From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sun Feb  1 06:25:37 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 15:25:37 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?CoreOS_=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <1679189062.111983122.1422695391250.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1422260756.693220456@f129.i.mail.ru>
	<1679189062.111983122.1422695391250.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1422793537.116199112@f231.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Juju - I have never heard about it before.
AFAIS now Juji is really a magic tool  http://askubuntu.com/questions/80330/what-is-a-juju-charm :?

<<<
Juju can also be used together with Orchestra for physical deployments. So, for example, if you have a charm for Hadoop, you can use that to install Hadoop across a few thousand servers with Orchestra.
>>>

And "Juju charms" seems to be freely available for quite a few system configurations:

https://jujucharms.com/q/?type=charm

What do you think would it be possible to setup Juju on CoreOS? They mention here ( https://jujucharms.com/docs/ ?) Ubuntu only (for Linux) ??
Of course I can try to setup Juju of CoreOS on the DIgitalOcean ?cloud just wanted to know your opinion of Juju possible setup on CoreOS.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Saturday, January 31, 2015 2:09 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I have been looking at how CoreOS functions. Buying a droplet on DigitalOcean as far as I can see is the cheapest way to be able to test and maybe eventually deploy CoreOS...a very interesting technology to say the least.
>
>I plan to install Docker along with OwnCloud and Juju on a home server...it should be ready by next week.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:25:56 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ?
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I'm planning to implement for my customers a scalable on demand set of RESTFul ?web services serving a few custom application functions as well being "front-ends" to a few custom databases. And I'm currently looking at CoreOS ( https://coreos.com/ ). Do you have any experience with it??
>
>My RESTFul web services would probably be running on NodeJS (or PHP or Python) and my custom databases would be stored on mySQL (MariaDB?) - not sure about that last position yet as backend datamodels are relatively simple and so there could be no need to use a relational databases. Although currently MS Access and MS SQL with sometimes advanced SQL queries, stored procedures and user defined functions is used on backend, so if migrating to a noSQL backend these queries, stored procedures and user defined functions should be probably implemented in code.
>
>I'd also probably need to implement a full text flexible search system using Sphinx (  http://sphinxsearch.com )
>
>And there should also exist a fallback solution for all that architecture - a system configuration to run locally (very moderately scalable of course) in the case a cloud hosting as e.g.?  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-coreos-system-components ?will go down and will become unavailable for a long period of time. The latter is very improbable but anyway - a fallback solution would be a must to convince the customers to scale their currently more than 50% desktop/LAN based system configuration.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Feb  1 13:34:41 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 12:34:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ?
In-Reply-To: <1422261749.888610822@f390.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1424836957.113145225.1422819281459.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

Thanks for the heads up on the website. I looks like there is a lot of good material there. I have been looking at the new language GO as it seems to be a new language targeted towards building and designing Cloud services. Have you had any chance to investigate it?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, 26 January, 2015 12:42:29 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ?

 Hi All --

I suppose I should have added  Quay.io ?to my list: of (Docker) system configuration/deployment tools used with COreOS:

Repeatable and Testable Deployments using Quay.io
http://docs.quay.io/solution/repeatable-deployments.html
Thank you.

-- Shamil


Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:25:56 +0300 from Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>:
>Hi All --
>
>I'm planning to implement for my customers a scalable on demand set of RESTFul ?web services serving a few custom application functions as well being "front-ends" to a few custom databases. And I'm currently looking at CoreOS ( https://coreos.com/ ). Do you have any experience with it??
>
>My RESTFul web services would probably be running on NodeJS (or PHP or Python) and my custom databases would be stored on mySQL (MariaDB?) - not sure about that last position yet as backend datamodels are relatively simple and so there could be no need to use a relational databases. Although currently MS Access and MS SQL with sometimes advanced SQL queries, stored procedures and user defined functions is used on backend, so if migrating to a noSQL backend these queries, stored procedures and user defined functions should be probably implemented in code.
>
>I'd also probably need to implement a full text flexible search system using Sphinx (  http://sphinxsearch.com )
>
>And there should also exist a fallback solution for all that architecture - a system configuration to run locally (very moderately scalable of course) in the case a cloud hosting as e.g.?  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-coreos-system-components ?will go down and will become unavailable for a long period of time. The latter is very improbable but anyway - a fallback solution would be a must to convince the customers to scale their currently more than 50% desktop/LAN based system configuration.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Feb  1 17:45:06 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 16:45:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ?
In-Reply-To: <1422793537.116199112@f231.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <135651612.113270941.1422834306143.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

>From what I have read and heard, Juju is an excellent graphical interfaced product for the web/Cloud. 

I also understand that Microsoft, through Azure and Amazon has some excellent tools but there can be a very hefty price tag accompanying adoption. There is also the additional issues surrounding how both Microsoft and Amazon tries to lock their clients in. 

Juju may be a completely Linux product but most, if not all, of the major internet products are Linux based. Microsoft, through Azure just builds a Windows interface on top but it core supported applications are Linux.

You are a little way ahead of me as my reading on the subject does not replace actual experience. I plan to start installing and testing next week...which means in another week I should have mastered it. ;-)

Have you checked the tutorials on DigitalOcean? There are some very good ones available. The company even pays for good tutorials:

https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/get-paid-to-write-tutorials

I understand that both Microsoft and Ubuntu are building competing products to CoreOS. I can't remember the name of Microsoft's offering but Ubuntu has a product called Unicorn. (Seeing both companies have used CoreOS's source code I would suspect similar functionality.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2838354/linux/ubuntu-unicorn-coreos.html

Canonical has gone so far as to initiate a contest, for developers that can build Charms. Prizes of up the $10,000 are to be given:

https://juju.ubuntu.com/charm-championship

Seeing this rapid development makes me wonder, is it wise or not, to jump towards a final solution which may completely change within within a month or two.
  
Jim
   
----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, 1 February, 2015 4:25:37 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ?

 Hi Jim --

Juju - I have never heard about it before.
AFAIS now Juji is really a magic tool  http://askubuntu.com/questions/80330/what-is-a-juju-charm :?

<<<
Juju can also be used together with Orchestra for physical deployments. So, for example, if you have a charm for Hadoop, you can use that to install Hadoop across a few thousand servers with Orchestra.
>>>

And "Juju charms" seems to be freely available for quite a few system configurations:

https://jujucharms.com/q/?type=charm

What do you think would it be possible to setup Juju on CoreOS? They mention here ( https://jujucharms.com/docs/ ?) Ubuntu only (for Linux) ??
Of course I can try to setup Juju of CoreOS on the DIgitalOcean ?cloud just wanted to know your opinion of Juju possible setup on CoreOS.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Saturday, January 31, 2015 2:09 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I have been looking at how CoreOS functions. Buying a droplet on DigitalOcean as far as I can see is the cheapest way to be able to test and maybe eventually deploy CoreOS...a very interesting technology to say the least.
>
>I plan to install Docker along with OwnCloud and Juju on a home server...it should be ready by next week.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:25:56 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ?
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I'm planning to implement for my customers a scalable on demand set of RESTFul ?web services serving a few custom application functions as well being "front-ends" to a few custom databases. And I'm currently looking at CoreOS ( https://coreos.com/ ). Do you have any experience with it??
>
>My RESTFul web services would probably be running on NodeJS (or PHP or Python) and my custom databases would be stored on mySQL (MariaDB?) - not sure about that last position yet as backend datamodels are relatively simple and so there could be no need to use a relational databases. Although currently MS Access and MS SQL with sometimes advanced SQL queries, stored procedures and user defined functions is used on backend, so if migrating to a noSQL backend these queries, stored procedures and user defined functions should be probably implemented in code.
>
>I'd also probably need to implement a full text flexible search system using Sphinx (  http://sphinxsearch.com )
>
>And there should also exist a fallback solution for all that architecture - a system configuration to run locally (very moderately scalable of course) in the case a cloud hosting as e.g.?  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-coreos-system-components ?will go down and will become unavailable for a long period of time. The latter is very improbable but anyway - a fallback solution would be a must to convince the customers to scale their currently more than 50% desktop/LAN based system configuration.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sun Feb  1 17:52:32 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 02:52:32 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?CoreOS_=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <1424836957.113145225.1422819281459.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1422261749.888610822@f390.i.mail.ru>
	<1424836957.113145225.1422819281459.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1422834752.586493271@f221.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

I have just had a chance to read about GO. I liked it but I have to let it go (pun intended) - I mean to go without any my involvement in its usage... :) No time :(

I'm hoping that services like Quay.io will let me to go configuring various cloud services infrastructures configurations without explicit usage of GO.

-- Shamil


Sunday, February 01, 2015 12:34 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Thanks for the heads up on the website. I looks like there is a lot of good material there. I have been looking at the new language GO as it seems to be a new language targeted towards building and designing Cloud services. Have you had any chance to investigate it?
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Monday, 26 January, 2015 12:42:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ?
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I suppose I should have added  Quay.io ?to my list: of (Docker) system configuration/deployment tools used with COreOS:
>
>Repeatable and Testable Deployments using Quay.io
>http://docs.quay.io/solution/repeatable-deployments.html
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:25:56 +0300 from Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >:
>>Hi All --
>>
>>I'm planning to implement for my customers a scalable on demand set of RESTFul ?web services serving a few custom application functions as well being "front-ends" to a few custom databases. And I'm currently looking at CoreOS (  https://coreos.com/ ). Do you have any experience with it??
>>
>>My RESTFul web services would probably be running on NodeJS (or PHP or Python) and my custom databases would be stored on mySQL (MariaDB?) - not sure about that last position yet as backend datamodels are relatively simple and so there could be no need to use a relational databases. Although currently MS Access and MS SQL with sometimes advanced SQL queries, stored procedures and user defined functions is used on backend, so if migrating to a noSQL backend these queries, stored procedures and user defined functions should be probably implemented in code.
>>
>>I'd also probably need to implement a full text flexible search system using Sphinx (  http://sphinxsearch.com )
>>
>>And there should also exist a fallback solution for all that architecture - a system configuration to run locally (very moderately scalable of course) in the case a cloud hosting as e.g.?  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-coreos-system-components ?will go down and will become unavailable for a long period of time. The latter is very improbable but anyway - a fallback solution would be a must to convince the customers to scale their currently more than 50% desktop/LAN based system configuration.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- 
>>???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  2 00:04:54 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 23:04:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New browser
In-Reply-To: <1422382843.570925916@f403.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1101337405.113435649.1422857094027.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Well, I guess we can always use another browser <note sarcasm>. 

There is a new browser coming, call Vivaldi, that will run on all platforms. It is the dream of a couple of the original developers of Opera. The emphases, direction and features of the product are, a built-in note pad, an email client, auto-syncing and it is supposed to be fast...faster than any of the major browsers current running.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vivaldi-Browser-Announced

Jim  

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  2 00:14:30 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 23:14:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Waze by Google looks really nice.
In-Reply-To: <1422382843.570925916@f403.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <2022251701.113439054.1422857670489.JavaMail.root@cds018>

I have not seen this product before, though it has been around for a while, it is new to me and it looks really nice.

It runs off Google, on any browser that supports Chrome and is described as a Social GPS Maps and Traffic application. It supports touch screen and voice activation and so much more. Of course you will have to have the appropriate hardware and software but that is probably most who have the latest and greatest in tablets and smartphones.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waze&hl=en

Jim

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  2 00:38:44 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (peter.brawley at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 01:38:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New browser
Message-ID: <1357055500.15880.1422859124154.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

if it doesn't run on android and ios, it'll have limited appeal.

pb

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 02/02/15 1:04 AM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: [dba-Tech] New browser
Well, I guess we can always use another browser <note sarcasm>. 

There is a new browser coming, call Vivaldi, that will run on all platforms. It is the dream of a couple of the original developers of Opera. The emphases, direction and features of the product are, a built-in note pad, an email client, auto-syncing and it is supposed to be fast...faster than any of the major browsers current running.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vivaldi-Browser-Announced

Jim  
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

---- End Original Message ----

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  2 13:42:49 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:42:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New browser
In-Reply-To: <1357055500.15880.1422859124154.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1079088055.113957114.1422906169577.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Peter:

In this day and age, I would think so.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Sunday, 1 February, 2015 10:38:44 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] New browser

if it doesn't run on android and ios, it'll have limited appeal.

pb

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 02/02/15 1:04 AM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: [dba-Tech] New browser
Well, I guess we can always use another browser <note sarcasm>. 

