From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 1 11:52:55 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 10:52:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2029017657.64606986.1430499175407.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk was applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three passes but one pass is very thorough: http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the laptop while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to set up a dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before I get to those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of all, I wiped all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition Manager. Then I restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was still there, and (since I wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I repeated the exercise and got the same result again. Then I went into the BIOS and had a look to see which hard disk was the default boot disk, only to find that I was unable to change that, for some reason (plus and minus didn't work to promote/demote the disks). So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin state: no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I cannot figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now understand that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my Windows 7 installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then reboot to see if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using the Debian installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to install Debian Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that Windows 7 is already installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, with no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps will fall naturally into place. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 1 15:43:06 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 16:43:06 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: <2029017657.64606986.1430499175407.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <2029017657.64606986.1430499175407.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Jim, I instead used EaseUS Partition Manager and opted for the "wipe disk with zeroes" and it worked. Fried everything in sight, and then I began again and so far everything has worked as hoped for: first a created partitions for ext4 and NTFS and then a Win7 install, and finally Debian 14, which caught the previous install and appropriately configured Grub to dual-boot, and now I'm a happy camper playing with old computers who have been taught new tricks. I'm beginning to think that it's only old farts who bother trying this stuff On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk was > applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three passes but > one pass is very thorough: http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the laptop > while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to set up a > dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before I get to > those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of all, I wiped > all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition Manager. Then I > restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was still there, and (since I > wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I repeated the exercise and got > the same result again. Then I went into the BIOS and had a look to see > which hard disk was the default boot disk, only to find that I was unable > to change that, for some reason (plus and minus didn't work to > promote/demote the disks). > > So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin state: > no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition > manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I cannot > figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now understand > that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my Windows 7 > installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then reboot to see > if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using the Debian > installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to install Debian > Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that Windows 7 is already > installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. > > First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, with > no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps will fall > naturally into place. > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From jbartow at winhaven.net Fri May 1 22:00:56 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 22:00:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls Message-ID: <015801d08484$3612b6d0$a2382470$@winhaven.net> Hi All, Does anyone know if there are Windows Shortcut keys that can mute a You Tube video playing in a browser? TIA John B From Accesspro at cox.net Sat May 2 09:35:22 2015 From: Accesspro at cox.net (B Heygood) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 07:35:22 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000801d084e5$38cd24d0$aa676e70$@cox.net> M to mute. K to pause. Win 8.1 Chrome browser. Bob Heygood -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:01 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls Importance: High Hi All, Does anyone know if there are Windows Shortcut keys that can mute a You Tube video playing in a browser? TIA John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Sat May 2 10:14:11 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 10:14:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls In-Reply-To: <000801d084e5$38cd24d0$aa676e70$@cox.net> References: <000801d084e5$38cd24d0$aa676e70$@cox.net> Message-ID: <01db01d084ea$a53c98d0$efb5ca70$@winhaven.net> Thanks! Is there a "play" key to use when you no longer want it muted? -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of B Heygood Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 9:35 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls M to mute. K to pause. Win 8.1 Chrome browser. Bob Heygood -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:01 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls Importance: High Hi All, Does anyone know if there are Windows Shortcut keys that can mute a You Tube video playing in a browser? TIA John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Accesspro at cox.net Sat May 2 10:22:49 2015 From: Accesspro at cox.net (B Heygood) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 08:22:49 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls In-Reply-To: References: <000801d084e5$38cd24d0$aa676e70$@cox.net> Message-ID: <001b01d084eb$d9e9e5f0$8dbdb1d0$@cox.net> Just pressing the same key seems to do that. A toggle. -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2015 8:14 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls Importance: High Thanks! Is there a "play" key to use when you no longer want it muted? -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of B Heygood Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 9:35 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls M to mute. K to pause. Win 8.1 Chrome browser. Bob Heygood -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:01 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] You Tube controls Importance: High Hi All, Does anyone know if there are Windows Shortcut keys that can mute a You Tube video playing in a browser? TIA John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 2 12:43:37 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 11:43:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <204750152.65400615.1430588617877.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: Oh no, that's not the case. There is a strong Maker, Hacker and Creator groups out there but it is true that they are not the main-stream. Most people today, just think of computers as no more complex than any other kitchen appliance and when they are proven not, its a problem. In the old days, I remember setting up dumb terminals so a user could get attached to the mainframe computer. The big revolution was when the PC happened. Now everyone could potentially have their own personal computing. That freedom is slowly being changed as more and more we are moving back to central computer systems that are running everything. I am of mixed opinion whether this is good or bad...there are pluses and minuses on both sides. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 1:43:06 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Jim, I instead used EaseUS Partition Manager and opted for the "wipe disk with zeroes" and it worked. Fried everything in sight, and then I began again and so far everything has worked as hoped for: first a created partitions for ext4 and NTFS and then a Win7 install, and finally Debian 14, which caught the previous install and appropriately configured Grub to dual-boot, and now I'm a happy camper playing with old computers who have been taught new tricks. I'm beginning to think that it's only old farts who bother trying this stuff On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk was > applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three passes but > one pass is very thorough: http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the laptop > while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to set up a > dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before I get to > those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of all, I wiped > all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition Manager. Then I > restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was still there, and (since I > wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I repeated the exercise and got > the same result again. Then I went into the BIOS and had a look to see > which hard disk was the default boot disk, only to find that I was unable > to change that, for some reason (plus and minus didn't work to > promote/demote the disks). > > So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin state: > no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition > manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I cannot > figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now understand > that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my Windows 7 > installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then reboot to see > if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using the Debian > installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to install Debian > Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that Windows 7 is already > installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. > > First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, with > no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps will fall > naturally into place. > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat May 2 12:56:10 2015 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 10:56:10 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: <204750152.65400615.1430588617877.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <204750152.65400615.1430588617877.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> I need to give away a couple towers. I'd like to delete all my files, and then wipe the empty space, but leave the OS and other core apps (AV, browsers etc.) in place. Is there a way to do that? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 10:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Hi Arthur: Oh no, that's not the case. There is a strong Maker, Hacker and Creator groups out there but it is true that they are not the main-stream. Most people today, just think of computers as no more complex than any other kitchen appliance and when they are proven not, its a problem. In the old days, I remember setting up dumb terminals so a user could get attached to the mainframe computer. The big revolution was when the PC happened. Now everyone could potentially have their own personal computing. That freedom is slowly being changed as more and more we are moving back to central computer systems that are running everything. I am of mixed opinion whether this is good or bad...there are pluses and minuses on both sides. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 1:43:06 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Jim, I instead used EaseUS Partition Manager and opted for the "wipe disk with zeroes" and it worked. Fried everything in sight, and then I began again and so far everything has worked as hoped for: first a created partitions for ext4 and NTFS and then a Win7 install, and finally Debian 14, which caught the previous install and appropriately configured Grub to dual-boot, and now I'm a happy camper playing with old computers who have been taught new tricks. I'm beginning to think that it's only old farts who bother trying this stuff On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk > was applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three > passes but one pass is very thorough: > http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the > laptop while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to > set up a dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before > I get to those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of > all, I wiped all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition > Manager. Then I restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was > still there, and (since I wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I > repeated the exercise and got the same result again. Then I went into > the BIOS and had a look to see which hard disk was the default boot > disk, only to find that I was unable to change that, for some reason > (plus and minus didn't work to promote/demote the disks). > > So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin state: > no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition > manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I > cannot figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now > understand that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my > Windows 7 installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then > reboot to see if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using > the Debian installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to > install Debian Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that > Windows 7 is already installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. > > First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, > with no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps > will fall naturally into place. > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Sat May 2 13:10:12 2015 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 18:10:12 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> References: <204750152.65400615.1430588617877.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>, <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC21219351@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk> I think cc cleaner can wipe free space Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?02/?05/?2015 06:57 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer I need to give away a couple towers. I'd like to delete all my files, and then wipe the empty space, but leave the OS and other core apps (AV, browsers etc.) in place. Is there a way to do that? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 10:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Hi Arthur: Oh no, that's not the case. There is a strong Maker, Hacker and Creator groups out there but it is true that they are not the main-stream. Most people today, just think of computers as no more complex than any other kitchen appliance and when they are proven not, its a problem. In the old days, I remember setting up dumb terminals so a user could get attached to the mainframe computer. The big revolution was when the PC happened. Now everyone could potentially have their own personal computing. That freedom is slowly being changed as more and more we are moving back to central computer systems that are running everything. I am of mixed opinion whether this is good or bad...there are pluses and minuses on both sides. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 1:43:06 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Jim, I instead used EaseUS Partition Manager and opted for the "wipe disk with zeroes" and it worked. Fried everything in sight, and then I began again and so far everything has worked as hoped for: first a created partitions for ext4 and NTFS and then a Win7 install, and finally Debian 14, which caught the previous install and appropriately configured Grub to dual-boot, and now I'm a happy camper playing with old computers who have been taught new tricks. I'm beginning to think that it's only old farts who bother trying this stuff On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk > was applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three > passes but one pass is very thorough: > http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the > laptop while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to > set up a dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before > I get to those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of > all, I wiped all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition > Manager. Then I restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was > still there, and (since I wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I > repeated the exercise and got the same result again. Then I went into > the BIOS and had a look to see which hard disk was the default boot > disk, only to find that I was unable to change that, for some reason > (plus and minus didn't work to promote/demote the disks). > > So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin state: > no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition > manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I > cannot figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now > understand that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my > Windows 7 installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then > reboot to see if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using > the Debian installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to > install Debian Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that > Windows 7 is already installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. > > First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, > with no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps > will fall naturally into place. > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat May 2 22:45:21 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 23:45:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC21219351@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <204750152.65400615.1430588617877.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC21219351@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: There's also EaseUS which is free and saved me. On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Martin Reid wrote: > I think cc cleaner can wipe free space > > Martin From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 3 14:42:02 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 13:42:02 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> Message-ID: <1391878881.66038119.1430682122687.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Rocky: I think you can remove everything of a sensitive nature, going through your Control Panel but it is hardly fast. I have found for the best results, I get my copy of the current OS DVDs, reformat and reinstall. Clean as it can be...if you are effectively dumping it, there is really no reason to waste any more time on it. OTOH, if there is a friend who needs a computer, start with the same initial process but add a host of excellent OSS products to it: LIbra Office, Skype, Google/FF and so on to their requirements. Also if there are no original OS disks available, I would just install Ubuntu and all the above mentioned OSS products...simple and stupid. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2015 10:56:10 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer I need to give away a couple towers. I'd like to delete all my files, and then wipe the empty space, but leave the OS and other core apps (AV, browsers etc.) in place. Is there a way to do that? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 10:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Hi Arthur: Oh no, that's not the case. There is a strong Maker, Hacker and Creator groups out there but it is true that they are not the main-stream. Most people today, just think of computers as no more complex than any other kitchen appliance and when they are proven not, its a problem. In the old days, I remember setting up dumb terminals so a user could get attached to the mainframe computer. The big revolution was when the PC happened. Now everyone could potentially have their own personal computing. That freedom is slowly being changed as more and more we are moving back to central computer systems that are running everything. I am of mixed opinion whether this is good or bad...there are pluses and minuses on both sides. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 1:43:06 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Jim, I instead used EaseUS Partition Manager and opted for the "wipe disk with zeroes" and it worked. Fried everything in sight, and then I began again and so far everything has worked as hoped for: first a created partitions for ext4 and NTFS and then a Win7 install, and finally Debian 14, which caught the previous install and appropriately configured Grub to dual-boot, and now I'm a happy camper playing with old computers who have been taught new tricks. I'm beginning to think that it's only old farts who bother trying this stuff On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk > was applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three > passes but one pass is very thorough: > http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the > laptop while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to > set up a dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before > I get to those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of > all, I wiped all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition > Manager. Then I restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was > still there, and (since I wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I > repeated the exercise and got the same result again. Then I went into > the BIOS and had a look to see which hard disk was the default boot > disk, only to find that I was unable to change that, for some reason > (plus and minus didn't work to promote/demote the disks). > > So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin state: > no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition > manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I > cannot figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now > understand that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my > Windows 7 installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then > reboot to see if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using > the Debian installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to > install Debian Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that > Windows 7 is already installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. > > First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, > with no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps > will fall naturally into place. > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 3 15:39:19 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 16:39:19 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: <1391878881.66038119.1430682122687.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> <1391878881.66038119.1430682122687.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: I figured it out. I used EaseUS Partition Manager and wiped everything and then it worked. Now I am a happy camper. Win7 Ultimate and Debian co-exist and now I'm happy. A. On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Rocky: > > I think you can remove everything of a sensitive nature, going through > your Control Panel but it is hardly fast. I have found for the best > results, I get my copy of the current OS DVDs, reformat and reinstall. > Clean as it can be...if you are effectively dumping it, there is really no > reason to waste any more time on it. OTOH, if there is a friend who needs a > computer, start with the same initial process but add a host of excellent > OSS products to it: LIbra Office, Skype, Google/FF and so on to their > requirements. Also if there are no original OS disks available, I would > just install Ubuntu and all the above mentioned OSS products...simple and > stupid. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rocky Smolin" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2015 10:56:10 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > I need to give away a couple towers. I'd like to delete all my files, and > then wipe the empty space, but leave the OS and other core apps (AV, > browsers etc.) in place. Is there a way to do that? > > r > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Jim Lawrence > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 10:44 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Hi Arthur: > > Oh no, that's not the case. There is a strong Maker, Hacker and Creator > groups out there but it is true that they are not the main-stream. Most > people today, just think of computers as no more complex than any other > kitchen appliance and when they are proven not, its a problem. > > In the old days, I remember setting up dumb terminals so a user could get > attached to the mainframe computer. The big revolution was when the PC > happened. Now everyone could potentially have their own personal computing. > That freedom is slowly being changed as more and more we are moving back to > central computer systems that are running everything. I am of mixed opinion > whether this is good or bad...there are pluses and minuses on both sides. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 1:43:06 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Jim, > > I instead used EaseUS Partition Manager and opted for the "wipe disk with > zeroes" and it worked. Fried everything in sight, and then I began again > and > so far everything has worked as hoped for: first a created partitions for > ext4 and NTFS and then a Win7 install, and finally Debian 14, which caught > the previous install and appropriately configured Grub to dual-boot, and > now > I'm a happy camper playing with old computers who have been taught new > tricks. > > I'm beginning to think that it's only old farts who bother trying this > stuff > > On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Hi Arthur: > > > > When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk > > was applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three > > passes but one pass is very thorough: > > http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arthur Fuller" > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM > > Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > > > Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the > > laptop while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to > > set up a dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before > > I get to those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of > > all, I wiped all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition > > Manager. Then I restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was > > still there, and (since I wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I > > repeated the exercise and got the same result again. Then I went into > > the BIOS and had a look to see which hard disk was the default boot > > disk, only to find that I was unable to change that, for some reason > > (plus and minus didn't work to promote/demote the disks). > > > > So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin > state: > > no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition > > manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I > > cannot figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now > > understand that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my > > Windows 7 installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then > > reboot to see if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using > > the Debian installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to > > install Debian Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that > > Windows 7 is already installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. > > > > First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, > > with no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps > > will fall naturally into place. > > > > > > -- > > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun May 3 16:19:17 2015 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:19:17 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: <1391878881.66038119.1430682122687.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> <1391878881.66038119.1430682122687.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Yeah, that would be the hot setup. But I didn't want to do that. I'm trying to find people who need a comp - kids, adults on a limited income - so I'd like to give them something that's ready to rock and roll. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 12:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Hi Rocky: I think you can remove everything of a sensitive nature, going through your Control Panel but it is hardly fast. I have found for the best results, I get my copy of the current OS DVDs, reformat and reinstall. Clean as it can be...if you are effectively dumping it, there is really no reason to waste any more time on it. OTOH, if there is a friend who needs a computer, start with the same initial process but add a host of excellent OSS products to it: LIbra Office, Skype, Google/FF and so on to their requirements. Also if there are no original OS disks available, I would just install Ubuntu and all the above mentioned OSS products...simple and stupid. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2015 10:56:10 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer I need to give away a couple towers. I'd like to delete all my files, and then wipe the empty space, but leave the OS and other core apps (AV, browsers etc.) in place. Is there a way to do that? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 10:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Hi Arthur: Oh no, that's not the case. There is a strong Maker, Hacker and Creator groups out there but it is true that they are not the main-stream. Most people today, just think of computers as no more complex than any other kitchen appliance and when they are proven not, its a problem. In the old days, I remember setting up dumb terminals so a user could get attached to the mainframe computer. The big revolution was when the PC happened. Now everyone could potentially have their own personal computing. That freedom is slowly being changed as more and more we are moving back to central computer systems that are running everything. I am of mixed opinion whether this is good or bad...there are pluses and minuses on both sides. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 1:43:06 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Jim, I instead used EaseUS Partition Manager and opted for the "wipe disk with zeroes" and it worked. Fried everything in sight, and then I began again and so far everything has worked as hoped for: first a created partitions for ext4 and NTFS and then a Win7 install, and finally Debian 14, which caught the previous install and appropriately configured Grub to dual-boot, and now I'm a happy camper playing with old computers who have been taught new tricks. I'm beginning to think that it's only old farts who bother trying this stuff On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk > was applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three > passes but one pass is very thorough: > http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the > laptop while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to > set up a dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before > I get to those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of > all, I wiped all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition > Manager. Then I restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was > still there, and (since I wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I > repeated the exercise and got the same result again. Then I went into > the BIOS and had a look to see which hard disk was the default boot > disk, only to find that I was unable to change that, for some reason > (plus and minus didn't work to promote/demote the disks). > > So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin state: > no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition > manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I > cannot figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now > understand that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my > Windows 7 installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then > reboot to see if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using > the Debian installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to > install Debian Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that > Windows 7 is already installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. > > First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, > with no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps > will fall naturally into place. > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 3 16:31:55 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 15:31:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: <1430339420140.86525@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1488762953.66114249.1430688715489.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: As you would suspect I would recommend a Linux solution, the Ubuntu Rescue Mix... :http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06652 ...download the ISO and write same to a boot CD/DVD and run the SATA, interrogation app from the desktop and fixes via the LIVE CD...no changes to the host computer's OS is done. I have had no first hand experience but an acquaintance had a successful recovery. GParted is another universal application that can fix any partition, from EXT4 to NTFS (Note that GParted does not currently support the Ubuntu (15.04)...but you can always download the latest source and then configure and compile it yourself.) ;-): http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows I have heard that that the company Yodot has some excellent SATA recovery software...It costs about $40: http://www.yodot.com/hard-drive-recovery/from-damaged-sata-hard-drive.html HTH Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:30:20 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all I have a 2 TB SATA disk which has gone bad. It is marked in Windows' Disk Manager with "Error" and "at risk". Decades ago I would have fired up SpinRite, but would that be of any use today? It's a USD 90 purchase. Or would you have other/better recommendations? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Sun May 3 21:17:03 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 21:17:03 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer In-Reply-To: <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> References: <204750152.65400615.1430588617877.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <77FBFD57C71647A08D137AF1166542E1@HAL9007> Message-ID: <02b601d08610$69a51690$3cef43b0$@winhaven.net> Not necessarily. -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 12:56 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer I need to give away a couple towers. I'd like to delete all my files, and then wipe the empty space, but leave the OS and other core apps (AV, browsers etc.) in place. Is there a way to do that? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 10:44 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Hi Arthur: Oh no, that's not the case. There is a strong Maker, Hacker and Creator groups out there but it is true that they are not the main-stream. Most people today, just think of computers as no more complex than any other kitchen appliance and when they are proven not, its a problem. In the old days, I remember setting up dumb terminals so a user could get attached to the mainframe computer. The big revolution was when the PC happened. Now everyone could potentially have their own personal computing. That freedom is slowly being changed as more and more we are moving back to central computer systems that are running everything. I am of mixed opinion whether this is good or bad...there are pluses and minuses on both sides. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 1:43:06 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer Jim, I instead used EaseUS Partition Manager and opted for the "wipe disk with zeroes" and it worked. Fried everything in sight, and then I began again and so far everything has worked as hoped for: first a created partitions for ext4 and NTFS and then a Win7 install, and finally Debian 14, which caught the previous install and appropriately configured Grub to dual-boot, and now I'm a happy camper playing with old computers who have been taught new tricks. I'm beginning to think that it's only old farts who bother trying this stuff On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > When working for various financial institutions the product killdisk > was applied to all decommissioned equipment. We usually ran three > passes but one pass is very thorough: > http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:22:32 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] How to totally wipe everything on a computer > > Fortunately I have two computers, so I can continue working with the > laptop while trying to re-configure the ancient tower. The goal is to > set up a dual boot into the tower. I'm having several problems. Before > I get to those, the box has two hard disks, 80GB and a 250GB. First of > all, I wiped all partitions from both disks, using EaseUS Partition > Manager. Then I restarted the computer, but to my dismay Grub was > still there, and (since I wiped the disk) failed to find Debian. So I > repeated the exercise and got the same result again. Then I went into > the BIOS and had a look to see which hard disk was the default boot > disk, only to find that I was unable to change that, for some reason > (plus and minus didn't work to promote/demote the disks). > > So, what I'd like to try next is to restore the tower to its virgin state: > no partitions, no MBR, etc. But it appears that the EaseUS partition > manager does not fry the MBR, and consequently Grub still loads. I > cannot figure out why this happens, but anyway I want to fix it. I now > understand that once I finally fix this problem, I should boot from my > Windows 7 installation disk, install Windows and its updates, and then > reboot to see if all is well. If all is well, then I'll reboot using > the Debian installation disk, point to the other disk as the place to > install Debian Linux 14, and then (in theory) Grub will detect that > Windows 7 is already installed and offer to add it to the Grub boot menu. > > First things first: how can I restore this tower to its virgin state, > with no MBR at all? If I can get there, then perhaps the other steps > will fall naturally into place. > > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 4 20:03:04 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 19:03:04 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Who has installed the latest Visual Studio? In-Reply-To: <1426754968.754580806@f387.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1407972119.67035907.1430787784839.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> As is common knowledge, the new Microsoft Visual Studio is out on all platforms. https://code.visualstudio.com/Download When I heard this I was absolutely amazed at the speed this software roll out was accomplished. The process rather than years took weeks: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/microsoft-releases-free-visual-studio-code-and-visual-studio-2015-rc Well, now I know how it was accomplished and it has been accomplished by using Open Source and it now all makes sense: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/microsofts-new-code-editor-is-built-on-googles-chromium What Microsoft didn?t say when announcing the new editor was how it built Visual Studio Code. In a move that might seem a little surprising, given the regular animosity between the two companies, the editor is built on top of Chromium, the open source version of Google?s Chrome browser. The app is built using an open source desktop application framework developed by GitHub called Electron. Electron uses HTML5, JavaScript, and other Web technologies, using Chromium for presentation, and io.js (a fork of node.js) to tie it all together. This is stellar and actually very smart. Microsoft may have been late to the game but they are learning fast. Jim From df.waters at outlook.com Mon May 4 20:20:28 2015 From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 20:20:28 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Who has installed the latest Visual Studio? In-Reply-To: <1407972119.67035907.1430787784839.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1426754968.754580806@f387.i.mail.ru> <1407972119.67035907.1430787784839.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Hi Jim, Actually VS 2015 is at Release Candidate (RC), not Release to Manufacturing (RTM). When it's at RTM stage, that's when it finally becomes stable and you can use it for production apps. Look for it later this summer. What MS is releasing now is a new code editor named, TaDa! Visual Studio Code. As MS loves to do, they confuse us all with their naming quirks. VS code is not part of VS, and not the other way around either. VS Code is just for editing code - for example you cannot create a new project. HTH! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 8:03 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Who has installed the latest Visual Studio? As is common knowledge, the new Microsoft Visual Studio is out on all platforms. https://code.visualstudio.com/Download When I heard this I was absolutely amazed at the speed this software roll out was accomplished. The process rather than years took weeks: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/microsoft-releases-free-visual-studio-code-and-visual-studio-2015-rc Well, now I know how it was accomplished and it has been accomplished by using Open Source and it now all makes sense: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/microsofts-new-code-editor-is-built-on-googles-chromium What Microsoft didn?t say when announcing the new editor was how it built Visual Studio Code. In a move that might seem a little surprising, given the regular animosity between the two companies, the editor is built on top of Chromium, the open source version of Google?s Chrome browser. The app is built using an open source desktop application framework developed by GitHub called Electron. Electron uses HTML5, JavaScript, and other Web technologies, using Chromium for presentation, and io.js (a fork of node.js) to tie it all together. This is stellar and actually very smart. Microsoft may have been late to the game but they are learning fast. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 5 02:19:46 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 01:19:46 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Who has installed the latest Visual Studio? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <407259364.67198785.1430810386174.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Dan: It does sound odd to me but MS has been doing this for years but OTOH, the simple code editor with intellisense and formatting may be all that is needed. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Waters" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 6:20:28 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Who has installed the latest Visual Studio? Hi Jim, Actually VS 2015 is at Release Candidate (RC), not Release to Manufacturing (RTM). When it's at RTM stage, that's when it finally becomes stable and you can use it for production apps. Look for it later this summer. What MS is releasing now is a new code editor named, TaDa! Visual Studio Code. As MS loves to do, they confuse us all with their naming quirks. VS code is not part of VS, and not the other way around either. VS Code is just for editing code - for example you cannot create a new project. HTH! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 8:03 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Who has installed the latest Visual Studio? As is common knowledge, the new Microsoft Visual Studio is out on all platforms. https://code.visualstudio.com/Download When I heard this I was absolutely amazed at the speed this software roll out was accomplished. The process rather than years took weeks: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/microsoft-releases-free-visual-studio-code-and-visual-studio-2015-rc Well, now I know how it was accomplished and it has been accomplished by using Open Source and it now all makes sense: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/microsofts-new-code-editor-is-built-on-googles-chromium What Microsoft didn?t say when announcing the new editor was how it built Visual Studio Code. In a move that might seem a little surprising, given the regular animosity between the two companies, the editor is built on top of Chromium, the open source version of Google?s Chrome browser. The app is built using an open source desktop application framework developed by GitHub called Electron. Electron uses HTML5, JavaScript, and other Web technologies, using Chromium for presentation, and io.js (a fork of node.js) to tie it all together. This is stellar and actually very smart. Microsoft may have been late to the game but they are learning fast. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Tue May 5 03:49:18 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 08:49:18 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Message-ID: Hi Jim and John I launched SpinRite and started a repair. But when it had calculated (still incrementing) the time to 16000(!) hours, I realized this was probably not the route. The drive is 2 TB (1.8 net), one partion, and 1 TB data. Problem is, that the drive is alive but transfer speed is extremely slow. You could think, you could just xcopy the files, but it doesn't work because of the slow transfer which, ultimately, causes Windows to time out. So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 3. maj 2015 23:32 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: As you would suspect I would recommend a Linux solution, the Ubuntu Rescue Mix... :http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06652 ...download the ISO and write same to a boot CD/DVD and run the SATA, interrogation app from the desktop and fixes via the LIVE CD...no changes to the host computer's OS is done. I have had no first hand experience but an acquaintance had a successful recovery. GParted is another universal application that can fix any partition, from EXT4 to NTFS (Note that GParted does not currently support the Ubuntu (15.04)...but you can always download the latest source and then configure and compile it yourself.) ;-): http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows I have heard that that the company Yodot has some excellent SATA recovery software...It costs about $40: http://www.yodot.com/hard-drive-recovery/from-damaged-sata-hard-drive.html HTH Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:30:20 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all I have a 2 TB SATA disk which has gone bad. It is marked in Windows' Disk Manager with "Error" and "at risk". Decades ago I would have fired up SpinRite, but would that be of any use today? It's a USD 90 purchase. Or would you have other/better recommendations? /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 5 16:24:00 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 15:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <964358705.67732549.1430861040797.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: That is not good... I know that large size drives can be an issue...especially with spinrite as the software has not been updated in years...is it still only 32bit? R-Studio software is supposed to be the best data repair and recovery application for large drives. I have never needed to use it but I understand it works on all Operating Systems and drive format types. It is about $80: http://www.r-studio.com/#rstudio There is a demo which may give some some idea of the software's performance: http://www.r-studio.com/Data_Recovery_Download.shtml Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 1:49:18 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim and John I launched SpinRite and started a repair. But when it had calculated (still incrementing) the time to 16000(!) hours, I realized this was probably not the route. The drive is 2 TB (1.8 net), one partion, and 1 TB data. Problem is, that the drive is alive but transfer speed is extremely slow. You could think, you could just xcopy the files, but it doesn't work because of the slow transfer which, ultimately, causes Windows to time out. So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 3. maj 2015 23:32 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: As you would suspect I would recommend a Linux solution, the Ubuntu Rescue Mix... :http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06652 ...download the ISO and write same to a boot CD/DVD and run the SATA, interrogation app from the desktop and fixes via the LIVE CD...no changes to the host computer's OS is done. I have had no first hand experience but an acquaintance had a successful recovery. GParted is another universal application that can fix any partition, from EXT4 to NTFS (Note that GParted does not currently support the Ubuntu (15.04)...but you can always download the latest source and then configure and compile it yourself.) ;-): http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows I have heard that that the company Yodot has some excellent SATA recovery software...It costs about $40: http://www.yodot.com/hard-drive-recovery/from-damaged-sata-hard-drive.html HTH Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:30:20 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all I have a 2 TB SATA disk which has gone bad. It is marked in Windows' Disk Manager with "Error" and "at risk". Decades ago I would have fired up SpinRite, but would that be of any use today? It's a USD 90 purchase. Or would you have other/better recommendations? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed May 6 04:32:06 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 09:32:06 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Message-ID: Hi Jim Thanks, I'll keep that as a possible next step. However, Yodot is chugging happily along - it has passed the 1% mark with 15 GB copied. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 5. maj 2015 23:24 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: That is not good... I know that large size drives can be an issue...especially with spinrite as the software has not been updated in years...is it still only 32bit? R-Studio software is supposed to be the best data repair and recovery application for large drives. I have never needed to use it but I understand it works on all Operating Systems and drive format types. It is about $80: http://www.r-studio.com/#rstudio There is a demo which may give some some idea of the software's performance: http://www.r-studio.com/Data_Recovery_Download.shtml Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 1:49:18 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim and John I launched SpinRite and started a repair. But when it had calculated (still incrementing) the time to 16000(!) hours, I realized this was probably not the route. The drive is 2 TB (1.8 net), one partion, and 1 TB data. Problem is, that the drive is alive but transfer speed is extremely slow. You could think, you could just xcopy the files, but it doesn't work because of the slow transfer which, ultimately, causes Windows to time out. So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 3. maj 2015 23:32 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: As you would suspect I would recommend a Linux solution, the Ubuntu Rescue Mix... :http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06652 ...download the ISO and write same to a boot CD/DVD and run the SATA, interrogation app from the desktop and fixes via the LIVE CD...no changes to the host computer's OS is done. I have had no first hand experience but an acquaintance had a successful recovery. GParted is another universal application that can fix any partition, from EXT4 to NTFS (Note that GParted does not currently support the Ubuntu (15.04)...but you can always download the latest source and then configure and compile it yourself.) ;-): http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows I have heard that that the company Yodot has some excellent SATA recovery software...It costs about $40: http://www.yodot.com/hard-drive-recovery/from-damaged-sata-hard-drive.html HTH Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:30:20 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all I have a 2 TB SATA disk which has gone bad. It is marked in Windows' Disk Manager with "Error" and "at risk". Decades ago I would have fired up SpinRite, but would that be of any use today? It's a USD 90 purchase. Or would you have other/better recommendations? /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 6 10:28:11 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 09:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Help...This webpage is not available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1211302854.68259956.1430926091213.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: I have been seeing the following error...has anyone else? "This webpage is not available" ...and error message: "A secure connection cannot be established because this site uses an unsupported protocol." I get the following error going to legitimate sites like: roundcube.net Some Google searches have suggested that it represents a hacked router, some have said that the new version of Chrome has disabled SSL v3, some have said that the IP address has been redirected. Here is a link from the message from Chrome: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95617?hl=en-GB Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 6 11:08:52 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 10:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1530370876.68302803.1430928532727.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: For those interested in a full enterprise level Groupware, used by companies like IBM and Redhat, check out the following offering by Kolabs: https://kolab.org This system is OS but can be hosted on Kolab servers within Switzerland (because of the countries laws and rights on encryption, security and privacy) or hosted on your own servers. It is a fairly recent offering, two or three years, so it is not currently well known (I listened to a podcast this morning with one of the developers). The application can be used by one person, "Mom and Pop" type business or used by ten thousand...it fully scales up to virtually any size. The program is being used in many corporations and government offices. The application has clients for the major distribution like, Windows, Apple, Linux and Android...and can import and export data to all the other competing programs like MS Exchange and Zimbra... Of course, there are training programs, online/phone support, email help and forums available...and even an online demo version for playing with. So if anyone is thinking of upgrading their mail and groupware services this product is well worth investigating. Jim From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed May 6 11:42:31 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 11:42:31 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Message-ID: <00e201d0881b$a5fb0390$f1f10ab0$@winhaven.net> Given a recent thread about hard drive issues I thought this may be of some interest to some of you. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/malware-destroy-hard-drive.html?utm_source= feedburner &utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+S ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.933.kp0aof74zx.jc4 From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 6 11:42:29 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 10:42:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1158864008.68332519.1430930549078.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: Excellent...but I am laughing for sure. A couple of years ago I revived a clients server hard drive after a hard down using Spinrite. It ran for a week but amazing all the important data was recovered. Good luck and keep me posted as I would like to hear just how long the process took...for the record that is. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 2:32:06 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Thanks, I'll keep that as a possible next step. However, Yodot is chugging happily along - it has passed the 1% mark with 15 GB copied. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 5. maj 2015 23:24 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: That is not good... I know that large size drives can be an issue...especially with spinrite as the software has not been updated in years...is it still only 32bit? R-Studio software is supposed to be the best data repair and recovery application for large drives. I have never needed to use it but I understand it works on all Operating Systems and drive format types. It is about $80: http://www.r-studio.com/#rstudio There is a demo which may give some some idea of the software's performance: http://www.r-studio.com/Data_Recovery_Download.shtml Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 1:49:18 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim and John I launched SpinRite and started a repair. But when it had calculated (still incrementing) the time to 16000(!) hours, I realized this was probably not the route. The drive is 2 TB (1.8 net), one partion, and 1 TB data. Problem is, that the drive is alive but transfer speed is extremely slow. You could think, you could just xcopy the files, but it doesn't work because of the slow transfer which, ultimately, causes Windows to time out. So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 3. maj 2015 23:32 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: As you would suspect I would recommend a Linux solution, the Ubuntu Rescue Mix... :http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06652 ...download the ISO and write same to a boot CD/DVD and run the SATA, interrogation app from the desktop and fixes via the LIVE CD...no changes to the host computer's OS is done. I have had no first hand experience but an acquaintance had a successful recovery. GParted is another universal application that can fix any partition, from EXT4 to NTFS (Note that GParted does not currently support the Ubuntu (15.04)...but you can always download the latest source and then configure and compile it yourself.) ;-): http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows I have heard that that the company Yodot has some excellent SATA recovery software...It costs about $40: http://www.yodot.com/hard-drive-recovery/from-damaged-sata-hard-drive.html HTH Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:30:20 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all I have a 2 TB SATA disk which has gone bad. It is marked in Windows' Disk Manager with "Error" and "at risk". Decades ago I would have fired up SpinRite, but would that be of any use today? It's a USD 90 purchase. Or would you have other/better recommendations? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 6 13:40:32 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 12:40:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer In-Reply-To: <00e201d0881b$a5fb0390$f1f10ab0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <1127444052.68432512.1430937632460.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Our government at work...sign. A number of government states created such a piece of malware and now it is out there for everyone to use. A very interesting article. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:42:31 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Given a recent thread about hard drive issues I thought this may be of some interest to some of you. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/malware-destroy-hard-drive.html?utm_source= feedburner &utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+S ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.933.kp0aof74zx.jc4 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 6 13:51:03 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 12:51:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer In-Reply-To: <1127444052.68432512.1430937632460.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <659285136.68441510.1430938263975.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> PS: I would bet that Kaspersky Labs has a fix for this. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:40:32 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Our government at work...sign. A number of government states created such a piece of malware and now it is out there for everyone to use. A very interesting article. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:42:31 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Given a recent thread about hard drive issues I thought this may be of some interest to some of you. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/malware-destroy-hard-drive.html?utm_source= feedburner &utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+S ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.933.kp0aof74zx.jc4 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed May 6 14:42:59 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 14:42:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer In-Reply-To: <659285136.68441510.1430938263975.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1127444052.68432512.1430937632460.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <659285136.68441510.1430938263975.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Lol. I remember when Sunbelt Software pioneered sandboxing suspicious items (Vipre's behavior analysis techniques). It is now a pervasive means of preventative security in many AVs. I guess every security measure can be overcome when the money is good enough. It begs the question will these destroyers automatically detect VMs as something to freak out about? -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 1:51 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer PS: I would bet that Kaspersky Labs has a fix for this. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:40:32 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Our government at work...sign. A number of government states created such a piece of malware and now it is out there for everyone to use. A very interesting article. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:42:31 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Given a recent thread about hard drive issues I thought this may be of some interest to some of you. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/malware-destroy-hard-drive.html?utm_source= feedburner &utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+S ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.933.kp0aof74zx.jc4 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 6 15:11:22 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 14:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1400587237.68504289.1430943082536.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> I would guess until these type of malware becomes more common place we will get to see how they actually work. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:42:59 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Lol. I remember when Sunbelt Software pioneered sandboxing suspicious items (Vipre's behavior analysis techniques). It is now a pervasive means of preventative security in many AVs. I guess every security measure can be overcome when the money is good enough. It begs the question will these destroyers automatically detect VMs as something to freak out about? -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 1:51 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer PS: I would bet that Kaspersky Labs has a fix for this. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:40:32 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Our government at work...sign. A number of government states created such a piece of malware and now it is out there for everyone to use. A very interesting article. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:42:31 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Given a recent thread about hard drive issues I thought this may be of some interest to some of you. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/malware-destroy-hard-drive.html?utm_source= feedburner &utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+S ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.933.kp0aof74zx.jc4 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed May 6 16:53:25 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 16:53:25 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer In-Reply-To: <1400587237.68504289.1430943082536.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1400587237.68504289.1430943082536.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <019301d08847$14429db0$3cc7d910$@winhaven.net> Yay, not -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 3:11 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer I would guess until these type of malware becomes more common place we will get to see how they actually work. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:42:59 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Lol. I remember when Sunbelt Software pioneered sandboxing suspicious items (Vipre's behavior analysis techniques). It is now a pervasive means of preventative security in many AVs. I guess every security measure can be overcome when the money is good enough. It begs the question will these destroyers automatically detect VMs as something to freak out about? -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 1:51 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer PS: I would bet that Kaspersky Labs has a fix for this. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:40:32 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Our government at work...sign. A number of government states created such a piece of malware and now it is out there for everyone to use. A very interesting article. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:42:31 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Hard Drive destroyer Given a recent thread about hard drive issues I thought this may be of some interest to some of you. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/malware-destroy-hard-drive.html?utm_source= feedburner &utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+S ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.933.kp0aof74zx.jc4 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed May 6 17:08:38 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 17:08:38 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Message-ID: <019401d08849$347ef4f0$9d7cded0$@winhaven.net> Hi All, I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? TIA John From eptept at gmail.com Wed May 6 17:22:37 2015 From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 18:22:37 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone In-Reply-To: <019401d08849$347ef4f0$9d7cded0$@winhaven.net> References: <019401d08849$347ef4f0$9d7cded0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: Why Windows? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, John R Bartow wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? > > > > TIA > > John > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed May 6 17:40:47 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 17:40:47 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone In-Reply-To: References: <019401d08849$347ef4f0$9d7cded0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <01a601d0884d$b2142b70$163c8250$@winhaven.net> Because I want to have my phone the same as my tablet the same as my laptop the same as my desktop :-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:23 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Why Windows? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, John R Bartow wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? > > > > TIA > > John > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at gmail.com Wed May 6 18:04:01 2015 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 19:04:01 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Help...This webpage is not available In-Reply-To: <1211302854.68259956.1430926091213.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1211302854.68259956.1430926091213.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: I had no problems getting to the page with Chrome on Android. B On May 6, 2015 11:28 AM, "Jim Lawrence" wrote: > Hi All: > > I have been seeing the following error...has anyone else? > > "This webpage is not available" > > ...and error message: > > "A secure connection cannot be established because this site uses an > unsupported protocol." > > I get the following error going to legitimate sites like: roundcube.net > > Some Google searches have suggested that it represents a hacked router, > some have said that the new version of Chrome has disabled SSL v3, some > have said that the IP address has been redirected. > > Here is a link from the message from Chrome: > > https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95617?hl=en-GB > > Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From df.waters at outlook.com Wed May 6 19:12:56 2015 From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 19:12:56 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone In-Reply-To: <019401d08849$347ef4f0$9d7cded0$@winhaven.net> References: <019401d08849$347ef4f0$9d7cded0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: Hi John, This month MS will release a Lumia 640 (5") and 640XL (5.7"). Both have great specs; the 640XL has better cameras. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/search/?action=siteSearch&qt=lumia+640 &type=Product&weight=products >From what I've read, AT&T will have the 640 and 640XL, while for now, T-Mobile will only have the 640 and will get the 640XL sometime later. I already have T-Mobile so I'm going to wait till they also have the 640XL. I am also sticking with the MS Lumia phones for the same reason you are - compatibility across all my devices. And I suspect that the compatibility will get better when Windows 10 is released. Good Luck! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:09 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Importance: High Hi All, I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? TIA John _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 6 22:29:29 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 21:29:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone In-Reply-To: <019401d08849$347ef4f0$9d7cded0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <22913914.68786915.1430969369056.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> The only smartphone with a 41 megapixel camera... http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/mobile/phone/lumia1020 Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 3:08:38 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Hi All, I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? TIA John _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 7 00:12:01 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 23:12:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Help...This webpage is not available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1541556601.68834938.1430975521588.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Brian: It seems that this problem was only related to one computer...I have no idea why...it worries me. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Carbonnell" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 4:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Help...This webpage is not available I had no problems getting to the page with Chrome on Android. B On May 6, 2015 11:28 AM, "Jim Lawrence" wrote: > Hi All: > > I have been seeing the following error...has anyone else? > > "This webpage is not available" > > ...and error message: > > "A secure connection cannot be established because this site uses an > unsupported protocol." > > I get the following error going to legitimate sites like: roundcube.net > > Some Google searches have suggested that it represents a hacked router, > some have said that the new version of Chrome has disabled SSL v3, some > have said that the IP address has been redirected. > > Here is a link from the message from Chrome: > > https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95617?hl=en-GB > > Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Thu May 7 02:26:46 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 07:26:46 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Message-ID: Hi John I have a Lumia 925 and wife a 820, both with the optional wireless charging which is an underrated feature - once you have get used to this, you feel sorry for the old-timerss struggling with plugs and cables. Both are out in newer models, but the real killer model is the 630/640 series at such low prices that you can get four of these for a single decent Android thing. I think you just have to decide for what features you wish. None of the Lumias will let you down. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 7. maj 2015 00:41 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Prioritet: H?j Because I want to have my phone the same as my tablet the same as my laptop the same as my desktop :-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:23 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Why Windows? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, John R Bartow wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? > > TIA > > John From jbartow at winhaven.net Thu May 7 10:40:53 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 10:40:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone In-Reply-To: References: <019401d08849$347ef4f0$9d7cded0$@winhaven.net> Message-ID: <029701d088dc$33e4ce00$9bae6a00$@winhaven.net> Thanks for the info Dan! -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 7:13 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Hi John, This month MS will release a Lumia 640 (5") and 640XL (5.7"). Both have great specs; the 640XL has better cameras. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/search/?action=siteSearch&qt=lumia+640 &type=Product&weight=products >From what I've read, AT&T will have the 640 and 640XL, while for now, T-Mobile will only have the 640 and will get the 640XL sometime later. I already have T-Mobile so I'm going to wait till they also have the 640XL. I am also sticking with the MS Lumia phones for the same reason you are - compatibility across all my devices. And I suspect that the compatibility will get better when Windows 10 is released. Good Luck! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:09 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Importance: High Hi All, I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? TIA John _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Thu May 7 10:50:55 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 10:50:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <029801d088dd$9ada6ba0$d08f42e0$@winhaven.net> Hi Gustav, I will be using a second tier provider now so hopefully they can get one of these for me. Thank you! John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 2:27 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Hi John I have a Lumia 925 and wife a 820, both with the optional wireless charging which is an underrated feature - once you have get used to this, you feel sorry for the old-timerss struggling with plugs and cables. Both are out in newer models, but the real killer model is the 630/640 series at such low prices that you can get four of these for a single decent Android thing. I think you just have to decide for what features you wish. None of the Lumias will let you down. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 7. maj 2015 00:41 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Prioritet: H?j Because I want to have my phone the same as my tablet the same as my laptop the same as my desktop :-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:23 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Why Windows? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, John R Bartow wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? > > TIA > > John _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 7 11:49:38 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 10:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupware In-Reply-To: <1530370876.68302803.1430928532727.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <220355893.69189326.1431017378921.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: PS: Kolabs has announced that they now have a client that allows Outlook to connect to their Kolab (exchange like) mail servers. The client is totally Open Source. They also have capability to import all the content from an existing Exchange server into their own servers, or Kolab can work in conjunction with an operational Exchange server or just use the Exchange server's database as their own. This of course means that if a clients wishes to upgrade their system, does not want to continue using an old ES version, want to use the ES but have access to extended feature of Kolabs or want to slowly migrate to their mail system/groupware to a single application; those options are now available. I have spoken to a friend who wants to work together to setup a test-bed, at a government office, with a Kolab mail server/groupware. The Kolab tech department has promised to help in project...it promises to be a lot fun. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:08:52 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupware Hi All: For those interested in a full enterprise level Groupware, used by companies like IBM and Redhat, check out the following offering by Kolabs: https://kolab.org This system is OS but can be hosted on Kolab servers within Switzerland (because of the countries laws and rights on encryption, security and privacy) or hosted on your own servers. It is a fairly recent offering, two or three years, so it is not currently well known (I listened to a podcast this morning with one of the developers). The application can be used by one person, "Mom and Pop" type business or used by ten thousand...it fully scales up to virtually any size. The program is being used in many corporations and government offices. The application has clients for the major distribution like, Windows, Apple, Linux and Android...and can import and export data to all the other competing programs like MS Exchange and Zimbra... Of course, there are training programs, online/phone support, email help and forums available...and even an online demo version for playing with. So if anyone is thinking of upgrading their mail and groupware services this product is well worth investigating. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Thu May 7 15:55:44 2015 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 16:55:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupware In-Reply-To: <220355893.69189326.1431017378921.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <220355893.69189326.1431017378921.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <554BD150.3040100@torchlake.com> We will be eagerly awaiting your report on how that goes. TNF Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 On 5/7/2015 12:49 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi All: > > PS: Kolabs has announced that they now have a client that allows Outlook to connect to their Kolab (exchange like) mail servers. The client is totally Open Source. They also have capability to import all the content from an existing Exchange server into their own servers, or Kolab can work in conjunction with an operational Exchange server or just use the Exchange server's database as their own. > > This of course means that if a clients wishes to upgrade their system, does not want to continue using an old ES version, want to use the ES but have access to extended feature of Kolabs or want to slowly migrate to their mail system/groupware to a single application; those options are now available. > > I have spoken to a friend who wants to work together to setup a test-bed, at a government office, with a Kolab mail server/groupware. The Kolab tech department has promised to help in project...it promises to be a lot fun. :-) > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Lawrence" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:08:52 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupware > > Hi All: > > For those interested in a full enterprise level Groupware, used by companies like IBM and Redhat, check out the following offering by Kolabs: > > https://kolab.org > > This system is OS but can be hosted on Kolab servers within Switzerland (because of the countries laws and rights on encryption, security and privacy) or hosted on your own servers. It is a fairly recent offering, two or three years, so it is not currently well known (I listened to a podcast this morning with one of the developers). The application can be used by one person, "Mom and Pop" type business or used by ten thousand...it fully scales up to virtually any size. The program is being used in many corporations and government offices. The application has clients for the major distribution like, Windows, Apple, Linux and Android...and can import and export data to all the other competing programs like MS Exchange and Zimbra... > > Of course, there are training programs, online/phone support, email help and forums available...and even an online demo version for playing with. > > So if anyone is thinking of upgrading their mail and groupware services this product is well worth investigating. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 7 20:11:47 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 19:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupware In-Reply-To: <554BD150.3040100@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <375277431.69574124.1431047507520.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Tina: We probably wouldn't get a time to play until August when most of the workers are off on holidays. In the meantime we will try and have a test site, at our homes up and running before that. It is interesting to note that Munich, Germany totally switched to Kolab Groupware last year...over 15 thousand workstations. Our ambitions are much more humble but... I wonder if Lembit Soobik is still around as he might be able to provide some local insight. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Norris Fields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 1:55:44 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Groupware We will be eagerly awaiting your report on how that goes. TNF Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 On 5/7/2015 12:49 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi All: > > PS: Kolabs has announced that they now have a client that allows Outlook to connect to their Kolab (exchange like) mail servers. The client is totally Open Source. They also have capability to import all the content from an existing Exchange server into their own servers, or Kolab can work in conjunction with an operational Exchange server or just use the Exchange server's database as their own. > > This of course means that if a clients wishes to upgrade their system, does not want to continue using an old ES version, want to use the ES but have access to extended feature of Kolabs or want to slowly migrate to their mail system/groupware to a single application; those options are now available. > > I have spoken to a friend who wants to work together to setup a test-bed, at a government office, with a Kolab mail server/groupware. The Kolab tech department has promised to help in project...it promises to be a lot fun. :-) > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Lawrence" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:08:52 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Groupware > > Hi All: > > For those interested in a full enterprise level Groupware, used by companies like IBM and Redhat, check out the following offering by Kolabs: > > https://kolab.org > > This system is OS but can be hosted on Kolab servers within Switzerland (because of the countries laws and rights on encryption, security and privacy) or hosted on your own servers. It is a fairly recent offering, two or three years, so it is not currently well known (I listened to a podcast this morning with one of the developers). The application can be used by one person, "Mom and Pop" type business or used by ten thousand...it fully scales up to virtually any size. The program is being used in many corporations and government offices. The application has clients for the major distribution like, Windows, Apple, Linux and Android...and can import and export data to all the other competing programs like MS Exchange and Zimbra... > > Of course, there are training programs, online/phone support, email help and forums available...and even an online demo version for playing with. > > So if anyone is thinking of upgrading their mail and groupware services this product is well worth investigating. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 8 14:23:41 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 13:23:41 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Powershell In-Reply-To: <220355893.69189326.1431017378921.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1676663036.70169035.1431113021992.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> You can now even use Microsoft Powershell on Linux: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/powershell/archive/2015/05/06/powershell-dsc-for-linux-is-now-available.aspx Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 8 15:19:04 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 14:19:04 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Hacking Linux In-Reply-To: <220355893.69189326.1431017378921.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <656253431.70215111.1431116344680.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: For years Linux has been the definition of what good security is but a team of developers have created a piece of malware that can rootkit even Linux kernels. https://github.com/x0r1/jellyfish But that is not where the issue ends or where it begins. The company has found how to hack the GPU, the systems graphic processor. Right now, there does not appear to be any malware protection programs that check the systems GPU for viruses. This malware is designed to hide in the GPU. The company that created the maleware may have done so as a Proof-of-concept but I would suspect that black-hat hackers are taking this technology and going into full production: http://www.itworld.com/article/2920615/security/new-linux-rootkit-leverages-gpus-for-stealth.html Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 11 09:53:58 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 08:53:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] The Raspberry PI 2 replacement In-Reply-To: <656253431.70215111.1431116344680.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1717686353.71678129.1431356038283.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: The Raspberry PI 2 is one of the cheapest and smallest home computers out there at CDN $66.95...off Amazon. They now have competition via a Kickstarter project. The new computer is called and CHIP and costs only $9.00. The computer is not yet under full production but the company has already met their funding goals so it is only a matter of time before you can have your CHIP computer. Check out the following page and view the video for details: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer I have already ordered one and may order some more. Jim From mcp2004 at mail.ru Mon May 11 12:19:19 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 20:19:19 +0300 Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?The_Raspberry_PI_2_replacement?= In-Reply-To: <1717686353.71678129.1431356038283.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <656253431.70215111.1431116344680.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <1717686353.71678129.1431356038283.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1431364759.370630189@f361.i.mail.ru> Hi Jim -- <<< The computer is not yet under full production but the company has already met their funding goal >>> Yes, it's impressive, they have got collected currently $725,000+ with the goal being $50,000 and 25 days left to collect more. But I will wait for a "CHIPPER-CHIP" - based computer - it promises to cost $0.99 :) Thank you. -- Shamil Monday, May 11, 2015 8:53 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence : >Hi All: > >The Raspberry PI 2 is one of the cheapest and smallest home computers out there at CDN $66.95...off Amazon. > >They now have competition via a Kickstarter project. The new computer is called and CHIP and costs only $9.00. The computer is not yet under full production but the company has already met their funding goals so it is only a matter of time before you can have your CHIP computer. Check out the following page and view the video for details: > >https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer > >I have already ordered one and may order some more. > >Jim >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 11 12:51:29 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 11:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] The Raspberry PI 2 replacement In-Reply-To: <1431364759.370630189@f361.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <1176963666.71841280.1431366689452.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Shamil: "CHIPPER-CHIP" Give us a link. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 10:19:19 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The Raspberry PI 2 replacement Hi Jim -- <<< The computer is not yet under full production but the company has already met their funding goal >>> Yes, it's impressive, they have got collected currently $725,000+ with the goal being $50,000 and 25 days left to collect more. But I will wait for a "CHIPPER-CHIP" - based computer - it promises to cost $0.99 :) Thank you. -- Shamil Monday, May 11, 2015 8:53 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence : >Hi All: > >The Raspberry PI 2 is one of the cheapest and smallest home computers out there at CDN $66.95...off Amazon. > >They now have competition via a Kickstarter project. The new computer is called and CHIP and costs only $9.00. The computer is not yet under full production but the company has already met their funding goals so it is only a matter of time before you can have your CHIP computer. Check out the following page and view the video for details: > >https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer > >I have already ordered one and may order some more. > >Jim >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 11 13:46:37 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 12:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] How to hack Windows In-Reply-To: <1717686353.71678129.1431356038283.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <916858332.71878559.1431369997806.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: Here is an explanation of how the Windows Architecture works and how it can be hacked. That is not of course what the article says its intention are, but in the explanation about how Windows Kernel Exploitation actually works and how to takes advantage of all Windows version, it becomes obvious. http://null.co.in/2015/05/07/windows-kernel-exploitation-hacksys-extreme-vulnerable-driver Another series of zero-day bugs? Will Microsoft fix these back-doors any time soon, is always the question. Jim From jbartow at winhaven.net Mon May 11 15:05:57 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:05:57 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] How to hack Windows In-Reply-To: <916858332.71878559.1431369997806.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1717686353.71678129.1431356038283.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <916858332.71878559.1431369997806.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Well, one thing is most likely true, it will patch faster than Apple would/would not have ;-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:47 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] How to hack Windows Hi All: Here is an explanation of how the Windows Architecture works and how it can be hacked. That is not of course what the article says its intention are, but in the explanation about how Windows Kernel Exploitation actually works and how to takes advantage of all Windows version, it becomes obvious. http://null.co.in/2015/05/07/windows-kernel-exploitation-hacksys-extreme-vul nerable-driver Another series of zero-day bugs? Will Microsoft fix these back-doors any time soon, is always the question. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 12 11:28:54 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 10:28:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] How to hack Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <301659872.72520513.1431448134582.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi John: Probably...but that said, traditionally these type patches take close to a year as they are very complex to fix as it requires huge chunks of code and resources. Microsoft is right now is in the middle of doing a major evolution and all-hands-are-on-deck. Do they have the resources or inclination to go back and fix old and deprecated code, as there is little financial incentive? In the meantime, every black-hat business, in the world and every local and foreign state department, starts implementing code to exploit these holes. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:05:57 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to hack Windows Well, one thing is most likely true, it will patch faster than Apple would/would not have ;-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:47 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] How to hack Windows Hi All: Here is an explanation of how the Windows Architecture works and how it can be hacked. That is not of course what the article says its intention are, but in the explanation about how Windows Kernel Exploitation actually works and how to takes advantage of all Windows version, it becomes obvious. http://null.co.in/2015/05/07/windows-kernel-exploitation-hacksys-extreme-vul nerable-driver Another series of zero-day bugs? Will Microsoft fix these back-doors any time soon, is always the question. Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed May 13 01:22:37 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 06:22:37 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Message-ID: Hi all Now passed the 5% mark with 68 GB copied ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 5. maj 2015 10:49 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim and John I launched SpinRite and started a repair. But when it had calculated (still incrementing) the time to 16000(!) hours, I realized this was probably not the route. The drive is 2 TB (1.8 net), one partion, and 1 TB data. Problem is, that the drive is alive but transfer speed is extremely slow. You could think, you could just xcopy the files, but it doesn't work because of the slow transfer which, ultimately, causes Windows to time out. So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 3. maj 2015 23:32 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: As you would suspect I would recommend a Linux solution, the Ubuntu Rescue Mix... :http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06652 ...download the ISO and write same to a boot CD/DVD and run the SATA, interrogation app from the desktop and fixes via the LIVE CD...no changes to the host computer's OS is done. I have had no first hand experience but an acquaintance had a successful recovery. GParted is another universal application that can fix any partition, from EXT4 to NTFS (Note that GParted does not currently support the Ubuntu (15.04)...but you can always download the latest source and then configure and compile it yourself.) ;-): http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows I have heard that that the company Yodot has some excellent SATA recovery software...It costs about $40: http://www.yodot.com/hard-drive-recovery/from-damaged-sata-hard-drive.html HTH Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:30:20 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all I have a 2 TB SATA disk which has gone bad. It is marked in Windows' Disk Manager with "Error" and "at risk". Decades ago I would have fired up SpinRite, but would that be of any use today? It's a USD 90 purchase. Or would you have other/better recommendations? /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 13 01:28:06 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 00:28:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1037077069.73021941.1431498486744.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: Well, its lucky you didn't have a large drive. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:22:37 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all Now passed the 5% mark with 68 GB copied ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 5. maj 2015 10:49 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim and John I launched SpinRite and started a repair. But when it had calculated (still incrementing) the time to 16000(!) hours, I realized this was probably not the route. The drive is 2 TB (1.8 net), one partion, and 1 TB data. Problem is, that the drive is alive but transfer speed is extremely slow. You could think, you could just xcopy the files, but it doesn't work because of the slow transfer which, ultimately, causes Windows to time out. So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 3. maj 2015 23:32 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: As you would suspect I would recommend a Linux solution, the Ubuntu Rescue Mix... :http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06652 ...download the ISO and write same to a boot CD/DVD and run the SATA, interrogation app from the desktop and fixes via the LIVE CD...no changes to the host computer's OS is done. I have had no first hand experience but an acquaintance had a successful recovery. GParted is another universal application that can fix any partition, from EXT4 to NTFS (Note that GParted does not currently support the Ubuntu (15.04)...but you can always download the latest source and then configure and compile it yourself.) ;-): http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows I have heard that that the company Yodot has some excellent SATA recovery software...It costs about $40: http://www.yodot.com/hard-drive-recovery/from-damaged-sata-hard-drive.html HTH Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:30:20 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all I have a 2 TB SATA disk which has gone bad. It is marked in Windows' Disk Manager with "Error" and "at risk". Decades ago I would have fired up SpinRite, but would that be of any use today? It's a USD 90 purchase. Or would you have other/better recommendations? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed May 13 01:49:15 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 06:49:15 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Message-ID: Hi Jim Actually I had to buy a new 2 TB drive just for this operation. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 08:28 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Well, its lucky you didn't have a large drive. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:22:37 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all Now passed the 5% mark with 68 GB copied ... /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 13 02:09:34 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 01:09:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1376035021.73031179.1431500974207.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: Not surprising. Have you estimated how much time is left? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:49:15 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Actually I had to buy a new 2 TB drive just for this operation. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 08:28 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Well, its lucky you didn't have a large drive. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:22:37 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all Now passed the 5% mark with 68 GB copied ... /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed May 13 02:20:23 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 07:20:23 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Message-ID: Hi Jim Yes: So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... It seems to run steady. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 09:10 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Not surprising. Have you estimated how much time is left? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:49:15 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Actually I had to buy a new 2 TB drive just for this operation. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 08:28 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Well, its lucky you didn't have a large drive. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:22:37 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all Now passed the 5% mark with 68 GB copied ... /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 13 13:22:00 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 12:22:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2027161510.73421658.1431541320551.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: Do you have a UPS attached to the computer? It might be frustrating if the power went out sometime in September just before the program wrote the boot track. If this works as planned Yodot will definitely be the go to application for drive recovery. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:20:23 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Yes: So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... It seems to run steady. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 09:10 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Not surprising. Have you estimated how much time is left? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:49:15 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Actually I had to buy a new 2 TB drive just for this operation. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 08:28 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Well, its lucky you didn't have a large drive. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:22:37 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all Now passed the 5% mark with 68 GB copied ... /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed May 13 13:35:18 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 18:35:18 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Message-ID: Hi Jim No I haven't - and at this time a can't plug it in. So I cross fingers, but power here is very stable. However, the copy process of Yodot has an option for not trying to replace existing files, so worst case after a relaunch would be the extra time to read the directory structure and move through the existing file list. It couldn't take that long. In the meantime: Passed 6% at 72 GB ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 20:22 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Do you have a UPS attached to the computer? It might be frustrating if the power went out sometime in September just before the program wrote the boot track. If this works as planned Yodot will definitely be the go to application for drive recovery. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:20:23 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Yes: So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... It seems to run steady. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 09:10 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Not surprising. Have you estimated how much time is left? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:49:15 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Actually I had to buy a new 2 TB drive just for this operation. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 08:28 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Well, its lucky you didn't have a large drive. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:22:37 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi all Now passed the 5% mark with 68 GB copied ... /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 14 10:49:40 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:49:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Electron In-Reply-To: <916858332.71878559.1431369997806.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: The new big development application, according to some articles I have read is the product Electron (formally Atom). What it does is interesting, in that it translates webbased applications and make desktop applications out of them. What makes this concept so interesting and perhaps amusing is that, ten years ago, I never imagined that web applications would have so many features as to make them as powerful as any desktop program but that was ten year ago. Today, there is hardly anything that that a web application couldn't do compared to a desktop app. The product is Open Source, can be downloaded in its entirety off GitHub and its compiled products can run on any platform: http://electron.atom.io If you want to see how this product can be used to convert a web application to a desktop one, check out the new Microsoft new cross-platform Visual Studio: https://code.visualstudio.com/Download ...and... http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/29/microsoft-shocks-the-world-with-visual-studio-code-a-free-code-editor-for-os-x-linux-and-windows/#.efujwt:k3qL My question is when will we have a full featured MS Access built on the web and compiled on the desktop? Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 14 21:04:37 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 20:04:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Wolfram image identifier In-Reply-To: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1480271156.74647827.1431655477025.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: Wolfram has just opened up a new service that will allow you to post to the site and allow it to identify what type of object the image is. This technology is not particularly staggering if we put it into context of human capabilities but from a technology stand point this is quite incredible. Check it out: http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/13/8603531/wolfram-image-identification-site-trained-by-chewbacca Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 14 21:16:19 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 20:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft In-Reply-To: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <2096500309.74652080.1431656179774.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: Microsoft has been doing so well as of late with all it new software and technology advancements but then things start to spin off the table. http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/05/13/introducing-windows-10-editions How many editions of just one of their products do we need? Consider that Ubuntu has but two editions; one, the desktop and server edition and two, a headless edition...that's it. That version runs on smartphones, tablets, imbedded systems, desktops and servers...this one basic edition runs, AD, VD, Containers, Hadoop, webserver, ZFS, can run thousands of users, DNS server, DHCP server, Video server, Database server etc etc etc... The one thing I am sure of, is there must be a monetary element to it but it is going to be such a nightmare for its users. Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Thu May 14 21:21:18 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 20:21:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] A space light sail In-Reply-To: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <927841237.74654074.1431656478042.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: There is a new kickstarter and this one is raising funds for launching a huge solar sail for testing the next step in our solar exploration. The goal is rather modest considering how much these type of project usually cost and it appears the minimum goal has been more than made. There is of course the dream goal but this project is launching for sure: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/theplanetarysociety/lightsail-a-revolutionary-solar-sailing-spacecraft Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 17 06:06:55 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 07:06:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement Message-ID: MenuetOS has reached version 1.0, after more than a decade of development. It's an x86-based OS written entirely in assembly language, but comes with a GUI, an assembler and a programmer's text editor. It's small enough to fit on a floppy disk. I don't think it's for the faint of heart, but it looks amazing. For more information, click here . -- Arthur From jwcolby at gmail.com Sun May 17 22:22:21 2015 From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W. Colby) Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 23:22:21 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55595AED.4010800@gmail.com> OK, but I threw away all of my floppies back in 2000. Besides, does it fit on an 8", 5 " or 3.5" floppy? Single or double density? Curious minds want to know. John W. Colby On 5/17/2015 7:06 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > MenuetOS has reached version 1.0, after more than a decade of development. > It's an x86-based OS written entirely in assembly language, but comes with > a GUI, an assembler and a programmer's text editor. It's small enough to > fit on a floppy disk. I don't think it's for the faint of heart, but it > looks amazing. For more information, click here . > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon May 18 06:49:28 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 07:49:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement In-Reply-To: <55595AED.4010800@gmail.com> References: <55595AED.4010800@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think the statement that it could fit on a floppy was intended to indicate its total size, not its installation target. I'd think that a Raspberry Pi would be an ideal target. On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:22 PM, John W. Colby wrote: > OK, but I threw away all of my floppies back in 2000. Besides, does it > fit on an 8", 5 " or 3.5" floppy? Single or double density? Curious minds > want to know. > > John W. Colby From gustav at cactus.dk Mon May 18 07:08:14 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 12:08:14 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement Message-ID: Hi John This is the type of question it takes less time to get the answer to than to formulate ... The diskette image is 1.44 MB. Then, I guess, you will know the diskette type. You may wonder how I found out, but I will not tell. That's my little secret. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 18. maj 2015 13:49 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement I think the statement that it could fit on a floppy was intended to indicate its total size, not its installation target. I'd think that a Raspberry Pi would be an ideal target. On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:22 PM, John W. Colby wrote: > OK, but I threw away all of my floppies back in 2000. Besides, does > it fit on an 8", 5 " or 3.5" floppy? Single or double density? > Curious minds want to know. > > John W. Colby From jwcolby at gmail.com Mon May 18 12:36:28 2015 From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W. Colby) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 13:36:28 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <555A231C.2080809@gmail.com> And the question was of course tongue in cheek. John W. Colby On 5/18/2015 8:08 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi John > > This is the type of question it takes less time to get the answer to than to formulate ... > > The diskette image is 1.44 MB. Then, I guess, you will know the diskette type. > You may wonder how I found out, but I will not tell. That's my little secret. > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller > Sendt: 18. maj 2015 13:49 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement > > I think the statement that it could fit on a floppy was intended to indicate its total size, not its installation target. I'd think that a Raspberry Pi would be an ideal target. > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:22 PM, John W. Colby wrote: > >> OK, but I threw away all of my floppies back in 2000. Besides, does >> it fit on an 8", 5 " or 3.5" floppy? Single or double density? >> Curious minds want to know. >> >> John W. Colby > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at gmail.com Mon May 18 12:40:12 2015 From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W. Colby) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 13:40:12 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement In-Reply-To: References: <55595AED.4010800@gmail.com> Message-ID: <555A23FC.9040107@gmail.com> I was pulling your leg Arthur. Does on leg feel a bit longer than the other? I was under the impression that MinuetOS was 80x86 target. Raspberry Pi is not that. Of course you could run an 80x86 emulator and MinuetOS under that, but I would guess that the entire point is screaming fast OS so doing so would defeat the entire purpose. John W. Colby On 5/18/2015 7:49 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I think the statement that it could fit on a floppy was intended to > indicate its total size, not its installation target. I'd think that a > Raspberry Pi would be an ideal target. > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:22 PM, John W. Colby wrote: > >> OK, but I threw away all of my floppies back in 2000. Besides, does it >> fit on an 8", 5 " or 3.5" floppy? Single or double density? Curious minds >> want to know. >> >> John W. Colby > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jbartow at winhaven.net Mon May 18 16:18:13 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 16:18:13 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005c01d091b0$264879e0$72d96da0$@winhaven.net> It looks like I can only get the Lumia 928 Black. It will be $220 with no contract but it appears to be a very good phone. Any comments? -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 2:27 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Hi John I have a Lumia 925 and wife a 820, both with the optional wireless charging which is an underrated feature - once you have get used to this, you feel sorry for the old-timerss struggling with plugs and cables. Both are out in newer models, but the real killer model is the 630/640 series at such low prices that you can get four of these for a single decent Android thing. I think you just have to decide for what features you wish. None of the Lumias will let you down. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 7. maj 2015 00:41 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Prioritet: H?j Because I want to have my phone the same as my tablet the same as my laptop the same as my desktop :-) -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 5:23 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Why Windows? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, John R Bartow wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm back in the hunt for a Windows phone. Which model would you recommend? > > TIA > > John _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 18 20:43:03 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 19:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] A new Office package In-Reply-To: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1384325200.76839908.1431999783558.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> There appears to be a new Office package online and on our desktops. It has a number of applications all of which can work collaboratively; document management, online document editor, project management, charting (gannt), CRM, invoicing and mail: http://www.onlyoffice.com/highlights.aspx and http://www.onlyoffice.com Uses AES 256 encryption and a SSL connection. This will be yet another competitor to Google docs and Microsoft 365. Jim From gustav at cactus.dk Tue May 19 01:41:07 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 06:41:07 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Message-ID: Hi John I guess it's an upgraded 925 so I'm sure you will be happy with it. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 18. maj 2015 23:18 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Prioritet: H?j It looks like I can only get the Lumia 928 Black. It will be $220 with no contract but it appears to be a very good phone. Any comments? -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 2:27 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Hi John I have a Lumia 925 and wife a 820, both with the optional wireless charging which is an underrated feature - once you have get used to this, you feel sorry for the old-timerss struggling with plugs and cables. Both are out in newer models, but the real killer model is the 630/640 series at such low prices that you can get four of these for a single decent Android thing. I think you just have to decide for what features you wish. None of the Lumias will let you down. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow Sendt: 7. maj 2015 00:41 Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows phone Prioritet: H?j Because I want to have my phone the same as my tablet the same as my laptop the same as my desktop :-) From gustav at cactus.dk Tue May 19 08:16:44 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 13:16:44 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Message-ID: Hi Jim Now passed 10% at 117 GB ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 13. maj 2015 20:35 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim No I haven't - and at this time a can't plug it in. So I cross fingers, but power here is very stable. However, the copy process of Yodot has an option for not trying to replace existing files, so worst case after a relaunch would be the extra time to read the directory structure and move through the existing file list. It couldn't take that long. In the meantime: Passed 6% at 72 GB ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 20:22 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Do you have a UPS attached to the computer? It might be frustrating if the power went out sometime in September just before the program wrote the boot track. If this works as planned Yodot will definitely be the go to application for drive recovery. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:20:23 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Yes: So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... It seems to run steady. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 19 08:59:59 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 07:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <372598358.77137083.1432043999391.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: Looks very interesting. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:06:55 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement MenuetOS has reached version 1.0, after more than a decade of development. It's an x86-based OS written entirely in assembly language, but comes with a GUI, an assembler and a programmer's text editor. It's small enough to fit on a floppy disk. I don't think it's for the faint of heart, but it looks amazing. For more information, click here . -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue May 19 13:30:00 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 14:30:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement In-Reply-To: <372598358.77137083.1432043999391.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <372598358.77137083.1432043999391.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Just vague theorizing here, but it occurs to me that one could install this on an old thumb drive (by old I mean the 8GB variety), and then alter the boot sequence to look first at the USB port to see if the drive is there, and if so boot from it. Yeah, I have an old 16GB thumb that I seldom use, now that I have a 64GB thumb; so I could give it a whirl and see what happens. A. On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > Looks very interesting. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:06:55 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement > > MenuetOS has reached version 1.0, after more than a decade of development. > It's an x86-based OS written entirely in assembly language, but comes with > a GUI, an assembler and a programmer's text editor. It's small enough to > fit on a floppy disk. I don't think it's for the faint of heart, but it > looks amazing. For more information, click here >. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed May 20 12:16:55 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 12:16:55 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Apple's Safari serious security vulnerability Message-ID: <010901d09320$c6033580$5209a080$@winhaven.net> Mac heads beware. A serious security vulnerability has been uncovered in Apple's Safari web browser that could trick Safari users into visiting a malicious website with the genuine web address. Details: http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/safari-url-spoofing.html?utm_source=feedbur ner &utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+S ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.947.kp0aof74zx.jmi From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed May 20 12:17:26 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 12:17:26 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Apple's Safari serious security vulnerability Message-ID: Mac heads beware. A serious security vulnerability has been uncovered in Apple's Safari web browser that could trick Safari users into visiting a malicious website with the genuine web address. Details: http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/safari-url-spoofing.html?utm_source=feedbur ner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+ -+Security+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.947.kp0aof74zx.jmi From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed May 20 12:29:02 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 12:29:02 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] vulnerability has been uncovered in the NetUSB Message-ID: Linux and router users beware: NetUSB is a Linux kernel module that allows for users to flash drives, plug printers and other USB-connected devices into their routers so that they can be accessed over the local network. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/netusb-router-hacking.html From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu May 21 13:47:34 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 14:47:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] VM question Message-ID: Could someone who uses VMWare tell me what it brings to the party that free alternatives such as Hyper-V and VirtualBox do not? It must be something significant because the company continues to do well despite the free alternatives. So what is it? -- Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 22 05:05:42 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 06:05:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Silverlight question Message-ID: Exactly what is this product for? I have never consciously installed it, but it's there, so it must have been installed by some other product. Is it safe to remove it? -- Arthur From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri May 22 05:10:59 2015 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 10:10:59 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Silverlight question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6fcbffdc33804c29a89d4adc25918111@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=silverlight :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:06 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Silverlight question Exactly what is this product for? I have never consciously installed it, but it's there, so it must have been installed by some other product. Is it safe to remove it? -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 22 06:29:48 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 07:29:48 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Silverlight question In-Reply-To: <6fcbffdc33804c29a89d4adc25918111@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> References: <6fcbffdc33804c29a89d4adc25918111@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> Message-ID: Which basically says that Silverlight is a deprecated tool, so what's the point in having it? Arthur On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Jon Tydda wrote: > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=silverlight > > :-) > > > Jon From jon.tydda at lonza.com Fri May 22 07:26:50 2015 From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 12:26:50 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Silverlight question In-Reply-To: References: <6fcbffdc33804c29a89d4adc25918111@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net> Message-ID: Oh, didn't realise it was being deprecated... It's still used in lots of sites, as an alternative to Flash, so I wouldn't kill it off just yet. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 12:30 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Silverlight question Which basically says that Silverlight is a deprecated tool, so what's the point in having it? Arthur On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Jon Tydda wrote: > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=silverlight > > :-) > > > Jon _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your system. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 22 09:10:44 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 10:10:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Message-ID: Has anyone besides me been running the Windows 10 preview? I must say that I really like it. -- Arthur From gustav at cactus.dk Fri May 22 09:23:24 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 14:23:24 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Message-ID: Hi Arthur Yes, from week one. But I really miss the Win8 startscreen. The new mess of Win7-style top/down browsing and a half-hearted horizontal "startscreen" is terrible; I pray that an option for having the start screen back will be possible somehow. Also, I've complained about the new round account pictures. It is plain ugly. The biggest feature - made for John Colby - is the resizable app windows. Windows 8 works so well, so It is hard to improve. Of course, things evolve, and the Edge browser seems promising. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 22. maj 2015 16:11 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Has anyone besides me been running the Windows 10 preview? I must say that I really like it. -- Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 22 13:05:09 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 12:05:09 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1538015147.80274852.1432317909864.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> For all those old laptops, tablets and desktops far past their prime, here is a new OS from Google and Ubuntu called Chromixium. Its requirements are extremely modest: Summary 1GB USB device or DVD-R/RW 1GHZ 32 bit Processor, Intel/AMD (dual core preferred) 512MB RAM (1GB preferred) 4GB hard disk space (8GB prefered) Video graphics capable of 800x600 resolution (1024x600 or better preferred) Wired (ethernet) or wireless (WiFi) Internet access A computer that is capable of booting from a DVD or USB On the above hardware this OS is very fast. (I have been running in on a 32 bit Virtual disk and it very fast...considering.) http://itsfoss.com/chromixiumos-released/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=http_itsfosscom_chromixiumos_released ...and... http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromixium/?source=typ_redirect ...and,,, http://chromixium.wikidot.com/minimum-requirements ...and direct from the source... http://chromixium.org/about PS For installing Chromixium on a VD of your choice see the the following link: http://chromixium.wikidot.com/testing-chromixium-in-a-virtual-machine and enter the password ?user? and the installer will open. I currently have setup the configuration to 1 processor, 1 GB of RAM and 20GB hard drive space and though slowest it still runs very stably. Note, that it is as you would suspect, Google-centric but other apps can be downloaded. (It even runs MS 365 without issue. ;-)) Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 22 14:00:15 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 13:00:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Check out the full Sailfish emulator In-Reply-To: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1797412788.80321626.1432321215337.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Russia is officially moving most of its public and most of its private systems to a version of the Sailfish OS. Sailfish OS powers smartphones, tablets and now a new version that will power desktops. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/12/jolla_phone_ships_on_3_hong_kong ...and the Russian upgrade... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/19/russia_plans_fork_sailfish_combat_western_spooks Sailfish, is a version of Linux and its development IDE can be downloaded and ran: https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/develop-installation-article Note: The installation on Linux does not require going to terminal mode. Once the SDK has been downloaded, just right-mouse-click, select permissions and toggle the execute option...close and then right-mouse-click and select run. It only takes 100MB, trivial by today's standards. If you are using Ubuntu, you can just lock the shortcut to the launcher. To run the full GUI smartphone emulator you must have VirtualBox installed via installation instructions but it is all fairly easy. Full setup took less time than it took to download. PS There is also full documentation online plus an active forum: https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 22 14:58:49 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 13:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] The next big things in cell phones In-Reply-To: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1008801577.80372144.1432324729882.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Not since the creation of the iPhone and the adding of Siri voice commands has there been anything significantly new in this market. Yes, the phones have become a lot faster and more powerful and many new features have been added to the OS and through various apps but for the most part the advancements have been slow. Now there is a new phone that will be coming out later this year. Check out the new YotaPhone. The official site is: https://yotaphone.com/ca-en ...but currently a campaign, to raise money for the next advancement, is under way, on the startup site, Intiegogo and all basic requirements have been successfully met and far surpassed, so we should be seeing the new phone by the end of the year. YotaPhone 2 will be the World's First Dual-Screen Smartphone! To say the least it looks and sounds awesome. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/yotaphone-2-world-s-first-dual-screen-smartphone#/story Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri May 22 16:26:28 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 15:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <127748927.80434219.1432329988709.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: I am getting so stoked. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:16:44 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Now passed 10% at 117 GB ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 13. maj 2015 20:35 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim No I haven't - and at this time a can't plug it in. So I cross fingers, but power here is very stable. However, the copy process of Yodot has an option for not trying to replace existing files, so worst case after a relaunch would be the extra time to read the directory structure and move through the existing file list. It couldn't take that long. In the meantime: Passed 6% at 72 GB ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 13. maj 2015 20:22 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: Do you have a UPS attached to the computer? It might be frustrating if the power went out sometime in September just before the program wrote the boot track. If this works as planned Yodot will definitely be the go to application for drive recovery. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:20:23 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Yes: So I turned to Yodot (the drive repair version at USD 80) which, as the first, tries to pull the data off the drive before attempting a repair. This seems to run - at about 330 MB per hour. Speak about patience: my little calculator tells me that the job will go on for 140 days ... It seems to run steady. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 22 18:23:13 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 19:23:13 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The next big things in cell phones In-Reply-To: <1008801577.80372144.1432324729882.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <1008801577.80372144.1432324729882.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: That's already here, Samsung's latest. I see ads for it every day. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > YotaPhone 2 will be the World's First Dual-Screen Smartphone! To say the > least it looks and sounds awesome. > > Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 22 19:52:34 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 20:52:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: <1538015147.80274852.1432317909864.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <1538015147.80274852.1432317909864.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: I created a VM for it and once it was running, tried to install it using the icon On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > For all those old laptops, tablets and desktops far past their prime, here > is a new OS from Google and Ubuntu called Chromixium. > > Its requirements are extremely modest: > > Summary > > 1GB USB device or DVD-R/RW > 1GHZ 32 bit Processor, Intel/AMD (dual core preferred) > 512MB RAM (1GB preferred) > 4GB hard disk space (8GB prefered) > Video graphics capable of 800x600 resolution (1024x600 or better > preferred) > Wired (ethernet) or wireless (WiFi) Internet access > A computer that is capable of booting from a DVD or USB > > On the above hardware this OS is very fast. (I have been running in on a > 32 bit Virtual disk and it very fast...considering.) > > > http://itsfoss.com/chromixiumos-released/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=http_itsfosscom_chromixiumos_released > > ...and... > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromixium/?source=typ_redirect > > ...and,,, > > http://chromixium.wikidot.com/minimum-requirements > > ...and direct from the source... > > http://chromixium.org/about > > PS For installing Chromixium on a VD of your choice see the the following > link: > http://chromixium.wikidot.com/testing-chromixium-in-a-virtual-machine > and enter the password ?user? and the installer will open. I currently > have setup the configuration to 1 processor, 1 GB of RAM and 20GB hard > drive space and though slowest it still runs very stably. Note, that it is > as you would suspect, Google-centric but other apps can be downloaded. (It > even runs MS 365 without issue. ;-)) > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri May 22 19:54:59 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 20:54:59 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: References: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <1538015147.80274852.1432317909864.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Oops. Accidentally hit Send. I'm now trying to install it as opposed to running it off the DVD. It wants a password. Any idea what the password is? Arthur On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I created a VM for it and once it was running, tried to install it using > the icon > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> For all those old laptops, tablets and desktops far past their prime, >> here is a new OS from Google and Ubuntu called Chromixium. >> >> Its requirements are extremely modest: >> >> Summary >> >> 1GB USB device or DVD-R/RW >> 1GHZ 32 bit Processor, Intel/AMD (dual core preferred) >> 512MB RAM (1GB preferred) >> 4GB hard disk space (8GB prefered) >> Video graphics capable of 800x600 resolution (1024x600 or better >> preferred) >> Wired (ethernet) or wireless (WiFi) Internet access >> A computer that is capable of booting from a DVD or USB >> >> On the above hardware this OS is very fast. (I have been running in on a >> 32 bit Virtual disk and it very fast...considering.) >> >> >> http://itsfoss.com/chromixiumos-released/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=http_itsfosscom_chromixiumos_released >> >> ...and... >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromixium/?source=typ_redirect >> >> ...and,,, >> >> http://chromixium.wikidot.com/minimum-requirements >> >> ...and direct from the source... >> >> http://chromixium.org/about >> >> PS For installing Chromixium on a VD of your choice see the the following >> link: >> http://chromixium.wikidot.com/testing-chromixium-in-a-virtual-machine >> and enter the password ?user? and the installer will open. I currently >> have setup the configuration to 1 processor, 1 GB of RAM and 20GB hard >> drive space and though slowest it still runs very stably. Note, that it is >> as you would suspect, Google-centric but other apps can be downloaded. (It >> even runs MS 365 without issue. ;-)) >> >> Jim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > > -- > Arthur > > -- Arthur From hkotsch at arcor.de Sat May 23 05:12:36 2015 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 12:12:36 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: References: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <1538015147.80274852.1432317909864.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <001601d09540$fdf71b60$f9e55220$@de> Isn't the password "user" as stated in Jim's post. (see below) Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Arthur Fuller Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Mai 2015 02:55 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap Oops. Accidentally hit Send. I'm now trying to install it as opposed to running it off the DVD. It wants a password. Any idea what the password is? Arthur >> PS For installing Chromixium on a VD of your choice see the the >> following >> link: >> http://chromixium.wikidot.com/testing-chromixium-in-a-virtual-machine >> and enter the password ?user? and the installer will open. I >> currently have setup the configuration to 1 processor, 1 GB of RAM >> and 20GB hard drive space and though slowest it still runs very >> stably. Note, that it is as you would suspect, Google-centric but >> other apps can be downloaded. (It even runs MS 365 without issue. >> ;-)) >> >> Jim >> From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat May 23 05:40:53 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 06:40:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: <001601d09540$fdf71b60$f9e55220$@de> References: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <1538015147.80274852.1432317909864.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <001601d09540$fdf71b60$f9e55220$@de> Message-ID: Sadly, no. That password works to boot from the disk, but once there, you have the option to install the OS (thus eliminating the boot disk), and that's where you need an admin password, I tried "user" and "password" and no go. Arthur On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Isn't the password "user" as stated in Jim's post. (see below) > > Helmut From hkotsch at arcor.de Sat May 23 06:10:55 2015 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 13:10:55 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: References: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <1538015147.80274852.1432317909864.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <001601d09540$fdf71b60$f9e55220$@de> Message-ID: <001b01d09549$23aff630$6b0fe290$@de> I downloaded the file "Chromixium-1.0-RC1-amd64.iso" from this side http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromixium/files/ Then I installed it as a virtual machine under VMWare. No password asked whatsoever. However you have to assign your own userID and password during the installation Works perfekt. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Arthur Fuller Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Mai 2015 12:41 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap Sadly, no. That password works to boot from the disk, but once there, you have the option to install the OS (thus eliminating the boot disk), and that's where you need an admin password, I tried "user" and "password" and no go. Arthur On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Isn't the password "user" as stated in Jim's post. (see below) > > Helmut _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat May 23 06:28:42 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 07:28:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: <001b01d09549$23aff630$6b0fe290$@de> References: <1878254572.74198428.1431618580825.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <1538015147.80274852.1432317909864.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <001601d09540$fdf71b60$f9e55220$@de> <001b01d09549$23aff630$6b0fe290$@de> Message-ID: I downloaded it from a different source but I'll try yours now. Thanks Helmut. On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > I downloaded the file "Chromixium-1.0-RC1-amd64.iso" from this side > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromixium/files/ > > Then I installed it as a virtual machine under VMWare. > No password asked whatsoever. However you have to assign your own userID > and > password during the installation > Works perfekt. > > Helmut From accessd at shaw.ca Sat May 23 12:20:56 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 11:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1756700263.80918434.1432401656007.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: Seems like it should be made to work. Keep me posted. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:30:00 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement Just vague theorizing here, but it occurs to me that one could install this on an old thumb drive (by old I mean the 8GB variety), and then alter the boot sequence to look first at the USB port to see if the drive is there, and if so boot from it. Yeah, I have an old 16GB thumb that I seldom use, now that I have a 64GB thumb; so I could give it a whirl and see what happens. A. On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > Looks very interesting. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:06:55 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] MenuetOS:quite an achievement > > MenuetOS has reached version 1.0, after more than a decade of development. > It's an x86-based OS written entirely in assembly language, but comes with > a GUI, an assembler and a programmer's text editor. It's small enough to > fit on a floppy disk. I don't think it's for the faint of heart, but it > looks amazing. For more information, click here >. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sat May 23 12:42:23 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 17:42:23 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: <127748927.80434219.1432329988709.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: , <127748927.80434219.1432329988709.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1432402943386.74679@cactus.dk> Hi Jim But be careful: https://youtu.be/-eY3ixsFGsw /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-Tech p? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 22. maj 2015 23:26 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: I am getting so stoked. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:16:44 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Now passed 10% at 117 GB ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 13. maj 2015 20:35 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim No I haven't - and at this time a can't plug it in. So I cross fingers, but power here is very stable. However, the copy process of Yodot has an option for not trying to replace existing files, so worst case after a relaunch would be the extra time to read the directory structure and move through the existing file list. It couldn't take that long. In the meantime: Passed 6% at 72 GB ... /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 25 11:30:28 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:30:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] vulnerability has been uncovered in the NetUSB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <432374621.81860649.1432571428073.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Who ever decided to put a backdoor (or did so on purpose) in these devices has some explanation to make. Just by putting an open TCP port at address 20005 and not telling anyone is not a form of security. One port scan, from software would expose to hole, in a few minutes. For my bet, even though this hole could have been a programming accident, my bet is that it was done with intent. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Off Topic" , "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:29:02 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] vulnerability has been uncovered in the NetUSB Linux and router users beware: NetUSB is a Linux kernel module that allows for users to flash drives, plug printers and other USB-connected devices into their routers so that they can be accessed over the local network. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/netusb-router-hacking.html _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 25 13:53:41 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 12:53:41 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] VM question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <31091373.81969744.1432580021888.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: First, the VMWare player is also free. Iit is supposed to be proprietary but the Open Source community is in the process of suing them, for patent act violations...as most of their code is already GNU licensed. VMWare is crazy simple to use and for me at least, has never failed on an install...VirtualBox has borged a couple of times. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:47:34 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] VM question Could someone who uses VMWare tell me what it brings to the party that free alternatives such as Hyper-V and VirtualBox do not? It must be something significant because the company continues to do well despite the free alternatives. So what is it? -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 25 14:47:38 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 13:47:38 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Silverlight question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1048109135.82007231.1432583258889.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: My understanding that it was supposed to be Flash or rich content replacement, five plus years back but now it is a deprecated application framework. Most browsers no longer even support it. According to stats, it is being used in .01 percent of all sites. Something to be avoided from my point of view. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 3:05:42 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Silverlight question Exactly what is this product for? I have never consciously installed it, but it's there, so it must have been installed by some other product. Is it safe to remove it? -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon May 25 22:27:29 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 21:27:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <991887353.82266029.1432610849171.