From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu May  1 01:21:40 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 06:21:40 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] friends don't let friends use ie
Message-ID: <c8c3bf2a3bcc45b7800f22fb227a01fe@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

No, it is a DNS blocker only. This means that if you visit a page with a banner add from a malicious site, this banner will be replaced with a blue square with a white cross. But otherwise harmless tracking URLs will be allowed. To stop these, use the In-Private setting of your browser and/or use a local proxy like:

    http://www.privoxy.org/

which filters most advertising URLs. I have tested this for some months now, and it seems to work well. The only issue I've seen is, that sometimes it blocks a URL just because it contains "ad". However, it tells you this and offers you to load it anyway.

/gustav

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Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 1. maj 2014 02:55
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] friends don't let friends use ie

Hi Gustav:

If you could guarantee unanimity of anonymous surfing and absolute identity privacy...being as you are a CSIS dealer, I would be very interested.

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 3:54:21 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] friends don't let friends use ie

Hi Mark

Yes, and at the same time Google's recordings of your doings will cease (if you don't use Chrome or Gmail, of course).

/gustav

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Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Mark Breen
Sendt: 30. april 2014 12:00
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] friends don't let friends use ie

Hi Gustav

so in a house, or in a small company, is the means of using SecureDNS to set the external DNS lookup to a special IP address, IOW, in my house I would put my router to point to secureDNS server instead of 8.8.8.8 and that it, the whole house is protected ?

If it was like that, it looks good??




On 30 April 2014 09:56, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> Yes, even with the "corporate" label, these services are priced fair.
> Secure DNS is about USD 30 per user per year.
> In practice, it is "all or none" as you normally will include all 
> users in a department or - for a small business - the whole shop.
> Of course, you can manually adjust network settings of individual 
> machines but then you miss the overall security.
>
> We use it here, and it has brought relief indeed to the ladies as 
> these previously were scared to death by all the stories in the press 
> about hijacked keyboards and stolen passwords. You can tell from here 
> to eternity that everything is safe (antivirus is installed on 
> workstations, and these users really behave when browsing, so risk is
> minimal) but they want documentation and that is the bright accessory in the SecureDNS package.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Mark Breen
> Sendt: 30. april 2014 10:20
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] friends don't let friends use ie
>
> Hello Gustav
>
> I looked at secureDNS last time you post it, and I think I did see 
> pricing, but I cannot today
>
> is there publicly quoted prices ?  Or if not, is there approximate pricing ?
>
> thank you
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On 30 April 2014 08:55, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi Peter
> >
> > Indeed. Use SecureDNS:
> >
> > http://www.csis.dk/en/business/securedns/
> >
> > It blocks access to malicious domains. Extremely effective and quite 
> > cheap. Your accounting clients will love it.
> > Also, it is a very powerful tool if your are audited as it logs and 
> > documents all outgoing activity where DNS requests take place.
> > See this example:
> >
> >     http://1drv.ms/QYzhna
> >
> > Disclaimer: We are a dealer for CSIS.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Peter Brawley
> > Sendt: 29. april 2014 22:22
> > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > Emne: [dba-Tech] friends don't let friends use ie
> >
> >
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/27/oops_we_did_it_again_microsoft_warns_of_ie_zero_day/
> > ?
> >
> > Apparently the safest rule is to never browse the internet with any 
> > version of Internet Explorer. If you need to download sonmething 
> > from a Microsoft site, or if you need an IE-requiring functionality 
> > on another site you trust, navigate there with FF or Chrome or 
> > Safari, copy the url to IE, do you business, then close IE right away.
> >
> > Any exceptions?
> >
> > PB 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May  6 16:40:10 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 15:40:10 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <1481165049.36333091.1398884401991.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1835156323.40875039.1399412410820.JavaMail.root@cds018>

It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two more days.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9c75919d?page=100

Jim

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue May  6 17:31:19 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 15:31:19 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <1835156323.40875039.1399412410820.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1481165049.36333091.1398884401991.JavaMail.root@cds018>
	<1835156323.40875039.1399412410820.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007>

Or what?

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
more days.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
c75919d?page=100

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed May  7 04:24:34 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <135782367.41170272.1399454674934.JavaMail.root@cds018>

I have no idea?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

Or what?

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
more days.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
c75919d?page=100

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed May  7 08:35:46 2014
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:35:46 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW:  SQL Cluster
Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB08295A1353B6D07@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>


See below from one of my colleagues. Anyone have any comments/advise/ideas?

Was bounced when I included the screen shots.

Cross Posted to DBA Tech list.

Martin




We still have a large amount of memory being used as "Nonpaged Pool" on sp-sql-d3 and sp-sql-d2, but not sp-sql-d1.
I have investigated based on the following blog:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ntdebugging/archive/2012/08/30/troubleshooting-pool-leaks-part-2-poolmon.aspx


It looks like there may be an issue with the Windows Volume Shadow Copy Driver "volsnap.sys".
Where to go from here, I'm not sure - but this may be an avenue worth exploring.

The good news - SharePoint appears to be performing normally.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed May  7 12:32:59 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 11:32:59 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <1481165049.36333091.1398884401991.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <370762760.41513967.1399483979949.JavaMail.root@cds018>

To call Atom just a text editor is a little simplistic. 

The editor is fully web based, in other ward it runs from your browser, it is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and supports all the the Node.js libraries. It is fully OSS so if there is a feature that is not fully supported a bold developer can add it. The editor and features can be reviews and even downloaded at the following site:

https://atom.io

Unfortunately, at the moment, there is only a Mac version but according to the release notes Windows and Linux versions are soon to follow.

Jim  

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed May  7 13:25:30 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 13:25:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <370762760.41513967.1399483979949.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1481165049.36333091.1398884401991.JavaMail.root@cds018>
	<370762760.41513967.1399483979949.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <021601cf6a21$ba6c04a0$2f440de0$@winhaven.net>

I don't understand how something can be "fully web based" and yet only works
on one OS. I thought web based meant it runs on the world wide web and works
with anything. Or do you mean browser based?

Please explain.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:33 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor

To call Atom just a text editor is a little simplistic. 

The editor is fully web based, in other ward it runs from your browser, it
is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and supports all the the Node.js libraries. It
is fully OSS so if there is a feature that is not fully supported a bold
developer can add it. The editor and features can be reviews and even
downloaded at the following site:

https://atom.io

Unfortunately, at the moment, there is only a Mac version but according to
the release notes Windows and Linux versions are soon to follow.

Jim  
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed May  7 17:49:49 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 08:49:49 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <021601cf6a21$ba6c04a0$2f440de0$@winhaven.net>
References: <1481165049.36333091.1398884401991.JavaMail.root@cds018>,
	<370762760.41513967.1399483979949.JavaMail.root@cds018>,
	<021601cf6a21$ba6c04a0$2f440de0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <536AB88D.29824.1A5023B0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

My first thought was  why on earth would you want a web based text editor? 

But it turns out that it is just another desktop text editor.  It doesn't "run from your browser" 
and isn't written in HTML/CSS.    

The core is based on Google's Chromium  browser source - which in the Windows 
environment requires VS2013 to build so looks like it uses .Net  

It allows you to build extensions  using HTML/CSS and javascript, so in a way it uses "web 
related technologies"

But it is not web based at all.

-- 
Stuart

On 7 May 2014 at 13:25, John Bartow wrote:

> I don't understand how something can be "fully web based" and yet only
> works on one OS. I thought web based meant it runs on the world wide
> web and works with anything. Or do you mean browser based?
> 
> Please explain.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:33 PM To: Discussion of
> Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editorAnd why would anyone wa
> 
> To call Atom just a text editor is a little simplistic. 
> 
> The editor is fully web based, in other ward it runs from your
> browser, it is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and supports all the the
> Node.js libraries. It is fully OSS so if there is a feature that is
> not fully supported a bold developer can add it. The editor and
> features can be reviews and even downloaded at the following site:
> 
> https://atom.io
> 
> Unfortunately, at the moment, there is only a Mac version but
> according to the release notes Windows and Linux versions are soon to
> follow.


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed May  7 18:40:19 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 18:40:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <536AB88D.29824.1A5023B0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <1481165049.36333091.1398884401991.JavaMail.root@cds018>,
	<370762760.41513967.1399483979949.JavaMail.root@cds018>,
	<021601cf6a21$ba6c04a0$2f440de0$@winhaven.net>
	<536AB88D.29824.1A5023B0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <024801cf6a4d$b5581b30$20085190$@winhaven.net>

OK, that makes more sense to me. But then again, it also makes it fairly
useless to me as there are many fine text editors already available.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:50 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] New text editor

My first thought was  why on earth would you want a web based text editor? 

But it turns out that it is just another desktop text editor.  It doesn't
"run from your browser" 
and isn't written in HTML/CSS.    

The core is based on Google's Chromium  browser source - which in the
Windows environment requires VS2013 to build so looks like it uses .Net  

It allows you to build extensions  using HTML/CSS and javascript, so in a
way it uses "web related technologies"

But it is not web based at all.

--
Stuart

On 7 May 2014 at 13:25, John Bartow wrote:

> I don't understand how something can be "fully web based" and yet only 
> works on one OS. I thought web based meant it runs on the world wide 
> web and works with anything. Or do you mean browser based?
> 
> Please explain.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:33 PM To: Discussion of 
> Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editorAnd 
> why would anyone wa
> 
> To call Atom just a text editor is a little simplistic. 
> 
> The editor is fully web based, in other ward it runs from your 
> browser, it is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and supports all the the 
> Node.js libraries. It is fully OSS so if there is a feature that is 
> not fully supported a bold developer can add it. The editor and 
> features can be reviews and even downloaded at the following site:
> 
> https://atom.io
> 
> Unfortunately, at the moment, there is only a Mac version but 
> according to the release notes Windows and Linux versions are soon to 
> follow.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed May  7 22:10:01 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 21:10:01 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <021601cf6a21$ba6c04a0$2f440de0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1470655310.41907788.1399518601695.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi John:

I was trying to figure out how that worked, as well...there must a desktop component to it, is all I can think of. 

...of course I could see how it might not work on Windows IE. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:25:30 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] New text editor

I don't understand how something can be "fully web based" and yet only works
on one OS. I thought web based meant it runs on the world wide web and works
with anything. Or do you mean browser based?

Please explain.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:33 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor

To call Atom just a text editor is a little simplistic. 

The editor is fully web based, in other ward it runs from your browser, it
is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and supports all the the Node.js libraries. It
is fully OSS so if there is a feature that is not fully supported a bold
developer can add it. The editor and features can be reviews and even
downloaded at the following site:

https://atom.io

Unfortunately, at the moment, there is only a Mac version but according to
the release notes Windows and Linux versions are soon to follow.

Jim  
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed May  7 22:17:41 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 21:17:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <536AB88D.29824.1A5023B0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1880996786.41910729.1399519061097.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Stuart:

We needed someone to get to the root of the problem...your the man.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 3:49:49 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] New text editor

My first thought was  why on earth would you want a web based text editor? 

But it turns out that it is just another desktop text editor.  It doesn't "run from your browser" 
and isn't written in HTML/CSS.    

The core is based on Google's Chromium  browser source - which in the Windows 
environment requires VS2013 to build so looks like it uses .Net  

It allows you to build extensions  using HTML/CSS and javascript, so in a way it uses "web 
related technologies"

But it is not web based at all.

-- 
Stuart

On 7 May 2014 at 13:25, John Bartow wrote:

> I don't understand how something can be "fully web based" and yet only
> works on one OS. I thought web based meant it runs on the world wide
> web and works with anything. Or do you mean browser based?
> 
> Please explain.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:33 PM To: Discussion of
> Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editorAnd why would anyone wa
> 
> To call Atom just a text editor is a little simplistic. 
> 
> The editor is fully web based, in other ward it runs from your
> browser, it is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and supports all the the
> Node.js libraries. It is fully OSS so if there is a feature that is
> not fully supported a bold developer can add it. The editor and
> features can be reviews and even downloaded at the following site:
> 
> https://atom.io
> 
> Unfortunately, at the moment, there is only a Mac version but
> according to the release notes Windows and Linux versions are soon to
> follow.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu May  8 01:36:20 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 06:36:20 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
Message-ID: <7133b26d0ae3456399e0ad7705b0a994@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

> But it is not web based at all.

But OneDrive is. Click a .js file, and it opens in a text editor complete with intellisense, syntax colouring,  and line numbering.

Of course, normal document file types opens in on-line Office apps.

It is, in fact, very powerful.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
Sendt: 8. maj 2014 00:50
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] New text editor

My first thought was  why on earth would you want a web based text editor? 

But it turns out that it is just another desktop text editor.  It doesn't "run from your browser" 
and isn't written in HTML/CSS.    

The core is based on Google's Chromium  browser source - which in the Windows environment requires VS2013 to build so looks like it uses .Net  

It allows you to build extensions  using HTML/CSS and javascript, so in a way it uses "web related technologies"

But it is not web based at all.

--
Stuart

On 7 May 2014 at 13:25, John Bartow wrote:

> I don't understand how something can be "fully web based" and yet only 
> works on one OS. I thought web based meant it runs on the world wide 
> web and works with anything. Or do you mean browser based?
> 
> Please explain.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:33 PM To: Discussion of 
> Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editorAnd 
> why would anyone wa
> 
> To call Atom just a text editor is a little simplistic. 
> 
> The editor is fully web based, in other ward it runs from your 
> browser, it is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and supports all the the 
> Node.js libraries. It is fully OSS so if there is a feature that is 
> not fully supported a bold developer can add it. The editor and 
> features can be reviews and even downloaded at the following site:
> 
> https://atom.io
> 
> Unfortunately, at the moment, there is only a Mac version but 
> according to the release notes Windows and Linux versions are soon to 
> follow. 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu May  8 03:04:52 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 08:04:52 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare
Message-ID: <22a1cfcbf5c54b32904c5b24c9b33bdf@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

This afternoon we will shut down our NetWare server.

It is like reaching the last page of a very thick book. I've been with NetWare since version 2.0a in 1988 where ArcNet was used side by side with Token-Ring and Ethernet. My first installation used Unisys workstations with Intel 286 CPUs and Connect ArcNet cards. One workstation with an extra 1 MB ram was also the server - hardware was expensive those days. It ran for many years.

Then was NetWare 3.12 and then 4.11 which ran our first corporate server in 1993 on a 486 home-built Micron server with 32 MB ram, later replaced with an HP server with 80 MB ram. However, the old server was not trashed but sold as second hand and served four POS systems until late 2010(!). The power supply broke down once and was replaced in three hours for about $100, and the 2 GB SCSI harddisk was replaced in 2003, those were the only errors experienced. How many systems live for 17 years?

In 2004 our HP server was replaced with NetWare 6.5 Small Business Server on an IBM server. This is the installation which has run until this day for 9? years, though the server was replaced 8 years ago.

Three years ago it was clear that NetWare has no future despite its extreme reliability, so I started migrating this single server to Windows file and print servers and Active Directory. Still, the NetWare server ran GroupWise for e-mail and Apache for our web server.

Three months ago I finally had all mail transferred to Office 365 (later, perhaps, an in-house Exchange server) and yesterday the last service, our web site, was moved to our new Fujitsu TX140 server running Windows Server 2012 R2 which also hosts two VMs.

The Internet killed NetWare. It used the IPX/SPX protocols while everything should run TCP/IP. Microsoft was quite fast to adopt where Novell was not so fast, and TCP/IP always has been felt like an add-on as it was not native to the core of NetWare - administration of a NetWare server has always been a bit of a challenge. I never learned NW6.5 well - it was a job for specialists who we employed.

So ... the boss (Rita, my wife) has been appointed - for the first and last time - to face the console at 15:00 UTC to type shutdown at the command prompt and press enter, closing the Novell book.

/gustav

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu May  8 03:22:18 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 18:22:18 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <7133b26d0ae3456399e0ad7705b0a994@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <7133b26d0ae3456399e0ad7705b0a994@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <536B3EBA.8465.1C5C42FD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Does that work when you are off-line (as I am much of the time) 

On 8 May 2014 at 6:36, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> > But it is not web based at all.
> 
> But OneDrive is. Click a .js file, and it opens in a text editor
> complete with intellisense, syntax colouring,  and line numbering.
> 
> Of course, normal document file types opens in on-line Office apps.
> 
> It is, in fact, very powerful.
> 
> /gustav


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu May  8 04:19:22 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 09:19:22 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
Message-ID: <b5e161525d994694820188e25ad2ec17@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Stuart

No, and that is really - by design - the major drawback of web applications: No internet => no web app.

So you have to think twice before you put all your eggs in such basket.
The advantage is, of course, that with any decent computer with nothing more than a browser and your credentials, you can log on and work.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 8. maj 2014 10:22
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] New text editor

Does that work when you are off-line (as I am much of the time) 

On 8 May 2014 at 6:36, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> > But it is not web based at all.
> 
> But OneDrive is. Click a .js file, and it opens in a text editor 
> complete with intellisense, syntax colouring,  and line numbering.
> 
> Of course, normal document file types opens in on-line Office apps.
> 
> It is, in fact, very powerful.
> 
> /gustav 


From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu May  8 08:55:48 2014
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 09:55:48 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare
In-Reply-To: <22a1cfcbf5c54b32904c5b24c9b33bdf@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <22a1cfcbf5c54b32904c5b24c9b33bdf@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <536B8CE4.1080306@torchlake.com>

Gustav, even though this is a good thing for you it does seem kind of 
sad.  Maybe a final closing ceremony should be held, with a champagne 
toast and a farewell salute of some kind.  Thinking of you on this 
special day.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 5/8/2014 4:04 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
>
> This afternoon we will shut down our NetWare server.
>
> It is like reaching the last page of a very thick book. I've been with NetWare since version 2.0a in 1988 where ArcNet was used side by side with Token-Ring and Ethernet. My first installation used Unisys workstations with Intel 286 CPUs and Connect ArcNet cards. One workstation with an extra 1 MB ram was also the server - hardware was expensive those days. It ran for many years.
>
> Then was NetWare 3.12 and then 4.11 which ran our first corporate server in 1993 on a 486 home-built Micron server with 32 MB ram, later replaced with an HP server with 80 MB ram. However, the old server was not trashed but sold as second hand and served four POS systems until late 2010(!). The power supply broke down once and was replaced in three hours for about $100, and the 2 GB SCSI harddisk was replaced in 2003, those were the only errors experienced. How many systems live for 17 years?
>
> In 2004 our HP server was replaced with NetWare 6.5 Small Business Server on an IBM server. This is the installation which has run until this day for 9? years, though the server was replaced 8 years ago.
>
> Three years ago it was clear that NetWare has no future despite its extreme reliability, so I started migrating this single server to Windows file and print servers and Active Directory. Still, the NetWare server ran GroupWise for e-mail and Apache for our web server.
>
> Three months ago I finally had all mail transferred to Office 365 (later, perhaps, an in-house Exchange server) and yesterday the last service, our web site, was moved to our new Fujitsu TX140 server running Windows Server 2012 R2 which also hosts two VMs.
>
> The Internet killed NetWare. It used the IPX/SPX protocols while everything should run TCP/IP. Microsoft was quite fast to adopt where Novell was not so fast, and TCP/IP always has been felt like an add-on as it was not native to the core of NetWare - administration of a NetWare server has always been a bit of a challenge. I never learned NW6.5 well - it was a job for specialists who we employed.
>
> So ... the boss (Rita, my wife) has been appointed - for the first and last time - to face the console at 15:00 UTC to type shutdown at the command prompt and press enter, closing the Novell book.
>
> /gustav
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu May  8 09:24:28 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 14:24:28 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare
Message-ID: <81a11c99310c45ed818b8c7e8231d2b7@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Tina

Yes, we will be a small crowd, including the techie (now running his own business) who did the original install.
Not sure about the fanfare ...

/gustav

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Sendt: 8. maj 2014 15:56
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare

Gustav, even though this is a good thing for you it does seem kind of sad.  Maybe a final closing ceremony should be held, with a champagne toast and a farewell salute of some kind.  Thinking of you on this special day.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 5/8/2014 4:04 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
>
> This afternoon we will shut down our NetWare server.
>
> It is like reaching the last page of a very thick book. I've been with NetWare since version 2.0a in 1988 where ArcNet was used side by side with Token-Ring and Ethernet. My first installation used Unisys workstations with Intel 286 CPUs and Connect ArcNet cards. One workstation with an extra 1 MB ram was also the server - hardware was expensive those days. It ran for many years.
>
> Then was NetWare 3.12 and then 4.11 which ran our first corporate server in 1993 on a 486 home-built Micron server with 32 MB ram, later replaced with an HP server with 80 MB ram. However, the old server was not trashed but sold as second hand and served four POS systems until late 2010(!). The power supply broke down once and was replaced in three hours for about $100, and the 2 GB SCSI harddisk was replaced in 2003, those were the only errors experienced. How many systems live for 17 years?
>
> In 2004 our HP server was replaced with NetWare 6.5 Small Business Server on an IBM server. This is the installation which has run until this day for 9? years, though the server was replaced 8 years ago.
>
> Three years ago it was clear that NetWare has no future despite its extreme reliability, so I started migrating this single server to Windows file and print servers and Active Directory. Still, the NetWare server ran GroupWise for e-mail and Apache for our web server.
>
> Three months ago I finally had all mail transferred to Office 365 (later, perhaps, an in-house Exchange server) and yesterday the last service, our web site, was moved to our new Fujitsu TX140 server running Windows Server 2012 R2 which also hosts two VMs.
>
> The Internet killed NetWare. It used the IPX/SPX protocols while everything should run TCP/IP. Microsoft was quite fast to adopt where Novell was not so fast, and TCP/IP always has been felt like an add-on as it was not native to the core of NetWare - administration of a NetWare server has always been a bit of a challenge. I never learned NW6.5 well - it was a job for specialists who we employed.
>
> So ... the boss (Rita, my wife) has been appointed - for the first and last time - to face the console at 15:00 UTC to type shutdown at the command prompt and press enter, closing the Novell book.
>
> /gustav 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu May  8 09:40:29 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 07:40:29 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare
In-Reply-To: <536B8CE4.1080306@torchlake.com>
References: <22a1cfcbf5c54b32904c5b24c9b33bdf@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<536B8CE4.1080306@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <724B07F1C18B4A6FA17DCC53653F8786@HAL9007>

At least a catered affair with a hosted bar, I should think.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 6:56 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare

Gustav, even though this is a good thing for you it does seem kind of sad.
Maybe a final closing ceremony should be held, with a champagne toast and a
farewell salute of some kind.  Thinking of you on this special day.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 5/8/2014 4:04 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
>
> This afternoon we will shut down our NetWare server.
>
> It is like reaching the last page of a very thick book. I've been with
NetWare since version 2.0a in 1988 where ArcNet was used side by side with
Token-Ring and Ethernet. My first installation used Unisys workstations with
Intel 286 CPUs and Connect ArcNet cards. One workstation with an extra 1 MB
ram was also the server - hardware was expensive those days. It ran for many
years.
>
> Then was NetWare 3.12 and then 4.11 which ran our first corporate server
in 1993 on a 486 home-built Micron server with 32 MB ram, later replaced
with an HP server with 80 MB ram. However, the old server was not trashed
but sold as second hand and served four POS systems until late 2010(!). The
power supply broke down once and was replaced in three hours for about $100,
and the 2 GB SCSI harddisk was replaced in 2003, those were the only errors
experienced. How many systems live for 17 years?
>
> In 2004 our HP server was replaced with NetWare 6.5 Small Business Server
on an IBM server. This is the installation which has run until this day for
9? years, though the server was replaced 8 years ago.
>
> Three years ago it was clear that NetWare has no future despite its
extreme reliability, so I started migrating this single server to Windows
file and print servers and Active Directory. Still, the NetWare server ran
GroupWise for e-mail and Apache for our web server.
>
> Three months ago I finally had all mail transferred to Office 365 (later,
perhaps, an in-house Exchange server) and yesterday the last service, our
web site, was moved to our new Fujitsu TX140 server running Windows Server
2012 R2 which also hosts two VMs.
>
> The Internet killed NetWare. It used the IPX/SPX protocols while
everything should run TCP/IP. Microsoft was quite fast to adopt where Novell
was not so fast, and TCP/IP always has been felt like an add-on as it was
not native to the core of NetWare - administration of a NetWare server has
always been a bit of a challenge. I never learned NW6.5 well - it was a job
for specialists who we employed.
>
> So ... the boss (Rita, my wife) has been appointed - for the first and
last time - to face the console at 15:00 UTC to type shutdown at the command
prompt and press enter, closing the Novell book.
>
> /gustav
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu May  8 10:57:08 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 11:57:08 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new source of energy
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j7TmJn7uNYB8cT50vNNBuXoeg2Kt==i-XPrEv-6mXXUg@mail.gmail.com>

Our pets expend large amounts of energy wagging their tails. The problem
has always been, How to capture and store this vast energy source --
billions of mini-reactors all over the planet, all just pumping this energy
into their tails -- not to mention similar energy from those animals that
we cannot determine how to domesticate; but that is a side issue. Let us
begin instead with cats and dogs, conceive and then verify the method of
transformation and conversion into some medium of storage. I call this
Project Rickshaw (the idea being that rather a single human providing the
energy to move one from home to say Walmart and Home Hardware and then back
home, a million cats and dogs could in theory supply the energy required,
simply by wagging their tails, which they do anyway, so we could consider
this energy-source as virtually cost-free. We just need the conversion and
storage facilities and equations. In other words, Hardware and Software
issues. Brothers and Sisters, I ask that we collaborate on this energy
problem and this potential solution. Your next source of energy could even
now be lying on your lap, wagging his or her tail.