There is a new browser coming, call Vivaldi, that will run on all platforms. It is the dream of a couple of the original developers of Opera. The emphases, direction and features of the product are, a built-in note pad, an email client, auto-syncing and it is supposed to be fast...faster than any of the major browsers current running.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vivaldi-Browser-Announced

Jim  
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

---- End Original Message ----
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  2 14:16:23 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:16:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The new RaspberryPI version two is shipping
In-Reply-To: <1422834752.586493271@f221.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <55332867.113994963.1422908183580.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Raspberry PI 2 is now ready to ship and supposedly it is capable of running Ubuntu and Windows 10. It is also supposed to be six times faster than it predecessor.

http://tinyurl.com/mpgq3ga

I could not see anything about its cost but would suspect a similar value as PI 1 of $25.00

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  2 16:58:09 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:58:09 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A great little product for syncing data and applications
In-Reply-To: <1422382843.570925916@f403.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1258275921.114159702.1422917889375.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

Syncthing is a relatively new product and now that it is out of Beta it seems like good option. It runs on all platforms, it has, for all extents and purposes, uncrackable encryption and authentication, open source so it has no backdoors or hidden code errors. The product's collective features makes it great contender whether you are running it across your network, the internet or within the Cloud.

http://syncthing.net

Jim 

From robert at servicexp.com  Mon Feb  2 17:09:24 2015
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:09:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] The new RaspberryPI version two is shipping
In-Reply-To: <55332867.113994963.1422908183580.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1422834752.586493271@f221.i.mail.ru>
	<55332867.113994963.1422908183580.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <003001d03f3d$4a9f8e70$dfdeab50$@com>

I believe it is on sale right now for $35.00 @ Element14 I just picked up 2

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 3:16 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] The new RaspberryPI version two is shipping

Raspberry PI 2 is now ready to ship and supposedly it is capable of running
Ubuntu and Windows 10. It is also supposed to be six times faster than it
predecessor.

http://tinyurl.com/mpgq3ga

I could not see anything about its cost but would suspect a similar value as
PI 1 of $25.00

Jim 
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  2 17:16:35 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:16:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The new RaspberryPI version two is shipping
In-Reply-To: <003001d03f3d$4a9f8e70$dfdeab50$@com>
Message-ID: <1870421344.114178506.1422918995373.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Robert:

Please, keep me posted on what you can make it do.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert" <robert at servicexp.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2015 3:09:24 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The new RaspberryPI version two is shipping

I believe it is on sale right now for $35.00 @ Element14 I just picked up 2

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 3:16 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] The new RaspberryPI version two is shipping

Raspberry PI 2 is now ready to ship and supposedly it is capable of running
Ubuntu and Windows 10. It is also supposed to be six times faster than it
predecessor.

http://tinyurl.com/mpgq3ga

I could not see anything about its cost but would suspect a similar value as
PI 1 of $25.00

Jim 
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb  5 02:58:10 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 08:58:10 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free Pluralsight Starter Subscription for Microsoft
	TechNet
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB09131D7F6BE8C3250EB70409CA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

Even though aimed at TechNet subscribers, it seems to be free for anyone who bothers to sign up:

https://offers.pluralsight.com/technet?loc=zTS3z&prod=zOTprodz&tech=zOttechz&prog=zOTprogz&type=zSOz&media=zOTmediaz&country=zUSz

<quote>
You are eligible for a FREE Pluralsight Starter subscription that includes 13 hand-selected courses. This offer is only available through April 30, 2015.
</quote>

A little late for ?new features of SQL Server 2012 R2? but still:

<quote>
Free access to courses includes:

Microsoft Azure

BEGINNER
?Understanding the difference between Microsoft Azure and AWS
?Introduction to Microsoft Azure Infrastructure as a Service
?Claims-based Identity for Windows: The Big Picture

INTERMEDIATE
?Microsoft Azure Infrastructure as a Service Essentials
?Play by Play: Microsoft Azure Security with Mark Russinovich
?Play by Play: Microsoft Azure Deployment with Scott Hanselman
?Microsoft Azure Administration New Features (March 2014)
?Hosting SQL Server in Microsoft Azure IaaS Fundamentals
?SQL Azure

Windows Server 2012 R2

INTERMEDIATE
?Windows Server 2012 R2 New Features
?Windows Server 2012 R2 (70-412) Configure Active Directory
?Windows Server 2012 R2 (70-412) Continuity and Disaster Recovery

System Center 2012 R2

ADVANCED
?System Center 2012 R2 Self Service Virtual Machine Provisioning
</quote>

/gustav

From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb  5 04:06:16 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 10:06:16 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] AdFender
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB091385A4A1ABBBB30267251ECA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

I use Adblock Plus to remove most ads but was pointed to AdFender which I've never heard of:

    http://adfender.com/

Anyone having experiences with this?

/gustav

From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb  5 04:30:28 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 10:30:28 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] .NET Becomes Open Source and Cross-Platform
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB09134656EFAD065F0857D5FFCA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

Did you notice:

http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/872415/NET-Becomes-Open-Source-and-Cross-Platform

/gustav

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Feb  5 06:26:57 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:26:57 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?=2ENET_Becomes_Open_Source_and_Cross-Platfor?=
 =?utf-8?q?m?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB09134656EFAD065F0857D5FFCA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB09134656EFAD065F0857D5FFCA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1423139217.688655368@f232.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for the link but do you have any ideas when ?" Both Visual Studio and? the entire .NET Stack will be?made to natively run and target both Linux and Mac operating systems in addition to Windows . This expansion will allow developers to work within their favorite environments and build applications that can target any technology or platforms. With this, Microsoft also announced the release of a new version of Visual Studio called Visual Studio Community."

-- Shamil


Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:30 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi all
>
>Did you notice:
>
>http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/872415/NET-Becomes-Open-Source-and-Cross-Platform
>
>/gustav
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb  5 06:46:29 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:46:29 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] .NET Becomes Open Source and Cross-Platform
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB09135C38E9C251192E3FE974CA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

No, I haven't even had time to watch some of the recorded sessions.
I doubt, however, that  confirmed dates should have been published at this early stage.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 5. februar 2015 13:27
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET Becomes Open Source and Cross-Platform

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for the link but do you have any ideas when ?" Both Visual Studio and? the entire .NET Stack will be?made to natively run and target both Linux and Mac operating systems in addition to Windows . This expansion will allow developers to work within their favorite environments and build applications that can target any technology or platforms. With this, Microsoft also announced the release of a new version of Visual Studio called Visual Studio Community."

-- Shamil


Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:30 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi all
>
>Did you notice:
>
>http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/872415/NET-Becomes-Open-Source-and-Cross-Platform
>
>/gustav 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Feb  5 10:11:32 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 19:11:32 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?=2ENET_Becomes_Open_Source_and_Cross-Platfor?=
 =?utf-8?q?m?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB09135C38E9C251192E3FE974CA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB09135C38E9C251192E3FE974CA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1423152692.673647196@f128.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Well, do you expect/have heard any rumors about that they (MS) will have WinForms (or WPF) also ported to Linux, Mac(/iOS) (, and Android) ?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:46 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>No, I haven't even had time to watch some of the recorded sessions.
>I doubt, however, that  confirmed dates should have been published at this early stage.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 5. februar 2015 13:27
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET Becomes Open Source and Cross-Platform
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>Thank you for the link but do you have any ideas when ?" Both Visual Studio and? the entire .NET Stack will be?made to natively run and target both Linux and Mac operating systems in addition to Windows . This expansion will allow developers to work within their favorite environments and build applications that can target any technology or platforms. With this, Microsoft also announced the release of a new version of Visual Studio called Visual Studio Community."
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:30 AM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>Hi all
>>
>>Did you notice:
>>
>> http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/872415/NET-Becomes-Open-Source-and-Cross-Platform
>>
>>/gustav 
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb  5 10:25:31 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:25:31 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] .NET Becomes Open Source and Cross-Platform
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB091306474F0D806F23C1D8FCCA3B0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

No, but that would be interesting. But to a degree only; we have zero clients running Linux, and those with Macs would be more interested in web-based apps, so I don't even know what the current Mono environment can create.

For mobile apps MS still miss to buy Xamarin ...

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 5. februar 2015 17:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET Becomes Open Source and Cross-Platform

 Hi Gustav --

Well, do you expect/have heard any rumors about that they (MS) will have WinForms (or WPF) also ported to Linux, Mac(/iOS) (, and Android) ?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:46 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>No, I haven't even had time to watch some of the recorded sessions.
>I doubt, however, that  confirmed dates should have been published at this early stage.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 5. februar 2015 13:27
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET Becomes Open Source and Cross-Platform
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>Thank you for the link but do you have any ideas when ?" Both Visual Studio and? the entire .NET Stack will be?made to natively run and target both Linux and Mac operating systems in addition to Windows . This expansion will allow developers to work within their favorite environments and build applications that can target any technology or platforms. With this, Microsoft also announced the release of a new version of Visual Studio called Visual Studio Community."
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:30 AM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>Hi all
>>
>>Did you notice:
>>
>> http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/872415/NET-Becomes-Open-Source-and-Cross-Platform
>>
>>/gustav 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb  7 03:47:03 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:47:03 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?JFYI=3A_How_to_Build_a_M=2EE=2EA=2EN_Web_App?=
	=?utf-8?q?lication?=
Message-ID: <1423302423.227605171@f365.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

Link tells what it's about:

http://travistidwell.com/blog/2015/01/20/how-to-build-a-mean-web-application/

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  7 10:30:58 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:30:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] What is better than a Raspberry PI (2)?
In-Reply-To: <1258275921.114159702.1422917889375.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <511932470.118818016.1423326658649.JavaMail.root@cds018>

The Raspberry PI 2 is not necessarily your best choice for a small computer.

There is another similar product with basically the same hardware and software but with a couple of notable exceptions. It is called the ODroib-C1:

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php

The first item that is a improvement is that ODroid has one GB LAN connection while the PI has 0.1 GB LAN connection. Second, while the new PI can be over-clocked to 1.1 GHz the ODroid can be over-clocked to 1.7 GHz. The one set of spec that the ODroid-C does not match or exceed the Raspberry PI 2 is in video options...but for most developers that would hardly be a serious consideration.

In summary, the PI will still holds the educational market as it was first and is well established but for the geeks ODroid possesses the greatest performance specs (See product comparisons chart in attached link).

PS They are both just $35 USD

Jim  

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  7 14:09:09 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 13:09:09 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new age of hacking.
In-Reply-To: <1423302423.227605171@f365.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1753987486.118964650.1423339749199.JavaMail.root@cds018>

The latest research claims that computers are vulnerable to side channel attacks. 

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/air-gapped-computers-are-no-longer-secure/?tag=nl.e036&s_cid=e036&ttag=e036&ftag=TREa988f1c

This is so of course but some things to note is that these vulnerabilities can be stopped or are limited by the type of computer you own. Computers with in metal cases or computers that work within areas of high static, that have to use a Faraday Cage are not susceptible to these type of attacks.

http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/build-your-own-faraday-cage-heres-how

Jim   

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  7 14:13:33 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 13:13:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] JFYI: How to Build a M.E.A.N Web Application
In-Reply-To: <1423302423.227605171@f365.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <920153705.118967480.1423340013480.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

That is so interesting that I actually stopped and watched the entire video presentation through my lunch time. Another great stack that I will keep a link to as for further reference.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, 7 February, 2015 1:47:03 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] JFYI: How to Build a M.E.A.N Web Application

 Hi All --

Link tells what it's about:

http://travistidwell.com/blog/2015/01/20/how-to-build-a-mean-web-application/

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb  7 15:43:24 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 00:43:24 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?JFYI=3A_How_to_Build_a_M=2EE=2EA=2EN_Web_App?=
 =?utf-8?q?lication?=
In-Reply-To: <920153705.118967480.1423340013480.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <1423302423.227605171@f365.i.mail.ru>
	<920153705.118967480.1423340013480.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1423345404.428658859@f123.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

I have only put the subject tutorial link in my steadily growing list of "ToWatch" tutorials.

