bit give us, if we are only loading simple or even complex
pages,
IOW, how can we as browser users consume 64 bits in my browser?
Finally, how might 64 bits make it faster ?







On 23 July 2014 10:04, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> For those who might be interested, there is a 64-bit version of Firefox,
> that is called Waterfox. It's identical to Firefox with the exception of
> speed. Since virtually all computers are 64-bit these days, I suggest that
> all Firefox users download Waterfox.
>
> I guess that someday soon we'll see Earthfox and Airfox.
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 04:30:53 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 05:30:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gw4iCTFwD4reye63MHOzC_2OWhxqMHW=chRU+ZoLUaVw@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

First off, Waterfox *is* Firefox, same dev team etc. The only difference,
aside from the slightly different logo, is the 64-bit implementation.

I suspect that the bit you quoted is out of date, because it certainly
appears that Waterfox is now an official release.

My FF and now WF setup loads a half-dozen pages on startup, and there the
difference in load time is noticeable even to a human -- no need for
sub-second benchmarks here.

Regarding the name, it took me a while to "get" it. Perhaps soon we'll see
releases called Earthfox and Airfox.

A.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Arthur,
>
> From the FF Site, I took this
>
>
> *Mozilla does not release a 64-bit version of Firefox except for testing.
> The "Nightly" release is intended only for testers and is not recommended
> for day-to-day use. I guess not enough advantage has been demonstrated to
> support a 64-bit release for regular use.*
> What do the Waterfox guys know that FF does not ?
> What would 64 bit give us, if we are only loading simple or even complex
> pages,
> IOW, how can we as browser users consume 64 bits in my browser?
> Finally, how might 64 bits make it faster ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23 July 2014 10:04, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For those who might be interested, there is a 64-bit version of Firefox,
> > that is called Waterfox. It's identical to Firefox with the exception of
> > speed. Since virtually all computers are 64-bit these days, I suggest
> that
> > all Firefox users download Waterfox.
> >
> > I guess that someday soon we'll see Earthfox and Airfox.
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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-- 
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From hkotsch at arcor.de  Thu Jul 24 04:33:40 2014
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:33:40 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601cfa722$5acbdc30$10639490$@de>

How about "Cyberfox"

http://sourceforge.net/projects/cyberfox/

Cyberfox Web Browser

Features:
x64 Bit Web Browser (x86 Also available)
Powered By Mozilla source code.
Compiled with visual studios 2012.
Intel & Amd optimized versions available.
Uses windows 8 SDK.
Removed features (Telemetry, Health-report And other components that
collected information).
Added new features built in.
Uses its own profile system.

Compatible With Windows Vista x64, Windows 7 x64, Windows 8/8.x OS. (
Windows XP Unsupported ).

Helmut

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Breen
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2014 11:21
An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Waterfox

Hello Arthur,

>From the FF Site, I took this


*Mozilla does not release a 64-bit version of Firefox except for testing.
The "Nightly" release is intended only for testers and is not recommended
for day-to-day use. I guess not enough advantage has been demonstrated to
support a 64-bit release for regular use.* What do the Waterfox guys know
that FF does not ?
What would 64 bit give us, if we are only loading simple or even complex
pages, IOW, how can we as browser users consume 64 bits in my browser?
Finally, how might 64 bits make it faster ?







On 23 July 2014 10:04, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> For those who might be interested, there is a 64-bit version of 
> Firefox, that is called Waterfox. It's identical to Firefox with the 
> exception of speed. Since virtually all computers are 64-bit these 
> days, I suggest that all Firefox users download Waterfox.
>
> I guess that someday soon we'll see Earthfox and Airfox.
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Jul 24 04:48:51 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:48:51 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gw4iCTFwD4reye63MHOzC_2OWhxqMHW=chRU+ZoLUaVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAEPJO1gw4iCTFwD4reye63MHOzC_2OWhxqMHW=chRU+ZoLUaVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53D0D683.13205.6417CEC1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Arestandard FF extensions and add ons compatible with Waterfox?



