From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Sep  1 07:29:56 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:29:56 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Great_JS_PDF_Viewer=2E=2E=2E?=
Message-ID: <1441110596.432024544@f333.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

Here is a greate JS PDF Viewer

http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html


but I cannot find how they define the url/path to the .pdf file to be loaded/viwed, do you? - the sources are here:

https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web

BTW, if you try the above link ( http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html ) on your smartphone it should also work, I suppose, as it worked on my old Nokia Lumia 800.

Enjoy!


Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Sep  2 15:21:50 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:21:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Automate your whole house
In-Reply-To: <735042127.5292840.1441047188476.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <2095254189.7056607.1441225310282.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

You can now automate your whole house with off-the-shelf components.

Check out the following:  https://www.particle.io/

...and... https://store.particle.io/

Jim


From robert at servicexp.com  Wed Sep  2 17:48:20 2015
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 18:48:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Automate your whole house
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	<2095254189.7056607.1441225310282.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
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Is it Home Automation or Home Control?

I started with Z-Wave, using Vera as the controller (have since moved to
HomeSeer), then found the MySensors project and now build more Arduino based
automation devices than I make in Z-Wave purchases..

Been doing HA for a couple of years now with MySensors.org and Arduino's..
It's loads of fun!


WBR
Robert


-----Original Message-----
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Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Automate your whole house

You can now automate your whole house with off-the-shelf components.

Check out the following:  https://www.particle.io/

...and... https://store.particle.io/

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Sep  2 19:56:23 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 18:56:23 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
In-Reply-To: <1441110596.432024544@f333.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1013214511.7248064.1441241783566.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

I went one step back up the directory tree to:

https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web

...and downloaded the ZIP file, expanded it. 

The directory of interest is "web" and the start html file within that directory is "viewer.html". Note: The PDF file is in that root directory and is called "compressed.tracemonkey-pldi-09.pdf" The file name is assigned to the global variable "URL", in the JavaScript file named "viewer.js" (loaded and called from the "viewer.html" file), on line 30 but it can be assigned anywhere within the html application or via a config file. See the JavaScript function file, "download_manager.js" which assembles the PDF url, for the actual downloading code.  

Aside: The code is really nice and should be used as reference material. :-)

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:29:56 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...

 Hi All --

Here is a greate JS PDF Viewer

http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html


but I cannot find how they define the url/path to the .pdf file to be loaded/viwed, do you? - the sources are here:

https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web

BTW, if you try the above link ( http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html ) on your smartphone it should also work, I suppose, as it worked on my old Nokia Lumia 800.

Enjoy!


Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Sep  2 21:38:16 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 20:38:16 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Automate your whole house
In-Reply-To: <003f01d0e5d1$78e259d0$6aa70d70$@com>
Message-ID: <281229661.7302900.1441247896766.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Wow, I would love to here some of your experiences. I think with the linked company, given the controllers, capability of programming them and the sensors that can be attached, virtually anything is possible.  

I am waiting on a podcast given from a fellow who has totally automated his house. I will send you the link when the program is posted.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert" <robert at servicexp.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 3:48:20 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Automate your whole house

Is it Home Automation or Home Control?

I started with Z-Wave, using Vera as the controller (have since moved to
HomeSeer), then found the MySensors project and now build more Arduino based
automation devices than I make in Z-Wave purchases..

Been doing HA for a couple of years now with MySensors.org and Arduino's..
It's loads of fun!


WBR
Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Automate your whole house

You can now automate your whole house with off-the-shelf components.

Check out the following:  https://www.particle.io/

...and... https://store.particle.io/

Jim

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Sep  3 02:12:30 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:12:30 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Great_JS_PDF_Viewer=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1013214511.7248064.1441241783566.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
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	<1013214511.7248064.1441241783566.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1441264350.354288477@f313.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Thank you! I somehow missed to find this default .pdf file assignment.

Now, here are two challenges:

- 1. load .pdf from a url/fileName passed to the viewer.html in url parameter, e.g:

? ? {custom site pdf viewer url}/viewer.html?pdfFile={myTestPdfFileUrl}

- 2. load .pdf via AJAX call(s) from a web service, which attributes are passed to the viewer.html would in url parameters, e.g:

? ? {custom site pdf viewer url}/viewer.html?service={webServiceEndPointl}&pdfFileCode={guid}&...

Anybody?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Wednesday, September  2, 2015 6:56 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I went one step back up the directory tree to:
>
>https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web
>
>...and downloaded the ZIP file, expanded it. 
>
>The directory of interest is "web" and the start html file within that directory is "viewer.html". Note: The PDF file is in that root directory and is called "compressed.tracemonkey-pldi-09.pdf" The file name is assigned to the global variable "URL", in the JavaScript file named "viewer.js" (loaded and called from the "viewer.html" file), on line 30 but it can be assigned anywhere within the html application or via a config file. See the JavaScript function file, "download_manager.js" which assembles the PDF url, for the actual downloading code. 
>
>Aside: The code is really nice and should be used as reference material. :-)
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:29:56 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Here is a greate JS PDF Viewer
>
>http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html
>
>
>but I cannot find how they define the url/path to the .pdf file to be loaded/viwed, do you? - the sources are here:
>
>https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web
>
>BTW, if you try the above link (  http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html ) on your smartphone it should also work, I suppose, as it worked on my old Nokia Lumia 800.
>
>Enjoy!
>
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Sep  3 19:53:41 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 18:53:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
In-Reply-To: <1441264350.354288477@f313.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <657316924.8067440.1441328021308.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

First thing to note is that the PDF display code is just a function for a larger application. Pay attention to the universal variable that hold and are assembled the entire URL. Check how the  "download_manager.js" assembles the entire PDF URL. Comment out the default assignments within the Viewer code and assign them from the application calling this code. In other words assign the Global variables within the caller routines.

Second, you could do something as simple as pass the Viewer routine, the URL via parameters. Its not classy but it is simple and it works. 

Then there is HTML5's sessionStorage:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11609376/passing-data-between-html-pages

Jim      

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 12:12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...

 Hi Jim --

Thank you! I somehow missed to find this default .pdf file assignment.

Now, here are two challenges:

- 1. load .pdf from a url/fileName passed to the viewer.html in url parameter, e.g:

? ? {custom site pdf viewer url}/viewer.html?pdfFile={myTestPdfFileUrl}

- 2. load .pdf via AJAX call(s) from a web service, which attributes are passed to the viewer.html would in url parameters, e.g:

? ? {custom site pdf viewer url}/viewer.html?service={webServiceEndPointl}&pdfFileCode={guid}&...

Anybody?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Wednesday, September  2, 2015 6:56 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I went one step back up the directory tree to:
>
>https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web
>
>...and downloaded the ZIP file, expanded it. 
>
>The directory of interest is "web" and the start html file within that directory is "viewer.html". Note: The PDF file is in that root directory and is called "compressed.tracemonkey-pldi-09.pdf" The file name is assigned to the global variable "URL", in the JavaScript file named "viewer.js" (loaded and called from the "viewer.html" file), on line 30 but it can be assigned anywhere within the html application or via a config file. See the JavaScript function file, "download_manager.js" which assembles the PDF url, for the actual downloading code. 
>
>Aside: The code is really nice and should be used as reference material. :-)
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:29:56 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
>
>?Hi All --
>
>Here is a greate JS PDF Viewer
>
>http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html
>
>
>but I cannot find how they define the url/path to the .pdf file to be loaded/viwed, do you? - the sources are here:
>
>https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web
>
>BTW, if you try the above link (  http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html ) on your smartphone it should also work, I suppose, as it worked on my old Nokia Lumia 800.
>
>Enjoy!
>
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Sep  4 05:46:44 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:46:44 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Great_JS_PDF_Viewer=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <657316924.8067440.1441328021308.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1441264350.354288477@f313.i.mail.ru>
	<657316924.8067440.1441328021308.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1441363604.44180604@f304.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Thank you for your comment. I hope I will find time to do that - very busy with other work but I do plan to include the subject viewer into my solution (as I have noted it works even on my good old Nokia Lumia 800)...

I was a kind of expecting to get here "ready to use" advise/step-by-step subject sources' edition procedure to get it feeded 

- with and external url PDF file or
- even with a web service call returning/piping a pdf generated on-the-fly on that web service side ?:) 

Never mind.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

P.S. BTW, after I will finish a couple of urgent current projects I wanted to apply the subject PDF viewer to a sample ASP.NET web site I plan to develop from our Northwind.NET sources ( https://northwind.codeplex.com/ ) - so if anybody here have free time to solve the task of feeding JS PDF Viewer with and external PDF URL and with SOAP(/.asmx) / RESTFul (/WCF, ASP.NET Web API) then you'll be credited in to be developed and published (hopefully this fall) sources/docs of a sample Northwind.NET ASP.NET web site at? https://northwind.codeplex.com/


>Thursday, September  3, 2015 6:53 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>First thing to note is that the PDF display code is just a function for a larger application. Pay attention to the universal variable that hold and are assembled the entire URL. Check how the  "download_manager.js" assembles the entire PDF URL. Comment out the default assignments within the Viewer code and assign them from the application calling this code. In other words assign the Global variables within the caller routines.
>
>Second, you could do something as simple as pass the Viewer routine, the URL via parameters. Its not classy but it is simple and it works. 
>
>Then there is HTML5's sessionStorage:
>
>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11609376/passing-data-between-html-pages
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 12:12:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Thank you! I somehow missed to find this default .pdf file assignment.
>
>Now, here are two challenges:
>
>- 1. load .pdf from a url/fileName passed to the viewer.html in url parameter, e.g:
>
>? ? {custom site pdf viewer url}/viewer.html?pdfFile={myTestPdfFileUrl}
>
>- 2. load .pdf via AJAX call(s) from a web service, which attributes are passed to the viewer.html would in url parameters, e.g:
>
>? ? {custom site pdf viewer url}/viewer.html?service={webServiceEndPointl}&pdfFileCode={guid}&...
>
>Anybody?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Wednesday, September  2, 2015 6:56 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>I went one step back up the directory tree to:
>>
>> https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web
>>
>>...and downloaded the ZIP file, expanded it. 
>>
>>The directory of interest is "web" and the start html file within that directory is "viewer.html". Note: The PDF file is in that root directory and is called "compressed.tracemonkey-pldi-09.pdf" The file name is assigned to the global variable "URL", in the JavaScript file named "viewer.js" (loaded and called from the "viewer.html" file), on line 30 but it can be assigned anywhere within the html application or via a config file. See the JavaScript function file, "download_manager.js" which assembles the PDF url, for the actual downloading code. 
>>
>>Aside: The code is really nice and should be used as reference material. :-)
>>
>>Jim 
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:29:56 AM
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
>>
>>?Hi All --
>>
>>Here is a greate JS PDF Viewer
>>
>> http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html
>>
>>
>>but I cannot find how they define the url/path to the .pdf file to be loaded/viwed, do you? - the sources are here:
>>
>> https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web
>>
>>BTW, if you try the above link (  http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html ) on your smartphone it should also work, I suppose, as it worked on my old Nokia Lumia 800.
>>
>>Enjoy!
>>
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- 
>>???????????? ??????
>>_______________________________________________
>>dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Sep  4 11:25:20 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:25:20 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Who is biggest in the Cloud
In-Reply-To: <1013214511.7248064.1441241783566.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <214124465.8851385.1441383920826.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

According to the latest statistics Amazon?s cloud is 10x bigger than its next 14 competitors, combined. Companies like Azure are tiny in comparison.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2925186/cloud-computing/gartner-amazon-s-cloud-is-10x-bigger-than-its-next-14-competitors-combined.html

But if we are counting the world then Alibaba Is Huge.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-23/you-thought-amazon-s-cloud-was-big-alibaba-s-is-huge

Jim 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Sep  4 11:53:49 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:53:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
In-Reply-To: <1441363604.44180604@f304.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <645957985.8880032.1441385629893.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

You definitely are a dreamer. ;-) You will have to assemble your own FE for sure but it can be done with but a few lines of html code. Haven't you heard, everything is web based now? ;-)  

Good to hear that you are now gainfully employed. 
 