-- 
Arthur

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu May  8 11:04:22 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 12:04:22 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone here use jUnit?
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hKgHeLKZcpMr+oMZVHVK9ROL9SCaXcGqyBnbM2_9x+xQ@mail.gmail.com>

On a recent item emailed to me from a headhunter seeking an Acces/SQL
expert with a knowledge of jUnit, I was mystified. I've Google and found
their site and explored it a little, but I'm just inquiring whether anyone
here has had experience with this product. If so, kindly provide a brief
description of your experience and said product's contribution to the
project(s).

-- 
Arthur

From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu May  8 16:22:07 2014
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 17:22:07 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone here use jUnit?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hKgHeLKZcpMr+oMZVHVK9ROL9SCaXcGqyBnbM2_9x+xQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hKgHeLKZcpMr+oMZVHVK9ROL9SCaXcGqyBnbM2_9x+xQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <536BF57F.6010600@torchlake.com>

Until today, I had never heard of jUnit.  I hope you find someone who 
knows about it.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 5/8/2014 12:04 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> On a recent item emailed to me from a headhunter seeking an Acces/SQL
> expert with a knowledge of jUnit, I was mystified. I've Google and found
> their site and explored it a little, but I'm just inquiring whether anyone
> here has had experience with this product. If so, kindly provide a brief
> description of your experience and said product's contribution to the
> project(s).
>


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu May  8 16:41:52 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 07:41:52 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone here use jUnit?
In-Reply-To: <536BF57F.6010600@torchlake.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hKgHeLKZcpMr+oMZVHVK9ROL9SCaXcGqyBnbM2_9x+xQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<536BF57F.6010600@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <536BFA20.6791.1F3847AD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Seems it is a "unit testing framework" for Java. I don't see how a Java class which you 
embed in an application's source to test the Java code ties in to Access/SQL development in 
any way, shape or form.    


-- 
Stuart

On 8 May 2014 at 17:22, Tina Norris Fields wrote:

> Until today, I had never heard of jUnit.  I hope you find someone who
> knows about it. TNF
> 
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
> 
> On 5/8/2014 12:04 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> > On a recent item emailed to me from a headhunter seeking an
> > Acces/SQL expert with a knowledge of jUnit, I was mystified. I've
> > Google and found their site and explored it a little, but I'm just
> > inquiring whether anyone here has had experience with this product.
> > If so, kindly provide a brief description of your experience and
> > said product's contribution to the project(s).
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May  8 19:06:29 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 18:06:29 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <7133b26d0ae3456399e0ad7705b0a994@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <686577267.42664044.1399593989877.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

Ubuntu's Ubuntu.one free cloud storage is being phased out as of July...too bad not my business decision though. It provided 5GB free and of course was built into my system but only provided 5GB free but auto-synced all my personal directories. 

One commenter said: "The irony of this move is that the enterprise side of Canonical is doing exceptionally well on the cloud. Ubuntu is the top operating system on OpenStack and Amazon Web Services (AWS). Still, on the personal/small business Infrastructure-as a-Service (IaaS)  cloud side, Canonical felt like it couldn't compete. As the price for corporate cloud storage continues to dive with the Google vs. Amazon price war and, as more and more personal cloud file storage options appear, I'm sure Canonical won't be the last company to drop its personal cloud storage program." ...and that about sums my observations.

That said, I still have Dropbox and because of how long I have used it, there is 18GB open but I am very judicious on just what files I store there. ...just not sure hope secure my files are in this location... Even though it is not official it is a fairly easy task to connect Dropbox to Ubuntu Linux:

http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-dropbox-ubuntu-1404-lts.html   

Recently, installed a Google drive also fairly easy to install. It gives 5GB free but shows 19GB (?).

http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-grive-google-drive.html 

...but sync and management tools have to be added after the initial install:

http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-google-drive-client-grive-and-grive-to

I just discovered that I already have an Onedrive account with Microsoft. I guess I was automatically given one as I had a partner account with them for fifteen years(?). There is currently a Linux manager for OneDrive being created but it will not be ready for another month(?):

http://xybu.me/projects/onedrive-d

Aside: I sent a email to Microsoft asking when they were going to support Linux from their Cloud offering and one fellow phoned me back. He said that they were actively working on it...also he said when asked about the concept of IE having broad based OS support, that it is being considered but IE is hardware and PC API dependant, so it would not be a easy task. 

Here is an overview of the Cloud sync-backup products:

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/dropbox-gdrive-skydrive

I am still in the process of setting Onedrive so I am yet to test its features.

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:36:20 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] New text editor

Hi all

> But it is not web based at all.

But OneDrive is. Click a .js file, and it opens in a text editor complete with intellisense, syntax colouring,  and line numbering.

Of course, normal document file types opens in on-line Office apps.

It is, in fact, very powerful.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
Sendt: 8. maj 2014 00:50
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] New text editor

My first thought was  why on earth would you want a web based text editor? 

But it turns out that it is just another desktop text editor.  It doesn't "run from your browser" 
and isn't written in HTML/CSS.    

The core is based on Google's Chromium  browser source - which in the Windows environment requires VS2013 to build so looks like it uses .Net  

It allows you to build extensions  using HTML/CSS and javascript, so in a way it uses "web related technologies"

But it is not web based at all.

--
Stuart

On 7 May 2014 at 13:25, John Bartow wrote:

> I don't understand how something can be "fully web based" and yet only 
> works on one OS. I thought web based meant it runs on the world wide 
> web and works with anything. Or do you mean browser based?
> 
> Please explain.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:33 PM To: Discussion of 
> Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editorAnd 
> why would anyone wa
> 
> To call Atom just a text editor is a little simplistic. 
> 
> The editor is fully web based, in other ward it runs from your 
> browser, it is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and supports all the the 
> Node.js libraries. It is fully OSS so if there is a feature that is 
> not fully supported a bold developer can add it. The editor and 
> features can be reviews and even downloaded at the following site:
> 
> https://atom.io
> 
> Unfortunately, at the moment, there is only a Mac version but 
> according to the release notes Windows and Linux versions are soon to 
> follow. 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May  8 19:37:33 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 18:37:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare
In-Reply-To: <22a1cfcbf5c54b32904c5b24c9b33bdf@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <30030818.42681391.1399595853452.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

Ahh, the end of an era. A truly impressive lifetime.

I always liked Netware, right from the beginning as it was easy to manage. (Even had my CNE certification). Arcnet, the barb-wire network, at 4MBit was solid as a rock but I hated Token-Ring...worked on a government contract for over a year, doing nothing but keeping the network running...it was so flaky.  

Too bad Novelle's efforts did not go into upgrading the product, instead of trying to create a competing product line to match Microsoft Office. Microsoft did end up buying out the company and for the next decade both companies worked on designing and building Linux versions Enterprise Suse and OpenSuse. Many of the larger old Novelle sites migrated in the direction.

May your Netware, RIP.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 1:04:52 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare

Hi all

This afternoon we will shut down our NetWare server.

It is like reaching the last page of a very thick book. I've been with NetWare since version 2.0a in 1988 where ArcNet was used side by side with Token-Ring and Ethernet. My first installation used Unisys workstations with Intel 286 CPUs and Connect ArcNet cards. One workstation with an extra 1 MB ram was also the server - hardware was expensive those days. It ran for many years.

Then was NetWare 3.12 and then 4.11 which ran our first corporate server in 1993 on a 486 home-built Micron server with 32 MB ram, later replaced with an HP server with 80 MB ram. However, the old server was not trashed but sold as second hand and served four POS systems until late 2010(!). The power supply broke down once and was replaced in three hours for about $100, and the 2 GB SCSI harddisk was replaced in 2003, those were the only errors experienced. How many systems live for 17 years?

In 2004 our HP server was replaced with NetWare 6.5 Small Business Server on an IBM server. This is the installation which has run until this day for 9? years, though the server was replaced 8 years ago.

Three years ago it was clear that NetWare has no future despite its extreme reliability, so I started migrating this single server to Windows file and print servers and Active Directory. Still, the NetWare server ran GroupWise for e-mail and Apache for our web server.

Three months ago I finally had all mail transferred to Office 365 (later, perhaps, an in-house Exchange server) and yesterday the last service, our web site, was moved to our new Fujitsu TX140 server running Windows Server 2012 R2 which also hosts two VMs.

The Internet killed NetWare. It used the IPX/SPX protocols while everything should run TCP/IP. Microsoft was quite fast to adopt where Novell was not so fast, and TCP/IP always has been felt like an add-on as it was not native to the core of NetWare - administration of a NetWare server has always been a bit of a challenge. I never learned NW6.5 well - it was a job for specialists who we employed.

So ... the boss (Rita, my wife) has been appointed - for the first and last time - to face the console at 15:00 UTC to type shutdown at the command prompt and press enter, closing the Novell book.

/gustav
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May  8 20:56:07 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 19:56:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone here use jUnit?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hKgHeLKZcpMr+oMZVHVK9ROL9SCaXcGqyBnbM2_9x+xQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <546438624.42720412.1399600567878.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur:

I have heard of jUnit...without looking I think it is a product for testing website(?). How it relates to MS Access and MS SQL, I have no idea.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:04:22 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone here use jUnit?

On a recent item emailed to me from a headhunter seeking an Acces/SQL
expert with a knowledge of jUnit, I was mystified. I've Google and found
their site and explored it a little, but I'm just inquiring whether anyone
here has had experience with this product. If so, kindly provide a brief
description of your experience and said product's contribution to the
project(s).

-- 
Arthur
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu May  8 23:48:15 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 08:48:15 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Anyone_here_use_jUnit=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hKgHeLKZcpMr+oMZVHVK9ROL9SCaXcGqyBnbM2_9x+xQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hKgHeLKZcpMr+oMZVHVK9ROL9SCaXcGqyBnbM2_9x+xQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1399610895.711960059@f88.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Arthur --

I'm using nUnit - .NET Framework "clone" of jUnit?( http://www.nunit.org/ ) since 2006.
I guess your headhunter customer's could be interested in somebody having working experience in (unit) testing using jUnit of Java components' middle-ware communicating with MS Access/SQL back-ends.

-- Shamil

Thu, 8 May 2014 12:04:22 -0400 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>On a recent item emailed to me from a headhunter seeking an Acces/SQL
>expert with a knowledge of jUnit, I was mystified. I've Google and found
>their site and explored it a little, but I'm just inquiring whether anyone
>here has had experience with this product. If so, kindly provide a brief
>description of your experience and said product's contribution to the
>project(s).
>
>-- 
>Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May  9 02:07:02 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 07:07:02 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare
Message-ID: <eeb6e0dc7b8a4e2dbe56906ffbf0e2d1@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

The big mistake was ConsoleOne, using Java to create a GUI to match the managing of Windows Server NT. It was so slow that you didn't use it unless you had to.
The old rconsole was fast. They should have made a "WinConsole" as most had Windows workstations.

The other main problem was that it was quite difficult (or rather very difficult) to program applications for the server, thus third-party applications were few and often expensive. There should have been a "Visual Studio for NetWare" with a decent framework.

We have had only two clients with Token-Ring. One, a small advertising agency, had nearly zero problems running PC-LAN (the small-business version of Lan Manager), the other a subsidiary of a very large corporation where we - now you mention it, I had nearly forgot - experienced lots of issues. Also, the T-R cards were very expensive, I recall. That you don't miss.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 9. maj 2014 02:38
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare

Hi Gustav:

Ahh, the end of an era. A truly impressive lifetime.

I always liked Netware, right from the beginning as it was easy to manage. (Even had my CNE certification). Arcnet, the barb-wire network, at 4MBit was solid as a rock but I hated Token-Ring...worked on a government contract for over a year, doing nothing but keeping the network running...it was so flaky.  

Too bad Novelle's efforts did not go into upgrading the product, instead of trying to create a competing product line to match Microsoft Office. Microsoft did end up buying out the company and for the next decade both companies worked on designing and building Linux versions Enterprise Suse and OpenSuse. Many of the larger old Novelle sites migrated in the direction.

May your Netware, RIP.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 1:04:52 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] RIP - Novell NetWare

Hi all

This afternoon we will shut down our NetWare server.

It is like reaching the last page of a very thick book. I've been with NetWare since version 2.0a in 1988 where ArcNet was used side by side with Token-Ring and Ethernet. My first installation used Unisys workstations with Intel 286 CPUs and Connect ArcNet cards. One workstation with an extra 1 MB ram was also the server - hardware was expensive those days. It ran for many years.

Then was NetWare 3.12 and then 4.11 which ran our first corporate server in 1993 on a 486 home-built Micron server with 32 MB ram, later replaced with an HP server with 80 MB ram. However, the old server was not trashed but sold as second hand and served four POS systems until late 2010(!). The power supply broke down once and was replaced in three hours for about $100, and the 2 GB SCSI harddisk was replaced in 2003, those were the only errors experienced. How many systems live for 17 years?

In 2004 our HP server was replaced with NetWare 6.5 Small Business Server on an IBM server. This is the installation which has run until this day for 9? years, though the server was replaced 8 years ago.

Three years ago it was clear that NetWare has no future despite its extreme reliability, so I started migrating this single server to Windows file and print servers and Active Directory. Still, the NetWare server ran GroupWise for e-mail and Apache for our web server.

Three months ago I finally had all mail transferred to Office 365 (later, perhaps, an in-house Exchange server) and yesterday the last service, our web site, was moved to our new Fujitsu TX140 server running Windows Server 2012 R2 which also hosts two VMs.

The Internet killed NetWare. It used the IPX/SPX protocols while everything should run TCP/IP. Microsoft was quite fast to adopt where Novell was not so fast, and TCP/IP always has been felt like an add-on as it was not native to the core of NetWare - administration of a NetWare server has always been a bit of a challenge. I never learned NW6.5 well - it was a job for specialists who we employed.

So ... the boss (Rita, my wife) has been appointed - for the first and last time - to face the console at 15:00 UTC to type shutdown at the command prompt and press enter, closing the Novell book.

/gustav 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri May  9 14:50:08 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 23:50:08 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Get_your_Windows_8=2E1_updated?=
In-Reply-To: <135782367.41170272.1399454674934.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007>
	<135782367.41170272.1399454674934.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1399665008.146454593@f254.i.mail.ru>

 I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.

-- Shamil

Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>I have no idea?
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rocky Smolin" < rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>Or what?
>
>r 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
>more days.
>
>http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
>kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
>c75919d?page=100
>
>Jim
>_______________________________________________

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May  9 15:08:20 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 14:08:20 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <1399665008.146454593@f254.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <131476260.43336597.1399666100307.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

Thanks for the update...nothing like the last day. ;-)

...and there is always:

http://www.fixnow.us/microsoft-support-keyword-newm.php?gclid=CLzu_J7Sn74CFVQiMgodHAsAZQ

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:50:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

 I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.

-- Shamil

Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>I have no idea?
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rocky Smolin" < rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>Or what?
>
>r 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
>more days.
>
>http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
>kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
>c75919d?page=100
>
>Jim
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri May  9 15:18:38 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 00:18:38 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Get_your_Windows_8=2E1_updated?=
In-Reply-To: <131476260.43336597.1399666100307.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1399665008.146454593@f254.i.mail.ru>
	<131476260.43336597.1399666100307.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1399666718.495248887@f254.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

BTW. Win 8.1 seems to work/has overall system reaction time quicker than Win 8, and IE 11 is just flying comparing to IE10 I have had in Win8.

-- Shamil


Fri, 9 May 2014 14:08:20 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Thanks for the update...nothing like the last day. ;-)
>
>...and there is always:
>
>http://www.fixnow.us/microsoft-support-keyword-newm.php?gclid=CLzu_J7Sn74CFVQiMgodHAsAZQ
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:50:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>?I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>I have no idea?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Rocky Smolin" <  rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>>Or what?
>>
>>r 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>>It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
>>more days.
>>
>> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
>>kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
>>c75919d?page=100
>>
>>Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May  9 16:15:52 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 15:15:52 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <1399666718.495248887@f254.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <247549953.43388706.1399670152026.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

All pluses

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 1:18:38 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

 Hi Jim --

BTW. Win 8.1 seems to work/has overall system reaction time quicker than Win 8, and IE 11 is just flying comparing to IE10 I have had in Win8.

-- Shamil


Fri, 9 May 2014 14:08:20 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Thanks for the update...nothing like the last day. ;-)
>
>...and there is always:
>
>http://www.fixnow.us/microsoft-support-keyword-newm.php?gclid=CLzu_J7Sn74CFVQiMgodHAsAZQ
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:50:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>?I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>I have no idea?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Rocky Smolin" <  rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>>Or what?
>>
>>r 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>>It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
>>more days.
>>
>> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
>>kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
>>c75919d?page=100
>>
>>Jim
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Fri May  9 17:17:20 2014
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 18:17:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <1399665008.146454593@f254.i.mail.ru>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007>	<135782367.41170272.1399454674934.JavaMail.root@cds018>
	<1399665008.146454593@f254.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com>

Me too!
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 5/9/2014 3:50 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>   I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>> I have no idea?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rocky Smolin" < rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>> Or what?
>>
>> r
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>> It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
>> more days.
>>
>> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
>> kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
>> c75919d?page=100
>>
>> Jim
>> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat May 10 00:22:26 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 09:22:26 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Get_your_Windows_8=2E1_updated?=
In-Reply-To: <247549953.43388706.1399670152026.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1399666718.495248887@f254.i.mail.ru>
	<247549953.43388706.1399670152026.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1399699346.452541367@f409.i.mail.ru>

 Well, [Start] button is back but it doesn't yet act as in Win7 :)
But right-clicking [Start] button brings you a ?([WinKey] + X) popup menu with quite a few useful short-cuts...

-- Shamil

Fri, 9 May 2014 15:15:52 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>All pluses
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 1:18:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>BTW. Win 8.1 seems to work/has overall system reaction time quicker than Win 8, and IE 11 is just flying comparing to IE10 I have had in Win8.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Fri, 9 May 2014 14:08:20 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>Thanks for the update...nothing like the last day. ;-)
>>
>>...and there is always:
>>
>> http://www.fixnow.us/microsoft-support-keyword-newm.php?gclid=CLzu_J7Sn74CFVQiMgodHAsAZQ
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:50:08 PM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>>?I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>I have no idea?
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Rocky Smolin" <  rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>>Or what?
>>>
>>>r 
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>>It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
>>>more days.
>>>
>>>  http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
>>>kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
>>>c75919d?page=100
>>>
>>>Jim

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat May 10 00:55:15 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 22:55:15 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007>	<135782367.41170272.1399454674934.JavaMail.root@cds018><1399665008.146454593@f254.i.mail.ru>
	<536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <AA9D836A66164C78905B72CECB8507D9@HAL9007>

I didn't wanna get left out - so I upgraded to 8.1 on my laptop - only box
with W8.  It went smoothly, so far I don't see any big differences.  What
should I look for?

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:17 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

Me too!
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 5/9/2014 3:50 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>   I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>> I have no idea?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rocky Smolin" < rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < 
>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>> Or what?
>>
>> r
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
>> Lawrence
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>> It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you 
>> have two more days.
>>
>> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_i
>> nstall/
>> kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b34
>> 0-d2ce9
>> c75919d?page=100
>>
>> Jim
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat May 10 02:35:35 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 11:35:35 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Get_your_Windows_8=2E1_updated?=
In-Reply-To: <AA9D836A66164C78905B72CECB8507D9@HAL9007>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007>
	<536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com>
	<AA9D836A66164C78905B72CECB8507D9@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <1399707335.996718877@f120.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Rocky --

Check that 'Computer' is now called 'This PC' :)
SkyDrive is now integrated into Windows Explorer as 'OneDrive'.
[Start] button is back - clicking it will toggle 'Classic Desktop' and 'Metro UI', right-clicking it will display a [WinKey]+X popup menu...
...

For full 'What's New' list goto:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn140266.aspx


-- Shamil

Fri, 9 May 2014 22:55:15 -0700 from "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>:
>I didn't wanna get left out - so I upgraded to 8.1 on my laptop - only box
>with W8.  It went smoothly, so far I don't see any big differences.  What
>should I look for?
>
>r 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
>Fields
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:17 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>Me too!
>TNF
>
>Tina Norris Fields
>tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
>231-322-2787
>
>On 5/9/2014 3:50 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>>   I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>> Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>> I have no idea?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rocky Smolin" <  rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < 
>>>  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>> Or what?
>>>
>>> r
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
>>> Lawrence
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>> It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you 
>>> have two more days.
>>>
>>>  http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_i
>>> nstall/
>>> kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b34
>>> 0-d2ce9
>>> c75919d?page=100
>>>
>>> Jim
>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat May 10 09:30:29 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 08:30:29 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <1399699346.452541367@f409.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1110099547.43774600.1399732229517.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

Well that's a start. ;-)

How is your Cloud doing? I probably should have waited as it will take a while to get a new web site up and running and I have been pulled so many ways, in the last little while.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 10:22:26 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

 Well, [Start] button is back but it doesn't yet act as in Win7 :)
But right-clicking [Start] button brings you a ?([WinKey] + X) popup menu with quite a few useful short-cuts...