On 24 Jul 2014 at 5:30, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> First off, Waterfox *is* Firefox, same dev team etc. The only
> difference, aside from the slightly different logo, is the 64-bit
> implementation.
> 
> I suspect that the bit you quoted is out of date, because it certainly
> appears that Waterfox is now an official release.
> 
> My FF and now WF setup loads a half-dozen pages on startup, and there
> the difference in load time is noticeable even to a human -- no need
> for sub-second benchmarks here.
> 
> Regarding the name, it took me a while to "get" it. Perhaps soon we'll
> see releases called Earthfox and Airfox.
> 
> A.
> 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 05:07:49 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:07:49 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
In-Reply-To: <53D0D683.13205.6417CEC1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1gw4iCTFwD4reye63MHOzC_2OWhxqMHW=chRU+ZoLUaVw@mail.gmail.com>
	<53D0D683.13205.6417CEC1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
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Stuart,

I don't know. I haven't tried any of them. Mind you, I also haven't tried
any extensions or add-ins in Firefox either.

I know next to nothing about extensions and add-ins, but was under the
(perhaps totally false) impression that the standard way to write these is
in Javascript. If that's the case, then I see no reason they wouldn't work.

Has anyone on this list written an extension or add-in? Where can I find
some information on how to write one? I have an idea for one that I really
wish already existed; then I wouldn't have to write it myself :)

Arthur


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> Arestandard FF extensions and add ons compatible with Waterfox?
>

From marklbreen at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 07:24:33 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:24:33 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
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	<CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1gw4iCTFwD4reye63MHOzC_2OWhxqMHW=chRU+ZoLUaVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCjU5F+NPpc1ZrudHfOBfa7t_6iqJ0Ppk81AnaBv4uvnAg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Arthur

thanks for the reply,

on this <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/>page, I see 64 Bit
linux which I will install tonight on my Ubuntu machines, but I do not see
a Windows Version.

I see loads of links to other sites for 64 Bit firefox but did not find one
yet on the main mozilla site.

Can the 64 bit aspect really make a difference to loading 6 pages?  Unless
it is doing parallel processing I can hardly see  how it would make a
significant difference given the comparatively glacially slow broadband
speeds vs processor speeds.

Sorry to say, I am politely doubting the performance benefits.




On 24 July 2014 10:30, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> First off, Waterfox *is* Firefox, same dev team etc. The only difference,
> aside from the slightly different logo, is the 64-bit implementation.
>
> I suspect that the bit you quoted is out of date, because it certainly
> appears that Waterfox is now an official release.
>
> My FF and now WF setup loads a half-dozen pages on startup, and there the
> difference in load time is noticeable even to a human -- no need for
> sub-second benchmarks here.
>
> Regarding the name, it took me a while to "get" it. Perhaps soon we'll see
> releases called Earthfox and Airfox.
>
> A.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Arthur,
> >
> > From the FF Site, I took this
> >
> >
> > *Mozilla does not release a 64-bit version of Firefox except for testing.
> > The "Nightly" release is intended only for testers and is not recommended
> > for day-to-day use. I guess not enough advantage has been demonstrated to
> > support a 64-bit release for regular use.*
> > What do the Waterfox guys know that FF does not ?
> > What would 64 bit give us, if we are only loading simple or even complex
> > pages,
> > IOW, how can we as browser users consume 64 bits in my browser?
> > Finally, how might 64 bits make it faster ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23 July 2014 10:04, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For those who might be interested, there is a 64-bit version of
> Firefox,
> > > that is called Waterfox. It's identical to Firefox with the exception
> of
> > > speed. Since virtually all computers are 64-bit these days, I suggest
> > that
> > > all Firefox users download Waterfox.
> > >
> > > I guess that someday soon we'll see Earthfox and Airfox.
> > >
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 16:02:37 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:02:37 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waterfox
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCjU5F+NPpc1ZrudHfOBfa7t_6iqJ0Ppk81AnaBv4uvnAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1ikSA1=XHNznR5d9k1odu6D4E4pWpJdCuso+tGOda77+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGXtTCiTsR1OYCgKJJS5ix1YCEccETMj+qA_9KhSJCUUUcMofA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1gw4iCTFwD4reye63MHOzC_2OWhxqMHW=chRU+ZoLUaVw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGXtTCjU5F+NPpc1ZrudHfOBfa7t_6iqJ0Ppk81AnaBv4uvnAg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1ihW4MrZzXkwRGJKZEXUJFDpJCMFjViOY1ymuco5LKCvw@mail.gmail.com>