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 3:46:44 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...

 Hi Jim --

Thank you for your comment. I hope I will find time to do that - very busy with other work but I do plan to include the subject viewer into my solution (as I have noted it works even on my good old Nokia Lumia 800)...

I was a kind of expecting to get here "ready to use" advise/step-by-step subject sources' edition procedure to get it feeded 

- with and external url PDF file or
- even with a web service call returning/piping a pdf generated on-the-fly on that web service side ?:) 

Never mind.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

P.S. BTW, after I will finish a couple of urgent current projects I wanted to apply the subject PDF viewer to a sample ASP.NET web site I plan to develop from our Northwind.NET sources ( https://northwind.codeplex.com/ ) - so if anybody here have free time to solve the task of feeding JS PDF Viewer with and external PDF URL and with SOAP(/.asmx) / RESTFul (/WCF, ASP.NET Web API) then you'll be credited in to be developed and published (hopefully this fall) sources/docs of a sample Northwind.NET ASP.NET web site at? https://northwind.codeplex.com/


>Thursday, September  3, 2015 6:53 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>First thing to note is that the PDF display code is just a function for a larger application. Pay attention to the universal variable that hold and are assembled the entire URL. Check how the  "download_manager.js" assembles the entire PDF URL. Comment out the default assignments within the Viewer code and assign them from the application calling this code. In other words assign the Global variables within the caller routines.
>
>Second, you could do something as simple as pass the Viewer routine, the URL via parameters. Its not classy but it is simple and it works. 
>
>Then there is HTML5's sessionStorage:
>
>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11609376/passing-data-between-html-pages
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 12:12:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Thank you! I somehow missed to find this default .pdf file assignment.
>
>Now, here are two challenges:
>
>- 1. load .pdf from a url/fileName passed to the viewer.html in url parameter, e.g:
>
>? ? {custom site pdf viewer url}/viewer.html?pdfFile={myTestPdfFileUrl}
>
>- 2. load .pdf via AJAX call(s) from a web service, which attributes are passed to the viewer.html would in url parameters, e.g:
>
>? ? {custom site pdf viewer url}/viewer.html?service={webServiceEndPointl}&pdfFileCode={guid}&...
>
>Anybody?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Wednesday, September  2, 2015 6:56 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>I went one step back up the directory tree to:
>>
>> https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web
>>
>>...and downloaded the ZIP file, expanded it. 
>>
>>The directory of interest is "web" and the start html file within that directory is "viewer.html". Note: The PDF file is in that root directory and is called "compressed.tracemonkey-pldi-09.pdf" The file name is assigned to the global variable "URL", in the JavaScript file named "viewer.js" (loaded and called from the "viewer.html" file), on line 30 but it can be assigned anywhere within the html application or via a config file. See the JavaScript function file, "download_manager.js" which assembles the PDF url, for the actual downloading code. 
>>
>>Aside: The code is really nice and should be used as reference material. :-)
>>
>>Jim 
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:29:56 AM
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
>>
>>?Hi All --
>>
>>Here is a greate JS PDF Viewer
>>
>> http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html
>>
>>
>>but I cannot find how they define the url/path to the .pdf file to be loaded/viwed, do you? - the sources are here:
>>
>> https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/tree/master/web
>>
>>BTW, if you try the above link (  http://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/web/viewer.html ) on your smartphone it should also work, I suppose, as it worked on my old Nokia Lumia 800.
>>
>>Enjoy!
>>
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Sep  4 13:44:42 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 21:44:42 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Great_JS_PDF_Viewer=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <645957985.8880032.1441385629893.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1441363604.44180604@f304.i.mail.ru>
	<645957985.8880032.1441385629893.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1441392282.763746598@f361.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

>>?Haven't you heard, everything is web based now? ;-)?
I did - this is exactly what I'm doing here now but FE part of this web app is just a tiny layer, and its back-end has to be done ASAP.

I have just thought somebody here will need (advanced HTML/JS PDF Viewer) FE first of all - so I will borrow their ready to use solution when my BE part will be ready ;)

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Friday, September  4, 2015 10:53 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>You definitely are a dreamer. ;-) You will have to assemble your own FE for sure but it can be done with but a few lines of html code. Haven't you heard, everything is web based now? ;-) 
>
>Good to hear that you are now gainfully employed. 
>
>Jim

<<< skipped >>>
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Sep  4 14:21:25 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 13:21:25 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Converting Flash to HTML5
In-Reply-To: <214124465.8851385.1441383920826.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1142888776.8999049.1441394485852.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Google has recently announced that it will be converting all flash ads to HTML5.

To accomplish that task there is a free online app that does the conversion for you. It can easily be accessed from your other applications and will perform the translation, quietly, in the background.

https://developers.google.com/swiffy/?hl=en (I assume the suffix at the end of the URL defines the language of the page and instructions.)

So far my experience with the product has been all through reading. If anyone has used this app or has experience deploying it and has accessed the quality of the results, please post.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Sep  4 14:31:13 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 13:31:13 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
In-Reply-To: <1441392282.763746598@f361.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <632555663.9005959.1441395073532.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

I am curious as to what back end are your using? I would suspect .Net and MS SQL but there are so many exotic BE databases, server side languages and supported on a selection of platforms...Cloud and other hosted web based servers. And then IIS, Apache, nginx and so on, depending on the OS you are working with.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 11:44:42 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...

 Hi Jim --

>>?Haven't you heard, everything is web based now? ;-)?
I did - this is exactly what I'm doing here now but FE part of this web app is just a tiny layer, and its back-end has to be done ASAP.

I have just thought somebody here will need (advanced HTML/JS PDF Viewer) FE first of all - so I will borrow their ready to use solution when my BE part will be ready ;)

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Friday, September  4, 2015 10:53 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>You definitely are a dreamer. ;-) You will have to assemble your own FE for sure but it can be done with but a few lines of html code. Haven't you heard, everything is web based now? ;-) 
>
>Good to hear that you are now gainfully employed. 
>
>Jim

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Sep  4 23:47:57 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 07:47:57 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Great_JS_PDF_Viewer=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <632555663.9005959.1441395073532.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1441392282.763746598@f361.i.mail.ru>
	<632555663.9005959.1441395073532.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1441428477.702991558@f191.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim ?--

I'm working for money, you know ;) - back-end technology is defined/selected by a customer. It's MS SQL. Besides Oracle, do you know any other SQL backends, which allow to develop so advanced stored procedures and user defined functions as MS SQL 2012 and up do? - the task here is do put as much as possible business and data access "data crunching" processing on back-end side...

I'd love to learn/use the technologies/tools from your list but I doubt I'll ever have time for them. and .NET Framework/C# aren't that far from modern dynamic languages and sometimes a way ahead of the modern strongly typed ones in their features, I'd outline applicable in real life programming features, which make this real life programming very effective, and they (C#/.NET Framework/ASP.NET) have so much new features coming every year, e.g. I was a kind of surprised when I have made a template ASP.NET project and it worked well (flexibly adapted to a target device display area) out-of-the-box on Win 8, old WinPhone, Kindle Fire, iPhone, Android...

NodeJS is in my list, I'd move quite a few of the programs of my customers on this technology but who knows it may happen a new binary format for Web ( http://tinyurl.com/qfuahn5 ) will come implemented real soon and C/C++, C#, .... will become "web scripting languages"...

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Friday, September  4, 2015 1:31 PM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I am curious as to what back end are your using? I would suspect .Net and MS SQL but there are so many exotic BE databases, server side languages and supported on a selection of platforms...Cloud and other hosted web based servers. And then IIS, Apache, nginx and so on, depending on the OS you are working with.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 11:44:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Great JS PDF Viewer...
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>>>?Haven't you heard, everything is web based now? ;-)?
>I did - this is exactly what I'm doing here now but FE part of this web app is just a tiny layer, and its back-end has to be done ASAP.
>
>I have just thought somebody here will need (advanced HTML/JS PDF Viewer) FE first of all - so I will borrow their ready to use solution when my BE part will be ready ;)
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Friday, September  4, 2015 10:53 AM -06:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>You definitely are a dreamer. ;-) You will have to assemble your own FE for sure but it can be done with but a few lines of html code. Haven't you heard, everything is web based now? ;-) 
>>
>>Good to hear that you are now gainfully employed. 
>>
>>Jim
>
><<< skipped >>>
>>

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Sep  8 08:02:17 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 16:02:17 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
Message-ID: <1441717337.299351165@f292.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

I'm not yet in Win10 camp, AFAIS I have got Win10 setup(?) "automagically" downloaded and it's ready to go with "Great, we'll get the upgrade started" dialog asking me to accept this setup process but I'm currently behind a mobile Internet connection so I'm keeping this Win10 setup start-up dialog idle. 
When I have checked my system disk space I was surprised its used space almost doubled from usual 100+GB to 200GB, - is it a usual story for Win10 setup files volume? 
And this my system disk is an SSD disk, which has only 256GB so I'm wondering will its currently free 50+GB volume be good enough for Win10 setup? Will here be all setup files purged after setup will complete? - I have a second 1TB HDD on the same system - is there any way to move Win10 setup there on my large HDD before I'll proceed with it?

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Sep  8 08:47:10 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 13:47:10 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system
 disk used space...
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB593E10722C01391997C21E4CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

As the first task, you could right-click your C drive, select Disk Clean Up, and - when ready - select Clean Up System Files.

That will probably allow you to regain several GB of disk space.

50 GB free space is enough for an update. The installer will tell you anyway before attempting the update.

However, as busy as you are now, I would postpone this for a while - except, of course, if you are missing specific features of Windows 10. It's best to have some spare time to play and tweak after the update.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 8. september 2015 15:02
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...

 Hi All --

I'm not yet in Win10 camp, AFAIS I have got Win10 setup(?) "automagically" downloaded and it's ready to go with "Great, we'll get the upgrade started" dialog asking me to accept this setup process but I'm currently behind a mobile Internet connection so I'm keeping this Win10 setup start-up dialog idle. 
When I have checked my system disk space I was surprised its used space almost doubled from usual 100+GB to 200GB, - is it a usual story for Win10 setup files volume? 
And this my system disk is an SSD disk, which has only 256GB so I'm wondering will its currently free 50+GB volume be good enough for Win10 setup? Will here be all setup files purged after setup will complete? - I have a second 1TB HDD on the same system - is there any way to move Win10 setup there on my large HDD before I'll proceed with it?

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ?????? 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Sep  8 09:31:24 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:31:24 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB593E10722C01391997C21E4CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB593E10722C01391997C21E4CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1441722684.576624946@f149.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for your comment.

>>?However, as busy as you are now, I would postpone this for a while?
Yes, I wanted to postpone Win10 upgrade till I finish a couple of urgent projects, but this starting upgrade dialog has appeared here on my system several times already and I have been closing it and my system used disk space was as usual around 100GB but now when I see it grown to almost 200GB (within just a week) I'm getting concerned wasn't that high system disk memory consumption caused by Win10 upgrade waiting to go? If I'll stop it a few more times wouldn't my system hang because of my system disk getting out of space? - AFAIS from the disk clean-up analysis I can free up to 69.3GB now - wouldn't that clean-up remove some of Win10 upgrade temp files, which it will need to download again?

My system free disk space is ~43GB now - I will check tomorrow how much it will change.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 1:47 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>As the first task, you could right-click your C drive, select Disk Clean Up, and - when ready - select Clean Up System Files.
>
>That will probably allow you to regain several GB of disk space.
>
>50 GB free space is enough for an update. The installer will tell you anyway before attempting the update.
>
>However, as busy as you are now, I would postpone this for a while - except, of course, if you are missing specific features of Windows 10. It's best to have some spare time to play and tweak after the update.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 8. september 2015 15:02
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I'm not yet in Win10 camp, AFAIS I have got Win10 setup(?) "automagically" downloaded and it's ready to go with "Great, we'll get the upgrade started" dialog asking me to accept this setup process but I'm currently behind a mobile Internet connection so I'm keeping this Win10 setup start-up dialog idle. 
>When I have checked my system disk space I was surprised its used space almost doubled from usual 100+GB to 200GB, - is it a usual story for Win10 setup files volume? 
>And this my system disk is an SSD disk, which has only 256GB so I'm wondering will its currently free 50+GB volume be good enough for Win10 setup? Will here be all setup files purged after setup will complete? - I have a second 1TB HDD on the same system - is there any way to move Win10 setup there on my large HDD before I'll proceed with it?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ?????? 
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Sep  8 09:40:22 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:40:22 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system
 disk used space...
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB59346A1AD0FECDA50F16240CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

I'm not sure. None of my upgrades followed this method, as it requires that your pc hasn't been connected to an Active Directory, which all of our machines have.

Someone else must chime in, but to me it sounds like the update is already unpacked and ready to install - just waiting for your signal. If so, don't run the Disk Clean Up and just watch if you disk usage isn't steady by now.

Nothing happens by waiting - you have until ultimo July next year.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 8. september 2015 16:31
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for your comment.

>>?However, as busy as you are now, I would postpone this for a while?
Yes, I wanted to postpone Win10 upgrade till I finish a couple of urgent projects, but this starting upgrade dialog has appeared here on my system several times already and I have been closing it and my system used disk space was as usual around 100GB but now when I see it grown to almost 200GB (within just a week) I'm getting concerned wasn't that high system disk memory consumption caused by Win10 upgrade waiting to go? If I'll stop it a few more times wouldn't my system hang because of my system disk getting out of space? - AFAIS from the disk clean-up analysis I can free up to 69.3GB now - wouldn't that clean-up remove some of Win10 upgrade temp files, which it will need to download again?

My system free disk space is ~43GB now - I will check tomorrow how much it will change.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 1:47 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>As the first task, you could right-click your C drive, select Disk Clean Up, and - when ready - select Clean Up System Files.
>
>That will probably allow you to regain several GB of disk space.
>
>50 GB free space is enough for an update. The installer will tell you anyway before attempting the update.
>
>However, as busy as you are now, I would postpone this for a while - except, of course, if you are missing specific features of Windows 10. It's best to have some spare time to play and tweak after the update.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 8. september 2015 15:02
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I'm not yet in Win10 camp, AFAIS I have got Win10 setup(?) "automagically" downloaded and it's ready to go with "Great, we'll get the upgrade started" dialog asking me to accept this setup process but I'm currently behind a mobile Internet connection so I'm keeping this Win10 setup start-up dialog idle. 
>When I have checked my system disk space I was surprised its used space almost doubled from usual 100+GB to 200GB, - is it a usual story for Win10 setup files volume? 
>And this my system disk is an SSD disk, which has only 256GB so I'm wondering will its currently free 50+GB volume be good enough for Win10 setup? Will here be all setup files purged after setup will complete? - I have a second 1TB HDD on the same system - is there any way to move Win10 setup there on my large HDD before I'll proceed with it?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ?????? 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Sep  8 10:01:44 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 18:01:44 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB59346A1AD0FECDA50F16240CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB59346A1AD0FECDA50F16240CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1441724504.321832644@f366.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for your comment, from your experience of running Win10 upgrade, which you've done a few AFAIU, - while upgrade is running does it download some more files or it just goes checking for updates when the whole upgrade process finishes??

-- Shamil


>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 2:40 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>I'm not sure. None of my upgrades followed this method, as it requires that your pc hasn't been connected to an Active Directory, which all of our machines have.
>
>Someone else must chime in, but to me it sounds like the update is already unpacked and ready to install - just waiting for your signal. If so, don't run the Disk Clean Up and just watch if you disk usage isn't steady by now.
>
>Nothing happens by waiting - you have until ultimo July next year.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 8. september 2015 16:31
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>Thank you for your comment.
>
>>>?However, as busy as you are now, I would postpone this for a while?
>Yes, I wanted to postpone Win10 upgrade till I finish a couple of urgent projects, but this starting upgrade dialog has appeared here on my system several times already and I have been closing it and my system used disk space was as usual around 100GB but now when I see it grown to almost 200GB (within just a week) I'm getting concerned wasn't that high system disk memory consumption caused by Win10 upgrade waiting to go? If I'll stop it a few more times wouldn't my system hang because of my system disk getting out of space? - AFAIS from the disk clean-up analysis I can free up to 69.3GB now - wouldn't that clean-up remove some of Win10 upgrade temp files, which it will need to download again?
>
>My system free disk space is ~43GB now - I will check tomorrow how much it will change.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 1:47 PM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>As the first task, you could right-click your C drive, select Disk Clean Up, and - when ready - select Clean Up System Files.
>>
>>That will probably allow you to regain several GB of disk space.
>>
>>50 GB free space is enough for an update. The installer will tell you anyway before attempting the update.
>>
>>However, as busy as you are now, I would postpone this for a while - except, of course, if you are missing specific features of Windows 10. It's best to have some spare time to play and tweak after the update.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>
>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>Sendt: 8. september 2015 15:02
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Emne: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>>
>>?Hi All --
>>
>>I'm not yet in Win10 camp, AFAIS I have got Win10 setup(?) "automagically" downloaded and it's ready to go with "Great, we'll get the upgrade started" dialog asking me to accept this setup process but I'm currently behind a mobile Internet connection so I'm keeping this Win10 setup start-up dialog idle. 
>>When I have checked my system disk space I was surprised its used space almost doubled from usual 100+GB to 200GB, - is it a usual story for Win10 setup files volume? 
>>And this my system disk is an SSD disk, which has only 256GB so I'm wondering will its currently free 50+GB volume be good enough for Win10 setup? Will here be all setup files purged after setup will complete? - I have a second 1TB HDD on the same system - is there any way to move Win10 setup there on my large HDD before I'll proceed with it?
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- 
>>???????????? ?????? 
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Sep  8 10:14:38 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 15:14:38 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system
 disk used space...
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB59336727ED3F3FD20A11B53CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

That is up to you. It asks (and suggests) to download the latest updates. 
I've always accepted and don't think it adds much, but you don't have to. And if the machine is off-line, it can't do.

When it is up and running, however, the default is that Windows Update is active, so it will start searching and downloading. This can be turned off.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 8. september 2015 17:02
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...

 Hi Gustav --

Thank you for your comment, from your experience of running Win10 upgrade, which you've done a few AFAIU, - while upgrade is running does it download some more files or it just goes checking for updates when the whole upgrade process finishes??

-- Shamil


>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 2:40 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>I'm not sure. None of my upgrades followed this method, as it requires that your pc hasn't been connected to an Active Directory, which all of our machines have.
>
>Someone else must chime in, but to me it sounds like the update is already unpacked and ready to install - just waiting for your signal. If so, don't run the Disk Clean Up and just watch if you disk usage isn't steady by now.
>
>Nothing happens by waiting - you have until ultimo July next year.
>
>/gustav 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Sep  9 07:22:21 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 15:22:21 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB59336727ED3F3FD20A11B53CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB59336727ED3F3FD20A11B53CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1441801341.835692068@f25.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be ?SSD blues?
Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 3:14 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>That is up to you. It asks (and suggests) to download the latest updates. 
>I've always accepted and don't think it adds much, but you don't have to. And if the machine is off-line, it can't do.
>
>When it is up and running, however, the default is that Windows Update is active, so it will start searching and downloading. This can be turned off.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 8. september 2015 17:02
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>Thank you for your comment, from your experience of running Win10 upgrade, which you've done a few AFAIU, - while upgrade is running does it download some more files or it just goes checking for updates when the whole upgrade process finishes??
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 2:40 PM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>I'm not sure. None of my upgrades followed this method, as it requires that your pc hasn't been connected to an Active Directory, which all of our machines have.
>>
>>Someone else must chime in, but to me it sounds like the update is already unpacked and ready to install - just waiting for your signal. If so, don't run the Disk Clean Up and just watch if you disk usage isn't steady by now.
>>
>>Nothing happens by waiting - you have until ultimo July next year.
>>
>>/gustav 
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Sep  9 07:29:33 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:29:33 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system
 disk used space...
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB5931504D082BC63C604B762CA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

That sounds weird. Something is going on.

Try to launch the Disk Clean Up and see what it tells. It won't delete anything before you mark and accept.

And/or try to see which folder is bloating. Is it the Users' folder or Windows or?

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:22
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...

 Hi Gustav --

I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be ?SSD blues?
Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.

Thank you.

-- Shamil 


From hkotsch at arcor.de  Wed Sep  9 07:31:17 2015
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 14:31:17 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system
	disk used space...
In-Reply-To: <1441801341.835692068@f25.i.mail.ru>
References: <AM2PR06MB59336727ED3F3FD20A11B53CA530@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1441801341.835692068@f25.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <001e01d0eafb$6ca18540$45e48fc0$@de>

Shamil,

This procedure describes how to fix WIN10 installation after it failed but can also be used in your case to free up space (by Go into "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and delete everything in that folder) and allows you to start the downloading and installation at a later time.
----------------------------------
What this error means is, your Windows 10 installation folder is unfinished and/or corrupted. Now, how do you fix that?
1. Go into "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and delete everything in that folder. (If you're unable to complete this step, look at "edit 5" down below)
2. Now, run the command prompt as an administrator. Type in "wuauclt.exe /updatenow".
3. Go to your Control Panel > Windows Update and your Windows 10 should start re-downloading from scratch, hopefully without flaws this time.

EDIT: For those who still have issues, several users reported that setting their time forward (to the First of August for example) and then doing the above steps again helped them resolve the issue.

EDIT 2: If none of the above works, you can try to download Windows 10 from Microsoft's website: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 . Just be cautious that you want to do an upgrade, not a clean install! If you do a clean install, Windows 10 will not activate. You would need a new product key for that. But if you do an upgrade, your product key from Win 7/8/8.1 will carry over to your Win 10. Once you've completed the upgrade and checked that Windows is activated, you can do a clean reinstall if necessary.

EDIT 3: Another possible fix from Microsoft themselves but requires you to tamper with registry keys: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/windows-update-installation-failure-80240020/d695e827-9774-4e10-8972-df8d51a7bb51?auth=1 (thanks /u/ritoman)

EDIT 4: Microsoft support is endorsing this as an official fix! Now, ain't that an accomplishment? https://twitter.com/WindowsSupport/status/626461440568872960 (thanks /u/RxBrad) Thanks for all the gold and kind words, guys!

EDIT 5: If you're unable to delete the contents of the folder due to them being in use, try the following:
1. Open the folder "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download"
2. Run the command prompt as an administrator. Type in "net stop wuauserv". You should see a message indicating that the Windows Update service has been stopped.
3. Now, go back to the folder and now you should be able to delete all its contents.
4. Go back to the command prompt and this time, type in "net start wuauserv". This time, the message will tell you the Windows Update service has been started.
5. Go back to step 2 in the original post.

-------------------------------

Hope that helps

Helmut

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Salakhetdinov Shamil
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. September 2015 14:22
An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...

 Hi Gustav --

I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be  SSD blues?
Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 3:14 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>That is up to you. It asks (and suggests) to download the latest updates. 
>I've always accepted and don't think it adds much, but you don't have to. And if the machine is off-line, it can't do.
>
>When it is up and running, however, the default is that Windows Update is active, so it will start searching and downloading. This can be turned off.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 8. september 2015 17:02
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
> Hi Gustav --
>
>Thank you for your comment, from your experience of running Win10 upgrade, which you've done a few AFAIU, - while upgrade is running does it download some more files or it just goes checking for updates when the whole upgrade process finishes? 
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 2:40 PM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>I'm not sure. None of my upgrades followed this method, as it requires that your pc hasn't been connected to an Active Directory, which all of our machines have.
>>
>>Someone else must chime in, but to me it sounds like the update is already unpacked and ready to install - just waiting for your signal. If so, don't run the Disk Clean Up and just watch if you disk usage isn't steady by now.
>>
>>Nothing happens by waiting - you have until ultimo July next year.
>>
>>/gustav 
>
>_______________________________________________
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>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Sep  9 07:37:12 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 15:37:12 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB5931504D082BC63C604B762CA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB5931504D082BC63C604B762CA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1441802232.443315372@f178.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, it's looking weird.
I have cleaned-up system disk and I have 69GB now,
I have checked Win10 says it has 2+GB of updates - it doesn't look concerning of my recent system disk clean-up.

My system SSD in 3-4 years old - could it be getting out of order? But I must note I always tried to not use it - it was left only for MS Windows system needs.
And I have good anti-virus software NOD32 - worked well all the time. I doubt the issue is concerned from any kind of virus.

Still I suppose there should be something like 60-80GB of the system HDD "eaten by something" during last week.
Is there any good utility which can be used to check the system disk to find out what folders are consuming most of the disk space?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 12:29 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>That sounds weird. Something is going on.
>
>Try to launch the Disk Clean Up and see what it tells. It won't delete anything before you mark and accept.
>
>And/or try to see which folder is bloating. Is it the Users' folder or Windows or?
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:22
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be ?SSD blues?
>Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil 
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From hkotsch at arcor.de  Wed Sep  9 07:43:12 2015
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 14:43:12 +0200
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system
	disk used space...
In-Reply-To: <1441802232.443315372@f178.i.mail.ru>
References: <AM2PR06MB5931504D082BC63C604B762CA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1441802232.443315372@f178.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <001f01d0eafd$17294330$457bc990$@de>

For checking disk space consumption I always use:

http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/?language=EN

Helmut

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Salakhetdinov Shamil
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. September 2015 14:37
An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, it's looking weird.
I have cleaned-up system disk and I have 69GB now, I have checked Win10 says it has 2+GB of updates - it doesn't look concerning of my recent system disk clean-up.

My system SSD in 3-4 years old - could it be getting out of order? But I must note I always tried to not use it - it was left only for MS Windows system needs.
And I have good anti-virus software NOD32 - worked well all the time. I doubt the issue is concerned from any kind of virus.

Still I suppose there should be something like 60-80GB of the system HDD "eaten by something" during last week.
Is there any good utility which can be used to check the system disk to find out what folders are consuming most of the disk space?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 12:29 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>That sounds weird. Something is going on.
>
>Try to launch the Disk Clean Up and see what it tells. It won't delete anything before you mark and accept.
>
>And/or try to see which folder is bloating. Is it the Users' folder or Windows or?
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
>af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:22
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
>dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
> Hi Gustav --
>
>I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be  SSD blues?
>Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Sep  9 07:57:16 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 15:57:16 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
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	<1441801341.835692068@f25.i.mail.ru>
	<001e01d0eafb$6ca18540$45e48fc0$@de>
Message-ID: <1441803436.315123029@f339.i.mail.ru>

 Helmut --

Is it ?(Win10 setup) for sure broken? - I have freed 69GB now, I'd try to keep win10 upgrade in waiting mode. We will see.
I can't start WIn10 upgrade right now as I'm working on an urgent project on this notebook and I'm behing mobile internet connection.

Thank you.

-- Shami


>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 2:31 PM +02:00 from "Helmut Kotsch" <hkotsch at arcor.de>:
>
>Shamil,
>
>This procedure describes how to fix WIN10 installation after it failed but can also be used in your case to free up space (by Go into "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and delete everything in that folder) and allows you to start the downloading and installation at a later time.
>----------------------------------
>What this error means is, your Windows 10 installation folder is unfinished and/or corrupted. Now, how do you fix that?
>1. Go into "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and delete everything in that folder. (If you're unable to complete this step, look at "edit 5" down below)
>2. Now, run the command prompt as an administrator. Type in "wuauclt.exe /updatenow".
>3. Go to your Control Panel > Windows Update and your Windows 10 should start re-downloading from scratch, hopefully without flaws this time.
>
>EDIT: For those who still have issues, several users reported that setting their time forward (to the First of August for example) and then doing the above steps again helped them resolve the issue.
>
>EDIT 2: If none of the above works, you can try to download Windows 10 from Microsoft's website:  http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 . Just be cautious that you want to do an upgrade, not a clean install! If you do a clean install, Windows 10 will not activate. You would need a new product key for that. But if you do an upgrade, your product key from Win 7/8/8.1 will carry over to your Win 10. Once you've completed the upgrade and checked that Windows is activated, you can do a clean reinstall if necessary.
>
>EDIT 3: Another possible fix from Microsoft themselves but requires you to tamper with registry keys:  https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/windows-update-installation-failure-80240020/d695e827-9774-4e10-8972-df8d51a7bb51?auth=1 (thanks /u/ritoman)
>
>EDIT 4: Microsoft support is endorsing this as an official fix! Now, ain't that an accomplishment?  https://twitter.com/WindowsSupport/status/626461440568872960 (thanks /u/RxBrad) Thanks for all the gold and kind words, guys!
>
>EDIT 5: If you're unable to delete the contents of the folder due to them being in use, try the following:
>1. Open the folder "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download"
>2. Run the command prompt as an administrator. Type in "net stop wuauserv". You should see a message indicating that the Windows Update service has been stopped.
>3. Now, go back to the folder and now you should be able to delete all its contents.
>4. Go back to the command prompt and this time, type in "net start wuauserv". This time, the message will tell you the Windows Update service has been started.
>5. Go back to step 2 in the original post.
>
>-------------------------------
>
>Hope that helps
>
>Helmut
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. September 2015 14:22
>An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be  SSD blues?
>Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 3:14 PM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>That is up to you. It asks (and suggests) to download the latest updates. 
>>I've always accepted and don't think it adds much, but you don't have to. And if the machine is off-line, it can't do.
>>
>>When it is up and running, however, the default is that Windows Update is active, so it will start searching and downloading. This can be turned off.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>Sendt: 8. september 2015 17:02
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>>
>> Hi Gustav --
>>
>>Thank you for your comment, from your experience of running Win10 upgrade, which you've done a few AFAIU, - while upgrade is running does it download some more files or it just goes checking for updates when the whole upgrade process finishes? 
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>
>>>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 2:40 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <  gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>>
>>>Hi Shamil
>>>
>>>I'm not sure. None of my upgrades followed this method, as it requires that your pc hasn't been connected to an Active Directory, which all of our machines have.
>>>
>>>Someone else must chime in, but to me it sounds like the update is already unpacked and ready to install - just waiting for your signal. If so, don't run the Disk Clean Up and just watch if you disk usage isn't steady by now.
>>>
>>>Nothing happens by waiting - you have until ultimo July next year.
>>>
>>>/gustav 
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Sep  9 08:00:00 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 16:00:00 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
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References: <AM2PR06MB5931504D082BC63C604B762CA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1441802232.443315372@f178.i.mail.ru>
	<001f01d0eafd$17294330$457bc990$@de>
Message-ID: <1441803600.430378717@f339.i.mail.ru>

 Helmut --

Thank you I will try to use it - so far I have checked manually using MS Windows Explorer - here are the stats:

---------------------
Total - 238GB
----------------------------
Windows - 48.4GB
Program Files - 53.3GB
Program Files(x86) - 16.1GB
Users - 13.8GB
$Windows.~BT - 6.08GB (what is that was it always there?)
ProgramData - 7.37GB
----------------------------
Total used ~ 140GB
----------------------------
Free - 69.3GB (from windows explorer info)
----------------------------
Lost ~ 30GB It lookls like 30GB are lost somewhere in the hidden areas' files, which are unavailable for Windows Explorer.


