From djkr at msn.com Thu Jan 1 03:25:16 2015 From: djkr at msn.com (DJK Robinson) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 09:25:16 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Administrivia - Holiday Party! (follow-up) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ... and at least one (admittedly tiny, sent before I knew what the costs were) from the UK! And thanks again to John, and others, who keep us on the road. Happy New Year all ! John > From: jbartow at winhaven.net > To: administrivia at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:20:04 -0600 > Subject: [dba-Tech] Administrivia - Holiday Party! (follow-up) > > On behalf of the Database Advisors organization and administrative > volunteers I would like to thank those who have supported the Database > Advisors organization. > > > > Due to the recent funding drive, our operations will able to run for > approximately 3 more years. DBA received funding from 3 Canadian provinces, > Denmark, Germany, Ireland, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Russia, and 13 > states of the USA. > > > > May you all have a happy and successful 2015! > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu Jan 1 10:01:08 2015 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2015 11:01:08 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Administrivia - Holiday Party! (follow-up) In-Reply-To: <2534850BC6E94854A23FE17D14701849@HAL9007> References: <2534850BC6E94854A23FE17D14701849@HAL9007> Message-ID: <54A56F44.8010809@torchlake.com> Amen! TNF Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 On 12/31/2014 11:31 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > On behalf of the supporters I would like to thank John Bartow, without whose > efforts the list might have died. > > Happy New Year. > > Rocky > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:20 PM > To: administrivia at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Administrivia - Holiday Party! (follow-up) > Importance: High > > On behalf of the Database Advisors organization and administrative > volunteers I would like to thank those who have supported the Database > Advisors organization. > > > > Due to the recent funding drive, our operations will able to run for > approximately 3 more years. DBA received funding from 3 Canadian provinces, > Denmark, Germany, Ireland, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Russia, and 13 > states of the USA. > > > > May you all have a happy and successful 2015! > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Jan 3 08:33:10 2015 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 09:33:10 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software Message-ID: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> Hi Colleagues - and Happy New Year! I received an offer from Serif on their System Mechanic software. I have some other Serif products that are nice, but I know nothing about this one. The ad claims some marvelous things, such as "a 239-point diagnostic inspection," "automatically fix over 35,000 problems and errors," "boost start-up time plus program and internet connection speeds," and several more. They do make a decent website crafting program, and the reduced price on System Mechanic is attractive. But, as I said, I know nothing about this one and the claims are pretty bold. Does anybody on this list have any experience with this piece of software? Best, TNF -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Jan 3 08:58:00 2015 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 06:58:00 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software In-Reply-To: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> References: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <1B4376788D01461EAD317A9F859FDBB5@HAL9007> I was curious because I could use something a little more robust than Ccleaner. So I googled system mechanic reviews. PC Mag's Editor's Choice. Mixed reviews on Amazon. Lots of 5 star. Lots of 1 star. Cnet editor's rating 3 1/2 stars. So it looks like a legit product. Some other reviews had nice things to say as well. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:33 AM To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software Hi Colleagues - and Happy New Year! I received an offer from Serif on their System Mechanic software. I have some other Serif products that are nice, but I know nothing about this one. The ad claims some marvelous things, such as "a 239-point diagnostic inspection," "automatically fix over 35,000 problems and errors," "boost start-up time plus program and internet connection speeds," and several more. They do make a decent website crafting program, and the reduced price on System Mechanic is attractive. But, as I said, I know nothing about this one and the claims are pretty bold. Does anybody on this list have any experience with this piece of software? Best, TNF -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Jan 3 09:40:09 2015 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:40:09 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software In-Reply-To: <1B4376788D01461EAD317A9F859FDBB5@HAL9007> References: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> <1B4376788D01461EAD317A9F859FDBB5@HAL9007> Message-ID: <54A80D59.7010208@torchlake.com> Thanks, Rocky. TNF Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 On 1/3/2015 9:58 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > I was curious because I could use something a little more robust than > Ccleaner. So I googled system mechanic reviews. > > PC Mag's Editor's Choice. Mixed reviews on Amazon. Lots of 5 star. Lots of > 1 star. Cnet editor's rating 3 1/2 stars. > > So it looks like a legit product. > > Some other reviews had nice things to say as well. > > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:33 AM > To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software > > Hi Colleagues - and Happy New Year! > > I received an offer from Serif on their System Mechanic software. I have > some other Serif products that are nice, but I know nothing about this one. > The ad claims some marvelous things, such as "a 239-point diagnostic > inspection," "automatically fix over 35,000 problems and errors," "boost > start-up time plus program and internet connection speeds," and several > more. They do make a decent website crafting program, and the reduced price > on System Mechanic is attractive. But, as I said, I know nothing about this > one and the claims are pretty bold. Does anybody on this list have any > experience with this piece of software? > > Best, > TNF > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > 231-322-2787 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jbartow at winhaven.net Sat Jan 3 12:38:32 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 12:38:32 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software In-Reply-To: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> References: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <005001d02784$7a5c4ca0$6f14e5e0$@winhaven.net> Tina, I've tested it over the last few years (paid the money). It can be over aggressive and break things for the idea that it keeps your system clean. It had never 'solved' anything that I needed it. Just another utility that doesn't know when to say enough is enough. My advice: use Ccleaner, Auslogic's Defragger and MS Autoruns (all free). John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 8:33 AM To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software Hi Colleagues - and Happy New Year! I received an offer from Serif on their System Mechanic software. I have some other Serif products that are nice, but I know nothing about this one. The ad claims some marvelous things, such as "a 239-point diagnostic inspection," "automatically fix over 35,000 problems and errors," "boost start-up time plus program and internet connection speeds," and several more. They do make a decent website crafting program, and the reduced price on System Mechanic is attractive. But, as I said, I know nothing about this one and the claims are pretty bold. Does anybody on this list have any experience with this piece of software? Best, TNF -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Sat Jan 3 14:09:25 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 14:09:25 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software In-Reply-To: <005001d02784$7a5c4ca0$6f14e5e0$@winhaven.net> References: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> <005001d02784$7a5c4ca0$6f14e5e0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <006101d02791$2c37cce0$84a766a0$@winhaven.net> BTW Serif doesn't make it anymore Iolo does: http://www.iolo.com/products/system-mechanic/ So if someone is giving you Serif System Mechanic it's an old copy that probably shouldn't be run on any of the newer versions of Windows. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 12:39 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software Importance: High Tina, I've tested it over the last few years (paid the money). It can be over aggressive and break things for the idea that it keeps your system clean. It had never 'solved' anything that I needed it. Just another utility that doesn't know when to say enough is enough. My advice: use Ccleaner, Auslogic's Defragger and MS Autoruns (all free). John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 8:33 AM To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software Hi Colleagues - and Happy New Year! I received an offer from Serif on their System Mechanic software. I have some other Serif products that are nice, but I know nothing about this one. The ad claims some marvelous things, such as "a 239-point diagnostic inspection," "automatically fix over 35,000 problems and errors," "boost start-up time plus program and internet connection speeds," and several more. They do make a decent website crafting program, and the reduced price on System Mechanic is attractive. But, as I said, I know nothing about this one and the claims are pretty bold. Does anybody on this list have any experience with this piece of software? Best, TNF -- Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Jan 3 15:04:39 2015 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:04:39 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software In-Reply-To: <006101d02791$2c37cce0$84a766a0$@winhaven.net> References: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> <005001d02784$7a5c4ca0$6f14e5e0$@winhaven.net> <006101d02791$2c37cce0$84a766a0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <54A85967.9020000@torchlake.com> Oh, that clinches it. The offer is coming straight from Serif, which means that they are still marketing the product they no longer make, or they are sort of feeding customers to the new publisher. In either case, I want nothing to do with it. Thanks John, and thanks to everybody. This offer goes into the good ole round file!. TNF Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 On 1/3/2015 3:09 PM, John R Bartow wrote: > BTW Serif doesn't make it anymore Iolo does: > http://www.iolo.com/products/system-mechanic/ > So if someone is giving you Serif System Mechanic it's an old copy that > probably shouldn't be run on any of the newer versions of Windows. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 12:39 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software > Importance: High > > Tina, > I've tested it over the last few years (paid the money). It can be over > aggressive and break things for the idea that it keeps your system clean. It > had never 'solved' anything that I needed it. Just another utility that > doesn't know when to say enough is enough. My advice: use Ccleaner, > Auslogic's Defragger and MS Autoruns (all free). > John B > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 8:33 AM > To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software > > Hi Colleagues - and Happy New Year! > > I received an offer from Serif on their System Mechanic software. I have > some other Serif products that are nice, but I know nothing about this one. > The ad claims some marvelous things, such as "a 239-point diagnostic > inspection," "automatically fix over 35,000 problems and errors," "boost > start-up time plus program and internet connection speeds," and several > more. They do make a decent website crafting program, and the reduced price > on System Mechanic is attractive. But, as I said, I know nothing about this > one and the claims are pretty bold. Does anybody on this list have any > experience with this piece of software? > > Best, > TNF > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > 231-322-2787 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jbartow at winhaven.net Sat Jan 3 15:40:02 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:40:02 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software In-Reply-To: <54A85967.9020000@torchlake.com> References: <54A7FDA6.9040303@torchlake.com> <005001d02784$7a5c4ca0$6f14e5e0$@winhaven.net> <006101d02791$2c37cce0$84a766a0$@winhaven.net> <54A85967.9020000@torchlake.com> Message-ID: I looked for it on their web site and couldn't find anything. Note however, that companies do bundle software together with other companies for sales purposes. Nero is currently doing something like that too. That said, System Mechanic has never fixed anything for me and I've tested it on numerous machines (all legally). -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 3:05 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software Oh, that clinches it. The offer is coming straight from Serif, which means that they are still marketing the product they no longer make, or they are sort of feeding customers to the new publisher. In either case, I want nothing to do with it. Thanks John, and thanks to everybody. This offer goes into the good ole round file!. TNF Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 On 1/3/2015 3:09 PM, John R Bartow wrote: > BTW Serif doesn't make it anymore Iolo does: > http://www.iolo.com/products/system-mechanic/ > So if someone is giving you Serif System Mechanic it's an old copy > that probably shouldn't be run on any of the newer versions of Windows. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R > Bartow > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 12:39 PM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software > Importance: High > > Tina, > I've tested it over the last few years (paid the money). It can be > over aggressive and break things for the idea that it keeps your > system clean. It had never 'solved' anything that I needed it. Just > another utility that doesn't know when to say enough is enough. My > advice: use Ccleaner, Auslogic's Defragger and MS Autoruns (all free). > John B > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina > Norris Fields > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 8:33 AM > To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] Serif's System Mechanic Software > > Hi Colleagues - and Happy New Year! > > I received an offer from Serif on their System Mechanic software. I > have some other Serif products that are nice, but I know nothing about this one. > The ad claims some marvelous things, such as "a 239-point diagnostic > inspection," "automatically fix over 35,000 problems and errors," > "boost start-up time plus program and internet connection speeds," and > several more. They do make a decent website crafting program, and the > reduced price on System Mechanic is attractive. But, as I said, I > know nothing about this one and the claims are pretty bold. Does > anybody on this list have any experience with this piece of software? > > Best, > TNF > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > 231-322-2787 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 4 10:51:33 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:51:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Is Telegram a replacement for all communications packages? In-Reply-To: <1419516149617.63529@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <173101885.88272232.1420390293899.JavaMail.root@cds018> I have not yet installed the Telegram communications package but have heard of great things from those that have. It is supposed to be blazingly fast, fairly secure (?), partially OSS and proprietary and uses the latest and best communications protocols. What has been said about Telegram: Quoted description: "Telegram is a messaging app with a focus on speed and security, it?s superfast, simple and free. You can use Telegram on all your devices at the same time ? your messages sync seamlessly across any of your phones, tablets or computers. With Telegram, you can send messages, photos, videos and files of any type (doc, zip, mp3, etc) to people who are in your phone contacts and have Telegram. You can also create groups for up to 200 people or send broadcasts to up to 100 contacts. As a result, Telegram is like SMS and email combined ? and can take care of all your personal or business messaging needs..." https://telegram.org ..and its new protocol: https://core.telegram.org/img/mtproto_encryption1.png The product is available on all major operating systems: https://desktop.telegram.org Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 07:58:54 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:58:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Message-ID: Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its passengers. This makes no sense to me. -- Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 08:44:20 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 09:44:20 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Updating drivers apps Message-ID: A number of commercial programs offer to keep your drivers etc. up to date. I've just come across a terrific program called Patch My PC, which is freeware and does a wonderful job. You can download it from https://patchmypc.net/download. Almost forgot: it's also portable, so you can stick it on a thumb drive and use a single copy to update all your machines. -- Arthur From jbartow at winhaven.net Mon Jan 5 09:13:26 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 09:13:26 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Updating drivers apps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016101d028fa$282bf990$7883ecb0$@winhaven.net> Most free driver update programs are a scam and you will notice that you have all kinds of 'other software' installed. There is rarely a need for these. I've tried dozens of these and many of their recommendations are incorrect. Your equipment manufacturer will either have an updater installed on your computer or will have any updates available on their website. That said, I have seen good things about PatchMyPC. Just beware Arthur. "If it ain't broke don't fix it"! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Updating drivers apps A number of commercial programs offer to keep your drivers etc. up to date. I've just come across a terrific program called Patch My PC, which is freeware and does a wonderful job. You can download it from https://patchmypc.net/download. Almost forgot: it's also portable, so you can stick it on a thumb drive and use a single copy to update all your machines. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Mon Jan 5 17:54:11 2015 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 23:54:11 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Updating drivers apps In-Reply-To: <016101d028fa$282bf990$7883ecb0$@winhaven.net> References: <016101d028fa$282bf990$7883ecb0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: What John said. Lenovo has their own software that you can download for keeping drivers up to date (I remember you have a T410), and I know HP does too. Viper is pretty good at making sure everything else is up to date too. Jon Sent from my iPhone 7 (Beta) > On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:13, John R Bartow wrote: > > Most free driver update programs are a scam and you will notice that you > have all kinds of 'other software' installed. There is rarely a need for > these. I've tried dozens of these and many of their recommendations are > incorrect. > > Your equipment manufacturer will either have an updater installed on your > computer or will have any updates available on their website. > > That said, I have seen good things about PatchMyPC. Just beware Arthur. "If > it ain't broke don't fix it"! > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:44 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Updating drivers apps > > A number of commercial programs offer to keep your drivers etc. up to date. > I've just come across a terrific program called Patch My PC, which is > freeware and does a wonderful job. You can download it from > https://patchmypc.net/download. > > Almost forgot: it's also portable, so you can stick it on a thumb drive and > use a single copy to update all your machines. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 05:04:30 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 06:04:30 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Updating drivers apps In-Reply-To: References: <016101d028fa$282bf990$7883ecb0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: Actually, I have a Dell Inspiron, but I went to the Dell site and as you suggested, there is a driver-update program there. I downloaded and installed it and it found that I needed three driver updates, which I'm grabbing now. Thanks for the tip. Arthur On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Jon Tydda wrote: > What John said. Lenovo has their own software that you can download for > keeping drivers up to date (I remember you have a T410), and I know HP does > too. Viper is pretty good at making sure everything else is up to date too. From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 11:00:23 2015 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:00:23 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Arthur, the answer for this is simple. Airlines use technology that we might sometimes this is archaic. They have no sata 3, no DDR4 Ram, no USB3.0. No overclocked PC's like I love to build. In fact, their technology is 80's and 90's, thank god. They use stuff that has such a proven track record that it is safe to put people up in the sky with it. After saying all of that, I had that conversation with my son only two days ago about the Blackbox. The guys back in 70's - 90's never imagined that a plain would be so far off course that it could not be localised even after 30 days. I expect that the next version of a black box will have 1) 365 days of battery power and b) triangulation that even the pilot cannot interfere with and c) as you suggest, satalite, gps and whatever else technology can be used to guarantee they track the last known position for the plane. Mark On 5 January 2015 at 13:58, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are already on > the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, surely they are > less expensive than the price of an airliner + its passengers. This makes > no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jbartow at winhaven.net Tue Jan 6 13:05:24 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:05:24 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Updating drivers apps In-Reply-To: References: <016101d028fa$282bf990$7883ecb0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <009401d029e3$ba3a1cb0$2eae5610$@winhaven.net> Arthur, You never 'need' a driver unless something doesn't work or something has a security hole in it. Driver updates are very often very specific to someone's needs. The updates may break a perfectly functioning system. I have clients PCs out there that are 10 years old, have NEVER had a driver update and they continue to run like champs. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The tech industry pushes a lot of things - mostly because someone found out that normal people will take any advice they gets that's free, and they make huge amounts of money from it, but it just isn't normally needed for a home PC. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Registry cleaners are another snow job, they are just not normally needed. But a lot of people are so OCD these days that they can't accept otherwise. And believe me, if you know about the registry, you know that there is no program made that will make certain every single entry is needed and used. And you would also know that some entries are rarely or never used but need to be there in case of very specific occurrences. Therefore they shouldn't be removed! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ RAM Optimizers are another utility that aren't needed, especially on a home computer. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Don't fix it if it ain't broke! :-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 5:05 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Updating drivers apps Actually, I have a Dell Inspiron, but I went to the Dell site and as you suggested, there is a driver-update program there. I downloaded and installed it and it found that I needed three driver updates, which I'm grabbing now. Thanks for the tip. Arthur On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Jon Tydda wrote: > What John said. Lenovo has their own software that you can download > for keeping drivers up to date (I remember you have a T410), and I > know HP does too. Viper is pretty good at making sure everything else is up to date too. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 14:52:38 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:52:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Generation JavaScript Message-ID: Here's a link to a provocative piece on the state of JavaScript: http://manuel.bernhardt.io/2014/12/30/generation-javascript/ -- Arthur From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com Thu Jan 8 07:56:44 2015 From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 13:56:44 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what went wrong in the event of an accident. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its passengers. This makes no sense to me. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Jan 8 14:52:00 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 23:52:00 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Generation_JavaScript?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1420750320.531737536@f44.i.mail.ru> Hi Arthur -- Thank you for the link. I'd post here two comments: 1st ?("agressive"): ============== "Ag ibragimov ? 18 days ago Web developers should stop acting like bunch of sissies and be afraid of new things. One becomes a web developer by choice - no one forces anyone to be in that. Yes, web has become a messy battlefield and one has to adapt and survive and constantly learn new things. Whining and complaining only make things worse..." (this comment is from the article ("The State of JavaScript in 2015" http://www.breck-mckye.com/blog/2014/12/the-state-of-javascript-in-2015/ )?referred by the one, which link you posted) 2nd:(realistic, proven by commenter's JS real-life 15 year programming experience) ================================================================= "JAMES EDWARDS 1 January 2015 at 4:35 pm Call me old-fashioned if you like (and it would be fair comment), but ? I?ve been programming JS for 15 years, I still don?t know what NPM is, I?d never heard of Bower until I read this article. Each new project, for me, consists of an empty page and a text-editor. The standing assumption is no libraries or external dependencies of any kind, and that changes only as and when the project requires it. ... (read more online).... But I think the industry would be a lot less intimidating to new coders, if they didn?t feel compelled to navigate the minefield of libraries that now exist, before they can do anything. You can build useful functionality with nothing but a text editor and a browser." I like both :) But I'd follow the second one. BTW, I have just got purchased a Kindle Edition of? "If Hemingway Wrote JavaScript" by Angus Croll http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593275854 and I have started to read, and I like it a lot - it shows how rich and expressive JS is. Everybody here knows what are "Closure, Memoisation, Currying, Map-Filter-Reduce" (functional) programming concepts and how and what for they can applied in JS? I must admit I'm only starting to realize the power of these concepts... And while getting through JS steep learning curve it happens?"my mind tells me I will never understand Javascript, and my heart tells me I am not meant to." :) ?(quoted text is from?"If Hemingway Wrote JavaScript" book) Thank you. -- Shamil Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:52:38 -0500 from Arthur Fuller : >Here's a link to a provocative piece on the state of JavaScript: > >http://manuel.bernhardt.io/2014/12/30/generation-javascript/ > >-- >Arthur >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jan 8 22:34:59 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:34:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Generation JavaScript In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1225896339.92436461.1420778099624.JavaMail.root@cds018> An application is only as good as how the tools, in this case Javascript are used and no better than what the product was designed for. Javascript, is really just a browser presentation manager. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 12:52:38 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Generation JavaScript Here's a link to a provocative piece on the state of JavaScript: http://manuel.bernhardt.io/2014/12/30/generation-javascript/ -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 9 00:56:57 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 23:56:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators In-Reply-To: <1419968040.974134709@f256.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1079314367.92489998.1420786617129.JavaMail.root@cds018> May 25th 2015? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:34:00 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators Hi Gustav -- Thank you for your "more gentle wind to reach Russia next year" wishes! Yes, "Wind of Change" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUUGfs3s_4Y) (round two) would be very helpful here, and hopefully distant memories will be buried in the past truly forever this time... They (local media) say here that Scorpions are planning to celebrate their 50 anniversary in St.Petersburg, Russia on 25th of May 2015 ( http://www.baltinfo.ru/2014/12/18/Gruppa-Scorpions-otmetit-50-letie-v-Peterburge-468114 ) but I do not see that date in Scorpions' official tour schedule ( http://www.the-scorpions.com/english/tourdates.asp ).?We will see... Happy New Year! -- Shamil Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:41:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock : >Hi Shamil > >Thanks Shamil, also for your feedback and findings. > >May a more gentle wind (not quite sure how to express it) reach Russia the next year. > >/gustav > >________________________________________ >Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >Sendt: 30. december 2014 12:20 >Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators > >?Hi Gustav -- > >Yes, I suppose I realize your concerns. >I wish you got at the golden code writing level really soon next year! > >In general: I wish you and All here a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year. > >Thank you. > >-- Shamil > >Sat, 27 Dec 2014 16:46:23 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>Hi Shamil >> >>That sounds very clever indeed. When (if ever) I reach the level writing golden code, I may consider spending the $800. >> >>/gustav >> >>________________________________________ >>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>Sendt: 25. december 2014 19:16 >>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >> >>?Hi Gustav -- >> >>I have tried the 'Smart Assembly' (obfuscation) tool ( ) - it's just great. And it's actually not only obfuscation tool but it has other useful features as e.g. making a single assembly from the main exe and its dependent dlls. I have tried it and it worked flawlessly for me for my customer application having main executable and a dozen of dependent DLLs. >> >>-- Shamil >> >> >>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 21:35:48 +0300 from Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >: >>>Hi Gustav -- >>> >>>I believe/expect the 'Smart Assembly' obfuscation tool from Red-Gate company >>> >>> http://www.red-gate.com/products/dotnet-development/smartassembly/ >>> >>>should be one of the best .NET code obfuscation tools on the market. >>> >>>I haven't tried it yet. I will probably try it this night. It has 14 days free trial. >>> >>>You can watch their short demonstration video (3+ min) at the above URL - they are able to obfuscate not only classes/methods/properties/.... names but also actual control flow, string values - obfuscated that way .NET assemblies can't be reverse-engineered by existing tools as .Net Reflector etc. >>> >>>Thank you. >>> >>>-- Shamil >>> >>> >>>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:31:39 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>>Hi Shamil >>>> >>>>Yes, it takes a lot more to interpret the output and turn it into readable and understandable code. >>>> >>>>/gustav >>>> >>>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>>>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil >>>>Sendt: 21. december 2014 21:42 >>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >>>> >>>>?Hi Gustav -- >>>> >>>>Yes, de-obfuscators would be quite capable - there is no "bullet proof" defense from professional hackers/reverse-engineers. I'm looking for a tool to stop amateurs, even with a powerful de-obfuscators they will not be able IMO to reverse engineer properly obfuscated .NET assemblies. >>>> >>>>-- Shamil >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Fri Jan 9 01:06:38 2015 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 01:06:38 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Generation JavaScript In-Reply-To: <1420750320.531737536@f44.i.mail.ru> References: <1420750320.531737536@f44.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <54AF7DFE.4000400@earthlink.net> On 2015-01-08 2:52 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote: > Hi Arthur -- > > Thank you for the link. > > I'd post here two comments: > > 1st ("agressive"): > ============== > > "Ag ibragimov ? 18 days ago > > Web developers should stop acting like bunch of sissies and be afraid of new things. One becomes a web developer by choice - no one forces anyone to be in that. Yes, web has become a messy battlefield and one has to adapt and survive and constantly learn new things. Whining and complaining only make things worse..." (this comment is from the article ("The State of JavaScript in 2015" http://www.breck-mckye.com/blog/2014/12/the-state-of-javascript-in-2015/ ) referred by the one, which link you posted) > > > 2nd:(realistic, proven by commenter's JS real-life 15 year programming experience) > ================================================================= > > "JAMES EDWARDS 1 January 2015 at 4:35 pm > > Call me old-fashioned if you like (and it would be fair comment), but ? > I?ve been programming JS for 15 years, I still don?t know what NPM is, I?d never heard of Bower until I read this article. Each new project, for me, consists of an empty page and a text-editor. The standing assumption is no libraries or external dependencies of any kind, and that changes only as and when the project requires it. An excellent description of a sound approach. PB > > ... (read more online).... > But I think the industry would be a lot less intimidating to new coders, if they didn?t feel compelled to navigate the minefield of libraries that now exist, before they can do anything. You can build useful functionality with nothing but a text editor and a browser." > I like both :) But I'd follow the second one. > > BTW, I have just got purchased a Kindle Edition of > > "If Hemingway Wrote JavaScript" by Angus Croll > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593275854 > > and I have started to read, and I like it a lot - it shows how rich and expressive JS is. > > Everybody here knows what are "Closure, Memoisation, Currying, Map-Filter-Reduce" (functional) programming concepts and how and what for they can applied in JS? I must admit I'm only starting to realize the power of these concepts... > > And while getting through JS steep learning curve it happens "my mind tells me I will never understand Javascript, and my heart tells me I am not meant to." :) (quoted text is from "If Hemingway Wrote JavaScript" book) Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > > Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:52:38 -0500 from Arthur Fuller : >> Here's a link to a provocative piece on the state of JavaScript: >> >> http://manuel.bernhardt.io/2014/12/30/generation-javascript/ >> >> -- >> Arthur >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 02:49:03 2015 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 08:49:03 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. That > data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what went > wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are already on > the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, surely they are > less expensive than the price of an airliner + its passengers. This makes > no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 06:46:19 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 07:46:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] HP unveils dwarf PCs Message-ID: HP unveiled its new Pavillion PC at CES. What's remarkable is its size: 2.06 inches tall and 1.6 pounds in weight. It fits in the palm of your hand. It ships with Windows 8.1, 1 TB hard drive and up to 8GB RAM. Later for the old tower chassis. Pricing begins at $319.99 for the HP Pavilion Mini Desktop and $179.99 for the HP Stream Mini Desktop. Reality imitates William Gibson's novels :) -- Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 07:12:54 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 08:12:54 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is a sound approach, Mark. They really are two distinct functions and there is no need to throw away existing black boxes, when, as you say, all that is really needed is the addition of a GPS guaranteed to work for a year, and of course a housing unit that can withstand a crash. Of course, nothing can withstand a mid-air explosion, whether caused by an on-board device or a surface-to-air missile, but at least we'd know precisely where the explosion occurred. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Mark Breen wrote: > Hi Lambert, > > yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. > However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an > additional robust location identifier. > > You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. > With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and > install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We > can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess > how to mix both parts. > > Mark From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com Fri Jan 9 07:28:31 2015 From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 13:28:31 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark, Absolutely. Could not agree more. There's just no excuse not to have GPS tracking. It's completely ubiquitous these days. I'm sure that all of the victims had smartphones with it so why not the airplanes? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. > That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what > went wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are > already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, > surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its > passengers. This makes no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri Jan 9 07:30:57 2015 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 13:30:57 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder for, if not identifying and locating the aircraft? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:29 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Mark, Absolutely. Could not agree more. There's just no excuse not to have GPS tracking. It's completely ubiquitous these days. I'm sure that all of the victims had smartphones with it so why not the airplanes? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. > That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what > went wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are > already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, > surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its > passengers. This makes no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 08:20:30 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:20:30 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> References: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> Message-ID: Jon, Given that my understanding is limited, I think that a transponder only acts (responds) in as a consequence of receiving a request; in other words it's not active all the time, whereas a GPS is always active. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough < jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote: > Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder for, > if not identifying and locating the aircraft? > > > Jon From jbartow at winhaven.net Fri Jan 9 12:20:04 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 12:20:04 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: References: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> Message-ID: <033c01d02c38$e43e4020$acbac060$@winhaven.net> I was under the impression that the transponder (a beacon of position for traffic control purposes, was on unless turned off. I'm going to check this with a pilot friend. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 8:21 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Jon, Given that my understanding is limited, I think that a transponder only acts (responds) in as a consequence of receiving a request; in other words it's not active all the time, whereas a GPS is always active. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough < jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote: > Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder > for, if not identifying and locating the aircraft? > > > Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Fri Jan 9 12:20:04 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 12:20:04 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> References: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> Message-ID: <033d01d02c38$e4709ac0$ad51d040$@winhaven.net> What I was thinking. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder for, if not identifying and locating the aircraft? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:29 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Mark, Absolutely. Could not agree more. There's just no excuse not to have GPS tracking. It's completely ubiquitous these days. I'm sure that all of the victims had smartphones with it so why not the airplanes? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. > That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what > went wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are > already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, > surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its > passengers. This makes no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com Fri Jan 9 12:47:48 2015 From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 18:47:48 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: <033d01d02c38$e4709ac0$ad51d040$@winhaven.net> References: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> <033d01d02c38$e4709ac0$ad51d040$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: Transponders are only used in short range situations in the immediate vicinity of airports and other air-traffic control nodes. They rely on line-of-site communications, and so once an aircraft is over the horizon the transponders are not usable. Also they do indeed only respond to enquiries from the ground. They do not continuously transmit. See http://www.cfidarren.com/r-transponder.htm Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:20 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Importance: High What I was thinking. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder for, if not identifying and locating the aircraft? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:29 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Mark, Absolutely. Could not agree more. There's just no excuse not to have GPS tracking. It's completely ubiquitous these days. I'm sure that all of the victims had smartphones with it so why not the airplanes? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. > That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what > went wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are > already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, > surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its > passengers. This makes no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Fri Jan 9 15:23:34 2015 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:23:34 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: <033d01d02c38$e4709ac0$ad51d040$@winhaven.net> References: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> <033d01d02c38$e4709ac0$ad51d040$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <000f01d02c52$8648e910$92dabb30$@de> Detailed info is being transmitted from most airplanes. See here: (also explains how it is done under "About") http://www.flightradar24.com/ Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von John R Bartow Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Januar 2015 19:20 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Wichtigkeit: Hoch What I was thinking. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder for, if not identifying and locating the aircraft? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:29 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Mark, Absolutely. Could not agree more. There's just no excuse not to have GPS tracking. It's completely ubiquitous these days. I'm sure that all of the victims had smartphones with it so why not the airplanes? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. > That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what > went wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are > already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, > surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its > passengers. This makes no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Fri Jan 9 15:31:38 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:31:38 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: <033c01d02c38$e43e4020$acbac060$@winhaven.net> References: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> <033c01d02c38$e43e4020$acbac060$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <03d001d02c53$a74662e0$f5d328a0$@winhaven.net> Another thing I think of when they lose these planes - aren't there a few dozen people on board with cell phones? Unless they're over open water can't their cell phones trace where they are? From jbartow at winhaven.net Fri Jan 9 15:31:38 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:31:38 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: <000f01d02c52$8648e910$92dabb30$@de> References: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> <033d01d02c38$e4709ac0$ad51d040$@winhaven.net> <000f01d02c52$8648e910$92dabb30$@de> Message-ID: <03d101d02c53$a77cb520$f6761f60$@winhaven.net> Danke. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:24 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Detailed info is being transmitted from most airplanes. See here: (also explains how it is done under "About") http://www.flightradar24.com/ Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von John R Bartow Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Januar 2015 19:20 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Wichtigkeit: Hoch What I was thinking. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder for, if not identifying and locating the aircraft? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:29 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Mark, Absolutely. Could not agree more. There's just no excuse not to have GPS tracking. It's completely ubiquitous these days. I'm sure that all of the victims had smartphones with it so why not the airplanes? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. > That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what > went wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are > already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, > surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its > passengers. This makes no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Fri Jan 9 15:31:38 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:31:38 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: References: <5d79ee3cecae4a42a56e9c8126201d41@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> <033d01d02c38$e4709ac0$ad51d040$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <03d201d02c53$a7affa20$f70fee60$@winhaven.net> Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 12:48 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Transponders are only used in short range situations in the immediate vicinity of airports and other air-traffic control nodes. They rely on line-of-site communications, and so once an aircraft is over the horizon the transponders are not usable. Also they do indeed only respond to enquiries from the ground. They do not continuously transmit. See http://www.cfidarren.com/r-transponder.htm Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:20 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Importance: High What I was thinking. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder for, if not identifying and locating the aircraft? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:29 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Mark, Absolutely. Could not agree more. There's just no excuse not to have GPS tracking. It's completely ubiquitous these days. I'm sure that all of the victims had smartphones with it so why not the airplanes? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. > That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what > went wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are > already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, > surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its > passengers. This makes no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Fri Jan 9 15:47:36 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:47:36 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?built=2Eio_=3F?= Message-ID: <1420840056.220829144@f416.i.mail.ru> Hi All -- Does anybody here use built.io https://www.built.io/features ? Do you know/use any other cloud services as built.io? Thank you. --? ???????????? ?????? From mcp2004 at mail.ru Fri Jan 9 15:50:41 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:50:41 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?OT=3A_Re=5B2=5D=3A__=2ENET_obfuscators?= In-Reply-To: <1079314367.92489998.1420786617129.JavaMail.root@cds018> References: <1419968040.974134709@f256.i.mail.ru> <1079314367.92489998.1420786617129.JavaMail.root@cds018> Message-ID: <1420840241.803773925@f416.i.mail.ru> Hi Jim -- Yes, I have read in the local media that Scorpions are planning to be here with a concert on May 25th 2015. Thank you. -- Shamil Thu, 8 Jan 2015 23:56:57 -0700 (MST) from Jim Lawrence : >May 25th 2015? > >Jim > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > >Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:34:00 AM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators > >?Hi Gustav -- > >Thank you for your "more gentle wind to reach Russia next year" wishes! > >Yes, "Wind of Change" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUUGfs3s_4Y ) (round two) would be very helpful here, and hopefully distant memories will be buried in the past truly forever this time... >They (local media) say here that Scorpions are planning to celebrate their 50 anniversary in St.Petersburg, Russia on 25th of May 2015 ( http://www.baltinfo.ru/2014/12/18/Gruppa-Scorpions-otmetit-50-letie-v-Peterburge-468114 ) but I do not see that date in Scorpions' official tour schedule ( http://www.the-scorpions.com/english/tourdates.asp ).?We will see... > >Happy New Year! > >-- Shamil > > >Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:41:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>Hi Shamil >> >>Thanks Shamil, also for your feedback and findings. >> >>May a more gentle wind (not quite sure how to express it) reach Russia the next year. >> >>/gustav >> >>________________________________________ >>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>Sendt: 30. december 2014 12:20 >>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >> >>?Hi Gustav -- >> >>Yes, I suppose I realize your concerns. >>I wish you got at the golden code writing level really soon next year! >> >>In general: I wish you and All here a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year. >> >>Thank you. >> >>-- Shamil >> >>Sat, 27 Dec 2014 16:46:23 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>Hi Shamil >>> >>>That sounds very clever indeed. When (if ever) I reach the level writing golden code, I may consider spending the $800. >>> >>>/gustav >>> >>>________________________________________ >>>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>>Sendt: 25. december 2014 19:16 >>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >>> >>>?Hi Gustav -- >>> >>>I have tried the 'Smart Assembly' (obfuscation) tool ( ) - it's just great. And it's actually not only obfuscation tool but it has other useful features as e.g. making a single assembly from the main exe and its dependent dlls. I have tried it and it worked flawlessly for me for my customer application having main executable and a dozen of dependent DLLs. >>> >>>-- Shamil >>> >>> >>>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 21:35:48 +0300 from Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >: >>>>Hi Gustav -- >>>> >>>>I believe/expect the 'Smart Assembly' obfuscation tool from Red-Gate company >>>> >>>> http://www.red-gate.com/products/dotnet-development/smartassembly/ >>>> >>>>should be one of the best .NET code obfuscation tools on the market. >>>> >>>>I haven't tried it yet. I will probably try it this night. It has 14 days free trial. >>>> >>>>You can watch their short demonstration video (3+ min) at the above URL - they are able to obfuscate not only classes/methods/properties/.... names but also actual control flow, string values - obfuscated that way .NET assemblies can't be reverse-engineered by existing tools as .Net Reflector etc. >>>> >>>>Thank you. >>>> >>>>-- Shamil >>>> >>>> >>>>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:31:39 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>>>Hi Shamil >>>>> >>>>>Yes, it takes a lot more to interpret the output and turn it into readable and understandable code. >>>>> >>>>>/gustav >>>>> >>>>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>>>>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil >>>>>Sendt: 21. december 2014 21:42 >>>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >>>>> >>>>>?Hi Gustav -- >>>>> >>>>>Yes, de-obfuscators would be quite capable - there is no "bullet proof" defense from professional hackers/reverse-engineers. I'm looking for a tool to stop amateurs, even with a powerful de-obfuscators they will not be able IMO to reverse engineer properly obfuscated .NET assemblies. >>>>> >>>>>-- Shamil >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Fri Jan 9 16:12:49 2015 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:12:49 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Re[2]: .NET obfuscators In-Reply-To: <1420840241.803773925@f416.i.mail.ru> References: <1419968040.974134709@f256.i.mail.ru> <1079314367.92489998.1420786617129.JavaMail.root@cds018> <1420840241.803773925@f416.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <001301d02c59$678b2c70$36a18550$@de> I wrote them about your concern and now the date shows in Scorpions' official tour schedule (http://www.the-scorpions.com/english/tourdates.asp) Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Salakhetdinov Shamil Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Januar 2015 22:51 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: [dba-Tech] OT: Re[2]: .NET obfuscators Hi Jim -- Yes, I have read in the local media that Scorpions are planning to be here with a concert on May 25th 2015. Thank you. -- Shamil Thu, 8 Jan 2015 23:56:57 -0700 (MST) from Jim Lawrence : >May 25th 2015? > >Jim > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > >Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:34:00 AM >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators > > Hi Gustav -- > >Thank you for your "more gentle wind to reach Russia next year" wishes! > >Yes, "Wind of Change" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUUGfs3s_4Y ) (round two) would be very helpful here, and hopefully distant memories will be buried in the past truly forever this time... >They (local media) say here that Scorpions are planning to celebrate their 50 anniversary in St.Petersburg, Russia on 25th of May 2015 ( http://www.baltinfo.ru/2014/12/18/Gruppa-Scorpions-otmetit-50-letie-v-Peterburge-468114 ) but I do not see that date in Scorpions' official tour schedule ( http://www.the-scorpions.com/english/tourdates.asp ). We will see... > >Happy New Year! > >-- Shamil > > >Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:41:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>Hi Shamil >> >>Thanks Shamil, also for your feedback and findings. >> >>May a more gentle wind (not quite sure how to express it) reach Russia the next year. >> >>/gustav >> >>________________________________________ >>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>Sendt: 30. december 2014 12:20 >>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >> >> Hi Gustav -- >> >>Yes, I suppose I realize your concerns. >>I wish you got at the golden code writing level really soon next year! >> >>In general: I wish you and All here a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year. >> >>Thank you. >> >>-- Shamil >> >>Sat, 27 Dec 2014 16:46:23 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>Hi Shamil >>> >>>That sounds very clever indeed. When (if ever) I reach the level writing golden code, I may consider spending the $800. >>> >>>/gustav >>> >>>________________________________________ >>>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>>Sendt: 25. december 2014 19:16 >>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >>> >>> Hi Gustav -- >>> >>>I have tried the 'Smart Assembly' (obfuscation) tool ( ) - it's just great. And it's actually not only obfuscation tool but it has other useful features as e.g. making a single assembly from the main exe and its dependent dlls. I have tried it and it worked flawlessly for me for my customer application having main executable and a dozen of dependent DLLs. >>> >>>-- Shamil >>> >>> >>>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 21:35:48 +0300 from Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >: >>>>Hi Gustav -- >>>> >>>>I believe/expect the 'Smart Assembly' obfuscation tool from Red-Gate company >>>> >>>> http://www.red-gate.com/products/dotnet-development/smartassembly/ >>>> >>>>should be one of the best .NET code obfuscation tools on the market. >>>> >>>>I haven't tried it yet. I will probably try it this night. It has 14 days free trial. >>>> >>>>You can watch their short demonstration video (3+ min) at the above URL - they are able to obfuscate not only classes/methods/properties/.... names but also actual control flow, string values - obfuscated that way .NET assemblies can't be reverse-engineered by existing tools as .Net Reflector etc. >>>> >>>>Thank you. >>>> >>>>-- Shamil >>>> >>>> >>>>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:31:39 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>>>Hi Shamil >>>>> >>>>>Yes, it takes a lot more to interpret the output and turn it into readable and understandable code. >>>>> >>>>>/gustav >>>>> >>>>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>>>>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil >>>>>Sendt: 21. december 2014 21:42 >>>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >>>>> >>>>> Hi Gustav -- >>>>> >>>>>Yes, de-obfuscators would be quite capable - there is no "bullet proof" defense from professional hackers/reverse-engineers. I'm looking for a tool to stop amateurs, even with a powerful de-obfuscators they will not be able IMO to reverse engineer properly obfuscated .NET assemblies. >>>>> >>>>>-- Shamil >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jan 9 16:52:02 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:52:02 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Re[2]: .NET obfuscators In-Reply-To: <001301d02c59$678b2c70$36a18550$@de> References: <1419968040.974134709@f256.i.mail.ru> <1079314367.92489998.1420786617129.JavaMail.root@cds018> <1420840241.803773925@f416.i.mail.ru>, <001301d02c59$678b2c70$36a18550$@de> Message-ID: <1420843922022.95217@cactus.dk> Hi Helmut Wow! That I call service. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com p? vegne af Helmut Kotsch Sendt: 9. januar 2015 23:12 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Re[2]: .NET obfuscators I wrote them about your concern and now the date shows in Scorpions' official tour schedule (http://www.the-scorpions.com/english/tourdates.asp) Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Salakhetdinov Shamil Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Januar 2015 22:51 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: [dba-Tech] OT: Re[2]: .NET obfuscators Hi Jim -- Yes, I have read in the local media that Scorpions are planning to be here with a concert on May 25th 2015. Thank you. -- Shamil From mcp2004 at mail.ru Fri Jan 9 17:42:34 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 02:42:34 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?OT=3A_Re=5B2=5D=3A__=2ENET_obfuscators?= In-Reply-To: <001301d02c59$678b2c70$36a18550$@de> References: <1419968040.974134709@f256.i.mail.ru> <1420840241.803773925@f416.i.mail.ru> <001301d02c59$678b2c70$36a18550$@de> Message-ID: <1420846954.888664784@f366.i.mail.ru> Really? That's great - thank you, Helmut! I guess, I should book tickets for the dancingfloor :) AFAIS there are still 100+ left. https://spb.kassir.ru/kassir/event/view/37642 -- Shamil Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:12:49 +0100 from "Helmut Kotsch" : >I wrote them about your concern and now the date shows in Scorpions' official tour schedule ( http://www.the-scorpions.com/english/tourdates.asp ) > >Helmut > > >-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Salakhetdinov Shamil >Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Januar 2015 22:51 >An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Betreff: [dba-Tech] OT: Re[2]: .NET obfuscators > >?Hi Jim -- > >Yes, I have read in the local media that Scorpions are planning to be here with a concert on May 25th 2015. > >Thank you. > >-- Shamil > > >Thu, 8 Jan 2015 23:56:57 -0700 (MST) from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >: >>May 25th 2015? >> >>Jim >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > >>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:34:00 AM >>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >> >> Hi Gustav -- >> >>Thank you for your "more gentle wind to reach Russia next year" wishes! >> >>Yes, "Wind of Change" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUUGfs3s_4Y ) (round two) would be very helpful here, and hopefully distant memories will be buried in the past truly forever this time... >>They (local media) say here that Scorpions are planning to celebrate their 50 anniversary in St.Petersburg, Russia on 25th of May 2015 ( http://www.baltinfo.ru/2014/12/18/Gruppa-Scorpions-otmetit-50-letie-v-Peterburge-468114 ) but I do not see that date in Scorpions' official tour schedule ( http://www.the-scorpions.com/english/tourdates.asp ). We will see... >> >>Happy New Year! >> >>-- Shamil >> >> >>Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:41:27 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>Hi Shamil >>> >>>Thanks Shamil, also for your feedback and findings. >>> >>>May a more gentle wind (not quite sure how to express it) reach Russia the next year. >>> >>>/gustav >>> >>>________________________________________ >>>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>>Sendt: 30. december 2014 12:20 >>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >>> >>> Hi Gustav -- >>> >>>Yes, I suppose I realize your concerns. >>>I wish you got at the golden code writing level really soon next year! >>> >>>In general: I wish you and All here a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year. >>> >>>Thank you. >>> >>>-- Shamil >>> >>>Sat, 27 Dec 2014 16:46:23 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>>Hi Shamil >>>> >>>>That sounds very clever indeed. When (if ever) I reach the level writing golden code, I may consider spending the $800. >>>> >>>>/gustav >>>> >>>>________________________________________ >>>>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >>>>Sendt: 25. december 2014 19:16 >>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >>>> >>>> Hi Gustav -- >>>> >>>>I have tried the 'Smart Assembly' (obfuscation) tool ( ) - it's just great. And it's actually not only obfuscation tool but it has other useful features as e.g. making a single assembly from the main exe and its dependent dlls. I have tried it and it worked flawlessly for me for my customer application having main executable and a dozen of dependent DLLs. >>>> >>>>-- Shamil >>>> >>>> >>>>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 21:35:48 +0300 from Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >: >>>>>Hi Gustav -- >>>>> >>>>>I believe/expect the 'Smart Assembly' obfuscation tool from Red-Gate company >>>>> >>>>> http://www.red-gate.com/products/dotnet-development/smartassembly/ >>>>> >>>>>should be one of the best .NET code obfuscation tools on the market. >>>>> >>>>>I haven't tried it yet. I will probably try it this night. It has 14 days free trial. >>>>> >>>>>You can watch their short demonstration video (3+ min) at the above URL - they are able to obfuscate not only classes/methods/properties/.... names but also actual control flow, string values - obfuscated that way .NET assemblies can't be reverse-engineered by existing tools as .Net Reflector etc. >>>>> >>>>>Thank you. >>>>> >>>>>-- Shamil >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:31:39 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>>>>Hi Shamil >>>>>> >>>>>>Yes, it takes a lot more to interpret the output and turn it into readable and understandable code. >>>>>> >>>>>>/gustav >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>>>>>Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil >>>>>>Sendt: 21. december 2014 21:42 >>>>>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>>>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] .NET obfuscators >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Gustav -- >>>>>> >>>>>>Yes, de-obfuscators would be quite capable - there is no "bullet proof" defense from professional hackers/reverse-engineers. I'm looking for a tool to stop amateurs, even with a powerful de-obfuscators they will not be able IMO to reverse engineer properly obfuscated .NET assemblies. >>>>>> >>>>>>-- Shamil >>>_______________________________________________ >>>dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 9 23:36:26 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:36:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] HP unveils dwarf PCs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <54385208.93414487.1420868186045.