-- Shamil

Fri, 9 May 2014 15:15:52 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>All pluses
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 1:18:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>BTW. Win 8.1 seems to work/has overall system reaction time quicker than Win 8, and IE 11 is just flying comparing to IE10 I have had in Win8.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Fri, 9 May 2014 14:08:20 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>Thanks for the update...nothing like the last day. ;-)
>>
>>...and there is always:
>>
>> http://www.fixnow.us/microsoft-support-keyword-newm.php?gclid=CLzu_J7Sn74CFVQiMgodHAsAZQ
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:50:08 PM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>>?I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>I have no idea?
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Rocky Smolin" <  rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>>Or what?
>>>
>>>r 
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>>It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you have two
>>>more days.
>>>
>>>  http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_install/
>>>kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b340-d2ce9
>>>c75919d?page=100
>>>
>>>Jim
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat May 10 09:39:16 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 18:39:16 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Get_your_Windows_8=2E1_updated?=
In-Reply-To: <1110099547.43774600.1399732229517.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1399699346.452541367@f409.i.mail.ru>
	<1110099547.43774600.1399732229517.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1399732756.961555504@f358.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

>?Well that's a start. ;-)
Re-Start ;-)

>?How is your Cloud doing?
Frozen. No time currently. :(

-- Shamil

Sat, 10 May 2014 08:30:29 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Well that's a start. ;-)
>
>How is your Cloud doing? I probably should have waited as it will take a while to get a new web site up and running and I have been pulled so many ways, in the last little while.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 10:22:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>?Well, [Start] button is back but it doesn't yet act as in Win7 :)
>But right-clicking [Start] button brings you a ?([WinKey] + X) popup menu with quite a few useful short-cuts...
>
>-- Shamil
>
>Fri, 9 May 2014 15:15:52 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>All pluses
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 1:18:38 PM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>
>>?Hi Jim --
>>
>>BTW. Win 8.1 seems to work/has overall system reaction time quicker than Win 8, and IE 11 is just flying comparing to IE10 I have had in Win8.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Fri, 9 May 2014 14:08:20 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>
>>>Thanks for the update...nothing like the last day. ;-)
>>>
>>>...and there is always:
>>>
>>>  http://www.fixnow.us/microsoft-support-keyword-newm.php?gclid=CLzu_J7Sn74CFVQiMgodHAsAZQ
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:50:08 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>>?I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>>>
>>>-- Shamil
>>>
>>>Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>>I have no idea?
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Rocky Smolin" <  rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>>
>>>>Or what?
>>>>
>>>>r 
>
>


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon May 12 16:54:19 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 07:54:19 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] New text editor
In-Reply-To: <b5e161525d994694820188e25ad2ec17@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <b5e161525d994694820188e25ad2ec17@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <5371430B.28755.33DCFD32@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I immediately thought of this thread when I saw it today:

 http://xkcd.com/1367/

-- 
Stuart

On 8 May 2014 at 9:19, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> 
> No, and that is really - by design - the major drawback of web
> applications: No internet => no web app.
> 
> So you have to think twice before you put all your eggs in such
> basket. The advantage is, of course, that with any decent computer
> with nothing more than a browser and your credentials, you can log on
> and work.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart
> McLachlan Sendt: 8. maj 2014 10:22 Til: Discussion of Hardware and
> Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] New text editor
> 
> Does that work when you are off-line (as I am much of the time) 
> 
> On 8 May 2014 at 6:36, Gustav Brock wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > > But it is not web based at all.
> > 
> > But OneDrive is. Click a .js file, and it opens in a text editor
> > complete with intellisense, syntax colouring,  and line numbering.
> > 
> > Of course, normal document file types opens in on-line Office apps.
> > 
> > It is, in fact, very powerful.
> > 
> > /gustav 
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May 13 12:57:43 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 11:57:43 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another web RAD
In-Reply-To: <1399666718.495248887@f254.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <352621294.45815638.1400003863859.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Here is another web RAD package...any good is the question,

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/no-html-experience-necessary-to-build-responsive-apps-with-rapidmoon/#.

Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu May 15 06:22:13 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 07:22:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hOAtzKMer8KF6Wyzj9zhd5EGQVOq2v=mC3-o6GWeEmXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Somewhere, somehow, I picked up some crapware that is without doubt the
rudest I have ever encountered. When I'm running Chrome, every few minutes,
a very loud commercial appears in a window in the lower right corner of the
Chrome window -- no matter which tab I'm on. Yes, I can close these
annoying little bastards, but they are sooo distracting (which, from their
point of view, means they are a success).

These ads do not appear in FireFox. I don't know about IE since I seldom if
ever use it.

I suppose that I could un-install Chrome and then re-install it, to see if
that cures the problem, but before doing so, I thought I'd ask whether
anyone knows what this intrusive software is, so I can put it out of my
misery once and for all.

-- 
Arthur

From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Thu May 15 07:17:19 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 12:17:19 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hOAtzKMer8KF6Wyzj9zhd5EGQVOq2v=mC3-o6GWeEmXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hOAtzKMer8KF6Wyzj9zhd5EGQVOq2v=mC3-o6GWeEmXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17c283a4663e4073bab96babf4cb15ff@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

All you need to know is: MalwareBytes.

Download it, install it and update it, then scan your computer with it.

It's available free from www.malwarebytes.org


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

Somewhere, somehow, I picked up some crapware that is without doubt the rudest I have ever encountered. When I'm running Chrome, every few minutes, a very loud commercial appears in a window in the lower right corner of the Chrome window -- no matter which tab I'm on. Yes, I can close these annoying little bastards, but they are sooo distracting (which, from their point of view, means they are a success).

These ads do not appear in FireFox. I don't know about IE since I seldom if ever use it.

I suppose that I could un-install Chrome and then re-install it, to see if that cures the problem, but before doing so, I thought I'd ask whether anyone knows what this intrusive software is, so I can put it out of my misery once and for all.

--
Arthur
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu May 15 08:48:06 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:48:06 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hOAtzKMer8KF6Wyzj9zhd5EGQVOq2v=mC3-o6GWeEmXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hOAtzKMer8KF6Wyzj9zhd5EGQVOq2v=mC3-o6GWeEmXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00dd01cf7044$4d8ff200$e8afd600$@winhaven.net>



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:22 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

Somewhere, somehow, I picked up some crapware that is without doubt the
rudest I have ever encountered. When I'm running Chrome, every few minutes,
a very loud commercial appears in a window in the lower right corner of the
Chrome window -- no matter which tab I'm on. Yes, I can close these annoying
little bastards, but they are sooo distracting (which, from their point of
view, means they are a success).

These ads do not appear in FireFox. I don't know about IE since I seldom if
ever use it.
>Maybe you should.


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu May 15 09:28:15 2014
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 09:28:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware
In-Reply-To: <17c283a4663e4073bab96babf4cb15ff@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hOAtzKMer8KF6Wyzj9zhd5EGQVOq2v=mC3-o6GWeEmXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<17c283a4663e4073bab96babf4cb15ff@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <010d01cf7049$e9485930$bbd90b90$@winhaven.net>

Definitely! But I've had some Chrome injections that even that didn't cure,
nor resetting to defaults, etc. When Chrome is invaded it goes down hard.
Ended up uninstalling and reinstalling. And if you have your chrome synched
across the net then you have to troubleshoot all of the synced machines.
Arg! Firefox is much easier to troubleshoot.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Lonza Slough
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:17 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

All you need to know is: MalwareBytes.

Download it, install it and update it, then scan your computer with it.

It's available free from www.malwarebytes.org


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

Somewhere, somehow, I picked up some crapware that is without doubt the
rudest I have ever encountered. When I'm running Chrome, every few minutes,
a very loud commercial appears in a window in the lower right corner of the
Chrome window -- no matter which tab I'm on. Yes, I can close these annoying
little bastards, but they are sooo distracting (which, from their point of
view, means they are a success).

These ads do not appear in FireFox. I don't know about IE since I seldom if
ever use it.

I suppose that I could un-install Chrome and then re-install it, to see if
that cures the problem, but before doing so, I thought I'd ask whether
anyone knows what this intrusive software is, so I can put it out of my
misery once and for all.

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 15 15:27:09 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 14:27:09 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hOAtzKMer8KF6Wyzj9zhd5EGQVOq2v=mC3-o6GWeEmXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1304032446.47628486.1400185629913.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur: 

Just go to the options setting in Chrome, Show Advanced Setting and click Rest Browser settings. You will loose all you plugins but that is your problem. 

HTH
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, 15 May, 2014 4:22:13 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

Somewhere, somehow, I picked up some crapware that is without doubt the
rudest I have ever encountered. When I'm running Chrome, every few minutes,
a very loud commercial appears in a window in the lower right corner of the
Chrome window -- no matter which tab I'm on. Yes, I can close these
annoying little bastards, but they are sooo distracting (which, from their
point of view, means they are a success).

These ads do not appear in FireFox. I don't know about IE since I seldom if
ever use it.

I suppose that I could un-install Chrome and then re-install it, to see if
that cures the problem, but before doing so, I thought I'd ask whether
anyone knows what this intrusive software is, so I can put it out of my
misery once and for all.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 15 15:38:23 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 14:38:23 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware
In-Reply-To: <00dd01cf7044$4d8ff200$e8afd600$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1031972674.47638209.1400186303294.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur:

Are you not running Windows 8.x and Linux which should both be almost impervious to malware?

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
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Sent: Thursday, 15 May, 2014 6:48:06 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:22 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

Somewhere, somehow, I picked up some crapware that is without doubt the
rudest I have ever encountered. When I'm running Chrome, every few minutes,
a very loud commercial appears in a window in the lower right corner of the
Chrome window -- no matter which tab I'm on. Yes, I can close these annoying
little bastards, but they are sooo distracting (which, from their point of
view, means they are a success).

These ads do not appear in FireFox. I don't know about IE since I seldom if
ever use it.
>Maybe you should.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 15 15:46:46 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 14:46:46 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware
In-Reply-To: <010d01cf7049$e9485930$bbd90b90$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1383326824.47644692.1400186806984.JavaMail.root@cds018>

I have sort of settled on Firefox. 

Not because of any prejudice but because FF has been my least problematic browser. IE has a very bad reputation and Chrome, as of late, has been having some issues...case in point.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, 15 May, 2014 7:28:15 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

Definitely! But I've had some Chrome injections that even that didn't cure,
nor resetting to defaults, etc. When Chrome is invaded it goes down hard.
Ended up uninstalling and reinstalling. And if you have your chrome synched
across the net then you have to troubleshoot all of the synced machines.
Arg! Firefox is much easier to troubleshoot.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Lonza Slough
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:17 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

All you need to know is: MalwareBytes.

Download it, install it and update it, then scan your computer with it.

It's available free from www.malwarebytes.org


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Brutal Crapware

Somewhere, somehow, I picked up some crapware that is without doubt the
rudest I have ever encountered. When I'm running Chrome, every few minutes,
a very loud commercial appears in a window in the lower right corner of the
Chrome window -- no matter which tab I'm on. Yes, I can close these annoying
little bastards, but they are sooo distracting (which, from their point of
view, means they are a success).

These ads do not appear in FireFox. I don't know about IE since I seldom if
ever use it.

I suppose that I could un-install Chrome and then re-install it, to see if
that cures the problem, but before doing so, I thought I'd ask whether
anyone knows what this intrusive software is, so I can put it out of my
misery once and for all.

--
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu May 15 18:03:07 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 19:03:07 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i+SZ_gL=bijysCZvMPMJNGHkCisGBz=jN11o5JWoa+4g@mail.gmail.com>

Today's ZDNet featured photo gallery is called Six Clicks: Insanely great
Raspberry Pi devices you can build yourself.  Quoting the intro blurb:

The question isn't: "What can you do with a Raspberry Pi?" The question is:
"What can't you do with a Raspberry Pi?"

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 15 20:19:18 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 19:19:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i+SZ_gL=bijysCZvMPMJNGHkCisGBz=jN11o5JWoa+4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1379668082.47828808.1400203158081.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur:

That sounds great...link please. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, 15 May, 2014 4:03:07 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi

Today's ZDNet featured photo gallery is called Six Clicks: Insanely great
Raspberry Pi devices you can build yourself.  Quoting the intro blurb:

The question isn't: "What can you do with a Raspberry Pi?" The question is:
"What can't you do with a Raspberry Pi?"

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri May 16 03:48:38 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 04:48:38 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <1379668082.47828808.1400203158081.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <CAEPJO1i+SZ_gL=bijysCZvMPMJNGHkCisGBz=jN11o5JWoa+4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1379668082.47828808.1400203158081.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hrG4AP9_KFbtem8P2SCkoNyJky6wznqcp++ffbYA_v+g@mail.gmail.com>

Here you go, Jim.

http://www.zdnet.com/six-clicks-insanely-great-raspberry-pi-devices-you-can-build-yourself_p5-7000029300/#photo

Arthur
?

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri May 16 05:32:10 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:10 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>

I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few
characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use charmap
etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the Alt+number
keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII numbers for these
characters?

-- 
Arthur

From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Fri May 16 05:38:30 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:38:30 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Hi Arthur

Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it here, I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that combination, I get a capital E-acute. But that's on my UK installation, and I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work on yours.

Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as it doesn't replace it in the subject line!


Jon

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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters

I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII numbers for these characters?

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri May 16 05:47:01 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 06:47:01 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hLivvGuV0_mQyFEz7n4VBq-v8-c2aeYzDQtuz4ihFAmQ@mail.gmail.com>

Jon,

I get the same thing here, but hey, now I know how to get the Euro sign,
which was half my question. I tried it in Word and got the Euro sign.
However, here in Gmail I get nothing at all, with or without the Shift key
added. In Word, adding the Shift key gives me nothing at all.

A.


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough <
jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it here,
> I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that combination, I get a
> capital E-acute. But that's on my UK installation, and I wouldn't be
> surprised if it didn't work on yours.
>
> Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as it
> doesn't replace it in the subject line!
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
>
> I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few
> characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use charmap
> etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the Alt+number
> keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII numbers for these
> characters?
>
> --
> Arthur
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Fri May 16 05:52:52 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:52:52 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?b?U3BlY2lhbCBjaGFyYWN0ZXJzICDDqcOJ4oKs?=
Message-ID: <db87df3555b34d9d83470fc4a753ad49@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Well, if it's any help, you can copy the characters I've put in the subject line :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:47 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Special characters

Jon,

I get the same thing here, but hey, now I know how to get the Euro sign, which was half my question. I tried it in Word and got the Euro sign.
However, here in Gmail I get nothing at all, with or without the Shift key added. In Word, adding the Shift key gives me nothing at all.

A.


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough < jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it
> Ctrl+Alt+here,
> I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that combination, I get a
> capital E-acute. But that's on my UK installation, and I wouldn't be
> surprised if it didn't work on yours.
>
> Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as it
> doesn't replace it in the subject line!
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
>
> I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few
> characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use
> charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the
> Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII
> numbers for these characters?
>
> --
> Arthur
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Fri May 16 05:53:34 2014
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:53:34 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hLivvGuV0_mQyFEz7n4VBq-v8-c2aeYzDQtuz4ihFAmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<CAEPJO1hLivvGuV0_mQyFEz7n4VBq-v8-c2aeYzDQtuz4ihFAmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c28df07fd3aa41f9a62f84d93518affe@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Actually, this might help:
http://www.asciitable.com/


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:47 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Special characters

Jon,

I get the same thing here, but hey, now I know how to get the Euro sign, which was half my question. I tried it in Word and got the Euro sign.
However, here in Gmail I get nothing at all, with or without the Shift key added. In Word, adding the Shift key gives me nothing at all.

A.


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough < jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it
> Ctrl+Alt+here,
> I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that combination, I get a
> capital E-acute. But that's on my UK installation, and I wouldn't be
> surprised if it didn't work on yours.
>
> Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as it
> doesn't replace it in the subject line!
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
>
> I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few
> characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use
> charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the
> Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII
> numbers for these characters?
>
> --
> Arthur
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri May 16 06:22:58 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:22:58 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5375F512.3827.4634675A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

In Word 2010 , go to Insert - Symbol - More Symbols. 
It shows the various symbols and their key codes.

Jot down the ones you want to use regularly and memorise them.

Euro = Alt +0128
e-acute = Alt + 0233



On 16 May 2014 at 6:32, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few
> characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use
> charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the
> Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII
> numbers for these characters?
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri May 16 06:25:44 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:25:44 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hLivvGuV0_mQyFEz7n4VBq-v8-c2aeYzDQtuz4ihFAmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>,
	<c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>,
	<CAEPJO1hLivvGuV0_mQyFEz7n4VBq-v8-c2aeYzDQtuz4ihFAmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5375F5B8.4576.4636F086@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Word has quite a de Ctrl+.... shortcuts as well as the standard Alt+xxxx form which works in 
many (most?) Windows applications.  The Ctrl+.... ones don't usually work in anything other 
than Office.



On 16 May 2014 at 6:47, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Jon,
> 
> I get the same thing here, but hey, now I know how to get the Euro
> sign, which was half my question. I tried it in Word and got the Euro
> sign. However, here in Gmail I get nothing at all, with or without the
> Shift key added. In Word, adding the Shift key gives me nothing at
> all.
> 
> A.
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough <
> jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Arthur
> >
> > Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it
> > here, I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that combination,
> > I get a capital E-acute. But that's on my UK installation, and I
> > wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work on yours.
> >
> > Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as
> > it doesn't replace it in the subject line!
> >
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and
> > Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
> >
> > I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few
> > characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use
> > charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter
> > the Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII
> > numbers for these characters?
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> > ________________________________
> > This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain
> > confidential and privileged information the use of which by other
> > persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If
> > you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender
> > immediately and delete the material from your system.
> >
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri May 16 06:30:22 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:30:22 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <c28df07fd3aa41f9a62f84d93518affe@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAEPJO1hLivvGuV0_mQyFEz7n4VBq-v8-c2aeYzDQtuz4ihFAmQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<c28df07fd3aa41f9a62f84d93518affe@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <5375F6CE.31493.463B2E41@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Nope ASCII <> Unicode.  It doesn't do Euro, accented characters etc.

"Extended ASCII" is dependent on the Code Page in use.

-- 
Stuart

On 16 May 2014 at 10:53, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough wrote:

> Actually, this might help:
> http://www.asciitable.com/
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur
> Fuller Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:47 AM To: Discussion of Hardware
> and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Special characters
> 
> Jon,
> 
> I get the same thing here, but hey, now I know how to get the Euro
> sign, which was half my question. I tried it in Word and got the Euro
> sign. However, here in Gmail I get nothing at all, with or without the
> Shift key added. In Word, adding the Shift key gives me nothing at
> all.
> 
> A.
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough <
> jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Arthur
> >
> > Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it
> > Ctrl+Alt+here, I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that
> > combination, I get a capital E-acute. But that's on my UK
> > installation, and I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work on
> > yours.
> >
> > Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as
> > it doesn't replace it in the subject line!
> >
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and
> > Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
> >
> > I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few
> > characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use
> > charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter
> > the Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII
> > numbers for these characters?
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May 16 07:56:00 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 12:56:00 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update
Message-ID: <1400244960031.93940@cactus.dk>

Hi all



This month the MS updates for Win8.1, Office 2013, and Visual Studio 2013 exceeded 1 GB.

I hope this is a one-time happening.



/gustav

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri May 16 08:01:43 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 06:01:43 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <c28df07fd3aa41f9a62f84d93518affe@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com><c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net><CAEPJO1hLivvGuV0_mQyFEz7n4VBq-v8-c2aeYzDQtuz4ihFAmQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<c28df07fd3aa41f9a62f84d93518affe@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <E7E5F8A747EF4C76A408526197B84CA4@HAL9007>

I've used that before - to get the character I held down the Alt key while
typing the three digit decimal code

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Lonza Slough
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:54 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Special characters

Actually, this might help:
http://www.asciitable.com/


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:47 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Special characters

Jon,

I get the same thing here, but hey, now I know how to get the Euro sign,
which was half my question. I tried it in Word and got the Euro sign.
However, here in Gmail I get nothing at all, with or without the Shift key
added. In Word, adding the Shift key gives me nothing at all.

A.


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough <
jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it 
> Ctrl+Alt+here,
> I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that combination, I get a 
> capital E-acute. But that's on my UK installation, and I wouldn't be 
> surprised if it didn't work on yours.
>
> Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as it 
> doesn't replace it in the subject line!
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
>
> I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few 
> characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use 
> charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the
> Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII
> numbers for these characters?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
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> confidential and privileged information the use of which by other 
> persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you 
> receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender 
> immediately and delete the material from your system.
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri May 16 08:06:46 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:06:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?b?U3BlY2lhbCBjaGFyYWN0ZXJzIMOpw4nigqw=?=
In-Reply-To: <db87df3555b34d9d83470fc4a753ad49@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <db87df3555b34d9d83470fc4a753ad49@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gBcGSbGPf1QpCdDA3cuURcAj=uEK5zH5Z56rGvXykMcg@mail.gmail.com>

Jon,

I did just that, and to see what happens, I then opened NoteTab (a NotePad
replacement) and pasted them into it, and it worked. Kewl.

A.


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough <
jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:

> Well, if it's any help, you can copy the characters I've put in the
> subject line :-)
>
>
> Jon

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri May 16 08:19:11 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:19:11 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <E7E5F8A747EF4C76A408526197B84CA4@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<CAEPJO1hLivvGuV0_mQyFEz7n4VBq-v8-c2aeYzDQtuz4ihFAmQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<c28df07fd3aa41f9a62f84d93518affe@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<E7E5F8A747EF4C76A408526197B84CA4@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hcn=vSA0j-JoLt2uh=9WUrO0S1tMVnYTnHZM8nX7hCLg@mail.gmail.com>

Jon,

That site is pretty cool. Besides the ASCII table, it's got some other
useful ones as well. Years ago I worked as Dev/DBA at a travel agency,
where I came to
 learn the Phonetic Alphabet, but have since forgotten a few of the
letters. (That's the one created by NATO -- alpha, bravo, charlie, delta,
etc.) There they are, on that site. It was a splendid refresher.


Actually, this might help:
> http://www.asciitable.com/
>
>
> Jon
>

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri May 16 09:04:24 2014
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:04:24 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?b?U3BlY2lhbCBjaGFyYWN0ZXJzIMOpw4nigqw=?=
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gBcGSbGPf1QpCdDA3cuURcAj=uEK5zH5Z56rGvXykMcg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <db87df3555b34d9d83470fc4a753ad49@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<CAEPJO1gBcGSbGPf1QpCdDA3cuURcAj=uEK5zH5Z56rGvXykMcg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWEcHcBvUNM=D0q+XejNq9vkaPB3zRyOp=xjmqbN=eRraA@mail.gmail.com>

Try this, where all the numbers are typed on the NumPad:

ALT+0233 = ?
ALT+0201 = ?
ALT+0128 = ?

For any others that you don't know, use the charmap app, and click on
the letter/symbol in question. In the bottom right corner you will see
the ALT code to type if there is one available and not all are.

B

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jon,
>
> I did just that, and to see what happens, I then opened NoteTab (a NotePad
> replacement) and pasted them into it, and it worked. Kewl.
>
> A.
>
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough <
> jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, if it's any help, you can copy the characters I've put in the
>> subject line :-)
>>
>>
>> Jon
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 10:02:18 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:02:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hrG4AP9_KFbtem8P2SCkoNyJky6wznqcp++ffbYA_v+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <829324646.48180149.1400252538461.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur:

Thank you.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 1:48:38 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi

Here you go, Jim.

http://www.zdnet.com/six-clicks-insanely-great-raspberry-pi-devices-you-can-build-yourself_p5-7000029300/#photo

Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 10:46:01 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:46:01 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hrG4AP9_KFbtem8P2SCkoNyJky6wznqcp++ffbYA_v+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1154446038.48233664.1400255161725.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur:

...And this is a very small list of what can be and has been built with a Pi.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 1:48:38 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Raspberry Pi

Here you go, Jim.

http://www.zdnet.com/six-clicks-insanely-great-raspberry-pi-devices-you-can-build-yourself_p5-7000029300/#photo

Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 10:55:24 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:55:24 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update
In-Reply-To: <1400244960031.93940@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1614928871.48243866.1400255724757.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

I hope that means lots of improvements.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 5:56:00 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi all



This month the MS updates for Win8.1, Office 2013, and Visual Studio 2013 exceeded 1 GB.