-- Shamil

>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 2:43 PM +02:00 from "Helmut Kotsch" <hkotsch at arcor.de>:
>
>For checking disk space consumption I always use:
>
>http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/?language=EN
>
>Helmut
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. September 2015 14:37
>An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>Yes, it's looking weird.
>I have cleaned-up system disk and I have 69GB now, I have checked Win10 says it has 2+GB of updates - it doesn't look concerning of my recent system disk clean-up.
>
>My system SSD in 3-4 years old - could it be getting out of order? But I must note I always tried to not use it - it was left only for MS Windows system needs.
>And I have good anti-virus software NOD32 - worked well all the time. I doubt the issue is concerned from any kind of virus.
>
>Still I suppose there should be something like 60-80GB of the system HDD "eaten by something" during last week.
>Is there any good utility which can be used to check the system disk to find out what folders are consuming most of the disk space?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 12:29 PM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>That sounds weird. Something is going on.
>>
>>Try to launch the Disk Clean Up and see what it tells. It won't delete anything before you mark and accept.
>>
>>And/or try to see which folder is bloating. Is it the Users' folder or Windows or?
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
>>af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:22
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>>
>> Hi Gustav --
>>
>>I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be  SSD blues?
>>Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Sep  9 08:15:22 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 16:15:22 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <001f01d0eafd$17294330$457bc990$@de>
References: <AM2PR06MB5931504D082BC63C604B762CA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1441802232.443315372@f178.i.mail.ru>
	<001f01d0eafd$17294330$457bc990$@de>
Message-ID: <1441804522.597038798@f364.i.mail.ru>

 Helmut --

Thank you this utility helped me to find ~20GB - that should be system swap (9GB) and sleep/hibernate - 9GB files. So it looks that after clean-up my system disk is looking rather good here. I will keep monitoring my system disk free space volume.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 2:43 PM +02:00 from "Helmut Kotsch" <hkotsch at arcor.de>:
>
>For checking disk space consumption I always use:
>
>http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/?language=EN
>
>Helmut
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. September 2015 14:37
>An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>Yes, it's looking weird.
>I have cleaned-up system disk and I have 69GB now, I have checked Win10 says it has 2+GB of updates - it doesn't look concerning of my recent system disk clean-up.
>
>My system SSD in 3-4 years old - could it be getting out of order? But I must note I always tried to not use it - it was left only for MS Windows system needs.
>And I have good anti-virus software NOD32 - worked well all the time. I doubt the issue is concerned from any kind of virus.
>
>Still I suppose there should be something like 60-80GB of the system HDD "eaten by something" during last week.
>Is there any good utility which can be used to check the system disk to find out what folders are consuming most of the disk space?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 12:29 PM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>That sounds weird. Something is going on.
>>
>>Try to launch the Disk Clean Up and see what it tells. It won't delete anything before you mark and accept.
>>
>>And/or try to see which folder is bloating. Is it the Users' folder or Windows or?
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
>>af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:22
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>>
>> Hi Gustav --
>>
>>I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be  SSD blues?
>>Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Sep  9 08:30:13 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:30:13 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system
 disk used space...
In-Reply-To: <1441802232.443315372@f178.i.mail.ru>
References: <AM2PR06MB5931504D082BC63C604B762CA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1441802232.443315372@f178.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <AM2PR06MB59357CEE26E41E0C689224ACA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

Seems like you got it sorted out ...

I only use IBM and Intel SSDs. None has broken, so I can't tell what to look for.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:37
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, it's looking weird.
I have cleaned-up system disk and I have 69GB now, I have checked Win10 says it has 2+GB of updates - it doesn't look concerning of my recent system disk clean-up.

My system SSD in 3-4 years old - could it be getting out of order? But I must note I always tried to not use it - it was left only for MS Windows system needs.
And I have good anti-virus software NOD32 - worked well all the time. I doubt the issue is concerned from any kind of virus.

Still I suppose there should be something like 60-80GB of the system HDD "eaten by something" during last week.
Is there any good utility which can be used to check the system disk to find out what folders are consuming most of the disk space?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 12:29 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>That sounds weird. Something is going on.
>
>Try to launch the Disk Clean Up and see what it tells. It won't delete anything before you mark and accept.
>
>And/or try to see which folder is bloating. Is it the Users' folder or Windows or?
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
>af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:22
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
>dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be ?SSD blues?
>Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Sep 11 02:15:34 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:15:34 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Win10_predownloaded_setup_almost_doubled_my_?=
 =?utf-8?q?system_disk_used_space=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <AM2PR06MB59357CEE26E41E0C689224ACA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM2PR06MB5931504D082BC63C604B762CA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1441802232.443315372@f178.i.mail.ru>
	<AM2PR06MB59357CEE26E41E0C689224ACA520@AM2PR06MB593.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1441955734.711147555@f100.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, I have got 113GB GB free space on my system disk back as far as I have found yesterday evening.
"Program Files" folder went down from 55GB to just 13GB....

-- Shamil

-- Shamil
>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 1:30 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>Seems like you got it sorted out ...
>
>I only use IBM and Intel SSDs. None has broken, so I can't tell what to look for.
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:37
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>Yes, it's looking weird.
>I have cleaned-up system disk and I have 69GB now, I have checked Win10 says it has 2+GB of updates - it doesn't look concerning of my recent system disk clean-up.
>
>My system SSD in 3-4 years old - could it be getting out of order? But I must note I always tried to not use it - it was left only for MS Windows system needs.
>And I have good anti-virus software NOD32 - worked well all the time. I doubt the issue is concerned from any kind of virus.
>
>Still I suppose there should be something like 60-80GB of the system HDD "eaten by something" during last week.
>Is there any good utility which can be used to check the system disk to find out what folders are consuming most of the disk space?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Wednesday, September  9, 2015 12:29 PM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>That sounds weird. Something is going on.
>>
>>Try to launch the Disk Clean Up and see what it tells. It won't delete anything before you mark and accept.
>>
>>And/or try to see which folder is bloating. Is it the Users' folder or Windows or?
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
>>af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>Sendt: 9. september 2015 14:22
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win10 predownloaded setup almost doubled my system disk used space...
>>
>>?Hi Gustav --
>>
>>I have just checked - I have 716 MB left n C: - disaster is aproaching. Could that be ?SSD blues?
>>Starting to clean-in up immediately. Forget Win10.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- Shamil 
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Sep 11 13:06:03 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 13:06:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation
Message-ID: <00f401d0ecbc$85f950a0$91ebf1e0$@winhaven.net>

Upgrading a Windows 8 Toshiba laptop for a local non-profit.

All went well until Windows 10 asks for an activation code. There's no
sticker on this laptop! It came with Win8 preloaded. Now what to do?

 

TIA

John B

It the free work that always causes problems.


From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Fri Sep 11 13:16:27 2015
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:16:27 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation
In-Reply-To: <00f401d0ecbc$85f950a0$91ebf1e0$@winhaven.net>
References: <00f401d0ecbc$85f950a0$91ebf1e0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC2FE@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>

http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-make-sure-your-free-copy-windows-10-activated

See paragraph re free upgrade

Martin
________________________________
From: John R Bartow<mailto:jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: ?11/?09/?2015 19:06
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

Upgrading a Windows 8 Toshiba laptop for a local non-profit.

All went well until Windows 10 asks for an activation code. There's no
sticker on this laptop! It came with Win8 preloaded. Now what to do?



TIA

John B

It the free work that always causes problems.

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Sep 11 13:48:02 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 13:48:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC2FE@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <00f401d0ecbc$85f950a0$91ebf1e0$@winhaven.net>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC2FE@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <010801d0ecc2$638b79c0$2aa26d40$@winhaven.net>

Hi Martin,
Thanks. I went through the article and I see nothing that I haven't done
correctly. I'll have to see if the client has an activation code in their
box.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Reid
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:16 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-make-sure-your-free-copy-windows-10
-activated

See paragraph re free upgrade

Martin
________________________________
From: John R Bartow<mailto:jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: ?11/?09/?2015 19:06
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software
issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

Upgrading a Windows 8 Toshiba laptop for a local non-profit.

All went well until Windows 10 asks for an activation code. There's no
sticker on this laptop! It came with Win8 preloaded. Now what to do?



TIA

John B

It the free work that always causes problems.

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Fri Sep 11 13:49:48 2015
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:49:48 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation
In-Reply-To: <010801d0ecc2$638b79c0$2aa26d40$@winhaven.net>
References: <00f401d0ecbc$85f950a0$91ebf1e0$@winhaven.net>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC2FE@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<010801d0ecc2$638b79c0$2aa26d40$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC341@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>

John

I read your email as upgrading win 8. That article says has to be 8 .1 to get free upgrade

Martin
________________________________
From: John R Bartow<mailto:jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: ?11/?09/?2015 19:48
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

Hi Martin,
Thanks. I went through the article and I see nothing that I haven't done
correctly. I'll have to see if the client has an activation code in their
box.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Reid
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:16 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-make-sure-your-free-copy-windows-10
-activated

See paragraph re free upgrade

Martin
________________________________
From: John R Bartow<mailto:jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: ?11/?09/?2015 19:06
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software
issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

Upgrading a Windows 8 Toshiba laptop for a local non-profit.

All went well until Windows 10 asks for an activation code. There's no
sticker on this laptop! It came with Win8 preloaded. Now what to do?



TIA

John B

It the free work that always causes problems.