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Arthur: As to that technology, NASA sent a specialized wrench to the Space Station and had it printed. The possibility of a tool box being able to print tools as needed is not far off. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/3Dratchet_wrench/#.VLC6Qcnw4Zw Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 4:46:19 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] HP unveils dwarf PCs HP unveiled its new Pavillion PC at CES. What's remarkable is its size: 2.06 inches tall and 1.6 pounds in weight. It fits in the palm of your hand. It ships with Windows 8.1, 1 TB hard drive and up to 8GB RAM. Later for the old tower chassis. Pricing begins at $319.99 for the HP Pavilion Mini Desktop and $179.99 for the HP Stream Mini Desktop. Reality imitates William Gibson's novels :) -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jan 16 06:07:05 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:07:05 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Message-ID: Hi all This app for helping blind people is so simple and clever that it nearly hurts: http://www.bemyeyes.org/ Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. /gustav From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Fri Jan 16 10:23:14 2015 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:23:14 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54B93AF2.9030901@earthlink.net> On 2015-01-16 6:07 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > This app for helping blind people is so simple and clever that it nearly hurts: > > http://www.bemyeyes.org/ > > Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. "...when will they ever learn..." PB > > /gustav > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mcp2004 at mail.ru Fri Jan 16 10:32:37 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:32:37 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Clever_app=3A_Be_My_Eyes?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1421425957.571950531@f332.i.mail.ru> Hi Gustav ?-- Yes, it's a great app. >?Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. Yes, whatever good app I find - it exists for Apple, and it's the best one, often poorer quality - for Android, almost never - for WinPhone :( I'm planning to switch to Apple iPhone 6 if my budget will allow. -- Shamil Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:07:05 +0000 from Gustav Brock : >Hi all > >This app for helping blind people is so simple and clever that it nearly hurts: > >???? http://www.bemyeyes.org/ > >Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. > >/gustav > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jan 16 10:33:28 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:33:28 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes In-Reply-To: <54B93AF2.9030901@earthlink.net> References: <54B93AF2.9030901@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hi Peter It's about using a proprietary Apple method or protocol for streaming video from the blind's phone to the helper's phone. Not that smart when you know that Windows Phone users are more clever (thus better helpers) than the masses. Didn't you know? /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Peter Brawley Sendt: 16. januar 2015 17:23 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes On 2015-01-16 6:07 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > This app for helping blind people is so simple and clever that it nearly hurts: > > http://www.bemyeyes.org/ > > Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. "...when will they ever learn..." PB > > /gustav From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jan 16 10:39:19 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:39:19 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Message-ID: Hi Shamil Strange. That hasn't happened to me. The blind will have to live without my support. I can, and I guess they can. I have two payment apps which I use rarely, and the Uber app for taxi, and a remote control app for RDP, KumoPrint, and a few more. And Exchange and Office, of course. Works great. I don't care for all the games and "social apps". /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil Sendt: 16. januar 2015 17:33 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Hi Gustav ?-- Yes, it's a great app. >?Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. Yes, whatever good app I find - it exists for Apple, and it's the best one, often poorer quality - for Android, almost never - for WinPhone :( I'm planning to switch to Apple iPhone 6 if my budget will allow. -- Shamil From mcp2004 at mail.ru Fri Jan 16 13:06:29 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:06:29 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Clever_app=3A_Be_My_Eyes?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1421435189.227273358@f49.i.mail.ru> Hi Gustav -- I didn't mean games and social apps: one time I needed a Nikon photocamera remote control - it didn't have a WinPhone app, another time I needed home security/infrastructure (remote) control app - there was one for Apple and Android etc. And MS Office should work well for Apple too? https://products.office.com/en-us/mobile/office ?. I do like WinPhone UI a lot, and I have accustomed to use it but ... :( -- Shamil Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:39:19 +0000 from Gustav Brock : >Hi Shamil > >Strange. That hasn't happened to me. >The blind will have to live without my support. I can, and I guess they can. > >I have two payment apps which I use rarely, and the Uber app for taxi, and a remote control app for RDP, KumoPrint, and a few more. And Exchange and Office, of course. Works great. >I don't care for all the games and "social apps". > >/gustav > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil >Sendt: 16. januar 2015 17:33 >Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes > >?Hi Gustav ?-- > >Yes, it's a great app. > >>?Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. >Yes, whatever good app I find - it exists for Apple, and it's the best one, often poorer quality - for Android, almost never - for WinPhone :( > >I'm planning to switch to Apple iPhone 6 if my budget will allow. > >-- Shamil > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 18 14:47:29 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 13:47:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux kernel development In-Reply-To: <1421435189.227273358@f49.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1588981658.100177176.1421614049668.JavaMail.root@cds018> I have often wondered what the level of development that goes on with various OSs. The information on iOS is very limited, even on Windows OS but Linux is open. What I know about the Windows kernel is there is around 20 million lines of code and Linux is closing in with around 15 million lines of code. Linux grows at a rate of around 3,500 lines of code a day. (A senior Linux kernel developer named, Greg Kroah-Hartman, says for every 5000 lines of code added 2000 are removed.) When will the size of Linux grow larger than the Windows OS as its growth is hardly linear, is anyone's guess? Considering that in 2008 Linux was around 10 million lines of code and today, seven years later, its at its present size. (Microsoft has even added 20K lines of code to the Linux core so their new products like the Hyper-V and Azure environment will operate within the Linux infrastructure.) How many developers are working on kernel development as apposed to product development in both Apple and Windows is not known but it has been estimated there are between 100 and 150 people on Windows (NT) core. I would assume that Apple has a similar staffing. Linux currently has an estimated 1300 developers from 200+ companies and individuals. The Windows supports around 12 processor architectures, counting 32 and 64 bit versions while Linux supports somewhere around 150+ processors. (Linux, recently dropped support for the 386SX processor but still intends to support all current processors but it is up to the processor designer to supply and contribute technical details and developers.) For a list of Linux details, a slide presentation and for a book on how the Linux kernel works; for all those brilliant men and women who wanted to know more or become involved in this massive project: 1. http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/16/linux-kernel-development-numbers 2. http://www.slideshare.net/ennael/kr2014-kerneldevelopment 3. http://www.kroah.com/lkn Even though a good understanding of the product would take years (a life-time?), I find it all very fascinating. In summary, I would hardly recommend a Linux OS over a Windows version as there are times when either system shows superiority, in one environment or another. In gaming Windows is still top but that is changing...but I do not play games anyway so to me that is not a plus for me. I am most familiar with the Ubuntu desktop, which I admit is a bit of a porker but performance wise it matches Windows so that is not an issue. Linux does handle the internet and large corporations very well (the best) as it scales out infinitely, is stable as a rock and extremely secure but it has a steep learning curve. Even though all high end graphic packages are the domain of Linux, on the desktop, especially with Adobe products, they are just not supported by Linux...this is definitely a bit of a disappointment as I extensively use this company's graphic packages. Aside: I have been working on building a portable Container/Virtual/USB drive for my Adobe packages so they can be moved from computer to computer, regardless of OS...my Adobe investment is many thousands and not something I wish to repeat every year. I do not think Adobe's Cloud based attempts are likely to solve these issues. It is interesting to note though, that the latest versions of Adobe products (Cloud based) are written and run on Debian Linux. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 18 16:23:12 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:23:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] A new FireFox (35) release that has a talk and view product built in In-Reply-To: <1420750320.531737536@f44.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1983215062.100219639.1421619792867.JavaMail.root@cds018> The new Firefox has a product similar to Skype built into their browser. It looks very interesting as it is free anywhere in the world. http://venturebeat.com/2015/01/13/firefox-35-arrives-with-room-based-conversations-mp4-playback-on-mac-and-android-download-manager-support Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 18 16:48:19 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:48:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: <000f01d02c52$8648e910$92dabb30$@de> Message-ID: <1064813513.100229983.1421621299422.JavaMail.root@cds018> Awesome product. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helmut Kotsch" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 1:23:34 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Detailed info is being transmitted from most airplanes. See here: (also explains how it is done under "About") http://www.flightradar24.com/ Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von John R Bartow Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Januar 2015 19:20 An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Wichtigkeit: Hoch What I was thinking. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the transponder for, if not identifying and locating the aircraft? Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:29 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Mark, Absolutely. Could not agree more. There's just no excuse not to have GPS tracking. It's completely ubiquitous these days. I'm sure that all of the victims had smartphones with it so why not the airplanes? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 3:49 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Hi Lambert, yes, I agree with you that the blackbox has a data logging requirement. However, I presume that we all now also recognise that planes need an additional robust location identifier. You are correct that there is no need to mix up the two, I was doing that. With this in mind, all that airlines need to do is design, build and install a second device, the 365 day GPS tracker to existing aircraft. We can leave the Black boxes as they are until next generation and then assess how to mix both parts. Mark On 8 January 2015 at 13:56, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > ??? The black boxes are not about tracking where the panes are. They > record data about what the plane was doing, and cockpit conversations. > That data and those conversations can lead to an understanding of what > went wrong in the event of an accident. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:59 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology > > Can someone explain why airlines keep relying on archaic black-box > technology when vastly superior GPS-based tracking solutions are > already on the market? No matter how much these new solutions cost, > surely they are less expensive than the price of an airliner + its > passengers. This makes no sense to me. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 18 16:49:03 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:49:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology In-Reply-To: <03d001d02c53$a74662e0$f5d328a0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <1655368283.100230137.1421621343510.JavaMail.root@cds018> That is an interesting question? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 1:31:38 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Downed planes and Black-box technology Another thing I think of when they lose these planes - aren't there a few dozen people on board with cell phones? Unless they're over open water can't their cell phones trace where they are? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 18 16:54:51 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:54:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] built.io ? In-Reply-To: <1420840056.220829144@f416.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1194872780.100233194.1421621691249.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Shamil: Seems like a product that fills a need. If the cost of the Cloud is included in the price it seems fairly reasonable. Have you had any experience or know someone that has with the BUILD.IO? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 1:47:36 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] built.io ? Hi All -- Does anybody here use built.io https://www.built.io/features ? Do you know/use any other cloud services as built.io? Thank you. --? ???????????? ?????? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Sun Jan 18 17:09:59 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 02:09:59 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?built=2Eio_=3F?= In-Reply-To: <1194872780.100233194.1421621691249.JavaMail.root@cds018> References: <1420840056.220829144@f416.i.mail.ru> <1194872780.100233194.1421621691249.JavaMail.root@cds018> Message-ID: <1421622599.860293388@f161.i.mail.ru> Hi Jim -- >?Have you had any experience or know someone that has with the BUILD.IO? That was my original question too. -- Shamil Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:54:51 -0700 (MST) from Jim Lawrence : >Hi Shamil: > >Seems like a product that fills a need. If the cost of the Cloud is included in the price it seems fairly reasonable. Have you had any experience or know someone that has with the BUILD.IO? > >Jim > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > >Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 1:47:36 PM >Subject: [dba-Tech] built.io ? > > >Hi All -- > >Does anybody here use built.io > >https://www.built.io/features > >? > >Do you know/use any other cloud services as built.io? > >Thank you. > >--? >???????????? ?????? >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 04:39:45 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 05:39:45 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery Message-ID: How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years old now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern smart-phone era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost never use them; it has some games, too, which I have never played. For me it's just a phone, and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging more frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? -- Arthur From jon.tydda at lonza.com Mon Jan 19 04:50:26 2015 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:50:26 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If it's an old Nokia, you should be able to get a week out of the battery if you only make a few calls on it. If has a colour screen, it'll use the battery faster, and if you use the phone for anything, it'll use it more, but my old 6310 used to last a week. Obviously batteries won't last forever, and I bet a new one isn't all that much either (the last one I bought was less than ?10/$16), so it might be worth getting a new one if you're noticing a degradation. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 10:40 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years old now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern smart-phone era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost never use them; it has some games, too, which I have never played. For me it's just a phone, and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging more frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jan 19 04:52:18 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:52:18 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery Message-ID: Hi Arthur Yes, that's typical for a battery about to wear out. Just use it until you find you have to charge too frequently - then replace it. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 19. januar 2015 11:40 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years old now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern smart-phone era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost never use them; it has some games, too, which I have never played. For me it's just a phone, and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging more frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? -- Arthur From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 06:10:26 2015 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 06:10:26 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My wife Marty and I both still use Motorola Razr 3 flip phones. State of the art circa 2002 or so. They work fine for what we need. Making calls. An occasional text on my part. Marty doesn't do texts on hers. We have replaced the batteries in each at least twice I think. The replacement batteries available seem to vary a LOT in price and in quality based on online reviews anyway. And we have times when each of our phones charges doesn't last through a workday. Then after a few cycles of that just when we are thinking it's time for a new battery or a new phone, they start working fine again and the charge lasts for at least several days or maybe a week as Jon said. I use Bluetooth on mine to utilize the hands free calling in my truck and that causes the battery to run down a bit faster as it's continually looking for a Bluetooth connection to make. Originally I turned the Bluetooth function off and on when I got into the truck but that got kind of old fast and now I just leave it on and charge the phone more often. It's not supposed to matter anymore with modern batteries but I am still superstitious about running the phone to completely dead battery before charging it once in a while so that the battery doesn't get a memory for being recharged when it's only half depleted. Doing that HAS seemed to get our batteries working again over the years. If you have been recharging when the indicator seems low, you may want to try letting it go until the phone actually turns off and then recharge it. Repeat that full discharge cycle a few times. Also I have a friend with an Iphone I think it is. He thought his battery was going bad and he needed a new phone. It turned out though that his CHARGER was bad. He had been using an off brand charger and it wasn't completely charging the phone. Going to a different charger solved his problem. Good luck! GK On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years old > now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern smart-phone > era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost never use them; it > has some games, too, which I have never played. For me it's just a phone, > and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. > > I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging more > frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. > Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From eptept at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 06:40:57 2015 From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 07:40:57 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a Motorola HD Razr Max, battery is incredible even using GPS and Bluetooth. Diane has a Moto X, battery sucks. Mine has a nice charging station that works essentially like a clock radio, giving time, temperature, calendar and more. I think it cost $10 and I have 2 of them, one downstairs and the other next to the bed. I can use mine full tilt and after a full day will still have 87% in the battery. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Gary Kjos wrote: > My wife Marty and I both still use Motorola Razr 3 flip phones. State > of the art circa 2002 or so. They work fine for what we need. Making > calls. An occasional text on my part. Marty doesn't do texts on hers. > We have replaced the batteries in each at least twice I think. The > replacement batteries available seem to vary a LOT in price and in > quality based on online reviews anyway. And we have times when each > of our phones charges doesn't last through a workday. Then after a > few cycles of that just when we are thinking it's time for a new > battery or a new phone, they start working fine again and the charge > lasts for at least several days or maybe a week as Jon said. I use > Bluetooth on mine to utilize the hands free calling in my truck and > that causes the battery to run down a bit faster as it's continually > looking for a Bluetooth connection to make. Originally I turned the > Bluetooth function off and on when I got into the truck but that got > kind of old fast and now I just leave it on and charge the phone more > often. It's not supposed to matter anymore with modern batteries but > I am still superstitious about running the phone to completely dead > battery before charging it once in a while so that the battery doesn't > get a memory for being recharged when it's only half depleted. Doing > that HAS seemed to get our batteries working again over the years. If > you have been recharging when the indicator seems low, you may want to > try letting it go until the phone actually turns off and then recharge > it. Repeat that full discharge cycle a few times. > > Also I have a friend with an Iphone I think it is. He thought his > battery was going bad and he needed a new phone. It turned out though > that his CHARGER was bad. He had been using an off brand charger and > it wasn't completely charging the phone. Going to a different charger > solved his problem. > > Good luck! > > GK > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Arthur Fuller > wrote: > > How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years old > > now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern smart-phone > > era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost never use them; it > > has some games, too, which I have never played. For me it's just a phone, > > and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. > > > > I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging more > > frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. > > Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? > > > > -- > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From marklbreen at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 16:18:47 2015 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:18:47 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Helllo Gary love the Razr, still miss mine. "Hello Moto" On a side note, I worked with a guy named Razr years ago. We had a customer which was Gillette UK (the people that make razor blades). The IT manager was named Mr Pat Sharpe. The calls went liked this Razr: Ring Ring Reception: Good Morning Gillette UK Razr: May I speak to Mr Sharp Reception: May I ask who is speaking Razr: It is Razr Reception: Ring Ring Mr Sharp: Hello Gilette IT Reception: Mr Sharp, it is Razr on the Phone for you I always loved it. On 19 January 2015 at 12:10, Gary Kjos wrote: > My wife Marty and I both still use Motorola Razr 3 flip phones. State > of the art circa 2002 or so. They work fine for what we need. Making > calls. An occasional text on my part. Marty doesn't do texts on hers. > We have replaced the batteries in each at least twice I think. The > replacement batteries available seem to vary a LOT in price and in > quality based on online reviews anyway. And we have times when each > of our phones charges doesn't last through a workday. Then after a > few cycles of that just when we are thinking it's time for a new > battery or a new phone, they start working fine again and the charge > lasts for at least several days or maybe a week as Jon said. I use > Bluetooth on mine to utilize the hands free calling in my truck and > that causes the battery to run down a bit faster as it's continually > looking for a Bluetooth connection to make. Originally I turned the > Bluetooth function off and on when I got into the truck but that got > kind of old fast and now I just leave it on and charge the phone more > often. It's not supposed to matter anymore with modern batteries but > I am still superstitious about running the phone to completely dead > battery before charging it once in a while so that the battery doesn't > get a memory for being recharged when it's only half depleted. Doing > that HAS seemed to get our batteries working again over the years. If > you have been recharging when the indicator seems low, you may want to > try letting it go until the phone actually turns off and then recharge > it. Repeat that full discharge cycle a few times. > > Also I have a friend with an Iphone I think it is. He thought his > battery was going bad and he needed a new phone. It turned out though > that his CHARGER was bad. He had been using an off brand charger and > it wasn't completely charging the phone. Going to a different charger > solved his problem. > > Good luck! > > GK > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Arthur Fuller > wrote: > > How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years old > > now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern smart-phone > > era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost never use them; it > > has some games, too, which I have never played. For me it's just a phone, > > and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. > > > > I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging more > > frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. > > Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? > > > > -- > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jbartow at winhaven.net Mon Jan 19 16:29:31 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:29:31 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <028001d03437$6534d030$2f9e7090$@winhaven.net> :-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 4:19 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery Helllo Gary love the Razr, still miss mine. "Hello Moto" On a side note, I worked with a guy named Razr years ago. We had a customer which was Gillette UK (the people that make razor blades). The IT manager was named Mr Pat Sharpe. The calls went liked this Razr: Ring Ring Reception: Good Morning Gillette UK Razr: May I speak to Mr Sharp Reception: May I ask who is speaking Razr: It is Razr Reception: Ring Ring Mr Sharp: Hello Gilette IT Reception: Mr Sharp, it is Razr on the Phone for you I always loved it. On 19 January 2015 at 12:10, Gary Kjos wrote: > My wife Marty and I both still use Motorola Razr 3 flip phones. State > of the art circa 2002 or so. They work fine for what we need. Making > calls. An occasional text on my part. Marty doesn't do texts on hers. > We have replaced the batteries in each at least twice I think. The > replacement batteries available seem to vary a LOT in price and in > quality based on online reviews anyway. And we have times when each > of our phones charges doesn't last through a workday. Then after a > few cycles of that just when we are thinking it's time for a new > battery or a new phone, they start working fine again and the charge > lasts for at least several days or maybe a week as Jon said. I use > Bluetooth on mine to utilize the hands free calling in my truck and > that causes the battery to run down a bit faster as it's continually > looking for a Bluetooth connection to make. Originally I turned the > Bluetooth function off and on when I got into the truck but that got > kind of old fast and now I just leave it on and charge the phone more > often. It's not supposed to matter anymore with modern batteries but > I am still superstitious about running the phone to completely dead > battery before charging it once in a while so that the battery doesn't > get a memory for being recharged when it's only half depleted. Doing > that HAS seemed to get our batteries working again over the years. If > you have been recharging when the indicator seems low, you may want to > try letting it go until the phone actually turns off and then recharge > it. Repeat that full discharge cycle a few times. > > Also I have a friend with an Iphone I think it is. He thought his > battery was going bad and he needed a new phone. It turned out though > that his CHARGER was bad. He had been using an off brand charger and > it wasn't completely charging the phone. Going to a different charger > solved his problem. > > Good luck! > > GK > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Arthur Fuller > > wrote: > > How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years > > old now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern > > smart-phone era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost > > never use them; it has some games, too, which I have never played. > > For me it's just a phone, and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. > > > > I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging > > more frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. > > Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? > > > > -- > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 17:51:12 2015 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:51:12 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How fun! At least 75% of people who see my phone say "I HAD ONE OF THOSE AND I LOVED IT". Still works. Does everything I need/ Cheap coverage plan. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Mark Breen wrote: > Helllo Gary > > love the Razr, still miss mine. "Hello Moto" > > On a side note, I worked with a guy named Razr years ago. We had a > customer which was Gillette UK (the people that make razor blades). The IT > manager was named Mr Pat Sharpe. > > The calls went liked this > > Razr: Ring Ring > Reception: Good Morning Gillette UK > Razr: May I speak to Mr Sharp > Reception: May I ask who is speaking > Razr: It is Razr > Reception: Ring Ring > Mr Sharp: Hello Gilette IT > Reception: Mr Sharp, it is Razr on the Phone for you > > I always loved it. > > > > > On 19 January 2015 at 12:10, Gary Kjos wrote: > >> My wife Marty and I both still use Motorola Razr 3 flip phones. State >> of the art circa 2002 or so. They work fine for what we need. Making >> calls. An occasional text on my part. Marty doesn't do texts on hers. >> We have replaced the batteries in each at least twice I think. The >> replacement batteries available seem to vary a LOT in price and in >> quality based on online reviews anyway. And we have times when each >> of our phones charges doesn't last through a workday. Then after a >> few cycles of that just when we are thinking it's time for a new >> battery or a new phone, they start working fine again and the charge >> lasts for at least several days or maybe a week as Jon said. I use >> Bluetooth on mine to utilize the hands free calling in my truck and >> that causes the battery to run down a bit faster as it's continually >> looking for a Bluetooth connection to make. Originally I turned the >> Bluetooth function off and on when I got into the truck but that got >> kind of old fast and now I just leave it on and charge the phone more >> often. It's not supposed to matter anymore with modern batteries but >> I am still superstitious about running the phone to completely dead >> battery before charging it once in a while so that the battery doesn't >> get a memory for being recharged when it's only half depleted. Doing >> that HAS seemed to get our batteries working again over the years. If >> you have been recharging when the indicator seems low, you may want to >> try letting it go until the phone actually turns off and then recharge >> it. Repeat that full discharge cycle a few times. >> >> Also I have a friend with an Iphone I think it is. He thought his >> battery was going bad and he needed a new phone. It turned out though >> that his CHARGER was bad. He had been using an off brand charger and >> it wasn't completely charging the phone. Going to a different charger >> solved his problem. >> >> Good luck! >> >> GK >> >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Arthur Fuller >> wrote: >> > How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years old >> > now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern smart-phone >> > era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost never use them; it >> > has some games, too, which I have never played. For me it's just a phone, >> > and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. >> > >> > I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging more >> > frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. >> > Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? >> > >> > -- >> > Arthur >> > _______________________________________________ >> > dba-Tech mailing list >> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary Kjos >> garykjos at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jan 20 01:30:42 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:30:42 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery Message-ID: Hi Mark And it should have been a phone meeting including Miss Blades, thus: Mr. Sharp: Razr, we miss Blades /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Mark Breen Sendt: 19. januar 2015 23:19 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery Helllo Gary love the Razr, still miss mine. "Hello Moto" On a side note, I worked with a guy named Razr years ago. We had a customer which was Gillette UK (the people that make razor blades). The IT manager was named Mr Pat Sharpe. The calls went liked this Razr: Ring Ring Reception: Good Morning Gillette UK Razr: May I speak to Mr Sharp Reception: May I ask who is speaking Razr: It is Razr Reception: Ring Ring Mr Sharp: Hello Gilette IT Reception: Mr Sharp, it is Razr on the Phone for you I always loved it. From marklbreen at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 02:40:39 2015 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:40:39 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: :) On 20 January 2015 at 07:30, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Mark > > And it should have been a phone meeting including Miss Blades, thus: > > Mr. Sharp: Razr, we miss Blades > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Mark Breen > Sendt: 19. januar 2015 23:19 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery > > Helllo Gary > > love the Razr, still miss mine. "Hello Moto" > > On a side note, I worked with a guy named Razr years ago. We had a > customer which was Gillette UK (the people that make razor blades). The IT > manager was named Mr Pat Sharpe. > > The calls went liked this > > Razr: Ring Ring > Reception: Good Morning Gillette UK > Razr: May I speak to Mr Sharp > Reception: May I ask who is speaking > Razr: It is Razr > Reception: Ring Ring > Mr Sharp: Hello Gilette IT > Reception: Mr Sharp, it is Razr on the Phone for you > > I always loved it. > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 20 14:15:42 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:15:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] New media packages that work across platforms In-Reply-To: <1420840056.220829144@f416.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1091836767.101958910.1421784942429.JavaMail.root@cds018> There are two new media applications that can virtually work on any OS. For sound editing and music management here is a great program called Qtractor. I have not used it myself but have heard it is excellent. It is not a full professional studio application but it doesn't cost $10K for an entrance level package either: http://qtractor.sourceforge.net/qtractor-index.html For graphic designing and hand drawing here is a great graphic application. The program is not a replacement for Adobe Photoshop, which is dedicated to photo retouching but a app developed like Painter for computer drawing and painting. It works on all touch screens but is best supported on Cintiq and Waccom tablets: https://krita.org There is a full list of Youtude online training videos, explaining all the features and how to use them and even a DVD, reasonably priced at $40. Credentials for the product can be summed up with one of the latest events: https://krita.org/item/goodbye-photoshop-and-hello-krita-at-university-paris-8 I will definitely be downloading and using Krita as it is truly brilliant. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 20 15:56:51 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:56:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1817452008.102043881.1421791011067.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Gustav: Excellently eloquent design...would it be difficult to build an app, for Windows, with similar features? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:07:05 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Hi all This app for helping blind people is so simple and clever that it nearly hurts: http://www.bemyeyes.org/ Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 20 17:08:39 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:08:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] built.io ? In-Reply-To: <1421622599.860293388@f161.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <116066413.102103179.1421795319417.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Shamil: OK, then I will wait to pass judgement or maybe just download it and put it through its paces. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 3:09:59 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] built.io ? Hi Jim -- >?Have you had any experience or know someone that has with the BUILD.IO? That was my original question too. -- Shamil Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:54:51 -0700 (MST) from Jim Lawrence : >Hi Shamil: > >Seems like a product that fills a need. If the cost of the Cloud is included in the price it seems fairly reasonable. Have you had any experience or know someone that has with the BUILD.IO? > >Jim > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru > >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > >Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 1:47:36 PM >Subject: [dba-Tech] built.io ? > > >Hi All -- > >Does anybody here use built.io > >https://www.built.io/features > >? > >Do you know/use any other cloud services as built.io? > >Thank you. > >--? >???????????? ?????? >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jan 20 18:58:39 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:58:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <618586126.102204569.1421801919632.JavaMail.root@cds018> You may have to buy a new battery. I found a local battery distributor, that was very reasonable and my phone is back in the pink. What type of phone do you have? If you have a Smartphone and one of the current models, you could upgrade to Android L (lollipop) as that OS version is supposed to be very efficient when using batteries...almost twice as longer according to some sales and tech figures. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 2:39:45 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Life expectancy of a cell phone battery How long can one expect a battery to live? My phone is several years old now, and I feel no compelling reason to move into the modern smart-phone era. My phone has a browser and a camera and I almost never use them; it has some games, too, which I have never played. For me it's just a phone, and a calendar/clock. Hell, I don't even play music on it. I digress. I've noticed lately that it seems to require charging more frequently, and it's certainly not because it's constantly in active use. Is this an indication that it's getting to be time for a new battery? -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jan 21 02:51:48 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:51:48 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes In-Reply-To: <1817452008.102043881.1421791011067.JavaMail.root@cds018> References: <1817452008.102043881.1421791011067.JavaMail.root@cds018> Message-ID: Hi Jim I don't think so, but I have never touched streaming video. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 20. januar 2015 22:57 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Hi Gustav: Excellently eloquent design...would it be difficult to build an app, for Windows, with similar features? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:07:05 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Hi all This app for helping blind people is so simple and clever that it nearly hurts: http://www.bemyeyes.org/ Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jan 21 07:38:11 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:38:11 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 Briefing Message-ID: Hi all Today is the hyped and long awaited Windows 10 Briefing webcast: http://news.microsoft.com/windows10story/?OCID=WIP_r_Jan_Body_Webcast_9 /gustav From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 08:45:53 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:45:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 Briefing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Gustav. I'll be there (well, here :) A. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Today is the hyped and long awaited Windows 10 Briefing webcast: > > http://news.microsoft.com/windows10story/?OCID=WIP_r_Jan_Body_Webcast_9 > > /gustav From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 09:06:19 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:06:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] A cool free file manager Message-ID: For several years I've used explorer2 as my replacement for the Windows file manager. But I just came across another one that I may switch to. It's got everything xplorer2 has and then some. If you're looking for a cool and totally free file manager, check this one out. http://freecommander.com/en/summary/ Once you've read through the feature list, you're one click away from its download. -- Arthur From mcp2004 at mail.ru Wed Jan 21 09:24:17 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:24:17 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?A_cool_free_file_manager?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1421853857.757526681@f216.i.mail.ru> Hi Arthur ?-- Thank you for the link. BTW, 64-bit version is "donation-ware" - USD15. I will probably go for it as it looks like a great software. -- Shamil Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:06:19 -0500 from Arthur Fuller : >For several years I've used explorer2 as my replacement for the Windows >file manager. But I just came across another one that I may switch to. It's >got everything xplorer2 has and then some. If you're looking for a cool and >totally free file manager, check this one out. > >http://freecommander.com/en/summary/ > >Once you've read through the feature list, you're one click away from its >download. > >-- >Arthur >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 09:25:40 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:25:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Word Question Message-ID: I have a numbered list, and want to add sub-numbers. That is... 1. Item 1 a) sub-item 1 b) sub-item 2 2. Item 2 I know I've done this, but not in a while, and can't recall how. Moving to the end of Item 1 and pressing Enter, then Tab doesn't work. Suggestions? -- Arthur From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 09:31:28 2015 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:31:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Word Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Use the multi-line option instead. You can format it to whatever style you need. Susan H. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I have a numbered list, and want to add sub-numbers. That is... > > 1. Item 1 > a) sub-item 1 > b) sub-item 2 > 2. Item 2 > > I know I've done this, but not in a while, and can't recall how. Moving to > the end of Item 1 and pressing Enter, then Tab doesn't work. Suggestions? > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 09:41:44 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:41:44 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Quick Word Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Susan. While waiting for an answer, I randomly experimented and stumbled upon the solution. A. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Use the multi-line option instead. You can format it to whatever style you > need. > > Susan H. From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 23 16:11:19 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 15:11:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1152413914.105283513.1422051079421.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Gustav: There is supposed to be a code sample of how to use streaming video. It is code from an Android build but the technique should be the same. https://github.com/gradha/Android-video-stream-rotation Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:51:48 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Hi Jim I don't think so, but I have never touched streaming video. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 20. januar 2015 22:57 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Hi Gustav: Excellently eloquent design...would it be difficult to build an app, for Windows, with similar features? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:07:05 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Clever app: Be My Eyes Hi all This app for helping blind people is so simple and clever that it nearly hurts: http://www.bemyeyes.org/ Unfortunately not for Windows Phone. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 23 21:43:43 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:43:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] A cool free file manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1737568698.105485790.1422071023302.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Arthur: It definitely is an impressive looking product. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:06:19 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] A cool free file manager For several years I've used explorer2 as my replacement for the Windows file manager. But I just came across another one that I may switch to. It's got everything xplorer2 has and then some. If you're looking for a cool and totally free file manager, check this one out. http://freecommander.com/en/summary/ Once you've read through the feature list, you're one click away from its download. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Sat Jan 24 00:54:49 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 09:54:49 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_Welcome_to_Dynamic_Drive=2C_the_=231_?= =?utf-8?q?place_on_the_net_to_obtain_free=2C_original_DHTML_=26_Javascrip?= =?utf-8?q?ts_to_enhance_your_web_site!?= Message-ID: <1422082489.87589609@f194.i.mail.ru> Hi All -- FYI:?http://www.dynamicdrive.com/ -- ???????????? ?????? From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 10:29:50 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 11:29:50 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Welcome to Dynamic Drive, the #1 place on the net to obtain free, original DHTML & Javascripts to enhance your web site! In-Reply-To: <1422082489.87589609@f194.i.mail.ru> References: <1422082489.87589609@f194.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: Thanks, Shamil. This site looks interesting and useful. Arthur On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote: > Hi All -- > > FYI: http://www.dynamicdrive.com/ > > -- > ???????????? ?????? > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jan 25 01:03:27 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:03:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Welcome to Dynamic Drive, the #1 place on the net to obtain free, original DHTML & Javascripts to enhance your web site! In-Reply-To: <1422082489.87589609@f194.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <79815878.106155636.1422169407220.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Shamil: Thanks for the link. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 10:54:49 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Welcome to Dynamic Drive, the #1 place on the net to obtain free, original DHTML & Javascripts to enhance your web site! Hi All -- FYI:?http://www.dynamicdrive.com/ -- ???????????? ?????? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Mon Jan 26 02:25:56 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:25:56 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?CoreOS_=3F?= Message-ID: <1422260756.693220456@f129.i.mail.ru> Hi All -- I'm planning to implement for my customers a scalable on demand set of RESTFul ?web services serving a few custom application functions as well being "front-ends" to a few custom databases. And I'm currently looking at CoreOS (https://coreos.com/). Do you have any experience with it?? My RESTFul web services would probably be running on NodeJS (or PHP or Python) and my custom databases would be stored on mySQL (MariaDB?) - not sure about that last position yet as backend datamodels are relatively simple and so there could be no need to use a relational databases. Although currently MS Access and MS SQL with sometimes advanced SQL queries, stored procedures and user defined functions is used on backend, so if migrating to a noSQL backend these queries, stored procedures and user defined functions should be probably implemented in code. I'd also probably need to implement a full text flexible search system using Sphinx ( http://sphinxsearch.com ) And there should also exist a fallback solution for all that architecture - a system configuration to run locally (very moderately scalable of course) in the case a cloud hosting as e.g.? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-coreos-system-components ?will go down and will become unavailable for a long period of time. The latter is very improbable but anyway - a fallback solution would be a must to convince the customers to scale their currently more than 50% desktop/LAN based system configuration. Thank you. -- ???????????? ?????? From mcp2004 at mail.ru Mon Jan 26 02:42:29 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:42:29 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?CoreOS_=3F?= In-Reply-To: <1422260756.693220456@f129.i.mail.ru> References: <1422260756.693220456@f129.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1422261749.888610822@f390.i.mail.ru> Hi All -- I suppose I should have added Quay.io ?to my list: of (Docker) system configuration/deployment tools used with COreOS: Repeatable and Testable Deployments using Quay.io http://docs.quay.io/solution/repeatable-deployments.html Thank you. -- Shamil Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:25:56 +0300 from Salakhetdinov Shamil : >Hi All -- > >I'm planning to implement for my customers a scalable on demand set of RESTFul ?web services serving a few custom application functions as well being "front-ends" to a few custom databases. And I'm currently looking at CoreOS ( https://coreos.com/ ). Do you have any experience with it?? > >My RESTFul web services would probably be running on NodeJS (or PHP or Python) and my custom databases would be stored on mySQL (MariaDB?) - not sure about that last position yet as backend datamodels are relatively simple and so there could be no need to use a relational databases. Although currently MS Access and MS SQL with sometimes advanced SQL queries, stored procedures and user defined functions is used on backend, so if migrating to a noSQL backend these queries, stored procedures and user defined functions should be probably implemented in code. > >I'd also probably need to implement a full text flexible search system using Sphinx ( http://sphinxsearch.com ) > >And there should also exist a fallback solution for all that architecture - a system configuration to run locally (very moderately scalable of course) in the case a cloud hosting as e.g.? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-coreos-system-components ?will go down and will become unavailable for a long period of time. The latter is very improbable but anyway - a fallback solution would be a must to convince the customers to scale their currently more than 50% desktop/LAN based system configuration. > >Thank you. > >-- >???????????? ?????? >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Mon Jan 26 23:33:17 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:33:17 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Message-ID: <00fc01d039f2$c1430c50$43c924f0$@winhaven.net> Hi List, Does anyone have firsthand, recent experience with Bit Defender Security? If so I'd appreciate a run down. TIA, John B From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jan 27 01:09:14 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 07:09:14 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Message-ID: Hi John I do. We installed the free version on our XP Mode VMs when MSE support stopped. It worked quite well because it was as silent as MSE and didn't bother the user with big prompts for upgrading to the paid version. It reported a false positive from time to time but that was it. Recently, however, I noticed that CPU usage was quite high on these machines resulting in a slowdown of applications, mostly old Access versions. Also, Acrobat Reader was a dog. As these VMs are not used for browsing the Internet neither reading e-mail, thus the risk for catching malware is extremely small, we uninstalled "everything" not mandatory, and Acrobot Reader was replaced with Nitro Reader. Now they run with reasonable speed. As a side note, the XP Mode and the old Hyper-V shows its age; I use Windows 8.1 and its newer Hyper-V, and it runs much better. Of course, you need a separate Windows XP Pro license but we have dozens of those. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 27. januar 2015 06:33 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Prioritet: H?j Hi List, Does anyone have firsthand, recent experience with Bit Defender Security? If so I'd appreciate a run down. TIA, John B From jbartow at winhaven.net Tue Jan 27 01:39:09 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 01:39:09 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010a01d03a04$56d71200$04853600$@winhaven.net> Hi Gustav, Thank you. I am testing security products and Bit Defender tests well with the labs. That doesn't always hold up in field tests and, of course, doesn't consider things like UI usability. I haven't run a VM on Windows 8.1 yet. Sounds like something to look forward to as XP Mode seems to be getting more troublesome lately. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:09 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Hi John I do. We installed the free version on our XP Mode VMs when MSE support stopped. It worked quite well because it was as silent as MSE and didn't bother the user with big prompts for upgrading to the paid version. It reported a false positive from time to time but that was it. Recently, however, I noticed that CPU usage was quite high on these machines resulting in a slowdown of applications, mostly old Access versions. Also, Acrobat Reader was a dog. As these VMs are not used for browsing the Internet neither reading e-mail, thus the risk for catching malware is extremely small, we uninstalled "everything" not mandatory, and Acrobot Reader was replaced with Nitro Reader. Now they run with reasonable speed. As a side note, the XP Mode and the old Hyper-V shows its age; I use Windows 8.1 and its newer Hyper-V, and it runs much better. Of course, you need a separate Windows XP Pro license but we have dozens of those. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 27. januar 2015 06:33 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Prioritet: H?j Hi List, Does anyone have firsthand, recent experience with Bit Defender Security? If so I'd appreciate a run down. TIA, John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jan 27 02:07:22 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:07:22 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Message-ID: Hi John I can add that I noticed that the vhd disks had grown beyond reasonable size. You can then close the VM, click the "Prepair for shrinking" button in the XP Mode manager, go for coffee, and then click the Compact button. That improves launch a little on a slower machine. As for VMs on Win8 (and Win2012 for that matter) and general usage, remember to access these via the normal RDP client. The monitor access via the Hyper-V Manager is for administration only and, for example, lacks decent copy-paste options between the VM and the mother machine. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 27. januar 2015 08:39 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Prioritet: H?j Hi Gustav, Thank you. I am testing security products and Bit Defender tests well with the labs. That doesn't always hold up in field tests and, of course, doesn't consider things like UI usability. I haven't run a VM on Windows 8.1 yet. Sounds like something to look forward to as XP Mode seems to be getting more troublesome lately. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:09 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Hi John I do. We installed the free version on our XP Mode VMs when MSE support stopped. It worked quite well because it was as silent as MSE and didn't bother the user with big prompts for upgrading to the paid version. It reported a false positive from time to time but that was it. Recently, however, I noticed that CPU usage was quite high on these machines resulting in a slowdown of applications, mostly old Access versions. Also, Acrobat Reader was a dog. As these VMs are not used for browsing the Internet neither reading e-mail, thus the risk for catching malware is extremely small, we uninstalled "everything" not mandatory, and Acrobot Reader was replaced with Nitro Reader. Now they run with reasonable speed. As a side note, the XP Mode and the old Hyper-V shows its age; I use Windows 8.1 and its newer Hyper-V, and it runs much better. Of course, you need a separate Windows XP Pro license but we have dozens of those. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 27. januar 2015 06:33 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Prioritet: H?j Hi List, Does anyone have firsthand, recent experience with Bit Defender Security? If so I'd appreciate a run down. TIA, John B From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 03:50:33 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 04:50:33 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gustav, You've made me pause and think again about the way I typically work. I have a pretty modest setup, just two computers, one an old AMD-64 running Windows 7 on 4GB of RAM, and the other a Dell Inspiron laptop with Win 8.1 on 8 GB of RAM. Both have Oracle VirtualBox installed, but I use them only occasionally. But you've caused me to ponder whether I should do all my work in VMs, to protect the base OS from any possible contamination. VMs are a tad slower, but inside a Word processor or email app, who notices? The human is by far the slowest component in these situations Hmmmm.... A. ? From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Tue Jan 27 11:36:28 2015 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:36:28 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender In-Reply-To: <00fc01d039f2$c1430c50$43c924f0$@winhaven.net> References: <00fc01d039f2$c1430c50$43c924f0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <54C7CC9C.5070701@earthlink.net> On 2015-01-26 11:33 PM, John R Bartow wrote: I've been running the free version on a Win7 machine for a year or two---no problems, no infections, entirely unobtrusive. PB ----- > > > > If so I'd appreciate a run down. > > TIA, > > John B > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mcp2004 at mail.ru Tue Jan 27 12:20:43 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:20:43 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Create_a_simple_REST_web_service_with_Python?= Message-ID: <1422382843.570925916@f403.i.mail.ru> Hi All -- I have got the following sample: "Create a simple REST web service with Python" http://www.dreamsyssoft.com/blog/blog.php?/archives/6-Create-a-simple-REST-web-service-with-Python.html running on a hosted Ubuntu VM located somewhere on the cloud. It works on http://localhost:8080 Question: How should I edit the subject Python script to make it running for another IP port / other IP ports? (I must note I haven't read any docs - hope you just have a ready to use reply out of your head.) Thank you. -- ???????????? ?????? From jbartow at winhaven.net Tue Jan 27 22:29:23 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:29:23 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender In-Reply-To: <54C7CC9C.5070701@earthlink.net> References: <00fc01d039f2$c1430c50$43c924f0$@winhaven.net> <54C7CC9C.5070701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00c701d03ab2$fe7fc340$fb7f49c0$@winhaven.net> Hi Peter, Thank you for relating your experience. I had heard some bad things about it but they were all based on many years ago. Your experience seems to replicate those of others using the newest versions. Albeit I will not be using the free version, one would expect it to run at least as well. John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:36 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BitDefender On 2015-01-26 11:33 PM, John R Bartow wrote: I've been running the free version on a Win7 machine for a year or two---no problems, no infections, entirely unobtrusive. PB ----- > > > > If so I'd appreciate a run down. > > TIA, > > John B > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Tue Jan 27 22:29:23 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:29:23 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c801d03ab2$feb419b0$fc1c4d10$@winhaven.net> Hi Gustav, Thanks for the tip, I'll give that a try. John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Hi John I can add that I noticed that the vhd disks had grown beyond reasonable size. You can then close the VM, click the "Prepair for shrinking" button in the XP Mode manager, go for coffee, and then click the Compact button. That improves launch a little on a slower machine. As for VMs on Win8 (and Win2012 for that matter) and general usage, remember to access these via the normal RDP client. The monitor access via the Hyper-V Manager is for administration only and, for example, lacks decent copy-paste options between the VM and the mother machine. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 27. januar 2015 08:39 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Prioritet: H?j Hi Gustav, Thank you. I am testing security products and Bit Defender tests well with the labs. That doesn't always hold up in field tests and, of course, doesn't consider things like UI usability. I haven't run a VM on Windows 8.1 yet. Sounds like something to look forward to as XP Mode seems to be getting more troublesome lately. Regards, John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:09 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Hi John I do. We installed the free version on our XP Mode VMs when MSE support stopped. It worked quite well because it was as silent as MSE and didn't bother the user with big prompts for upgrading to the paid version. It reported a false positive from time to time but that was it. Recently, however, I noticed that CPU usage was quite high on these machines resulting in a slowdown of applications, mostly old Access versions. Also, Acrobat Reader was a dog. As these VMs are not used for browsing the Internet neither reading e-mail, thus the risk for catching malware is extremely small, we uninstalled "everything" not mandatory, and Acrobot Reader was replaced with Nitro Reader. Now they run with reasonable speed. As a side note, the XP Mode and the old Hyper-V shows its age; I use Windows 8.1 and its newer Hyper-V, and it runs much better. Of course, you need a separate Windows XP Pro license but we have dozens of those. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 27. januar 2015 06:33 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Prioritet: H?j Hi List, Does anyone have firsthand, recent experience with Bit Defender Security? If so I'd appreciate a run down. TIA, John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 19:09:52 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:09:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities Message-ID: Well, since we're all volunteers to some org or other, I am compelled to relate a funny story. I do volunteer work at a place called St. John's Mission, which is a modest church and shared by Greek Orthodox and Coptic Christians. Way back when, I majored in Philosophy with a minor in Religious Studies, and consequenly know a little about a lot of religions. In St. John's Mission I have found some excellent company among the Fathers of both sects, and frequently enjoy sharing meals with them, once the volunteer part of it is done. A week ago I shared a meal with two Chinese people, one white Canadian, one Metis, and Father Roberto. I was chatting with the Chinese people in Mandarin. Father Roberto was amazed. So also, I think, were the Chinese couple: it's not to be expected that a guailo (uncivilized person) can speak Cantonese and/or Mandarin. But anyway, that's not the point of this story. Father Roberto, a genuinely beautiful man, asked me to teach him and the other Fathers some basic Cantonese and Mandarin (well, actually, his request was "Can you teach us some Chinese?", at which point I had to point out that there are about 250 dialects, but for the most part in Toronto we can reduce it to three: Cantonese, Mandarin and Hakka. So anyway, here I am, a white boy from Winnipeg, teaching Greek Orthodox and Egyptian Copts the basics of Mandarin and Cantonese. Only in Canada, you might say. And I had this vision of going into a graceful retirement. LOL. As Michael Corleone said, "I keep trying to get out, but they keep dragging me back in." I guess that there's just no chance of retiring. Gonna work until I can't work any more, and that's that. And to make matters worse, now I've got teenage puppies asking me about HTML5. I need a new pharmaceutical called DamnItol. A. -- Arthur From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Jan 28 19:23:51 2015 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:23:51 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9AC99280848A4C009D75929C0519BC86@HAL9007> " And I had this vision of going into a graceful retirement." Am there, doing that. I failed to retire. But the work is fun without the pressure of HAVING to do it. So...it's all good. :) R -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:10 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities Well, since we're all volunteers to some org or other, I am compelled to relate a funny story. I do volunteer work at a place called St. John's Mission, which is a modest church and shared by Greek Orthodox and Coptic Christians. Way back when, I majored in Philosophy with a minor in Religious Studies, and consequenly know a little about a lot of religions. In St. John's Mission I have found some excellent company among the Fathers of both sects, and frequently enjoy sharing meals with them, once the volunteer part of it is done. A week ago I shared a meal with two Chinese people, one white Canadian, one Metis, and Father Roberto. I was chatting with the Chinese people in Mandarin. Father Roberto was amazed. So also, I think, were the Chinese couple: it's not to be expected that a guailo (uncivilized person) can speak Cantonese and/or Mandarin. But anyway, that's not the point of this story. Father Roberto, a genuinely beautiful man, asked me to teach him and the other Fathers some basic Cantonese and Mandarin (well, actually, his request was "Can you teach us some Chinese?", at which point I had to point out that there are about 250 dialects, but for the most part in Toronto we can reduce it to three: Cantonese, Mandarin and Hakka. So anyway, here I am, a white boy from Winnipeg, teaching Greek Orthodox and Egyptian Copts the basics of Mandarin and Cantonese. Only in Canada, you might say. And I had this vision of going into a graceful retirement. LOL. As Michael Corleone said, "I keep trying to get out, but they keep dragging me back in." I guess that there's just no chance of retiring. Gonna work until I can't work any more, and that's that. And to make matters worse, now I've got teenage puppies asking me about HTML5. I need a new pharmaceutical called DamnItol. A. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jan 29 01:25:39 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 07:25:39 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities Message-ID: Hi Arthur Another multitalent, next to Susan. As you see, efforts pays off with a better life. Carry on. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 29. januar 2015 02:10 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities Well, since we're all volunteers to some org or other, I am compelled to relate a funny story. I do volunteer work at a place called St. John's Mission, which is a modest church and shared by Greek Orthodox and Coptic Christians. Way back when, I majored in Philosophy with a minor in Religious Studies, and consequenly know a little about a lot of religions. In St. John's Mission I have found some excellent company among the Fathers of both sects, and frequently enjoy sharing meals with them, once the volunteer part of it is done. A week ago I shared a meal with two Chinese people, one white Canadian, one Metis, and Father Roberto. I was chatting with the Chinese people in Mandarin. Father Roberto was amazed. So also, I think, were the Chinese couple: it's not to be expected that a guailo (uncivilized person) can speak Cantonese and/or Mandarin. But anyway, that's not the point of this story. Father Roberto, a genuinely beautiful man, asked me to teach him and the other Fathers some basic Cantonese and Mandarin (well, actually, his request was "Can you teach us some Chinese?", at which point I had to point out that there are about 250 dialects, but for the most part in Toronto we can reduce it to three: Cantonese, Mandarin and Hakka. So anyway, here I am, a white boy from Winnipeg, teaching Greek Orthodox and Egyptian Copts the basics of Mandarin and Cantonese. Only in Canada, you might say. And I had this vision of going into a graceful retirement. LOL. As Michael Corleone said, "I keep trying to get out, but they keep dragging me back in." I guess that there's just no chance of retiring. Gonna work until I can't work any more, and that's that. And to make matters worse, now I've got teenage puppies asking me about HTML5. I need a new pharmaceutical called DamnItol. A. -- Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 04:51:28 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 05:51:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Microsoft stock price crashed today In-Reply-To: <013501d03b78$71656890$543039b0$@winhaven.net> References: <1E562828DF8744CDA296B09A88C4950C@XPS> <022801d03a64$92efe400$b8cfac00$@net> <02d801d03b08$93df0c70$bb9d2550$@net> <013501d03b78$71656890$543039b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: You're probably right on all counts, John; that said, the new CEO, Satya Nadella, seems to have got it right, IMHO. The free release of the next Windows upgrade is IMO a portent for the future. MS is a corporation with a responsibility to its shareholders, which means they must end up in the black ink rather than the red. But they can do that bundling Windows with laptops and tablets and even phones. and with Office atop that, they're pretty much home-free. OpenOffice and OfficeLibre are players, to be sure, but let's face it, they are small players: MS Office owns the roost. I champion the efforts of OpenOffice and OfficeLibre, but my personal and client-problem is that I have developed a bunch of Office-Integration code that blends Word, Access and Excel into powerful solutions, and I cannot as yet achieve these results in either OpenOffice or OfficeLibre. Both these products go just as far as the end user is concerned, and ignore the situation where 500 users are involved. Frankly, I have no idea how OpenOffice or OfficeLibre can surmount this gap, but until they figure it out, I can't recommend replacing the MS Office suite with either of these babies. One case in point. A few years back I wrote an Excel app for an investment corporation. The app visited about 100 folders and opened the Excel workbooks therein, grabbing the totals from various pages, and created a new WorkBook consisting of about 100 sheets, one for each investment fund, each containing last year's monthly results and this year's monthly results. I cannot do that in either OpenOffice or OfficeLibre (well, maybe it's possible but I haven't yet figured out how). So thus far, I cannot recommend replacing MS Excel with their free replacements. I would be most happy to learn from listers how to achieve this result on either of these free equivalents. Any ideas? A. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 05:00:01 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 06:00:01 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gustav, There is a band called FUN, which has a song called Carry On, and another called We Are Young. I love these guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7yCLn-O-Y0&list=RDq7yCLn-O-Y0#t=9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv6dMFF_yts You might think that at my age, 67, that I would not be into this kind of music. Well, you're wrong! So there. Carry on. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > Another multitalent, next to Susan. > As you see, efforts pays off with a better life. Carry on. > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller > Sendt: 29. januar 2015 02:10 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities > > Well, since we're all volunteers to some org or other, I am compelled to > relate a funny story. I do volunteer work at a place called St. John's > Mission, which is a modest church and shared by Greek Orthodox and Coptic > Christians. Way back when, I majored in Philosophy with a minor in > Religious Studies, and consequenly know a little about a lot of religions. > In St. John's Mission I have found some excellent company among the > Fathers of both sects, and frequently enjoy sharing meals with them, once > the volunteer part of it is done. > > A week ago I shared a meal with two Chinese people, one white Canadian, > one Metis, and Father Roberto. I was chatting with the Chinese people in > Mandarin. Father Roberto was amazed. So also, I think, were the Chinese > couple: it's not to be expected that a guailo (uncivilized person) can > speak Cantonese and/or Mandarin. But anyway, that's not the point of this > story. Father Roberto, a genuinely beautiful man, asked me to teach him and > the other Fathers some basic Cantonese and Mandarin (well, actually, his > request was "Can you teach us some Chinese?", at which point I had to point > out that there are about 250 dialects, but for the most part in Toronto we > can reduce it to three: Cantonese, Mandarin and Hakka. > > So anyway, here I am, a white boy from Winnipeg, teaching Greek Orthodox > and Egyptian Copts the basics of Mandarin and Cantonese. Only in Canada, > you might say. And I had this vision of going into a graceful retirement. > LOL. > > As Michael Corleone said, "I keep trying to get out, but they keep > dragging me back in." > > I guess that there's just no chance of retiring. Gonna work until I can't > work any more, and that's that. > > And to make matters worse, now I've got teenage puppies asking me about > HTML5. > > I need a new pharmaceutical called DamnItol. > > A. > > -- > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From mcp2004 at mail.ru Thu Jan 29 06:26:08 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:26:08 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?=5BAccessD=5D_Microsoft_stock_price_crashed_?= =?utf-8?q?today?= In-Reply-To: References: <013501d03b78$71656890$543039b0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <1422534368.243780836@f416.i.mail.ru> Hi Arthur, <<< I would be most happy to learn from listers ?how to achieve this result on?either of these free equivalents. Any ideas? >>> You can use Open Xml SDK: https://github.com/OfficeDev/Open-Xml-Sdk https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/bb448854.aspx A couple+ of years ago have used it to develop custom apps for my customer .docx and .xlsx templates/documents/workbooks, and it worked very well. There are quite a few tutorials available - you can use C# or VB.NET: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/hh180830%28v=office.14%29.aspx Here are tutorials I used in the past: http://ericwhite.com/blog/open-xml-sdk-expanded/ Here are?Python and Java (another SDK) tools: http://www.opendocumentformat.org/developers/ ... Thank you. -- Shamil Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:51 AM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller : >You're probably right on all counts, John; that said, the new CEO, Satya >Nadella, seems to have got it right, IMHO. The free release of the next >Windows upgrade is IMO a portent for the future. MS is a corporation with a >responsibility to its shareholders, which means they must end up in the >black ink rather than the red. But they can do that bundling Windows with >laptops and tablets and even phones. and with Office atop that, they're >pretty much home-free. OpenOffice and OfficeLibre are players, to be sure, >but let's face it, they are small players: MS Office owns the roost. > >I champion the efforts of OpenOffice and OfficeLibre, but my personal and >client-problem is that I have developed a bunch of Office-Integration code >that blends Word, Access and Excel into powerful solutions, and I cannot as >yet achieve these results in either OpenOffice or OfficeLibre. Both these >products go just as far as the end user is concerned, and ignore the >situation where 500 users are involved. > >Frankly, I have no idea how OpenOffice or OfficeLibre can surmount this >gap, but until they figure it out, I can't recommend replacing the MS >Office suite with either of these babies. > >One case in point. A few years back I wrote an Excel app for an investment >corporation. The app visited about 100 folders and opened the Excel >workbooks therein, grabbing the totals from various pages, and created a >new WorkBook consisting of about 100 sheets, one for each investment fund, >each containing last year's monthly results and this year's monthly >results. > >I cannot do that in either OpenOffice or OfficeLibre (well, maybe it's >possible but I haven't yet figured out how). So thus far, I cannot >recommend replacing MS Excel with their free replacements. > >I would be most happy to learn from listers how to achieve this result on >either of these free equivalents. Any ideas? > >A. From eptept at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 06:33:28 2015 From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 07:33:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Arthur, My wife has her phone going every morning, music that is, or she has the stereo (is that an ancient word) on. Yesterday it was John Denver and Bette Midler, One World and Beaches. She has XM in her car and definitely won't give it up. Actually have to look up if the Beocenter 9000 still exists. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Gustav, > > There is a band called FUN, which has a song called Carry On, and another > called We Are Young. I love these guys. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7yCLn-O-Y0&list=RDq7yCLn-O-Y0#t=9 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv6dMFF_yts > > You might think that at my age, 67, that I would not be into this kind of > music. Well, you're wrong! So there. Carry on. > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > Hi Arthur > > > > Another multitalent, next to Susan. > > As you see, efforts pays off with a better life. Carry on. > > > > /gustav > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller > > Sendt: 29. januar 2015 02:10 > > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Emne: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities > > > > Well, since we're all volunteers to some org or other, I am compelled to > > relate a funny story. I do volunteer work at a place called St. John's > > Mission, which is a modest church and shared by Greek Orthodox and Coptic > > Christians. Way back when, I majored in Philosophy with a minor in > > Religious Studies, and consequenly know a little about a lot of > religions. > > In St. John's Mission I have found some excellent company among the > > Fathers of both sects, and frequently enjoy sharing meals with them, once > > the volunteer part of it is done. > > > > A week ago I shared a meal with two Chinese people, one white Canadian, > > one Metis, and Father Roberto. I was chatting with the Chinese people in > > Mandarin. Father Roberto was amazed. So also, I think, were the Chinese > > couple: it's not to be expected that a guailo (uncivilized person) can > > speak Cantonese and/or Mandarin. But anyway, that's not the point of this > > story. Father Roberto, a genuinely beautiful man, asked me to teach him > and > > the other Fathers some basic Cantonese and Mandarin (well, actually, his > > request was "Can you teach us some Chinese?", at which point I had to > point > > out that there are about 250 dialects, but for the most part in Toronto > we > > can reduce it to three: Cantonese, Mandarin and Hakka. > > > > So anyway, here I am, a white boy from Winnipeg, teaching Greek Orthodox > > and Egyptian Copts the basics of Mandarin and Cantonese. Only in Canada, > > you might say. And I had this vision of going into a graceful retirement. > > LOL. > > > > As Michael Corleone said, "I keep trying to get out, but they keep > > dragging me back in." > > > > I guess that there's just no chance of retiring. Gonna work until I can't > > work any more, and that's that. > > > > And to make matters worse, now I've got teenage puppies asking me about > > HTML5. > > > > I need a new pharmaceutical called DamnItol. > > > > A. > > > > -- > > Arthur > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jan 29 16:49:26 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:49:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender In-Reply-To: <00fc01d039f2$c1430c50$43c924f0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <956305606.110584317.1422571766962.JavaMail.root@cds018> No...sorry. My experiences are dated. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, 26 January, 2015 9:33:17 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] BitDefender Hi List, Does anyone have firsthand, recent experience with Bit Defender Security? If so I'd appreciate a run down. TIA, John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jan 29 17:15:27 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 16:15:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] The world of Windows 10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1948175875.110607963.1422573327139.JavaMail.root@cds018> Have been playing around with Windows 10, trying to get it to work with a VMWare virtual drive, running on Linux. I am quite impressed on how "pretty" it is and how little impact it has on the hosting machine. Regardless of this I was just about ready to toss it. Getting it connected to the local DHCP, DNS and network was a real pain until I created three separate virtual LAN cards (bridged, NAT and Host), one using each of its three net protocols...now it searches out and connects to everything...every PC regardless of OS, routers, printers (network or shared), even the networks PS media server, which runs on address 5001. It might be a worthy competitor to Linux, minus a significant number of features and applications of course, if it keeps going like this. ;-) Still doesn't have or support any drivers though. Maybe by the time it is ready for official release, it will have more than 30 signed drivers. ;-) Jim From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jan 30 10:35:36 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:35:36 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones Message-ID: Hi all As you may know, you can get headphones at ridiculous prices well beyond $1K. These are aimed at hi-fi buffs with too much money. Finally, after many years, I found it was time for a set of pro headphones, and a little searching revealed this page: http://www.studioheadphonereview.com/krk-kns8400-studio-headphones/ As you can see, this is a top-notch product as rated by studio pros at 1/10 the price, so I ordered a set. I must have looked happy listening to some of my favourite music because wife asked if she could have them for a test. Of course. And here comes the advice: Don't do that. I hardly haven't seen them since except on my lovely Rita's head. It is a new world for her. As she mostly listen to classic music, I think she is right. The reviews are true. Listening is sheer pleasure with these KRK KNS8400 - it's really top value for the money. I may have to order another set. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 30 10:40:10 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:40:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2136845035.111279094.1422636010250.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Gustav: Thanks for posting this link...I have been looking for a good pair of earphones...at a reasonable price. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2015 8:35:36 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones Hi all As you may know, you can get headphones at ridiculous prices well beyond $1K. These are aimed at hi-fi buffs with too much money. Finally, after many years, I found it was time for a set of pro headphones, and a little searching revealed this page: http://www.studioheadphonereview.com/krk-kns8400-studio-headphones/ As you can see, this is a top-notch product as rated by studio pros at 1/10 the price, so I ordered a set. I must have looked happy listening to some of my favourite music because wife asked if she could have them for a test. Of course. And here comes the advice: Don't do that. I hardly haven't seen them since except on my lovely Rita's head. It is a new world for her. As she mostly listen to classic music, I think she is right. The reviews are true. Listening is sheer pleasure with these KRK KNS8400 - it's really top value for the money. I may have to order another set. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 30 10:52:14 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:52:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] OS Better Prosthetic Limb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <253952718.111291306.1422636734394.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi All: >From the first state to legalize recreational Marijuana comes an incredible inventor. At sixteen he had created a prosthetic hand from legos, toy motors, servo switches, fishing line and other plastic pieces. After high-school, using 3D graphics and printers he had designed an operational product...and finally he has open sourced his designs and software to the world. http://uproxx.com/technology/2015/01/easton-lachappelle-luminary He has already been offered a job at NASA. Jim From df.waters at outlook.com Fri Jan 30 11:01:52 2015 From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:01:52 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] OS Better Prosthetic Limb In-Reply-To: <253952718.111291306.1422636734394.JavaMail.root@cds018> References: <253952718.111291306.1422636734394.JavaMail.root@cds018> Message-ID: Looks to me like he could offer NASA a job! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:52 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] OS Better Prosthetic Limb Hi All: >From the first state to legalize recreational Marijuana comes an incredible inventor. At sixteen he had created a prosthetic hand from legos, toy motors, servo switches, fishing line and other plastic pieces. After high-school, using 3D graphics and printers he had designed an operational product...and finally he has open sourced his designs and software to the world. http://uproxx.com/technology/2015/01/easton-lachappelle-luminary He has already been offered a job at NASA. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 30 11:07:50 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:07:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] A good business In-Reply-To: <2136845035.111279094.1422636010250.JavaMail.root@cds018> Message-ID: <1782944752.111312187.1422637670915.JavaMail.root@cds018> My oldest daughter had been working with a friend for years, mostly off and on. I have mentioned the young lady before as she creates dolls. The doll makers comes from some Russian village, that I can not pronounce...at least correctly. One day I am sure this lady will be well known but right now she is well known to collectors. Here is a sample of her work as she is selling one of three dolls she has constructed in the last couple of months, on EBay. With an opening bid of 40K, here is the link to her latest doll. If you want to place a bid you still have a day to do so: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cinderella-Porcelain-Enchanted-Doll-BJD-/331459729976 Jim From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jan 30 11:22:47 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:22:47 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] A good business Message-ID: Hi Jim Oh my - it's 65K now ... looks stellar. Though I'm not quite sure what such collector's item is about. But who is creating the doll? Your daughter or her (Russian) friends ... I can't follow your writing. /Gustav PS: Love the second-last picture with the black stripes! -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 30. januar 2015 18:08 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] A good business My oldest daughter had been working with a friend for years, mostly off and on. I have mentioned the young lady before as she creates dolls. The doll makers comes from some Russian village, that I can not pronounce...at least correctly. One day I am sure this lady will be well known but right now she is well known to collectors. Here is a sample of her work as she is selling one of three dolls she has constructed in the last couple of months, on EBay. With an opening bid of 40K, here is the link to her latest doll. If you want to place a bid you still have a day to do so: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cinderella-Porcelain-Enchanted-Doll-BJD-/331459729976 Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 30 11:43:46 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:43:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Shouldn't the EU be run like a sports franchias? In-Reply-To: <1782944752.111312187.1422637670915.JavaMail.root@cds018> Message-ID: <160848294.111355290.1422639826678.JavaMail.root@cds018> The Greeks finally called, "Foul" and it is about time. http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2015/01/27/what-the-eu-can-learn-from-the-national-football-league Jim From jbartow at winhaven.net Fri Jan 30 11:44:33 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:44:33 -0600 Subject: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gustav, I'm looking for good wireless headphones. I have a pair from Sennheiser. Which have pretty good sound quality but the controls are poor and crackle when I adjust them. The volume control cuts the left side off in certain volume settings. I bought a cheap pair from a big box store and there are fairly awful. The base unit is battery powered only and the batteries do not last long. If the microwave is running they get interference(?) Given your experience, maybe I should buy a pair and a long cord? I would probably forget the cord though and wander through the house pulling my headset off! John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:36 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones Hi all As you may know, you can get headphones at ridiculous prices well beyond $1K. These are aimed at hi-fi buffs with too much money. Finally, after many years, I found it was time for a set of pro headphones, and a little searching revealed this page: http://www.studioheadphonereview.com/krk-kns8400-studio-headphones/ As you can see, this is a top-notch product as rated by studio pros at 1/10 the price, so I ordered a set. I must have looked happy listening to some of my favourite music because wife asked if she could have them for a test. Of course. And here comes the advice: Don't do that. I hardly haven't seen them since except on my lovely Rita's head. It is a new world for her. As she mostly listen to classic music, I think she is right. The reviews are true. Listening is sheer pleasure with these KRK KNS8400 - it's really top value for the money. I may have to order another set. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jan 30 12:14:31 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 18:14:31 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones Message-ID: Hi John The big trade-off is that wireless audio - typically via Blootooth - is compressed using lossy algorithms that don't match hi-quality digital audio at, say, 320 Kbps. For watching TV and such, they can be OK, but not for critical listening. Also, a wired headphone is always "ready to run". I could have recommended Sennheiser, also Beyer and Logitech. Usually brandnames are never really bad but cheap models are not built to last. Up to around the cost of the KRK phones you mostly get what you pay for. The only exception, I know of, is the hyped Beats. These should be really awful with an exaggerated bass that only hip-hoppers and disco junkies may prefer. The very best is, of course, to bring your own favourite music and go to a store and listen. Quite often shops with music and studio gear offer this service. The KRKs I bought at a local music shop. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 30. januar 2015 18:45 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones Prioritet: H?j Hi Gustav, I'm looking for good wireless headphones. I have a pair from Sennheiser. Which have pretty good sound quality but the controls are poor and crackle when I adjust them. The volume control cuts the left side off in certain volume settings. I bought a cheap pair from a big box store and there are fairly awful. The base unit is battery powered only and the batteries do not last long. If the microwave is running they get interference(?) Given your experience, maybe I should buy a pair and a long cord? I would probably forget the cord though and wander through the house pulling my headset off! John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:36 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones Hi all As you may know, you can get headphones at ridiculous prices well beyond $1K. These are aimed at hi-fi buffs with too much money. Finally, after many years, I found it was time for a set of pro headphones, and a little searching revealed this page: http://www.studioheadphonereview.com/krk-kns8400-studio-headphones/ As you can see, this is a top-notch product as rated by studio pros at 1/10 the price, so I ordered a set. I must have looked happy listening to some of my favourite music because wife asked if she could have them for a test. Of course. And here comes the advice: Don't do that. I hardly haven't seen them since except on my lovely Rita's head. It is a new world for her. As she mostly listen to classic music, I think she is right. The reviews are true. Listening is sheer pleasure with these KRK KNS8400 - it's really top value for the money. I may have to order another set. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 30 12:33:07 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:33:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1672184520.111413121.1422642787151.JavaMail.root@cds018> Good story...but people never really retire, just change vocations. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, 28 January, 2015 5:09:52 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Languages, Thoughts and Realities Well, since we're all volunteers to some org or other, I am compelled to relate a funny story. I do volunteer work at a place called St. John's Mission, which is a modest church and shared by Greek Orthodox and Coptic Christians. Way back when, I majored in Philosophy with a minor in Religious Studies, and consequenly know a little about a lot of religions. In St. John's Mission I have found some excellent company among the Fathers of both sects, and frequently enjoy sharing meals with them, once the volunteer part of it is done. A week ago I shared a meal with two Chinese people, one white Canadian, one Metis, and Father Roberto. I was chatting with the Chinese people in Mandarin. Father Roberto was amazed. So also, I think, were the Chinese couple: it's not to be expected that a guailo (uncivilized person) can speak Cantonese and/or Mandarin. But anyway, that's not the point of this story. Father Roberto, a genuinely beautiful man, asked me to teach him and the other Fathers some basic Cantonese and Mandarin (well, actually, his request was "Can you teach us some Chinese?", at which point I had to point out that there are about 250 dialects, but for the most part in Toronto we can reduce it to three: Cantonese, Mandarin and Hakka. So anyway, here I am, a white boy from Winnipeg, teaching Greek Orthodox and Egyptian Copts the basics of Mandarin and Cantonese. Only in Canada, you might say. And I had this vision of going into a graceful retirement. LOL. As Michael Corleone said, "I keep trying to get out, but they keep dragging me back in." I guess that there's just no chance of retiring. Gonna work until I can't work any more, and that's that. And to make matters worse, now I've got teenage puppies asking me about HTML5. I need a new pharmaceutical called DamnItol. A. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 30 13:15:48 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:15:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Microsoft stock price crashed today In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <466925626.111455712.1422645348111.JavaMail.root@cds018> When it comes to LibreOffice calc, to the best of my knowledge cascading spreadsheets are pretty standard fare. A client that I install LibreOffice on, a number of years ago, has their entire accounting system assembled on the spreadsheet. I did nothing to help them; they did it all themselves so it couldn't have been that difficult but, personally I have no experience with LibreOffice's product line (other their Writer). I would think that if you spent as much time on LibreOffice's spreadsheet program as you obvious did with the Microsoft Excel applications, I would suspect you could duplicate the results...any results. North America has not been very fertile ground, especially within the office, for the evolving and new order of business applications as the rest of the world has. Governments in Germany, France and Italy has embraced these new office production products and obviously have not been impacted by any serious limitations. Maybe it is just that we are getting old and set in our ways and not as adventuresome as the kids are? ;-) Here is a list of features compared between the two products: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office Note: that both application are in flux and in full development mode, so what is one product's limitation today will no be longer tomorrow. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Thursday, 29 January, 2015 2:51:28 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Microsoft stock price crashed today You're probably right on all counts, John; that said, the new CEO, Satya Nadella, seems to have got it right, IMHO. The free release of the next Windows upgrade is IMO a portent for the future. MS is a corporation with a responsibility to its shareholders, which means they must end up in the black ink rather than the red. But they can do that bundling Windows with laptops and tablets and even phones. and with Office atop that, they're pretty much home-free. OpenOffice and OfficeLibre are players, to be sure, but let's face it, they are small players: MS Office owns the roost. I champion the efforts of OpenOffice and OfficeLibre, but my personal and client-problem is that I have developed a bunch of Office-Integration code that blends Word, Access and Excel into powerful solutions, and I cannot as yet achieve these results in either OpenOffice or OfficeLibre. Both these products go just as far as the end user is concerned, and ignore the situation where 500 users are involved. Frankly, I have no idea how OpenOffice or OfficeLibre can surmount this gap, but until they figure it out, I can't recommend replacing the MS Office suite with either of these babies. One case in point. A few years back I wrote an Excel app for an investment corporation. The app visited about 100 folders and opened the Excel workbooks therein, grabbing the totals from various pages, and created a new WorkBook consisting of about 100 sheets, one for each investment fund, each containing last year's monthly results and this year's monthly results. I cannot do that in either OpenOffice or OfficeLibre (well, maybe it's possible but I haven't yet figured out how). So thus far, I cannot recommend replacing MS Excel with their free replacements. I would be most happy to learn from listers how to achieve this result on either of these free equivalents. Any ideas? A. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Jan 30 16:09:01 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:09:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] A good business In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1190534919.111628836.1422655741871.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Gustav: Marina Bychkova is the brains and drive behind these dolls but her significant other does most of the publicity work, behind the scenes. My daughter has been the only person that she trusts to help but my daughter has been tied up with our first grandchild. She may go back working together, at one point. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2015 9:22:47 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A good business Hi Jim Oh my - it's 65K now ... looks stellar. Though I'm not quite sure what such collector's item is about. But who is creating the doll? Your daughter or her (Russian) friends ... I can't follow your writing. /Gustav PS: Love the second-last picture with the black stripes! -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 30. januar 2015 18:08 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] A good business My oldest daughter had been working with a friend for years, mostly off and on. I have mentioned the young lady before as she creates dolls. The doll makers comes from some Russian village, that I can not pronounce...at least correctly. One day I am sure this lady will be well known but right now she is well known to collectors. Here is a sample of her work as she is selling one of three dolls she has constructed in the last couple of months, on EBay. With an opening bid of 40K, here is the link to her latest doll. If you want to place a bid you still have a day to do so: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cinderella-Porcelain-Enchanted-Doll-BJD-/331459729976 Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jan 31 03:09:51 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 02:09:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ? In-Reply-To: <1422260756.693220456@f129.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1679189062.111983122.1422695391250.JavaMail.root@cds018> Hi Shamil: I have been looking at how CoreOS functions. Buying a droplet on DigitalOcean as far as I can see is the cheapest way to be able to test and maybe eventually deploy CoreOS...a very interesting technology to say the least. I plan to install Docker along with OwnCloud and Juju on a home server...it should be ready by next week. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:25:56 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] CoreOS ? Hi All -- I'm planning to implement for my customers a scalable on demand set of RESTFul ?web services serving a few custom application functions as well being "front-ends" to a few custom databases. And I'm currently looking at CoreOS (https://coreos.com/). Do you have any experience with it?? My RESTFul web services would probably be running on NodeJS (or PHP or Python) and my custom databases would be stored on mySQL (MariaDB?) - not sure about that last position yet as backend datamodels are relatively simple and so there could be no need to use a relational databases. Although currently MS Access and MS SQL with sometimes advanced SQL queries, stored procedures and user defined functions is used on backend, so if migrating to a noSQL backend these queries, stored procedures and user defined functions should be probably implemented in code. I'd also probably need to implement a full text flexible search system using Sphinx ( http://sphinxsearch.com ) And there should also exist a fallback solution for all that architecture - a system configuration to run locally (very moderately scalable of course) in the case a cloud hosting as e.g.? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-coreos-system-components ?will go down and will become unavailable for a long period of time. The latter is very improbable but anyway - a fallback solution would be a must to convince the customers to scale their currently more than 50% desktop/LAN based system configuration. Thank you. -- ???????????? ?????? _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 07:45:08 2015 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 13:45:08 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Friday OT: Headphones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Gustav, well wear, nothing nicer than a high quality pair of headphones. They always remind me of my father. On 30 January 2015 at 16:35, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > As you may know, you can get headphones at ridiculous prices well beyond > $1K. These are aimed at hi-fi buffs with too much money. > > Finally, after many years, I found it was time for a set of pro > headphones, and a little searching revealed this page: > > http://www.studioheadphonereview.com/krk-kns8400-studio-headphones/ > > As you can see, this is a top-notch product as rated by studio pros at > 1/10 the price, so I ordered a set. > > I must have looked happy listening to some of my favourite music because > wife asked if she could have them for a test. Of course. > And here comes the advice: Don't do that. I hardly haven't seen them since > except on my lovely Rita's head. It is a new world for her. As she mostly > listen to classic music, I think she is right. > > The reviews are true. Listening is sheer pleasure with these KRK KNS8400 - > it's really top value for the money. I may have to order another set. > > /gustav > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >