From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 02:55:03 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 00:55:03 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized
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Jim,

Maybe. I finally got past the boot problem and Windows 10 is running as the
base OS. Maybe I should have installed it as a VM, but I liked it so much
better than Windows 8.1 that I bit the bullet. The puzzling thing is that
for a while it did recognize the second monitor, but now it doesn't. O
well. Maybe the final release will fix it. Meanwhile I suppose I could try
something else, like swapping monitors with my ancient tower.

A.

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Is your OS a single type with virtual drives or has the hard drive been
> made into multiple partitions?
>
> The current Windows 10 is just a beta and until it comes out in its final
> version I would keep it separated in it own VD...maybe not even then. Do
> you have a system backup and can format and re-install?
>
> Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 05:31:30 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 06:31:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files
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Is there a way (or app) to create a list of files created today, and then,
ideally, pipe said list to an archive program such as WinRAR? I would love
to do that, just so I can feel safe every day.

-- 
Arthur

From Mike.Tope at saipem.com  Mon Jun  1 06:24:15 2015
From: Mike.Tope at saipem.com (Tope Mike)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:24:15 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files
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In windows:-
Forfiles takes a date argument
Or maybe xcopy /d /s /l

regards
Mike Tope

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Sent: 01 June 2015 11:32
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files

Is there a way (or app) to create a list of files created today, and then,
ideally, pipe said list to an archive program such as WinRAR? I would love
to do that, just so I can feel safe every day.

--
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 06:48:00 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 07:48:00 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files
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Thanks, Mike.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Tope Mike <Mike.Tope at saipem.com> wrote:

> In windows:-
> Forfiles takes a date argument
> Or maybe xcopy /d /s /l
>
> regards
> Mike Tope

From Mike.Tope at saipem.com  Mon Jun  1 08:57:29 2015
From: Mike.Tope at saipem.com (Tope Mike)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 13:57:29 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files
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Vbscript gives us date arithmetic. This is just two lines, run it in a DOS box with cscript scriptname.vbs:-

Set objShell = Wscript.CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
objShell.run "cmd /k forfiles /s /d " & dateadd("d",-1,date()) & " /c ""cmd /c if @isdir==FALSE 0x22%ProgramFiles%\Winzip\Winzip32.exe0x22 -a lastday.zip @file"""

regards
Mike

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Sent: 01 June 2015 12:48
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Today's files

Thanks, Mike.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Tope Mike <Mike.Tope at saipem.com> wrote:

> In windows:-
> Forfiles takes a date argument
> Or maybe xcopy /d /s /l
>
> regards
> Mike Tope
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 10:53:48 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:53:48 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files
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Wow. That is slick, and just what the doctor ordered. Thanks much.

Arthur

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Tope Mike <Mike.Tope at saipem.com> wrote:

> Vbscript gives us date arithmetic. This is just two lines, run it in a DOS
> box with cscript scriptname.vbs:-
>
> Set objShell = Wscript.CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
> objShell.run "cmd /k forfiles /s /d " & dateadd("d",-1,date()) & " /c
> ""cmd /c if @isdir==FALSE 0x22%ProgramFiles%\Winzip\Winzip32.exe0x22 -a
> lastday.zip @file"""
>
> regards
> Mike

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Jun  1 11:14:00 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:14:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files
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Hi Mike,
That's nice.

I was wondering if this could be done using Windows Explorer compression
(zip) utility.

John B

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Tope Mike
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Today's files

Vbscript gives us date arithmetic. This is just two lines, run it in a DOS
box with cscript scriptname.vbs:-

Set objShell = Wscript.CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
objShell.run "cmd /k forfiles /s /d " & dateadd("d",-1,date()) & " /c ""cmd
/c if @isdir==FALSE 0x22%ProgramFiles%\Winzip\Winzip32.exe0x22 -a
lastday.zip @file"""

regards
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: 01 June 2015 12:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Today's files

Thanks, Mike.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Tope Mike <Mike.Tope at saipem.com> wrote:

> In windows:-
> Forfiles takes a date argument
> Or maybe xcopy /d /s /l
>
> regards
> Mike Tope
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From Mike.Tope at saipem.com  Mon Jun  1 11:26:36 2015
From: Mike.Tope at saipem.com (Tope Mike)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 16:26:36 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files
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It can be done without Winzip. You need this little script as zip.vbs (thankyou Google):-
'Get command-line arguments.
Set objArgs = WScript.Arguments
InputFolder = objArgs(0)
ZipFile = objArgs(1)

'Create empty ZIP file.
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").CreateTextFile(ZipFile, True).Write "PK" & Chr(5) & Chr(6) & String(18, vbNullChar)

Set objShell = CreateObject("Shell.Application")

Set source = objShell.NameSpace(InputFolder).Items

objShell.NameSpace(ZipFile).CopyHere(source)

' Wait for compression window to open
set scriptShell = CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
Do While scriptShell.AppActivate("Compressing...") = FALSE
   WScript.Sleep 500 ' Arbitrary polling delay
Loop

' Wait for compression to complete before exiting script
Do While scriptShell.AppActivate("Compressing...") = TRUE
   WScript.Sleep 500 ' Arbitrary polling delay
Loop

And I called it using a variation on this:-
cscript.exe /nologo c:\space\zip.vbs <folder to zip> <targetzipfile>.zip
Note that that zips a whole folder into a compressed folder, so the forfiles command wants to just copy the files there beforehand.

You probably also want to name the zip file using the date - the possibilities are endless.

regards
Mike

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Sent: 01 June 2015 17:14
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Today's files
Importance: High

Hi Mike,
That's nice.

I was wondering if this could be done using Windows Explorer compression
(zip) utility.

John B

-----Original Message-----
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Tope Mike
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:57 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Today's files

Vbscript gives us date arithmetic. This is just two lines, run it in a DOS
box with cscript scriptname.vbs:-

Set objShell = Wscript.CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
objShell.run "cmd /k forfiles /s /d " & dateadd("d",-1,date()) & " /c ""cmd
/c if @isdir==FALSE 0x22%ProgramFiles%\Winzip\Winzip32.exe0x22 -a
lastday.zip @file"""

regards
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: 01 June 2015 12:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Today's files

Thanks, Mike.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Tope Mike <Mike.Tope at saipem.com> wrote:

> In windows:-
> Forfiles takes a date argument
> Or maybe xcopy /d /s /l
>
> regards
> Mike Tope
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 12:16:31 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:16:31 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Measure actual read/write speed of USBs?
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h4emV1KFp7RiK_dB4K6_JUHAE2TuQYc5xwDUXXFwSuHA@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a utility somewhere that will measure these things? I have several
USBs (a 1TB external, a 2TB external, a 64GB thumb and a 250GB external),
and would be much interested to learn their relative capabilities.

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  1 13:01:43 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 12:01:43 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized
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Hi Arthur:

Hopefully it is just a Windows 10 thing and nothing to do with the hardware. Gustav should be our regional expert on the latest flavour of Windows. I, myself am not even sure how you would get to the section that handles the Windows display. The system at the very least should detect all connected video devises. If the OS shows all the devices then I would chalk the problem up to a device code driver issue. If all the devices are not shown, I would become more concerned as to whether all the hardware is working as it is supposed to. 

If you have either a Linux partition or can run a "Live" Ubuntu via your USB, it will tell you whether your hardware is working right...as it has always worked first time and every time, I tend to trust its responses...and in particular its results would remove the Win10 OS from equation...either a clean bill of health or a legitimate driver problem.

Just a thought
Jim
    

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 12:55:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized

Jim,

Maybe. I finally got past the boot problem and Windows 10 is running as the
base OS. Maybe I should have installed it as a VM, but I liked it so much
better than Windows 8.1 that I bit the bullet. The puzzling thing is that
for a while it did recognize the second monitor, but now it doesn't. O
well. Maybe the final release will fix it. Meanwhile I suppose I could try
something else, like swapping monitors with my ancient tower.

A.

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Is your OS a single type with virtual drives or has the hard drive been
> made into multiple partitions?
>
> The current Windows 10 is just a beta and until it comes out in its final
> version I would keep it separated in it own VD...maybe not even then. Do
> you have a system backup and can format and re-install?
>
> Jim
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From hkotsch at arcor.de  Mon Jun  1 13:37:48 2015
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 20:37:48 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Measure actual read/write speed of USBs?
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Check here:

CrystalDiskMark 4.0.3a - Disk Benchmark


http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en

Helmut


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Betreff: [dba-Tech] Measure actual read/write speed of USBs?

Is there a utility somewhere that will measure these things? I have several
USBs (a 1TB external, a 2TB external, a 64GB thumb and a 250GB external),
and would be much interested to learn their relative capabilities.

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  1 16:37:23 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:37:23 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
Message-ID: <556CD093.9050604@earthlink.net>

M$oft did their best to persuade us stubborn winxp users that refusal to 
upgrade will be punished soon by disaster.

When I saw winxp prof running on a Delta Airlines workstation in SFO 
yesterday, I felt a wee bit less afraid.

PB

From jwcolby at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 17:43:45 2015
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 18:43:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
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References: <556CD093.9050604@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <556CE021.3060005@gmail.com>

LOL, I dunno, I might have felt a wee bit MORE afraid.  Were you flying 
on that airline?

And on a humorous note, how about the guy hacking into his seatback 
entertainment system and getting into the flight control system. Now 
THAT is scary stuff!

John W. Colby

On 6/1/2015 5:37 PM, Peter Brawley wrote:
> M$oft did their best to persuade us stubborn winxp users that refusal 
> to upgrade will be punished soon by disaster.
>
> When I saw winxp prof running on a Delta Airlines workstation in SFO 
> yesterday, I felt a wee bit less afraid.
>
> PB
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  1 17:49:44 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 17:49:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
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References: <556CD093.9050604@earthlink.net> <556CE021.3060005@gmail.com>
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On 2015-06-01 5:43 PM, John W. Colby wrote:
> LOL, I dunno, I might have felt a wee bit MORE afraid. 

Then you & I have somewhat different wiring :-).

> Were you flying on that airline?

Sure was, and next day I still be here :-).

PB

-----
>
> And on a humorous note, how about the guy hacking into his seatback 
> entertainment system and getting into the flight control system. Now 
> THAT is scary stuff!
>
> John W. Colby
>
> On 6/1/2015 5:37 PM, Peter Brawley wrote:
>> M$oft did their best to persuade us stubborn winxp users that refusal 
>> to upgrade will be punished soon by disaster.
>>
>> When I saw winxp prof running on a Delta Airlines workstation in SFO 
>> yesterday, I felt a wee bit less afraid.
>>
>> PB
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 18:00:06 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 16:00:06 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Today's files
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Tope Mike <Mike.Tope at saipem.com> wrote:

> 'Get command-line arguments.
> Set objArgs = WScript.Arguments
> InputFolder = objArgs(0)
> ZipFile = objArgs(1)
>
> 'Create empty ZIP file.
> CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").CreateTextFile(ZipFile,
> True).Write "PK" & Chr(5) & Chr(6) & String(18, vbNullChar)
>
> Set objShell = CreateObject("Shell.Application")
>
> Set source = objShell.NameSpace(InputFolder).Items
>
> objShell.NameSpace(ZipFile).CopyHere(source)
>
> ' Wait for compression window to open
> set scriptShell = CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
> Do While scriptShell.AppActivate("Compressing...") = FALSE
>    WScript.Sleep 500 ' Arbitrary polling delay
> Loop
>
> ' Wait for compression to complete before exiting script
> Do While scriptShell.AppActivate("Compressing...") = TRUE
>    WScript.Sleep 500 ' Arbitrary polling delay
> Loop
>
> And I called it using a variation on this:-
> cscript.exe /nologo c:\space\zip.vbs <folder to zip> <targetzipfile>.zip
> Note that that zips a whole folder into a compressed folder, so the
> forfiles command wants to just copy the files there beforehand.
>
> You probably also want to name the zip file using the date - the
> possibilities are endless.
>

Way cool, Mike. You're bringing back memories of when I released my first
product, Artful.Lib, whose installation was totally done with a batch file
that accepted several args and if not supplied, went with default args.
Wow, that was 1988, a long time ago. And nowadays we have PowerShell to
make everything a tad more spiffy, but in essence it's the same old game.
Thanks a lot for your help, Mike.

Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  1 19:15:37 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:15:37 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
In-Reply-To: <556CD093.9050604@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1233124445.87149487.1433204137478.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Peter:

There is hardly a business that isn't using XP. A bunch of us geeks were conversing about the state of the industry and all of us know dozens of businesses where XP sits behind the scenes, in all automation and POS systems...I really find it amazing. People that are working on desktops are using the newest Windows variations but in any type of appliance software there appears to be that XP/2000/NT hiding behind the scenes. I really wonder how many of these packages are out there running as there is no way to document them as they rarely appear on the web and are therefore being substantially under reported..

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 2:37:23 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated

M$oft did their best to persuade us stubborn winxp users that refusal to 
upgrade will be punished soon by disaster.

When I saw winxp prof running on a Delta Airlines workstation in SFO 
yesterday, I felt a wee bit less afraid.

PB
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  1 20:18:02 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (peter.brawley at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 21:18:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
Message-ID: <725437693.12485.1433207882266.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Jim,

Doesn't amaze me, does reassure me that this number of users resisted the corporare sales spam.

PB


---- Original Message ----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
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Date: 06/01/15 8:15 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
Hi Peter:

There is hardly a business that isn't using XP. A bunch of us geeks were conversing about the state of the industry and all of us know dozens of businesses where XP sits behind the scenes, in all automation and POS systems...I really find it amazing. People that are working on desktops are using the newest Windows variations but in any type of appliance software there appears to be that XP/2000/NT hiding behind the scenes. I really wonder how many of these packages are out there running as there is no way to document them as they rarely appear on the web and are therefore being substantially under reported..

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 2:37:23 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated

M$oft did their best to persuade us stubborn winxp users that refusal to 
upgrade will be punished soon by disaster.

When I saw winxp prof running on a Delta Airlines workstation in SFO 
yesterday, I felt a wee bit less afraid.

PB
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  1 20:54:02 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 19:54:02 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
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Hi Petter:

I tend to agree...regardless of comments to the contrary, XP was a pretty stable product and as long as it is not expected to do web stuff, it is very safe. If MS ever gave an upgrade path to the XP users we would then see millions of upgrade requests...but that is never going to happen so I would bet there will be XP machines running long after I am gone. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 6:18:02 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated

Hi Jim,

Doesn't amaze me, does reassure me that this number of users resisted the corporare sales spam.

PB


---- Original Message ----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 06/01/15 8:15 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
Hi Peter:

There is hardly a business that isn't using XP. A bunch of us geeks were conversing about the state of the industry and all of us know dozens of businesses where XP sits behind the scenes, in all automation and POS systems...I really find it amazing. People that are working on desktops are using the newest Windows variations but in any type of appliance software there appears to be that XP/2000/NT hiding behind the scenes. I really wonder how many of these packages are out there running as there is no way to document them as they rarely appear on the web and are therefore being substantially under reported..

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 2:37:23 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated

M$oft did their best to persuade us stubborn winxp users that refusal to 
upgrade will be punished soon by disaster.

When I saw winxp prof running on a Delta Airlines workstation in SFO 
yesterday, I felt a wee bit less afraid.

PB
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 01:50:39 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 23:50:39 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized
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Hi Jim,

I used to have my 64GB thumb drive configured to boot Linux but then I
needed it for other purposes so now I have to rebuild it, and prior to that
find the article that I followed in order to build it. But a simple Google
should get me there. Thanks for the idea. I shall try it.

As I write this, it's 2:14am. One of the strangest aspects of increasing
age is the lack of need to sleep. I've never been a heavy sleeper but now
I'm down to 4 hours per day. Which is not to be interpreted as I get a lot
more done. Hell, no. I spend most of the time reading or watching movies.
And speaking of movies, yesterday I saw the new Mad Max, in 3D. Wow. From
the opening scene in the first Mad Max, I knew it was going to be a great
movie (a crane shot, slowly elevating to reveal Max's car coming over a
hill in the distance). In the new Mad Max, Max is a peripheral character.
It's all about the Charlize Theron character. Ms. Theron has previously
delivered stellar performances and add this one to her list.

Ok, Time to search for that article that told me how to create a USB Linux
boot disk.

A.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Hopefully it is just a Windows 10 thing and nothing to do with the
> hardware. Gustav should be our regional expert on the latest flavour of
> Windows. I, myself am not even sure how you would get to the section that
> handles the Windows display. The system at the very least should detect all
> connected video devises. If the OS shows all the devices then I would chalk
> the problem up to a device code driver issue. If all the devices are not
> shown, I would become more concerned as to whether all the hardware is
> working as it is supposed to.
>
> If you have either a Linux partition or can run a "Live" Ubuntu via your
> USB, it will tell you whether your hardware is working right...as it has
> always worked first time and every time, I tend to trust its
> responses...and in particular its results would remove the Win10 OS from
> equation...either a clean bill of health or a legitimate driver problem.
>
> Just a thought
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 12:55:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized
>
> Jim,
>
> Maybe. I finally got past the boot problem and Windows 10 is running as the
> base OS. Maybe I should have installed it as a VM, but I liked it so much
> better than Windows 8.1 that I bit the bullet. The puzzling thing is that
> for a while it did recognize the second monitor, but now it doesn't. O
> well. Maybe the final release will fix it. Meanwhile I suppose I could try
> something else, like swapping monitors with my ancient tower.
>
> A.
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi Arthur:
> >
> > Is your OS a single type with virtual drives or has the hard drive been
> > made into multiple partitions?
> >
> > The current Windows 10 is just a beta and until it comes out in its final
> > version I would keep it separated in it own VD...maybe not even then. Do
> > you have a system backup and can format and re-install?
> >
> > Jim
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 02:16:32 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 00:16:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Measure actual read/write speed of USBs?
In-Reply-To: <000701d09c9a$0f5304e0$2df90ea0$@de>
References: <CAEPJO1h4emV1KFp7RiK_dB4K6_JUHAE2TuQYc5xwDUXXFwSuHA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for the link, Helmut. Now running the tool on both boxes.

Arthur
?

From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Jun  2 08:19:05 2015
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:19:05 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] ownCloud
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References: <1521265194.86187983.1433104073415.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <556DAD49.8060005@torchlake.com>

Jim,
I'm very interested in learning from your experience with this product.  
Please keep telling about it.  I took a quick look into the website, but 
did not find the pricing policy, so I'd like to know more about that 
part of it.  What are the commitments one must make in order to have 
ownCloud?  How might I make use of it - for example, could I use it to 
host my own online tutorials?
Thanks for any information.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 05/31/15 4:27 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I finally have a copy of ownCloud running on a server. The only initial expenses is the cost of a Domain name and that can be as cheap $1.49 per year.
>
> The great thing about ownCloud is the you can share, upload and download, using any policy, privilege or encryption arrangement you wish, with family, friends and business associates and with any number of files and file types, via any web browser. The amount of data is only limited by your resources. That of course is just the start.
>
> Most files type can also be read, viewed, added, deleted and even collaborated with like documents and spreadsheets...even graphic and software development  collaborations are coming on line.  This is done through a series of "plugins" and APIs which, for the most part run on the client's computers, so it is low over head on the server and on the client. There are also plugins/APIs which extend it capabilities, like torrent mail, various levels of data synchronization and backups.
>
> If you consider a business?s ownCloud like a node, which dozens of clients can connect to, for access to resource then clusters of nodes (ownCloud sites) can be federated together. Some existing "federations" have exceed 5000 nodes...all sharing data and resources. The product is also capable of integrating with other Cloud structures, SharePoint, Windows network drives, Dropbox and with Cloud management and tools applications like Juju.
>
> So far all I have been sharing is family photos but I have been testing some word documents and spreadsheets. I would also like to see is a database can be shared but that is for future efforts.
>
> It is easy to initially setup and many instruction say that it should take no more than ten minutes. For the full-meal-deal check out the following link where even hosting and full-time support arrangements can be made. This product is basically a poor man's Share-Point and Cloud hosting system, with most and maybe more features, personal security and private ownership.
>
> https://owncloud.com/owncloud-overview
>
> ...and...
>
> https://owncloud.com/products/enterprise
>
> Jim
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 10:36:48 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:36:48 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jAjLf8U=+cEGdYT83qegDkSWR8j3w=ugrqXxY_o70Ghw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <579860984.87520514.1433259408857.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Arthur

I heard it was a well designed film; spectacular special effects and a well written script.

As the price of thumb drives goes down it, I like having a few around. Any Linux distro will fit comfortably on a 32 GB USB. The latest Ubuntu 15.04 64 bit server ISO with GUI is only 1.1 GB in size so you can probably run up a live version on any old thumb drive you happen to have around. (It only takes 385MB of RAM to run it)

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 11:50:39 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized

Hi Jim,

I used to have my 64GB thumb drive configured to boot Linux but then I
needed it for other purposes so now I have to rebuild it, and prior to that
find the article that I followed in order to build it. But a simple Google
should get me there. Thanks for the idea. I shall try it.

As I write this, it's 2:14am. One of the strangest aspects of increasing
age is the lack of need to sleep. I've never been a heavy sleeper but now
I'm down to 4 hours per day. Which is not to be interpreted as I get a lot
more done. Hell, no. I spend most of the time reading or watching movies.
And speaking of movies, yesterday I saw the new Mad Max, in 3D. Wow. From
the opening scene in the first Mad Max, I knew it was going to be a great
movie (a crane shot, slowly elevating to reveal Max's car coming over a
hill in the distance). In the new Mad Max, Max is a peripheral character.
It's all about the Charlize Theron character. Ms. Theron has previously
delivered stellar performances and add this one to her list.

Ok, Time to search for that article that told me how to create a USB Linux
boot disk.

A.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> Hopefully it is just a Windows 10 thing and nothing to do with the
> hardware. Gustav should be our regional expert on the latest flavour of
> Windows. I, myself am not even sure how you would get to the section that
> handles the Windows display. The system at the very least should detect all
> connected video devises. If the OS shows all the devices then I would chalk
> the problem up to a device code driver issue. If all the devices are not
> shown, I would become more concerned as to whether all the hardware is
> working as it is supposed to.
>
> If you have either a Linux partition or can run a "Live" Ubuntu via your
> USB, it will tell you whether your hardware is working right...as it has
> always worked first time and every time, I tend to trust its
> responses...and in particular its results would remove the Win10 OS from
> equation...either a clean bill of health or a legitimate driver problem.
>
> Just a thought
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 12:55:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized
>
> Jim,
>
> Maybe. I finally got past the boot problem and Windows 10 is running as the
> base OS. Maybe I should have installed it as a VM, but I liked it so much
> better than Windows 8.1 that I bit the bullet. The puzzling thing is that
> for a while it did recognize the second monitor, but now it doesn't. O
> well. Maybe the final release will fix it. Meanwhile I suppose I could try
> something else, like swapping monitors with my ancient tower.
>
> A.
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi Arthur:
> >
> > Is your OS a single type with virtual drives or has the hard drive been
> > made into multiple partitions?
> >
> > The current Windows 10 is just a beta and until it comes out in its final
> > version I would keep it separated in it own VD...maybe not even then. Do
> > you have a system backup and can format and re-install?
> >
> > Jim
> _______________________________________________
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Jun  2 10:36:53 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:36:53 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist
Message-ID: <02e301d09d49$f3cd0ee0$db672ca0$@winhaven.net>

There is a concerning new "sleeper" ransomware twist.

http://blog.knowbe4.com/is-your-network-infected-with-sleeper-ransomware

 


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Jun  2 10:50:21 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:50:21 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too
Message-ID: <02f201d09d4b$d535b840$7fa128c0$@winhaven.net>

http://www.eweek.com/mobile/slideshows/what-ios-android-device-users-can-exp
ect-from-cortana.html


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Jun  2 11:19:38 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:19:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist
In-Reply-To: <02e301d09d49$f3cd0ee0$db672ca0$@winhaven.net>
References: <02e301d09d49$f3cd0ee0$db672ca0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <030701d09d4f$ec5f4c30$c51de490$@winhaven.net>

What do you think of this development!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John R Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:37 AM
To: 'Off Topic'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist
Importance: High

There is a concerning new "sleeper" ransomware twist.

http://blog.knowbe4.com/is-your-network-infected-with-sleeper-ransomware

 

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 12:40:13 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:40:13 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] This pretty much dictates the future of JavaScript
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gFJNFNA4EZrhJ=++OxupWOUAt8wCdtvbZW+-wKmdQoow@mail.gmail.com>

Google has adopted TypeScript as the way to go. I'm an insignificant
player, but I happen to agree with this move. Click here
<https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2015/05/01/typescript-futures.aspx>
for more info about this move. IMO, a couple of things are apparent: 1)
Anders got it right about fixing JavaScript; 2) the Google folks
appreciated that and do not suffer from the NIH (not invented here) problem
that plagues so many SMBs and even large companies.

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 12:42:06 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:42:06 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] ownCloud
In-Reply-To: <556DAD49.8060005@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <721047190.87634673.1433266926320.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Tina:

The ownCloud is basically free but there are service costs if you need it setup (if you are a business) and there is also a hosting service which I would suspect costs as well. There is a pricing policy but it is based on volume and usage. 

I am not sure what you know about DNS so I will assume that you do not know anything...my apologies if you are already versed in the basics. The other main costs is that you must have a domain registered. That is not particularly expensive. I have my main domain directed to a service like ZoneEdit (http://www.zoneedit.com), is forwarded from there to my IP address. This service allows me to create any number subdomains like https://jim.MyDomain.com, https://tina.MyDomain.com and so on. ZoneEdit's services are free for one domain and for unlimited subdomains within that domain. Within a home or business network, these subdomains can be forwarded to any server in the network..to do any local Domain management (hosting and forwarding) you must have a Internet server like IIS or Apache (they are free) running on one of the network servers and all internet traffic routed to it (via your router of course). Example of getting the latest IIS version: http://www.iis.net/learn/install/installing-iis-85 or Apache version: http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi

This is unrelated, directly, to the installation of ownCloud but if you are "rolling your own", on your own network, all the above must be in place first. (though not nearly as difficult as it may sound, this is used as an excuse for having ownCloud hosted...which to my way of thinking defeats much of the purpose for having ownCloud. ;-))  The only other issue of note is that ownCloud only runs on a 64 bit computer. Until recently ownCloud only ran on Linux but it has been ported to all major operating systems. Here is a brief overview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OwnCloud

Of course, you can go the DigitalOcean route (https://www.digitalocean.com). It can be a pretty cheap way to get an internet presence going. For example: if you choose the $5 basic package and enter the promo code "dounplugged", you will get a $10 bonus, which means three months for $5. If you use more than resources you just pay more but there are no penalties for overages. The droplet can be presetup with ownCloud application, all ready to go (there are also extensive tutorials on everything related):

https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-the-owncloud-one-click-install-application

I may try to see if I can get a MS Access application running...BE on ownCloud and FE on the desktop station but of course it will only work if the internet connection is stable otherwise it is ADO.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tina Norris Fields" <tinanfields at torchlake.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:19:05 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] ownCloud

Jim,
I'm very interested in learning from your experience with this product.  
Please keep telling about it.  I took a quick look into the website, but 
did not find the pricing policy, so I'd like to know more about that 
part of it.  What are the commitments one must make in order to have 
ownCloud?  How might I make use of it - for example, could I use it to 
host my own online tutorials?
Thanks for any information.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 05/31/15 4:27 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I finally have a copy of ownCloud running on a server. The only initial expenses is the cost of a Domain name and that can be as cheap $1.49 per year.
>
> The great thing about ownCloud is the you can share, upload and download, using any policy, privilege or encryption arrangement you wish, with family, friends and business associates and with any number of files and file types, via any web browser. The amount of data is only limited by your resources. That of course is just the start.
>
> Most files type can also be read, viewed, added, deleted and even collaborated with like documents and spreadsheets...even graphic and software development  collaborations are coming on line.  This is done through a series of "plugins" and APIs which, for the most part run on the client's computers, so it is low over head on the server and on the client. There are also plugins/APIs which extend it capabilities, like torrent mail, various levels of data synchronization and backups.
>
> If you consider a business?s ownCloud like a node, which dozens of clients can connect to, for access to resource then clusters of nodes (ownCloud sites) can be federated together. Some existing "federations" have exceed 5000 nodes...all sharing data and resources. The product is also capable of integrating with other Cloud structures, SharePoint, Windows network drives, Dropbox and with Cloud management and tools applications like Juju.
>
> So far all I have been sharing is family photos but I have been testing some word documents and spreadsheets. I would also like to see is a database can be shared but that is for future efforts.
>
> It is easy to initially setup and many instruction say that it should take no more than ten minutes. For the full-meal-deal check out the following link where even hosting and full-time support arrangements can be made. This product is basically a poor man's Share-Point and Cloud hosting system, with most and maybe more features, personal security and private ownership.
>
> https://owncloud.com/owncloud-overview
>
> ...and...
>
> https://owncloud.com/products/enterprise
>
> Jim
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 12:55:17 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:55:17 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist
In-Reply-To: <02e301d09d49$f3cd0ee0$db672ca0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <775533670.87646588.1433267717261.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

Seeing that the malware, could safely jump pass system's initial interrogation, install its self and hide undetected, on people's computers with none of the security discovering it actually says more than the subsequent chaos created.

Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:36:53 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist

There is a concerning new "sleeper" ransomware twist.

http://blog.knowbe4.com/is-your-network-infected-with-sleeper-ransomware

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 12:58:51 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:58:51 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too
In-Reply-To: <02f201d09d4b$d535b840$7fa128c0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1047850167.87648938.1433267931025.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

The potential of Cortana and Siri competing on the same turf makes me smile.

Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:50:21 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too

http://www.eweek.com/mobile/slideshows/what-ios-android-device-users-can-exp
ect-from-cortana.html

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Jun  2 14:38:56 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:38:56 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist
In-Reply-To: <775533670.87646588.1433267717261.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <02e301d09d49$f3cd0ee0$db672ca0$@winhaven.net>
	<775533670.87646588.1433267717261.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <035f01d09d6b$c440b1a0$4cc214e0$@winhaven.net>

If you read to the end you'll get a chuckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:55 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist

Hi John:

Seeing that the malware, could safely jump pass system's initial
interrogation, install its self and hide undetected, on people's computers
with none of the security discovering it actually says more than the
subsequent chaos created.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Off Topic" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>, "Discussion of Hardware and
Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:36:53 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist

There is a concerning new "sleeper" ransomware twist.

http://blog.knowbe4.com/is-your-network-infected-with-sleeper-ransomware

 

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Jun  2 14:38:56 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:38:56 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too
In-Reply-To: <1047850167.87648938.1433267931025.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <02f201d09d4b$d535b840$7fa128c0$@winhaven.net>
	<1047850167.87648938.1433267931025.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <036001d09d6b$c4637be0$4d2a73a0$@winhaven.net>

This will be my first interaction with Cortana. I've used siri and google
voice. Hopefully Cortana doesn't end up in the same place as they did - "off
world" ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:59 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too

Hi John:

The potential of Cortana and Siri competing on the same turf makes me smile.

Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:50:21 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Jun  2 14:44:50 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 22:44:50 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_-_I_have_got_an_issue_with_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_insta?=
 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
Message-ID: <1433274290.31014447@f57.i.mail.ru>


Hi All --
Following TypeScript course I have tried to install gulp but I have got setup error messages after running simple command line 'npm install gulp -g' . To solve the issue I have just decided to reinstall nodejs completely, I have done this reinstall, I have watched that all nodejs setup files were deleted by MS Windows "Programs and Features" uninstall program functionality, then I have installed nodejs back using the most recent setup I have got downloaded from nodejs.org.
But after running with a fresh nodejs setup a command line
npm install gulp -g
I have got the setup errors again - the text of errors are in the P.S. of this message. It looks like errors are caused by some out-of-date nodejs modules I have previously installed on my system in
C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules
directory. The contents of this directory are the following:
03/30/2014 11:21 AM <DIR> cloudnode-cli
03/06/2014 11:10 PM <DIR> express
01/16/2014 08:04 PM <DIR> grunt-cli
06/02/2015 08:55 PM <DIR> gulp
06/02/2015 08:44 PM <DIR> jasmine-core
06/02/2015 08:43 PM <DIR> karma
06/02/2015 08:45 PM <DIR> karma-jasmine
06/11/2013 10:39 PM <DIR> karma-ng-scenario
06/11/2013 10:42 PM <DIR> karma-requirejs
06/11/2013 10:36 PM <DIR> phantomjs
"bad karma" is here AFAIS. I'd like to make it "good" preserving the set of existing modules. 
What is the quickest way to do that?
What are general nodejs community recommendations to repair nodejs modules' broken dependencies?
Thank you.
-- Shamil
P.S.
C:\Program Files (x86)\TOOLS\Far2>npm install gulp -g
C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\gulp -> C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp\bin\gulp.js
npm WARN unmet dependency C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\express\node_modules\connect\node_modules\multiparty\node_modules\stream-counter requires readable-stream@'~1.1.8' but will load
npm WARN unmet dependency C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\express\node_modules\connect\node_modules\multiparty\node_modules\readable-stream,
npm WARN unmet dependency which is version 1.1.11-1
npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.3.9600
npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "gulp" "-g"
npm ERR! node v0.12.4
npm ERR! npm v2.10.1
npm ERR! code EPEERINVALID
npm ERR! peerinvalid The package karma does not satisfy its siblings' peerDependencies requirements!
npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer karma-jasmine at 0.3.5 wants karma@>=0.9
npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer karma-ng-scenario at 0.0.1 wants karma@~0.9
npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer karma-requirejs at 0.0.1 wants karma@~0.9
npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.3.9600
npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "gulp" "-g"
npm ERR! node v0.12.4
npm ERR! npm v2.10.1
npm ERR! Uncaught, unspecified "error" event.
npm ERR!
npm ERR! If you need help, you may report this error at:
npm ERR! <https://github.com/npm/npm/issues>
npm ERR! Please include the following file with any support request:
npm ERR! C:\Program Files (x86)\TOOLS\Far2\npm-debug.log
?

-- 
???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 15:20:41 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:20:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist
In-Reply-To: <035f01d09d6b$c440b1a0$4cc214e0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1644724941.87762679.1433276441136.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

And the article ends with an advertisement to provide training for ignorant employees...that's rich...ha ha ha. ;-)

Here is a new exploit that has got to top them all...fortunately, its a Mac problem (so who really cares. ;-)).

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/new-remote-exploit-leaves-most-macs-vulnerable-to-permanent-backdooring

This exploit can be installed remotely, the computer can then be formatted from scratch and the malware can not be removed...and there is nothing out there that can. What has to be done is the BIOS has to be re-flashed with a "fixed" BIOS (Does Apple even have one yet?)... Imagine an average user being able to do that. Apple could and should make a recall that could dwarf the current car recalls.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 12:38:56 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist

If you read to the end you'll get a chuckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:55 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist

Hi John:

Seeing that the malware, could safely jump pass system's initial
interrogation, install its self and hide undetected, on people's computers
with none of the security discovering it actually says more than the
subsequent chaos created.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Off Topic" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>, "Discussion of Hardware and
Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:36:53 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] more ransomware - a new twist

There is a concerning new "sleeper" ransomware twist.

http://blog.knowbe4.com/is-your-network-infected-with-sleeper-ransomware

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 15:23:53 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:23:53 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too
In-Reply-To: <036001d09d6b$c4637be0$4d2a73a0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1873603369.87766266.1433276633369.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

Are we ready for Cortana? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzV6mXIOVl4

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 12:38:56 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too

This will be my first interaction with Cortana. I've used siri and google
voice. Hopefully Cortana doesn't end up in the same place as they did - "off
world" ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:59 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too

Hi John:

The potential of Cortana and Siri competing on the same turf makes me smile.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:50:21 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cortana headed for iOS and Android too

http://www.eweek.com/mobile/slideshows/what-ios-android-device-users-can-exp
ect-from-cortana.html

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Jun  2 16:10:39 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:10:39 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_-_I_have_got_an_issue_with_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_insta?=
 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1433274290.31014447@f57.i.mail.ru>
References: <1433274290.31014447@f57.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1433279439.879696604@f253.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

Never mind.
I have solved the subject issue by manual removing/reinstalling of all the nodejs modules via command line.
Now I'm getting my feet wet with Sublime, ignoring VS, and taking hardcore route with TypeScript learning... :)

-- Shamil


Tuesday, June  2, 2015 10:44 PM +03:00 from Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>:
>
>Hi All --
>Following TypeScript course I have tried to install gulp but I have got setup error messages after running simple command line 'npm install gulp -g' . To solve the issue I have just decided to reinstall nodejs completely, I have done this reinstall, I have watched that all nodejs setup files were deleted by MS Windows "Programs and Features" uninstall program functionality, then I have installed nodejs back using the most recent setup I have got downloaded from nodejs.org.
>But after running with a fresh nodejs setup a command line
>npm install gulp -g
>I have got the setup errors again - the text of errors are in the P.S. of this message. It looks like errors are caused by some out-of-date nodejs modules I have previously installed on my system in
>C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules
>directory. The contents of this directory are the following:
>03/30/2014 11:21 AM <DIR> cloudnode-cli
>03/06/2014 11:10 PM <DIR> express
>01/16/2014 08:04 PM <DIR> grunt-cli
>06/02/2015 08:55 PM <DIR> gulp
>06/02/2015 08:44 PM <DIR> jasmine-core
>06/02/2015 08:43 PM <DIR> karma
>06/02/2015 08:45 PM <DIR> karma-jasmine
>06/11/2013 10:39 PM <DIR> karma-ng-scenario
>06/11/2013 10:42 PM <DIR> karma-requirejs
>06/11/2013 10:36 PM <DIR> phantomjs
>"bad karma" is here AFAIS. I'd like to make it "good" preserving the set of existing modules. 
>What is the quickest way to do that?
>What are general nodejs community recommendations to repair nodejs modules' broken dependencies?
>Thank you.
>-- Shamil
>P.S.
>C:\Program Files (x86)\TOOLS\Far2>npm install gulp -g
>C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\gulp -> C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp\bin\gulp.js
>npm WARN unmet dependency C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\express\node_modules\connect\node_modules\multiparty\node_modules\stream-counter requires readable-stream@'~1.1.8' but will load
>npm WARN unmet dependency C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\express\node_modules\connect\node_modules\multiparty\node_modules\readable-stream,
>npm WARN unmet dependency which is version 1.1.11-1
>npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.3.9600
>npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "gulp" "-g"
>npm ERR! node v0.12.4
>npm ERR! npm v2.10.1
>npm ERR! code EPEERINVALID
>npm ERR! peerinvalid The package karma does not satisfy its siblings' peerDependencies requirements!
>npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer  karma-jasmine at 0.3.5 wants karma@>=0.9
>npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer  karma-ng-scenario at 0.0.1 wants karma@~0.9
>npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer  karma-requirejs at 0.0.1 wants karma@~0.9
>npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.3.9600
>npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "gulp" "-g"
>npm ERR! node v0.12.4
>npm ERR! npm v2.10.1
>npm ERR! Uncaught, unspecified "error" event.
>npm ERR!
>npm ERR! If you need help, you may report this error at:
>npm ERR! < https://github.com/npm/npm/issues >
>npm ERR! Please include the following file with any support request:
>npm ERR! C:\Program Files (x86)\TOOLS\Far2\npm-debug.log
>?
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 16:14:32 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:14:32 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
 but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
 installing gulp...
In-Reply-To: <1433274290.31014447@f57.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <780385267.87803461.1433279672601.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

Sounds like a developer screw up...unfortunately not that uncommon. A patch should be out soon. ;-)

When it comes to doing website development, I am lazy. I can see someone spending an exorbitant amount of time on the BE but the FE.... To cut corners and give me easy access to all presentation libraries for fancy front ends, I prefer a good framework where all the necessary features are already linked or can be...more fonts, fancy screen transitions, graphic managers, AJAX libraries, JSON libraries, responsive/adaptive design css (for multi-screen sizes), gesture library and so on...then there are extensive deployment libraries. It is also completely modifiable as new and better features come along. A framework or scaffolding tool that I have been working on Yeoman (http://yeoman.io).

I have just started to use it with the visual studio code editor and am totally impressed...Yeoman is massive, has years of standardisation, best practices, best methods, best products built-in and it will likely take years to master. A lot of the best developer shops around use this product extensively (Microsoft or otherwise...it is totally generic); so if they are recommending it, that's good enough for me.

Jim         

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 12:44:50 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...