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 15:53:41 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:53:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Display irregularities
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>

My main squeeze is a laptop, to which is attached a 22" Acer monitor so
it's got two monitors, seen as one very wide monitor. In the past couple of
days something's gone sideways with the Acer display: I'm getting a sort of
double-image of the text etc., just a slight offset as if the normal fonts
were using a shadow-font. A cold boot fixes the problem. The laptop display
is crystal-clear (aside: it's a Dell Inspiron and the display is absolutely
gorgeous), but from time to time the 22" Acer seems to go sideways just a
touch, just enough to be irritating. As I said,  a cold boot seems to fix
the problem. Is this an indication of the age of the monitor? It's about 7
years old, and inexpensive, so that might not surprise me. But it could be
something simple like some adjustment or another, and I hate to toss
hardware that still has life in it. (My motto is, Why toss, when one can
re-purpose?)

Any ideas?

-- 
Arthur

From jwcolby at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 21:56:15 2015
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:56:15 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Display irregularities
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F3944F.6080602@gmail.com>

While I don't know what would cause such a problem I would doubt that it 
is the monitor.  If a boot fixes it, it just seems more likely the 
signal from the laptop.

John W. Colby

On 9/11/2015 4:53 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> My main squeeze is a laptop, to which is attached a 22" Acer monitor so
> it's got two monitors, seen as one very wide monitor. In the past couple of
> days something's gone sideways with the Acer display: I'm getting a sort of
> double-image of the text etc., just a slight offset as if the normal fonts
> were using a shadow-font. A cold boot fixes the problem. The laptop display
> is crystal-clear (aside: it's a Dell Inspiron and the display is absolutely
> gorgeous), but from time to time the 22" Acer seems to go sideways just a
> touch, just enough to be irritating. As I said,  a cold boot seems to fix
> the problem. Is this an indication of the age of the monitor? It's about 7
> years old, and inexpensive, so that might not surprise me. But it could be
> something simple like some adjustment or another, and I hate to toss
> hardware that still has life in it. (My motto is, Why toss, when one can
> re-purpose?)
>
> Any ideas?
>


From jwcolby at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 21:56:51 2015
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:56:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Display irregularities
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F39473.8020806@gmail.com>

Do you have another extarnal monitor you could throw on it to see if a 
different monitor does the same thing?

John W. Colby

On 9/11/2015 4:53 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> My main squeeze is a laptop, to which is attached a 22" Acer monitor so
> it's got two monitors, seen as one very wide monitor. In the past couple of
> days something's gone sideways with the Acer display: I'm getting a sort of
> double-image of the text etc., just a slight offset as if the normal fonts
> were using a shadow-font. A cold boot fixes the problem. The laptop display
> is crystal-clear (aside: it's a Dell Inspiron and the display is absolutely
> gorgeous), but from time to time the 22" Acer seems to go sideways just a
> touch, just enough to be irritating. As I said,  a cold boot seems to fix
> the problem. Is this an indication of the age of the monitor? It's about 7
> years old, and inexpensive, so that might not surprise me. But it could be
> something simple like some adjustment or another, and I hate to toss
> hardware that still has life in it. (My motto is, Why toss, when one can
> re-purpose?)
>
> Any ideas?
>


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Sep 11 22:58:35 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 20:58:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Display irregularities
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7FB7984A035E4D3F88175FB4A5A59AB5@HAL9007>

I would try substituting another display to isolate whether the image
problem is in the display or the comp. 

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:54 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Display irregularities

My main squeeze is a laptop, to which is attached a 22" Acer monitor so it's
got two monitors, seen as one very wide monitor. In the past couple of days
something's gone sideways with the Acer display: I'm getting a sort of
double-image of the text etc., just a slight offset as if the normal fonts
were using a shadow-font. A cold boot fixes the problem. The laptop display
is crystal-clear (aside: it's a Dell Inspiron and the display is absolutely
gorgeous), but from time to time the 22" Acer seems to go sideways just a
touch, just enough to be irritating. As I said,  a cold boot seems to fix
the problem. Is this an indication of the age of the monitor? It's about 7
years old, and inexpensive, so that might not surprise me. But it could be
something simple like some adjustment or another, and I hate to toss
hardware that still has life in it. (My motto is, Why toss, when one can
re-purpose?)

Any ideas?

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Sat Sep 12 00:02:39 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 00:02:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC341@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <00f401d0ecbc$85f950a0$91ebf1e0$@winhaven.net>	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC2FE@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<010801d0ecc2$638b79c0$2aa26d40$@winhaven.net>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC341@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <01a901d0ed18$3fac2a30$bf047e90$@winhaven.net>

Oh, sorry. Yes it is win8.1.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Reid
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:50 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

John

I read your email as upgrading win 8. That article says has to be 8 .1 to
get free upgrade

Martin
________________________________
From: John R Bartow<mailto:jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: ?11/?09/?2015 19:48
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software
issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

Hi Martin,
Thanks. I went through the article and I see nothing that I haven't done
correctly. I'll have to see if the client has an activation code in their
box.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Reid
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:16 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-make-sure-your-free-copy-windows-10
-activated

See paragraph re free upgrade

Martin
________________________________
From: John R Bartow<mailto:jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: ?11/?09/?2015 19:06
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software
issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

Upgrading a Windows 8 Toshiba laptop for a local non-profit.

All went well until Windows 10 asks for an activation code. There's no
sticker on this laptop! It came with Win8 preloaded. Now what to do?



TIA

John B

It the free work that always causes problems.

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 05:19:47 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 06:19:47 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Display irregularities
In-Reply-To: <7FB7984A035E4D3F88175FB4A5A59AB5@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
	<7FB7984A035E4D3F88175FB4A5A59AB5@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gDq8U4P+dXemVKZvqMvu+LB3Mui0UfYF7+aSZHPp52sw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. I do have another monitor so I'll try a swap.?

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 05:48:01 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 06:48:01 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Display irregularities
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gDq8U4P+dXemVKZvqMvu+LB3Mui0UfYF7+aSZHPp52sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
	<7FB7984A035E4D3F88175FB4A5A59AB5@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1gDq8U4P+dXemVKZvqMvu+LB3Mui0UfYF7+aSZHPp52sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gby6rfPkSfGA2o6bBQC=NU99SKvUjxvu1uoUQZofiULA@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, I didn't even have to do that. I just unplugged the monitor then
plugged it back in and the problem disappeared

On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks. I do have another monitor so I'll try a swap.?
>



-- 
Arthur

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 05:50:06 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 06:50:06 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Display irregularities
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gDq8U4P+dXemVKZvqMvu+LB3Mui0UfYF7+aSZHPp52sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j9zwEM0wYtYk8gh56pnKO6fSX9WVNjL=QjhZ72dr06Ww@mail.gmail.com>
	<7FB7984A035E4D3F88175FB4A5A59AB5@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1gDq8U4P+dXemVKZvqMvu+LB3Mui0UfYF7+aSZHPp52sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jG8uMwMNeW1nH2Md7s+TOTWfCpcuyerNxd5fkpHFNQWg@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, I didn't even have to do that. I just unplugged the monitor then
plugged it back in and the problem disappeared

On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks. I do have another monitor so I'll try a swap.?
>



-- 
Arthur

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Sep 12 07:28:10 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 15:28:10 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?What_FTP_Manager_Program_do_you_use=3F?=
Message-ID: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only requirement: it should be very reliable.

Thank you.


-- 
???????????? ??????

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Sep 12 07:41:38 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 15:41:38 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?What_FTP_Manager_Program_do_you_use=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1442061698.23135556@f385.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

I have just got this one:

http://winscp.net/eng/download.php

Looks good for me.

-- Shamil


>Saturday, September 12, 2015 3:28 PM +03:00 from Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>:
>
>Hi All --
>
>I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only requirement: it should be very reliable.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Sep 12 08:13:27 2015
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 23:13:27 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
In-Reply-To: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <55F424F7.3678.83FCCBB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I do a lot of FTPing.  I use the Firefox extension FireFTP.  It's always proved very reliable and 
very easy to use.  I really like the interface.

When I'm working on websites, I  have FireFTP in one tab and the relevant page in another 
tab so that I can switch tabs, hit F5 and see the changes immediately.


-- 
Stuart

 

On 12 Sep 2015 at 15:28, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:

>  Hi All --
> 
> I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only
> requirement: it should be very reliable.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> -- 
>  
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Sep 12 09:54:28 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 07:54:28 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
In-Reply-To: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <513846607A8B42438E2264D5C61B8C05@HAL9007>

I use Filezilla - simple and enough features to do what I needed to do
(maintain a web site).

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:28 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?

 Hi All --

I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only requirement: it
should be very reliable.

Thank you.


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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Sep 12 10:24:36 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 18:24:36 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?What_FTP_Manager_Program_do_you_use=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <55F424F7.3678.83FCCBB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
	<55F424F7.3678.83FCCBB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1442071476.359697153@f432.i.mail.ru>

 Thank you, Stuart,

I will make a note about FireFTP.
As I have written here I have already got installed WinSCP and I'm using it currently. BTW, it looks like it has a COM/.NET library to automate FTPing,

-- Shamil


>Saturday, September 12, 2015 11:13 PM +10:00 from "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>:
>
>I do a lot of FTPing.  I use the Firefox extension FireFTP.  It's always proved very reliable and 
>very easy to use.  I really like the interface.
>
>When I'm working on websites, I  have FireFTP in one tab and the relevant page in another 
>tab so that I can switch tabs, hit F5 and see the changes immediately.
>
>
>-- 
>Stuart
>
>?
>
>On 12 Sep 2015 at 15:28, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>
>>  Hi All --
>> 
>> I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only
>> requirement: it should be very reliable.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Sep 12 10:26:07 2015
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 18:26:07 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?What_FTP_Manager_Program_do_you_use=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <513846607A8B42438E2264D5C61B8C05@HAL9007>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
	<513846607A8B42438E2264D5C61B8C05@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <1442071566.507087986@f432.i.mail.ru>

 Thank you, Rocky,

I have heard about FileZilla is using adware for its free version, doesn't it?

-- Shamil


>Saturday, September 12, 2015 7:54 AM -07:00 from "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>:
>
>I use Filezilla - simple and enough features to do what I needed to do
>(maintain a web site).
>
>R
>?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:28 AM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only requirement: it
>should be very reliable.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>--
>???????????? ??????
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Sep 12 10:36:19 2015
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:36:19 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
In-Reply-To: <1442071566.507087986@f432.i.mail.ru>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru><513846607A8B42438E2264D5C61B8C05@HAL9007>
	<1442071566.507087986@f432.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <7E52E80858AE4400953DAC69B11CABF3@HAL9007>

Not sure.  I'm not doing much file transfer these days.

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 8:26 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?