I hope this is a one-time happening.



/gustav
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May 16 11:33:44 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 16:33:44 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update
In-Reply-To: <1614928871.48243866.1400255724757.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1400244960031.93940@cactus.dk>,
	<1614928871.48243866.1400255724757.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1400258023451.22360@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

No, it's mostly security updates.

/Gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 17:55
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

I hope that means lots of improvements.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 5:56:00 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi all



This month the MS updates for Win8.1, Office 2013, and Visual Studio 2013 exceeded 1 GB.

I hope this is a one-time happening.



/gustav
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 12:01:41 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:01:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update
In-Reply-To: <1400258023451.22360@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1758877038.48310414.1400259701278.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

That is truly sad but it seems that the more complex the product is the more likely it is to be hacked.

On the internet there are whole market places that deal strictly with selling hacks. These sites are not illegal and they are not likely to be shut down as groups like the NSA, GCHQ and government like Russia, China, Israel, France as well as hundreds of shady companies troll and bid on these exploits. According to someone, in the know, some exploits have sold in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in US currency.

Some have suggested it is impossible for any detection program really work. Alan Solomon, the god-father of the virus detection programs, has abandoned the concept that true security can ever be assured.

http://blogs.techworld.com/war-on-error/2014/05/anti-virus-pioneer-alan-solomon-thinks-anti-virus-is-dead-he-uses-linux-instead/index.htm

Do you think that any OS, now or in the future can offer true security?

Jim        

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 9:33:44 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

No, it's mostly security updates.

/Gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 17:55
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

I hope that means lots of improvements.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 5:56:00 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi all



This month the MS updates for Win8.1, Office 2013, and Visual Studio 2013 exceeded 1 GB.

I hope this is a one-time happening.



/gustav
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May 16 12:40:32 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 17:40:32 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update
In-Reply-To: <1758877038.48310414.1400259701278.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1400258023451.22360@cactus.dk>,
	<1758877038.48310414.1400259701278.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1400262031983.28499@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Probably nothing can run safely on its own. But behind a firewall, using Secure DNS, having antimalware on always updated workstations, using and ad-blocker, running with tracking protection or private browsing, and having educated users, we feel perfectly safe.

http://www.privoxy.org/

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 19:01
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

That is truly sad but it seems that the more complex the product is the more likely it is to be hacked.

On the internet there are whole market places that deal strictly with selling hacks. These sites are not illegal and they are not likely to be shut down as groups like the NSA, GCHQ and government like Russia, China, Israel, France as well as hundreds of shady companies troll and bid on these exploits. According to someone, in the know, some exploits have sold in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in US currency.

Some have suggested it is impossible for any detection program really work. Alan Solomon, the god-father of the virus detection programs, has abandoned the concept that true security can ever be assured.

http://blogs.techworld.com/war-on-error/2014/05/anti-virus-pioneer-alan-solomon-thinks-anti-virus-is-dead-he-uses-linux-instead/index.htm

Do you think that any OS, now or in the future can offer true security?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 9:33:44 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

No, it's mostly security updates.

/Gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 17:55
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

I hope that means lots of improvements.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 5:56:00 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi all



This month the MS updates for Win8.1, Office 2013, and Visual Studio 2013 exceeded 1 GB.

I hope this is a one-time happening.



/gustav

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri May 16 12:47:19 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 13:47:19 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?b?U3BlY2lhbCBjaGFyYWN0ZXJzIMOpw4nigqw=?=
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWEcHcBvUNM=D0q+XejNq9vkaPB3zRyOp=xjmqbN=eRraA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <db87df3555b34d9d83470fc4a753ad49@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<CAEPJO1gBcGSbGPf1QpCdDA3cuURcAj=uEK5zH5Z56rGvXykMcg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWEcHcBvUNM=D0q+XejNq9vkaPB3zRyOp=xjmqbN=eRraA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jHsCMFJwS3rH9nNPZnzAdG0Hj4KgHZxrmeVPRusOM0SQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Bryan.

A.


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>wrote:

> Try this, where all the numbers are typed on the NumPad:
>
> ALT+0233 = ?
> ALT+0201 = ?
> ALT+0128 = ?
>
> For any others that you don't know, use the charmap app, and click on
> the letter/symbol in question. In the bottom right corner you will see
> the ALT code to type if there is one available and not all are.
>
> B
>

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri May 16 13:30:24 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 13:30:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <CAEPJO1hi7LkgeCz52aBDQ-EZRCmX2R0gmLFphpnJufYYgf0U2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<c3e78ff69ec6427bab77d4df92ed68e1@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <53765940.3080609@earthlink.net>

On 2014-05-16 5:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough wrote:
> Hi Arthur
>
> Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it here, I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that combination, I get a capital E-acute. But that's on my UK installation, and I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work on yours.

Those work in Word, but they do nothing for me in non-Microsoft editors. 
Can you get those characters that way in, say, TextPad or Notepad++? If 
so, how?

My solution has been to keep this wee printout taped to the bottom left 
corner of the laptop ...

a with grave accent?ALT 133?ALT 0192

a with circumflex?ALT 131?ALT 0194

a with tr?ma?ALT 132?ALT 142

ae ligature?ALT 145?ALT 146

c with cedilla?ALT 135?ALT 128

e with acute accent?ALT 130?ALT 144

e with grave accent?ALT 138?ALT 0200

e with circumflex?ALT 136?ALT 0202

e with tr?ma?ALT 137?ALT 0203

i with circumflex?ALT 140?ALT 0206

i with tr?ma?ALT 139?ALT 0207

o with circumflex?ALT 147?ALT 0212

oe ligatureoeALT 0156OEALT 0140

o with tr?ma?ALT 0246?ALT 0214

u with grave accent?ALT 151?ALT 0217

u with circumflex?ALT 150?ALT 0219

u with tr?ma?ALT 129?ALT 154

French quotes?ALT 174?ALT 175

Euro,plus-minus EURALT 0128?ALT 0177




PB

>
> Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as it doesn't replace it in the subject line!
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
>
> I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII numbers for these characters?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From eptept at gmail.com  Fri May 16 15:24:50 2014
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 16:24:50 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox White screen
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpVYBbZ9va25SZzphL96sK=-_-Nhdif8+iOarf4_S+uZkQ@mail.gmail.com>

I use Firefox as my browser and the home page is set to Google Advanced
Search, yet 9 times out of 10 I just get a full white screen, any ideas?

From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri May 16 15:31:16 2014
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 15:31:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Firefox White screen
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpVYBbZ9va25SZzphL96sK=-_-Nhdif8+iOarf4_S+uZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEkqQpVYBbZ9va25SZzphL96sK=-_-Nhdif8+iOarf4_S+uZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pKgv8tFQ20EYbrfsi9AeVrPDW-+_OF4690Dse10gcompw@mail.gmail.com>

First thing I would try is to switch to a different home page to see if
it's because of the use of that one.

I use Firefox on a bunch of systems and have never had an issue like that
but I don't ever use Advanced search either.

GK


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Ed Tesiny <eptept at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use Firefox as my browser and the home page is set to Google Advanced
> Search, yet 9 times out of 10 I just get a full white screen, any ideas?
>



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 16:03:28 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 15:03:28 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update
In-Reply-To: <1400262031983.28499@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <990092403.48512096.1400274208760.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

I agree full-heartedly...add to that a bit of common sense and everyone should be more than secure.

I have been looking at proxy services but have been very apprehensive as some look dangerous. Have you had any issues with "privoxy"? Would you strong recommend it? If so, I will give it a try....thanks for posting. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 10:40:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

Probably nothing can run safely on its own. But behind a firewall, using Secure DNS, having antimalware on always updated workstations, using and ad-blocker, running with tracking protection or private browsing, and having educated users, we feel perfectly safe.

http://www.privoxy.org/

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 19:01
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

That is truly sad but it seems that the more complex the product is the more likely it is to be hacked.

On the internet there are whole market places that deal strictly with selling hacks. These sites are not illegal and they are not likely to be shut down as groups like the NSA, GCHQ and government like Russia, China, Israel, France as well as hundreds of shady companies troll and bid on these exploits. According to someone, in the know, some exploits have sold in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in US currency.

Some have suggested it is impossible for any detection program really work. Alan Solomon, the god-father of the virus detection programs, has abandoned the concept that true security can ever be assured.

http://blogs.techworld.com/war-on-error/2014/05/anti-virus-pioneer-alan-solomon-thinks-anti-virus-is-dead-he-uses-linux-instead/index.htm

Do you think that any OS, now or in the future can offer true security?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 9:33:44 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

No, it's mostly security updates.

/Gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 17:55
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

I hope that means lots of improvements.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 5:56:00 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi all



This month the MS updates for Win8.1, Office 2013, and Visual Studio 2013 exceeded 1 GB.

I hope this is a one-time happening.



/gustav
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 16:04:56 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 15:04:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <53765940.3080609@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1842621717.48513454.1400274296572.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Peter:

Another great resource.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 11:30:24 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Special characters

On 2014-05-16 5:38 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough wrote:
> Hi Arthur
>
> Ctrl+Alt+e usually gives me the e-acute, but when I went to prove it here, I get the Euro symbol... if I add shift into that combination, I get a capital E-acute. But that's on my UK installation, and I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work on yours.

Those work in Word, but they do nothing for me in non-Microsoft editors. 
Can you get those characters that way in, say, TextPad or Notepad++? If 
so, how?

My solution has been to keep this wee printout taped to the bottom left 
corner of the laptop ...

a with grave accent?ALT 133?ALT 0192

a with circumflex?ALT 131?ALT 0194

a with tr?ma?ALT 132?ALT 142

ae ligature?ALT 145?ALT 146

c with cedilla?ALT 135?ALT 128

e with acute accent?ALT 130?ALT 144

e with grave accent?ALT 138?ALT 0200

e with circumflex?ALT 136?ALT 0202

e with tr?ma?ALT 137?ALT 0203

i with circumflex?ALT 140?ALT 0206

i with tr?ma?ALT 139?ALT 0207

o with circumflex?ALT 147?ALT 0212

oe ligatureoeALT 0156OEALT 0140

o with tr?ma?ALT 0246?ALT 0214

u with grave accent?ALT 151?ALT 0217

u with circumflex?ALT 150?ALT 0219

u with tr?ma?ALT 129?ALT 154

French quotes?ALT 174?ALT 175

Euro,plus-minus EURALT 0128?ALT 0177




PB

>
> Actually, I wonder if I have an auto-replace set up for that... as it doesn't replace it in the subject line!
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:32 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
>
> I frequently have need to type the symbol for Euros, and also a few characters used in French, especially e-acute. I know I can use charmap etc. but I'd prefer to lose that sidetrack and just enter the Alt+number keystroke combination. Anyone know offhand the ASCII numbers for these characters?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> ________________________________
> This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May 16 16:15:21 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:15:21 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update
In-Reply-To: <990092403.48512096.1400274208760.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1400262031983.28499@cactus.dk>,
	<990092403.48512096.1400274208760.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1400274921602.32394@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

It removes a lot but not all - and has some false positives, nothing more than you can live with.
A few sites don't work as intended, but then you just switch it off for a moment.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 23:03
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

I agree full-heartedly...add to that a bit of common sense and everyone should be more than secure.

I have been looking at proxy services but have been very apprehensive as some look dangerous. Have you had any issues with "privoxy"? Would you strong recommend it? If so, I will give it a try....thanks for posting.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 10:40:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

Probably nothing can run safely on its own. But behind a firewall, using Secure DNS, having antimalware on always updated workstations, using and ad-blocker, running with tracking protection or private browsing, and having educated users, we feel perfectly safe.

http://www.privoxy.org/

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 19:01
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

That is truly sad but it seems that the more complex the product is the more likely it is to be hacked.

On the internet there are whole market places that deal strictly with selling hacks. These sites are not illegal and they are not likely to be shut down as groups like the NSA, GCHQ and government like Russia, China, Israel, France as well as hundreds of shady companies troll and bid on these exploits. According to someone, in the know, some exploits have sold in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in US currency.

Some have suggested it is impossible for any detection program really work. Alan Solomon, the god-father of the virus detection programs, has abandoned the concept that true security can ever be assured.

http://blogs.techworld.com/war-on-error/2014/05/anti-virus-pioneer-alan-solomon-thinks-anti-virus-is-dead-he-uses-linux-instead/index.htm

Do you think that any OS, now or in the future can offer true security?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 9:33:44 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

No, it's mostly security updates.

/Gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 17:55
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

I hope that means lots of improvements.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 5:56:00 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi all

This month the MS updates for Win8.1, Office 2013, and Visual Studio 2013 exceeded 1 GB.

I hope this is a one-time happening.

/gustav

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 16:41:58 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 15:41:58 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update
In-Reply-To: <1400274921602.32394@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1035135719.48534727.1400276518522.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

Thank you, I will test it out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 2:15:21 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

It removes a lot but not all - and has some false positives, nothing more than you can live with.
A few sites don't work as intended, but then you just switch it off for a moment.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 23:03
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

I agree full-heartedly...add to that a bit of common sense and everyone should be more than secure.

I have been looking at proxy services but have been very apprehensive as some look dangerous. Have you had any issues with "privoxy"? Would you strong recommend it? If so, I will give it a try....thanks for posting.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 10:40:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

Probably nothing can run safely on its own. But behind a firewall, using Secure DNS, having antimalware on always updated workstations, using and ad-blocker, running with tracking protection or private browsing, and having educated users, we feel perfectly safe.

http://www.privoxy.org/

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 19:01
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

That is truly sad but it seems that the more complex the product is the more likely it is to be hacked.

On the internet there are whole market places that deal strictly with selling hacks. These sites are not illegal and they are not likely to be shut down as groups like the NSA, GCHQ and government like Russia, China, Israel, France as well as hundreds of shady companies troll and bid on these exploits. According to someone, in the know, some exploits have sold in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in US currency.

Some have suggested it is impossible for any detection program really work. Alan Solomon, the god-father of the virus detection programs, has abandoned the concept that true security can ever be assured.

http://blogs.techworld.com/war-on-error/2014/05/anti-virus-pioneer-alan-solomon-thinks-anti-virus-is-dead-he-uses-linux-instead/index.htm

Do you think that any OS, now or in the future can offer true security?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 9:33:44 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Jim

No, it's mostly security updates.

/Gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. maj 2014 17:55
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi Gustav:

I hope that means lots of improvements.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 5:56:00 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] MS: Giga update

Hi all

This month the MS updates for Win8.1, Office 2013, and Visual Studio 2013 exceeded 1 GB.

I hope this is a one-time happening.

/gustav
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri May 16 16:42:10 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 07:42:10 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I don't trust Cloud Computing
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j7TmJn7uNYB8cT50vNNBuXoeg2Kt==i-XPrEv-6mXXUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j7TmJn7uNYB8cT50vNNBuXoeg2Kt==i-XPrEv-6mXXUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53768632.3412.486B4D32@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Yet another one:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/16/cloud_computing_is_fail_and_heres_why/




From kathryn at bassett.net  Fri May 16 16:54:19 2014
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 14:54:19 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Firefox White screen
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_pKgv8tFQ20EYbrfsi9AeVrPDW-+_OF4690Dse10gcompw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEkqQpVYBbZ9va25SZzphL96sK=-_-Nhdif8+iOarf4_S+uZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKgv8tFQ20EYbrfsi9AeVrPDW-+_OF4690Dse10gcompw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOIeTr63sZ5Ipryv+TZ45YfCiQAAEAAAAE9SUyylMkJMtzO2nx5GvOkBAAAAAA==@bassett.net>

I use advanced and never have that problem.
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: 16 May 2014 1:31 PM
> To: Off Topic
> Cc: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Firefox White screen
> 
> First thing I would try is to switch to a different home page to see if
it's
> because of the use of that one.
> 
> I use Firefox on a bunch of systems and have never had an issue like that
but
> I don't ever use Advanced search either.
> 
> GK
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Ed Tesiny <eptept at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I use Firefox as my browser and the home page is set to Google
> > Advanced Search, yet 9 times out of 10 I just get a full white screen,
any
> ideas?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 17:06:55 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 16:06:55 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Firefox White screen
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOIeTr63sZ5Ipryv+TZ45YfCiQAAEAAAAE9SUyylMkJMtzO2nx5GvOkBAAAAAA==@bassett.net>
Message-ID: <901930558.48547596.1400278015191.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Me neither... So who knows what the real problem is?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathryn Bassett" <kathryn at bassett.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 2:54:19 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Firefox White screen

I use advanced and never have that problem.
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: 16 May 2014 1:31 PM
> To: Off Topic
> Cc: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Firefox White screen
> 
> First thing I would try is to switch to a different home page to see if
it's
> because of the use of that one.
> 
> I use Firefox on a bunch of systems and have never had an issue like that
but
> I don't ever use Advanced search either.
> 
> GK
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Ed Tesiny <eptept at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I use Firefox as my browser and the home page is set to Google
> > Advanced Search, yet 9 times out of 10 I just get a full white screen,
any
> ideas?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 17:20:27 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 16:20:27 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I don't trust Cloud Computing
In-Reply-To: <53768632.3412.486B4D32@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1107351150.48555288.1400278827415.JavaMail.root@cds018>

The main reason for Adobe's problem is their attempt to guarantee that no one will ever steal their software. Unfortunately, as fast as they make new security patches hackers break them.

Finally this patch and security frenzy has shut the whole company down. Too bad really, but building perfect security is like designing cold-fusion. It has been theorized for years, even promised by a few but it never has materialized.

But it is not really the "Cloud"'s fault that someone in Adobe screwed up.

Jim   

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From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 May, 2014 2:42:10 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I don't trust Cloud Computing

Yet another one:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/16/cloud_computing_is_fail_and_heres_why/



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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat May 17 07:28:58 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 08:28:58 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Special characters
In-Reply-To: <1842621717.48513454.1400274296572.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <53765940.3080609@earthlink.net>
	<1842621717.48513454.1400274296572.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iUxczsiZ613qqhPWtWOhBP2cAui6bVZ9X4Rvk7tHXYTw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Peter. I just printed it out as a cute little table.

Arthur
?

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon May 19 08:29:52 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 09:29:52 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Banana Crisis
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gDYBSGe-2jdL8mZMPH1w75F6UPkBbbAQAqJr19_x_NHw@mail.gmail.com>

The current crisis in banana production (viral attack) might have an up
side. The banana we know here in North America is the Cavendish, which
among banana connoisseurs is generally considered one of the worst types of
banana.

Did you know that there are over 1000 types of banana in the world?
Apparently, the best ones come from Congo and the Philippines.

When I was a kid, there were only two types of apple in grocery stores --
red and green. Now every grocery has a dozen or more varieties. Perhaps
something similar could happen to bananas.

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon May 19 08:54:20 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 06:54:20 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Banana Crisis
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gDYBSGe-2jdL8mZMPH1w75F6UPkBbbAQAqJr19_x_NHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gDYBSGe-2jdL8mZMPH1w75F6UPkBbbAQAqJr19_x_NHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <789918C24D8940919AF7AD7C33FCB3AD@HAL9007>

One can only hope... :)

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 6:30 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Banana Crisis

The current crisis in banana production (viral attack) might have an up
side. The banana we know here in North America is the Cavendish, which among
banana connoisseurs is generally considered one of the worst types of
banana.

Did you know that there are over 1000 types of banana in the world?
Apparently, the best ones come from Congo and the Philippines.

When I was a kid, there were only two types of apple in grocery stores --
red and green. Now every grocery has a dozen or more varieties. Perhaps
something similar could happen to bananas.

--
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon May 19 10:53:23 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 09:53:23 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Banana Crisis
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gDYBSGe-2jdL8mZMPH1w75F6UPkBbbAQAqJr19_x_NHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <685496172.49763181.1400514803969.JavaMail.root@cds018>

It seems like that is the way of all our food suppliers. 

It is very dangerous to become dependent on a mono-culture food supply...think how many varieties of potatoes there are; over 4000. If the Irish had not been totally dependent on a single variety of potato, that was susceptible to the strain of the fungus-like pathogen "Phytophthora infestans called HERB1" (I looked it up) there would have been no Irish potato famine.

Aside: This is another reason why communal farmer markets are so important as there are dozens of varieties of every fruit, vegetable, dairy and meat products. I counted 18 types of potatoes in one of our local markets...a good start but I understand that the new age north American farmer are starting to grow about 90 potato types. :-)  Box stores have been struggling to keep up.

Jim     

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, 19 May, 2014 6:29:52 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Banana Crisis

The current crisis in banana production (viral attack) might have an up
side. The banana we know here in North America is the Cavendish, which
among banana connoisseurs is generally considered one of the worst types of
banana.

Did you know that there are over 1000 types of banana in the world?
Apparently, the best ones come from Congo and the Philippines.

When I was a kid, there were only two types of apple in grocery stores --
red and green. Now every grocery has a dozen or more varieties. Perhaps
something similar could happen to bananas.

-- 
Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue May 20 03:40:17 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 08:40:17 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers
Message-ID: <6670fd55960949d880d05625311589c4@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

When you have Windows Server 2012 as print server, how do you manage and offer printing for non-Windows devices like iPads and Android tablets?
AirPrint is not an option as this is Apple only.

I have tested HP ePrint service which is way too slow (may delay print output by 15 minuttes) and Microsoft Internet Print which, however, is for Windows only.

I've also checked EveryonePrint which is quite different but seems to work:

http://www.everyoneprint.com/everyoneprint-for-business/feature-tour/how-users-print-business/

Other suggestions or experiences?

/gustav

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue May 20 04:42:23 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 19:42:23 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers
In-Reply-To: <6670fd55960949d880d05625311589c4@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <6670fd55960949d880d05625311589c4@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <537B237F.30682.5A719E5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I use PrintHand on my Android tablet.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dynamixsoftware.printhand

Free/Demo version lets you check it out by printing test pages. 

To actually use it, you need the $12.95 version, it's well worth it to me. 

-- 
Stuart

On 20 May 2014 at 8:40, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> When you have Windows Server 2012 as print server, how do you manage
> and offer printing for non-Windows devices like iPads and Android
> tablets? AirPrint is not an option as this is Apple only.
> 
> I have tested HP ePrint service which is way too slow (may delay print
> output by 15 minuttes) and Microsoft Internet Print which, however, is
> for Windows only.
> 
> I've also checked EveryonePrint which is quite different but seems to
> work:
> 
> http://www.everyoneprint.com/everyoneprint-for-business/feature-tour/h
> ow-users-print-business/
> 
> Other suggestions or experiences?
> 
> /gustav
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue May 20 09:38:31 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 14:38:31 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers
Message-ID: <45e3bfb05c02473081ef32e0c4fe323a@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Stuart

Thanks. It seems to be true cross-platform.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
Sendt: 20. maj 2014 11:42
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

I use PrintHand on my Android tablet.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dynamixsoftware.printhand

Free/Demo version lets you check it out by printing test pages. 

To actually use it, you need the $12.95 version, it's well worth it to me. 