For the Windows version, just Google "Download Waterfox". That should get
you there.

You motivate me to do some more systematic comparisons to see what if
anything 64-bit gains me.

Arthur


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> thanks for the reply,
>
> on this <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/>page, I see 64 Bit
> linux which I will install tonight on my Ubuntu machines, but I do not see
> a Windows Version.
>
> I see loads of links to other sites for 64 Bit firefox but did not find one
> yet on the main mozilla site.
>
> Can the 64 bit aspect really make a difference to loading 6 pages?  Unless
> it is doing parallel processing I can hardly see  how it would make a
> significant difference given the comparatively glacially slow broadband
> speeds vs processor speeds.
>
> Sorry to say, I am politely doubting the performance benefits.
>

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 09:06:42 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:06:42 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] High-Volume R/O database
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jk-9A2seT1Bgh4BdP1uoqHZOTqakD6LBN2RmYDUYtu3g@mail.gmail.com>

Suppose I'm interested in creating and maintaining a high-volume read-only
database into which several million rows will be inserted 5 days per week,
spread over 24 hours a day. Basically all the rows will go into a single
table; every now and then a row will go into a related table, but that is
unlikely to occur even once a day, more like once a month. The data of
maximal interest is today's data, but sometimes I will need to look at
yesterday's, and on occasion further back (this week, this month, this
year, etc.); these interrogations are increasingly rare in proportion with
the timespan from today back into time.

I'm thinking about how best to design this. One thought is to flush the
table once per day at midnight, moving today's rows into a permanent
history table, truncating the table and starting fresh each morning. The
History table would be designed on an OLAP model. On those relatively rare
occasions when I need to compare today with the week or month or year, I
can join today to the OLAP table(s) to get my temporal dimensions as
quickly as possible.

Can you spot any holes in this thought? Or think of a better way to handle
this enormous input?

I have no immediate customer for this. Truth is, it's motivated out of pure
interest. I've just finished reading Michael Lewis's book *Flash Boys*,
which is a terrific read and highly recommended. Basically, it's about how
the stock market is rigged in favour of HFTs (high frequency traders) and
against the average stockholder. Back to the problem: each row inserted
would be an order to buy or sell a number of shares in a given stock.
Comparisons would almost always be on similar rows (same stock), and most
often attempt to match buys with corresponding sells. That's
oversimplifying, but the gist is there.

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Jul 28 17:57:48 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:57:48 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] STOP REARRANGING MY ICONS!  (dammit)
Message-ID: <7A87B41E7A7944CEA353AE9D5259BDFE@HAL9007>

It's a new Windows 8.1 system for Pundit.  I've got the icons where I want
them.  I've unchecked Auto Arrange.  AND YET....!!
 
It still rearranges the icons from time to time - especially on a cold
reboot.
 
Does it on my W8 laptop as well.
 
This is on the W7 desktop view - not the W8 desktop.
 
I know there has to be answer to this maddening problem but I couldn't find
anything on the web except that it drives everbody crazy and the advice
about unchecking auto-arrange is always followed to no avail.
 
Help keep me off the benzos...tell me the secret.
 