 Thank you, Rocky,

I have heard about FileZilla is using adware for its free version, doesn't
it?

-- Shamil


>Saturday, September 12, 2015 7:54 AM -07:00 from "Rocky Smolin"
<rockysmolin at bchacc.com>:
>
>I use Filezilla - simple and enough features to do what I needed to do 
>(maintain a web site).
>
>R
>?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
>Of Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:28 AM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
>
>?Hi All --
>
>I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only requirement: 
>it should be very reliable.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>--
>???????????? ??????
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 11:15:18 2015
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 12:15:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
In-Reply-To: <7E52E80858AE4400953DAC69B11CABF3@HAL9007>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
	<513846607A8B42438E2264D5C61B8C05@HAL9007>
	<1442071566.507087986@f432.i.mail.ru>
	<7E52E80858AE4400953DAC69B11CABF3@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWG8uK0eQGq0nMtxpGvX+h8V3w4_DBCepd-CU=ivqy_qug@mail.gmail.com>

The last time I used FileZilla, which was in the spring, there are no
ads. It's Open Source software.

B

On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Not sure.  I'm not doing much file transfer these days.
>
> r
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Salakhetdinov Shamil
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 8:26 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
>
>  Thank you, Rocky,
>
> I have heard about FileZilla is using adware for its free version, doesn't
> it?
>
> -- Shamil
>
>
>>Saturday, September 12, 2015 7:54 AM -07:00 from "Rocky Smolin"
> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>:
>>
>>I use Filezilla - simple and enough features to do what I needed to do
>>(maintain a web site).
>>
>>R
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
>>Of Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:28 AM
>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
>>
>> Hi All --
>>
>>I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only requirement:
>>it should be very reliable.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>
>>--
>>???????????? ??????
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Sep 12 13:50:02 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 18:50:02 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
In-Reply-To: <1442071476.359697153@f432.i.mail.ru>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
	<55F424F7.3678.83FCCBB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<1442071476.359697153@f432.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584652966AE5F460DD38152CA5F0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

For a client, we used automation with 3D FTP and VBA (Access):

http://external.informer.com/3dftp.com/3dftp.htm

I'm not sure how it has evolved but it was fast and worked with zero issues through five years or so of daily use.

/gustav
?

>On 12 Sep 2015 at 15:28, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>
>>  Hi All --
>>
>> I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only
>> requirement: it should be very reliable.
>>
>> Thank you.

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 12 14:27:01 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 14:27:01 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584652966AE5F460DD38152CA5F0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
	<55F424F7.3678.83FCCBB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<1442071476.359697153@f432.i.mail.ru>
	<VI1PR06MB1584652966AE5F460DD38152CA5F0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <55F47C85.1030803@earthlink.net>

On 2015-09-12 1:50 PM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Shamil
>
> For a client, we used automation with 3D FTP and VBA (Access):
>
> http://external.informer.com/3dftp.com/3dftp.htm

I've used Core FTP LE for more than a decade, free, reliable, clean UI, 
no ads.

PB

-----
>
> I'm not sure how it has evolved but it was fast and worked with zero issues through five years or so of daily use.
>
> /gustav
>   
>
>> On 12 Sep 2015 at 15:28, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>>
>>>   Hi All --
>>>
>>> I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only
>>> requirement: it should be very reliable.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Sep 12 15:33:26 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 20:33:26 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584652966AE5F460DD38152CA5F0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
	<55F424F7.3678.83FCCBB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<1442071476.359697153@f432.i.mail.ru>,
	<VI1PR06MB1584652966AE5F460DD38152CA5F0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <AM4PR06MB15698D70E390FA5B575A31B0CA5F0@AM4PR06MB1569.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

I believe version 7 was the last version featuring the API.

/gustav

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Sendt: 12. september 2015 20:50
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?

Hi Shamil

For a client, we used automation with 3D FTP and VBA (Access):

http://external.informer.com/3dftp.com/3dftp.htm

I'm not sure how it has evolved but it was fast and worked with zero issues through five years or so of daily use.

/gustav


>On 12 Sep 2015 at 15:28, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>
>>  Hi All --
>>
>> I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only
>> requirement: it should be very reliable.
>>
>> Thank you.

From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Sep 12 16:19:05 2015
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 17:19:05 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] What FTP Manager Program do you use?
In-Reply-To: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
References: <1442060890.606089841@f93.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <55F496C9.4000804@torchlake.com>

I use Classic FTP by NCH software.  When I purchased my last version, it 
cost $39.95 US.  It has a clean interface, and it works very reliably.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 09/12/15 8:28 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>   Hi All --
>
> I'm looking for the subj - it can be commercial - the only requirement: it should be very reliable.
>
> Thank you.
>
>


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 11:29:08 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 12:29:08 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A Question about Word
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i6cPfW-ex+XS+vQgKmMB9MtbEwGV6mt+_9spBZy+ovSg@mail.gmail.com>

For s particular series of documents, I need to create several levels of
headers. That's easy. The catch is that I need them underlined, and I need
the underline to extend all the way to the right margin. If I modify the
style of H1, say, to be underlined, it just underlines the header's text.
Not what I need. I need the underline to go all the way to the right
margin. I also need to do similar things to the page header and footer (in
the latter case, the line should be above the page footer).

Any hints or suggestions how to achieve this?

-- 
Arthur

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 11:38:29 2015
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 12:38:29 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A Question about Word
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i6cPfW-ex+XS+vQgKmMB9MtbEwGV6mt+_9spBZy+ovSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1i6cPfW-ex+XS+vQgKmMB9MtbEwGV6mt+_9spBZy+ovSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+ee89X3qey4n8KKXoSx4G6GT=iL+oLS7erty8kwQx75UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Well Arthur, an underline goes with the text, not from margin to margin.
Other than inserting spaces before and after the text, I'm not sure you can
force this. However, you might consider using a text box control that
stretches from one margin to the other and then displaying only the
control's bottom border. Or, just drop in a line shape right under the
text.

Susan H.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> For s particular series of documents, I need to create several levels of
> headers. That's easy. The catch is that I need them underlined, and I need
> the underline to extend all the way to the right margin. If I modify the
> style of H1, say, to be underlined, it just underlines the header's text.
> Not what I need. I need the underline to go all the way to the right
> margin. I also need to do similar things to the page header and footer (in
> the latter case, the line should be above the page footer).
>
> Any hints or suggestions how to achieve this?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 13 11:41:37 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (peter.brawley at earthlink.net)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 12:41:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A Question about Word
Message-ID: <2143120774.38073.1442162497202.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

How about using horizontal lines (eg three dashes plus enter)?

PB

---- Original Message ----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
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Date: 09/13/15 12:29 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: [dba-Tech] A Question about Word
For s particular series of documents, I need to create several levels of
headers. That's easy. The catch is that I need them underlined, and I need
the underline to extend all the way to the right margin. If I modify the
style of H1, say, to be underlined, it just underlines the header's text.
Not what I need. I need the underline to go all the way to the right
margin. I also need to do similar things to the page header and footer (in
the latter case, the line should be above the page footer).

Any hints or suggestions how to achieve this?

-- 
Arthur
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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 13 14:25:45 2015
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 20:25:45 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] A Question about Word
In-Reply-To: <2143120774.38073.1442162497202.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <2143120774.38073.1442162497202.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CALGJE97i1vf2rJTC3Nn+XsDPyfHtbx=Z9zABmm2e8hJdv=a9bQ@mail.gmail.com>

Can you not just set the bottom line of the header, I just opened word for
a quick test, chose header then selected the bottom line of the outside
border.

Paul

On 13 September 2015 at 17:41, <peter.brawley at earthlink.net> wrote:

> How about using horizontal lines (eg three dashes plus enter)?
>
> PB
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: 09/13/15 12:29 PM
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Cc:
> Sub: [dba-Tech] A Question about Word
> For s particular series of documents, I need to create several levels of
> headers. That's easy. The catch is that I need them underlined, and I need
> the underline to extend all the way to the right margin. If I modify the
> style of H1, say, to be underlined, it just underlines the header's text.
> Not what I need. I need the underline to go all the way to the right
> margin. I also need to do similar things to the page header and footer (in
> the latter case, the line should be above the page footer).
>
> Any hints or suggestions how to achieve this?
>
> --
> Arthur
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Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 21:34:18 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 22:34:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A Question about Word
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE97i1vf2rJTC3Nn+XsDPyfHtbx=Z9zABmm2e8hJdv=a9bQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2143120774.38073.1442162497202.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<CALGJE97i1vf2rJTC3Nn+XsDPyfHtbx=Z9zABmm2e8hJdv=a9bQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jnRr0LZJK9oxn57SnF-4rD=ih90dN0rFVZuE9ThGhWzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to you all. I shall try these experiments and report back.
?
A.

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Sep 14 10:21:09 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:21:09 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC341@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <00f401d0ecbc$85f950a0$91ebf1e0$@winhaven.net>	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC2FE@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<010801d0ecc2$638b79c0$2aa26d40$@winhaven.net>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC482DC341@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <00a201d0ef00$fba1ae60$f2e50b20$@winhaven.net>

I rolled back to Windows 8.1 just to be sure I had that correct. I got the
Windows Activation key using a script and wrote it down. I then let Windows
update intall Windows 10 again, fully expecting it to ask me for the
activation key. It didn't. I went in the settings to check activation status
and this time it automatically activated it. Sometimes doing the same thing
twice does result in different results!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Reid
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:50 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

John

I read your email as upgrading win 8. That article says has to be 8 .1 to
get free upgrade

Martin
________________________________
From: John R Bartow<mailto:jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: ?11/?09/?2015 19:48
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software
issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

Hi Martin,
Thanks. I went through the article and I see nothing that I haven't done
correctly. I'll have to see if the client has an activation code in their
box.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Reid
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:16 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-make-sure-your-free-copy-windows-10
-activated

See paragraph re free upgrade

Martin
________________________________
From: John R Bartow<mailto:jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: ?11/?09/?2015 19:06
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software
issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 activation

Upgrading a Windows 8 Toshiba laptop for a local non-profit.

All went well until Windows 10 asks for an activation code. There's no
sticker on this laptop! It came with Win8 preloaded. Now what to do?



TIA

John B

It the free work that always causes problems.