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: I have, at least this weekend, but my experience was not quite as pleasant. That said, the product is very pretty. :-) The first issue I ran into was a BIOS issue which was reported as "not a 64 bit computer" error...nothing to do with it...it was Virtual Intel VT-x/EPT BIOS toggle error. Note, that no motherboard comes with this switch toggles on so you might think MS might check and give an appropriate error response. This error was followed by two registry errors but fortunately, there was a couple of command line scripts, posted, that saved the day plus forcing an update. Finally, when trying to setup the network domain and IP addresses is a bear, to say the least. It probably started when I responded "yes" to a single home computer. Windows did not even check for the local network or Active Windows server or any servers for that matter and created it own IP address range (???). Then having to fix this error is not simple. One set of instructions, off the internet, gave information, on how to access the "System Properties" suggested enter "join a domain" in the search bar and connect to the result. I had a few errors until the system had an update and that froze the OS and required a full boot to unlock. That is obviously not the proper way but the writer could find no other way to access that information. When adding the domain name the computer still requires a full system reboot. (I have become use to just stopping and starting the appropriate service). Next, the OS demands to resolve a connection to a DHCP server. By default it connects remotely to the Cloud...you can see where this is going...when IP addresses and server are matching (on the same network) and the Windows 10 box can see all systems public addresses, via command prompt, "arp -r" but can not connect to the network's shares and printers. If you allow the system to "fix" the DHCP problem, the IP addresses change back to the default setting...and now the internet is available but still nothing is available on the network. The only way I resolved this issue was by editing the Hosts files in the system directory. There is obviously something I am missing with this problem but I can find nothing about, in Google, on how Windows 10 establishes the relationship between DHCP and the default IP addresses...it can not be this tough or no one would use Windows 10. If you or anyone else can figure out what the issue is, lead/link me to a explanation, I would be greatly appreciative. That said, the OS is very nice. The attention to detail is very good but this is still very much a beta product with lots of bug to fix and updates needed. I somehow expected differently but it is just like any of the other bleeding Linux distros I have played with. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:10:44 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Has anyone besides me been running the Windows 10 preview? I must say that I really like it. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 00:14:45 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 23:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] The next big things in cell phones In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1792208967.82316128.1432617285181.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: I wonder when these Samsung's will be ready for sales? The only links I could find were in China. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 4:23:13 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The next big things in cell phones That's already here, Samsung's latest. I see ads for it every day. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > YotaPhone 2 will be the World's First Dual-Screen Smartphone! To say the > least it looks and sounds awesome. > > Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 00:20:13 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 23:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1932473058.82318605.1432617613992.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: Well just select the user "guest" and it wouldn't bother you again. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 5:54:59 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap Oops. Accidentally hit Send. I'm now trying to install it as opposed to running it off the DVD. It wants a password. Any idea what the password is? Arthur On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I created a VM for it and once it was running, tried to install it using > the icon > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> For all those old laptops, tablets and desktops far past their prime, >> here is a new OS from Google and Ubuntu called Chromixium. >> >> Its requirements are extremely modest: >> >> Summary >> >> 1GB USB device or DVD-R/RW >> 1GHZ 32 bit Processor, Intel/AMD (dual core preferred) >> 512MB RAM (1GB preferred) >> 4GB hard disk space (8GB prefered) >> Video graphics capable of 800x600 resolution (1024x600 or better >> preferred) >> Wired (ethernet) or wireless (WiFi) Internet access >> A computer that is capable of booting from a DVD or USB >> >> On the above hardware this OS is very fast. (I have been running in on a >> 32 bit Virtual disk and it very fast...considering.) >> >> >> http://itsfoss.com/chromixiumos-released/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=http_itsfosscom_chromixiumos_released >> >> ...and... >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromixium/?source=typ_redirect >> >> ...and,,, >> >> http://chromixium.wikidot.com/minimum-requirements >> >> ...and direct from the source... >> >> http://chromixium.org/about >> >> PS For installing Chromixium on a VD of your choice see the the following >> link: >> http://chromixium.wikidot.com/testing-chromixium-in-a-virtual-machine >> and enter the password ?user? and the installer will open. I currently >> have setup the configuration to 1 processor, 1 GB of RAM and 20GB hard >> drive space and though slowest it still runs very stably. Note, that it is >> as you would suspect, Google-centric but other apps can be downloaded. (It >> even runs MS 365 without issue. ;-)) >> >> Jim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > > -- > Arthur > > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 00:33:32 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 23:33:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap In-Reply-To: <001b01d09549$23aff630$6b0fe290$@de> Message-ID: <692173698.82324039.1432618412065.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Helmut: :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helmut Kotsch" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 4:10:55 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap I downloaded the file "Chromixium-1.0-RC1-amd64.iso" from this side http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromixium/files/ Then I installed it as a virtual machine under VMWare. No password asked whatsoever. However you have to assign your own userID and password during the installation Works perfekt. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Arthur Fuller Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Mai 2015 12:41 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] A new OS for cheap Sadly, no. That password works to boot from the disk, but once there, you have the option to install the OS (thus eliminating the boot disk), and that's where you need an admin password, I tried "user" and "password" and no go. Arthur On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Isn't the password "user" as stated in Jim's post. (see below) > > Helmut _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 00:38:31 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 23:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? In-Reply-To: <1432402943386.74679@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1801428210.82325322.1432618711498.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: That is so funny. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:42:23 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim But be careful: https://youtu.be/-eY3ixsFGsw /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-Tech p? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 22. maj 2015 23:26 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Gustav: I am getting so stoked. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:16:44 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim Now passed 10% at 117 GB ... /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 13. maj 2015 20:35 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SpinRite or? Hi Jim No I haven't - and at this time a can't plug it in. So I cross fingers, but power here is very stable. However, the copy process of Yodot has an option for not trying to replace existing files, so worst case after a relaunch would be the extra time to read the directory structure and move through the existing file list. It couldn't take that long. In the meantime: Passed 6% at 72 GB ... /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue May 26 05:50:26 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 06:50:26 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] The next big things in cell phones In-Reply-To: <1792208967.82316128.1432617285181.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1792208967.82316128.1432617285181.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: I don't know, Jim. I see TV ads for them all the time here in Toronto, and just assumed they must be for sales, else why advertise? A. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > I wonder when these Samsung's will be ready for sales? The only links I > could find were in China. > > Jim From hkotsch at arcor.de Tue May 26 06:29:03 2015 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 13:29:03 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <991887353.82266029.1432610849171.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <991887353.82266029.1432610849171.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <004d01d097a7$2bb10b20$83132160$@de> Hi Jim, I only run Windows 10 as a virtual machine under VMware. No problems whatsoever. I really like it and do think it will be a success. Concerning the network/network connection I selected "Bridged(Automatic)" as the network adapter. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Jim Lawrence Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2015 05:27 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Arthur: I have, at least this weekend, but my experience was not quite as pleasant. That said, the product is very pretty. :-) The first issue I ran into was a BIOS issue which was reported as "not a 64 bit computer" error...nothing to do with it...it was Virtual Intel VT-x/EPT BIOS toggle error. Note, that no motherboard comes with this switch toggles on so you might think MS might check and give an appropriate error response. This error was followed by two registry errors but fortunately, there was a couple of command line scripts, posted, that saved the day plus forcing an update. Finally, when trying to setup the network domain and IP addresses is a bear, to say the least. It probably started when I responded "yes" to a single home computer. Windows did not even check for the local network or Active Windows server or any servers for that matter and created it own IP address range (???). Then having to fix this error is not simple. One set of instructions, off the internet, gave information, on how to access the "System Properties" suggested enter "join a domain" in the search bar and connect to the result. I had a few errors until the system had an update and that froze the OS and required a full boot to unlock. That is obviously not the proper way but the writer could find no other way to access that information. When adding the domain name the computer still requires a full system reboot. (I have become use to just stopping and starting the appropriate service). Next, the OS demands to resolve a connection to a DHCP server. By default it connects remotely to the Cloud...you can see where this is going...when IP addresses and server are matching (on the same network) and the Windows 10 box can see all systems public addresses, via command prompt, "arp -r" but can not connect to the network's shares and printers. If you allow the system to "fix" the DHCP problem, the IP addresses change back to the default setting...and now the internet is available but still nothing is available on the network. The only way I resolved this issue was by editing the Hosts files in the system directory. There is obviously something I am missing with this problem but I can find nothing about, in Google, on how Windows 10 establishes the relationship between DHCP and the default IP addresses...it can not be this tough or no one would use Windows 10. If you or anyone else can figure out what the issue is, lead/link me to a explanation, I would be greatly appreciative. That said, the OS is very nice. The attention to detail is very good but this is still very much a beta product with lots of bug to fix and updates needed. I somehow expected differently but it is just like any of the other bleeding Linux distros I have played with. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:10:44 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Has anyone besides me been running the Windows 10 preview? I must say that I really like it. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 10:21:24 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 09:21:24 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] The next big things in cell phones In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1272568117.82525592.1432653684852.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: Supposedly, these phones are only available in China at the moment. The Yotaphone with its matte read-in-daylight screen is also going on sale in China today: http://www.gsmarena.com/yotaphone_2_launches_in_china_today-news-12390.php ...and then going on sale in Europe. What's this all about? Aren't we in North America good enough for the latest technology anymore? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:50:26 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The next big things in cell phones I don't know, Jim. I see TV ads for them all the time here in Toronto, and just assumed they must be for sales, else why advertise? A. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > I wonder when these Samsung's will be ready for sales? The only links I > could find were in China. > > Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 10:26:00 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 09:26:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <004d01d097a7$2bb10b20$83132160$@de> Message-ID: <1878137420.82529608.1432653960624.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Helmut: I am also only running Windows 10 beta in virtual VMWare. When it becomes a stable product, I might think otherwise. Thanks for the suggestion. I will give that a try. PS Are you running a network and if so is your Windows 10, seeing all the other computers and is able to use their shares and printers? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helmut Kotsch" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:29:03 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Jim, I only run Windows 10 as a virtual machine under VMware. No problems whatsoever. I really like it and do think it will be a success. Concerning the network/network connection I selected "Bridged(Automatic)" as the network adapter. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Jim Lawrence Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2015 05:27 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Arthur: I have, at least this weekend, but my experience was not quite as pleasant. That said, the product is very pretty. :-) The first issue I ran into was a BIOS issue which was reported as "not a 64 bit computer" error...nothing to do with it...it was Virtual Intel VT-x/EPT BIOS toggle error. Note, that no motherboard comes with this switch toggles on so you might think MS might check and give an appropriate error response. This error was followed by two registry errors but fortunately, there was a couple of command line scripts, posted, that saved the day plus forcing an update. Finally, when trying to setup the network domain and IP addresses is a bear, to say the least. It probably started when I responded "yes" to a single home computer. Windows did not even check for the local network or Active Windows server or any servers for that matter and created it own IP address range (???). Then having to fix this error is not simple. One set of instructions, off the internet, gave information, on how to access the "System Properties" suggested enter "join a domain" in the search bar and connect to the result. I had a few errors until the system had an update and that froze the OS and required a full boot to unlock. That is obviously not the proper way but the writer could find no other way to access that information. When adding the domain name the computer still requires a full system reboot. (I have become use to just stopping and starting the appropriate service). Next, the OS demands to resolve a connection to a DHCP server. By default it connects remotely to the Cloud...you can see where this is going...when IP addresses and server are matching (on the same network) and the Windows 10 box can see all systems public addresses, via command prompt, "arp -r" but can not connect to the network's shares and printers. If you allow the system to "fix" the DHCP problem, the IP addresses change back to the default setting...and now the internet is available but still nothing is available on the network. The only way I resolved this issue was by editing the Hosts files in the system directory. There is obviously something I am missing with this problem but I can find nothing about, in Google, on how Windows 10 establishes the relationship between DHCP and the default IP addresses...it can not be this tough or no one would use Windows 10. If you or anyone else can figure out what the issue is, lead/link me to a explanation, I would be greatly appreciative. That said, the OS is very nice. The attention to detail is very good but this is still very much a beta product with lots of bug to fix and updates needed. I somehow expected differently but it is just like any of the other bleeding Linux distros I have played with. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:10:44 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Has anyone besides me been running the Windows 10 preview? I must say that I really like it. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Tue May 26 11:06:40 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 16:06:40 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Message-ID: Hi Jim Mine runs in a Hyper-V machine under Windows 8.1 joined our Active Directory as any other machine. When I log on, I can see all printers, and drives are mapped as they should. The installation went with exactly zero issues, so I'm a bit surprised of all the trouble you have seen. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 26. maj 2015 17:26 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Helmut: I am also only running Windows 10 beta in virtual VMWare. When it becomes a stable product, I might think otherwise. Thanks for the suggestion. I will give that a try. PS Are you running a network and if so is your Windows 10, seeing all the other computers and is able to use their shares and printers? Jim From jbartow at winhaven.net Tue May 26 11:26:29 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 11:26:29 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] vulnerability has been uncovered in the NetUSB In-Reply-To: <432374621.81860649.1432571428073.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <432374621.81860649.1432571428073.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <04ed01d097d0$b8b29f10$2a17dd30$@winhaven.net> I agree. -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:30 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] vulnerability has been uncovered in the NetUSB Who ever decided to put a backdoor (or did so on purpose) in these devices has some explanation to make. Just by putting an open TCP port at address 20005 and not telling anyone is not a form of security. One port scan, from software would expose to hole, in a few minutes. For my bet, even though this hole could have been a programming accident, my bet is that it was done with intent. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Off Topic" , "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:29:02 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] vulnerability has been uncovered in the NetUSB Linux and router users beware: NetUSB is a Linux kernel module that allows for users to flash drives, plug printers and other USB-connected devices into their routers so that they can be accessed over the local network. http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/netusb-router-hacking.html _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue May 26 12:23:32 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 13:23:32 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can't find where the Control Panel is in Windows 10. I tried typing "Control Panel" into the little search bar beside the Start button but that didn't work. Does anyone know? Specifically, I need to get to the Network and Sharing Center so I can set up a new connection. Arthur From hkotsch at arcor.de Tue May 26 14:48:12 2015 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:48:12 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <1878137420.82529608.1432653960624.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <004d01d097a7$2bb10b20$83132160$@de> <1878137420.82529608.1432653960624.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <000001d097ec$e6b2d4e0$b4187ea0$@de> Hi Jim, >> PS Are you running a network and if so is your Windows 10, seeing all the other computers and is able to use their shares and printers? Yes, no problem. Helmut From hkotsch at arcor.de Tue May 26 14:59:42 2015 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:59:42 +0200 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000101d097ee$81937680$84ba6380$@de> Arthur, the following applies to the Build 10122 Version of the Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview. Start>> klick the 3 bars in the upper left corner>> go down to "All Apps">> go down the list and open "Windows System">> The list should show the "Control Panel" Icon. HTH Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Arthur Fuller Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2015 19:24 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? I can't find where the Control Panel is in Windows 10. I tried typing "Control Panel" into the little search bar beside the Start button but that didn't work. Does anyone know? Specifically, I need to get to the Network and Sharing Center so I can set up a new connection. Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 15:26:22 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:26:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1425544578.82778810.1432671982486.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: I am equally as surprised at all the issues I am having with this flavour of Windows. This is a mixed network with two windows servers, two Linux servers and a smattering of Windows, Linux and sometimes Apple tablets/laptops and desktops...every other system works flawlessly. Of course this is not a pure Microsoft world but any issues have always been easily manageable before. I will update my DNS, DHCP servers and Active-directory (...as this Windows station is now set as a Work Group and then join it to the the domain...) and narrow down the choices this station can make. I will just describe it as a Microsoftism and move on from there. If you can think of any reasons for this any comments could be helpful. Note: Windows 8.x and the previous Windows 10 version did not have this problem so it is a version dependant problem. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:06:40 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Jim Mine runs in a Hyper-V machine under Windows 8.1 joined our Active Directory as any other machine. When I log on, I can see all printers, and drives are mapped as they should. The installation went with exactly zero issues, so I'm a bit surprised of all the trouble you have seen. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 26. maj 2015 17:26 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Helmut: I am also only running Windows 10 beta in virtual VMWare. When it becomes a stable product, I might think otherwise. Thanks for the suggestion. I will give that a try. PS Are you running a network and if so is your Windows 10, seeing all the other computers and is able to use their shares and printers? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 15:50:18 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <501092810.82796039.1432673418430.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: Right-mouse-click, over the left corner icon and select the Control Panel option from the list. Everything after that looks like Windows 7 plus, from there on. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:23:32 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? I can't find where the Control Panel is in Windows 10. I tried typing "Control Panel" into the little search bar beside the Start button but that didn't work. Does anyone know? Specifically, I need to get to the Network and Sharing Center so I can set up a new connection. Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Tue May 26 16:10:21 2015 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 16:10:21 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <055e01d097f8$6051c6c0$20f55440$@winhaven.net> I use the shortcut keys these days, that way all windows work the same: Windows Key+R type "control" -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? I can't find where the Control Panel is in Windows 10. I tried typing "Control Panel" into the little search bar beside the Start button but that didn't work. Does anyone know? Specifically, I need to get to the Network and Sharing Center so I can set up a new connection. Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 16:34:25 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 15:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <000001d097ec$e6b2d4e0$b4187ea0$@de> Message-ID: <1227049811.82827524.1432676065206.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Helmut: Thanks, but your no help. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helmut Kotsch" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:48:12 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Jim, >> PS Are you running a network and if so is your Windows 10, seeing all the other computers and is able to use their shares and printers? Yes, no problem. Helmut _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue May 26 16:47:26 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 15:47:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <000001d097ec$e6b2d4e0$b4187ea0$@de> Message-ID: <1589030442.82838961.1432676846856.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Helmut: Did you new Windows 10, automatically select the local network address default or did it have to be set? Is your network a workgroup or a domain? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helmut Kotsch" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:48:12 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Jim, >> PS Are you running a network and if so is your Windows 10, seeing all the other computers and is able to use their shares and printers? Yes, no problem. Helmut _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed May 27 04:11:47 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <1589030442.82838961.1432676846856.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <000001d097ec$e6b2d4e0$b4187ea0$@de> <1589030442.82838961.1432676846856.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Jim, I followed your instructions for finding the Control Panel and successfully opened it. Then I went back to the menu system and this time right-clicked on it and selected "Pin to Start", which resulted in a new tile being placed on the set of tiles. Terrific! Then I did the same with Command Prompt. Excellent! Now both are two clicks away: one on the Start button and one on the tile. I like this! Arthur P.S. Unlike you guys, I opted not for a VM but converted my Windows 8.1 base OS to Win 10. But then I decided to follow your lead and so created a VM also running Win 10. That one I'll leave in its virgin state, i.e. no FireFox etc. so I can get used to Edge. There's something amusing about running a Win 10 VM inside a Win 10 base OS. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Helmut: > > Did you new Windows 10, automatically select the local network address > default or did it have to be set? Is your network a workgroup or a domain? > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helmut Kotsch" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:48:12 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? > > Hi Jim, > > >> PS Are you running a network and if so is your Windows 10, seeing all > the other computers and is able to use their shares and printers? > > Yes, no problem. > > Helmut > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 27 09:39:32 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 08:39:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <511332646.83289716.1432737572014.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: Very pleased to hear that everything went as planned. :-) I might not have migrated my Windows 8.1 to 10 as 10 is but a time limited beta...just a heads up. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:11:47 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Jim, I followed your instructions for finding the Control Panel and successfully opened it. Then I went back to the menu system and this time right-clicked on it and selected "Pin to Start", which resulted in a new tile being placed on the set of tiles. Terrific! Then I did the same with Command Prompt. Excellent! Now both are two clicks away: one on the Start button and one on the tile. I like this! Arthur P.S. Unlike you guys, I opted not for a VM but converted my Windows 8.1 base OS to Win 10. But then I decided to follow your lead and so created a VM also running Win 10. That one I'll leave in its virgin state, i.e. no FireFox etc. so I can get used to Edge. There's something amusing about running a Win 10 VM inside a Win 10 base OS. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Helmut: > > Did you new Windows 10, automatically select the local network address > default or did it have to be set? Is your network a workgroup or a domain? > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helmut Kotsch" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:48:12 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? > > Hi Jim, > > >> PS Are you running a network and if so is your Windows 10, seeing all > the other computers and is able to use their shares and printers? > > Yes, no problem. > > Helmut > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 27 11:55:51 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 10:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <004d01d097a7$2bb10b20$83132160$@de> Message-ID: <1766385405.83417220.1432745751783.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Helmut: I did as you suggested and it worked. "Bridged(Automatic)" was not the default and no where have I found any reference or explanation but when reading the short description it all makes sense. Thank you very much. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helmut Kotsch" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:29:03 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Jim, I only run Windows 10 as a virtual machine under VMware. No problems whatsoever. I really like it and do think it will be a success. Concerning the network/network connection I selected "Bridged(Automatic)" as the network adapter. Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Jim Lawrence Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2015 05:27 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Arthur: I have, at least this weekend, but my experience was not quite as pleasant. That said, the product is very pretty. :-) The first issue I ran into was a BIOS issue which was reported as "not a 64 bit computer" error...nothing to do with it...it was Virtual Intel VT-x/EPT BIOS toggle error. Note, that no motherboard comes with this switch toggles on so you might think MS might check and give an appropriate error response. This error was followed by two registry errors but fortunately, there was a couple of command line scripts, posted, that saved the day plus forcing an update. Finally, when trying to setup the network domain and IP addresses is a bear, to say the least. It probably started when I responded "yes" to a single home computer. Windows did not even check for the local network or Active Windows server or any servers for that matter and created it own IP address range (???). Then having to fix this error is not simple. One set of instructions, off the internet, gave information, on how to access the "System Properties" suggested enter "join a domain" in the search bar and connect to the result. I had a few errors until the system had an update and that froze the OS and required a full boot to unlock. That is obviously not the proper way but the writer could find no other way to access that information. When adding the domain name the computer still requires a full system reboot. (I have become use to just stopping and starting the appropriate service). Next, the OS demands to resolve a connection to a DHCP server. By default it connects remotely to the Cloud...you can see where this is going...when IP addresses and server are matching (on the same network) and the Windows 10 box can see all systems public addresses, via command prompt, "arp -r" but can not connect to the network's shares and printers. If you allow the system to "fix" the DHCP problem, the IP addresses change back to the default setting...and now the internet is available but still nothing is available on the network. The only way I resolved this issue was by editing the Hosts files in the system directory. There is obviously something I am missing with this problem but I can find nothing about, in Google, on how Windows 10 establishes the relationship between DHCP and the default IP addresses...it can not be this tough or no one would use Windows 10. If you or anyone else can figure out what the issue is, lead/link me to a explanation, I would be greatly appreciative. That said, the OS is very nice. The attention to detail is very good but this is still very much a beta product with lots of bug to fix and updates needed. I somehow expected differently but it is just like any of the other bleeding Linux distros I have played with. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:10:44 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Has anyone besides me been running the Windows 10 preview? I must say that I really like it. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed May 27 12:54:00 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 17:54:00 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <1766385405.83417220.1432745751783.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <004d01d097a7$2bb10b20$83132160$@de>, <1766385405.83417220.1432745751783.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Hi Jim Ah, that explains the mess. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-Tech p? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 27. maj 2015 18:55 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Helmut: I did as you suggested and it worked. "Bridged(Automatic)" was not the default and no where have I found any reference or explanation but when reading the short description it all makes sense. Thank you very much. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helmut Kotsch" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:29:03 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Jim, I only run Windows 10 as a virtual machine under VMware. No problems whatsoever. I really like it and do think it will be a success. Concerning the network/network connection I selected "Bridged(Automatic)" as the network adapter. Helmut From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 27 17:47:35 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 16:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <532652059.83664820.1432766855532.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: Embarrassing to say the least...but I'll get over it. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:54:00 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Jim Ah, that explains the mess. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-Tech p? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 27. maj 2015 18:55 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Helmut: I did as you suggested and it worked. "Bridged(Automatic)" was not the default and no where have I found any reference or explanation but when reading the short description it all makes sense. Thank you very much. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helmut Kotsch" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:29:03 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi Jim, I only run Windows 10 as a virtual machine under VMware. No problems whatsoever. I really like it and do think it will be a success. Concerning the network/network connection I selected "Bridged(Automatic)" as the network adapter. Helmut _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed May 27 18:11:32 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 17:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Office suite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1498876357.83678860.1432768292121.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: We have another office suite. It has three parts to it, a word processor, a presentation manager and a spreadsheet. Considering the price, these packages are excellent. They can import and export all Microsoft formats and the application does not require the Web or Cloud. As far as I can see these packages are just as good as Microsoft's flag ships but I have not done extensive work in the Kingsoft suite. http://wps-community.org The product is still in active development and it now supports both 32 and 64 bit CPUs. It seems very stable as I was unable to crash it. Though the product is not open source it is free for download...any donations cheerfully accepted though. :-) On thing that might bother some potential users is the application was designed in China but as long as you are not making secret plans, that you don't want the whole world to know, then it is not a problem. It is Linux, so you may have to make a Linux virtual drive to enjoy the well priced program...but only in the unlikely event that you don't have a Linux distro installed on one of your boxes. For me, it is nice to have all the latest features and not have to be making monthly 365 payments. PS This Office suite is supposed to be better than LibraOffice but you wouldn't know it by me. It may be a little prettier though. Jim From gustav at cactus.dk Sun May 31 03:39:58 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 08:39:58 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: <532652059.83664820.1432766855532.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: , <532652059.83664820.1432766855532.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Hi all I installed the 10130 build, and I'm a happy man because the fullscreen Start page is back as a (default) option under Settings, Personalization, Start, Start behaviors. Also, the original Windows NT/95 trashcan in up-down pyramide stub design is back, although the applied green recycling logo has warped into blue. Surprise. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 31 13:28:19 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 12:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2020929159.86142224.1433096899644.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: Well, there you have it. A definite winner. :-) ...and all it took was full screen mode and a trash can. ;-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:39:58 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 anyone? Hi all I installed the 10130 build, and I'm a happy man because the fullscreen Start page is back as a (default) option under Settings, Personalization, Start, Start behaviors. Also, the original Windows NT/95 trashcan in up-down pyramide stub design is back, although the applied green recycling logo has warped into blue. Surprise. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 31 14:39:27 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 12:39:27 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized Message-ID: I have a Dell Inspiron laptop which until 2 days ago performed magnificently. Then it suddenly lost track of a file in the boot directory that prevented it from booting at all. I fought valiantly and initially thought I had solved it, but alas, no. So I renewed the battle on the second day and this time emerged victorious. But not quite. The laptop boots just fine again, into the Windows 10 Preview, but now it's lost track of the second monitor. I double-checked the monitor itself by swapping it into my ancient tower machine, and there it works fine. But the laptop cannot see it. I've powered it down, reconnected it, powered it back up, and still no dice. I guess I can suffer through this one-monitor hell, but it was a lot more fun with a pair, the secondary being a nice Acer 22". I miss it. Any suggestions? Advice on how to make Win10 realize that a second monitor is attached? The Detect button didn't succeed. -- Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 31 15:27:53 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:27:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] ownCloud In-Reply-To: <1498876357.83678860.1432768292121.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1521265194.86187983.1433104073415.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi All: I finally have a copy of ownCloud running on a server. The only initial expenses is the cost of a Domain name and that can be as cheap $1.49 per year. The great thing about ownCloud is the you can share, upload and download, using any policy, privilege or encryption arrangement you wish, with family, friends and business associates and with any number of files and file types, via any web browser. The amount of data is only limited by your resources. That of course is just the start. Most files type can also be read, viewed, added, deleted and even collaborated with like documents and spreadsheets...even graphic and software development collaborations are coming on line. This is done through a series of "plugins" and APIs which, for the most part run on the client's computers, so it is low over head on the server and on the client. There are also plugins/APIs which extend it capabilities, like torrent mail, various levels of data synchronization and backups. If you consider a business?s ownCloud like a node, which dozens of clients can connect to, for access to resource then clusters of nodes (ownCloud sites) can be federated together. Some existing "federations" have exceed 5000 nodes...all sharing data and resources. The product is also capable of integrating with other Cloud structures, SharePoint, Windows network drives, Dropbox and with Cloud management and tools applications like Juju. So far all I have been sharing is family photos but I have been testing some word documents and spreadsheets. I would also like to see is a database can be shared but that is for future efforts. It is easy to initially setup and many instruction say that it should take no more than ten minutes. For the full-meal-deal check out the following link where even hosting and full-time support arrangements can be made. This product is basically a poor man's Share-Point and Cloud hosting system, with most and maybe more features, personal security and private ownership. https://owncloud.com/owncloud-overview ...and... https://owncloud.com/products/enterprise Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 31 15:37:01 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:37:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2027081210.86190580.1433104621072.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: It appears that you have some hard drive and/or data corruption. Have you ran some testing tools on your drives to see if there is some damage or corruption. I could suggest some tools if you have not but that of course depends on what your file-system is. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:39:27 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized I have a Dell Inspiron laptop which until 2 days ago performed magnificently. Then it suddenly lost track of a file in the boot directory that prevented it from booting at all. I fought valiantly and initially thought I had solved it, but alas, no. So I renewed the battle on the second day and this time emerged victorious. But not quite. The laptop boots just fine again, into the Windows 10 Preview, but now it's lost track of the second monitor. I double-checked the monitor itself by swapping it into my ancient tower machine, and there it works fine. But the laptop cannot see it. I've powered it down, reconnected it, powered it back up, and still no dice. I guess I can suffer through this one-monitor hell, but it was a lot more fun with a pair, the secondary being a nice Acer 22". I miss it. Any suggestions? Advice on how to make Win10 realize that a second monitor is attached? The Detect button didn't succeed. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 31 20:33:24 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 18:33:24 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized In-Reply-To: <2027081210.86190580.1433104621072.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <2027081210.86190580.1433104621072.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Hi Jim, Yeah, there was some corruption damage, and it took me two days and a bunch of tries with various tools to re-stabilize the system. It's Windows 10 Preview on an Dell Inspiron laptop. I'm kind of out of ideas currently, and learning to live with the one-monitor thing, but I surely do miss that second monitor. A. On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > It appears that you have some hard drive and/or data corruption. Have you > ran some testing tools on your drives to see if there is some damage or > corruption. I could suggest some tools if you have not but that of course > depends on what your file-system is. > > Jim From garykjos at gmail.com Sun May 31 20:44:32 2015 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 20:44:32 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized In-Reply-To: References: <2027081210.86190580.1433104621072.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Is there some kind of a hot key combination to activate the external monitor port on the laptop? Perhaps you need to execute that to get access to that port. GK On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Yeah, there was some corruption damage, and it took me two days and a bunch > of tries with various tools to re-stabilize the system. It's Windows 10 > Preview on an Dell Inspiron laptop. I'm kind of out of ideas currently, and > learning to live with the one-monitor thing, but I surely do miss that > second monitor. > > A. > > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Hi Arthur: >> >> It appears that you have some hard drive and/or data corruption. Have you >> ran some testing tools on your drives to see if there is some damage or >> corruption. I could suggest some tools if you have not but that of course >> depends on what your file-system is. >> >> Jim > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun May 31 20:49:34 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 18:49:34 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized In-Reply-To: References: <2027081210.86190580.1433104621072.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Gary, An interesting suggestion. I'll have to dig out the docs and see if you're right, but it has the smell of correctness to it. I hadn't thought of that. In the course of my battles to get this sucker working again, it could well be that I accidentally triggered the keystroke combination that disables it. Thanks for the suggestion! A. On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Gary Kjos wrote: > Is there some kind of a hot key combination to activate the external > monitor port on the laptop? Perhaps you need to execute that to get > access to that port. > > GK From accessd at shaw.ca Sun May 31 22:07:53 2015 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 21:07:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1482058854.86352401.1433128073351.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Arthur: Is your OS a single type with virtual drives or has the hard drive been made into multiple partitions? The current Windows 10 is just a beta and until it comes out in its final version I would keep it separated in it own VD...maybe not even then. Do you have a system backup and can format and re-install? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 6:33:24 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Suddenly second monitor not recognized Hi Jim, Yeah, there was some corruption damage, and it took me two days and a bunch of tries with various tools to re-stabilize the system. It's Windows 10 Preview on an Dell Inspiron laptop. I'm kind of out of ideas currently, and learning to live with the one-monitor thing, but I surely do miss that second monitor. A. On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Arthur: > > It appears that you have some hard drive and/or data corruption. Have you > ran some testing tools on your drives to see if there is some damage or > corruption. I could suggest some tools if you have not but that of course > depends on what your file-system is. > > Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com