But I'm currently reading an Amazon Kindle book "NodeJS the right way" ( http://www.amazon.com/Node-js-Right-Way-Server-Side-JavaScript/dp/1937785734 ) - I have it on Kindle Cloud, Kindle Reader device, on Kindle PC and Kindle WinPhone ?- so I"m getting through it bit by bit when I have a chance to read it on one of my devices keeping this book :) This book is well written IMO and its sample also uses MEAN stack.

BTW, have you read the following quite different pro- and contra- articles and comments on NodeJS? :

https://www.semitwist.com/mirror/node-js-is-cancer.html

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2jdnsb/nodejs_is_cancer/

http://www.uberbrady.com/2011/10/nodejs-is-not-cancer-you-are-just-moron.html


I'm wondering, if I will have a NodeJS based Web Service, which will take, say, 100 ms in total to process (with a few I/O interruptions while it's executed on NodeJS server side) a web request, and web requests will come from client apps in one second intervals then 20 clients will put such a web service down - I mean this web service will not be able to process one client request per second - how to scale such a web service? Would it be correct (for starters) to have a "front-end" nodeJS web service, which will delegate real processing to workers nodeJS local web services? Also would and how CoreOS and Docker could help in this my naive scalability scheme?

http://netloid.com/technology/why-coreos-and-docker-what-you-need-to-know

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18285212/how-to-scale-docker-containers-in-production

http://www.seenickcode.com/neo4j-docker-coreos-a-gentle-guided-introduction/

Would Quay.io help to import on demand and activate ready to use CoreOS/Docker/MEAN vm/container/application instances?

https://coreos.com/blog/CoreOS-enterprise-docker-registry/

FYI: I could be wrong with my current expectations to orchestrate/scale on demand CoreOS/Docker/MEAN stack - I'm still having just a superficial understanding on how all that stuff can work together....


Thank you.

-- Shamil


Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:13 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>That is so interesting that I actually stopped and watched the entire video presentation through my lunch time. Another great stack that I will keep a link to as for further reference.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Saturday, 7 February, 2015 1:47:03 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] JFYI: How to Build a M.E.A.N Web Application
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Link tells what it's about:
>
>http://travistidwell.com/blog/2015/01/20/how-to-build-a-mean-web-application/
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  7 17:45:01 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:45:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] JFYI: How to Build a M.E.A.N Web Application
In-Reply-To: <1423345404.428658859@f123.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1727676029.119064472.1423352701268.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi Shamil:

I may then need you help from time to time.

As of yesterday, after a year of saving and gather parts I have a new server. I am still deciding what is the best OS to install. Debian Linux of course but I am deciding whether a fat or thin client would be the best option and then which one...and then ZFS might be an excellent file server option(?)...It will be a careful performance balancing act.

The new box, is a 64bit, on a respectable Asus Z87-K motherboard with all the standard built-ins (video, dual network cards, 8 USB, sound etc...), one 8GB RAM chip, with room for 3 more SIMMs, if required, Intel CPU core i5 (supposed to be better than the i7 as very few application can handle even 4 cores.(?)), one 250GB Samsung SSD (850 pro with a ten year warranty), one 4TB hard drive with another four slots, in which to grow as need requires and a 500W whisper quiet fan.

I have already planned to install openCloud, a dual running CoreOS virtual drive and a selection of development tools...Like Juju and maybe Apache for more tradition websites. This new MEAN stack looks like a great start as it will probably be a while until Microsoft releases a stable .Net IDE and maybe for websites, it might be much better to just learn NodeJS (JavaScript) like you are doing. But of course these plans could change at any moment...there is just so many choices available. :-)

Thanks for all the links...they should keep be out of trouble for a while.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, 7 February, 2015 1:43:24 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] JFYI: How to Build a M.E.A.N Web Application

 Hi Jim --

I have only put the subject tutorial link in my steadily growing list of "ToWatch" tutorials.

But I'm currently reading an Amazon Kindle book "NodeJS the right way" ( http://www.amazon.com/Node-js-Right-Way-Server-Side-JavaScript/dp/1937785734 ) - I have it on Kindle Cloud, Kindle Reader device, on Kindle PC and Kindle WinPhone ?- so I"m getting through it bit by bit when I have a chance to read it on one of my devices keeping this book :) This book is well written IMO and its sample also uses MEAN stack.

BTW, have you read the following quite different pro- and contra- articles and comments on NodeJS? :

https://www.semitwist.com/mirror/node-js-is-cancer.html

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2jdnsb/nodejs_is_cancer/

http://www.uberbrady.com/2011/10/nodejs-is-not-cancer-you-are-just-moron.html


I'm wondering, if I will have a NodeJS based Web Service, which will take, say, 100 ms in total to process (with a few I/O interruptions while it's executed on NodeJS server side) a web request, and web requests will come from client apps in one second intervals then 20 clients will put such a web service down - I mean this web service will not be able to process one client request per second - how to scale such a web service? Would it be correct (for starters) to have a "front-end" nodeJS web service, which will delegate real processing to workers nodeJS local web services? Also would and how CoreOS and Docker could help in this my naive scalability scheme?

http://netloid.com/technology/why-coreos-and-docker-what-you-need-to-know

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18285212/how-to-scale-docker-containers-in-production

http://www.seenickcode.com/neo4j-docker-coreos-a-gentle-guided-introduction/

Would Quay.io help to import on demand and activate ready to use CoreOS/Docker/MEAN vm/container/application instances?

https://coreos.com/blog/CoreOS-enterprise-docker-registry/

FYI: I could be wrong with my current expectations to orchestrate/scale on demand CoreOS/Docker/MEAN stack - I'm still having just a superficial understanding on how all that stuff can work together....


Thank you.

-- Shamil


Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:13 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>That is so interesting that I actually stopped and watched the entire video presentation through my lunch time. Another great stack that I will keep a link to as for further reference.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Saturday, 7 February, 2015 1:47:03 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] JFYI: How to Build a M.E.A.N Web Application
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Link tells what it's about:
>
>http://travistidwell.com/blog/2015/01/20/how-to-build-a-mean-web-application/
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Feb  8 11:07:50 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 10:07:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Raspberry Pi 2 is susceptible to xenon flashes?
In-Reply-To: <1258275921.114159702.1422917889375.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <691507246.119413357.1423415270467.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Hi All:

The Raspberry PI 2 reacts to bright xenon (LED) flashes as the PI apparently hangs. How this is possible, I have no idea but there appears to be conclusive proof via a supporting video.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/08/raspberry_pi_2_camera_flash_glitch

Can anyone explain what is happening?

Jim

From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sun Feb  8 14:07:16 2015
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 15:07:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Raspberry Pi 2 is susceptible to xenon flashes?
In-Reply-To: <691507246.119413357.1423415270467.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <691507246.119413357.1423415270467.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <54D7C1F4.50102@torchlake.com>

Isn't that strange?  Noodling here, but have no clue, yet.  I really 
wonder what is happening there.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 2/8/2015 12:07 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> The Raspberry PI 2 reacts to bright xenon (LED) flashes as the PI apparently hangs. How this is possible, I have no idea but there appears to be conclusive proof via a supporting video.
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/08/raspberry_pi_2_camera_flash_glitch
>
> Can anyone explain what is happening?
>
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  9 15:51:21 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 14:51:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stamus, security for the network
In-Reply-To: <1423302423.227605171@f365.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <384349800.120372354.1423518681002.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Below is a link to a complete product, OS and application included. It is designed to run on a standalone server and sit on the edge of the network. All data from the network can then pass from the internet, in and out again.

It is designed to monitor all ports, addresses, protocols and activity going on within the LAN. It can either be run on the station with a full GUI and/or run in headless state via a secure web interface, from anywhere on the LAN or through the internet.

The system can automatically detect and block many activities that are not standard on the network or are directed to and from the internet. According to the developers, it capabilities match and many (most, according to the developers) cases surpassed high end and high priced security solutions used on many of the major companies. Now, every company, regardless of their financial depth can have a super secure network. You can download the full package, install the OS on a computer or/and download the source file and recompile it specifically for the computer on which the OS/application will be hosted:

https://www.stamus-networks.com

It uses a Debian core unlike most security packages that all seem to use CentOS. 

I wish this package was available when I was in the business, but then security issues and threats that are standard fare today, didn't exist then.

Jim  

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  9 16:13:51 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 15:13:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new Virtual Machine manager
In-Reply-To: <1423302423.227605171@f365.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <457866829.120390534.1423520031917.JavaMail.root@cds018>

It seems that more and more networks are becoming a mixture of various types of technologies and operation systems. We want to keep some older OS or older applications running or testbed new OSs, maybe share them over the network or web and maybe we have various VMs, running all over our network on a number of servers and stations and want to track and consolidate these resources.

There is a new application, called Virt-Manager the claims to be able to automatically or manually detect and manage a number of VMs of different protocols and standards, from a central location, via a web interface. (The product apparently comes from Red Hat labs):

http://virt-manager.org

This application may be Linux/BSD centric but it can easy monitor virtual Microsoft Windows computer as well...and anyway there less networks (Clouds), every day, that are just mono-culturals. 

Jim
 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb  9 17:20:49 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:20:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Safely do business
In-Reply-To: <1423302423.227605171@f365.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <132070629.120446559.1423524049054.JavaMail.root@cds018>

Take the following scenario.

You are travelling with family, you are staying at a strange hotel and are using their guest computers or even your own computer, in your room. Now you know these computers are running on some WiFi network, one that could be monitored by some hotel staff member or even some guy across the street sitting in a cafe. You want to transfer some money from one account to another or/and do some month end finances. So how is this going to be accomplished without the possibility of you and your accounts being hacked?

Well, think of the latest version of a package called Tails:

https://tails.boum.org

If the application is installed on a USB or CDRom disk you can just boot into a "live" OS session, that is outside the existing network and is completely secure. Unless the remote receipt computer has been compromised there is absolutely no way you information can be hacked. When the data is being transferred back and forth, until it is displayed on your screen, no crooks, governments, businesses or even yourself can lock, block or read the data...it is absolutely encrypted...with military grade encryption.

Jim    

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 18:22:21 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:22:21 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g6ZrcYHJhnGF6UA4F3Qn8AxEv__qtimeL5SW4uxRC4gw@mail.gmail.com>

For reasons I cannot fathom, something has happened to the sound system on
my laptop. The volume control is set to 100% but no sound comes out, no
matter which program I try. I don't often play music or vids on my laptop,
so I don't know for how long this situation has been the case. Any
suggestions how I can track down the problem?

It's a Dell Inspiron with Windows 8.1, and it used to work just fine. Any
suggestions much appreciated.

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Feb 10 18:39:18 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 16:39:18 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g6ZrcYHJhnGF6UA4F3Qn8AxEv__qtimeL5SW4uxRC4gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1g6ZrcYHJhnGF6UA4F3Qn8AxEv__qtimeL5SW4uxRC4gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D6DF463FF7544358000CF12DDE9A013@HAL9007>

I had that problem with my Dell laptop a long time ago and had to reinstall
the drivers.  Of course you should never have to do that, should you? :)
But something hosed it up. So that fixed it.  Does the device manager tell
you anything?

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle

For reasons I cannot fathom, something has happened to the sound system on
my laptop. The volume control is set to 100% but no sound comes out, no
matter which program I try. I don't often play music or vids on my laptop,
so I don't know for how long this situation has been the case. Any
suggestions how I can track down the problem?

It's a Dell Inspiron with Windows 8.1, and it used to work just fine. Any
suggestions much appreciated.

--
Arthur
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 10 21:52:30 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:52:30 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g6ZrcYHJhnGF6UA4F3Qn8AxEv__qtimeL5SW4uxRC4gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1g6ZrcYHJhnGF6UA4F3Qn8AxEv__qtimeL5SW4uxRC4gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ff01d045ae$29bcf5e0$7d36e1a0$@winhaven.net>

Make sure the sound keys are not muted. Some laptops have an annoying set of
volume controls. Some used to even have a manual sound wheel which once
physically turned off had to be physically turned back on - the software
settings wouldn't affect it at all!