--
Stuart

On 20 May 2014 at 8:40, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> When you have Windows Server 2012 as print server, how do you manage 
> and offer printing for non-Windows devices like iPads and Android 
> tablets? AirPrint is not an option as this is Apple only.
> 
> I have tested HP ePrint service which is way too slow (may delay print 
> output by 15 minuttes) and Microsoft Internet Print which, however, is 
> for Windows only.
> 
> I've also checked EveryonePrint which is quite different but seems to
> work:
> 
> http://www.everyoneprint.com/everyoneprint-for-business/feature-tour/h
> ow-users-print-business/
> 
> Other suggestions or experiences?
> 
> /gustav 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May 20 12:46:31 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 11:46:31 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers
In-Reply-To: <6670fd55960949d880d05625311589c4@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1052944563.50563245.1400607991771.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

I have not done a lot of this but on both Windows and Linux systems you can set your printer's share up so they share to the web. The one thing needed is a domain and the DNS setup. (I have been using ZoneEdit for years as they allow finer data management and flow control than most domain hosts and for a single domain it is free: http://www.zoneedit.com)  

When I was working, I would just print my documentation and invoices directly to my client's printers. I would not reciprocate as one major job sent from a contractor or client, to my system, could use all my paper and ink. It also works easier with a printer that has its own IP address then much external access, security and management can be setup right in the router. (All the banks that I working in did this with all their printer.) 

I did setup remote printing on a Ubuntu box recently and as I recall it was a fairly straight forward process...it would be logical to assume Windows would be equally as easy.

Aside: Maybe things with Windows desktop pass-through printing has improved but in the past it was such a unreliable PITA. Give me Netware, a Linux box or a server of any kind.

Aside: Are you in the process of building your Netware replacement?

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:40:17 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi all

When you have Windows Server 2012 as print server, how do you manage and offer printing for non-Windows devices like iPads and Android tablets?
AirPrint is not an option as this is Apple only.

I have tested HP ePrint service which is way too slow (may delay print output by 15 minuttes) and Microsoft Internet Print which, however, is for Windows only.

I've also checked EveryonePrint which is quite different but seems to work:

http://www.everyoneprint.com/everyoneprint-for-business/feature-tour/how-users-print-business/

Other suggestions or experiences?

/gustav
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May 20 17:28:40 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:28:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] CSS Vocabulary
In-Reply-To: <537B237F.30682.5A719E5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1446890124.50806031.1400624920178.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Here is a helpful little CSS vocabulary link:

http://pumpula.net/p/apps/css-vocabulary

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May 20 17:30:42 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:30:42 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A simple CSS solar system demo
In-Reply-To: <537B237F.30682.5A719E5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <650487498.50807025.1400625042601.JavaMail.root@cds018>

The following link is to a zip of CSS solar system demo:

https://github.com/juliangarnier/3D-CSS-Solar-System/archive/master.zip

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May 20 18:06:31 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 17:06:31 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] bit torrent backups and transfers
In-Reply-To: <650487498.50807025.1400625042601.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <19478212.50835921.1400627191657.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Here is a link to a new BitTorrent backup, transfer and syncing product.

http://syncthing.net

This product is still in its infancy so the interface will need work but it is similar to the solid product BitTorrent Sync. The main difference is that this product is fully OSS, has a more fancier GUI and the potentially has a faster evolution time due to more people assisting in product development and refinement.

For those interested in learning the new Cloud language "Go", you can investigate the GitHub source files and learn how to implement two key encryption, directory validation, using the Bittorrent protocol, how to integrate the code JSON, JS, HTML, CSS, how to manage port monitoring, scripting for Win/Linux/Apple, error management and of course Go...and so on...a real treasure trove of working code samples.

Jim  

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May 20 18:26:04 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 17:26:04 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Creating virtualization
In-Reply-To: <650487498.50807025.1400625042601.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <466940815.50850086.1400628364088.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Here is an interesting program that will allow you to create your own virtualizations on your desktop.

https://www.proxmox.com

Unlike big web server based products like Docker, this product has a small brother. Below is a paragraph explaining the product:

"By combining two virtualization technologies under one platform, Proxmox VE is giving maximum flexibility to your professional virtual environment. Use full virtualization for Windows and Linux images, and containers to run conflict-free Linux applications." 

Of course as you would suspect the product in Linux focused but I would think that it would be easy to install in Hyper-V, at least for the GUI, as much of HV's core is from the Linux kernel. Proxmox uses the built-in Linux Kernel-based Virtual Machine (KVM): http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page 

Unlike virtual drives the over-head of KVM products have a much smaller foot-print, are much faster to implement and run at almost core speed.

Jim

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed May 21 02:24:41 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:24:41 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Attaching_14_Monitors_on_Windows_8=2E1_with_?=
 =?utf-8?q?USB?=
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCgojV=fnrGRCafBaB1S=SU+xoXwQqC3Y+_bTZ1OfdfauQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<CAGXtTCgojV=fnrGRCafBaB1S=SU+xoXwQqC3Y+_bTZ1OfdfauQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1400657081.98670083@f177.i.mail.ru>

 Hello Mark --

What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?

How about this one? Anybody?

Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced Exchange Warranty?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU


Thank you.

-- Shamil

Sun, 6 Apr 2014 16:12:19 +0100 from Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com>:
>Hello Shamil,
>
>a few years ago, I added two graphics cards to my pc and ran with 3/4
>monitors for while.  Four was two much, but I used three for a few years.
>2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch.
>
>About a year ago I bought a new dell 29inch monitor that displays 2650 by
>1080.  That means that I have have SSMS and a browser all on the same
>screen in parallel.  Since I bought this monitor, I removed the other thee
>and now only run on screen on my desk.
>
>I prefer the fresh air now rather than being cluttered with three screens,
>if I want to work on two items, I hit Win Key and left arrow and use the
>right hand side of the screen.
>
>just my experiences.
>
>mark
>
>
>
>
>On 5 April 2014 19:31, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>
>>  Hi All --
>>
>> FYI: I have just got impressed with that - dreaming to get four-five
>> monitors "armored" laptop here:
>>
>>  http://plugable.com/2014/03/10/attaching-14-monitors-on-windows-8-1-with-usb-2-0
>>
>>
>> --
>> ???????????? ??????
>.

From marklbreen at gmail.com  Wed May 21 04:54:05 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 10:54:05 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
In-Reply-To: <1400657081.98670083@f177.i.mail.ru>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<CAGXtTCgojV=fnrGRCafBaB1S=SU+xoXwQqC3Y+_bTZ1OfdfauQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1400657081.98670083@f177.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCiMY8zn9qXqWsuxA8D9vVrZ_x4yaUejg-uaU1rod8W=xg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Shamil,

I think that is is

the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
love it.




On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Hello Mark --
>
> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>
> How about this one? Anybody?
>
> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
> Exchange Warranty
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> Sun, 6 Apr 2014 16:12:19 +0100 from Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com>:
> >Hello Shamil,
> >
> >a few years ago, I added two graphics cards to my pc and ran with 3/4
> >monitors for while.  Four was two much, but I used three for a few years.
> >2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch.
> >
> >About a year ago I bought a new dell 29inch monitor that displays 2650 by
> >1080.  That means that I have have SSMS and a browser all on the same
> >screen in parallel.  Since I bought this monitor, I removed the other thee
> >and now only run on screen on my desk.
> >
> >I prefer the fresh air now rather than being cluttered with three screens,
> >if I want to work on two items, I hit Win Key and left arrow and use the
> >right hand side of the screen.
> >
> >just my experiences.
> >
> >mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 5 April 2014 19:31, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
> >
> >>  Hi All --
> >>
> >> FYI: I have just got impressed with that - dreaming to get four-five
> >> monitors "armored" laptop here:
> >>
> >>
> http://plugable.com/2014/03/10/attaching-14-monitors-on-windows-8-1-with-usb-2-0
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ???????????? ??????
> >.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed May 21 12:32:32 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:32:32 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers
In-Reply-To: <1052944563.50563245.1400607991771.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <6670fd55960949d880d05625311589c4@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<1052944563.50563245.1400607991771.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1400693552421.61306@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

I wouldn't dare to use a public hostname as is, also I can't imagine it would work from iPads and phones. I think you need a "middle-man".

The NetWare server has been fully replaced. File and print was moved a couple of years ago to Windows 2003 R2/2008 R2 servers with DFS replication and lately to 2008 R2/2012 R2.
GroupWise was moved to Office 365 earlier this year and web server recently to our in-house IIS.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 20. maj 2014 19:46
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Gustav:

I have not done a lot of this but on both Windows and Linux systems you can set your printer's share up so they share to the web. The one thing needed is a domain and the DNS setup. (I have been using ZoneEdit for years as they allow finer data management and flow control than most domain hosts and for a single domain it is free: http://www.zoneedit.com)

When I was working, I would just print my documentation and invoices directly to my client's printers. I would not reciprocate as one major job sent from a contractor or client, to my system, could use all my paper and ink. It also works easier with a printer that has its own IP address then much external access, security and management can be setup right in the router. (All the banks that I working in did this with all their printer.)

I did setup remote printing on a Ubuntu box recently and as I recall it was a fairly straight forward process...it would be logical to assume Windows would be equally as easy.

Aside: Maybe things with Windows desktop pass-through printing has improved but in the past it was such a unreliable PITA. Give me Netware, a Linux box or a server of any kind.

Aside: Are you in the process of building your Netware replacement?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:40:17 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi all

When you have Windows Server 2012 as print server, how do you manage and offer printing for non-Windows devices like iPads and Android tablets?
AirPrint is not an option as this is Apple only.

I have tested HP ePrint service which is way too slow (may delay print output by 15 minuttes) and Microsoft Internet Print which, however, is for Windows only.

I've also checked EveryonePrint which is quite different but seems to work:

http://www.everyoneprint.com/everyoneprint-for-business/feature-tour/how-users-print-business/

Other suggestions or experiences?

/gustav


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed May 21 12:39:27 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCiMY8zn9qXqWsuxA8D9vVrZ_x4yaUejg-uaU1rod8W=xg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<CAGXtTCgojV=fnrGRCafBaB1S=SU+xoXwQqC3Y+_bTZ1OfdfauQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1400657081.98670083@f177.i.mail.ru>,
	<CAGXtTCiMY8zn9qXqWsuxA8D9vVrZ_x4yaUejg-uaU1rod8W=xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1400693966855.53234@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440 which I like very much.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com>
Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB

Hello Shamil,

I think that is is

the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
love it.




On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Hello Mark --
>
> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>
> How about this one? Anybody?
>
> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
> Exchange Warranty
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> Sun, 6 Apr 2014 16:12:19 +0100 from Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com>:
> >Hello Shamil,
> >
> >a few years ago, I added two graphics cards to my pc and ran with 3/4
> >monitors for while.  Four was two much, but I used three for a few years.
> >2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch.
> >
> >About a year ago I bought a new dell 29inch monitor that displays 2650 by
> >1080.  That means that I have have SSMS and a browser all on the same
> >screen in parallel.  Since I bought this monitor, I removed the other thee
> >and now only run on screen on my desk.
> >
> >I prefer the fresh air now rather than being cluttered with three screens,
> >if I want to work on two items, I hit Win Key and left arrow and use the
> >right hand side of the screen.
> >
> >just my experiences.
> >
> >mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 5 April 2014 19:31, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
> >
> >>  Hi All --
> >>
> >> FYI: I have just got impressed with that - dreaming to get four-five
> >> monitors "armored" laptop here:
> >>
> >>
> http://plugable.com/2014/03/10/attaching-14-monitors-on-windows-8-1-with-usb-2-0
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ???????????? ??????


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed May 21 15:09:44 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 00:09:44 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Attaching_14_Monitors_on_Windows_8=2E1_with_?=
 =?utf-8?q?USB?=
In-Reply-To: <1400693966855.53234@cactus.dk>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<CAGXtTCiMY8zn9qXqWsuxA8D9vVrZ_x4yaUejg-uaU1rod8W=xg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1400693966855.53234@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1400702984.406852401@f203.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Philips should be expensive?
What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440 which I like very much.
>
>/gustav
>________________________________________
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen < marklbreen at gmail.com >
>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>
>Hello Shamil,
>
>I think that is is
>
>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
>love it.
>
>
>
>
>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>
>>  Hello Mark --
>>
>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>>
>> How about this one? Anybody?
>>
>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
>> Exchange Warranty
>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>> Sun, 6 Apr 2014 16:12:19 +0100 from Mark Breen < marklbreen at gmail.com >:
>> >Hello Shamil,
>> >
>> >a few years ago, I added two graphics cards to my pc and ran with 3/4
>> >monitors for while.  Four was two much, but I used three for a few years.
>> >2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch.
>> >
>> >About a year ago I bought a new dell 29inch monitor that displays 2650 by
>> >1080.  That means that I have have SSMS and a browser all on the same
>> >screen in parallel.  Since I bought this monitor, I removed the other thee
>> >and now only run on screen on my desk.
>> >
>> >I prefer the fresh air now rather than being cluttered with three screens,
>> >if I want to work on two items, I hit Win Key and left arrow and use the
>> >right hand side of the screen.
>> >
>> >just my experiences.
>> >
>> >mark
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On 5 April 2014 19:31, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>> >
>> >>  Hi All --
>> >>
>> >> FYI: I have just got impressed with that - dreaming to get four-five
>> >> monitors "armored" laptop here:
>> >>
>> >>
>>  http://plugable.com/2014/03/10/attaching-14-monitors-on-windows-8-1-with-usb-2-0
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ???????????? ??????
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed May 21 15:29:38 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 20:29:38 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
In-Reply-To: <1400702984.406852401@f203.i.mail.ru>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<CAGXtTCiMY8zn9qXqWsuxA8D9vVrZ_x4yaUejg-uaU1rod8W=xg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1400693966855.53234@cactus.dk>,<1400702984.406852401@f203.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1400704177884.70614@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

It was an "old" model being sold out: PHILIPS No. 272C4QPJKAB/00
At about EUR 320 excl. VAT

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 21. maj 2014 22:09
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB

 Hi Gustav --

Philips should be expensive?
What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440 which I like very much.
>
>/gustav
>________________________________________
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen < marklbreen at gmail.com >
>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>
>Hello Shamil,
>
>I think that is is
>
>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
>love it.
>
>
>
>
>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>
>>  Hello Mark --
>>
>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>>
>> How about this one? Anybody?
>>
>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
>> Exchange Warranty
>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -- Shamil

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed May 21 17:02:51 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 02:02:51 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Attaching_14_Monitors_on_Windows_8=2E1_with_?=
 =?utf-8?q?USB?=
In-Reply-To: <1400704177884.70614@cactus.dk>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<1400702984.406852401@f203.i.mail.ru>
	<1400704177884.70614@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1400709771.394968683@f228.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, your monitor price looks comparable to the DELL one, actually Philips 272C4QPJKAB/00 is?~USD100 cheaper here than  Dell UltraSharp U2913WM? .

As for?2560 x 1080 resolution for 29inch DELL vs.?h 2560 x 1440 resolution for 27inch Philips - the latter one seems to be preferable for software development tasks?
And Philips seems to be using two+ times less energy - 38 WATT vs. 90 WATT.
And Philips has embedded web cam, speakers, two HDMI ports but it doesn' have USB ports....

But DELL is larger with sides ratio 21:9 vs. 16:9 for Philips...

BTW, I'm planning to attach the monitor to my laptop? ASUS?N76VZ with? NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. Would that video card be enough for the subject DELL or Philips monitors?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wed, 21 May 2014 20:29:38 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>It was an "old" model being sold out: PHILIPS No. 272C4QPJKAB/00
>At about EUR 320 excl. VAT
>
>/gustav
>
>________________________________________
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 22:09
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>Philips should be expensive?
>What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440 which I like very much.
>>
>>/gustav
>>________________________________________
>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen <  marklbreen at gmail.com >
>>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>
>>Hello Shamil,
>>
>>I think that is is
>>
>>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
>>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
>>love it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello Mark --
>>>
>>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>>>
>>> How about this one? Anybody?
>>>
>>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
>>> Exchange Warranty
>>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> -- Shamil
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu May 22 01:37:48 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 06:37:48 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
In-Reply-To: <1400709771.394968683@f228.i.mail.ru>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<1400702984.406852401@f203.i.mail.ru>
	<1400704177884.70614@cactus.dk>,<1400709771.394968683@f228.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1a5e74a4ed414dc58afce1ba83bcf1a4@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

Yes, many things to consider.
I don't have the specifications for your grafics card.

/gustav
________________________________
Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: ?22-?05-?2014 00:03
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB

Hi Gustav --

Yes, your monitor price looks comparable to the DELL one, actually Philips 272C4QPJKAB/00 is ~USD100 cheaper here than  Dell UltraSharp U2913WM  .

As for 2560 x 1080 resolution for 29inch DELL vs. h 2560 x 1440 resolution for 27inch Philips - the latter one seems to be preferable for software development tasks?
And Philips seems to be using two+ times less energy - 38 WATT vs. 90 WATT.
And Philips has embedded web cam, speakers, two HDMI ports but it doesn' have USB ports....

But DELL is larger with sides ratio 21:9 vs. 16:9 for Philips...

BTW, I'm planning to attach the monitor to my laptop  ASUS N76VZ with  NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. Would that video card be enough for the subject DELL or Philips monitors?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wed, 21 May 2014 20:29:38 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>It was an "old" model being sold out: PHILIPS No. 272C4QPJKAB/00
>At about EUR 320 excl. VAT
>
>/gustav
>
>________________________________________
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 22:09
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>
> Hi Gustav --
>
>Philips should be expensive?
>What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440 which I like very much.
>>
>>/gustav
>>________________________________________
>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen <  marklbreen at gmail.com >
>>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>
>>Hello Shamil,
>>
>>I think that is is
>>
>>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
>>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
>>love it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello Mark --
>>>
>>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>>>
>>> How about this one? Anybody?
>>>
>>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
>>> Exchange Warranty
>>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> -- Shamil
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Thu May 22 02:55:09 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 08:55:09 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
In-Reply-To: <1400709771.394968683@f228.i.mail.ru>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<1400702984.406852401@f203.i.mail.ru>
	<1400704177884.70614@cactus.dk> <1400709771.394968683@f228.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCheoNYinTG8t0PXUbhfDOs3N2Ny_JPkKae29yOYwybA+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Shamil,

I can confirm that my laptop can output 2560 x 1080.

Also, I was always reluctant to use 1080 height, even in the '90s I had
1600 x 1200 but since I switched to 1080, I do not notice the missing
height.

Ther is also a dell monitor that is square and is 30" and costs almost
?1000.  This does 2560 x 1600.  That would be nice but it is very expensive.

Mark




On 21 May 2014 23:02, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Hi Gustav --
>
> Yes, your monitor price looks comparable to the DELL one, actually Philips
> 272C4QPJKAB/00 is ~USD100 cheaper here than  Dell UltraSharp U2913WM  .
>
> As for 2560 x 1080 resolution for 29inch DELL vs. h 2560 x 1440 resolution
> for 27inch Philips - the latter one seems to be preferable for software
> development tasks?
> And Philips seems to be using two+ times less energy - 38 WATT vs. 90 WATT.
> And Philips has embedded web cam, speakers, two HDMI ports but it doesn'
> have USB ports....
>
> But DELL is larger with sides ratio 21:9 vs. 16:9 for Philips...
>
> BTW, I'm planning to attach the monitor to my laptop  ASUS N76VZ with
> NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. Would that video card be enough for the subject
> DELL or Philips monitors?
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
>
> Wed, 21 May 2014 20:29:38 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
> >Hi Shamil
> >
> >It was an "old" model being sold out: PHILIPS No. 272C4QPJKAB/00
> >At about EUR 320 excl. VAT
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >________________________________________
> >Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
> < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
> >Sendt: 21. maj 2014 22:09
> >Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> >Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
> >
> > Hi Gustav --
> >
> >Philips should be expensive?
> >What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >-- Shamil
> >
> >
> >Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
> >>Hi Shamil
> >>
> >>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440
> which I like very much.
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>________________________________________
> >>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen <
> marklbreen at gmail.com >
> >>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
> >>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> >>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
> >>
> >>Hello Shamil,
> >>
> >>I think that is is
> >>
> >>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.
>  I
> >>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
> >>love it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
> >>
> >>>  Hello Mark --
> >>>
> >>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
> >>>
> >>> How about this one? Anybody?
> >>>
> >>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
> >>> Exchange Warranty
> >>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> -- Shamil
> >_______________________________________________
> >dba-Tech mailing list
> >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu May 22 08:49:40 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 09:49:40 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Chinese government bans Windows 8 in government
	departments
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j82USWzgB=Gbs_V-RcHhOb9sN=2NsNX0fkQDprjUNw6g@mail.gmail.com>

Given the little diplomatic jousting over cyber-war, culminating in the
charges against a half-dozen senior military officers for cyber-espionage,
the ban against use of Windows 8 is well-timed if not surprising.

More interesting IMO is China's embrace of Linux, especially for its
servers and big data centers, with growth in 2013 at 33%. No doubt the
adoption rate would be even higher if companies did not have to build the
eco-systems themselves. This from a story in Wired:

That?s why IBM, in collaboration with Red Hat and SUSE, recently unveiled its
first Power Systems Linux Center in
China<http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/41040.wss>.
The movement towards pre-integrated systems and robust development on Linux
is only going to continue to rapidly grow around the world, as
organizations seek higher utilization, better resiliency and stronger
security as they leverage new computing abilities.

China has a unique set of enterprise computing challenges with massive
changes underway in their financial services, transportation, retail and
communications industries. As Linux continues to advance in the country,
we?ll see potential for new open source innovations that can be replicated
around the world.