MTIA
 
Rocky
 
 
 

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Jul 29 01:42:02 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:42:02 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Free/inexpensive_worldwide_SMS_Messaging_API?=
Message-ID: <1406616122.873499007@f276.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:?http://www.twilio.com/sms/api

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Jul 29 02:27:13 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:27:13 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] STOP REARRANGING MY ICONS!  (dammit)
In-Reply-To: <7A87B41E7A7944CEA353AE9D5259BDFE@HAL9007>
References: <7A87B41E7A7944CEA353AE9D5259BDFE@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <98b6ef0d541941fbaa8e7320c57d1b74@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

I've given up rearranging mine. I had them all separated out into blocks of related things, but every time I turn it on, they're all lined up down the left hand side again. *sigh*


Jon

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:58 PM
To: 'Off Topic'; List
Subject: [dba-Tech] STOP REARRANGING MY ICONS! (dammit)

It's a new Windows 8.1 system for Pundit.  I've got the icons where I want them.  I've unchecked Auto Arrange.  AND YET....!!

It still rearranges the icons from time to time - especially on a cold reboot.

Does it on my W8 laptop as well.

This is on the W7 desktop view - not the W8 desktop.

I know there has to be answer to this maddening problem but I couldn't find anything on the web except that it drives everbody crazy and the advice about unchecking auto-arrange is always followed to no avail.

Help keep me off the benzos...tell me the secret.

MTIA

Rocky



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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Jul 29 02:34:27 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:34:27 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
In-Reply-To: <1094530040.29788156.1405236861351.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA80245A8@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
	<1094530040.29788156.1405236861351.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <c7ee908d43b54f298a2a910459b7b3b9@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

I went with Backupper from Aomei eventually (http://www.backup-utility.com/download.html). It cloned the drive for me, resized the partitions (I went from a 1tb 5400rpm HDD to a 256gb Crucial M550 SSD), and copied everything across. Only took about an hour all told.

The hard part was getting the laptop to recognise the new drive, but eventually I found a web page with the following useful information:

Boot windows 8 CD, select language, and on the screen where says "Install now", select "Repair my computer" at the bottom left corner. Open "Troubleshoot", and "Advanced options". In advanced options menu select "Command prompt", and there type:
BOOTREC /FIXBOOT
BOOTREC /FIXMBR
BOOTREC /REBUILDBCD
One of those should work.

And one of them did. I don't know which one, or what each command does, but I was able to boot from the new drive when I plugged it in next.

The performance gain is incredible.

The laptop (1 year old HP Pavilion G7, i5, 6gb RAM) went from taking 4 minutes 31 seconds from pressing the power button to Vipre loading up to 31 seconds. It shuts down in 3 seconds now, instead of the former 1 minute plus.

I ran a MalwareBytes scan which took 6 minutes 47 (was previously over an hour), and a deep Vipre Scan which took 26:07 (previously over 2 hours).

I can't recommend upgrading your old HDD to an SSD enough!


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:34 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Hi Lambert:

Then there is the totally free partition manager called gparted and it also allows you, in addition, to resize dynamic volumes as required: http://gparted.org. It also runs on all platforms and can modify most (all) file systems.

If you wish to clone an Windows drive, I would suggest DriveXML: https://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm and for anything else including Windows there is Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lambert Heenan" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
To: "Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:36:30 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Totally free and totally cool...
http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/


Lambert
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Hi all

I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?

Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?


Jon



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jul 29 03:16:06 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:16:06 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
Message-ID: <7ab23de1f69d4fa28eff30c96600b479@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

Skype (the client) supports "chats". I haven't used it so don't know if that is equivalent to SMS:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/EN-US/library/office/dn745882(v=office.15).aspx

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 29. juli 2014 08:42
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API

 Hi All --

Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:?http://www.twilio.com/sms/api

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ?????? 


From marklbreen at gmail.com  Tue Jul 29 05:31:41 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:31:41 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
In-Reply-To: <1406616122.873499007@f276.i.mail.ru>
References: <1406616122.873499007@f276.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCjA_0E8NbgjDULkRm+P1eba3zNxWnB6AiN+diPQPfsLeA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Shamil

just curious, did you look at https://www.clickatell.com/  If so, why did
you not select them ?