Otherwise try a system restore to the last time it worked - should remove
any driver problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle

For reasons I cannot fathom, something has happened to the sound system on
my laptop. The volume control is set to 100% but no sound comes out, no
matter which program I try. I don't often play music or vids on my laptop,
so I don't know for how long this situation has been the case. Any
suggestions how I can track down the problem?

It's a Dell Inspiron with Windows 8.1, and it used to work just fine. Any
suggestions much appreciated.

--
Arthur
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Wed Feb 11 02:39:05 2015
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:39:05 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle
In-Reply-To: <00ff01d045ae$29bcf5e0$7d36e1a0$@winhaven.net>
References: <CAEPJO1g6ZrcYHJhnGF6UA4F3Qn8AxEv__qtimeL5SW4uxRC4gw@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ff01d045ae$29bcf5e0$7d36e1a0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <911d9e8e199b4a9082c6536d57f97658@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Before you do the system restore, go to Device Manager and  "delete" the audio devices WITHOUT uninstalling the driver. Then do a scan for hardware changes, and it should pick them right back up again.

We've had the same thing a number of times here and that's fixed it.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 3:53 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle
Importance: High

Make sure the sound keys are not muted. Some laptops have an annoying set of volume controls. Some used to even have a manual sound wheel which once physically turned off had to be physically turned back on - the software settings wouldn't affect it at all!

Otherwise try a system restore to the last time it worked - should remove any driver problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle

For reasons I cannot fathom, something has happened to the sound system on my laptop. The volume control is set to 100% but no sound comes out, no matter which program I try. I don't often play music or vids on my laptop, so I don't know for how long this situation has been the case. Any suggestions how I can track down the problem?

It's a Dell Inspiron with Windows 8.1, and it used to work just fine. Any suggestions much appreciated.

--
Arthur
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

________________________________
This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system.


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 11 11:48:15 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 12:48:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle
In-Reply-To: <911d9e8e199b4a9082c6536d57f97658@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <CAEPJO1g6ZrcYHJhnGF6UA4F3Qn8AxEv__qtimeL5SW4uxRC4gw@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ff01d045ae$29bcf5e0$7d36e1a0$@winhaven.net>
	<911d9e8e199b4a9082c6536d57f97658@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jkxvrVVqUT-K+b7xwmLBv2mTQ-3WNQki1uX_KP+uQt0A@mail.gmail.com>

"I" fixed it; not sure how or why, but why argue with success? I went into
the device manager, found the sound thing, selected it and clicked "Test".
And it worked! I noticed a checkbox to include the sign-on sound, so I
checked that too, and then rebooted. Presto.

Maybe the fact that I ran around the nearby synagogue three times,
lamenting "Say it ain't so, Jon Stuart!" had something to do with it. Maybe
God decided that it was just too much to take two things away from me on
the same day.

Arthur
?

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 11 18:08:04 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 17:08:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g6ZrcYHJhnGF6UA4F3Qn8AxEv__qtimeL5SW4uxRC4gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2133447144.1382154.1423699684854.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Arthur: 


? 


Assuming you have ran all the standard OS sound tests...apps and earphones and it is still not working, try removing and replacing the batteries and then call Dell... 


Jim 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> 
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:22:21 PM 
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle 

For reasons I cannot fathom, something has happened to the sound system on 
my laptop. The volume control is set to 100% but no sound comes out, no 
matter which program I try. I don't often play music or vids on my laptop, 
so I don't know for how long this situation has been the case. Any 
suggestions how I can track down the problem? 

It's a Dell Inspiron with Windows 8.1, and it used to work just fine. Any 
suggestions much appreciated. 

-- 
Arthur 
_______________________________________________ 
dba-Tech mailing list 
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com 
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech 
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 12 00:55:59 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:55:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jkxvrVVqUT-K+b7xwmLBv2mTQ-3WNQki1uX_KP+uQt0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2083089266.1653444.1423724159576.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Arthur:

Computer repair 101. ;-)

With Jon Stuart going and Stephen Colbert gone where will I get my credible news?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:48:15 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Sound puzzle

"I" fixed it; not sure how or why, but why argue with success? I went into
the device manager, found the sound thing, selected it and clicked "Test".
And it worked! I noticed a checkbox to include the sign-on sound, so I
checked that too, and then rebooted. Presto.

Maybe the fact that I ran around the nearby synagogue three times,
lamenting "Say it ain't so, Jon Stuart!" had something to do with it. Maybe
God decided that it was just too much to take two things away from me on
the same day.

Arthur
?
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Feb 13 17:43:13 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:43:13 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?BitTorrent_Sync_as_the_main_files=27_sync_so?=
 =?utf-8?q?lution_and_fallback_solutions?=
Message-ID: <1423870993.843907758@f18.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

BitTorrent Sync seems to be going into release out of Beta phase and is getting a paid version ( http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/32601-what-to-expect-next-from-sync/ ).
There will still be a free version but imagine it will be ceased and the BitTorret Sync program paid version will become very pricey (its price is OK with me currently)...

For such a very unlikely(?) event (of BitTorrent getting very pricey) what free/reasonably priced ?fallback solution would you propose to keep in mind for mere files synchronization (a few hundreds of MB daily) between several end points?

1. Box ( https://www.box.com/en_GB/personal/store-files-online/ ) ?
2. ...
3. ...
...

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Feb 14 03:27:21 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:27:21 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] BitTorrent Sync as the main files' sync solution and
 fallback solutions
In-Reply-To: <1423870993.843907758@f18.i.mail.ru>
References: <1423870993.843907758@f18.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1423906040121.94936@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

OneDrive. It's already on your Windows Phone: 

    https://onedrive.live.com/

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 14. februar 2015 00:43
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] BitTorrent Sync as the main files' sync solution and fallback solutions

 Hi All --

BitTorrent Sync seems to be going into release out of Beta phase and is getting a paid version ( http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/32601-what-to-expect-next-from-sync/ ).
There will still be a free version but imagine it will be ceased and the BitTorret Sync program paid version will become very pricey (its price is OK with me currently)...

For such a very unlikely(?) event (of BitTorrent getting very pricey) what free/reasonably priced  fallback solution would you propose to keep in mind for mere files synchronization (a few hundreds of MB daily) between several end points?

1. Box ( https://www.box.com/en_GB/personal/store-files-online/ ) ?
2. ...
3. ...
...

Thank you.

--
???????????? ??????


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb 14 04:42:05 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:42:05 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?BitTorrent_Sync_as_the_main_files=27_sync_so?=
 =?utf-8?q?lution_and_fallback_solutions?=
In-Reply-To: <1423906040121.94936@cactus.dk>
References: <1423870993.843907758@f18.i.mail.ru>
	<1423906040121.94936@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1423910525.206501650@f53.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for your reply.

I have just checked - OneDrive doesn't support creating new Groups anymore.

http://windowsitpro.com/cloud/microsoft-onedrive-groups-gone

Using Groups to share data between a set of different setup configurations, one Group for every special set of setups - this would have worked best of all.?
Without Groups it would still work of course. I will keep it as possible fallback solution.

And BitTorrent Sync free version does't need any registered accounts and cloud storage is never used. The latter option could be considered as advantage or disadvantage - I'm considering it as an advantage as in theory it allows to share very large files (I don't need this option currently). Also BitTorrent Protocol ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent ) is a key to optimize data transfer/exchange speed by using nearest pear to get files to sync, and BitTorrent Sync is able to sync only a changed part of file so, if, e.g., I will be writing to a file, only its "tail" part will be synchronized....

Thank you.

-- Shamil



Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:27 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>OneDrive. It's already on your Windows Phone: 
>
>???? https://onedrive.live.com/
>
>/gustav
>
>________________________________________
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: 14. februar 2015 00:43
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: [dba-Tech] BitTorrent Sync as the main files' sync solution and fallback solutions
>
>?Hi All --
>
>BitTorrent Sync seems to be going into release out of Beta phase and is getting a paid version (  http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/32601-what-to-expect-next-from-sync/ ).
>There will still be a free version but imagine it will be ceased and the BitTorret Sync program paid version will become very pricey (its price is OK with me currently)...
>
>For such a very unlikely(?) event (of BitTorrent getting very pricey) what free/reasonably priced  fallback solution would you propose to keep in mind for mere files synchronization (a few hundreds of MB daily) between several end points?
>
>1. Box (  https://www.box.com/en_GB/personal/store-files-online/ ) ?
>2. ...
>3. ...
>...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>???????????? ??????
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From df.waters at outlook.com  Mon Feb 16 08:35:58 2015
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:35:58 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Add New List for Visual Studio?
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS30B7B85AFAF3EAE201508F62E0@phx.gbl>

Everyone:

 

I'd like to suggest adding a new list.  This would be named dba-VS, for
Visual Studio.  

 

A lot of us are now programming using what is MS's primary development tool,
and I think this warrants a specific list.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

Dan


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Feb 16 08:40:43 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 06:40:43 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Add New List for Visual Studio?
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-DS30B7B85AFAF3EAE201508F62E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU176-DS30B7B85AFAF3EAE201508F62E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <727A17CF72A24B53B26045D8B5BC1851@HAL9007>

I think that's a good idea.  It's a very low-cost thing to test.  If you're
right about the demand, it will extend the usefulness of dba which needs in
any event to evolve to respond to changing technology.

Rocky 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software
issues'; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software
issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Add New List for Visual Studio?

Everyone:

 

I'd like to suggest adding a new list.  This would be named dba-VS, for
Visual Studio.  

 

A lot of us are now programming using what is MS's primary development tool,
and I think this warrants a specific list.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

Dan

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 09:10:44 2015
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:10:44 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Add New List for Visual Studio?
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-DS30B7B85AFAF3EAE201508F62E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU176-DS30B7B85AFAF3EAE201508F62E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9A7896E4-1962-4C47-9FC5-76A8CF186E84@gmail.com>

First of all, I want to state that I am not opposed to this idea, but I think we had discussed this before and decided to use the DBA-vb list for visual studio until/unless there was a need for a separate list?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Everyone:
> 
> 
> 
> I'd like to suggest adding a new list.  This would be named dba-VS, for
> Visual Studio.  
> 
> 
> 
> A lot of us are now programming using what is MS's primary development tool,
> and I think this warrants a specific list.
> 
> 
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dan
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 16 10:34:21 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (peter.brawley at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:34:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Add New List for Visual Studio?
Message-ID: <153629571.37936.1424104461083.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-gadwalls.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Especially since price is no longer a bar, there're going to be a lot more VS users. VB is but one MS language, and much less popular than C#, I would like to see a dba-tech VS list.

PB

-----

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jeff" <jeff.developer at gmail.com>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 02/16/15 10:10 AM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: "<dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>" <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>, "<dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>, "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] Add New List for Visual Studio?
First of all, I want to state that I am not opposed to this idea, but I think we had discussed this before and decided to use the DBA-vb list for visual studio until/unless there was a need for a separate list?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Everyone:
> 
> 
> 
> I'd like to suggest adding a new list.  This would be named dba-VS, for
> Visual Studio.  
> 
> 
> 
> A lot of us are now programming using what is MS's primary development tool,
> and I think this warrants a specific list.
> 
> 
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dan
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

---- End Original Message ----

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 17 11:38:30 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:38:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Malware
In-Reply-To: <132070629.120446559.1423524049054.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <2098817794.1584112.1424194710429.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

As the following link describes, in this time of integrated systems, it is virtually impossible to protect an OS against being hacked. All systems are so complex that someone with time, willing to employ a little effort and bit of knowledge can dig through any level of protection. Even the latest operating systems, right off the "show room floor", so to speak, are easy prey...all it takes is one bit. Take Window10 for example:

http://breakingmalware.com/vulnerabilities/one-bit-rule-bypassing-windows-10-protections-using-single-bit

The above article has a very interesting description and shows, in the broadest of strokes, the coding and method as to how this intrusion can take place.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 17 11:40:53 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:40:53 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] More Cloud storage
In-Reply-To: <132070629.120446559.1423524049054.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <51196436.1586135.1424194853332.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Google drive is offering a couple more GBs of Cloud storage for just checking your account.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/secure-your-google-account-and-get-2-gb-of-drive-storage/

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 17 16:51:26 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:51:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] BitTorrent Sync as the main files' sync solution and
 fallback solutions
In-Reply-To: <1423870993.843907758@f18.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <2137693201.1950465.1424213486852.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

If you are looking around for a replacement maybe try the app Syncthing might be the ticket:

http://syncthing.net/

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:43:13 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] BitTorrent Sync as the main files' sync solution and fallback solutions

 Hi All --

BitTorrent Sync seems to be going into release out of Beta phase and is getting a paid version ( http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/32601-what-to-expect-next-from-sync/ ).
There will still be a free version but imagine it will be ceased and the BitTorret Sync program paid version will become very pricey (its price is OK with me currently)...

For such a very unlikely(?) event (of BitTorrent getting very pricey) what free/reasonably priced ?fallback solution would you propose to keep in mind for mere files synchronization (a few hundreds of MB daily) between several end points?

1. Box ( https://www.box.com/en_GB/personal/store-files-online/ ) ?
2. ...
3. ...
...

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 18 02:46:31 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 01:46:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?b?4oCcT21uaXBvdGVudOKAnSBoYWNrZXJzIHRpZWQgdG8g?=
	=?utf-8?q?NSA?=
In-Reply-To: <1095408792.2282852.1424248990760.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <736111408.2283724.1424249191734.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

There is a new level of spy ware  (malware) most likely from the NSA. This software is burnt right into a hard drives' firmware and as of yet, can not be removed. It seems that hard drive producers like Samsung, Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor, Toshiba, and Hitachi have this malware installed on them. Also USB manufactures seem to have a similar piece of code wired into them. The discovery of this malware is thanks to Kaspersky Labs; the world's leading virus protection organization.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/16/8048243/nsa-hard-drive-firmware-virus-stuxnet 

Here is a further explanation of the associated viruses, their level distribution and a description of how they actually work. To say the least it is brilliant and the associated software have completely infested all Windows operation systems and have even been found in Apples iOS. The below article is a very good read for those who enjoy digging into the details 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last
...and a PDF file from Kaspersky Labs...
https://securelist.com/files/2015/02/Equation_group_questions_and_answers.pdf

It should be noted that as far as Kaspersky is concerned, only Windows and Apple products are infected. It has not been found in Linux because of its transparent nature...a good reason to mistrust proprietary operating systems and software. Any company and country who is in the scope of NSA would be well advised avoid the range of contaminated operating systems.   

Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 09:44:23 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:44:23 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another shortcut I didn't know about
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gj=tGUag6zZ1TCm_upQabX5peb5xQyXuUev4Yo=W8M7A@mail.gmail.com>

In Windows 8.1, Win+X opens a power-user menu that contains commands for
power users, listing these commands:

Programs and Features
Mobility Center
Power Options
Event Viewer
System
Device Manager
Network Connections
Disk Management
Computer Management
Command Prompt
Command Prompt (Admin)
Task Manager
Control Panel
File Explorer
Search
Run
Shut down or sign out
Desktop

-- 
Arthur

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Feb 18 09:49:36 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:49:36 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another shortcut I didn't know about
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB09137BE853C64D1A9ACC484ECA2C0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

Or you can right-click the Windows icon.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 18. februar 2015 16:44
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] Another shortcut I didn't know about

In Windows 8.1, Win+X opens a power-user menu that contains commands for power users, listing these commands:

Programs and Features
Mobility Center
Power Options
Event Viewer
System
Device Manager
Network Connections
Disk Management
Computer Management
Command Prompt
Command Prompt (Admin)
Task Manager
Control Panel
File Explorer
Search
Run
Shut down or sign out
Desktop

--
Arthur 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Feb 19 12:37:57 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:37:57 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?BitTorrent_Sync_as_the_main_files=27_sync_so?=
 =?utf-8?q?lution_and_fallback_solutions?=
In-Reply-To: <2137693201.1950465.1424213486852.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1423870993.843907758@f18.i.mail.ru>
	<2137693201.1950465.1424213486852.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1424371077.15945701@f303.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Thank you, yes,? syncthing.net ?looks like a good fallback solution.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:51 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>If you are looking around for a replacement maybe try the app Syncthing might be the ticket:
>
>http://syncthing.net/
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:43:13 PM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] BitTorrent Sync as the main files' sync solution and fallback solutions
>
>?Hi All --
>
>BitTorrent Sync seems to be going into release out of Beta phase and is getting a paid version (  http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/32601-what-to-expect-next-from-sync/ ).
>There will still be a free version but imagine it will be ceased and the BitTorret Sync program paid version will become very pricey (its price is OK with me currently)...
>
>For such a very unlikely(?) event (of BitTorrent getting very pricey) what free/reasonably priced ?fallback solution would you propose to keep in mind for mere files synchronization (a few hundreds of MB daily) between several end points?
>
>1. Box (  https://www.box.com/en_GB/personal/store-files-online/ ) ?
>2. ...
>3. ...
>...
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 15:23:44 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:23:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>

A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a very
good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why she
wants a watermark.

She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic format
I should save the watermark file as?

Susan H.

From garykjos at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 15:46:00 2015
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:46:00 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>

I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some familiarity
with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type file
like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the watermark
file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose JPG.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a very
> good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why she
> wants a watermark.
>
> She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic format
> I should save the watermark file as?
>
> Susan H.
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 15:50:33 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:50:33 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>

I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty universal, so
I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought someone
might know for sure.

Susan H.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some familiarity
> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type file
> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the watermark
> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose JPG.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a
> very
> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why
> she
> > wants a watermark.
> >
> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic
> format
> > I should save the watermark file as?
> >
> > Susan H.
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From garykjos at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 15:54:34 2015
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:54:34 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>

This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....


http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark



On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty universal, so
> I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought someone
> might know for sure.
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some familiarity
>> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type file
>> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the watermark
>> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
>> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
>> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose JPG.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a
>> very
>> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why
>> she
>> > wants a watermark.
>> >
>> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic
>> format
>> > I should save the watermark file as?
>> >
>> > Susan H.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > dba-Tech mailing list
>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gary Kjos
>> garykjos at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From garykjos at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 15:59:27 2015
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:59:27 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pKhLS6FV+xC=HhcA6MfFes=bhgpyB6eqV_MOmg_BspFmw@mail.gmail.com>

I see that there are also digital watermarks that don't show to people
viewing the image but won't allow editing.

GK

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
>
>
> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty universal, so
>> I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought someone
>> might know for sure.
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some familiarity
>>> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type file
>>> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the watermark
>>> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
>>> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
>>> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose JPG.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a
>>> very
>>> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why
>>> she
>>> > wants a watermark.
>>> >
>>> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic
>>> format
>>> > I should save the watermark file as?
>>> >
>>> > Susan H.
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > dba-Tech mailing list
>>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary Kjos
>>> garykjos at gmail.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 16:28:42 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:28:42 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_pKhLS6FV+xC=HhcA6MfFes=bhgpyB6eqV_MOmg_BspFmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKhLS6FV+xC=HhcA6MfFes=bhgpyB6eqV_MOmg_BspFmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+d6Je5wNVY6Nfe3=ckxsB3dibps88OQ2JGh3RbYYn1=_Q@mail.gmail.com>

I think she's wants her name on them -- kind of a brand.

Susan H.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see that there are also digital watermarks that don't show to people
> viewing the image but won't allow editing.
>
> GK
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
> >
> >
> > http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty
> universal, so
> >> I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought
> someone
> >> might know for sure.
> >>
> >> Susan H.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some familiarity
> >>> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type file
> >>> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the watermark
> >>> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
> >>> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
> >>> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose JPG.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a
> >>> very
> >>> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand
> why
> >>> she
> >>> > wants a watermark.
> >>> >
> >>> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic
> >>> format
> >>> > I should save the watermark file as?
> >>> >
> >>> > Susan H.
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > dba-Tech mailing list
> >>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Gary Kjos
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> dba-Tech mailing list
> >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 16:31:46 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:31:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+cQ=Zw5TkQNMwmRcSgnYQfRkTC6kP60XBJM_frfjnLNKg@mail.gmail.com>

That shows you how to insert the watermark. I need to create the watermark
itself for her.

Susan H.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
>
>
> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty universal,
> so
> > I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought
> someone
> > might know for sure.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some familiarity
> >> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type file
> >> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the watermark
> >> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
> >> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
> >> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose JPG.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a
> >> very
> >> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why
> >> she
> >> > wants a watermark.
> >> >
> >> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic
> >> format
> >> > I should save the watermark file as?
> >> >
> >> > Susan H.
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary Kjos
> >> garykjos at gmail.com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From garykjos at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 16:59:25 2015
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:59:25 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+cQ=Zw5TkQNMwmRcSgnYQfRkTC6kP60XBJM_frfjnLNKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cQ=Zw5TkQNMwmRcSgnYQfRkTC6kP60XBJM_frfjnLNKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pJec+=bnwb2Urh4PXBQs2W+kVA1u6JUTTZKxFVX2QUzgw@mail.gmail.com>

OK, how about this one then.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/how-to-make-a-watermark/

Use the Paint Accessory.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> That shows you how to insert the watermark. I need to create the watermark
> itself for her.
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
>>
>>
>> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty universal,
>> so
>> > I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought
>> someone
>> > might know for sure.
>> >
>> > Susan H.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some familiarity
>> >> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type file
>> >> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the watermark
>> >> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
>> >> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
>> >> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose JPG.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a
>> >> very
>> >> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why
>> >> she
>> >> > wants a watermark.
>> >> >
>> >> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic
>> >> format
>> >> > I should save the watermark file as?
>> >> >
>> >> > Susan H.
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > dba-Tech mailing list
>> >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary Kjos
>> >> garykjos at gmail.com
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> dba-Tech mailing list
>> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > dba-Tech mailing list
>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gary Kjos
>> garykjos at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 17:14:25 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 18:14:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_pJec+=bnwb2Urh4PXBQs2W+kVA1u6JUTTZKxFVX2QUzgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cQ=Zw5TkQNMwmRcSgnYQfRkTC6kP60XBJM_frfjnLNKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJec+=bnwb2Urh4PXBQs2W+kVA1u6JUTTZKxFVX2QUzgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+emBfwgw0zFVd-ohdpPXW7ysRT=7Ontn+Wv3hUBtM5KoA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you -- I was going to use Paint. That article offers some good
insight.

Susan H.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, how about this one then.
>
> http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/how-to-make-a-watermark/
>
> Use the Paint Accessory.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > That shows you how to insert the watermark. I need to create the
> watermark
> > itself for her.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty
> universal,
> >> so
> >> > I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought
> >> someone
> >> > might know for sure.
> >> >
> >> > Susan H.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some familiarity
> >> >> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type
> file
> >> >> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the watermark
> >> >> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
> >> >> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
> >> >> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose
> JPG.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures.
> She's a
> >> >> very
> >> >> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand
> why
> >> >> she
> >> >> > wants a watermark.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic
> >> >> format
> >> >> > I should save the watermark file as?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Susan H.
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> >> >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary Kjos
> >> >> garykjos at gmail.com
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary Kjos
> >> garykjos at gmail.com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 19:08:49 2015
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:08:49 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+emBfwgw0zFVd-ohdpPXW7ysRT=7Ontn+Wv3hUBtM5KoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cQ=Zw5TkQNMwmRcSgnYQfRkTC6kP60XBJM_frfjnLNKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJec+=bnwb2Urh4PXBQs2W+kVA1u6JUTTZKxFVX2QUzgw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+emBfwgw0zFVd-ohdpPXW7ysRT=7Ontn+Wv3hUBtM5KoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWHfvWYtpJgf5DRGWFhEQ7vD4JU_HYeEXF2QbjLYT3WULA@mail.gmail.com>

Depending on how she wants them displayed, you may be better off with a PNG
with a transparent background.