Hi All --
Following TypeScript course I have tried to install gulp but I have got setup error messages after running simple command line 'npm install gulp -g' . To solve the issue I have just decided to reinstall nodejs completely, I have done this reinstall, I have watched that all nodejs setup files were deleted by MS Windows "Programs and Features" uninstall program functionality, then I have installed nodejs back using the most recent setup I have got downloaded from nodejs.org.
But after running with a fresh nodejs setup a command line
npm install gulp -g
I have got the setup errors again - the text of errors are in the P.S. of this message. It looks like errors are caused by some out-of-date nodejs modules I have previously installed on my system in
C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules
directory. The contents of this directory are the following:
03/30/2014 11:21 AM <DIR> cloudnode-cli
03/06/2014 11:10 PM <DIR> express
01/16/2014 08:04 PM <DIR> grunt-cli
06/02/2015 08:55 PM <DIR> gulp
06/02/2015 08:44 PM <DIR> jasmine-core
06/02/2015 08:43 PM <DIR> karma
06/02/2015 08:45 PM <DIR> karma-jasmine
06/11/2013 10:39 PM <DIR> karma-ng-scenario
06/11/2013 10:42 PM <DIR> karma-requirejs
06/11/2013 10:36 PM <DIR> phantomjs
"bad karma" is here AFAIS. I'd like to make it "good" preserving the set of existing modules. 
What is the quickest way to do that?
What are general nodejs community recommendations to repair nodejs modules' broken dependencies?
Thank you.
-- Shamil
P.S.
C:\Program Files (x86)\TOOLS\Far2>npm install gulp -g
C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\gulp -> C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp\bin\gulp.js
npm WARN unmet dependency C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\express\node_modules\connect\node_modules\multiparty\node_modules\stream-counter requires readable-stream@'~1.1.8' but will load
npm WARN unmet dependency C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\express\node_modules\connect\node_modules\multiparty\node_modules\readable-stream,
npm WARN unmet dependency which is version 1.1.11-1
npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.3.9600
npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "gulp" "-g"
npm ERR! node v0.12.4
npm ERR! npm v2.10.1
npm ERR! code EPEERINVALID
npm ERR! peerinvalid The package karma does not satisfy its siblings' peerDependencies requirements!
npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer karma-jasmine at 0.3.5 wants karma@>=0.9
npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer karma-ng-scenario at 0.0.1 wants karma@~0.9
npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer karma-requirejs at 0.0.1 wants karma@~0.9
npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.3.9600
npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "gulp" "-g"
npm ERR! node v0.12.4
npm ERR! npm v2.10.1
npm ERR! Uncaught, unspecified "error" event.
npm ERR!
npm ERR! If you need help, you may report this error at:
npm ERR! <https://github.com/npm/npm/issues>
npm ERR! Please include the following file with any support request:
npm ERR! C:\Program Files (x86)\TOOLS\Far2\npm-debug.log
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 16:17:27 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:17:27 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
 but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
 installing gulp...
In-Reply-To: <1433279439.879696604@f253.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1193125099.87805734.1433279847856.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

Why does that not surprise me? ;-) Good work.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...

 Hi All --

Never mind.
I have solved the subject issue by manual removing/reinstalling of all the nodejs modules via command line.
Now I'm getting my feet wet with Sublime, ignoring VS, and taking hardcore route with TypeScript learning... :)

-- Shamil


Tuesday, June  2, 2015 10:44 PM +03:00 from Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>:
>
>Hi All --
>Following TypeScript course I have tried to install gulp but I have got setup error messages after running simple command line 'npm install gulp -g' . To solve the issue I have just decided to reinstall nodejs completely, I have done this reinstall, I have watched that all nodejs setup files were deleted by MS Windows "Programs and Features" uninstall program functionality, then I have installed nodejs back using the most recent setup I have got downloaded from nodejs.org.
>But after running with a fresh nodejs setup a command line
>npm install gulp -g
>I have got the setup errors again - the text of errors are in the P.S. of this message. It looks like errors are caused by some out-of-date nodejs modules I have previously installed on my system in
>C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules
>directory. The contents of this directory are the following:
>03/30/2014 11:21 AM <DIR> cloudnode-cli
>03/06/2014 11:10 PM <DIR> express
>01/16/2014 08:04 PM <DIR> grunt-cli
>06/02/2015 08:55 PM <DIR> gulp
>06/02/2015 08:44 PM <DIR> jasmine-core
>06/02/2015 08:43 PM <DIR> karma
>06/02/2015 08:45 PM <DIR> karma-jasmine
>06/11/2013 10:39 PM <DIR> karma-ng-scenario
>06/11/2013 10:42 PM <DIR> karma-requirejs
>06/11/2013 10:36 PM <DIR> phantomjs
>"bad karma" is here AFAIS. I'd like to make it "good" preserving the set of existing modules. 
>What is the quickest way to do that?
>What are general nodejs community recommendations to repair nodejs modules' broken dependencies?
>Thank you.
>-- Shamil
>P.S.
>C:\Program Files (x86)\TOOLS\Far2>npm install gulp -g
>C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\gulp -> C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp\bin\gulp.js
>npm WARN unmet dependency C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\express\node_modules\connect\node_modules\multiparty\node_modules\stream-counter requires readable-stream@'~1.1.8' but will load
>npm WARN unmet dependency C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\express\node_modules\connect\node_modules\multiparty\node_modules\readable-stream,
>npm WARN unmet dependency which is version 1.1.11-1
>npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.3.9600
>npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "gulp" "-g"
>npm ERR! node v0.12.4
>npm ERR! npm v2.10.1
>npm ERR! code EPEERINVALID
>npm ERR! peerinvalid The package karma does not satisfy its siblings' peerDependencies requirements!
>npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer  karma-jasmine at 0.3.5 wants karma@>=0.9
>npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer  karma-ng-scenario at 0.0.1 wants karma@~0.9
>npm ERR! peerinvalid Peer  karma-requirejs at 0.0.1 wants karma@~0.9
>npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.3.9600
>npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "gulp" "-g"
>npm ERR! node v0.12.4
>npm ERR! npm v2.10.1
>npm ERR! Uncaught, unspecified "error" event.
>npm ERR!
>npm ERR! If you need help, you may report this error at:
>npm ERR! < https://github.com/npm/npm/issues >
>npm ERR! Please include the following file with any support request:
>npm ERR! C:\Program Files (x86)\TOOLS\Far2\npm-debug.log
>?
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Jun  2 17:49:34 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:49:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp
Message-ID: <78292D2E23144DEE9441A182C3990AB5@HAL9007>

So I've got this desktop - it's my secondary box - not my primary work box.
It's also my music box.  If I want to listen to music while I'm working, or
practice a tune, I use this one.
 
But I also drag and drop a copy of EVERYTHING I work on onto this box.  An
old habit of being a lone ranger developer all these years.  If box #1 craps
out, I can at least keep the business going.
 
But box #2 has been slowing down lately - thrashing a bit.  I have three
other desktops but I think this one is the best of the bunch.  The others
are going to be got rid of somehow.
 
Anyway, I digress.  What I'd like to do is speed this bad boy up.  It's an
eMachines T5082 running W7 SP1.  It's got a 3GHz P4 with 2GB and that's the
limit, I think. Small HD - 140GB but more than I need. 
 
I suppose I could back up everything essential, wipe the HD, and reinstall
W7.  Then download all the programs I really need.  
 
But is there an effective alternative to this nuclear option?
 
I've seen a lot of snappy ads promising to speed up my comp but they look
like snake oil for the most part and I don't trust them any farther than I
can throw my whole desk.
 
Any advice welcome.
 
MTIA
 
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 
www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 
Skype: rocky.smolin
 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 18:28:08 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:28:08 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The new Windows 10
In-Reply-To: <000701d09c9a$0f5304e0$2df90ea0$@de>
Message-ID: <1701844915.87906120.1433287688074.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

So Windows 10 is scheduled to go on sale soon, this summer(?). If you are not upgrading from Windows 7 or 8 the cost for a home edition will be $119 and $199 respectively. The plan is to sell or upgrade a billion copies. Ambitious for sure....if successful it will be another version that will probably stay around for another 10 to 15 years. ;-)

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-windows-10-home-costs-119-pro-costs-199

Jim  

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Jun  2 19:57:37 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:57:37 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_-_I_have_got_an_issue_with_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_insta?=
 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1193125099.87805734.1433279847856.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1433279439.879696604@f253.i.mail.ru>
	<1193125099.87805734.1433279847856.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Thank you.

I have also got a couple of advanced TypeScript samples:

1st: ?TypeScript Sample: Todo MVC
https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScriptSamples/tree/master/todomvc

2nd: ? Modularization in TypeScript
https://keyholesoftware.com/2013/01/14/modularization-in-typescript/

The first one after quite a few edits compiles (via gulp) ?but gets error TS2403 (see below)

[02:56:32] Starting 'ts-lint'...
[02:56:32] Starting 'compile-ts'...
[02:56:32] Starting 'gen-ts-refs'...
[02:56:32] gulp-inject 1 files into typescriptApp.d.ts.
[02:56:32] Finished 'ts-lint' after 153 ms
[02:56:32] Finished 'gen-ts-refs' after 193 ms tools\typings\jquery\jquery.d.ts(3935,13):
???? error TS2403: Subsequent variable declarations must have the same type.?
???? Variable '$' must be of type '{ (el: HTMLElement): JQuery; (selector: string): JQuery; (readyCallback: () => void): JQuery;
}', but here has type 'JQueryStatic'.
[02:56:33] TypeScript: 1 semantic error
[02:56:33] TypeScript: emit succeeded (with errors)
[02:56:33] Finished 'compile-ts' after 945 ms
I cannot find how to fix this compile error. Anyway, the compiled into/emitted js code runs well.

And the 2nd project doesn't compile

....\Typescript\demo2>tsc --module AMD .\public\script\app.ts
....\Typescript\demo2\public\script\app.ts(5,33) : error TS1005: ';' expected.

It's unclear for me why the following code line

import UnderscoreModule = module("libs/underscore" );
causes compile error in position 33 ?
Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, June  2, 2015 3:17 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Why does that not surprise me? ;-) Good work.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:10:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Never mind.
>I have solved the subject issue by manual removing/reinstalling of all the nodejs modules via command line.
>Now I'm getting my feet wet with Sublime, ignoring VS, and taking hardcore route with TypeScript learning... :)
>
>-- Shamil
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  2 20:24:26 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 19:24:26 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
 but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
 installing gulp...
In-Reply-To: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1870913709.87972062.1433294666245.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

You are having so many problems...what system are you installing and compiling these application on, if you don't mind me asking?

Is there any inherent issues with using pure JavaScript libraries (JQuery and NodeJS), for example, with TypeScript code?

Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 5:57:37 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...

 Hi Jim --

Thank you.

I have also got a couple of advanced TypeScript samples:

1st: ?TypeScript Sample: Todo MVC
https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScriptSamples/tree/master/todomvc

2nd: ? Modularization in TypeScript
https://keyholesoftware.com/2013/01/14/modularization-in-typescript/

The first one after quite a few edits compiles (via gulp) ?but gets error TS2403 (see below)

[02:56:32] Starting 'ts-lint'...
[02:56:32] Starting 'compile-ts'...
[02:56:32] Starting 'gen-ts-refs'...
[02:56:32] gulp-inject 1 files into typescriptApp.d.ts.
[02:56:32] Finished 'ts-lint' after 153 ms
[02:56:32] Finished 'gen-ts-refs' after 193 ms tools\typings\jquery\jquery.d.ts(3935,13):
???? error TS2403: Subsequent variable declarations must have the same type.?
???? Variable '$' must be of type '{ (el: HTMLElement): JQuery; (selector: string): JQuery; (readyCallback: () => void): JQuery;
}', but here has type 'JQueryStatic'.
[02:56:33] TypeScript: 1 semantic error
[02:56:33] TypeScript: emit succeeded (with errors)
[02:56:33] Finished 'compile-ts' after 945 ms
I cannot find how to fix this compile error. Anyway, the compiled into/emitted js code runs well.

And the 2nd project doesn't compile

....\Typescript\demo2>tsc --module AMD .\public\script\app.ts
....\Typescript\demo2\public\script\app.ts(5,33) : error TS1005: ';' expected.

It's unclear for me why the following code line

import UnderscoreModule = module("libs/underscore" );
causes compile error in position 33 ?
Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, June  2, 2015 3:17 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Why does that not surprise me? ;-) Good work.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:10:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Never mind.
>I have solved the subject issue by manual removing/reinstalling of all the nodejs modules via command line.
>Now I'm getting my feet wet with Sublime, ignoring VS, and taking hardcore route with TypeScript learning... :)
>
>-- Shamil
>
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Wed Jun  3 03:02:59 2015
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:02:59 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp
In-Reply-To: <78292D2E23144DEE9441A182C3990AB5@HAL9007>
References: <78292D2E23144DEE9441A182C3990AB5@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <11523feaaed94afe84c3dd9807d5d299@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Hi Rocky

I would run MalwareBytes, CCleaner, and give it a thorough Defragging, and see if that made any difference to it...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:50 PM
To: List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

So I've got this desktop - it's my secondary box - not my primary work box.
It's also my music box.  If I want to listen to music while I'm working, or practice a tune, I use this one.

But I also drag and drop a copy of EVERYTHING I work on onto this box.  An old habit of being a lone ranger developer all these years.  If box #1 craps out, I can at least keep the business going.

But box #2 has been slowing down lately - thrashing a bit.  I have three other desktops but I think this one is the best of the bunch.  The others are going to be got rid of somehow.

Anyway, I digress.  What I'd like to do is speed this bad boy up.  It's an eMachines T5082 running W7 SP1.  It's got a 3GHz P4 with 2GB and that's the limit, I think. Small HD - 140GB but more than I need.

I suppose I could back up everything essential, wipe the HD, and reinstall W7.  Then download all the programs I really need.

But is there an effective alternative to this nuclear option?

I've seen a lot of snappy ads promising to speed up my comp but they look like snake oil for the most part and I don't trust them any farther than I can throw my whole desk.

Any advice welcome.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
Skype: rocky.smolin

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Jun  3 03:28:23 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 11:28:23 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_-_I_have_got_an_issue_with_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_insta?=
 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1870913709.87972062.1433294666245.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>
	<1870913709.87972062.1433294666245.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1433320103.85911099@f283.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

The error messages I've got are coming (AFAIU) from

gulp-typescript - "A typescript compiler for gulp with incremental compilation support."
https://www.npmjs.com/package/gulp-typescript
installed on my?MS Windows 8.1 globally as an npm module under:

C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp-typescript\node_modules\typescript\bin\tsc
C:\Users\(user name)\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp-typescript\node_modules\typescript\bin\tsc.js

And I'musing this gulp-typescript (again AFAIU - I have just started to work with TypeScript yesterday) to translate MS TypeScript compiler ready(?) sources:

1st: ?TypeScript Sample: Todo MVC
https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScriptSamples/tree/master/todomvc

2nd: ? Modularization in TypeScript
https://keyholesoftware.com/2013/01/14/modularization-in-typescript/

Obviously(?) there should be incompatibility issues, which I have solved/I have tried to solve by editing the sources.
As far as I see I have solved most of them. A couple still exist but I hope to get them solved sooner or later.

I have also MS TypeScript v.1.0 compiler located under

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\TypeScript\1.0\tsc.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\TypeScript\1.0\tsc.js
When I'm using it with the 1st (manually edited/adapted) sample's .ts sources, it compiles well.
When I'm using it with the 2nd (manually edited/adapted)?sample's sources I'm getting the same compile-time error as with gulp-typescript

?error TS1005: ';' expected.

I wanted to avoid dependence of the latest TypeScript compiler version bundled with latest Visual Studio version, so I have started to use gulp-typescript. AFAIU and AFAUCS this approach creates some issues. The best for me probably (as I'm working ?on MS Windows) should be to "merge" Sublime + gulp TypeScript development support and (the latest?) MS TypeScript compiler. There are several under:

"TypeScript 1.4 for Visual Studio 2013"?
https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/2d42d8dc-e085-45eb-a30b-3f7d50d55304
And the last one will not be installed to run by default via MS Windows PATH search:

"tsc.exe should point to latest tsc after installing out of band installers #2068"
https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/issues/2068 Outside of gulp/within VS 2012, I'm currently using tsc.exe v.1.0, which (AFAICG) I have got for my VS 2012 by installing

"TypeScript 1.0 Tools for Visual Studio 2012"?
https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/fa041d2d-5d77-494b-b0ba-8b4550792b4d

AFAIS there is a new TypeScript development support version for VS2012, but even newer one for VS 2013 and the best (?) beta one v.1.5 for VS2015.

As it often happens with Microsoft they seems to be creating a "versions hell" based on "good intentions" of promoting the latest features of TypeScript and in the same time pushing forward VS upgrades.

...

But as I have noted previously I wanted to have my TypeScript learning/development independent from Visual Studio (versions) and target OS: this approach promise to force me to go through a few "hell circles" before I'll get my (gulp-)TypeScript development environment up & running smoothly. It may even happen I'll "surrender", I''l purchase VS2015/install VS 2015 community edition and I'll abandon gulp-typescript...

Thank you.

-- Shamil



Tuesday, June  2, 2015 7:24 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>You are having so many problems...what system are you installing and compiling these application on, if you don't mind me asking?
>
>Is there any inherent issues with using pure JavaScript libraries (JQuery and NodeJS), for example, with TypeScript code?
>
>Jim
<<< skipped>>>
>

From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Wed Jun  3 04:01:52 2015
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 02:01:52 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
	but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
	installing gulp...
In-Reply-To: <1433320103.85911099@f283.i.mail.ru>
References: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>
	<1870913709.87972062.1433294666245.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<1433320103.85911099@f283.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <0E357EB9-E929-4D06-99FB-C52A58E21B86@phulse.com>

Use vagrant and install the operating system that works best with the stack you are testing... Which is Linux. Most of your headaches should go away and you will have a nice clean environment to work from.

- Hans


> On Jun 3, 2015, at 1:28 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim --
> 
> The error messages I've got are coming (AFAIU) from
> 
> gulp-typescript - "A typescript compiler for gulp with incremental compilation support."
> https://www.npmjs.com/package/gulp-typescript
> installed on my MS Windows 8.1 globally as an npm module under:
> 
> C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp-typescript\node_modules\typescript\bin\tsc
> C:\Users\(user name)\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp-typescript\node_modules\typescript\bin\tsc.js
> 
> And I'musing this gulp-typescript (again AFAIU - I have just started to work with TypeScript yesterday) to translate MS TypeScript compiler ready(?) sources:
> 
> 1st:  TypeScript Sample: Todo MVC
> https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScriptSamples/tree/master/todomvc
> 
> 2nd:   Modularization in TypeScript
> https://keyholesoftware.com/2013/01/14/modularization-in-typescript/
> 
> Obviously(?) there should be incompatibility issues, which I have solved/I have tried to solve by editing the sources.
> As far as I see I have solved most of them. A couple still exist but I hope to get them solved sooner or later.
> 
> I have also MS TypeScript v.1.0 compiler located under
> 
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\TypeScript\1.0\tsc.exe
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\TypeScript\1.0\tsc.js
> When I'm using it with the 1st (manually edited/adapted) sample's .ts sources, it compiles well.
> When I'm using it with the 2nd (manually edited/adapted) sample's sources I'm getting the same compile-time error as with gulp-typescript
> 
>  error TS1005: ';' expected.
> 
> I wanted to avoid dependence of the latest TypeScript compiler version bundled with latest Visual Studio version, so I have started to use gulp-typescript. AFAIU and AFAUCS this approach creates some issues. The best for me probably (as I'm working  on MS Windows) should be to "merge" Sublime + gulp TypeScript development support and (the latest?) MS TypeScript compiler. There are several under:
> 
> "TypeScript 1.4 for Visual Studio 2013" 
> https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/2d42d8dc-e085-45eb-a30b-3f7d50d55304
> And the last one will not be installed to run by default via MS Windows PATH search:
> 
> "tsc.exe should point to latest tsc after installing out of band installers #2068"
> https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/issues/2068 Outside of gulp/within VS 2012, I'm currently using tsc.exe v.1.0, which (AFAICG) I have got for my VS 2012 by installing
> 
> "TypeScript 1.0 Tools for Visual Studio 2012" 
> https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/fa041d2d-5d77-494b-b0ba-8b4550792b4d
> 
> AFAIS there is a new TypeScript development support version for VS2012, but even newer one for VS 2013 and the best (?) beta one v.1.5 for VS2015.
> 
> As it often happens with Microsoft they seems to be creating a "versions hell" based on "good intentions" of promoting the latest features of TypeScript and in the same time pushing forward VS upgrades.
> 
> ...
> 
> But as I have noted previously I wanted to have my TypeScript learning/development independent from Visual Studio (versions) and target OS: this approach promise to force me to go through a few "hell circles" before I'll get my (gulp-)TypeScript development environment up & running smoothly. It may even happen I'll "surrender", I''l purchase VS2015/install VS 2015 community edition and I'll abandon gulp-typescript...
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
> 
> 
> Tuesday, June  2, 2015 7:24 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>> Hi Shamil:
>> 
>> You are having so many problems...what system are you installing and compiling these application on, if you don't mind me asking?
>> 
>> Is there any inherent issues with using pure JavaScript libraries (JQuery and NodeJS), for example, with TypeScript code?
>> 
>> Jim
> <<< skipped>>>
>> 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun  3 04:14:39 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 09:14:39 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
 but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
 installing gulp...
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB09130476F65FE533894C7625CAB40@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

As I recall, the course actually mentions how to install gulp. I refrained from this as I don't like the name "gulp"...  and VS2013 works so well with TypeScript. 