On 29 July 2014 07:42, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Hi All --
>
> Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your
> customers applications you can recommend?
> I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a
> few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:
> http://www.twilio.com/sms/api
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> ???????????? ??????
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Jul 29 13:57:50 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:57:50 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Free/inexpensive_worldwide_SMS_Messaging_API?=
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCjA_0E8NbgjDULkRm+P1eba3zNxWnB6AiN+diPQPfsLeA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1406616122.873499007@f276.i.mail.ru>
	<CAGXtTCjA_0E8NbgjDULkRm+P1eba3zNxWnB6AiN+diPQPfsLeA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1406660270.745361246@f208.i.mail.ru>

 Hello Mark --

Yes, I have read about clickatell.com in the past but I have forgotten about it :)
And TWILIO seems to be a very active startup I have read about a few times on TechCrunch 

http://techcrunch.com/tag/twilio/

Also TWILIO seems to be a bit less expensive, at least for messaging within Russia.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:31:41 +0100 from Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com>:
>Hello Shamil
>
>just curious, did you look at  https://www.clickatell.com/ If so, why did
>you not select them ?
>
>
>
>
>On 29 July 2014 07:42, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>
>>  Hi All --
>>
>> Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your
>> customers applications you can recommend?
>> I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a
>> few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:
>>  http://www.twilio.com/sms/api
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> ???????????? ??????
>> _______________________________________________
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>>  dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Jul 29 14:01:14 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:01:14 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Free/inexpensive_worldwide_SMS_Messaging_API?=
In-Reply-To: <7ab23de1f69d4fa28eff30c96600b479@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <7ab23de1f69d4fa28eff30c96600b479@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1406660474.78777494@f208.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for your note/link on Skype Chat.

I will probably try TWILIO as I need to just send ordinary SMS messages.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:16:06 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>Skype (the client) supports "chats". I haven't used it so don't know if that is equivalent to SMS:
>
>???? http://msdn.microsoft.com/EN-US/library/office/dn745882 (v=office.15).aspx
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 29. juli 2014 08:42
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
>I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:?http://www.twilio.com/sms/api
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ?????? 
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jul 29 16:57:17 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:57:17 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
In-Reply-To: <1406660474.78777494@f208.i.mail.ru>
References: <7ab23de1f69d4fa28eff30c96600b479@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<1406660474.78777494@f208.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1406671036956.16064@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

As far as I know, a "chat" sent from Skype to an ordinary phone number is nothing but an SMS (a "text message" in the US).

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 29. juli 2014 21:01
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for your note/link on Skype Chat.

I will probably try TWILIO as I need to just send ordinary SMS messages.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:16:06 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>Skype (the client) supports "chats". I haven't used it so don't know if that is equivalent to SMS:
>
>???? http://msdn.microsoft.com/EN-US/library/office/dn745882 (v=office.15).aspx
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 29. juli 2014 08:42
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
>I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO: http://www.twilio.com/sms/api
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>???????????? ??????


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 30 13:45:50 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:45:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
In-Reply-To: <1406616122.873499007@f276.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1717658414.41408572.1406745950728.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

I do not know of any specific product but it does seem that your suggestion is a good one. All the needed components are nicely bundled through the link you have provided. Now the pricing may be prohibitive as just getting a completed solution may be expensive.

If you want to roll your own system you will have to be ready for a lot more work. I understand the Skype API supports SMS messaging and if Skype is installed, it can be used to support other applications running on the same computer. Below is one link I found on how to use the Skype4Py API:

http://blogs.igalia.com/eocanha/2008/05/29/how-to-send-sms-in-linux-using-skype

Good luck
Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:42:02 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API

 Hi All --

Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:?http://www.twilio.com/sms/api

Thank you.

-- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 30 13:49:46 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:49:46 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning
In-Reply-To: <c7ee908d43b54f298a2a910459b7b3b9@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <619326054.41410762.1406746186931.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Jon:

This is great. Thanks so much for posting and I will be testing it later this evening...on Linux of course. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough" <jon.tydda at lonza.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:34:27 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

I went with Backupper from Aomei eventually (http://www.backup-utility.com/download.html). It cloned the drive for me, resized the partitions (I went from a 1tb 5400rpm HDD to a 256gb Crucial M550 SSD), and copied everything across. Only took about an hour all told.

The hard part was getting the laptop to recognise the new drive, but eventually I found a web page with the following useful information:

Boot windows 8 CD, select language, and on the screen where says "Install now", select "Repair my computer" at the bottom left corner. Open "Troubleshoot", and "Advanced options". In advanced options menu select "Command prompt", and there type:
BOOTREC /FIXBOOT
BOOTREC /FIXMBR
BOOTREC /REBUILDBCD
One of those should work.

And one of them did. I don't know which one, or what each command does, but I was able to boot from the new drive when I plugged it in next.

The performance gain is incredible.

The laptop (1 year old HP Pavilion G7, i5, 6gb RAM) went from taking 4 minutes 31 seconds from pressing the power button to Vipre loading up to 31 seconds. It shuts down in 3 seconds now, instead of the former 1 minute plus.

I ran a MalwareBytes scan which took 6 minutes 47 (was previously over an hour), and a deep Vipre Scan which took 26:07 (previously over 2 hours).

I can't recommend upgrading your old HDD to an SSD enough!


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:34 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Hi Lambert:

Then there is the totally free partition manager called gparted and it also allows you, in addition, to resize dynamic volumes as required: http://gparted.org. It also runs on all platforms and can modify most (all) file systems.

If you wish to clone an Windows drive, I would suggest DriveXML: https://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm and for anything else including Windows there is Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org

Jim

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From: "Lambert Heenan" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
To: "Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:36:30 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Totally free and totally cool...
http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/


Lambert
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:36 AM
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard drive cloning

Hi all

I'm thinking of replacing the very slow (5400rpm) 1tb hard drive in my laptop with a much faster SSD, sacrificing some storage space (that I don't really use anyway). I can do the mechanical part no problem, but how do I move the Windows 8.1 installation from one drive to another without breaking anything?

Last time I did this was about 7 years ago, and I used Norton Ghost to make a backup to another hard drive, which I then swapped out. What software should I use now?


Jon



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 30 13:51:21 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:51:21 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
In-Reply-To: <7ab23de1f69d4fa28eff30c96600b479@AMSPR06MB357.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <629041816.41411860.1406746281107.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

And further to your post, the Skype API works on all platforms and under all OSs.

Jim

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From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:16:06 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API

Hi Shamil

Skype (the client) supports "chats". I haven't used it so don't know if that is equivalent to SMS:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/EN-US/library/office/dn745882(v=office.15).aspx

/gustav

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Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 29. juli 2014 08:42
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API

 Hi All --

Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:?http://www.twilio.com/sms/api

Thank you.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 30 14:01:37 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:01:37 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCjA_0E8NbgjDULkRm+P1eba3zNxWnB6AiN+diPQPfsLeA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <821951926.41417865.1406746897838.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Mark:

Never heard of this application before but it looks like an excellent product. Have you used it?

Jim 

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:31:41 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API

Hello Shamil

just curious, did you look at https://www.clickatell.com/  If so, why did
you not select them ?




On 29 July 2014 07:42, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Hi All --
>
> Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your
> customers applications you can recommend?
> I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a
> few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:
> http://www.twilio.com/sms/api
>
> Thank you.
>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Jul 31 11:38:46 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:38:46 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Free/inexpensive_worldwide_SMS_Messaging_API?=
In-Reply-To: <1717658414.41408572.1406745950728.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1406616122.873499007@f276.i.mail.ru>
	<1717658414.41408572.1406745950728.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1406824726.307315759@f354.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim and Gustav --

$0.01 per SMS message doesn't look as a prohibitive pricing in my case as there wouldn't be a lot of SMS messages sent.

Skype is not installed by default - SMS messaging client for my customer could be an ASP.NET Web API web service.