A jpg will have the background shown when she pastes it on top of her
pictures. But with a transparent png , it will only be the non-transparent
that are seen

The other option is to give ot to her as a PSD (Photoshop format) then she
can manipulate it as much as she wants.

Bryan
On Feb 21, 2015 6:14 PM, "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you -- I was going to use Paint. That article offers some good
> insight.
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > OK, how about this one then.
> >
> > http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/how-to-make-a-watermark/
> >
> > Use the Paint Accessory.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > That shows you how to insert the watermark. I need to create the
> > watermark
> > > itself for her.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty
> > universal,
> > >> so
> > >> > I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought
> > >> someone
> > >> > might know for sure.
> > >> >
> > >> > Susan H.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some
> familiarity
> > >> >> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type
> > file
> > >> >> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the
> watermark
> > >> >> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
> > >> >> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
> > >> >> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose
> > JPG.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <
> ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures.
> > She's a
> > >> >> very
> > >> >> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I
> understand
> > why
> > >> >> she
> > >> >> > wants a watermark.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what
> graphic
> > >> >> format
> > >> >> > I should save the watermark file as?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Susan H.
> > >> >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > >> >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >> >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Gary Kjos
> > >> >> garykjos at gmail.com
> > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > >> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > >> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >> >>
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Gary Kjos
> > >> garykjos at gmail.com
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 19:18:59 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:18:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWHfvWYtpJgf5DRGWFhEQ7vD4JU_HYeEXF2QbjLYT3WULA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cQ=Zw5TkQNMwmRcSgnYQfRkTC6kP60XBJM_frfjnLNKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJec+=bnwb2Urh4PXBQs2W+kVA1u6JUTTZKxFVX2QUzgw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+emBfwgw0zFVd-ohdpPXW7ysRT=7Ontn+Wv3hUBtM5KoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWHfvWYtpJgf5DRGWFhEQ7vD4JU_HYeEXF2QbjLYT3WULA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+e2zZq4xA9u-AJ+j52fb2jsH6S0Q5pQQOLJx6+EqZLxww@mail.gmail.com>

I can make a jpg transparent. I can give it to her in both formats. I don't
know about psd, I'll take a look. Thanks Bryan!

Susan H.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Depending on how she wants them displayed, you may be better off with a PNG
> with a transparent background.
>
> A jpg will have the background shown when she pastes it on top of her
> pictures. But with a transparent png , it will only be the non-transparent
> that are seen
>
> The other option is to give ot to her as a PSD (Photoshop format) then she
> can manipulate it as much as she wants.
>
> Bryan
> On Feb 21, 2015 6:14 PM, "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you -- I was going to use Paint. That article offers some good
> > insight.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > OK, how about this one then.
> > >
> > > http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/how-to-make-a-watermark/
> > >
> > > Use the Paint Accessory.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > That shows you how to insert the watermark. I need to create the
> > > watermark
> > > > itself for her.
> > > >
> > > > Susan H.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do
> it....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty
> > > universal,
> > > >> so
> > > >> > I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought
> > > >> someone
> > > >> > might know for sure.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Susan H.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some
> > familiarity
> > > >> >> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo type
> > > file
> > > >> >> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the
> > watermark
> > > >> >> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
> > > >> >> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
> > > >> >> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose
> > > JPG.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <
> > ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures.
> > > She's a
> > > >> >> very
> > > >> >> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I
> > understand
> > > why
> > > >> >> she
> > > >> >> > wants a watermark.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what
> > graphic
> > > >> >> format
> > > >> >> > I should save the watermark file as?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Susan H.
> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________
> > > >> >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > >> >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > >> >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > >> >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Gary Kjos
> > > >> >> garykjos at gmail.com
> > > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > > >> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > >> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > >> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Gary Kjos
> > > >> garykjos at gmail.com
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >>
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary Kjos
> > > garykjos at gmail.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sun Feb 22 09:44:54 2015
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:44:54 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+e2zZq4xA9u-AJ+j52fb2jsH6S0Q5pQQOLJx6+EqZLxww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cQ=Zw5TkQNMwmRcSgnYQfRkTC6kP60XBJM_frfjnLNKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pJec+=bnwb2Urh4PXBQs2W+kVA1u6JUTTZKxFVX2QUzgw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+emBfwgw0zFVd-ohdpPXW7ysRT=7Ontn+Wv3hUBtM5KoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWHfvWYtpJgf5DRGWFhEQ7vD4JU_HYeEXF2QbjLYT3WULA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+e2zZq4xA9u-AJ+j52fb2jsH6S0Q5pQQOLJx6+EqZLxww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWHSPB-rNDq1YW_wONQp+0u+YCiSWkSri3YJiiveiYp30A@mail.gmail.com>

JPGs don't support transparency so even if you do create and save it with a
transparent background, when it gets reopened the transparent sections will
most likely be white.

B
On Feb 21, 2015 8:19 PM, "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can make a jpg transparent. I can give it to her in both formats. I don't
> know about psd, I'll take a look. Thanks Bryan!
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Depending on how she wants them displayed, you may be better off with a
> PNG
> > with a transparent background.
> >
> > A jpg will have the background shown when she pastes it on top of her
> > pictures. But with a transparent png , it will only be the
> non-transparent
> > that are seen
> >
> > The other option is to give ot to her as a PSD (Photoshop format) then
> she
> > can manipulate it as much as she wants.
> >
> > Bryan
> > On Feb 21, 2015 6:14 PM, "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you -- I was going to use Paint. That article offers some good
> > > insight.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, how about this one then.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/how-to-make-a-watermark/
> > > >
> > > > Use the Paint Accessory.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > That shows you how to insert the watermark. I need to create the
> > > > watermark
> > > > > itself for her.
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan H.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do
> > it....
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <
> ssharkins at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty
> > > > universal,
> > > > >> so
> > > > >> > I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just
> thought
> > > > >> someone
> > > > >> > might know for sure.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Susan H.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some
> > > familiarity
> > > > >> >> with photo editing software and I think that a regular photo
> type
> > > > file
> > > > >> >> like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be pasting the
> > > watermark
> > > > >> >> file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working
> on.
> > > > >> >> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers.
> Not
> > > > >> >> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would
> choose
> > > > JPG.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins <
> > > ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures.
> > > > She's a
> > > > >> >> very
> > > > >> >> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I
> > > understand
> > > > why
> > > > >> >> she
> > > > >> >> > wants a watermark.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what
> > > graphic
> > > > >> >> format
> > > > >> >> > I should save the watermark file as?
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Susan H.
> > > > >> >> > _______________________________________________
> > > > >> >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > > >> >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >> >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > > >> >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> --
> > > > >> >> Gary Kjos
> > > > >> >> garykjos at gmail.com
> > > > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > > > >> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > > >> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > > >> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > > >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > > >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Gary Kjos
> > > > >> garykjos at gmail.com
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > > > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >>
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gary Kjos
> > > > garykjos at gmail.com
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dba-Tech mailing list
> > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Feb 22 09:50:44 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:50:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+drAU0MguQmfb0GrkuXzuENuZP7Hi=YLssQ2X0A3uUmcQ@mail.gmail.com>

Well Bryan, that explains a lot -- I didn't know that. I had to go test
that and you're absolutely right! I can remove the background and copy it
that way, but I can't save that change to the actual file. Amazing that I
didn't realize that. Thank you!

Susan H.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
wrote:

> JPGs don't support transparency so even if you do create and save it with a
> transparent background, when it gets reopened the transparent sections will
> most likely be white.
>
> B
> On Feb 21, 2015 8:19 PM, "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I can make a jpg transparent. I can give it to her in both formats. I
> don't
> > know about psd, I'll take a look. Thanks Bryan!
> >
> >

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sun Feb 22 10:53:23 2015
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:53:23 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+drAU0MguQmfb0GrkuXzuENuZP7Hi=YLssQ2X0A3uUmcQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+drAU0MguQmfb0GrkuXzuENuZP7Hi=YLssQ2X0A3uUmcQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWGrGVw78=MxDCD+E2NAoxcJ91tykviEU9J=+gGYtT4iXQ@mail.gmail.com>

No problem.

Since she may be using Photoshop, I'd go with a PSD that way she can easily
change the individual components of the image as necessary.

I'm assuming that she wants her name and/or website and a copyright year on
the watermark, so if you can, make each of those as separate layers in
Photoshop, if her website address changes, then it's a quick and easy
change, same for a new watermark with next years date on it.

But if she just wants simple, then PNG is the way to go, IMO.

B
Well Bryan, that explains a lot -- I didn't know that. I had to go test
that and you're absolutely right! I can remove the background and copy it
that way, but I can't save that change to the actual file. Amazing that I
didn't realize that. Thank you!

Susan H.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
wrote:

> JPGs don't support transparency so even if you do create and save it with
a
> transparent background, when it gets reopened the transparent sections
will
> most likely be white.
>
> B
> On Feb 21, 2015 8:19 PM, "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I can make a jpg transparent. I can give it to her in both formats. I
> don't
> > know about psd, I'll take a look. Thanks Bryan!
> >
> >
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Feb 22 11:01:53 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:01:53 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWGrGVw78=MxDCD+E2NAoxcJ91tykviEU9J=+gGYtT4iXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+drAU0MguQmfb0GrkuXzuENuZP7Hi=YLssQ2X0A3uUmcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWGrGVw78=MxDCD+E2NAoxcJ91tykviEU9J=+gGYtT4iXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+dTQZwoF9dfJY3tGbVCzzcfydOSBydFzVzt4mxiZ1d+7A@mail.gmail.com>

Paint doesn't save to PSD, so PNG it is. :)

Susan H.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No problem.
>
> Since she may be using Photoshop, I'd go with a PSD that way she can easily
> change the individual components of the image as necessary.
>
> I'm assuming that she wants her name and/or website and a copyright year on
> the watermark, so if you can, make each of those as separate layers in
> Photoshop, if her website address changes, then it's a quick and easy
> change, same for a new watermark with next years date on it.
>
> But if she just wants simple, then PNG is the way to go, IMO.
>
> B
> Well Bryan, that explains a lot -- I didn't know that. I had to go test
> that and you're absolutely right! I can remove the background and copy it
> that way, but I can't save that change to the actual file. Amazing that I
> didn't realize that. Thank you!
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > JPGs don't support transparency so even if you do create and save it with
> a
> > transparent background, when it gets reopened the transparent sections
> will
> > most likely be white.
> >
> > B
> > On Feb 21, 2015 8:19 PM, "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I can make a jpg transparent. I can give it to her in both formats. I
> > don't
> > > know about psd, I'll take a look. Thanks Bryan!
> > >
> > >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Feb 23 00:07:54 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:07:54 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAEYCyN5P/bJBrYSSOqub7FoChQAAEAAAACmvyBR+1Y9EigEpgJb7gSkBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>

Hi Susan,
Just saw this. For a watermark you will want to make it a format that
supports transparency. Since she's using Photoshop .psd would be the best
format but you probably can't do that. You could do .png which is an OS
format or use .gif

She could then place that image into a new layer and move it about freely,
turn it on or off or resize it easily without doing anything to the original
photo.

Good luck,
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 3:24 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software

A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a very
good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why she
wants a watermark.

She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic format I
should save the watermark file as?

Susan H.
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 04:37:26 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 05:37:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Labs
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i7kcCAgKB4PESRTun2_E1W6wYOswF-4PLFF8HGL4N0Aw@mail.gmail.com>

For users of Gmail, I just received a mail describing how to enable various
Google Labs, about which I previously knew nothing. I've just installed
several of them and they are quite cool. One of the most valuable, IMO,
changes the look of Gmail to provide an Outlook-like Preview Pane, so you
can still see the Inbox list whilst previewing any given message. Another
lab adds a "Mark as Read" button to the toolbar, so you no longer have to
select the More drop down and then Mark as Read -- a small thing but given
the repetition of that command in daily use, quite useful.

To browse the list of available labs, open Gmail, click the gear icon on
the upper right of the screen to open Settings, and finally click the Labs
item on the horizontal menu. You will see a browse-list of Labs and a pair
of radio buttons for Enable and Disable.

Final note: these are not extensions, but rather enhancements created by
members of the Gmail development team.