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 3. juni 2015 10:28
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...

 Hi Jim --

The error messages I've got .. 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Jun  3 05:01:47 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:01:47 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_-_I_have_got_an_issue_with_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_insta?=
 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <0E357EB9-E929-4D06-99FB-C52A58E21B86@phulse.com>
References: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>
	<1433320103.85911099@f283.i.mail.ru>
	<0E357EB9-E929-4D06-99FB-C52A58E21B86@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <1433325707.677751711@f429.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Hans --

Yes, I know, Linux is the best :)
I do plan to purchase and to start working with Mac together with MS Windows, actually if I've had enough finances I'd have had purchased already all the iOS/Mac hardware/software stack including iWatch :)
But currently I'm bound to my MS Windows/.NET Framework development to get earned resources for a good Mac notebook with Parallels running MS Windows....

If you'll have a few minutes could you please check if?

https://github.com/brettjonesdev/typescript-modularization-demo

will compile well in your environment? - I'm still getting compile-time error:

error TS1005: ';' expected.

even after using the latest MS TypeScript compiler/JS emitter from  https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript ?which I have got git-ed from this site on my local system and I have built here locally using jake following their instructions.

AFAIU the following code line

import UnderscoreModule = module("libs/underscore");

from app.ts file of this small demo is causing the compile-time error message.
TypeScript compiler emits the following two js lines from the above source ts code line:

var UnderscoreModule = module;
("libs/underscore");

They look weird for me. The sample is very small and the issue should be easy to solve for experienced "TypeScript-er" - and I'm only using TypeScript for a few hours...

Thank you.

-- Shamil



Wednesday, June  3, 2015 2:01 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>Use vagrant and install the operating system that works best with the stack you are testing... Which is Linux. Most of your headaches should go away and you will have a nice clean environment to work from.
>
>- Hans
<<< skipped >>>
>

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Jun  3 05:18:46 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:18:46 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_-_I_have_got_an_issue_with_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_insta?=
 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB09130476F65FE533894C7625CAB40@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB09130476F65FE533894C7625CAB40@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1433326726.983746477@f403.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, the TypeScript online course instructor Dan Wahlin (who uses Mac AFAIS from the course videos)?"hooked" me on gulp: I don't have VS2013 and I don't plan to install it, waiting for VS2015 release, so I have taken Sublime/Gulp as my development test-bed for this TypeScript course.

As for 'gulp' name/word - the first association for me is with "a gulp of cold water/beer..." :) , the second - "a gulp of freedom" - both are positive for me :)

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, June  3, 2015 9:14 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>As I recall, the course actually mentions how to install gulp. I refrained from this as I don't like the name "gulp"...  and VS2013 works so well with TypeScript. 
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 3. juni 2015 10:28
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>The error messages I've got .. 
>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Jun  3 05:37:14 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:37:14 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Vagrant_and/or_quay=2Eio_Was=3A_Re=5B2=5D=3A?=
 =?utf-8?q?__Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <0E357EB9-E929-4D06-99FB-C52A58E21B86@phulse.com>
References: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>
	<1433320103.85911099@f283.i.mail.ru>
	<0E357EB9-E929-4D06-99FB-C52A58E21B86@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <1433327834.666882192@f47.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Hans --

Is it possible to list briefly what is the difference/similarity (if any) of Vagrant's Boxes (https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/boxes.html) and quai.io's ?"Repeatable and Testable Deployments" ( http://docs.quay.io/solution/repeatable-deployments.html ) and "Zero Downtime Deployments" ( http://docs.quay.io/solution/zero-downtime-deployments.html ) ? I have very little knowledge of both but quai.io seems to me more promising, easier to handle and to deploy as "environments to deploy" are lighter...

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wednesday, June  3, 2015 2:01 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>Use vagrant and install the operating system that works best with the stack you are testing... Which is Linux. Most of your headaches should go away and you will have a nice clean environment to work from.
>
>- Hans
>
>

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun  3 06:19:12 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 11:19:12 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
 but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
 installing gulp...
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB0913DC8F51F8202E7805F3C4CAB40@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

But VS2015 CTP is at release 6, so it is pretty stable:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2015/02/23/visual-studio-2015-ctp-6-and-team-foundation-server-2015-ctp-released.aspx

It is true about gulp in English, but here it sounds more related to our word gylp which means regurgitation - a kind of liquid vomit. Bon appetite!
Seriously, I felt not ready to spend an unpredictable amount of time on gulp as I do have VS2013 installed. 

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 3. juni 2015 12:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, the TypeScript online course instructor Dan Wahlin (who uses Mac AFAIS from the course videos)?"hooked" me on gulp: I don't have VS2013 and I don't plan to install it, waiting for VS2015 release, so I have taken Sublime/Gulp as my development test-bed for this TypeScript course.

As for 'gulp' name/word - the first association for me is with "a gulp of cold water/beer..." :) , the second - "a gulp of freedom" - both are positive for me :)

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, June  3, 2015 9:14 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>As I recall, the course actually mentions how to install gulp. I refrained from this as I don't like the name "gulp"...  and VS2013 works so well with TypeScript. 
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 3. juni 2015 10:28
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>The error messages I've got .. 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Jun  3 06:47:20 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 14:47:20 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_-_I_have_got_an_issue_with_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_insta?=
 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB0913DC8F51F8202E7805F3C4CAB40@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB0913DC8F51F8202E7805F3C4CAB40@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1433332040.477341626@f322.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

I'd better wait for VS2015 release. As for Sublime/gulp setup - it takes a few minutes, and their usage feels natural for me - the issues I have encountered were with advanced TypeScript samples mainly because of my complete novice status with all that stuff. (And simple samples from TypeScript course do compile well.) 

As I have finally found the following (advanced for me) sample? https://github.com/brettjonesdev/typescript-modularization-demo ?doesn't compile well even with the latest MS TypeScript compiler/JS emitter I have got built from the sources from? https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript ?.?If you have a few minutes and VS2015 RC installed could you please check will small? https://github.com/brettjonesdev/typescript-modularization-demo ?sample compile well on your system?

Also my yesterday's evening playing with Gulp and Sublime and node/npm has given me rather good understanding how this stuff is setup on MS Windows systems and how its components are communicating/interrelated: VS often hides all that details from their developers (I can be wrong - I haven't tried to "dive into VS environment deeps" since I have stopped VS add-ins development for one of my customers in 2007)...

-- Shamil


Wednesday, June  3, 2015 11:19 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>But VS2015 CTP is at release 6, so it is pretty stable:
>
>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2015/02/23/visual-studio-2015-ctp-6-and-team-foundation-server-2015-ctp-released.aspx
>
>It is true about gulp in English, but here it sounds more related to our word gylp which means regurgitation - a kind of liquid vomit. Bon appetite!
>Seriously, I felt not ready to spend an unpredictable amount of time on gulp as I do have VS2013 installed. 
>
>/gustav
>

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun  3 09:15:44 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:15:44 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
 but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
 installing gulp...
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB091326FEFF6240084AA0ED10CAB40@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

I get this error:

C:\Users\Gustav.CACTUS>tsc --module AMD C:\Test\ts\public\script\app.ts
C:\Test\ts\public\script\libs\underscore.d.ts(2,8): error TS1046: 'declare' modifier required for top level element.
C:\Test\ts\public\script\app.ts(4,33): error TS1005: ';' expected.

If I open the file in VS, this line is underlined red:

    import UnderscoreModule = module( "libs/underscore" );

with the error: Cannot find name 'module'.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 3. juni 2015 13:47
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...

 Hi Gustav --

I'd better wait for VS2015 release. As for Sublime/gulp setup - it takes a few minutes, and their usage feels natural for me - the issues I have encountered were with advanced TypeScript samples mainly because of my complete novice status with all that stuff. (And simple samples from TypeScript course do compile well.) 

As I have finally found the following (advanced for me) sample? https://github.com/brettjonesdev/typescript-modularization-demo ?doesn't compile well even with the latest MS TypeScript compiler/JS emitter I have got built from the sources from? https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript ?.?If you have a few minutes and VS2015 RC installed could you please check will small? https://github.com/brettjonesdev/typescript-modularization-demo ?sample compile well on your system?

Also my yesterday's evening playing with Gulp and Sublime and node/npm has given me rather good understanding how this stuff is setup on MS Windows systems and how its components are communicating/interrelated: VS often hides all that details from their developers (I can be wrong - I haven't tried to "dive into VS environment deeps" since I have stopped VS add-ins development for one of my customers in 2007)...

-- Shamil 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun  3 11:13:28 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:13:28 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
 but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
 installing gulp...
In-Reply-To: <1433320103.85911099@f283.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1578810909.88373351.1433348008319.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

You are as they say, "A glutton for punishment". A lot of the products that are internet based were first designed for and on the Linux environment and then ported to Windows. A number of these products run on a rather crude emulator, in isolation, in Windows and they just don't play nice after that.

IMHO, it all depends on where you will be running the programs you create with Truetype. I would suspect that your new applications will be running on the internet so it doesn't matter what OS you are using, as long as it works. AFAIC tell, all of the internet is gender neutral...(and built on Linux).

I am with Hans on this as he is definitely the expert when it comes to internet development.

Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 1:28:23 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...

 Hi Jim --

The error messages I've got are coming (AFAIU) from

gulp-typescript - "A typescript compiler for gulp with incremental compilation support."
https://www.npmjs.com/package/gulp-typescript
installed on my?MS Windows 8.1 globally as an npm module under:

C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp-typescript\node_modules\typescript\bin\tsc
C:\Users\(user name)\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\gulp-typescript\node_modules\typescript\bin\tsc.js

And I'musing this gulp-typescript (again AFAIU - I have just started to work with TypeScript yesterday) to translate MS TypeScript compiler ready(?) sources:

1st: ?TypeScript Sample: Todo MVC
https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScriptSamples/tree/master/todomvc

2nd: ? Modularization in TypeScript
https://keyholesoftware.com/2013/01/14/modularization-in-typescript/

Obviously(?) there should be incompatibility issues, which I have solved/I have tried to solve by editing the sources.
As far as I see I have solved most of them. A couple still exist but I hope to get them solved sooner or later.

I have also MS TypeScript v.1.0 compiler located under

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\TypeScript\1.0\tsc.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\TypeScript\1.0\tsc.js
When I'm using it with the 1st (manually edited/adapted) sample's .ts sources, it compiles well.
When I'm using it with the 2nd (manually edited/adapted)?sample's sources I'm getting the same compile-time error as with gulp-typescript

?error TS1005: ';' expected.

I wanted to avoid dependence of the latest TypeScript compiler version bundled with latest Visual Studio version, so I have started to use gulp-typescript. AFAIU and AFAUCS this approach creates some issues. The best for me probably (as I'm working ?on MS Windows) should be to "merge" Sublime + gulp TypeScript development support and (the latest?) MS TypeScript compiler. There are several under:

"TypeScript 1.4 for Visual Studio 2013"?
https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/2d42d8dc-e085-45eb-a30b-3f7d50d55304
And the last one will not be installed to run by default via MS Windows PATH search:

"tsc.exe should point to latest tsc after installing out of band installers #2068"
https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/issues/2068 Outside of gulp/within VS 2012, I'm currently using tsc.exe v.1.0, which (AFAICG) I have got for my VS 2012 by installing

"TypeScript 1.0 Tools for Visual Studio 2012"?
https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/fa041d2d-5d77-494b-b0ba-8b4550792b4d

AFAIS there is a new TypeScript development support version for VS2012, but even newer one for VS 2013 and the best (?) beta one v.1.5 for VS2015.

As it often happens with Microsoft they seems to be creating a "versions hell" based on "good intentions" of promoting the latest features of TypeScript and in the same time pushing forward VS upgrades.

...

But as I have noted previously I wanted to have my TypeScript learning/development independent from Visual Studio (versions) and target OS: this approach promise to force me to go through a few "hell circles" before I'll get my (gulp-)TypeScript development environment up & running smoothly. It may even happen I'll "surrender", I''l purchase VS2015/install VS 2015 community edition and I'll abandon gulp-typescript...

Thank you.

-- Shamil



Tuesday, June  2, 2015 7:24 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>You are having so many problems...what system are you installing and compiling these application on, if you don't mind me asking?
>
>Is there any inherent issues with using pure JavaScript libraries (JQuery and NodeJS), for example, with TypeScript code?
>
>Jim
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Jun  3 12:07:36 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 20:07:36 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_-_I_have_got_an_issue_with_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_insta?=
 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
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 Thank you for your testing of the sample, Gustav,

And I'm getting just the second error message.

Puzzle.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, June  3, 2015 2:15 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>Hi Shamil
>
>I get this error:
>
>C:\Users\Gustav.CACTUS>tsc --module AMD C:\Test\ts\public\script\app.ts
>C:\Test\ts\public\script\libs\underscore.d.ts(2,8): error TS1046: 'declare' modifier required for top level element.
>C:\Test\ts\public\script\app.ts(4,33): error TS1005: ';' expected.
>
>If I open the file in VS, this line is underlined red:
>
>????import UnderscoreModule = module( "libs/underscore" );
>
>with the error: Cannot find name 'module'.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 3. juni 2015 13:47
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning, but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while installing gulp...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>I'd better wait for VS2015 release. As for Sublime/gulp setup - it takes a few minutes, and their usage feels natural for me - the issues I have encountered were with advanced TypeScript samples mainly because of my complete novice status with all that stuff. (And simple samples from TypeScript course do compile well.) 
>
>As I have finally found the following (advanced for me) sample?  https://github.com/brettjonesdev/typescript-modularization-demo ?doesn't compile well even with the latest MS TypeScript compiler/JS emitter I have got built from the sources from?  https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript ?.?If you have a few minutes and VS2015 RC installed could you please check will small?  https://github.com/brettjonesdev/typescript-modularization-demo ?sample compile well on your system?
>
>Also my yesterday's evening playing with Gulp and Sublime and node/npm has given me rather good understanding how this stuff is setup on MS Windows systems and how its components are communicating/interrelated: VS often hides all that details from their developers (I can be wrong - I haven't tried to "dive into VS environment deeps" since I have stopped VS add-ins development for one of my customers in 2007)...
>
>-- Shamil 
>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Jun  3 12:10:52 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 20:10:52 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Bad_karma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_onl?=
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 =?utf-8?q?lling_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
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	<1578810909.88373351.1433348008319.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1433351452.657924258@f237.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Yes, I know Linux is the best :)
Still no time here to learn it methodically.

-- Shamil


Wednesday, June  3, 2015 10:13 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>You are as they say, "A glutton for punishment". A lot of the products that are internet based were first designed for and on the Linux environment and then ported to Windows. A number of these products run on a rather crude emulator, in isolation, in Windows and they just don't play nice after that.
>
>IMHO, it all depends on where you will be running the programs you create with Truetype. I would suspect that your new applications will be running on the internet so it doesn't matter what OS you are using, as long as it works. AFAIC tell, all of the internet is gender neutral...(and built on Linux).
>
>I am with Hans on this as he is definitely the expert when it comes to internet development.
>
>Jim

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From james at fcidms.com  Wed Jun  3 13:39:13 2015
From: james at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 18:39:13 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated
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Our local commuter railroad has automated ticketing machines and I happened to see one reboot one day. It was running Windows NT. They do go out occasionally but most of the time they work reliably and most outages are caused by the central computer system, not the individual machines. Pretty impressive considering they are outside and exposed to weather and humans.

James

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Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:16 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated

Hi Peter:

There is hardly a business that isn't using XP. A bunch of us geeks were conversing about the state of the industry and all of us know dozens of businesses where XP sits behind the scenes, in all automation and POS systems...I really find it amazing. People that are working on desktops are using the newest Windows variations but in any type of appliance software there appears to be that XP/2000/NT hiding behind the scenes. I really wonder how many of these packages are out there running as there is no way to document them as they rarely appear on the web and are therefore being substantially under reported..

Jim 

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Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 2:37:23 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] reports of winxp death have been somewhat exaggerated

M$oft did their best to persuade us stubborn winxp users that refusal to upgrade will be punished soon by disaster.

When I saw winxp prof running on a Delta Airlines workstation in SFO yesterday, I felt a wee bit less afraid.

PB
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  4 10:58:51 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:58:51 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft will now have SSH built in to its powershell
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This is big. 

With SSH in the powershell this means that anyone from any OS will be able to connect via a common secure and universal protocol.

Jim

 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  4 11:01:18 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:01:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft will now have SSH built in to its
 powershell
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...And yet more: https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html

Jim

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Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:58:51 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft will now have SSH built in to its powershell

This is big. 

With SSH in the powershell this means that anyone from any OS will be able to connect via a common secure and universal protocol.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  4 11:34:18 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:34:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] iOS for free
In-Reply-To: <1760918685.89171807.1433433678070.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1550840376.89202935.1433435658312.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

It seems that Apple is giving away Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in a VirtualBox.

Here is the process to accomplish this:

https://blog.frd.mn/install-os-x-10-10-yosemite-in-virtualbox

It should be noted that it is "...for testing purposes only.". Also note that some of the command code is only available in either BSD or Linux but there may be equivalents within the new Powershell. Of course once the download is rendered into a ISO that can be installed in VirtualBox or maybe VMWare...

Jim  

From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Thu Jun  4 12:25:12 2015
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:25:12 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad karma - a kind of punning,
	but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
	installing gulp...
In-Reply-To: <1433325707.677751711@f429.i.mail.ru>
References: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>
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	<1433325707.677751711@f429.i.mail.ru>
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Shamil,

I'm not sure you understood my suggestion.

Vagrant is a tool that helps you create and maintain lightweight development environments. It creates Linux VirtualBox vms on your local machine (Windows, Mac, Linux whatever) with a local folder mounted to it, which means you can develop using Visual Studio or whatever. It makes no difference and doesn't force you to another environment.

This might make a lot more sense for you since node.js works a lot better in a Linux (and Mac) environment as 99% of node developers write and deploy code on Linux and Macs. You do not need to buy a new machine to get these benefits since it's all happening within a virtual machine.

As far as TypeScript is concerned, I don't have any experience with it, so I don't have any specific suggestions as to why it is unable to do something as simple as understand whether a semi-colon exists or not.

- Hans


> On Jun 3, 2015, at 3:01 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> Hi Hans --
> 
> Yes, I know, Linux is the best :)
> I do plan to purchase and to start working with Mac together with MS Windows, actually if I've had enough finances I'd have had purchased already all the iOS/Mac hardware/software stack including iWatch :)
> But currently I'm bound to my MS Windows/.NET Framework development to get earned resources for a good Mac notebook with Parallels running MS Windows....
> 
> If you'll have a few minutes could you please check if 
> 
> https://github.com/brettjonesdev/typescript-modularization-demo
> 
> will compile well in your environment? - I'm still getting compile-time error:
> 
> error TS1005: ';' expected.
> 
> even after using the latest MS TypeScript compiler/JS emitter from  https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript  which I have got git-ed from this site on my local system and I have built here locally using jake following their instructions.
> 
> AFAIU the following code line
> 
> import UnderscoreModule = module("libs/underscore");
> 
> from app.ts file of this small demo is causing the compile-time error message.
> TypeScript compiler emits the following two js lines from the above source ts code line:
> 
> var UnderscoreModule = module;
> ("libs/underscore");
> 
> They look weird for me. The sample is very small and the issue should be easy to solve for experienced "TypeScript-er" - and I'm only using TypeScript for a few hours...
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
> 
> 
> Wednesday, June  3, 2015 2:01 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>> Use vagrant and install the operating system that works best with the stack you are testing... Which is Linux. Most of your headaches should go away and you will have a nice clean environment to work from.
>> 
>> - Hans
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Jun  4 15:17:09 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 23:17:09 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Vagrant_questions_Was=3ARe=5B2=5D=3A__Bad_ka?=
 =?utf-8?q?rma_-_a_kind_of_punning=2C_but_not_only_-_I_have_got_an_issue_w?=
 =?utf-8?q?ith_nodejs=27_karma_module_while_installing_gulp=2E=2E=2E?=
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References: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>
	<1433325707.677751711@f429.i.mail.ru>
	<44D54A92-27D3-4297-B009-AE8B790C8F2B@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <1433449029.851450480@f245.i.mail.ru>

 Hans --

Yes, you're right, I have first time heard about Vagrant from you here ?a day ago.

I have now got Vagrant installed on my MS Windows 8.1 PC and I have read Vagrant docs a bit but I cannot currently run though its "Getting started" tutorial as this tutorial requires to download a Vagrant Box which is "heavy"/pricey for my current mobile connection - I'll get back to my main broadband Internet connection during this weekend.

So currently I have just one question for you:

- On this web page -? https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/getting-started/up.html ?- it is written ?"In less than a minute, this command will finish and you'll have a virtual machine running Ubuntu. You won't actually see anything though, since Vagrant runs the virtual machine without a UI."

Question: Does Vagrant actually *run* VirtualBox's VMs ?images? - I have thought Vagrant just manages (some special way) VirtualBox VMs running within VirtualBox.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Thursday, June  4, 2015 10:25 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>Shamil,
>
>I'm not sure you understood my suggestion.
>
>Vagrant is a tool that helps you create and maintain lightweight development environments. It creates Linux VirtualBox vms on your local machine (Windows, Mac, Linux whatever) with a local folder mounted to it, which means you can develop using Visual Studio or whatever. It makes no difference and doesn't force you to another environment.
>
>This might make a lot more sense for you since node.js works a lot better in a Linux (and Mac) environment as 99% of node developers write and deploy code on Linux and Macs. You do not need to buy a new machine to get these benefits since it's all happening within a virtual machine.
>
>As far as TypeScript is concerned, I don't have any experience with it, so I don't have any specific suggestions as to why it is unable to do something as simple as understand whether a semi-colon exists or not.
>
>- Hans
<<< skipped >>>
>

From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Thu Jun  4 16:06:17 2015
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 14:06:17 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Vagrant questions Was:Re[2]: Bad karma - a kind of
	punning,
	but not only - I have got an issue with nodejs' karma module while
	installing gulp...
In-Reply-To: <1433449029.851450480@f245.i.mail.ru>
References: <1433293057.467959607@f411.i.mail.ru>
	<1433325707.677751711@f429.i.mail.ru>
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	<1433449029.851450480@f245.i.mail.ru>
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Cool. Regarding downloading of the Ubuntu image, once it is downloaded it caches it so if you ever spin up a new imagine it doesn't have to fetch the whole Ubuntu image again.

Regarding your second question, yes it does run VirtualBox so to speak. VirtualBox has an API interface and hooks, so Vagrant is able create, pause, save, halt, destroy and interface with your VirtualBox vm from a series of commands from the command line without you ever seeing VirtualBox running in any way and the vm is headless too.

Of course, if you choose to open the VirtualBox interface, you will see your vagrant vms listed and running.

Have fun with it! It works great for dev teams who want a consistent dev environment for projects without having to clutter their with tools and libraries (which can conflict between different projects) and not having to depend on a dedicated dev server. And the other benefit is that vagrant/VirtualBox is cross platform so your devs can work on whatever OS they prefer.

- Hans


> On Jun 4, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> Hans --
> 
> Yes, you're right, I have first time heard about Vagrant from you here  a day ago.
> 
> I have now got Vagrant installed on my MS Windows 8.1 PC and I have read Vagrant docs a bit but I cannot currently run though its "Getting started" tutorial as this tutorial requires to download a Vagrant Box which is "heavy"/pricey for my current mobile connection - I'll get back to my main broadband Internet connection during this weekend.
> 
> So currently I have just one question for you:
> 
> - On this web page -  https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/getting-started/up.html  - it is written  "In less than a minute, this command will finish and you'll have a virtual machine running Ubuntu. You won't actually see anything though, since Vagrant runs the virtual machine without a UI."
> 
> Question: Does Vagrant actually *run* VirtualBox's VMs  images? - I have thought Vagrant just manages (some special way) VirtualBox VMs running within VirtualBox.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
> Thursday, June  4, 2015 10:25 AM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>> Shamil,
>> 
>> I'm not sure you understood my suggestion.
>> 
>> Vagrant is a tool that helps you create and maintain lightweight development environments. It creates Linux VirtualBox vms on your local machine (Windows, Mac, Linux whatever) with a local folder mounted to it, which means you can develop using Visual Studio or whatever. It makes no difference and doesn't force you to another environment.
>> 
>> This might make a lot more sense for you since node.js works a lot better in a Linux (and Mac) environment as 99% of node developers write and deploy code on Linux and Macs. You do not need to buy a new machine to get these benefits since it's all happening within a virtual machine.
>> 
>> As far as TypeScript is concerned, I don't have any experience with it, so I don't have any specific suggestions as to why it is unable to do something as simple as understand whether a semi-colon exists or not.
>> 
>> - Hans
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 05:08:16 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 06:08:16 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized
In-Reply-To: <579860984.87520514.1433259408857.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1jAjLf8U=+cEGdYT83qegDkSWR8j3w=ugrqXxY_o70Ghw@mail.gmail.com>
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Second monitor problem solved at last!

I was about to eject one of my thumb drives, and so clicked the Show Hidden
icons button. Then I noticed a couple of icons there that I hadn't seen
before. Hovering over them, I discovered that one's Control Tip said "Intel
HD Graphics." Intrigued, I clicked it, and there discovered the option to
extend the display to both the built-in monitor and the external monitor.
Presto! All is wonderful again.

Now, the only "problem" is that the display on the laptop is much sharper
and more vivid than the external 22" LG monitor. But that I can live with.
[?].

Arthur
?

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun  5 12:51:33 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:51:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gjDTT4n5PNk5RpM9-WRhDAYmUQODx8x05sNOdsxgEVKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2003897149.90074672.1433526693405.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Arthur:

Brilliant.

Jim

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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 3:08:16 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized

Second monitor problem solved at last!

I was about to eject one of my thumb drives, and so clicked the Show Hidden
icons button. Then I noticed a couple of icons there that I hadn't seen
before. Hovering over them, I discovered that one's Control Tip said "Intel
HD Graphics." Intrigued, I clicked it, and there discovered the option to
extend the display to both the built-in monitor and the external monitor.
Presto! All is wonderful again.

Now, the only "problem" is that the display on the laptop is much sharper
and more vivid than the external 22" LG monitor. But that I can live with.
[?].

Arthur
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Jun  6 06:26:49 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:26:49 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Google_Chrome=3A_Error_=27Cross_origin_reque?=
 =?utf-8?q?sts_are_only_supported_for_protocol_schemes=3A_http=2C_data=2C_?=
 =?utf-8?q?chrome=2C_chrome-extension=2C_https=2C_chrome-extension-resourc?=
 =?utf-8?b?ZS4n?=
Message-ID: <1433590009.682390185@f292.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

I'm working through TypeScript EdX course using Sublime/Gulp and while working on/running this course Module 5 assessment html + js I'm getting the following errors:


1. XMLHttpRequest cannot load file:///E:/Typescript/Learning/Module5/src/JSON/recipeTypes.json. 
Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.
2. Uncaught NetworkError: Failed to execute 'send' on 'XMLHttpRequest': Failed to load 'file:///E:/Typescript/Learning/Module5/src/JSON/recipeTypes.json'. It's clear what the errors mean - what is unclear is how to make 'cross origin request' allowed for 'file:' protocol for Google Chrome - ?a kind of local HTML app running without a web server?

FYI: when opening the same assessment .html locally in FF 38.01. it works without any complains: .js executes, .json files loaded and parsed, drop-down boxes filled with data from .json files etc.

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun  6 11:08:06 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:08:06 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only
 supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https,
 chrome-extension-resource.'
In-Reply-To: <1433590009.682390185@f292.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <36505305.90610709.1433606886578.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

When I run into similar problems it is because some of the required files or a library are not in the "path".

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 4:26:49 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.'

 Hi All --

I'm working through TypeScript EdX course using Sublime/Gulp and while working on/running this course Module 5 assessment html + js I'm getting the following errors:


1. XMLHttpRequest cannot load file:///E:/Typescript/Learning/Module5/src/JSON/recipeTypes.json. 
Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.
2. Uncaught NetworkError: Failed to execute 'send' on 'XMLHttpRequest': Failed to load 'file:///E:/Typescript/Learning/Module5/src/JSON/recipeTypes.json'. It's clear what the errors mean - what is unclear is how to make 'cross origin request' allowed for 'file:' protocol for Google Chrome - ?a kind of local HTML app running without a web server?

FYI: when opening the same assessment .html locally in FF 38.01. it works without any complains: .js executes, .json files loaded and parsed, drop-down boxes filled with data from .json files etc.

Thank you.

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Jun  6 11:39:30 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 19:39:30 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Google_Chrome=3A_Error_=27Cross_origin_reque?=
 =?utf-8?q?sts_are_only_supported_for_protocol_schemes=3A_http=2C_data=2C_?=
 =?utf-8?q?chrome=2C_chrome-extension=2C_https=2C_chrome-extension-resourc?=
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 Hi Jim --

As I have noted FireFox works well with the same html + js-es + json opened directly from local disk ?using File -> Open.

Have a look:? http://tinyurl.com/oxpdbf6

But I wanted to have Google Chrome to be working as smoothly as FF (or Safari). I don't even mention IE...?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Saturday, June  6, 2015 10:08 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>When I run into similar problems it is because some of the required files or a library are not in the "path".
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 4:26:49 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.'
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I'm working through TypeScript EdX course using Sublime/Gulp and while working on/running this course Module 5 assessment html + js I'm getting the following errors:
>
>
>1. XMLHttpRequest cannot load file:///E:/Typescript/Learning/Module5/src/JSON/recipeTypes.json. 
>Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.
>2. Uncaught NetworkError: Failed to execute 'send' on 'XMLHttpRequest': Failed to load 'file:///E:/Typescript/Learning/Module5/src/JSON/recipeTypes.json'. It's clear what the errors mean - what is unclear is how to make 'cross origin request' allowed for 'file:' protocol for Google Chrome - ?a kind of local HTML app running without a web server?
>
>FYI: when opening the same assessment .html locally in FF 38.01. it works without any complains: .js executes, .json files loaded and parsed, drop-down boxes filled with data from .json files etc.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun  6 12:45:00 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:45:00 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only
 supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https,
 chrome-extension-resource.'
In-Reply-To: <1433608770.280607531@f358.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <988774309.90657141.1433612700123.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

Oh dear... I had hoped that we were able to get away from all these browser disparities. 

I have run into this "cross domain" problem so many times. It is a fairly recent issue supposedly to guard against cross site attacks. It seems that each browser has it own interpretation of what represents a domain's range.

When you are running everything from Localhost domains are not a problem but when the site is moved to a webserver then how relative and absolute links are managed become an issue. Hard coding for internal links usually works but if an absolute link is built in code, like in a variable, then interpretation becomes browsers dependent. There is three ways around this; one, build all absolute links via server side code, two, use only relative links and three, assuming you have a server BE in place, use the server's configuration file to set the base parameters. 

My choice, as using the server to handle things that are really FE issues is a waste of resources, is to write all internal site code as relative links. In 2008, I had to completely rewrite the DBA sites code as that is when the browser change took place and I didn't want that little site to be server dependent.

Jim    

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 9:39:30 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.'

 Hi Jim --

As I have noted FireFox works well with the same html + js-es + json opened directly from local disk ?using File -> Open.

Have a look:? http://tinyurl.com/oxpdbf6

But I wanted to have Google Chrome to be working as smoothly as FF (or Safari). I don't even mention IE...?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Saturday, June  6, 2015 10:08 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>When I run into similar problems it is because some of the required files or a library are not in the "path".
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 4:26:49 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.'
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I'm working through TypeScript EdX course using Sublime/Gulp and while working on/running this course Module 5 assessment html + js I'm getting the following errors:
>
>
>1. XMLHttpRequest cannot load file:///E:/Typescript/Learning/Module5/src/JSON/recipeTypes.json. 
>Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.
>2. Uncaught NetworkError: Failed to execute 'send' on 'XMLHttpRequest': Failed to load 'file:///E:/Typescript/Learning/Module5/src/JSON/recipeTypes.json'. It's clear what the errors mean - what is unclear is how to make 'cross origin request' allowed for 'file:' protocol for Google Chrome - ?a kind of local HTML app running without a web server?
>
>FYI: when opening the same assessment .html locally in FF 38.01. it works without any complains: .js executes, .json files loaded and parsed, drop-down boxes filled with data from .json files etc.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Jun  6 13:24:15 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 21:24:15 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Google_Chrome=3A_Error_=27Cross_origin_reque?=
 =?utf-8?q?sts_are_only_supported_for_protocol_schemes=3A_http=2C_data=2C_?=
 =?utf-8?q?chrome=2C_chrome-extension=2C_https=2C_chrome-extension-resourc?=
 =?utf-8?b?ZS4n?=
In-Reply-To: <988774309.90657141.1433612700123.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1433608770.280607531@f358.i.mail.ru>
	<988774309.90657141.1433612700123.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1433615055.57651464@f427.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

All the links in the "HTML + js" app I'm cooking here are relative.?
FF works with this HTML app and ignores "cross domain" requests' issues (there are no cross domain requests in this app AFAIU).
It's a kind of local HTML app for me - and FF handles it smoothly.

But Google Chrome doesn't.

I will use FF, no problem. Just thought if there could be a simple trick to make Google Chrome working with the same HTML app.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Saturday, June  6, 2015 11:45 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Oh dear... I had hoped that we were able to get away from all these browser disparities. 
>
>I have run into this "cross domain" problem so many times. It is a fairly recent issue supposedly to guard against cross site attacks. It seems that each browser has it own interpretation of what represents a domain's range.
>
>When you are running everything from Localhost domains are not a problem but when the site is moved to a webserver then how relative and absolute links are managed become an issue. Hard coding for internal links usually works but if an absolute link is built in code, like in a variable, then interpretation becomes browsers dependent. There is three ways around this; one, build all absolute links via server side code, two, use only relative links and three, assuming you have a server BE in place, use the server's configuration file to set the base parameters. 
>
>My choice, as using the server to handle things that are really FE issues is a waste of resources, is to write all internal site code as relative links. In 2008, I had to completely rewrite the DBA sites code as that is when the browser change took place and I didn't want that little site to be server dependent.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 9:39:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.'
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>As I have noted FireFox works well with the same html + js-es + json opened directly from local disk ?using File -> Open.
>
>Have a look:?  http://tinyurl.com/oxpdbf6
>
>But I wanted to have Google Chrome to be working as smoothly as FF (or Safari). I don't even mention IE...?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
<<< skipped >>>
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun  7 00:51:18 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 23:51:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only
 supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https,
 chrome-extension-resource.'
In-Reply-To: <1433615055.57651464@f427.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <66961395.90859962.1433656278880.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

I am glad to hear that at one (two) browsers are happy.

Just for interest sake what line of code does Chrome fail at?

I do not know if your issue has anything to do with following. A few years ago (four) both FF and Chrome would fail because of certain cross-domain errors. Since then FF has been fixed.(?) but Chrome has not been. I think it is because each browser interprets what represents a cross-domain violation differently. Maybe the following Stackoverflow post may provide some insight as the described error was resolvable via coding using the JSONP method.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4193429/cross-domain-call-not-working-in-firefox-and-chrome

...and...

http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.getJSON

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:24:15 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.'

 Hi Jim --

All the links in the "HTML + js" app I'm cooking here are relative.?
FF works with this HTML app and ignores "cross domain" requests' issues (there are no cross domain requests in this app AFAIU).
It's a kind of local HTML app for me - and FF handles it smoothly.

But Google Chrome doesn't.

I will use FF, no problem. Just thought if there could be a simple trick to make Google Chrome working with the same HTML app.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Saturday, June  6, 2015 11:45 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Oh dear... I had hoped that we were able to get away from all these browser disparities. 
>
>I have run into this "cross domain" problem so many times. It is a fairly recent issue supposedly to guard against cross site attacks. It seems that each browser has it own interpretation of what represents a domain's range.
>
>When you are running everything from Localhost domains are not a problem but when the site is moved to a webserver then how relative and absolute links are managed become an issue. Hard coding for internal links usually works but if an absolute link is built in code, like in a variable, then interpretation becomes browsers dependent. There is three ways around this; one, build all absolute links via server side code, two, use only relative links and three, assuming you have a server BE in place, use the server's configuration file to set the base parameters. 
>
>My choice, as using the server to handle things that are really FE issues is a waste of resources, is to write all internal site code as relative links. In 2008, I had to completely rewrite the DBA sites code as that is when the browser change took place and I didn't want that little site to be server dependent.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 9:39:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google Chrome: Error 'Cross origin requests are only supported for protocol schemes: http, data, chrome, chrome-extension, https, chrome-extension-resource.'
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>As I have noted FireFox works well with the same html + js-es + json opened directly from local disk ?using File -> Open.
>
>Have a look:?  http://tinyurl.com/oxpdbf6
>
>But I wanted to have Google Chrome to be working as smoothly as FF (or Safari). I don't even mention IE...?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
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>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 10:45:40 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:45:40 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iQ6v7PwwfiQhcmy+-7T=4EqWH8679J5BA=wX5VKjZ_zA@mail.gmail.com>

I know that this is a tad off topic, so perhaps you might choose to file it
under "Useless information and little-known facts."

The product was oriiginally developed as a Water Dispenser, designed to
repel water and thus prevent rust. After the company's 40th attempt, it
finally got it right. This resulted in the name WD-0, and it was originally
sold for just that single purpose. But soon afterwards, customers began
using it for other purposes, from spraying bicycle chains to using it as a
lubricant. When the company realized this, it decided to repackage the
product in aerosol cans. Sales went through the roof, to the point where by
1960 a can of WD-40 was to be found in 4 out of 5 households.

When hurricane Katrina struck, sales of WD-40 skyrocketed. Millions of
people used it to rescue objects of all kinds, shapes and types from water
damage and potential rust damage.

I see two morals in this story: 1) Though you might design your product for
one use, you never know what might happen; think of the history of Viagra,
which was not developed for its now most frequent application. 2) Listen to
your customers! They are far more valuable as input than focus groups and
so on. It's not the end of the world for marketing teams, but they have to
learn to listen to the customer.

Arthur

-- 
Arthur

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 10:57:28 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:57:28 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>

Velcro and sugar alcohol also come to mind. :)

Susan H.


>
> I see two morals in this story: 1) Though you might design your product for
> one use, you never know what might happen; think of the history of Viagra,
> which was not developed for its now most frequent application. 2) Listen to
> your customers! They are far more valuable as input than focus groups and
> so on. It's not the end of the world for marketing teams, but they have to
> learn to listen to the customer.
>
>

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 16:25:59 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 17:25:59 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>

Susan,

Please clue me in. I've never heard of sugar alcohol. I have heard of and
have a dozen examples of Velcro, though.

A.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Velcro and sugar alcohol also come to mind. :)
>
> Susan H.

From df.waters at outlook.com  Mon Jun  8 16:41:47 2015
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:41:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS67E2BB4A404D6879DFD05F6BF0@phx.gbl>

My question too!  Can I make my own?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 4:26 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WD-40

Susan,

Please clue me in. I've never heard of sugar alcohol. I have heard of and
have a dozen examples of Velcro, though.

A.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Velcro and sugar alcohol also come to mind. :)
>
> Susan H.
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 17:35:56 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:35:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+cFdPVhnkikw+Yf7+1iq-F=0ykPXc=9RUWKKBYkhS86bA@mail.gmail.com>

Sugar alcohol, which is neither a sugar nor an alcohol, was originally
developed as a laxative. They discovered it was sweet and safe to consume
and now our candy market is full of sugar-free stuff that actually tastes
good. It's low carb and low in calories.

Pick up almost any bag of sugar-free candy and look for the *tol ingredient
-- that's the sugar alcohol.

The downside is... it was originally developed as a laxative. You can't eat
much of it.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/sugar-alcohols

Susan H.