-- 
Arthur

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu May 22 10:37:03 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 19:37:03 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Attaching_14_Monitors_on_Windows_8=2E1_with_?=
 =?utf-8?q?USB?=
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCheoNYinTG8t0PXUbhfDOs3N2Ny_JPkKae29yOYwybA+A@mail.gmail.com>
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 Hello Mark --

I will probably purchase DELL 2560 x 1080 as yours.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Thu, 22 May 2014 08:55:09 +0100 from Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com>
>Hello Shamil,
>
>I can confirm that my laptop can output 2560 x 1080.
>
>Also, I was always reluctant to use 1080 height, even in the '90s I had
>1600 x 1200 but since I switched to 1080, I do not notice the missing
>height.
>
>Ther is also a dell monitor that is square and is 30" and costs almost
>?1000.  This does 2560 x 1600.  That would be nice but it is very expensive.
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>
>On 21 May 2014 23:02, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>
>>  Hi Gustav --
>>
>> Yes, your monitor price looks comparable to the DELL one, actually Philips
>> 272C4QPJKAB/00 is ~USD100 cheaper here than  Dell UltraSharp U2913WM  .
>>
>> As for 2560 x 1080 resolution for 29inch DELL vs. h 2560 x 1440 resolution
>> for 27inch Philips - the latter one seems to be preferable for software
>> development tasks?
>> And Philips seems to be using two+ times less energy - 38 WATT vs. 90 WATT.
>> And Philips has embedded web cam, speakers, two HDMI ports but it doesn'
>> have USB ports....
>>
>> But DELL is larger with sides ratio 21:9 vs. 16:9 for Philips...
>>
>> BTW, I'm planning to attach the monitor to my laptop  ASUS N76VZ with
>> NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. Would that video card be enough for the subject
>> DELL or Philips monitors?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>>
>> Wed, 21 May 2014 20:29:38 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>> >Hi Shamil
>> >
>> >It was an "old" model being sold out: PHILIPS No. 272C4QPJKAB/00
>> >At about EUR 320 excl. VAT
>> >
>> >/gustav
>> >
>> >________________________________________
>> >Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <
>>  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>> <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>> >Sendt: 21. maj 2014 22:09
>> >Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> >Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>> >
>> > Hi Gustav --
>> >
>> >Philips should be expensive?
>> >What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?
>> >
>> >Thank you.
>> >
>> >-- Shamil
>> >
>> >
>> >Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock <  gustav at cactus.dk >:
>> >>Hi Shamil
>> >>
>> >>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440
>> which I like very much.
>> >>
>> >>/gustav
>> >>________________________________________
>> >>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <
>>  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen <
>>  marklbreen at gmail.com >
>> >>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
>> >>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> >>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>> >>
>> >>Hello Shamil,
>> >>
>> >>I think that is is
>> >>
>> >>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.
>>  I
>> >>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
>> >>love it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>  Hello Mark --
>> >>>
>> >>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>> >>>
>> >>> How about this one? Anybody?
>> >>>
>> >>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
>> >>> Exchange Warranty
>> >>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you.
>> >>>
>> >>> -- Shamil
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >dba-Tech mailing list
>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu May 22 10:41:41 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 19:41:41 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Attaching_14_Monitors_on_Windows_8=2E1_with_?=
 =?utf-8?q?USB?=
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Message-ID: <1400773301.625163770@f343.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

My laptop has?NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M graphics card.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html

AFAIS it should work well with ?2560 x 1440 resolution.
But I'm currently going to get purchased DELL with 2560 x 1080 screen resolution.
It's cheaper here, and I see quite some good reviews.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Thu, 22 May 2014 06:37:48 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>Yes, many things to consider.
>I don't have the specifications for your grafics card.
>
>/gustav
>________________________________
>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: ?22-?05-?2014 00:03
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>
>Hi Gustav --
>
>Yes, your monitor price looks comparable to the DELL one, actually Philips 272C4QPJKAB/00 is ~USD100 cheaper here than  Dell UltraSharp U2913WM  .
>
>As for 2560 x 1080 resolution for 29inch DELL vs. h 2560 x 1440 resolution for 27inch Philips - the latter one seems to be preferable for software development tasks?
>And Philips seems to be using two+ times less energy - 38 WATT vs. 90 WATT.
>And Philips has embedded web cam, speakers, two HDMI ports but it doesn' have USB ports....
>
>But DELL is larger with sides ratio 21:9 vs. 16:9 for Philips...
>
>BTW, I'm planning to attach the monitor to my laptop  ASUS N76VZ with  NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. Would that video card be enough for the subject DELL or Philips monitors?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Wed, 21 May 2014 20:29:38 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>It was an "old" model being sold out: PHILIPS No. 272C4QPJKAB/00
>>At about EUR 320 excl. VAT
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>________________________________________
>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 22:09
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>
>> Hi Gustav --
>>
>>Philips should be expensive?
>>What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock <  gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>>Hi Shamil
>>>
>>>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440 which I like very much.
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>________________________________________
>>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen <  marklbreen at gmail.com >
>>>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>>
>>>Hello Shamil,
>>>
>>>I think that is is
>>>
>>>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
>>>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
>>>love it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hello Mark --
>>>>
>>>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>>>>
>>>> How about this one? Anybody?
>>>>
>>>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
>>>> Exchange Warranty
>>>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> -- Shamil
>>_______________________________________________
>>dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 22 12:48:07 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 11:48:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers
In-Reply-To: <1400693552421.61306@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1357592636.52293115.1400780887052.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

Regardless of how a printer is being access through the web it must be hosted somewhere on the web by some company. I know little of the process for hosting/printing from tablets and smartphones other than I have a Google Print setup (http://www.google.ca/cloudprint/learn ...and... https://support.google.com/cloudprint/answer/1686197?rd=1) but I have never used it.

When I worked with print sharing across the web, it was for companies (mostly financial companies) who had all their staff within a VPN. Within the VPN all printers, of the entire company could be easily accessed. There was methods for accessing their printers from outside the VPN via an appropriate sub domain web page. To get to into the page an appropriate username and password were needed...it was complex, continually changing, had a timeout and through-put set and limited login attempts. Once attached I could add that printer to my printers option. From there it was easy to print reports and invoices to the back east IT and Accounts department.

Their security on the printers may have been a little over board as printers were hosted on a sub-domain and anyone gaining access would have no ability to "leap-frog" or do anything other printing.

Jim     

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:32:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Jim

I wouldn't dare to use a public hostname as is, also I can't imagine it would work from iPads and phones. I think you need a "middle-man".

The NetWare server has been fully replaced. File and print was moved a couple of years ago to Windows 2003 R2/2008 R2 servers with DFS replication and lately to 2008 R2/2012 R2.
GroupWise was moved to Office 365 earlier this year and web server recently to our in-house IIS.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 20. maj 2014 19:46
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Gustav:

I have not done a lot of this but on both Windows and Linux systems you can set your printer's share up so they share to the web. The one thing needed is a domain and the DNS setup. (I have been using ZoneEdit for years as they allow finer data management and flow control than most domain hosts and for a single domain it is free: http://www.zoneedit.com)

When I was working, I would just print my documentation and invoices directly to my client's printers. I would not reciprocate as one major job sent from a contractor or client, to my system, could use all my paper and ink. It also works easier with a printer that has its own IP address then much external access, security and management can be setup right in the router. (All the banks that I working in did this with all their printer.)

I did setup remote printing on a Ubuntu box recently and as I recall it was a fairly straight forward process...it would be logical to assume Windows would be equally as easy.

Aside: Maybe things with Windows desktop pass-through printing has improved but in the past it was such a unreliable PITA. Give me Netware, a Linux box or a server of any kind.

Aside: Are you in the process of building your Netware replacement?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:40:17 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi all

When you have Windows Server 2012 as print server, how do you manage and offer printing for non-Windows devices like iPads and Android tablets?
AirPrint is not an option as this is Apple only.

I have tested HP ePrint service which is way too slow (may delay print output by 15 minuttes) and Microsoft Internet Print which, however, is for Windows only.

I've also checked EveryonePrint which is quite different but seems to work:

http://www.everyoneprint.com/everyoneprint-for-business/feature-tour/how-users-print-business/

Other suggestions or experiences?

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 22 14:06:25 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 13:06:25 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Chinese government bans Windows 8 in
	government	departments
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If China, ever wants to go its own way and not be directed and totally dependant on foreign governments they will have to set up an infrastructure that is built upon a system that is fully Open Sourced. Already many of the latest OSS products available have been co-written by Chinese nationals. Most of the major products out there have been assembled by techs from all over the world. Central depositories like GitHub have even gone so far as to remove any references to a developers country of origin so to stop political inference in OS application design. (The US government has tried to stop such collaborations, like with Iranian or Chinese programmers but are getting little or no help from the OSS community.) 
 
Interesting to note that the most powerful super computer in the world, by far, was built, in China using multiple Ubuntu Linux servers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2)...an OS you could easily run on your desktop... (Now think of Windows 8x. ;-))  

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:49:40 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Chinese government bans Windows 8 in government	departments

Given the little diplomatic jousting over cyber-war, culminating in the
charges against a half-dozen senior military officers for cyber-espionage,
the ban against use of Windows 8 is well-timed if not surprising.

More interesting IMO is China's embrace of Linux, especially for its
servers and big data centers, with growth in 2013 at 33%. No doubt the
adoption rate would be even higher if companies did not have to build the
eco-systems themselves. This from a story in Wired:

That?s why IBM, in collaboration with Red Hat and SUSE, recently unveiled its
first Power Systems Linux Center in
China<http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/41040.wss>.
The movement towards pre-integrated systems and robust development on Linux
is only going to continue to rapidly grow around the world, as
organizations seek higher utilization, better resiliency and stronger
security as they leverage new computing abilities.

China has a unique set of enterprise computing challenges with massive
changes underway in their financial services, transportation, retail and
communications industries. As Linux continues to advance in the country,
we?ll see potential for new open source innovations that can be replicated
around the world.

-- 
Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May 23 01:35:43 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 06:35:43 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
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Hi Shamil

THAT is widescreen!

/gustav

Sendt fra min Nokia Lumia
________________________________
Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: ?22-?05-?2014 17:42
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB

Hi Gustav --

My laptop has NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M graphics card.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html

AFAIS it should work well with  2560 x 1440 resolution.
But I'm currently going to get purchased DELL with 2560 x 1080 screen resolution.
It's cheaper here, and I see quite some good reviews.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Thu, 22 May 2014 06:37:48 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>Yes, many things to consider.
>I don't have the specifications for your grafics card.
>
>/gustav
>________________________________
>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: ?22-?05-?2014 00:03
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>
>Hi Gustav --
>
>Yes, your monitor price looks comparable to the DELL one, actually Philips 272C4QPJKAB/00 is ~USD100 cheaper here than  Dell UltraSharp U2913WM  .
>
>As for 2560 x 1080 resolution for 29inch DELL vs. h 2560 x 1440 resolution for 27inch Philips - the latter one seems to be preferable for software development tasks?
>And Philips seems to be using two+ times less energy - 38 WATT vs. 90 WATT.
>And Philips has embedded web cam, speakers, two HDMI ports but it doesn' have USB ports....
>
>But DELL is larger with sides ratio 21:9 vs. 16:9 for Philips...
>
>BTW, I'm planning to attach the monitor to my laptop  ASUS N76VZ with  NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. Would that video card be enough for the subject DELL or Philips monitors?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Wed, 21 May 2014 20:29:38 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>It was an "old" model being sold out: PHILIPS No. 272C4QPJKAB/00
>>At about EUR 320 excl. VAT
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>________________________________________
>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 22:09
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>
>> Hi Gustav --
>>
>>Philips should be expensive?
>>What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock <  gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>>Hi Shamil
>>>
>>>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440 which I like very much.
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>________________________________________
>>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen <  marklbreen at gmail.com >
>>>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>>
>>>Hello Shamil,
>>>
>>>I think that is is
>>>
>>>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
>>>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
>>>love it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hello Mark --
>>>>
>>>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>>>>
>>>> How about this one? Anybody?
>>>>
>>>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
>>>> Exchange Warranty
>>>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> -- Shamil
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri May 23 04:09:00 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 13:09:00 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Attaching_14_Monitors_on_Windows_8=2E1_with_?=
 =?utf-8?q?USB?=
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 Hi Gustav --

Well, it's "just" 6 cm wider and 9 cm lower

699.8 ? 317 ? 61.2 ?? - DELL?U2913WM

639 ? ? 405 ? 64 ?? -??PHILIPS?272C4QPJKAB/00

Anyway, I will first try to check how it will work with my laptop - DELL monitor is in the same shop where I have got my laptop purchased.

BTW, the prices are "strange" here - a discounter shop sells PHILIPS?272C4QPJKAB/00 100+ USD (~USD600) cheaper than?DELL?U2913WM(~USD700), and the shop, where I have got my laptop purchased sells?DELL?U2913WM 100++USD (~USD570) cheaper than discounter shop, and the latter doesn't have?PHILIPS?272C4QPJKAB/00 at all.

-- Shamil

Fri, 23 May 2014 06:35:43 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>THAT is widescreen!
>
>/gustav
>
>Sendt fra min Nokia Lumia
>________________________________
>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: ?22-?05-?2014 17:42
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>
>Hi Gustav --
>
>My laptop has NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M graphics card.
>
>http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html
>
>AFAIS it should work well with  2560 x 1440 resolution.
>But I'm currently going to get purchased DELL with 2560 x 1080 screen resolution.
>It's cheaper here, and I see quite some good reviews.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>Thu, 22 May 2014 06:37:48 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>Yes, many things to consider.
>>I don't have the specifications for your grafics card.
>>
>>/gustav
>>________________________________
>>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>Sendt: ?22-?05-?2014 00:03
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>
>>Hi Gustav --
>>
>>Yes, your monitor price looks comparable to the DELL one, actually Philips 272C4QPJKAB/00 is ~USD100 cheaper here than  Dell UltraSharp U2913WM  .
>>
>>As for 2560 x 1080 resolution for 29inch DELL vs. h 2560 x 1440 resolution for 27inch Philips - the latter one seems to be preferable for software development tasks?
>>And Philips seems to be using two+ times less energy - 38 WATT vs. 90 WATT.
>>And Philips has embedded web cam, speakers, two HDMI ports but it doesn' have USB ports....
>>
>>But DELL is larger with sides ratio 21:9 vs. 16:9 for Philips...
>>
>>BTW, I'm planning to attach the monitor to my laptop  ASUS N76VZ with  NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. Would that video card be enough for the subject DELL or Philips monitors?
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Wed, 21 May 2014 20:29:38 +0000 from Gustav Brock <  gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>>Hi Shamil
>>>
>>>It was an "old" model being sold out: PHILIPS No. 272C4QPJKAB/00
>>>At about EUR 320 excl. VAT
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>
>>>________________________________________
>>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 22:09
>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>>
>>> Hi Gustav --
>>>
>>>Philips should be expensive?
>>>What is the price of your monitor and what is its model?
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>>
>>>-- Shamil
>>>
>>>
>>>Wed, 21 May 2014 17:39:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock <  gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>>>Hi Shamil
>>>>
>>>>I think it is optimized for video. My Philips 27" runs with 2560 x 1440 which I like very much.
>>>>
>>>>/gustav
>>>>________________________________________
>>>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Mark Breen <  marklbreen at gmail.com >
>>>>Sendt: 21. maj 2014 11:54
>>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>>>>
>>>>Hello Shamil,
>>>>
>>>>I think that is is
>>>>
>>>>the important thing is the 2560 x 1080 resolution.  It is really great.  I
>>>>went from 2 x 27inch and 1 x 24 inch monitors on my desk to only one, I
>>>>love it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 21 May 2014 08:24, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hello Mark --
>>>>>
>>>>> What 29 inch DELL monitor do you use there?
>>>>>
>>>>> How about this one? Anybody?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dell UltraSharp U2913WM - LED monitor - 29" - with 3-Years Advanced
>>>>> Exchange Warranty
>>>>>  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9KEKKU
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Shamil

From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May 23 10:19:42 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 15:19:42 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
In-Reply-To: <1400836140.298109826@f232.i.mail.ru>
References: <1396722699.395234042@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<1400773301.625163770@f343.i.mail.ru>
	<b8bccba903404ebebea6bc29b3cdbe1b@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1400836140.298109826@f232.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <ba90a53e2c124d3880d5c2576ed06659@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

Sounds like a good offer - it pays to shop around.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 23. maj 2014 11:09
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB

 Hi Gustav --

Well, it's "just" 6 cm wider and 9 cm lower

699.8 ? 317 ? 61.2 ?? - DELL?U2913WM

639 ? ? 405 ? 64 ?? -??PHILIPS?272C4QPJKAB/00

Anyway, I will first try to check how it will work with my laptop - DELL monitor is in the same shop where I have got my laptop purchased.

BTW, the prices are "strange" here - a discounter shop sells PHILIPS?272C4QPJKAB/00 100+ USD (~USD600) cheaper than?DELL?U2913WM(~USD700), and the shop, where I have got my laptop purchased sells?DELL?U2913WM 100++USD (~USD570) cheaper than discounter shop, and the latter doesn't have?PHILIPS?272C4QPJKAB/00 at all.

-- Shamil

Fri, 23 May 2014 06:35:43 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>THAT is widescreen!
>
>/gustav
>
>Sendt fra min Nokia Lumia
>________________________________
>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: ?22-?05-?2014 17:42
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: 
>dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Attaching 14 Monitors on Windows 8.1 with USB
>
>Hi Gustav --
>
>My laptop has NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M graphics card.
>
>http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html
>
>AFAIS it should work well with  2560 x 1440 resolution.
>But I'm currently going to get purchased DELL with 2560 x 1080 screen resolution.
>It's cheaper here, and I see quite some good reviews.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May 23 10:47:13 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 15:47:13 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line
Message-ID: <431546fcef4f4e48ac9d73a0c17d0679@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

Bring your Excel workbook to your website for interactive use. This is an offer from Microsoft free to use:

http://www.excelmashup.com/

/gustav


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri May 23 13:51:33 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:51:33 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux equivalent of SharePoint?
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hbbAoV_yfhhxqS+70PzSUexmcC7sX2M_xcs2USpwgW+g@mail.gmail.com>

Is there anything equivalent to SharePoint that runs on Linux?

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 23 16:07:26 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 15:07:26 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line
In-Reply-To: <431546fcef4f4e48ac9d73a0c17d0679@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1310452007.53289665.1400879246182.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

That looks very interesting.

Does the following describe the product; If you had Office 365 then you would be able to export spreadsheets into inter-active inserts within your own web site.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 8:47:13 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi all

Bring your Excel workbook to your website for interactive use. This is an offer from Microsoft free to use:

http://www.excelmashup.com/

/gustav

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri May 23 16:14:55 2014
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 16:14:55 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux equivalent of SharePoint?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hbbAoV_yfhhxqS+70PzSUexmcC7sX2M_xcs2USpwgW+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hbbAoV_yfhhxqS+70PzSUexmcC7sX2M_xcs2USpwgW+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <537FBA4F.20400@earthlink.net>

On 2014-05-23 1:51 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Is there anything equivalent to SharePoint that runs on Linux?

http://www.maketecheasier.com/5-free-alternatives-to-microsoft-sharepoint/
http://smartdocumentmanagement.athento.com/2013/05/nuxeo-and-alfresco-the-two-main-alternatives-to-sharepoint.html

PB

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 23 17:25:14 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 16:25:14 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux equivalent of SharePoint?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hbbAoV_yfhhxqS+70PzSUexmcC7sX2M_xcs2USpwgW+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1002597237.53342318.1400883914240.JavaMail.root@cds018>

I don't know...why would you need it and what niche does it solve?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:51:33 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux equivalent of SharePoint?

Is there anything equivalent to SharePoint that runs on Linux?

-- 
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 23 17:49:50 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 16:49:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux equivalent of SharePoint?
In-Reply-To: <537FBA4F.20400@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1603803785.53355580.1400885390378.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Peter:

Good reference material.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 2:14:55 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Linux equivalent of SharePoint?

On 2014-05-23 1:51 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Is there anything equivalent to SharePoint that runs on Linux?

http://www.maketecheasier.com/5-free-alternatives-to-microsoft-sharepoint/
http://smartdocumentmanagement.athento.com/2013/05/nuxeo-and-alfresco-the-two-main-alternatives-to-sharepoint.html

PB
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 23 19:19:13 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 18:19:13 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] An open source laptop
In-Reply-To: <431546fcef4f4e48ac9d73a0c17d0679@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <2092564739.53402526.1400890753054.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Given the success of the RaspberryPi one hacker has taken the concept to the next level by designing and building his own product completely OS.

This is a crowd-funded project and has reached its goal by 280 percent.

https://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop

It might be a little pricey but considering, if you do buy the laptop, you are getting a custom made open product.

Jim  


From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat May 24 04:53:57 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 09:53:57 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line
In-Reply-To: <1310452007.53289665.1400879246182.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <431546fcef4f4e48ac9d73a0c17d0679@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<1310452007.53289665.1400879246182.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1400925236925.60746@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

As I see it, all this is needed is an Excel file stored in a OneDrive folder and a web page:

http://www.excelmashup.com/Content/MashupHowTo.html

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 23. maj 2014 23:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi Gustav:

That looks very interesting.

Does the following describe the product; If you had Office 365 then you would be able to export spreadsheets into inter-active inserts within your own web site.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 8:47:13 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi all

Bring your Excel workbook to your website for interactive use. This is an offer from Microsoft free to use:

http://www.excelmashup.com/

/gustav


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat May 24 05:48:50 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 06:48:50 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cloud computing aka "The future is trying to kill you"
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gxesFJbVGGPxhwvWp+mvACiMdu92P2bRtVnagqQi2Zew@mail.gmail.com>

There's a provocative piece in The Register today called that. The subtitle
is "The brutal tech truth that links the problems of Rackspace, Dell, HP.
IBM, Oracle, SAP, others."

What do all ailing enterprise IT companies have in common? Trouble in their
core businesses due to the rise of cloud computing.

For more, visit theregister.co.uk and search for the subject of this
message.

-- 
Arthur

From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat May 24 09:32:34 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 14:32:34 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers
In-Reply-To: <1357592636.52293115.1400780887052.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1400693552421.61306@cactus.dk>,
	<1357592636.52293115.1400780887052.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1400941953719.91218@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Google Print seems to Work, but you need a Google account for the purpose and for administration:

https://support.google.com/a/answer/3179170

You install Chrome on the print server - the quick method is to download from here: 

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=en

Next, install Google Cloud Print Connector (near bottom, must be done with Chrome):

http://www.google.nl/intl/en/cloudprint/learn/apps.html

It creates a shortcut on the Desktop.

The printer are listed at once, including XPS which can't be used as it requests a file name from a popup window.

Later, the printers are managed from here (Chrome not needed):

https://www.google.com/cloudprint/

A printer can be marked as Public and then gets assigned a URL like:

https://www.google.com/cloudprint/addpublicprinter.html?printerid=817d46ae-ce4c-7ddc-0909a-b6062ba8d1fe&key=1477307500

For Windows Phone there is a cheap klient:

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/kumoprint/fccd095d-d491-4a6d-9c30-0f3ec0576576

which seems to work.
 
/gustav 

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 22. maj 2014 19:48
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Gustav:

Regardless of how a printer is being access through the web it must be hosted somewhere on the web by some company. I know little of the process for hosting/printing from tablets and smartphones other than I have a Google Print setup (http://www.google.ca/cloudprint/learn ...and... https://support.google.com/cloudprint/answer/1686197?rd=1) but I have never used it.

When I worked with print sharing across the web, it was for companies (mostly financial companies) who had all their staff within a VPN. Within the VPN all printers, of the entire company could be easily accessed. There was methods for accessing their printers from outside the VPN via an appropriate sub domain web page. To get to into the page an appropriate username and password were needed...it was complex, continually changing, had a timeout and through-put set and limited login attempts. Once attached I could add that printer to my printers option. From there it was easy to print reports and invoices to the back east IT and Accounts department.

Their security on the printers may have been a little over board as printers were hosted on a sub-domain and anyone gaining access would have no ability to "leap-frog" or do anything other printing.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:32:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Jim

I wouldn't dare to use a public hostname as is, also I can't imagine it would work from iPads and phones. I think you need a "middle-man".

The NetWare server has been fully replaced. File and print was moved a couple of years ago to Windows 2003 R2/2008 R2 servers with DFS replication and lately to 2008 R2/2012 R2.
GroupWise was moved to Office 365 earlier this year and web server recently to our in-house IIS.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 20. maj 2014 19:46
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Gustav:

I have not done a lot of this but on both Windows and Linux systems you can set your printer's share up so they share to the web. The one thing needed is a domain and the DNS setup. (I have been using ZoneEdit for years as they allow finer data management and flow control than most domain hosts and for a single domain it is free: http://www.zoneedit.com)

When I was working, I would just print my documentation and invoices directly to my client's printers. I would not reciprocate as one major job sent from a contractor or client, to my system, could use all my paper and ink. It also works easier with a printer that has its own IP address then much external access, security and management can be setup right in the router. (All the banks that I working in did this with all their printer.)

I did setup remote printing on a Ubuntu box recently and as I recall it was a fairly straight forward process...it would be logical to assume Windows would be equally as easy.

Aside: Maybe things with Windows desktop pass-through printing has improved but in the past it was such a unreliable PITA. Give me Netware, a Linux box or a server of any kind.

Aside: Are you in the process of building your Netware replacement?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:40:17 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi all

When you have Windows Server 2012 as print server, how do you manage and offer printing for non-Windows devices like iPads and Android tablets?
AirPrint is not an option as this is Apple only.

I have tested HP ePrint service which is way too slow (may delay print output by 15 minuttes) and Microsoft Internet Print which, however, is for Windows only.

I've also checked EveryonePrint which is quite different but seems to work:

http://www.everyoneprint.com/everyoneprint-for-business/feature-tour/how-users-print-business/

Other suggestions or experiences?

/gustav


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat May 24 10:28:16 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 09:28:16 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line
In-Reply-To: <1400925236925.60746@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <939357225.53683945.1400945296399.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

Now I am intrigued.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 2:53:57 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi Jim

As I see it, all this is needed is an Excel file stored in a OneDrive folder and a web page:

http://www.excelmashup.com/Content/MashupHowTo.html

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 23. maj 2014 23:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi Gustav:

That looks very interesting.

Does the following describe the product; If you had Office 365 then you would be able to export spreadsheets into inter-active inserts within your own web site.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 8:47:13 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi all

Bring your Excel workbook to your website for interactive use. This is an offer from Microsoft free to use:

http://www.excelmashup.com/

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat May 24 10:54:40 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 09:54:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line
In-Reply-To: <431546fcef4f4e48ac9d73a0c17d0679@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1611444874.53700742.1400946880090.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

PS Isn't Microsoft also making ASP.Net and OSS project.

http://sdt.bz/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=71227&page=1

...and...

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/IntroducingASPNETVNext.aspx

also MS may be creating a web based Windows OS:

http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/new-evidence-microsoft-preparing-cloud-based-windows-os

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 8:47:13 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi all

Bring your Excel workbook to your website for interactive use. This is an offer from Microsoft free to use:

http://www.excelmashup.com/

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat May 24 11:18:17 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 10:18:17 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cloud computing aka "The future is trying to kill
 you"
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gxesFJbVGGPxhwvWp+mvACiMdu92P2bRtVnagqQi2Zew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1773035541.53715954.1400948297968.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Arthur:

I have been hearing about that for a while. There is now so little margins on software (much of it is free), support services are very competitive and add to the woes where Cloud rates have been plunging. The little companies are far less vulnerable while large businesses that have to support a huge infrastructure in buildings and multiple levels of managers, will have problems. I would suspect that some of the companies that you have named will have to seriously change the way they do business or disappear. 

Check out Jeremy Rifkin: "The Zero Marginal Cost Society" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-iDUcETjvo ...very interesting.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:48:50 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cloud computing aka "The future is trying to kill you"

There's a provocative piece in The Register today called that. The subtitle
is "The brutal tech truth that links the problems of Rackspace, Dell, HP.
IBM, Oracle, SAP, others."

What do all ailing enterprise IT companies have in common? Trouble in their
core businesses due to the rise of cloud computing.

For more, visit theregister.co.uk and search for the subject of this
message.

-- 
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat May 24 11:42:24 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 10:42:24 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers
In-Reply-To: <1400941953719.91218@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <2066604042.53726780.1400949744813.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

Excellent work there Gustav! :-) I can now put this information aside until I have to implement it.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:32:34 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Jim

Google Print seems to Work, but you need a Google account for the purpose and for administration:

https://support.google.com/a/answer/3179170

You install Chrome on the print server - the quick method is to download from here: 

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=en

Next, install Google Cloud Print Connector (near bottom, must be done with Chrome):

http://www.google.nl/intl/en/cloudprint/learn/apps.html

It creates a shortcut on the Desktop.

The printer are listed at once, including XPS which can't be used as it requests a file name from a popup window.

Later, the printers are managed from here (Chrome not needed):

https://www.google.com/cloudprint/

A printer can be marked as Public and then gets assigned a URL like:

https://www.google.com/cloudprint/addpublicprinter.html?printerid=817d46ae-ce4c-7ddc-0909a-b6062ba8d1fe&key=1477307500

For Windows Phone there is a cheap klient:

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/kumoprint/fccd095d-d491-4a6d-9c30-0f3ec0576576

which seems to work.
 
/gustav 

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Sendt: 22. maj 2014 19:48
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Gustav:

Regardless of how a printer is being access through the web it must be hosted somewhere on the web by some company. I know little of the process for hosting/printing from tablets and smartphones other than I have a Google Print setup (http://www.google.ca/cloudprint/learn ...and... https://support.google.com/cloudprint/answer/1686197?rd=1) but I have never used it.

When I worked with print sharing across the web, it was for companies (mostly financial companies) who had all their staff within a VPN. Within the VPN all printers, of the entire company could be easily accessed. There was methods for accessing their printers from outside the VPN via an appropriate sub domain web page. To get to into the page an appropriate username and password were needed...it was complex, continually changing, had a timeout and through-put set and limited login attempts. Once attached I could add that printer to my printers option. From there it was easy to print reports and invoices to the back east IT and Accounts department.

Their security on the printers may have been a little over board as printers were hosted on a sub-domain and anyone gaining access would have no ability to "leap-frog" or do anything other printing.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:32:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Jim

I wouldn't dare to use a public hostname as is, also I can't imagine it would work from iPads and phones. I think you need a "middle-man".

The NetWare server has been fully replaced. File and print was moved a couple of years ago to Windows 2003 R2/2008 R2 servers with DFS replication and lately to 2008 R2/2012 R2.
GroupWise was moved to Office 365 earlier this year and web server recently to our in-house IIS.

/gustav
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Sendt: 20. maj 2014 19:46
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi Gustav:

I have not done a lot of this but on both Windows and Linux systems you can set your printer's share up so they share to the web. The one thing needed is a domain and the DNS setup. (I have been using ZoneEdit for years as they allow finer data management and flow control than most domain hosts and for a single domain it is free: http://www.zoneedit.com)

When I was working, I would just print my documentation and invoices directly to my client's printers. I would not reciprocate as one major job sent from a contractor or client, to my system, could use all my paper and ink. It also works easier with a printer that has its own IP address then much external access, security and management can be setup right in the router. (All the banks that I working in did this with all their printer.)

I did setup remote printing on a Ubuntu box recently and as I recall it was a fairly straight forward process...it would be logical to assume Windows would be equally as easy.

Aside: Maybe things with Windows desktop pass-through printing has improved but in the past it was such a unreliable PITA. Give me Netware, a Linux box or a server of any kind.

Aside: Are you in the process of building your Netware replacement?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:40:17 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] BYOD printing using Windows 2012 print servers

Hi all

When you have Windows Server 2012 as print server, how do you manage and offer printing for non-Windows devices like iPads and Android tablets?
AirPrint is not an option as this is Apple only.

I have tested HP ePrint service which is way too slow (may delay print output by 15 minuttes) and Microsoft Internet Print which, however, is for Windows only.

I've also checked EveryonePrint which is quite different but seems to work:

http://www.everyoneprint.com/everyoneprint-for-business/feature-tour/how-users-print-business/

Other suggestions or experiences?

/gustav

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat May 24 11:55:00 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 12:55:00 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cloud computing aka "The future is trying to kill
	you"
In-Reply-To: <1773035541.53715954.1400948297968.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <CAEPJO1gxesFJbVGGPxhwvWp+mvACiMdu92P2bRtVnagqQi2Zew@mail.gmail.com>
	<1773035541.53715954.1400948297968.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jVzUkDVV35qDWhEMK1gvXds3L7dHvYERhJquCPn1W6ZA@mail.gmail.com>

I've watched that Rifkin vid already. To tell the truth, I found the
companion one listed on my sidebar, by Noam Chomsky, much more provocative,
although addressing another subject.

Arthur


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> I have been hearing about that for a while. There is now so little margins
> on software (much of it is free), support services are very competitive and
> add to the woes where Cloud rates have been plunging. The little companies
> are far less vulnerable while large businesses that have to support a huge
> infrastructure in buildings and multiple levels of managers, will have
> problems. I would suspect that some of the companies that you have named
> will have to seriously change the way they do business or disappear.
>
> Check out Jeremy Rifkin: "The Zero Marginal Cost Society"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-iDUcETjvo ...very interesting.
>
> Jim

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat May 24 15:06:27 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 13:06:27 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <1399707335.996718877@f120.i.mail.ru>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007><536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com><AA9D836A66164C78905B72CECB8507D9@HAL9007>
	<1399707335.996718877@f120.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <25C704A5EEDA45A490D700510730ACCD@HAL9007>

Love the start button.  Don't use IE but I've got Google drive if I need to
get my head in the clouds.

Now all I need is a reason to use the laptop that has 8.1 on it.  My
desktops, where I spend my quality cybertime are all W7.  

Maybe later in the year when my wife and I hit the road after we put our
youngest in college.


R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov
Shamil
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 12:36 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

 Hi Rocky --

Check that 'Computer' is now called 'This PC' :) SkyDrive is now integrated
into Windows Explorer as 'OneDrive'.
[Start] button is back - clicking it will toggle 'Classic Desktop' and
'Metro UI', right-clicking it will display a [WinKey]+X popup menu...
...

For full 'What's New' list goto:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn140266.aspx


-- Shamil

Fri, 9 May 2014 22:55:15 -0700 from "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>:
>I didn't wanna get left out - so I upgraded to 8.1 on my laptop - only 
>box with W8.  It went smoothly, so far I don't see any big differences.  
>What should I look for?
>
>r
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris 
>Fields
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:17 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>
>Me too!
>TNF
>
>Tina Norris Fields
>tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
>231-322-2787
>
>On 5/9/2014 3:50 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>>   I have got installed Win 8.1 update today. It worked well for me.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>> Wed, 7 May 2014 03:24:34 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca
>:
>>> I have no idea?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rocky Smolin" <  rockysmolin at bchacc.com >
>>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  
>>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:31:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>> Or what?
>>>
>>> r
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
>>> Lawrence
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:40 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
>>>
>>> It is time to update your Windows 8.1. According to Microsoft you 
>>> have two more days.
>>>
>>>  
>>> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_
>>> i
>>> nstall/
>>> kb2919355-windows-81-update-fails-800f0092-and/4d4d23a3-695a-4bd4-b3
>>> 4
>>> 0-d2ce9
>>> c75919d?page=100
>>>
>>> Jim
>

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat May 24 18:51:58 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 19:51:58 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <25C704A5EEDA45A490D700510730ACCD@HAL9007>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007>
	<536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com>
	<AA9D836A66164C78905B72CECB8507D9@HAL9007>
	<1399707335.996718877@f120.i.mail.ru>
	<25C704A5EEDA45A490D700510730ACCD@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jKpXu5f5Gufs38bRBwoQxiK9xUdGnyiY8XeD8rCxfw-A@mail.gmail.com>

Rocky,

Although I run Windows 8.1, I almost never see the tiles. Just to make sure
this is so, the first thing I did was drag the Desktop tile to the upper
left in the first tile group, so it's right there in case I accidentally
end up back in the tiles, so I can switch back with one click.

On my laptop I have a 22" external monitor attached, and the pair of
screens work in stretch mode. This is terrific. At the moment, I'm working
on my forthcoming book. I also have an Access app open. On the other
monitor I have a PDF open, as well as FireFox. Finally, I have a free
utility installed (whose name eludes me at the moment), that returns the
Start button to a more WIndows-7 style, but goes considerably further than
that, particularly in its presentation of the Control Panel.

In short, my Windows 8.1 looks and acts a lot more like Windows 7 than 8.1.
I guess you could say that I completely ignore the tiled interface, but
that's ok by me. I still get the under-the-covers advantages of 8.1, such
as much quicker bootup times and better stability. Mind you, just about the
only time I reboot is after an update or installation that demands it. All
in all, I'm quite happy to run Windows 8.1, since it now behaves exactly
the way I want. I'll have a look around later this evening, and see if I
can discover the name of the start button replacement. I highly recommend
it. There are several such replacements, one of which can be found at
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/start_menu_8.html.

Arthur


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>wrote:

> Love the start button.  Don't use IE but I've got Google drive if I need to
> get my head in the clouds.
>
> Now all I need is a reason to use the laptop that has 8.1 on it.  My
> desktops, where I spend my quality cybertime are all W7.
>
> Maybe later in the year when my wife and I hit the road after we put our
> youngest in college.
>
>
> R

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat May 24 19:14:41 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 20:14:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jKpXu5f5Gufs38bRBwoQxiK9xUdGnyiY8XeD8rCxfw-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007>
	<536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com>
	<AA9D836A66164C78905B72CECB8507D9@HAL9007>
	<1399707335.996718877@f120.i.mail.ru>
	<25C704A5EEDA45A490D700510730ACCD@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1jKpXu5f5Gufs38bRBwoQxiK9xUdGnyiY8XeD8rCxfw-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1har0RVwKvcbGh-Joy6cbvFQodA-aVmHgNXxx4EX7rq1A@mail.gmail.com>

Ah! I found the name of the start button replacement that I currently use.
It's Classic Shell and can be found at http://www.classicshell.net/. A
Google search reveals that there are several such replacements. There's a
review of six replacements at
http://www.howtogeek.com/127699/6-start-menu-replacements-for-windows-8/. I
chose Classic Shell for no other reason than it was the first one I came
across. Now that I've found this review,l may have a read and decide if any
of them offers features that Classic Shell does not.
?
A final note: you can configure Windows 8.1 to boot to the desktop and
avoid the tiles completely, except for accidents.

Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat May 24 19:21:24 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 17:21:24 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jKpXu5f5Gufs38bRBwoQxiK9xUdGnyiY8XeD8rCxfw-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007><536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com><AA9D836A66164C78905B72CECB8507D9@HAL9007><1399707335.996718877@f120.i.mail.ru><25C704A5EEDA45A490D700510730ACCD@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1jKpXu5f5Gufs38bRBwoQxiK9xUdGnyiY8XeD8rCxfw-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C9DEB9BBEBE4A4D97E56C99B56A6A5A@HAL9007>

I did that same thing w/W8 - put the desktop tile upper left.  So I was
always running W8 in W7 look alike mode.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 4:52 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

Rocky,

Although I run Windows 8.1, I almost never see the tiles. Just to make sure
this is so, the first thing I did was drag the Desktop tile to the upper
left in the first tile group, so it's right there in case I accidentally end
up back in the tiles, so I can switch back with one click.

On my laptop I have a 22" external monitor attached, and the pair of screens
work in stretch mode. This is terrific. At the moment, I'm working on my
forthcoming book. I also have an Access app open. On the other monitor I
have a PDF open, as well as FireFox. Finally, I have a free utility
installed (whose name eludes me at the moment), that returns the Start
button to a more WIndows-7 style, but goes considerably further than that,
particularly in its presentation of the Control Panel.

In short, my Windows 8.1 looks and acts a lot more like Windows 7 than 8.1.
I guess you could say that I completely ignore the tiled interface, but
that's ok by me. I still get the under-the-covers advantages of 8.1, such as
much quicker bootup times and better stability. Mind you, just about the
only time I reboot is after an update or installation that demands it. All
in all, I'm quite happy to run Windows 8.1, since it now behaves exactly the
way I want. I'll have a look around later this evening, and see if I can
discover the name of the start button replacement. I highly recommend it.
There are several such replacements, one of which can be found at
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/start_menu_8.html.

Arthur


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>wrote:

> Love the start button.  Don't use IE but I've got Google drive if I 
> need to get my head in the clouds.
>
> Now all I need is a reason to use the laptop that has 8.1 on it.  My 
> desktops, where I spend my quality cybertime are all W7.
>
> Maybe later in the year when my wife and I hit the road after we put 
> our youngest in college.
>
>
> R
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat May 24 19:22:56 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 17:22:56 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1har0RVwKvcbGh-Joy6cbvFQodA-aVmHgNXxx4EX7rq1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BD4F4D9E746C4A23A9F76AC9465D457F@HAL9007><536D53F0.7050305@torchlake.com><AA9D836A66164C78905B72CECB8507D9@HAL9007><1399707335.996718877@f120.i.mail.ru><25C704A5EEDA45A490D700510730ACCD@HAL9007><CAEPJO1jKpXu5f5Gufs38bRBwoQxiK9xUdGnyiY8XeD8rCxfw-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1har0RVwKvcbGh-Joy6cbvFQodA-aVmHgNXxx4EX7rq1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40FB73FC1C11451C80DE9282A79A721E@HAL9007>

The W8 desktop seems to work for me.  Just like W7.  But I'm trying, on the rare occasions I use the laptop (usually only when I'm on the road), to use the W8 interface just to get used to it. You know, give it a fair shake.

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 5:15 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Get your Windows 8.1 updated

Ah! I found the name of the start button replacement that I currently use.
It's Classic Shell and can be found at http://www.classicshell.net/. A Google search reveals that there are several such replacements. There's a review of six replacements at http://www.howtogeek.com/127699/6-start-menu-replacements-for-windows-8/. I chose Classic Shell for no other reason than it was the first one I came across. Now that I've found this review,l may have a read and decide if any of them offers features that Classic Shell does not.
?
A final note: you can configure Windows 8.1 to boot to the desktop and avoid the tiles completely, except for accidents.

Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun May 25 04:09:11 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 09:09:11 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line
In-Reply-To: <1611444874.53700742.1400946880090.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <431546fcef4f4e48ac9d73a0c17d0679@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<1611444874.53700742.1400946880090.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1401008951018.37940@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Yep, and note that Mono is taken care of as well.

/gustav
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Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 24. maj 2014 17:54
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi Gustav:

PS Isn't Microsoft also making ASP.Net and OSS project.

http://sdt.bz/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=71227&page=1

...and...

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/IntroducingASPNETVNext.aspx

also MS may be creating a web based Windows OS:

http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/new-evidence-microsoft-preparing-cloud-based-windows-os

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 8:47:13 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line

Hi all

Bring your Excel workbook to your website for interactive use. This is an offer from Microsoft free to use:

http://www.excelmashup.com/

/gustav


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun May 25 06:25:51 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 07:25:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dynamic embedded references in Word
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h2DZTsJXU0UZEstB_FSNufdOOK4T6XSkvFa40UgtwU-A@mail.gmail.com>

That subject may not describe exactly what I mean. I'm working on a Word
document that contains a number screen captures, whose captions all
resemble this:

Figure ##: bla bla bla

When I go back and decide to insert another picture anywhere but at the
end, the captions automatically renumber themselves from that point on.
Nice.

However, the accompanying text typically contains a phrase such as:

The Home form, as illustrated in Figure ##, is bla bla bla.

My question is this: how do I render the ## in the sentence fragment so
that it's dynamic, like the captions? So that when I insert a new picture,
this and subsequent references will be renumbered, along with the captions?

TIA,
-- 
Arthur

From marklbreen at gmail.com  Sun May 25 13:10:01 2014
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 19:10:01 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dynamic embedded references in Word
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1h2DZTsJXU0UZEstB_FSNufdOOK4T6XSkvFa40UgtwU-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1h2DZTsJXU0UZEstB_FSNufdOOK4T6XSkvFa40UgtwU-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGXtTCgCG_fjwOP3UPwqcQUzRgojWq8N6YcoYx5Oa9-DNcdAzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Arthur,

when you find out, will you tell us ?




On 25 May 2014 12:25, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> That subject may not describe exactly what I mean. I'm working on a Word
> document that contains a number screen captures, whose captions all
> resemble this:
>
> Figure ##: bla bla bla
>
> When I go back and decide to insert another picture anywhere but at the
> end, the captions automatically renumber themselves from that point on.
> Nice.
>
> However, the accompanying text typically contains a phrase such as:
>
> The Home form, as illustrated in Figure ##, is bla bla bla.
>
> My question is this: how do I render the ## in the sentence fragment so
> that it's dynamic, like the captions? So that when I insert a new picture,
> this and subsequent references will be renumbered, along with the captions?
>
> TIA,
> --
> Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun May 25 13:48:33 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 12:48:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dynamic embedded references in Word
In-Reply-To: <CAGXtTCgCG_fjwOP3UPwqcQUzRgojWq8N6YcoYx5Oa9-DNcdAzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1622627209.54212195.1401043713268.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Guys:

Here is an interesting aside and a very good reason to not trust attached word documents. PDF files may have their issues but doc files (add IE, into the mix, in its current state) can be toxic.

https://twitter.com/SnorreFagerland/status/464659376733958144

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Breen" <marklbreen at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dynamic embedded references in Word

Hi Arthur,

when you find out, will you tell us ?




On 25 May 2014 12:25, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> That subject may not describe exactly what I mean. I'm working on a Word
> document that contains a number screen captures, whose captions all
> resemble this:
>
> Figure ##: bla bla bla
>
> When I go back and decide to insert another picture anywhere but at the
> end, the captions automatically renumber themselves from that point on.
> Nice.
>
> However, the accompanying text typically contains a phrase such as:
>
> The Home form, as illustrated in Figure ##, is bla bla bla.
>
> My question is this: how do I render the ## in the sentence fragment so
> that it's dynamic, like the captions? So that when I insert a new picture,
> this and subsequent references will be renumbered, along with the captions?
>
> TIA,
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun May 25 13:56:31 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 12:56:31 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A bad day...
In-Reply-To: <c8c3bf2a3bcc45b7800f22fb227a01fe@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1594070295.54219252.1401044191473.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

So you think you have been having a bad day at work? Try and top this:

http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2014/05/16/emory-university-server-accidentally-sends-reformat-request-windows-pcs-including/

Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun May 25 17:01:17 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 18:01:17 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dynamic embedded references in Word
In-Reply-To: <1622627209.54212195.1401043713268.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <CAGXtTCgCG_fjwOP3UPwqcQUzRgojWq8N6YcoYx5Oa9-DNcdAzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1622627209.54212195.1401043713268.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g=wDJ7KQfxY__B=Fs2E+jVnPitOjb5B4y_EODtF6XkZg@mail.gmail.com>

Mark.

Your wish is my command. In Word 2007+, on the Links group of the Insert
tab of the ribbon, choose Cross Reference. That leads to the Cross
Reference dialog, at the top of which are a pair of combo boxes, for
Reference type and Insert reference to. On the Reference type combo, select
Figure. This immediately populates the For which listbox with a list of all
the figures in the document, with their captions. The Insert "Reference to"
combo gives a number of choices. In my case, I wanted "Only label and
number".

Now click the Insert button. Word inserts the label ("Figure") plus the
figure number.

Now when you Insert a picture at some position before the end of the list
of figures, both the Figure number and the reference to it are updated.

The process is essentially the same for prior versions of Word. The
difference is the location of the command. For these versions, the path to
the command is Insert | Reference | Cross Reference. After that, the dialog
is the as described above.

Note that the final dialog contains a checkbox indicating whether or not
you want the reference inserted as a link. The default is Checked, meaning
that Ctrl+Click will take you to the object referenced. That could be
really cool if you're referring back to a figure in a previous chapter, etc.

Arthur


----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Breen" <marklbreen at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Dynamic embedded references in Word
>
> Hi Arthur,
>
> when you find out, will you tell us ?
>

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun May 25 17:33:18 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 18:33:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A bad day...
In-Reply-To: <1594070295.54219252.1401044191473.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <c8c3bf2a3bcc45b7800f22fb227a01fe@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1594070295.54219252.1401044191473.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hBp4qGLVL6nR86JVaMkCW3Bkg8rNWFE5AFwn77KhpTjw@mail.gmail.com>

Wow. At that point, there's nothing to do but laugh.

A.


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> So you think you have been having a bad day at work? Try and top this:
>
>
> http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2014/05/16/emory-university-server-accidentally-sends-reformat-request-windows-pcs-including/
>
> Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun May 25 18:11:29 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 19:11:29 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gHCewQD+qhAdM8nhx9B4q+HfPGTnDJSqA7UB8SQYnDwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a way to create a delay before the Snipping Tool kicks in? I'm
trying to capture the screen while a submenu is open, but as soon as I
click the Snip Tool, the submenu in the program of interest disappears. A
delay of a few seconds would give me time to return to the app and re-open
the submenu.