Now if only they'd add the other feature I miss from Outlook -- the audible
not that informs me of newly arrived messages.
-- 
Arthur

From jon at tydda.plus.com  Mon Feb 23 05:28:53 2015
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:28:53 -0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003201d04f5b$e871ba50$b9552ef0$@tydda.plus.com>

I just use text on mine, that's easy enough to do in LightRoom.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 21 February 2015 21:24
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software

A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a very
good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why she
wants a watermark.

She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic format I
should save the watermark file as?

Susan H.
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 06:49:22 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:49:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAEYCyN5P/bJBrYSSOqub7FoChQAAEAAAACmvyBR+1Y9EigEpgJb7gSkBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAEYCyN5P/bJBrYSSOqub7FoChQAAEAAAACmvyBR+1Y9EigEpgJb7gSkBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+eTAEGVpWag8xn81pfqw3Zp8wVRtwO55a5Qi-ft2g9+6A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks -- that's what Bryan and I were discussing yesterday. The one thing
I'm wondering about is color and position. She might need more than one
watermark. In Photoshop, can she change the watermark's font color or move
it to the top or bottom, right or left?

Susan H.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:07 AM, John R Bartow <jbartow at winhaven.net> wrote:

> Hi Susan,
> Just saw this. For a watermark you will want to make it a format that
> supports transparency. Since she's using Photoshop .psd would be the best
> format but you probably can't do that. You could do .png which is an OS
> format or use .gif
>
> She could then place that image into a new layer and move it about freely,
> turn it on or off or resize it easily without doing anything to the
> original
> photo.
>
> Good luck,
> John B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 3:24 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
>
> A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a very
> good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why she
> wants a watermark.
>
> She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic format
> I
> should save the watermark file as?
>
> Susan H.
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 07:14:12 2015
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:14:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+eTAEGVpWag8xn81pfqw3Zp8wVRtwO55a5Qi-ft2g9+6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAEYCyN5P/bJBrYSSOqub7FoChQAAEAAAACmvyBR+1Y9EigEpgJb7gSkBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>
	<CA++Sg+eTAEGVpWag8xn81pfqw3Zp8wVRtwO55a5Qi-ft2g9+6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWGp6nRSQCYM4GjxoX_ruYXy4Ue-J++zhec8jPxsx4LmTA@mail.gmail.com>

If it's a PNG, no she won't be able to easily change the text colour.
But yes she will be able to place it where she wants it, and can scale
it.

If it's a PSD with layers, then yes, she should be able to easily
change the colour of the text. And she will still be able to place it
where and how big she wants it.

B

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks -- that's what Bryan and I were discussing yesterday. The one thing
> I'm wondering about is color and position. She might need more than one
> watermark. In Photoshop, can she change the watermark's font color or move
> it to the top or bottom, right or left?
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:07 AM, John R Bartow <jbartow at winhaven.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Susan,
>> Just saw this. For a watermark you will want to make it a format that
>> supports transparency. Since she's using Photoshop .psd would be the best
>> format but you probably can't do that. You could do .png which is an OS
>> format or use .gif
>>
>> She could then place that image into a new layer and move it about freely,
>> turn it on or off or resize it easily without doing anything to the
>> original
>> photo.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> John B
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 3:24 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
>>
>> A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a very
>> good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why she
>> wants a watermark.
>>
>> She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic format
>> I
>> should save the watermark file as?
>>
>> Susan H.
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Mon Feb 23 09:08:34 2015
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:08:34 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+d6Je5wNVY6Nfe3=ckxsB3dibps88OQ2JGh3RbYYn1=_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKhLS6FV+xC=HhcA6MfFes=bhgpyB6eqV_MOmg_BspFmw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+d6Je5wNVY6Nfe3=ckxsB3dibps88OQ2JGh3RbYYn1=_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA8202E0B@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>

LightRoom does that right out of the box. When the photos are 'exported' you can optionally include textual watermark. You can define the font size and color and position of the text in the final output file. No additional software required. :-)

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:29 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Photography software

I think she's wants her name on them -- kind of a brand.

Susan H.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see that there are also digital watermarks that don't show to people 
> viewing the image but won't allow editing.
>
> GK
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
> >
> >
> > http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty
> universal, so
> >> I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought
> someone
> >> might know for sure.
> >>
> >> Susan H.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some 
> >>> familiarity with photo editing software and I think that a regular 
> >>> photo type file like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be 
> >>> pasting the watermark file as a new layer on top of the photo she would be working on.
> >>> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not 
> >>> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose JPG.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins 
> >>> <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. 
> >>> > She's a
> >>> very
> >>> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I 
> >>> > understand
> why
> >>> she
> >>> > wants a watermark.
> >>> >
> >>> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what 
> >>> > graphic
> >>> format
> >>> > I should save the watermark file as?
> >>> >
> >>> > Susan H.
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > dba-Tech mailing list
> >>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Gary Kjos
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> dba-Tech mailing list
> >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Feb 23 10:18:13 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:18:13 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <003201d04f5b$e871ba50$b9552ef0$@tydda.plus.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<003201d04f5b$e871ba50$b9552ef0$@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <086a01d04f84$52c84b80$f858e280$@winhaven.net>

Good point.

I'm guessing Susan's friend is just starting out using both products. There
is very good online support for Adobe products. They use a lot of videos to
walk people through doing things.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 5:29 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Photography software

I just use text on mine, that's easy enough to do in LightRoom.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 21 February 2015 21:24
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software

A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures. She's a very
good photographer and shares many on social media, so I understand why she
wants a watermark.

She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what graphic format I
should save the watermark file as?

Susan H.
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 12:57:42 2015
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:57:42 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Labs
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i7kcCAgKB4PESRTun2_E1W6wYOswF-4PLFF8HGL4N0Aw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1i7kcCAgKB4PESRTun2_E1W6wYOswF-4PLFF8HGL4N0Aw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOY=wEK3GNoLS=apqj0avnScRihMuv-4J8J7-Q-=Bns_gaJ88w@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur,

I like the idea of seeing the list of messages while viewing one. I've been
using Gmail for so long that I've gotten used to it...BUT, I still like the
Outlook/Thunderbird list view with message view.

One thing that I wish the labs would come up with is a way to change the
default notification sound for Google Chat messages. It's so faint I often
miss it. I'd like to see a way to change that sound...and its volume. You
haven't seen anything like that, have you?

-- 
Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI



On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> For users of Gmail, I just received a mail describing how to enable various
> Google Labs, about which I previously knew nothing. I've just installed
> several of them and they are quite cool. One of the most valuable, IMO,
> changes the look of Gmail to provide an Outlook-like Preview Pane, so you
> can still see the Inbox list whilst previewing any given message. Another
> lab adds a "Mark as Read" button to the toolbar, so you no longer have to
> select the More drop down and then Mark as Read -- a small thing but given
> the repetition of that command in daily use, quite useful.
>
> To browse the list of available labs, open Gmail, click the gear icon on
> the upper right of the screen to open Settings, and finally click the Labs
> item on the horizontal menu. You will see a browse-list of Labs and a pair
> of radio buttons for Enable and Disable.
>
> Final note: these are not extensions, but rather enhancements created by
> members of the Gmail development team.
>
> Now if only they'd add the other feature I miss from Outlook -- the audible
> not that informs me of newly arrived messages.
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From jwcolby at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 13:12:03 2015
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:12:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition
Message-ID: <54EB7B83.1080103@gmail.com>

How many of you guys / gals are using this?  I have been developing in 
2010 for years (about 5 to be precise) and have decided perhaps it's 
time to move up?

I have to laugh, VS 2013 wants "up to 10 gb" on my local hard drive(s).  
Holy smoke batman!

I am in the process of setting up SVN server on my Linux box, and trying 
to get Tortoise client and VisualSVN running on my laptop talking to 
that Linux VSN server here in my office.  I have a virtual machine that 
I have used exclusively for my dev work, but that is really set up for a 
client's development, and I want the same kind of thing here in my office.

BTW I just ordered (3) 4 TB drives to build a Raid 5 array to put this 
kind of stuff on.  As well as my photos and other such things.

-- 
John W. Colby


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 14:53:37 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:53:37 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Gmail Labs
In-Reply-To: <CAOY=wEK3GNoLS=apqj0avnScRihMuv-4J8J7-Q-=Bns_gaJ88w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1i7kcCAgKB4PESRTun2_E1W6wYOswF-4PLFF8HGL4N0Aw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOY=wEK3GNoLS=apqj0avnScRihMuv-4J8J7-Q-=Bns_gaJ88w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i9JamZFzquGU7XtfVZp7EH46bdXiwg5yNOKe-zB6P6SQ@mail.gmail.com>

No, Steve, I haven't. And you've reminded me of another feature of Outlook
that I miss in Gmail -- the audio notification that new mail has arrived.

At the bottom of the page listing the Gmail Labs there's an invitation to
create new suggestions. Perhaps you could add your suggestion there. I
haven't added mine yet, but plan to soon.

Arthur

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> I like the idea of seeing the list of messages while viewing one. I've been
> using Gmail for so long that I've gotten used to it...BUT, I still like the
> Outlook/Thunderbird list view with message view.
>
> One thing that I wish the labs would come up with is a way to change the
> default notification sound for Google Chat messages. It's so faint I often
> miss it. I'd like to see a way to change that sound...and its volume. You
> haven't seen anything like that, have you?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 16:18:31 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:18:31 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA8202E0B@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pKhLS6FV+xC=HhcA6MfFes=bhgpyB6eqV_MOmg_BspFmw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+d6Je5wNVY6Nfe3=ckxsB3dibps88OQ2JGh3RbYYn1=_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA8202E0B@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+fMB0+O_6c+9SMcqB_CYCZ2Mpv9iMNXKKhSiJx3ynP5aw@mail.gmail.com>

She's wanting a special marquee -- I don't think she can do that herself
with anything that's available. I think I will do some research and see
what I come up with.

Susan h.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
wrote:

> LightRoom does that right out of the box. When the photos are 'exported'
> you can optionally include textual watermark. You can define the font size
> and color and position of the text in the final output file. No additional
> software required. :-)
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:29 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Photography software
>
> I think she's wants her name on them -- kind of a brand.
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I see that there are also digital watermarks that don't show to people
> > viewing the image but won't allow editing.
> >
> > GK
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty
> > universal, so
> > >> I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just thought
> > someone
> > >> might know for sure.
> > >>
> > >> Susan H.
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some
> > >>> familiarity with photo editing software and I think that a regular
> > >>> photo type file like a jpg will work fine as she will likely be
> > >>> pasting the watermark file as a new layer on top of the photo she
> would be working on.
> > >>> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not
> > >>> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would choose
> JPG.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins
> > >>> <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures.
> > >>> > She's a
> > >>> very
> > >>> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I
> > >>> > understand
> > why
> > >>> she
> > >>> > wants a watermark.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what
> > >>> > graphic
> > >>> format
> > >>> > I should save the watermark file as?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Susan H.
> > >>> > _______________________________________________
> > >>> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > >>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Gary Kjos
> > >>> garykjos at gmail.com
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> dba-Tech mailing list
> > >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary Kjos
> > > garykjos at gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Feb 23 17:41:32 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:41:32 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Photography software
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+fMB0+O_6c+9SMcqB_CYCZ2Mpv9iMNXKKhSiJx3ynP5aw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cTRskmvPRy9SUFRrdq-AfojcangiEDNJRQfj6HxuXF7g@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJ2R_p+BQbKjb6+GAut87UJMq5bnCSbSA99QEq9Fqcq44-ujfQ@mail.gmail.com>	<CA++Sg+cV20av0uSBbR_PyGf60e6_H_pxd6G5QDeupn6dRfSkng@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJ2R_pKJtA-X=sAsULxVL1VpxR1mCewpYiLa9Dp0uTAKq9A=XQ@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJ2R_pKhLS6FV+xC=HhcA6MfFes=bhgpyB6eqV_MOmg_BspFmw@mail.gmail.com>	<CA++Sg+d6Je5wNVY6Nfe3=ckxsB3dibps88OQ2JGh3RbYYn1=_Q@mail.gmail.com>	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA8202E0B@PWGSMSLIVMBS04.mail.aig.net>
	<CA++Sg+fMB0+O_6c+9SMcqB_CYCZ2Mpv9iMNXKKhSiJx3ynP5aw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0a2501d04fc2$413cd5a0$c3b680e0$@winhaven.net>

Anything you can do in Paint you could do in Photoshop.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 4:19 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Photography software

She's wanting a special marquee -- I don't think she can do that herself
with anything that's available. I think I will do some research and see what
I come up with.