Also, who pays for Skype-based SMS messaging? ?- I assume that Skype-based SMS messages will be paid by the receiving party - correct?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:45:50 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I do not know of any specific product but it does seem that your suggestion is a good one. All the needed components are nicely bundled through the link you have provided. Now the pricing may be prohibitive as just getting a completed solution may be expensive.
>
>If you want to roll your own system you will have to be ready for a lot more work. I understand the Skype API supports SMS messaging and if Skype is installed, it can be used to support other applications running on the same computer. Below is one link I found on how to use the Skype4Py API:
>
>http://blogs.igalia.com/eocanha/2008/05/29/how-to-send-sms-in-linux-using-skype
>
>Good luck
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:42:02 PM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
>I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:?http://www.twilio.com/sms/api
>
>Thank you.
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 31 15:38:56 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:38:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
In-Reply-To: <1406824726.307315759@f354.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <812667571.42239124.1406839136005.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

>From what I know, but that understanding could need correcting, Skype SMS is free...but its implementation is more complex and needs third party software to run. The link you provided to the full package deal (twilio) may be more cost effective; definitely in the short term. Just a comment; which might be unrelated: In this day and age, I would be hesitant about implementing any solution that is platform dependent.

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:38:46 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API

 Hi Jim and Gustav --

$0.01 per SMS message doesn't look as a prohibitive pricing in my case as there wouldn't be a lot of SMS messages sent.

Skype is not installed by default - SMS messaging client for my customer could be an ASP.NET Web API web service.

Also, who pays for Skype-based SMS messaging? ?- I assume that Skype-based SMS messages will be paid by the receiving party - correct?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:45:50 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I do not know of any specific product but it does seem that your suggestion is a good one. All the needed components are nicely bundled through the link you have provided. Now the pricing may be prohibitive as just getting a completed solution may be expensive.
>
>If you want to roll your own system you will have to be ready for a lot more work. I understand the Skype API supports SMS messaging and if Skype is installed, it can be used to support other applications running on the same computer. Below is one link I found on how to use the Skype4Py API:
>
>http://blogs.igalia.com/eocanha/2008/05/29/how-to-send-sms-in-linux-using-skype
>
>Good luck
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:42:02 PM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
>I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO:?http://www.twilio.com/sms/api
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jul 31 16:14:26 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:14:26 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
In-Reply-To: <1406824726.307315759@f354.i.mail.ru>
References: <1406616122.873499007@f276.i.mail.ru>
	<1717658414.41408572.1406745950728.JavaMail.root@cds018>,
	<1406824726.307315759@f354.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1406841265550.88524@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

>From what I know, "chats"/text/SMS are free when sent to other Skype accounts.

You will need a prepaid subscription for calling/texting to legacy phone numbers. Each call and SMS is subtracted from your account. Fees vary between destinations.

The rates are pretty low as I recall.

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 31. juli 2014 18:38
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API

 Hi Jim and Gustav --

$0.01 per SMS message doesn't look as a prohibitive pricing in my case as there wouldn't be a lot of SMS messages sent.

Skype is not installed by default - SMS messaging client for my customer could be an ASP.NET Web API web service.

Also, who pays for Skype-based SMS messaging?  - I assume that Skype-based SMS messages will be paid by the receiving party - correct?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:45:50 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I do not know of any specific product but it does seem that your suggestion is a good one. All the needed components are nicely bundled through the link you have provided. Now the pricing may be prohibitive as just getting a completed solution may be expensive.
>
>If you want to roll your own system you will have to be ready for a lot more work. I understand the Skype API supports SMS messaging and if Skype is installed, it can be used to support other applications running on the same computer. Below is one link I found on how to use the Skype4Py API:
>
>http://blogs.igalia.com/eocanha/2008/05/29/how-to-send-sms-in-linux-using-skype
>
>Good luck
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:42:02 PM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Free/inexpensive worldwide SMS Messaging API
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Do you use any free/inexpensive worldwide SMS messaging API in your customers applications you can recommend?
>I have to test SMS messaging API for my customer application by sending a few SMS messages and I'm currently planning to try TWILIO: http://www.twilio.com/sms/api
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>???????????? ??????