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun May 25 18:17:18 2014
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 16:17:18 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gHCewQD+qhAdM8nhx9B4q+HfPGTnDJSqA7UB8SQYnDwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gHCewQD+qhAdM8nhx9B4q+HfPGTnDJSqA7UB8SQYnDwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6F21490D0DF04430A73D88DC2E282069@HAL9007>

I use Lightshot - don't know if that will behave any differently:
http://app.prntscr.com/ but free and quick to try.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool

Is there a way to create a delay before the Snipping Tool kicks in? I'm
trying to capture the screen while a submenu is open, but as soon as I click
the Snip Tool, the submenu in the program of interest disappears. A delay of
a few seconds would give me time to return to the app and re-open the
submenu.

--
Arthur
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From bill_patten at embarqmail.com  Sun May 25 18:30:10 2014
From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 16:30:10 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gHCewQD+qhAdM8nhx9B4q+HfPGTnDJSqA7UB8SQYnDwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gHCewQD+qhAdM8nhx9B4q+HfPGTnDJSqA7UB8SQYnDwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23C1041EBB484B16B5AC6D91EFD70233@BPCS>

When I can't use the snipping tool, I use alt prtscrn and paste that, if I 
need to just cut use a small part of the form I paste into paint and then 
cut the part I want.

ctrl prtscn = the whole  screen and alt prtscn copies the active window.

Bill

-----Original Message----- 
From: Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool

Is there a way to create a delay before the Snipping Tool kicks in? I'm
trying to capture the screen while a submenu is open, but as soon as I
click the Snip Tool, the submenu in the program of interest disappears. A
delay of a few seconds would give me time to return to the app and re-open
the submenu.

-- 
Arthur
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun May 25 23:50:49 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 14:50:49 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool
In-Reply-To: <23C1041EBB484B16B5AC6D91EFD70233@BPCS>
References: <CAEPJO1gHCewQD+qhAdM8nhx9B4q+HfPGTnDJSqA7UB8SQYnDwQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<23C1041EBB484B16B5AC6D91EFD70233@BPCS>
Message-ID: <5382C829.10804.1573190C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I use IrfanView.    Leave it running in the background, bring up the shortcut menu in the 
application of interested and press Ctrl+F11.

-- 
Stuart

On 25 May 2014 at 16:30, Bill Patten wrote:

> When I can't use the snipping tool, I use alt prtscrn and paste that, if I 
> need to just cut use a small part of the form I paste into paint and then 
> cut the part I want.
> 
> ctrl prtscn = the whole  screen and alt prtscn copies the active window.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:11 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool
> 
> Is there a way to create a delay before the Snipping Tool kicks in? I'm
> trying to capture the screen while a submenu is open, but as soon as I
> click the Snip Tool, the submenu in the program of interest disappears. A
> delay of a few seconds would give me time to return to the app and re-open
> the submenu.
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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> 



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon May 26 01:07:30 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 02:07:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool
In-Reply-To: <5382C829.10804.1573190C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1gHCewQD+qhAdM8nhx9B4q+HfPGTnDJSqA7UB8SQYnDwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<23C1041EBB484B16B5AC6D91EFD70233@BPCS>
	<5382C829.10804.1573190C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jP9YaFtyWR2YvnNMbNvCPi4rkD3YeVHpfc6uwfhgLiyA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Stuart. I think that I used it years ago, but I'll go grab an
updated virgin right now.

Arthur
?

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon May 26 01:27:22 2014
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:27:22 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jP9YaFtyWR2YvnNMbNvCPi4rkD3YeVHpfc6uwfhgLiyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gHCewQD+qhAdM8nhx9B4q+HfPGTnDJSqA7UB8SQYnDwQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<5382C829.10804.1573190C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<CAEPJO1jP9YaFtyWR2YvnNMbNvCPi4rkD3YeVHpfc6uwfhgLiyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5382DECA.1823.15CB7DC9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

A hymenally reconstructed one?

On 26 May 2014 at 2:07, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Thanks, Stuart. I think that I used it years ago, but I'll go grab an
> updated virgin right now.
> 
> Arthur
> 
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From eptept at gmail.com  Tue May 27 06:54:21 2014
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 07:54:21 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Pop-ups (Cross-posted)
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpWLyecdqgo_2GKcQLu0cg6BeqtYpdnK_AsPmzsnHkxz5A@mail.gmail.com>

Lately I've been getting a lot of pop-ups in Firefox even though block
pop-ups is checked.  Also, a lot of these 4-5 questions surveys that want
to offer you merchandise and reduced prices.  Anyone with similar situation
and possible solution.

From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Tue May 27 08:19:56 2014
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:19:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Pop-ups (Cross-posted)
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpWLyecdqgo_2GKcQLu0cg6BeqtYpdnK_AsPmzsnHkxz5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEkqQpWLyecdqgo_2GKcQLu0cg6BeqtYpdnK_AsPmzsnHkxz5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F98028D5FE935@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>

AdBlock Plus? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/

Works well for me.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:54 AM
To: Off Topic; Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Pop-ups (Cross-posted)

Lately I've been getting a lot of pop-ups in Firefox even though block pop-ups is checked.  Also, a lot of these 4-5 questions surveys that want to offer you merchandise and reduced prices.  Anyone with similar situation and possible solution.
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May 27 12:37:14 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 11:37:14 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool
In-Reply-To: <6F21490D0DF04430A73D88DC2E282069@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <1333175458.55580861.1401212234901.JavaMail.root@cds018>

My daughter is using the following graphic tool:

http://www.fotor.com/features/collage.html

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:17:18 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool

I use Lightshot - don't know if that will behave any differently:
http://app.prntscr.com/ but free and quick to try.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Snipping Tool

Is there a way to create a delay before the Snipping Tool kicks in? I'm
trying to capture the screen while a submenu is open, but as soon as I click
the Snip Tool, the submenu in the program of interest disappears. A delay of
a few seconds would give me time to return to the app and re-open the
submenu.

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue May 27 13:30:30 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 12:30:30 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Pop-ups (Cross-posted)
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpWLyecdqgo_2GKcQLu0cg6BeqtYpdnK_AsPmzsnHkxz5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1232131764.55625918.1401215430122.JavaMail.root@cds018>

The people that design popups are getting much more sophisticated.

Most popup blockers just look at the domain call that the popup is using, and then decides whether to block it or not. There are a number of ways around that strategy. If the ad is pushed directly into the current page, then displayed or preloaded, there is no way to tell where it comes from, or if the popup is coming directly from the local domain or looks like it is coming locally, there is no way to know whether the object is a local popup help screen or an ad.

With these sort of ad designs, that use carefully engineered pages, it would take magic to detect them. Welcome to the new world of ads.

Jim       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Tesiny" <eptept at gmail.com>
To: "Off Topic" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>, "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:54:21 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox Pop-ups (Cross-posted)

Lately I've been getting a lot of pop-ups in Firefox even though block
pop-ups is checked.  Also, a lot of these 4-5 questions surveys that want
to offer you merchandise and reduced prices.  Anyone with similar situation
and possible solution.
_______________________________________________
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dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed May 28 03:39:23 2014
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 04:39:23 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Continuous XP support
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hT+h4HLE5sdicJ3vuTxZ52adFSoTGKHypbEShT_p=Mog@mail.gmail.com>

This from slashdot...

"A registry workaround<http://www.zdnet.com/registry-hack-enables-continued-updates-for-windows-xp-7000029851/>,
which tricks Windows Update into thinking you are running Windows Embedded
POSReady 2009, allows you to get free security
updates<http://www.winbeta.org/news/registry-hack-lets-you-get-free-security-updates-windows-xp-until-2019>
until
2019. All you need is a simple 32bit or 64bit registry entry in order to
make this work. POSReady 2009 is slated to receive security updates for
another five years. Microsoft ended support for Windows XP on April 8th of
2014."
I don't use XP any more, but a few of my old clients do, and perhaps also a
few of yours, so this may be of interest.
-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed May 28 12:08:33 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 11:08:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Continuous XP support
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hT+h4HLE5sdicJ3vuTxZ52adFSoTGKHypbEShT_p=Mog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1915775391.56418307.1401296913903.JavaMail.root@cds018>

On the weekend, I remoted into an office that I had previously replaced half their computers with Ubuntu. This time we replaced the remaining XP boxes, nine plus two laptops with the latest LTS Ubuntu 14.04 release...a piece of cake to say the least. It only took about three hours...considering that a full system backup was done first. 

It has been about four years since the first replacements and the one thing they have noticed is that Linux boxes never crash or suffer from malware attacks. For some speciality software they are still using virtual drives or an emulator but even those are gradually being replaced with native equivalent products. (The young lady that is running the office is quite brilliant and is now converted to a total Linux fanatic. :-))

For the office systems that is still running XP clients, in virtual mode, this is great news. Thanks for posting. I will pass it along. :-)

Jim      

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:39:23 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Continuous XP support

This from slashdot...

"A registry workaround<http://www.zdnet.com/registry-hack-enables-continued-updates-for-windows-xp-7000029851/>,
which tricks Windows Update into thinking you are running Windows Embedded
POSReady 2009, allows you to get free security
updates<http://www.winbeta.org/news/registry-hack-lets-you-get-free-security-updates-windows-xp-until-2019>
until
2019. All you need is a simple 32bit or 64bit registry entry in order to
make this work. POSReady 2009 is slated to receive security updates for
another five years. Microsoft ended support for Windows XP on April 8th of
2014."
I don't use XP any more, but a few of my old clients do, and perhaps also a
few of yours, so this may be of interest.
-- 
Arthur
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed May 28 12:39:24 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 21:39:24 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Excel_on-line?=
In-Reply-To: <1401008951018.37940@cactus.dk>
References: <431546fcef4f4e48ac9d73a0c17d0679@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1611444874.53700742.1400946880090.JavaMail.root@cds018>
	<1401008951018.37940@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1401298764.785161493@f426.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim and Gustav --

Yes, this is good news, Scott Hanselman writes in the second article from Jim links' list: "ASP.NET vNext (and Rosyln) runs on Mono, on both Mac and Linux today. While Mono isn't a project from Microsoft, we'll collaborate with the Mono team, plus Mono will be added to our test matrix. It's our aspiration that it "just work."
-- Shamil

Sun, 25 May 2014 09:09:11 +0000 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Jim
>
>Yep, and note that Mono is taken care of as well.
>
>/gustav
>________________________________________
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>Sendt: 24. maj 2014 17:54
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line
>
>Hi Gustav:
>
>PS Isn't Microsoft also making ASP.Net and OSS project.
>
>http://sdt.bz/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=71227&page=1
>
>...and...
>
>http://www.hanselman.com/blog/IntroducingASPNETVNext.aspx
>
>also MS may be creating a web based Windows OS:
>
>http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/new-evidence-microsoft-preparing-cloud-based-windows-os
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gustav Brock" < gustav at cactus.dk >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 8:47:13 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel on-line
>
>Hi all
>
>Bring your Excel workbook to your website for interactive use. This is an offer from Microsoft free to use:
>
>http://www.excelmashup.com/
>
>/gustav
>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed May 28 12:47:29 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 21:47:29 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Announcing_Xamarin_3?=
Message-ID: <1401299249.614150499@f426.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:

http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3


-- 
???????????? ??????

From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu May 29 03:30:51 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 08:30:51 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
In-Reply-To: <1401299249.614150499@f426.i.mail.ru>
References: <1401299249.614150499@f426.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1401352250881.55378@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

Well, great except for the cost. Too bad.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 28. maj 2014 19:47
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3

 Hi All --

Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:

http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3


--
???????????? ??????


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu May 29 06:15:53 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 11:15:53 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
In-Reply-To: <1401352250881.55378@cactus.dk>
References: <1401299249.614150499@f426.i.mail.ru>,
	<1401352250881.55378@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1401362152769.50742@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Much more here:

  http://www.hanselman.com/blog/XamarinFormsWriteOnceRunEverywhereANDBeNative.aspx

Note the comments which contain great insight.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
Sendt: 29. maj 2014 10:30
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3

Hi Shamil

Well, great except for the cost. Too bad.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 28. maj 2014 19:47
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3

 Hi All --

Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:

http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 29 10:36:11 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
In-Reply-To: <1401299249.614150499@f426.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <415344400.57155880.1401377771745.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3

 Hi All --

Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:

http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3


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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu May 29 11:08:57 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 20:08:57 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Announcing_Xamarin_3?=
In-Reply-To: <415344400.57155880.1401377771745.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1401299249.614150499@f426.i.mail.ru>
	<415344400.57155880.1401377771745.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1401379737.296558195@f344.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim and Gustav --

Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.

-- Shamil


Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>
>http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 29 11:19:24 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 10:19:24 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
In-Reply-To: <1401379737.296558195@f344.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1344690421.57208701.1401380364364.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

But doesn't Visual Studio support not start until you have reached the $1000 level?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:08:57 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3

 Hi Jim and Gustav --

Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.

-- Shamil


Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>
>http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>
>
>-- 
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu May 29 12:22:13 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 21:22:13 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Announcing_Xamarin_3?=
In-Reply-To: <1344690421.57208701.1401380364364.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1401379737.296558195@f344.i.mail.ru>
	<1344690421.57208701.1401380364364.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1401384133.147909681@f410.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Free Xamarin Studio ( http://xamarin.com/studio ) can be used instead of VS.

-- Shamil


Thu, 29 May 2014 10:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>But doesn't Visual Studio support not start until you have reached the $1000 level?
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:08:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi Jim and Gustav --
>
>Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>
>>?Hi All --
>>
>>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>>
>> http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu May 29 12:46:24 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 11:46:24 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
In-Reply-To: <1401384133.147909681@f410.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <893345245.57290929.1401385584787.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

Thanks for that link.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:22:13 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3

 Hi Jim --

Free Xamarin Studio ( http://xamarin.com/studio ) can be used instead of VS.

-- Shamil


Thu, 29 May 2014 10:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>But doesn't Visual Studio support not start until you have reached the $1000 level?
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:08:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi Jim and Gustav --
>
>Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>
>>?Hi All --
>>
>>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>>
>> http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>???????????? ??????
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri May 30 01:01:44 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 10:01:44 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Announcing_Xamarin_3?=
In-Reply-To: <893345245.57290929.1401385584787.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1401384133.147909681@f410.i.mail.ru>
	<893345245.57290929.1401385584787.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1401429704.98362045@f406.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

My pleasure! But real programmers don't use/don't need GUI IDE, do they? ;)

-- Shamil


Thu, 29 May 2014 11:46:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Thanks for that link.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:22:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Free Xamarin Studio (  http://xamarin.com/studio ) can be used instead of VS.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Thu, 29 May 2014 10:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>But doesn't Visual Studio support not start until you have reached the $1000 level?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:08:57 AM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>
>>?Hi Jim and Gustav --
>>
>>Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>
>>>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>
>>>?Hi All --
>>>
>>>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>>>
>>>  http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>>>
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>???????????? ??????
>>>_______________________________________________
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>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 30 02:19:24 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 01:19:24 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
In-Reply-To: <1401429704.98362045@f406.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1585079275.57786675.1401434364497.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

Of course not. Real men don't use GUIs. ;-) 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:01:44 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3

 Hi Jim --

My pleasure! But real programmers don't use/don't need GUI IDE, do they? ;)

-- Shamil


Thu, 29 May 2014 11:46:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Thanks for that link.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:22:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Free Xamarin Studio (  http://xamarin.com/studio ) can be used instead of VS.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Thu, 29 May 2014 10:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>But doesn't Visual Studio support not start until you have reached the $1000 level?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:08:57 AM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>
>>?Hi Jim and Gustav --
>>
>>Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>
>>>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>
>>>?Hi All --
>>>
>>>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>>>
>>>  http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>>>
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>???????????? ??????
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>dba-Tech mailing list
>>>  dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>>>
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>>>  dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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>>>
>>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri May 30 07:05:49 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 16:05:49 +0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Announcing_Xamarin_3?=
In-Reply-To: <1585079275.57786675.1401434364497.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1401429704.98362045@f406.i.mail.ru>
	<1585079275.57786675.1401434364497.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1401451549.782809069@f396.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim and Gusatv et all --

It has just started at 5am PDT
http://resources.xamarin.com/say-hello-to-xamarin-3-5am.html


Thank you.

-- Shamil


Fri, 30 May 2014 01:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Of course not. Real men don't use GUIs. ;-) 
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:01:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>My pleasure! But real programmers don't use/don't need GUI IDE, do they? ;)
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Thu, 29 May 2014 11:46:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>Thanks for that link.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:22:13 AM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>
>>?Hi Jim --
>>
>>Free Xamarin Studio (  http://xamarin.com/studio ) can be used instead of VS.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Thu, 29 May 2014 10:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>
>>>But doesn't Visual Studio support not start until you have reached the $1000 level?
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:08:57 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>
>>>?Hi Jim and Gustav --
>>>
>>>Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.
>>>
>>>-- Shamil
>>>
>>>
>>>Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>>
>>>>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>>>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>>
>>>>?Hi All --
>>>>
>>>>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>>>>
>>>>  http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 30 10:13:48 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 09:13:48 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
In-Reply-To: <1401451549.782809069@f396.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <121322933.58022681.1401462828159.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

Again, thank you for the link.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:05:49 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3

 Hi Jim and Gusatv et all --

It has just started at 5am PDT
http://resources.xamarin.com/say-hello-to-xamarin-3-5am.html


Thank you.

-- Shamil


Fri, 30 May 2014 01:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Of course not. Real men don't use GUIs. ;-) 
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:01:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>My pleasure! But real programmers don't use/don't need GUI IDE, do they? ;)
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Thu, 29 May 2014 11:46:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>Thanks for that link.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:22:13 AM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>
>>?Hi Jim --
>>
>>Free Xamarin Studio (  http://xamarin.com/studio ) can be used instead of VS.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Thu, 29 May 2014 10:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>
>>>But doesn't Visual Studio support not start until you have reached the $1000 level?
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:08:57 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>
>>>?Hi Jim and Gustav --
>>>
>>>Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.
>>>
>>>-- Shamil
>>>
>>>
>>>Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>>
>>>>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>>>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>>
>>>>?Hi All --
>>>>
>>>>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>>>>
>>>>  http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>???????????? ??????
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>dba-Tech mailing list
>>>>  dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
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>>>>  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>>>>
>>>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri May 30 11:04:02 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 16:04:02 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Developing cross-platform mobile with VS (was:
 Announcing Xamarin 3)
In-Reply-To: <1401362152769.50742@cactus.dk>
References: <1401299249.614150499@f426.i.mail.ru>,
	<1401352250881.55378@cactus.dk>,<1401362152769.50742@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1401465841070.42689@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Here's a good roundup:

http://developer.telerik.com/featured/5-ways-to-build-mobile-apps-with-visual-studio/

/gustav

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri May 30 11:53:22 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 10:53:22 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Developing cross-platform mobile with VS (was:
 Announcing Xamarin 3)
In-Reply-To: <1401465841070.42689@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <143300363.58124648.1401468802717.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

Thanks for the link. 

So much to learn and so little time. 

Aside: It is disappointing that the full Visual Studio IDE, which has all the features needed to create a complete web application, is not inexpensive, making its purchase hard to justify.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:04:02 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Developing cross-platform mobile with VS (was: Announcing Xamarin 3)

Hi all

Here's a good roundup:

http://developer.telerik.com/featured/5-ways-to-build-mobile-apps-with-visual-studio/

/gustav
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat May 31 15:21:18 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 14:21:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Linux about to be sold
In-Reply-To: <c8c3bf2a3bcc45b7800f22fb227a01fe@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <763776380.58859895.1401567678951.JavaMail.root@cds018>

An early report suggests that Canonical will be sold to Facebook for 3 Billion dollars.

http://itsfoss.com/facebook-to-buy-ubuntu-for-3-billion

The announcement will be official by tomorrow morning.

Jim

From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat May 31 16:43:20 2014
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:43:20 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Linux about to be sold
In-Reply-To: <763776380.58859895.1401567678951.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <c8c3bf2a3bcc45b7800f22fb227a01fe@AMSPR06MB311.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<763776380.58859895.1401567678951.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1401572600394.30335@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

It's an exactly two months old story. Mind you THAT date!

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 31. maj 2014 22:21
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Linux about to be sold

An early report suggests that Canonical will be sold to Facebook for 3 Billion dollars.

http://itsfoss.com/facebook-to-buy-ubuntu-for-3-billion

The announcement will be official by tomorrow morning.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat May 31 20:14:52 2014
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 19:14:52 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Linux about to be sold
In-Reply-To: <1401572600394.30335@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1248704351.58950687.1401585292344.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Gustav:

I know...I was seeing if anyone would bite...being as it was for tomorrow; April the first. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 2:43:20 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Linux about to be sold

Hi Jim

It's an exactly two months old story. Mind you THAT date!

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 31. maj 2014 22:21
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Ubuntu Linux about to be sold

An early report suggests that Canonical will be sold to Facebook for 3 Billion dollars.

http://itsfoss.com/facebook-to-buy-ubuntu-for-3-billion

The announcement will be official by tomorrow morning.

Jim
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat May 31 08:46:11 2014
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 13:46:11 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Announcing_Xamarin_3?=
In-Reply-To: <121322933.58022681.1401462828159.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1401451549.782809069@f396.i.mail.ru>
	<121322933.58022681.1401462828159.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1401543864.716866314@f224.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

If you missed webinar, here are the links:

Webinar recording:? https://xamarin.wistia.com/medias/dnm9rouaer ?
Webinar slides:? http://www.slideshare.net/Xamarin/say-hello-to-xamarin-3

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Fri, 30 May 2014 09:13:48 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Again, thank you for the link.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:05:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>
>?Hi Jim and Gusatv et all --
>
>It has just started at 5am PDT
>http://resources.xamarin.com/say-hello-to-xamarin-3-5am.html
>
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Fri, 30 May 2014 01:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>Of course not. Real men don't use GUIs. ;-) 
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:01:44 PM
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>
>>?Hi Jim --
>>
>>My pleasure! But real programmers don't use/don't need GUI IDE, do they? ;)
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>Thu, 29 May 2014 11:46:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>
>>>Thanks for that link.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:22:13 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>
>>>?Hi Jim --
>>>
>>>Free Xamarin Studio (  http://xamarin.com/studio ) can be used instead of VS.
>>>
>>>-- Shamil
>>>
>>>
>>>Thu, 29 May 2014 10:19:24 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>>
>>>>But doesn't Visual Studio support not start until you have reached the $1000 level?
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:08:57 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>>
>>>>?Hi Jim and Gustav --
>>>>
>>>>Well, Starter edition is free, Indie edition costs just a family extended dinner, and Business and Enterprise Editions have usual price ranges for corporations. I suppose Indie edition would be good enough for quite a few development/usage scenarios for SOHO companies with usually "shallow pockets.
>>>>
>>>>-- Shamil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thu, 29 May 2014 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) from Jim Lawrence <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>>>Hi Shamil:
>>>>>
>>>>>For developers or clients with deep pockets this may be an ideal.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>>>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:47:29 AM
>>>>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Announcing Xamarin 3
>>>>>
>>>>>?Hi All --
>>>>>
>>>>>Here are great news for multi-platform mobile development for C# devs:
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://blog.xamarin.com/announcing-xamarin-3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>???????????? ??????
>>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>>>  dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>>>>>
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