Susan h.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
wrote:

> LightRoom does that right out of the box. When the photos are 'exported'
> you can optionally include textual watermark. You can define the font 
> size and color and position of the text in the final output file. No 
> additional software required. :-)
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:29 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Photography software
>
> I think she's wants her name on them -- kind of a brand.
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I see that there are also digital watermarks that don't show to 
> > people viewing the image but won't allow editing.
> >
> > GK
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This would imply that the photo editor itself may be able to do it....
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Watermark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Susan Harkins 
> > > <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> I did ask her, but she didn't know. :) A jpg does seem pretty
> > universal, so
> > >> I'll try that. If it doesn't work, we'll try again. I just 
> > >> thought
> > someone
> > >> might know for sure.
> > >>
> > >> Susan H.
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I've not used a watermark on anything but I do have some 
> > >>> familiarity with photo editing software and I think that a 
> > >>> regular photo type file like a jpg will work fine as she will 
> > >>> likely be pasting the watermark file as a new layer on top of 
> > >>> the photo she
> would be working on.
> > >>> Otherwise you might want to ask her what format she prefers. Not 
> > >>> knowing what she would want if she didn't tell you I would 
> > >>> choose
> JPG.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Susan Harkins 
> > >>> <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > A friend has asked me to create a watermark for her pictures.
> > >>> > She's a
> > >>> very
> > >>> > good photographer and shares many on social media, so I 
> > >>> > understand
> > why
> > >>> she
> > >>> > wants a watermark.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > She's using Light Room and Photoshop. Does anyone know what 
> > >>> > graphic
> > >>> format
> > >>> > I should save the watermark file as?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Susan H.
> > >>> > _______________________________________________
> > >>> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > >>> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Gary Kjos
> > >>> garykjos at gmail.com
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> dba-Tech mailing list
> > >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> dba-Tech mailing list
> > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary Kjos
> > > garykjos at gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 24 03:55:36 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:55:36 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB0913E6657925E08092E95F5DCA160@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi John

I use VS2103 Professional as it comes with the MAPS subscription. As I understand it, the community edition is similar to this.

I use the Team Foundation Server on-line. It works right away with VS desktop:

http://www.visualstudio.com/products/what-is-visual-studio-online-vs

Git is available too.

Free for five users.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John W. Colby
Sendt: 23. februar 2015 20:12
Til: DBA Tech; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Emne: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition

How many of you guys / gals are using this?  I have been developing in
2010 for years (about 5 to be precise) and have decided perhaps it's time to move up?

I have to laugh, VS 2013 wants "up to 10 gb" on my local hard drive(s).  
Holy smoke batman!

I am in the process of setting up SVN server on my Linux box, and trying to get Tortoise client and VisualSVN running on my laptop talking to that Linux VSN server here in my office.  I have a virtual machine that I have used exclusively for my dev work, but that is really set up for a client's development, and I want the same kind of thing here in my office.

BTW I just ordered (3) 4 TB drives to build a Raid 5 array to put this kind of stuff on.  As well as my photos and other such things.

--
John W. Colby

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Feb 24 07:53:56 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:53:56 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Visual_Studio_community_edition?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB0913E6657925E08092E95F5DCA160@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB0913E6657925E08092E95F5DCA160@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1424786036.18079851@f48.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

VS Online Git's "cloud storage" is free for up to five users?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:55 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi John
>
>I use VS2103 Professional as it comes with the MAPS subscription. As I understand it, the community edition is similar to this.
>
>I use the Team Foundation Server on-line. It works right away with VS desktop:
>
>http://www.visualstudio.com/products/what-is-visual-studio-online-vs
>
>Git is available too.
>
>Free for five users.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John W. Colby
>Sendt: 23. februar 2015 20:12
>Til: DBA Tech;  dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
>Emne: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition
>
>How many of you guys / gals are using this?  I have been developing in
>2010 for years (about 5 to be precise) and have decided perhaps it's time to move up?
>
>I have to laugh, VS 2013 wants "up to 10 gb" on my local hard drive(s). 
>Holy smoke batman!
>
>I am in the process of setting up SVN server on my Linux box, and trying to get Tortoise client and VisualSVN running on my laptop talking to that Linux VSN server here in my office.  I have a virtual machine that I have used exclusively for my dev work, but that is really set up for a client's development, and I want the same kind of thing here in my office.
>
>BTW I just ordered (3) 4 TB drives to build a Raid 5 array to put this kind of stuff on.  As well as my photos and other such things.
>
>--
>John W. Colby
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 24 08:02:08 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:02:08 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB09135D5015C732A55D0BF0F1CA160@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

As I understand it:

    Team Foundation Server free for 5 users, even for closed access.
    GitHub is free for many users, but for public access only.

    VS2013 supports both TFS and Git (and VisualSVN with an add-in)

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 24. februar 2015 14:54
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition

 Hi Gustav --

VS Online Git's "cloud storage" is free for up to five users?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:55 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi John
>
>I use VS2103 Professional as it comes with the MAPS subscription. As I understand it, the community edition is similar to this.
>
>I use the Team Foundation Server on-line. It works right away with VS desktop:
>
>http://www.visualstudio.com/products/what-is-visual-studio-online-vs
>
>Git is available too.
>
>Free for five users.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John W. Colby
>Sendt: 23. februar 2015 20:12
>Til: DBA Tech;  dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
>Emne: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition
>
>How many of you guys / gals are using this?  I have been developing in
>2010 for years (about 5 to be precise) and have decided perhaps it's time to move up?
>
>I have to laugh, VS 2013 wants "up to 10 gb" on my local hard drive(s). 
>Holy smoke batman!
>
>I am in the process of setting up SVN server on my Linux box, and trying to get Tortoise client and VisualSVN running on my laptop talking to that Linux VSN server here in my office.  I have a virtual machine that I have used exclusively for my dev work, but that is really set up for a client's development, and I want the same kind of thing here in my office.
>
>BTW I just ordered (3) 4 TB drives to build a Raid 5 array to put this kind of stuff on.  As well as my photos and other such things.
>
>--
>John W. Colby 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Feb 24 09:46:58 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:46:58 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Visual_Studio_community_edition?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB09135D5015C732A55D0BF0F1CA160@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB09135D5015C732A55D0BF0F1CA160@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1424792818.490487247@f378.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, I know that GitHib is free for public use only, I have just thought that VS Online might have its own Git server(s) - free for five users working on private projects?

BTW, BitBucket (bitbucket.org) is free for unlimited private projects for GIt and Mercurial. I've been using it for more than two years now.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:02 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>As I understand it:
>
>????Team Foundation Server free for 5 users, even for closed access.
>????GitHub is free for many users, but for public access only.
>
>????VS2013 supports both TFS and Git (and VisualSVN with an add-in)
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 24. februar 2015 14:54
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>VS Online Git's "cloud storage" is free for up to five users?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:55 AM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>Hi John
>>
>>I use VS2103 Professional as it comes with the MAPS subscription. As I understand it, the community edition is similar to this.
>>
>>I use the Team Foundation Server on-line. It works right away with VS desktop:
>>
>> http://www.visualstudio.com/products/what-is-visual-studio-online-vs
>>
>>Git is available too.
>>
>>Free for five users.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>Fra:  dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John W. Colby
>>Sendt: 23. februar 2015 20:12
>>Til: DBA Tech;  dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
>>Emne: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition
>>
>>How many of you guys / gals are using this?  I have been developing in
>>2010 for years (about 5 to be precise) and have decided perhaps it's time to move up?
>>
>>I have to laugh, VS 2013 wants "up to 10 gb" on my local hard drive(s). 
>>Holy smoke batman!
>>
>>I am in the process of setting up SVN server on my Linux box, and trying to get Tortoise client and VisualSVN running on my laptop talking to that Linux VSN server here in my office.  I have a virtual machine that I have used exclusively for my dev work, but that is really set up for a client's development, and I want the same kind of thing here in my office.
>>
>>BTW I just ordered (3) 4 TB drives to build a Raid 5 array to put this kind of stuff on.  As well as my photos and other such things.
>>
>>--
>>John W. Colby 
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 24 09:51:09 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:51:09 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB0913609D67BC7703C0EB1687CA160@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

Oh, I don't know. Lazy me must admit that when I found out how TFS worked and it was very easy to use, I stopped further investigation.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 24. februar 2015 16:47
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio community edition

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, I know that GitHib is free for public use only, I have just thought that VS Online might have its own Git server(s) - free for five users working on private projects?

BTW, BitBucket (bitbucket.org) is free for unlimited private projects for GIt and Mercurial. I've been using it for more than two years now.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:02 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>As I understand it:
>
>????Team Foundation Server free for 5 users, even for closed access.
>????GitHub is free for many users, but for public access only.
>
>????VS2013 supports both TFS and Git (and VisualSVN with an add-in)
>
>/gustav 


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Feb 27 11:53:27 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 11:53:27 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Lenovo under the gun
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAANJ1znD9idpEo4ZEtCkwYB0BAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>

"... the fact that Lenovo installed the software on machines deep inside the
operating system with knowledge it would, under normal circumstances, allow
a third-party company to monitor and utilize metadata from user internet
sessions."

http://tinyurl.com/pxkkv3j

 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Feb 27 16:54:25 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:54:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] SPOC R.I.P.
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gCRzaD1i1huTi=epRU9Y0Pmpp2fJGRmLX31hA8aYE6aA@mail.gmail.com>

It's a sad day for us s-f lovers. He was not only SPOC. I saw him in a play
about the van Gogh brothers, in L.A.

-- 
Arthur

From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Feb 27 17:36:49 2015
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:36:49 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] SPOC R.I.P.
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gCRzaD1i1huTi=epRU9Y0Pmpp2fJGRmLX31hA8aYE6aA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gCRzaD1i1huTi=epRU9Y0Pmpp2fJGRmLX31hA8aYE6aA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_p+xTWrE79fqzCi67KV-GNmmu1NyYYwF6B3r9gCjN=ZMRg@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur on a different note, are you back on Facebook?  People have
been saying on the OT list that you are being offered as a possible
new friend.  Is that really you or an imposter?

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's a sad day for us s-f lovers. He was not only SPOC. I saw him in a play
> about the van Gogh brothers, in L.A.
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Feb 27 19:14:01 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:14:01 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] SPOC R.I.P.
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_p+xTWrE79fqzCi67KV-GNmmu1NyYYwF6B3r9gCjN=ZMRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gCRzaD1i1huTi=epRU9Y0Pmpp2fJGRmLX31hA8aYE6aA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+xTWrE79fqzCi67KV-GNmmu1NyYYwF6B3r9gCjN=ZMRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gZNdepbq5kGHFsd9AHa3U8NN5h-n=DGyQ=z2GVcdLJWA@mail.gmail.com>

It is I, who have decided to re-join the Facebook world. And I've extended
a few invites, you being one.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> Arthur on a different note, are you back on Facebook?  People have
> been saying on the OT list that you are being offered as a possible
> new friend.  Is that really you or an imposter?
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > It's a sad day for us s-f lovers. He was not only SPOC. I saw him in a
> play
> > about the van Gogh brothers, in L.A.
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 27 20:00:40 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:00:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] SPOC R.I.P.
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gCRzaD1i1huTi=epRU9Y0Pmpp2fJGRmLX31hA8aYE6aA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1785352842.11763033.1425088840546.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Leonard Nimoy, dead at 83...it hardly seems that long. 

He spoke to a very positive role of science and the future...he will be missed.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:54:25 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] SPOC R.I.P.

It's a sad day for us s-f lovers. He was not only SPOC. I saw him in a play
about the van Gogh brothers, in L.A.

-- 
Arthur
_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com