On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Susan,
>
> Please clue me in. I've never heard of sugar alcohol. I have heard of and
> have a dozen examples of Velcro, though.
>
> A.
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Velcro and sugar alcohol also come to mind. :)
> >
> > Susan H.
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 17:43:55 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:43:55 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+cFdPVhnkikw+Yf7+1iq-F=0ykPXc=9RUWKKBYkhS86bA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cFdPVhnkikw+Yf7+1iq-F=0ykPXc=9RUWKKBYkhS86bA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jNTKUa4dNqcipCTHWzxtWJvVtpbxrCAQjqhM2t1JmVLw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the clarification, Susan. Fortunately, I eat no candy,
sugar-free or otherwise: no chocolate bars, no ice cream, no sweetened
yogurt, no sweets of any kind save oranges and grapefruit and grapes. I
drink both coffee and tea black, too.

Arthur

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sugar alcohol, which is neither a sugar nor an alcohol, was originally
> developed as a laxative. They discovered it was sweet and safe to consume
> and now our candy market is full of sugar-free stuff that actually tastes
> good. It's low carb and low in calories.
>
> Pick up almost any bag of sugar-free candy and look for the *tol ingredient
> -- that's the sugar alcohol.
>
> The downside is... it was originally developed as a laxative. You can't eat
> much of it.
>
> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/sugar-alcohols
>
> Susan H.

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Jun  8 22:14:35 2015
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:14:35 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iQ6v7PwwfiQhcmy+-7T=4EqWH8679J5BA=wX5VKjZ_zA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iQ6v7PwwfiQhcmy+-7T=4EqWH8679J5BA=wX5VKjZ_zA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55765A1B.27906.56216442@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Minor correction:  "disperser" not "dispenser" :)

It is also a great softener for glue residues - great for taking labels of used bottles/jars and 
those d*mned bar code/price stickers etc off glassware, crockery etc.  

(I used it on the residue left after pulling off over 100ft of 1 inch "boot stripe" tape that had 
been on the hull of the boat for 13 years - did a fine job of softening it so that I could scrape it 
off easily)

On 8 Jun 2015 at 11:45, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I know that this is a tad off topic, so perhaps you might choose to
> file it under "Useless information and little-known facts."
> 
> The product was oriiginally developed as a Water Dispenser, designed
> to repel water and thus prevent rust. After the company's 40th
> attempt, it finally got it right. This resulted in the name WD-0, and
> it was originally sold for just that single purpose. But soon
> afterwards, customers began using it for other purposes, from spraying
> bicycle chains to using it as a lubricant. When the company realized
> this, it decided to repackage the product in aerosol cans. Sales went
> through the roof, to the point where by 1960 a can of WD-40 was to be
> found in 4 out of 5 households.
> 
> When hurricane Katrina struck, sales of WD-40 skyrocketed. Millions of
> people used it to rescue objects of all kinds, shapes and types from
> water damage and potential rust damage.
> 
> I see two morals in this story: 1) Though you might design your
> product for one use, you never know what might happen; think of the
> history of Viagra, which was not developed for its now most frequent
> application. 2) Listen to your customers! They are far more valuable
> as input than focus groups and so on. It's not the end of the world
> for marketing teams, but they have to learn to listen to the customer.
> 
> Arthur
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 04:37:39 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 05:37:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <55765A1B.27906.56216442@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1iQ6v7PwwfiQhcmy+-7T=4EqWH8679J5BA=wX5VKjZ_zA@mail.gmail.com>
	<55765A1B.27906.56216442@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h7vzukrfvLSg3skmQU_=8k_Vxtw6RZmJUTCbbqhnN0fQ@mail.gmail.com>

Stuart,

You're quite right. Slip of the fingers, not the mind. :) Thanks also for
the tip on removing price stickers. I shop often at a used-stuff store
called Value Village, and their stickers have proved so damned sticky. Time
to pull out the can and do a little spraying.

Arthur

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> Minor correction:  "disperser" not "dispenser" :)
>
> It is also a great softener for glue residues - great for taking labels of
> used bottles/jars and
> those d*mned bar code/price stickers etc off glassware, crockery etc.

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Jun  9 07:37:00 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 05:37:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1h7vzukrfvLSg3skmQU_=8k_Vxtw6RZmJUTCbbqhnN0fQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iQ6v7PwwfiQhcmy+-7T=4EqWH8679J5BA=wX5VKjZ_zA@mail.gmail.com><55765A1B.27906.56216442@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<CAEPJO1h7vzukrfvLSg3skmQU_=8k_Vxtw6RZmJUTCbbqhnN0fQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <729421BFD28046B7AE85BE0196201682@HAL9007>

Nail polish remover also works well as a general solvent.  But probably not
in the kit for a single guy. :)

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 2:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WD-40

Stuart,

You're quite right. Slip of the fingers, not the mind. :) Thanks also for
the tip on removing price stickers. I shop often at a used-stuff store
called Value Village, and their stickers have proved so damned sticky. Time
to pull out the can and do a little spraying.

Arthur

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> Minor correction:  "disperser" not "dispenser" :)
>
> It is also a great softener for glue residues - great for taking 
> labels of used bottles/jars and those d*mned bar code/price stickers 
> etc off glassware, crockery etc.
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Jun  9 09:26:26 2015
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 10:26:26 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+cFdPVhnkikw+Yf7+1iq-F=0ykPXc=9RUWKKBYkhS86bA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>	<CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cFdPVhnkikw+Yf7+1iq-F=0ykPXc=9RUWKKBYkhS86bA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5576F792.3050208@torchlake.com>

Yup, I believe that.  My belly goes into cramping mode anytime I 
actually get some of that "sugar-free" stuff.  Truly, I don't like it.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 06/08/15 6:35 PM, Susan Harkins wrote:
> Sugar alcohol, which is neither a sugar nor an alcohol, was originally
> developed as a laxative. They discovered it was sweet and safe to consume
> and now our candy market is full of sugar-free stuff that actually tastes
> good. It's low carb and low in calories.
>
> Pick up almost any bag of sugar-free candy and look for the *tol ingredient
> -- that's the sugar alcohol.
>
> The downside is... it was originally developed as a laxative. You can't eat
> much of it.
>
> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/sugar-alcohols
>
> Susan H.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Susan,
>>
>> Please clue me in. I've never heard of sugar alcohol. I have heard of and
>> have a dozen examples of Velcro, though.
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Velcro and sugar alcohol also come to mind. :)
>>>
>>> Susan H.
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 09:59:46 2015
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:59:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <5576F792.3050208@torchlake.com>
References: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA++Sg+cFdPVhnkikw+Yf7+1iq-F=0ykPXc=9RUWKKBYkhS86bA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5576F792.3050208@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWFs-0i-XySdwg74t1WzOJ5WYOrjXA+-VBBXL42GrwoAHQ@mail.gmail.com>

OK folks, off to OT with this thread please.

Your friendly neighbourhood listmaster.
Bryan

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Tina Norris Fields
<tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote:
> Yup, I believe that.  My belly goes into cramping mode anytime I actually
> get some of that "sugar-free" stuff.  Truly, I don't like it.
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
>
> On 06/08/15 6:35 PM, Susan Harkins wrote:
>>
>> Sugar alcohol, which is neither a sugar nor an alcohol, was originally
>> developed as a laxative. They discovered it was sweet and safe to consume
>> and now our candy market is full of sugar-free stuff that actually tastes
>> good. It's low carb and low in calories.
>>
>> Pick up almost any bag of sugar-free candy and look for the *tol
>> ingredient
>> -- that's the sugar alcohol.
>>
>> The downside is... it was originally developed as a laxative. You can't
>> eat
>> much of it.
>>
>> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/sugar-alcohols
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Susan,
>>>
>>> Please clue me in. I've never heard of sugar alcohol. I have heard of and
>>> have a dozen examples of Velcro, though.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Velcro and sugar alcohol also come to mind. :)
>>>>
>>>> Susan H.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From df.waters at outlook.com  Tue Jun  9 10:08:22 2015
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:08:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] WD-40
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWFs-0i-XySdwg74t1WzOJ5WYOrjXA+-VBBXL42GrwoAHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+eTb6OeLbKjkysjDB+7=avzB5f5iB712t8Cn86CX_-1_g@mail.gmail.com>	<CAEPJO1g_G7N16TGKG2WT=LmVABEAbmDxdPG3tGoh0v68d+Gp+g@mail.gmail.com>	<CA++Sg+cFdPVhnkikw+Yf7+1iq-F=0ykPXc=9RUWKKBYkhS86bA@mail.gmail.com>	<5576F792.3050208@torchlake.com>
	<CAAZtbWFs-0i-XySdwg74t1WzOJ5WYOrjXA+-VBBXL42GrwoAHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS359CD9889968D632CA8E5F6BE0@phx.gbl>

Wait - doesn't WD-40 mean Wonderful Developer - Age 40?  Fits right in! 
;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:00 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WD-40

OK folks, off to OT with this thread please.

Your friendly neighbourhood listmaster.
Bryan

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Tina Norris Fields
<tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote:
> Yup, I believe that.  My belly goes into cramping mode anytime I 
> actually get some of that "sugar-free" stuff.  Truly, I don't like it.
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
>
> On 06/08/15 6:35 PM, Susan Harkins wrote:
>>
>> Sugar alcohol, which is neither a sugar nor an alcohol, was 
>> originally developed as a laxative. They discovered it was sweet and 
>> safe to consume and now our candy market is full of sugar-free stuff 
>> that actually tastes good. It's low carb and low in calories.
>>
>> Pick up almost any bag of sugar-free candy and look for the *tol 
>> ingredient
>> -- that's the sugar alcohol.
>>
>> The downside is... it was originally developed as a laxative. You 
>> can't eat much of it.
>>
>> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/sugar-alcohols
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Arthur Fuller 
>> <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Susan,
>>>
>>> Please clue me in. I've never heard of sugar alcohol. I have heard 
>>> of and have a dozen examples of Velcro, though.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Velcro and sugar alcohol also come to mind. :)
>>>>
>>>> Susan H.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Jun 11 09:14:16 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 07:14:16 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new Search Engine and a potential bad hit for Google?
Message-ID: <CE2C96BEC716447AA0287F7E4E3AB47B@HAL9007>


Apple is launching search engine to destroy Google

 
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/apple-launching-search-engine-destroy-google-
jason-calacanis
 
r
 
 
 

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Jun 13 18:01:26 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 02:01:26 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?FYI=3A_Dash_-_Dash_gives_your_Mac=2C_iPad_an?=
 =?utf-8?q?d_iPhone_instant_offline_access_to_150+_API_documentation_sets?=
 =?utf-8?q?=2E?=
Message-ID: <1434236486.886324423@f147.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

Do you know anything comparable to?

https://kapeli.com/dash

for MS Windows?

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Jun 13 18:34:03 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 02:34:03 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Learning_AngularJS=2E=2E=2E=2E?=
Message-ID: <1434238443.225824217@f26.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

I have just finished working through the following online course:

http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1

It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.

Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers') ?real life web apps?


--?
???????????? ??????

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 14 12:26:45 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:26:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome
Message-ID: <557DB955.6010808@earthlink.net>

On an old geezer of a box running 64-bit Win7Pro in 4G of RAM, with no 
capacity for RAM expansion, Chrome was often eating up to a gigabyte of 
memory /per tab/, inciting swap thrashing. No amount of Chrome tuning 
could dissuade it from such behaviour.

Till I added the "FlashControl" Chrome extension, which immediately made 
the memory problem vanish---no tab now uses even 200KB no matter how 
long it's been open---and also removed the annoyance of unwanted, 
intrusive flash videos launching themselves and disturbing the cherished 
quiet in this room. The tiny price I pay for this boon is that in the 
unlikely event I do wish to play a flash video, I must click on it.

Jes' sayin'.

PB

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 14 13:58:04 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:58:04 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to mount a secure file system over the internet
In-Reply-To: <1433615055.57651464@f427.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1282703234.95848198.1434308284650.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

There are many ways to connect remotely from a client to a host system. Most (all) Windows users are familiar with Windows built in application called Remote Desktop using the RDP protocol. While it is an easy app to use it only works with Windows products, is limited by the type of OS (desktop) or server, does not support Cloud connection (maybe in the future) and is far from stable or secure.

Enter the SSH protocol. It is a very secure VPN type pipe between computers but until recently was not available on all platforms. It comes as default on Apple and Linux OS and now is installable on Windows OS product line:

http://winscp.net/eng/docs/guide_install

...and will soon also be default on newer Windows platforms:

https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html

Though an SSH connection can be established with most computers much of it setup and design needed to be done at the command prompt level. There has of course always been proprietary applications out there but there is now a new protocol called SSHFS that will allow a full GUI interface between all platforms. As described:

"In computing, SSHFS (SSH Filesystem) is a filesystem client to mount and interact with directories and files located on a remote server or workstation over a normal ssh connection." Note; that the SSH protocol must be installed on platforms on which SSH is not pre-installed by default...but that is simple to rectify (see link above. I have even installed SSH on XP and MS server 2003 without issue).  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSHFS

To install and setup SSHFS for your computers check out the following article. Note; that article is written from the perspective of setting up and connection to a Cloud but the setup is similar for all platforms:

https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-sshfs-to-mount-remote-file-systems-over-ssh

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 14 14:09:17 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:09:17 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome
In-Reply-To: <557DB955.6010808@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1739418025.95855701.1434308957622.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Thanks for the heads up. :-) 

I have been fighting the Chrome "pig" for a while and had only found that by going into "Task manager", killing the Chrome modules directly, effectively crashing it, then restarting Chrome and allowing it to "restore" its lost links, was my only work-around. Crude, direct, but it is effective and definitely better than closing out properly restarting and losing all your links.  

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:26:45 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

On an old geezer of a box running 64-bit Win7Pro in 4G of RAM, with no 
capacity for RAM expansion, Chrome was often eating up to a gigabyte of 
memory /per tab/, inciting swap thrashing. No amount of Chrome tuning 
could dissuade it from such behaviour.

Till I added the "FlashControl" Chrome extension, which immediately made 
the memory problem vanish---no tab now uses even 200KB no matter how 
long it's been open---and also removed the annoyance of unwanted, 
intrusive flash videos launching themselves and disturbing the cherished 
quiet in this room. The tiny price I pay for this boon is that in the 
unlikely event I do wish to play a flash video, I must click on it.

Jes' sayin'.

PB
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 14 14:12:46 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:12:46 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
In-Reply-To: <1434238443.225824217@f26.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1300434467.95857617.1434309166031.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

Not me but I will definitely take that course when time allows. I have been playing with it though... I believe Hans has first hand knowledge but he works incredible hours and may not have the time to respond...immediately.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:34:03 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....

 Hi All --

I have just finished working through the following online course:

http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1

It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.

Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers') ?real life web apps?


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 14 14:31:02 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:31:02 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new Search Engine and a potential bad hit for
 Google?
In-Reply-To: <CE2C96BEC716447AA0287F7E4E3AB47B@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <1668425300.95864095.1434310262305.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Oh dear. ;-)

As much as I dislike Google and all its data extracting, I doubt whether Apple will create a system any different...regardless of their announcement to the contrary. The writer, rightly or wrongly, sees Google as an evil empire. The article's writer, seems to me, like some sort of irrational fanatic.''like a Mac boy". If you want to have fun just substitute the name "Google" with "NSA". 

An aside: The difference being that if you cross Google they may shut off your GMail account but if you cross the NSA, you life is destroyed.     

OTOH, if you dislike Google, DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com/) is a good alternative...but expect emails asking for donations as they are a non-profit organization. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Off Topic" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>, "List" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:14:16 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new Search Engine and a potential bad hit for Google?


Apple is launching search engine to destroy Google

 
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/apple-launching-search-engine-destroy-google-
jason-calacanis
 
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 14 14:33:20 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (peter.brawley at earthlink.net)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:33:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome
Message-ID: <778076317.16208.1434310400662.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-gadwalls.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Leaving the question: why doesn't Flash just die?

PB

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 06/14/15 3:09 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome
Thanks for the heads up. :-) 

I have been fighting the Chrome "pig" for a while and had only found that by going into "Task manager", killing the Chrome modules directly, effectively crashing it, then restarting Chrome and allowing it to "restore" its lost links, was my only work-around. Crude, direct, but it is effective and definitely better than closing out properly restarting and losing all your links.  

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:26:45 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

On an old geezer of a box running 64-bit Win7Pro in 4G of RAM, with no 
capacity for RAM expansion, Chrome was often eating up to a gigabyte of 
memory /per tab/, inciting swap thrashing. No amount of Chrome tuning 
could dissuade it from such behaviour.

Till I added the "FlashControl" Chrome extension, which immediately made 
the memory problem vanish---no tab now uses even 200KB no matter how 
long it's been open---and also removed the annoyance of unwanted, 
intrusive flash videos launching themselves and disturbing the cherished 
quiet in this room. The tiny price I pay for this boon is that in the 
unlikely event I do wish to play a flash video, I must click on it.

Jes' sayin'.

PB
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sun Jun 14 14:36:30 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:36:30 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Learning_AngularJS=2E=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1300434467.95857617.1434309166031.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1434238443.225824217@f26.i.mail.ru>
	<1300434467.95857617.1434309166031.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1434310590.113536952@f89.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Thank you for your comment.

AFAIKR (please correct me if I'm wrong) Hans mainly uses backbone.js

BTW: Here is a good comparison or angular, backbone, can and ember:

http://sporto.github.io/blog/2013/04/12/comparison-angular-backbone-can-ember/


Thank you.

-- Shamil


Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:12 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Not me but I will definitely take that course when time allows. I have been playing with it though... I believe Hans has first hand knowledge but he works incredible hours and may not have the time to respond...immediately.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:34:03 PM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I have just finished working through the following online course:
>
>http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1
>
>It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.
>
>Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers') ?real life web apps?
>
>
>--?
>???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 15 03:54:33 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 02:54:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome
In-Reply-To: <778076317.16208.1434310400662.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-gadwalls.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <490960172.96099090.1434358473567.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Steve Jobs had it right when he banned the product from Apple. As well as being annoying, Flash has more exploits than Windows.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:33:20 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

Leaving the question: why doesn't Flash just die?

PB

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 06/14/15 3:09 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome
Thanks for the heads up. :-) 

I have been fighting the Chrome "pig" for a while and had only found that by going into "Task manager", killing the Chrome modules directly, effectively crashing it, then restarting Chrome and allowing it to "restore" its lost links, was my only work-around. Crude, direct, but it is effective and definitely better than closing out properly restarting and losing all your links.  

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:26:45 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

On an old geezer of a box running 64-bit Win7Pro in 4G of RAM, with no 
capacity for RAM expansion, Chrome was often eating up to a gigabyte of 
memory /per tab/, inciting swap thrashing. No amount of Chrome tuning 
could dissuade it from such behaviour.

Till I added the "FlashControl" Chrome extension, which immediately made 
the memory problem vanish---no tab now uses even 200KB no matter how 
long it's been open---and also removed the annoyance of unwanted, 
intrusive flash videos launching themselves and disturbing the cherished 
quiet in this room. The tiny price I pay for this boon is that in the 
unlikely event I do wish to play a flash video, I must click on it.

Jes' sayin'.

PB
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 15 04:15:51 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 03:15:51 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
In-Reply-To: <1434310590.113536952@f89.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1543239910.96103026.1434359751701.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

Yeomen a client-side development stack, consisting of tools and frameworks and libraries like Backbone and Angular are just one of the many that this framework would use. 

My understanding is that Backbone is an older library than Angular. I have been playing with Yeoman, as of late and have the Angular library attached as part of the stack. (Hans helped me set it up in the first place.) :-)

It does look like Angular is on its way to become the developers default choice.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:36:30 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....

 Hi Jim --

Thank you for your comment.

AFAIKR (please correct me if I'm wrong) Hans mainly uses backbone.js

BTW: Here is a good comparison or angular, backbone, can and ember:

http://sporto.github.io/blog/2013/04/12/comparison-angular-backbone-can-ember/


Thank you.

-- Shamil


Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:12 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Not me but I will definitely take that course when time allows. I have been playing with it though... I believe Hans has first hand knowledge but he works incredible hours and may not have the time to respond...immediately.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:34:03 PM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I have just finished working through the following online course:
>
>http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1
>
>It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.
>
>Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers') ?real life web apps?
>
>
>--?
>???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 15 04:29:13 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 03:29:13 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Dash - Dash gives your Mac,
 iPad and iPhone instant offline access to 150+ API documentation
 sets.
In-Reply-To: <1434236486.886324423@f147.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1219659437.96104541.1434360553629.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

According to an article there is a variety of similar products that available all platforms. 

"Dash-like apps for other platforms have been released. Check out Velocity (http://velocity.silverlakesoftware.com) for Windows, Zeal (http://zealdocs.org) for Linux and LovelyDocs (http://lovelydocs.io) for Android.":

https://blog.kapeli.com/dash-for-ios-android-windows-or-linux

Is it true that there is only one Dash developer?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:01:26 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] FYI: Dash - Dash gives your Mac, iPad and iPhone instant offline access to 150+ API documentation sets.

 Hi All --

Do you know anything comparable to?

https://kapeli.com/dash

for MS Windows?

Thank you.

-- 
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Mon Jun 15 05:26:58 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:26:58 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Learning_AngularJS=2E=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1543239910.96103026.1434359751701.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1434310590.113536952@f89.i.mail.ru>
	<1543239910.96103026.1434359751701.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1434364018.577013837@f56.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Yes, AngularJS looks suitable for my (current) needs. Not sure for other devs...

Yes, Yeoman looks like a great dev support/accelerating tool. Here is it's latest stack for AngularJS - "the next generation ng-fullstack" -? https://github.com/ericmdantas/generator-ng-fullstack ?.
And here is a very valuable and huge dev support tools comparison workbook -?http://www.dancancro.com/comparison-of-angularjs-application-starters/

I do't use Yeoman yet, I have made here manually for myself something like a combination of
'
https://github.com/strabu/generator-kingbolt

and

https://github.com/andresdominguez/generator-protractor

I'm currently using solely Gulp and Sublime while working through AngularJS tutorial and samples??(/ well trying to study AngualrJS in parallel to the C# development) ....

-- Shamil

Monday, June 15, 2015 3:15 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Yeomen a client-side development stack, consisting of tools and frameworks and libraries like Backbone and Angular are just one of the many that this framework would use. 
>
>My understanding is that Backbone is an older library than Angular. I have been playing with Yeoman, as of late and have the Angular library attached as part of the stack. (Hans helped me set it up in the first place.) :-)
>
>It does look like Angular is on its way to become the developers default choice.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:36:30 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Thank you for your comment.
>
>AFAIKR (please correct me if I'm wrong) Hans mainly uses backbone.js
>
>BTW: Here is a good comparison or angular, backbone, can and ember:
>
>http://sporto.github.io/blog/2013/04/12/comparison-angular-backbone-can-ember/
>
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:12 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>Not me but I will definitely take that course when time allows. I have been playing with it though... I believe Hans has first hand knowledge but he works incredible hours and may not have the time to respond...immediately.
>>
>>Jim 
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:34:03 PM
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
>>
>>?Hi All --
>>
>>I have just finished working through the following online course:
>>
>> http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1
>>
>>It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.
>>
>>Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers') ?real life web apps?
>>
>>
>>--?
>>???????????? ??????
>

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Jun 15 11:08:16 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:08:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome
In-Reply-To: <490960172.96099090.1434358473567.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <778076317.16208.1434310400662.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-gadwalls.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<490960172.96099090.1434358473567.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <016d01d0a785$7d3971b0$77ac5510$@winhaven.net>

And more patched exploits than Mac ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

Steve Jobs had it right when he banned the product from Apple. As well as
being annoying, Flash has more exploits than Windows.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:33:20 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

Leaving the question: why doesn't Flash just die?

PB

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 06/14/15 3:09 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome Thanks for the heads
up. :-) 

I have been fighting the Chrome "pig" for a while and had only found that by
going into "Task manager", killing the Chrome modules directly, effectively
crashing it, then restarting Chrome and allowing it to "restore" its lost
links, was my only work-around. Crude, direct, but it is effective and
definitely better than closing out properly restarting and losing all your
links.  

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:26:45 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

On an old geezer of a box running 64-bit Win7Pro in 4G of RAM, with no
capacity for RAM expansion, Chrome was often eating up to a gigabyte of
memory /per tab/, inciting swap thrashing. No amount of Chrome tuning could
dissuade it from such behaviour.

Till I added the "FlashControl" Chrome extension, which immediately made the
memory problem vanish---no tab now uses even 200KB no matter how long it's
been open---and also removed the annoyance of unwanted, intrusive flash
videos launching themselves and disturbing the cherished quiet in this room.
The tiny price I pay for this boon is that in the unlikely event I do wish
to play a flash video, I must click on it.

Jes' sayin'.

PB
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 16 00:54:45 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:54:45 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
In-Reply-To: <1434364018.577013837@f56.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1744356382.96836298.1434434085875.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

Thanks for all the information...but there is such a lot to go through.

I have to wait for confirmation  to "comparison-of-angularjs-application-starters". The amount of information, needed to be able to create an effective website is really staggering.,,but one step at a time... Then we have a new and improved stack with "generator-ng-fullstack". There are few components that I know anything about...most are leading edge stuff and there are some items that I have never heard of...all Cloud designer libraries.

I was always confident that web development would eventually eclipses desktop development and now it has apparently happened but a lot faster than I would have anticipated. ;-)   

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:26:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....

 Hi Jim --

Yes, AngularJS looks suitable for my (current) needs. Not sure for other devs...

Yes, Yeoman looks like a great dev support/accelerating tool. Here is it's latest stack for AngularJS - "the next generation ng-fullstack" -? https://github.com/ericmdantas/generator-ng-fullstack ?.
And here is a very valuable and huge dev support tools comparison workbook -?http://www.dancancro.com/comparison-of-angularjs-application-starters/

I do't use Yeoman yet, I have made here manually for myself something like a combination of
'
https://github.com/strabu/generator-kingbolt

and

https://github.com/andresdominguez/generator-protractor

I'm currently using solely Gulp and Sublime while working through AngularJS tutorial and samples??(/ well trying to study AngualrJS in parallel to the C# development) ....

-- Shamil

Monday, June 15, 2015 3:15 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Yeomen a client-side development stack, consisting of tools and frameworks and libraries like Backbone and Angular are just one of the many that this framework would use. 
>
>My understanding is that Backbone is an older library than Angular. I have been playing with Yeoman, as of late and have the Angular library attached as part of the stack. (Hans helped me set it up in the first place.) :-)
>
>It does look like Angular is on its way to become the developers default choice.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:36:30 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Thank you for your comment.
>
>AFAIKR (please correct me if I'm wrong) Hans mainly uses backbone.js
>
>BTW: Here is a good comparison or angular, backbone, can and ember:
>
>http://sporto.github.io/blog/2013/04/12/comparison-angular-backbone-can-ember/
>
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:12 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>Not me but I will definitely take that course when time allows. I have been playing with it though... I believe Hans has first hand knowledge but he works incredible hours and may not have the time to respond...immediately.
>>
>>Jim 
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:34:03 PM
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
>>
>>?Hi All --
>>
>>I have just finished working through the following online course:
>>
>> http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1
>>
>>It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.
>>
>>Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers') ?real life web apps?
>>
>>
>>--?
>>???????????? ??????
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 16 01:15:07 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 00:15:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] ownCloud
In-Reply-To: <1744356382.96836298.1434434085875.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1153962233.96840847.1434435307197.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

I now have a fully functional ownCloud, running on one of my servers. Its accounts can be accessed either through a web interface or through a secure pipe via a desktop client. The desktop client runs on every platform I have tested: XP, 2003 and 2008 server, a variety of Linux?s, Windows10, Android but I can not get it to work on my Windows7? 

Anyway, it works like a private DropBox. In a business environment, there is virtually no limit to how granulated the accounts and user access can be made. These ownCloud instances can be connected (federated) to clusters of OC versions and data can easily and securely be transferred outside of pubic or third-party private hosting.

I have been working on building, editing, sharing and deleting accounts and watching how the changes ripple through the system. The next step is to start working on collaboration between products like calendars, word documents and spreadsheet...

Jim 


From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Tue Jun 16 01:30:07 2015
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:30:07 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
In-Reply-To: <1434238443.225824217@f26.i.mail.ru>
References: <1434238443.225824217@f26.i.mail.ru>
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No. I've been using Backbone.js for live, real world applications at the last few companies I've been working at to great success. But not Angular. I'm sure it's pretty good, what with Google being fully behind it.

- Hans


> On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> Hi All --
> 
> I have just finished working through the following online course:
> 
> http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1
> 
> It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.
> 
> Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers')  real life web apps?
> 
> 
> -- 
> ???????????? ??????
> _______________________________________________
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From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Tue Jun 16 01:30:50 2015
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:30:50 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
In-Reply-To: <1434310590.113536952@f89.i.mail.ru>
References: <1434238443.225824217@f26.i.mail.ru>
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Ah, you remembered correctly :)

- Hans


> On Jun 14, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim --
> 
> Thank you for your comment.
> 
> AFAIKR (please correct me if I'm wrong) Hans mainly uses backbone.js
> 
> BTW: Here is a good comparison or angular, backbone, can and ember:
> 
> http://sporto.github.io/blog/2013/04/12/comparison-angular-backbone-can-ember/
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
> 
> Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:12 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>> Hi Shamil:
>> 
>> Not me but I will definitely take that course when time allows. I have been playing with it though... I believe Hans has first hand knowledge but he works incredible hours and may not have the time to respond...immediately.
>> 
>> Jim 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:34:03 PM
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
>> 
>>  Hi All --
>> 
>> I have just finished working through the following online course:
>> 
>> http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1
>> 
>> It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.
>> 
>> Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers')  real life web apps?
>> 
>> 
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From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Tue Jun 16 01:51:02 2015
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:51:02 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
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Keep in mind. When you say older, we are only talking about a matter of 1-2 years difference. The big difference between Backbone and Angular is that BB is a fairly un-opinionated framework. You get the basics and you mold it into whatever you like. It's also very extensible if you want to start adding more features (ie 2 way data binding etc etc), while Angular is very opinionated and you have to work within the flexibility it affords you, which is fine too. Ember is even more opinionated, but for reasons that would take longer to explain. At the end of the day, I like BB (combined with Require.js) just because I've used it enough to bang out small to large well structured and testable applications with ease and I don't require the framework to guide me through that process. On the whole though, I applaud the Angular folks for making front end development a better more structured experience, because BB is so flexible that a clueless person can (and I have seen this first hand) come up with a truly horrific monstrosity if they don't know what they are doing and lack experience with front end frameworks and writing good JavaScript. But when you know what you are doing, you can write very good, robust, scalable and lean applications with BB.

- Hans


> On Jun 15, 2015, at 2:15 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Shamil:
> 
> Yeomen a client-side development stack, consisting of tools and frameworks and libraries like Backbone and Angular are just one of the many that this framework would use. 
> 
> My understanding is that Backbone is an older library than Angular. I have been playing with Yeoman, as of late and have the Angular library attached as part of the stack. (Hans helped me set it up in the first place.) :-)
> 
> It does look like Angular is on its way to become the developers default choice.
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:36:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
> 
> Hi Jim --
> 
> Thank you for your comment.
> 
> AFAIKR (please correct me if I'm wrong) Hans mainly uses backbone.js
> 
> BTW: Here is a good comparison or angular, backbone, can and ember:
> 
> http://sporto.github.io/blog/2013/04/12/comparison-angular-backbone-can-ember/
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
> 
> Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:12 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>> Hi Shamil:
>> 
>> Not me but I will definitely take that course when time allows. I have been playing with it though... I believe Hans has first hand knowledge but he works incredible hours and may not have the time to respond...immediately.
>> 
>> Jim 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:34:03 PM
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Learning AngularJS....
>> 
>>  Hi All --
>> 
>> I have just finished working through the following online course:
>> 
>> http://campus.codeschool.com/courses/shaping-up-with-angular-js/level/1/section/1/video/1
>> 
>> It's well done and it was a fun to work through. Recommended.
>> 
>> Do anybody of you use AngularJS for your (customers')  real life web apps?
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> ???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 16 10:27:38 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:27:38 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Swift
In-Reply-To: <1744356382.96836298.1434434085875.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <2067974213.97070945.1434468458455.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

An interesting development with Apple Is Open-Sourcing Swift, its new programming language... It will now be compileable on iOS and Linux.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/08/apple-is-open-sourcing-swift-its-new-programming-language/#.efujwt:7F50

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 17 14:30:03 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:30:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another JS graphic library
In-Reply-To: <F218F1E2-4723-47B6-ABB8-4A113D0CF645@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <1050481644.98073205.1434569403424.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Here is a new JavaScript animation library: 

http://dynamicsjs.com

Here is a particularly interesting popup menu, that I might just use. ;-)

http://dynamicsjs.com/examples/menu.html

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 18 10:04:01 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:04:01 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Webassembly...the new binary format of the web
In-Reply-To: <1050481644.98073205.1434569403424.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1608878842.98625936.1434639841551.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Finally, it seems that all the major browser companies are joining together on a new binary standard called Webassembly (replacing webkit, typescript, asm.js  etc.) 

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/google-microsoft-mozilla-and-others-team-up-to-launch-webassembly-a-new-binary-format-for-the-web/

Jim



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jun 18 10:21:19 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:21:19 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Webassembly...the new binary format of the web
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Hi Jim

Interesting.
But not TypeScript which rather is a superstructure to JavaScript and generates JavaScript only.

But if WebAssembly could compile C# ...

/gustav

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Hi All:

Finally, it seems that all the major browser companies are joining together on a new binary standard called Webassembly (replacing webkit, typescript, asm.js  etc.) 

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/google-microsoft-mozilla-and-others-team-up-to-launch-webassembly-a-new-binary-format-for-the-web/

Jim 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 18 10:46:57 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:46:57 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Webassembly...the new binary format of the web
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Hi Gustav:

The necessity the TypeScript shell is supposed to be one of the issues that the new webassembly addresses.
  
At some point in time C# may be part of a version of webassembly but the whole concept of universal browser based applications are diametrically opposed to what is now a company centric server and desktop based language.

I think we are stuck with JavaScript...much like the poor QWERTY keyboard. ;-)

Jim  

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:21:19 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Webassembly...the new binary format of the web

Hi Jim

Interesting.
But not TypeScript which rather is a superstructure to JavaScript and generates JavaScript only.

But if WebAssembly could compile C# ...

/gustav

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Emne: [dba-Tech] Webassembly...the new binary format of the web

Hi All:

Finally, it seems that all the major browser companies are joining together on a new binary standard called Webassembly (replacing webkit, typescript, asm.js  etc.) 

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/google-microsoft-mozilla-and-others-team-up-to-launch-webassembly-a-new-binary-format-for-the-web/

Jim 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 18 11:59:42 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:59:42 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome
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:-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:08:16 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

And more patched exploits than Mac ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

Steve Jobs had it right when he banned the product from Apple. As well as
being annoying, Flash has more exploits than Windows.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:33:20 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

Leaving the question: why doesn't Flash just die?

PB

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 06/14/15 3:09 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome Thanks for the heads
up. :-) 

I have been fighting the Chrome "pig" for a while and had only found that by
going into "Task manager", killing the Chrome modules directly, effectively
crashing it, then restarting Chrome and allowing it to "restore" its lost
links, was my only work-around. Crude, direct, but it is effective and
definitely better than closing out properly restarting and losing all your
links.  

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:26:45 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] the problem was flash, not chrome

On an old geezer of a box running 64-bit Win7Pro in 4G of RAM, with no
capacity for RAM expansion, Chrome was often eating up to a gigabyte of
memory /per tab/, inciting swap thrashing. No amount of Chrome tuning could
dissuade it from such behaviour.

Till I added the "FlashControl" Chrome extension, which immediately made the
memory problem vanish---no tab now uses even 200KB no matter how long it's
been open---and also removed the annoyance of unwanted, intrusive flash
videos launching themselves and disturbing the cherished quiet in this room.
The tiny price I pay for this boon is that in the unlikely event I do wish
to play a flash video, I must click on it.

Jes' sayin'.

PB
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 10:35:51 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:35:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bizarre problem with CD/DVD internal drive
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hYqyG2dusePDTAtdJU4YJ0s+R-zFGnfyGL35C8nyyYJA@mail.gmail.com>

This only began happening recently and I have no idea why. I can boot from
the CD player, but once the system is up and running, it seems to lose all
track that the CD drive exists. It doesn't appear in File Manager or the
replacement I use, called FreeCommander XE.

Any suggestions what to check?

-- 
Arthur

From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jun 20 10:39:03 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:39:03 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bizarre problem with CD/DVD internal drive
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hYqyG2dusePDTAtdJU4YJ0s+R-zFGnfyGL35C8nyyYJA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Arthur

You could open Disk Manager. It should be listed there but may have lost its drive letter. If so, right-click and assign a letter.

/gustav

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Emne: [dba-Tech] Bizarre problem with CD/DVD internal drive

This only began happening recently and I have no idea why. I can boot from
the CD player, but once the system is up and running, it seems to lose all
track that the CD drive exists. It doesn't appear in File Manager or the
replacement I use, called FreeCommander XE.

Any suggestions what to check?

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 04:40:04 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 05:40:04 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hzt-+fuS10Wha6JQ-dgPv7foXqDLXmz-tk9Vtm-C6QUA@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have a suggestion for such a movie player? I've Googled but there
seem to be lots. Do you have a favourite?

-- 
Arthur

From hkotsch at arcor.de  Sun Jun 21 05:07:18 2015
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:07:18 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hzt-+fuS10Wha6JQ-dgPv7foXqDLXmz-tk9Vtm-C6QUA@mail.gmail.com>
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VLC-Player

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

Helmut

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Anyone have a suggestion for such a movie player? I've Googled but there
seem to be lots. Do you have a favourite?

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jun 21 05:09:11 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 10:09:11 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
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Hi Arthur

I've had success with the DivX Player:

http://www.divx.com/en/software/divx

It also handles the newer formats incl. 4K.

/gustav

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Anyone have a suggestion for such a movie player? I've Googled but there
seem to be lots. Do you have a favourite?

--
Arthur


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 06:18:13 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 07:18:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
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Thanks Helmut and Gustav. The ISOs will have to wait, though. Federrer is
playing in the final at Halle, Germany. A man has to have priorities.[?]

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> I've had success with the DivX Player:
>
> http://www.divx.com/en/software/divx
>
> It also handles the newer formats incl. 4K.
>
> /gustav
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Jun 21 09:23:11 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 07:23:11 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
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Second that.

r 

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Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:07 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

VLC-Player

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

Helmut

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 21 13:00:50 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:00:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hzt-+fuS10Wha6JQ-dgPv7foXqDLXmz-tk9Vtm-C6QUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hzt-+fuS10Wha6JQ-dgPv7foXqDLXmz-tk9Vtm-C6QUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5586FBD2.1080202@earthlink.net>

On 2015-06-21 4:40 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Anyone have a suggestion for such a movie player? I've Googled but there
> seem to be lots. Do you have a favourite?
VLC Media Player plays everything, is free, and does no corporate stooge 
DRM nonsense.

PB

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Jun 22 23:14:35 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:14:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp
In-Reply-To: <11523feaaed94afe84c3dd9807d5d299@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <78292D2E23144DEE9441A182C3990AB5@HAL9007>
	<11523feaaed94afe84c3dd9807d5d299@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <03AB555A8DE947B095D2F26C596CA870@HAL9007>

Well, after fiddlefarting around with this stupid comp for a couple of weeks
I pulled the trigger - went for the nuclear option - fresh install of W7
Ultimate and now reinstalling all the essential programs - firefox, Office
2000 & 2010, Ghost (love obsolete tech - it works) Irfan, Malwarebytes,
Spybot, a torrent client, yada, yada.

Still don't know what to do about AV, though.  I think it may have been
Avast - which I use on my main box - that hosed up the video stream - You
Tube just wouldn't play - and slowed the box to a crawl.  But it may have
been a lot of other junk that was bumper surfing on my OS. 

I've currently got Windows Defender on and frankly, I don't do much with
this box other than use it as a backup in case the main box fails. Being a
lone ranger programmer for all these years has made me super cautious about
backups and redundancy. If the main box fails I can turn to box Number 2 and
be right back in business.

But I'm not doing email on this box (where many virii are delivered) and
only a little web browsing - mostly music channels. So I don't need the
Tesla of anti-virus systems. 

Anyway, what is everyone's fave AV solution these days?


TIA

r
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:03 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

Hi Rocky

I would run MalwareBytes, CCleaner, and give it a thorough Defragging, and
see if that made any difference to it...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:50 PM
To: List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

So I've got this desktop - it's my secondary box - not my primary work box.
It's also my music box.  If I want to listen to music while I'm working, or
practice a tune, I use this one.

But I also drag and drop a copy of EVERYTHING I work on onto this box.  An
old habit of being a lone ranger developer all these years.  If box #1 craps
out, I can at least keep the business going.

But box #2 has been slowing down lately - thrashing a bit.  I have three
other desktops but I think this one is the best of the bunch.  The others
are going to be got rid of somehow.

Anyway, I digress.  What I'd like to do is speed this bad boy up.  It's an
eMachines T5082 running W7 SP1.  It's got a 3GHz P4 with 2GB and that's the
limit, I think. Small HD - 140GB but more than I need.

I suppose I could back up everything essential, wipe the HD, and reinstall
W7.  Then download all the programs I really need.

But is there an effective alternative to this nuclear option?

I've seen a lot of snappy ads promising to speed up my comp but they look
like snake oil for the most part and I don't trust them any farther than I
can throw my whole desk.

Any advice welcome.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com
<http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
Skype: rocky.smolin

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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Jun 23 02:49:35 2015
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:49:35 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp
In-Reply-To: <03AB555A8DE947B095D2F26C596CA870@HAL9007>
References: <78292D2E23144DEE9441A182C3990AB5@HAL9007>
	<11523feaaed94afe84c3dd9807d5d299@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<03AB555A8DE947B095D2F26C596CA870@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <3080955165a94e6db8038b8974f41e3f@CHVEX11.lonzagroup.net>

A couple of years ago I bought lifetime (of the PC) 10 Vipre licences for $150, so I'm still using those. I've only used 5 of them so far, so I'll be fully stocked with AV for a looong time :-)


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:15 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

Well, after fiddlefarting around with this stupid comp for a couple of weeks I pulled the trigger - went for the nuclear option - fresh install of W7 Ultimate and now reinstalling all the essential programs - firefox, Office
2000 & 2010, Ghost (love obsolete tech - it works) Irfan, Malwarebytes, Spybot, a torrent client, yada, yada.

Still don't know what to do about AV, though.  I think it may have been Avast - which I use on my main box - that hosed up the video stream - You Tube just wouldn't play - and slowed the box to a crawl.  But it may have been a lot of other junk that was bumper surfing on my OS.

I've currently got Windows Defender on and frankly, I don't do much with this box other than use it as a backup in case the main box fails. Being a lone ranger programmer for all these years has made me super cautious about backups and redundancy. If the main box fails I can turn to box Number 2 and be right back in business.

But I'm not doing email on this box (where many virii are delivered) and only a little web browsing - mostly music channels. So I don't need the Tesla of anti-virus systems.

Anyway, what is everyone's fave AV solution these days?


TIA

r
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:03 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

Hi Rocky

I would run MalwareBytes, CCleaner, and give it a thorough Defragging, and see if that made any difference to it...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:50 PM
To: List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

So I've got this desktop - it's my secondary box - not my primary work box.
It's also my music box.  If I want to listen to music while I'm working, or practice a tune, I use this one.

But I also drag and drop a copy of EVERYTHING I work on onto this box.  An old habit of being a lone ranger developer all these years.  If box #1 craps out, I can at least keep the business going.

But box #2 has been slowing down lately - thrashing a bit.  I have three other desktops but I think this one is the best of the bunch.  The others are going to be got rid of somehow.

Anyway, I digress.  What I'd like to do is speed this bad boy up.  It's an eMachines T5082 running W7 SP1.  It's got a 3GHz P4 with 2GB and that's the limit, I think. Small HD - 140GB but more than I need.

I suppose I could back up everything essential, wipe the HD, and reinstall W7.  Then download all the programs I really need.

But is there an effective alternative to this nuclear option?

I've seen a lot of snappy ads promising to speed up my comp but they look like snake oil for the most part and I don't trust them any farther than I can throw my whole desk.

Any advice welcome.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
Skype: rocky.smolin

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From hkotsch at arcor.de  Tue Jun 23 05:23:36 2015
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:23:36 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp
In-Reply-To: <03AB555A8DE947B095D2F26C596CA870@HAL9007>
References: <78292D2E23144DEE9441A182C3990AB5@HAL9007>	<11523feaaed94afe84c3dd9807d5d299@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<03AB555A8DE947B095D2F26C596CA870@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <002201d0ad9e$aa6a0fe0$ff3e2fa0$@de>

I use avira pro.

Protect three devices for three years. 99,95 ?

http://www.avira.com/

Never had an issue with a virus.

There is also a free version.

http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus

Helmut



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Rocky Smolin
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2015 06:15
An: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

Well, after fiddlefarting around with this stupid comp for a couple of weeks I pulled the trigger - went for the nuclear option - fresh install of W7 Ultimate and now reinstalling all the essential programs - firefox, Office 2000 & 2010, Ghost (love obsolete tech - it works) Irfan, Malwarebytes, Spybot, a torrent client, yada, yada.

Still don't know what to do about AV, though.  I think it may have been Avast - which I use on my main box - that hosed up the video stream - You Tube just wouldn't play - and slowed the box to a crawl.  But it may have been a lot of other junk that was bumper surfing on my OS. 

I've currently got Windows Defender on and frankly, I don't do much with this box other than use it as a backup in case the main box fails. Being a lone ranger programmer for all these years has made me super cautious about backups and redundancy. If the main box fails I can turn to box Number 2 and be right back in business.

But I'm not doing email on this box (where many virii are delivered) and only a little web browsing - mostly music channels. So I don't need the Tesla of anti-virus systems. 

Anyway, what is everyone's fave AV solution these days?


TIA

r
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:03 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

Hi Rocky

I would run MalwareBytes, CCleaner, and give it a thorough Defragging, and see if that made any difference to it...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:50 PM
To: List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

So I've got this desktop - it's my secondary box - not my primary work box.
It's also my music box.  If I want to listen to music while I'm working, or practice a tune, I use this one.

But I also drag and drop a copy of EVERYTHING I work on onto this box.  An old habit of being a lone ranger developer all these years.  If box #1 craps out, I can at least keep the business going.

But box #2 has been slowing down lately - thrashing a bit.  I have three other desktops but I think this one is the best of the bunch.  The others are going to be got rid of somehow.

Anyway, I digress.  What I'd like to do is speed this bad boy up.  It's an eMachines T5082 running W7 SP1.  It's got a 3GHz P4 with 2GB and that's the limit, I think. Small HD - 140GB but more than I need.

I suppose I could back up everything essential, wipe the HD, and reinstall W7.  Then download all the programs I really need.

But is there an effective alternative to this nuclear option?

I've seen a lot of snappy ads promising to speed up my comp but they look like snake oil for the most part and I don't trust them any farther than I can throw my whole desk.

Any advice welcome.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
Skype: rocky.smolin

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 06:08:12 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:08:12 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+cbgBWvD8GDCBqrwdZ9DYvTJqkFmMzbxt3F5Xt2gcdK9A@mail.gmail.com>

Nice deal. I just paid $70 for 10 for a year.

Susan H.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Jon Tydda <jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:

> A couple of years ago I bought lifetime (of the PC) 10 Vipre licences for
> $150, so I'm still using those. I've only used 5 of them so far, so I'll be
> fully stocked with AV for a looong time :-)
>
>
>

From df.waters at outlook.com  Tue Jun 23 06:54:28 2015
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:54:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp
In-Reply-To: <03AB555A8DE947B095D2F26C596CA870@HAL9007>
References: <78292D2E23144DEE9441A182C3990AB5@HAL9007>	<11523feaaed94afe84c3dd9807d5d299@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<03AB555A8DE947B095D2F26C596CA870@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS10A0519356E521D15DFDC5F6A00@phx.gbl>

I use both Microsoft Security Essentials and MalwareBytes Pro ($25/yr for 3
licenses).

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:15 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

Well, after fiddlefarting around with this stupid comp for a couple of weeks
I pulled the trigger - went for the nuclear option - fresh install of W7
Ultimate and now reinstalling all the essential programs - firefox, Office
2000 & 2010, Ghost (love obsolete tech - it works) Irfan, Malwarebytes,
Spybot, a torrent client, yada, yada.

Still don't know what to do about AV, though.  I think it may have been
Avast - which I use on my main box - that hosed up the video stream - You
Tube just wouldn't play - and slowed the box to a crawl.  But it may have
been a lot of other junk that was bumper surfing on my OS. 

I've currently got Windows Defender on and frankly, I don't do much with
this box other than use it as a backup in case the main box fails. Being a
lone ranger programmer for all these years has made me super cautious about
backups and redundancy. If the main box fails I can turn to box Number 2 and
be right back in business.

But I'm not doing email on this box (where many virii are delivered) and
only a little web browsing - mostly music channels. So I don't need the
Tesla of anti-virus systems. 

Anyway, what is everyone's fave AV solution these days?


TIA

r
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jon Tydda
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:03 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

Hi Rocky

I would run MalwareBytes, CCleaner, and give it a thorough Defragging, and
see if that made any difference to it...


Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:50 PM
To: List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

So I've got this desktop - it's my secondary box - not my primary work box.
It's also my music box.  If I want to listen to music while I'm working, or
practice a tune, I use this one.

But I also drag and drop a copy of EVERYTHING I work on onto this box.  An
old habit of being a lone ranger developer all these years.  If box #1 craps
out, I can at least keep the business going.

But box #2 has been slowing down lately - thrashing a bit.  I have three
other desktops but I think this one is the best of the bunch.  The others
are going to be got rid of somehow.

Anyway, I digress.  What I'd like to do is speed this bad boy up.  It's an
eMachines T5082 running W7 SP1.  It's got a 3GHz P4 with 2GB and that's the
limit, I think. Small HD - 140GB but more than I need.

I suppose I could back up everything essential, wipe the HD, and reinstall
W7.  Then download all the programs I really need.

But is there an effective alternative to this nuclear option?

I've seen a lot of snappy ads promising to speed up my comp but they look
like snake oil for the most part and I don't trust them any farther than I
can throw my whole desk.

Any advice welcome.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> www.e-z-mrp.com
<http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
Skype: rocky.smolin

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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Jun 23 07:20:18 2015
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:20:18 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp
In-Reply-To: <CA++Sg+cbgBWvD8GDCBqrwdZ9DYvTJqkFmMzbxt3F5Xt2gcdK9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA++Sg+cbgBWvD8GDCBqrwdZ9DYvTJqkFmMzbxt3F5Xt2gcdK9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62f4bcc8085a41f18b69da39a8a9f359@CHVEX11.lonzagroup.net>

Yeah, I didn't think I could pass it by!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Slow Comp

Nice deal. I just paid $70 for 10 for a year.

Susan H.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Jon Tydda <jon.tydda at lonza.com> wrote:

> A couple of years ago I bought lifetime (of the PC) 10 Vipre licences
> for $150, so I'm still using those. I've only used 5 of them so far,
> so I'll be fully stocked with AV for a looong time :-)
>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 23 13:31:27 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:31:27 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Browser searchenginge
In-Reply-To: <62f4bcc8085a41f18b69da39a8a9f359@CHVEX11.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <1059850589.102139376.1435084287638.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Here is the latest on the little search engine of DuckDuckGo. It is now going to be the default search engine iOS systems and the following article makes a compelling case for switching to this search engine:

http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/16/duckduckgo-growth-ios

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 23 21:32:48 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:32:48 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <002101d0ac0a$0ec1d9a0$2c458ce0$@de>
Message-ID: <837306500.102519383.1435113167997.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

I heard the MPV player is am excellent player. Supposedly, it can actually fix video errors in real time and is therefore used professionally:

http://mpv.io

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Helmut Kotsch" <hkotsch at arcor.de>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:07:18 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

VLC-Player

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

Helmut

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von
Arthur Fuller
Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Juni 2015 11:40
An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Betreff: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Anyone have a suggestion for such a movie player? I've Googled but there
seem to be lots. Do you have a favourite?

--
Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Jun 23 22:53:53 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:53:53 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <837306500.102519383.1435113167997.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <002101d0ac0a$0ec1d9a0$2c458ce0$@de>
	<837306500.102519383.1435113167997.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5DD8E5D84F2D44DBA1C334B7AF71F5E1@HAL9007>

Is there anything to recommend it over VLC? Does the world need another
player? (Like does it need another browser?)

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:33 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Hi All:

I heard the MPV player is am excellent player. Supposedly, it can actually
fix video errors in real time and is therefore used professionally:

http://mpv.io

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Helmut Kotsch" <hkotsch at arcor.de>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:07:18 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

VLC-Player

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

Helmut

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An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Betreff: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Anyone have a suggestion for such a movie player? I've Googled but there
seem to be lots. Do you have a favourite?

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 08:47:54 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:47:54 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Opinions on GUIs for Git on Windows
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iRdCc1n2nSt1sQeupPa8OUi4mDhSaheGEONBck9bRXDQ@mail.gmail.com>

I see that there are several free GUIs for Git, including these: GitHub,
Git Extensions, SourceTree, git-cola, SmartGit and GitEye. Any opinions on
which to download and use?

-- 
Arthur

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun 24 08:55:54 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:55:54 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Opinions on GUIs for Git on Windows
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB09131F42CA38D1AF94A25EB5CAAF0@AM2PR06MB0913.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

I use GitHub, the web site.
But also Visual Studio 2013+ should integrate with Git directly; haven't tried that though.

/gustav

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Emne: [dba-Tech] Opinions on GUIs for Git on Windows

I see that there are several free GUIs for Git, including these: GitHub, Git Extensions, SourceTree, git-cola, SmartGit and GitEye. Any opinions on which to download and use?

--
Arthur 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Jun 24 16:50:33 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:50:33 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Opinions_on_GUIs_for_Git_on_Windows?=
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Message-ID: <1435182633.15756634@f116.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Arthur --

A while ago I used Git Extensions (GitExt). It was a good choice of Git GUI recommended to me by Umbraco team members who are using GitExt every day AFAIU.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:47 AM -04:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>I see that there are several free GUIs for Git, including these: GitHub,
>Git Extensions, SourceTree, git-cola, SmartGit and GitEye. Any opinions on
>which to download and use?
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Jun 25 10:07:41 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:07:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] X posted: Gadgets
Message-ID: <D6D33A8C2DE84FB3878C48DBFBD7A3BE@HAL9007>

MS has discontinued gadgets in W8 because of vulnerabilities.  
 
I'm still on W7 but the stock market ticket gadget I used to use is gone.  
 
Does anyone know of a stock market monitor gadget or app that I could park
on the desk top that is safe to use?
 
TIA
 
Rocky
 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 26 15:07:13 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:07:13 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <5DD8E5D84F2D44DBA1C334B7AF71F5E1@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <572397672.104698454.1435349233231.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

I always think the more creativity the better...more options generate more creativity. Monopolies are bad.

I have been using both players...VLC for features and MPV for purity of sound and graphics reproduction....each player has their own place.

Jim  

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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:53:53 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Is there anything to recommend it over VLC? Does the world need another
player? (Like does it need another browser?)

r 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Hi All:

I heard the MPV player is am excellent player. Supposedly, it can actually
fix video errors in real time and is therefore used professionally:

http://mpv.io

Jim

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
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Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:07:18 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

VLC-Player

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

Helmut

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Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Juni 2015 11:40
An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Betreff: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Anyone have a suggestion for such a movie player? I've Googled but there
seem to be lots. Do you have a favourite?

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 09:31:47 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:31:47 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <572397672.104698454.1435349233231.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <5DD8E5D84F2D44DBA1C334B7AF71F5E1@HAL9007>
	<572397672.104698454.1435349233231.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gcvum5akTsYQ2aqNXTxcemfEMONir0xAKFWkP=jap-yQ@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

>> each player has their own place.
Apparently you are also "creative" with the use of English syntax [?].
?
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Jun 27 09:45:14 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 07:45:14 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gcvum5akTsYQ2aqNXTxcemfEMONir0xAKFWkP=jap-yQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5DD8E5D84F2D44DBA1C334B7AF71F5E1@HAL9007><572397672.104698454.1435349233231.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<CAEPJO1gcvum5akTsYQ2aqNXTxcemfEMONir0xAKFWkP=jap-yQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79BBBAA026714BF6A8D63D54771AC20C@HAL9007>

Nonpareil; a true master of the art. :)

R
 

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:32 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Jim,

>> each player has their own place.
Apparently you are also "creative" with the use of English syntax [?].
?
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 17:08:49 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:08:49 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <79BBBAA026714BF6A8D63D54771AC20C@HAL9007>
References: <5DD8E5D84F2D44DBA1C334B7AF71F5E1@HAL9007>
	<572397672.104698454.1435349233231.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<CAEPJO1gcvum5akTsYQ2aqNXTxcemfEMONir0xAKFWkP=jap-yQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<79BBBAA026714BF6A8D63D54771AC20C@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j126WGTawmgKv1jSjDDR98kE=_sN3Wis+1W0ZbN=xd3g@mail.gmail.com>

Speaking of mastering syntax and grammar, here is a poser, my first
encounter of which was in the movie "Charlie."

Punctuate this sentence:

That that is is that that is not is not is that it it is

Not fair to Google it. Much more fun to take it stroke by stroke and puzzle
it out. Apparently there are two solutions, the first of which is
relatively obvious, given a few minutes' thought and parsing, the second
being much more difficult. I remind you: no Googling allowed! Solve this
linguistic puzzle on your own.
?Arthur

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 17:14:47 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:14:47 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j126WGTawmgKv1jSjDDR98kE=_sN3Wis+1W0ZbN=xd3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5DD8E5D84F2D44DBA1C334B7AF71F5E1@HAL9007>
	<572397672.104698454.1435349233231.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<CAEPJO1gcvum5akTsYQ2aqNXTxcemfEMONir0xAKFWkP=jap-yQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<79BBBAA026714BF6A8D63D54771AC20C@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1j126WGTawmgKv1jSjDDR98kE=_sN3Wis+1W0ZbN=xd3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iB1ACh5=10MtCOepogDDqPj9vOc=X0gSu8SYx2i_1Ktg@mail.gmail.com>

Another linguistic puzzle, lifted from Steven Pinker's splendid work "The
Language Instinct", which in case you needed guidance into the world of
Chomsky, contains the most lucid explanation of Noam's work to date.)

"Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo."

This sentence is both syntactically and logically correct, and I can prove
it (so did Steven Pinker and his student who submitted it); I merely follow
in the footsteps of giants.

A.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Speaking of mastering syntax and grammar, here is a poser, my first
> encounter of which was in the movie "Charlie."
>
> Punctuate this sentence:
>
> That that is is that that is not is not is that it it is
>
> Not fair to Google it. Much more fun to take it stroke by stroke and
> puzzle it out. Apparently there are two solutions, the first of which is
> relatively obvious, given a few minutes' thought and parsing, the second
> being much more difficult. I remind you: no Googling allowed! Solve this
> linguistic puzzle on your own.
> ?Arthur
>



-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 28 00:41:58 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:41:58 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gcvum5akTsYQ2aqNXTxcemfEMONir0xAKFWkP=jap-yQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1604253556.105401412.1435470118066.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

:-)

Jim

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:31:47 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Jim,

>> each player has their own place.
Apparently you are also "creative" with the use of English syntax [?].
?
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 28 21:42:16 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 20:42:16 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <79BBBAA026714BF6A8D63D54771AC20C@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <1373699366.105888878.1435545736131.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Where did you find that word? I have honestly never seen it in print.

Jim

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:45:14 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Nonpareil; a true master of the art. :)

R
 

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:32 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows

Jim,

>> each player has their own place.
Apparently you are also "creative" with the use of English syntax [?].
?
Arthur
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 28 23:07:27 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 23:07:27 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
In-Reply-To: <1373699366.105888878.1435545736131.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1373699366.105888878.1435545736131.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5590C47F.2030004@earthlink.net>

On 2015-06-28 9:42 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Where did you find that word? I have honestly never seen it in print.

French for unrivalled

PB

-----

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:45:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
>
> Nonpareil; a true master of the art. :)
>
> R
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:32 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Free ISO Movie Player for Windows
>
> Jim,
>
>>> each player has their own place.
> Apparently you are also "creative" with the use of English syntax [?].
> ?
> Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 30 12:42:37 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:42:37 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Our future is Docker and CoreOS
In-Reply-To: <1435182633.15756634@f116.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <2030130875.107007183.1435686157856.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

We have all been listening to some of the chatter about Docker and CoreOS and many have been wondering how or even if it will affect us. The following article answers that question. Managed by the Linux Foundation, it seems that most of the major players, in the computer market today, are on-board with universal standards in implementation and design, in the new Open Container Project (OCP). It will be implemented on all platforms. Any of us who plan to be in the industry, in more than five years, better get up to speed...a very exciting development:

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/22/docker-coreos-google-microsoft-amazon-and-others-agree-to-develop-common-container-standard/#.vgfyyd:vsSD

Jim