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Sep 15 10:40:45 2015
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:40:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A Question about Word
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i6cPfW-ex+XS+vQgKmMB9MtbEwGV6mt+_9spBZy+ovSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1i6cPfW-ex+XS+vQgKmMB9MtbEwGV6mt+_9spBZy+ovSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F83BFD.7020407@torchlake.com>

Arthur,
If you make it a paragraph, then you just put a bottom border on the 
paragraph.
HTH

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 09/13/15 12:29 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> For s particular series of documents, I need to create several levels of
> headers. That's easy. The catch is that I need them underlined, and I need
> the underline to extend all the way to the right margin. If I modify the
> style of H1, say, to be underlined, it just underlines the header's text.
> Not what I need. I need the underline to go all the way to the right
> margin. I also need to do similar things to the page header and footer (in
> the latter case, the line should be above the page footer).
>
> Any hints or suggestions how to achieve this?
>


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu Sep 17 20:58:12 2015
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:58:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Outlook 2003 images not displaying
Message-ID: <000f01d0f1b5$79e48b60$6dada220$@winhaven.net>

Hi all,

I've got a client who's Outlook 2003 images won't display in her received
emails if they have a link associated with them. (Link as in the image is on
the internet and has to download to display or link in the image to open a
browser to a website.)

 

I've gone through all of the settings and checked them to allow anything,
I've cleared the temporary internet files cache (which is one possible
cause) and I've sent a plain embedded image in an email to her and it
displays fine. But things like facebook images will not come through at all.
Just red Xs.

 

Any ideas?

 

TIA 

John B


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Sep 20 13:42:45 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:42:45 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Security and OpenSSL
In-Reply-To: <1142888776.8999049.1441394485852.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1340783236.21813725.1442774565161.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Preamble: No one, especially in any major business would not use security. It is not just for protecting access of the network and guarding company data but also for communication between other companies and governments. This protection basically requires good encryption. 

Standard encryption for most mail or Transport Layer Security (TLS) is of little security as it can be cracked at the same speed of transfer. Mail was sent in little more than plain text until the late nineties. Times have moved on but mail security has not. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security). There are many companies that offer better mail security but unfortunately they tend to be web based so the act of creating mail through them is compromised at both ends...rendering them open to "man in the middle" attacks or/and being compromised at the on line mail company level. If a company, government or person wishes some sort of security, on line solution are not the answer. 

Overview: From a recent BBC article describing the internet, they used the tradition "iceberg" analogy. The top of the iceberg, about 15 to 20 percent is our standard open internet traffic. Most of us only use this level unless we are required to support a business or government agency. About 75 to 80 percent of all internet traffic uses the second layer which is described as the "grey net". Most corporations and government agencies do their day to day operations at this level. This layer, has various levels of encryption applied to the data being managed. The bottom layer has been described as the dark net. This is where all highly secure, good and bad actors, mange their various clandestine affairs and business dealing. Here we can expect the highest levels of security and encryption to be applied.Though only about 5 to 10 percent of the total traffic, this layer has been rapidly expanding. Regardless to what we have been hearing, all but a few of the transactions in this layer are of criminal nature or what we might consider criminal.   
 
Virtual Private Networks (VPN). Using this method, theoretically, any data or mail can be transferred safely without further concern. One of the very best and open source VPNs is OpenSSL. All major internet companies use the product. It is managed through  the Linux Foundation (http://www.linuxfoundation.org). Its client can be installed on all computers, regardless of OS.(https://www.openssl.org/) Any company should be using this form of communication. For Windows clients there are a number of sites which provide instructions on how to install the client: (http://www.herongyang.com/Cryptography/OpenSSL-Installation-on-Windows.html). Here is a good site giving information on how to use the command line to setup and configure your own OpenSSL server: (http://users.dcc.uchile.cl/~pcamacho/tutorial/crypto/openssl/openssl_intro.html). When choosing a secure VPN, as there are always bugs, the products speed at dealing with compromises should be one of the major deciding factors. OpenSSL, being as it is industries' major VPNs, its repair speed must be stellar (https://openssl.org/blog/blog/2015/09/01/openssl-security-a-year-in-review/) and so far, fix duration far exceed the computer industry levels. Aside: Any tech still using Telnet should be sanctioned ;-)

There are many forms of encryption that can be used but many older ciphers can be compromised if sufficient resources are applied. The mail TLS, MD5, PGP, SHA1-256 and even RSA below 1024 is crackable. The best encryption method, so far is AES-256. It is a open source math algorithm and currently there is not enough computer power in the world to break it.  It should be noted that the higher the level of encryption the slower the data transfer rate becomes. If transfer performance becomes an issue or static data must be encrypted the following products are available (http://lifehacker.com/five-best-file-encryption-tools-5677725). Note that AES encryption should always be selected and also note that certain products distribute the keys to central locations outside the users control or jurisdiction or copies of keys are just stored on an easily accessible drive directory on the current computer. Some techs, if they are supporting a number of businesses can use the Yubi key for absolute security (http://www.amazon.com/Yubico-Y-073-YubiKey-Nano/dp/B00NHSHI8E/). If  anyone is really interested in using and setting up the Yubi key method, a link to an instruction podcast can be can be posted.

This of course only covers transfer methods between two secure and setup sites. For hidden movement around the web, products that modify the packet headers and proxy servers that mask the user's location and do not store log information are strongly recommended. It should be noted, that certain governments demand that all transaction information must be recorded so picking the appropriate proxy servers is important. If anyone is interested, I have researched a couple of very good proxies and will pass that information along is asked.

Jim     


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Sep 20 13:51:40 2015
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:51:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has produced its first Linux distro
In-Reply-To: <1340783236.21813725.1442774565161.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <986954503.21817226.1442775100147.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Good news.

Microsoft has produced its first Linux distro. Whether its desktop will be so converted is yet to be seen but as of now there is an Open Source Linux distro designed for connected to it Azure Cloud.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/

So far the product is only available, internally to the MS network and the interface is targeting specific applications but once released it will be reviewed, forked and improved.

Jim  

From jwcolby at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 08:38:52 2015
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:38:52 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has produced its first Linux distro
In-Reply-To: <986954503.21817226.1442775100147.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1340783236.21813725.1442774565161.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<986954503.21817226.1442775100147.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAA_iUE-nhqk-_ugn1PhwqbNs2RT3CGqVzb5qm+68KdEUUA8yKA@mail.gmail.com>

Just what we need a bazillionth and one linus distro.
On Sep 20, 2015 2:52 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Good news.
>
> Microsoft has produced its first Linux distro. Whether its desktop will be
> so converted is yet to be seen but as of now there is an Open Source Linux
> distro designed for connected to it Azure Cloud.
>
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/
>
> So far the product is only available, internally to the MS network and the
> interface is targeting specific applications but once released it will be
> reviewed, forked and improved.
>
> Jim
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 08:49:57 2015
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:49:57 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft has produced its first Linux distro
In-Reply-To: <986954503.21817226.1442775100147.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1340783236.21813725.1442774565161.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<986954503.21817226.1442775100147.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWH=FsC5ZQhjTLnnn4OhQpidxL5atX632Ht01nFYY7B34A@mail.gmail.com>

This isn't MS first Linux Distro. They had one at the turn of the
century. I want to say Redmond Linux, but i'm not 100% sure.

B

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Good news.
>
> Microsoft has produced its first Linux distro. Whether its desktop will be so converted is yet to be seen but as of now there is an Open Source Linux distro designed for connected to it Azure Cloud.
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/
>
> So far the product is only available, internally to the MS network and the interface is targeting specific applications but once released it will be reviewed, forked and improved.
>
> Jim
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-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 18:09:30 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 19:09:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Capture Netflix streams?
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iS70qhk8YgZz2Mb_KsXeKLCVmdOuFWXROBEcmAuVd1Ww@mail.gmail.com>

Actually this is two questions rather than one:

Is there a way to capture streams from NetFlix? Narcos comes to mind.

Is there a way to capture stuff I've downloaded to my PVR and burn discs
from there?

I like to keep stuff I love. And speaking of stuff I love, I highly
recommend Sons of Anarchy. I was talking about it with a friend of mine,
and described it as follows: "On the surface, it's just another biker tale,
but beneath that it's Shakespeare on wheels." And my friend responded, "I
read an interview with Mr. Sutter (creator of the series), who said it was
modeled on Hamlet." That much is pretty obvious, if you know your tortured
Dane; but there are also echoes of Macbeth and a few others, and the final
scene of the final season's final chapter closes with a quote from the
Bard. This series is not to be cast aside lightly, but rather dwelt upon,
with the utmost seriousness,

Hence my request. I'd like to capture it to my PVR and from there burn one
copy, not for illegal distribution but simply so I have it available even
after Rogers pulls it from the list of stuff I can watch.

-- 
Arthur

From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Sep 29 01:11:18 2015
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 06:11:18 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Capture Netflix streams?
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584362A53F4298D9405589BCA4E0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

I use the Streaming Audio Recorder from Apowersoft. 
You could check out their Streaming Video Recorder:

    http://www.apowersoft.com/streaming-video-recorder.html

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 29. september 2015 01:10
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Capture Netflix streams?

Actually this is two questions rather than one:

Is there a way to capture streams from NetFlix? Narcos comes to mind.

Is there a way to capture stuff I've downloaded to my PVR and burn discs from there?

I like to keep stuff I love. And speaking of stuff I love, I highly recommend Sons of Anarchy. I was talking about it with a friend of mine, and described it as follows: "On the surface, it's just another biker tale, but beneath that it's Shakespeare on wheels." And my friend responded, "I read an interview with Mr. Sutter (creator of the series), who said it was modeled on Hamlet." That much is pretty obvious, if you know your tortured Dane; but there are also echoes of Macbeth and a few others, and the final scene of the final season's final chapter closes with a quote from the Bard. This series is not to be cast aside lightly, but rather dwelt upon, with the utmost seriousness,

Hence my request. I'd like to capture it to my PVR and from there burn one copy, not for illegal distribution but simply so I have it available even after Rogers pulls it from the list of stuff I can watch.

--
Arthur 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 03:45:31 2015
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 04:45:31 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Capture Netflix streams?
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Thanks for the tip, Gustav. It looks like just what I need, and the price
is affordable even on my meager pension. I'm downloading the trial edition
right now, and if it helps me capture the new HBO series called Narcos,
then I'll buy it forthwith.

/Arthur

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> I use the Streaming Audio Recorder from Apowersoft.
> You could check out their Streaming Video Recorder:
>
>     http://www.apowersoft.com/streaming-video-recorder.html
>
> /gustav

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 29 23:15:05 2015
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 23:15:05 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Capture Netflix streams?
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Message-ID: <560B61C9.9090904@earthlink.net>

On 2015-09-29 3:45 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Thanks for the tip, Gustav. It looks like just what I need, and the price
> is affordable even on my meager pension. I'm downloading the trial edition
> right now, and if it helps me capture the new HBO series called Narcos,
> then I'll buy it forthwith.

Free alternative: 
http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/RTMPExplorer-freeware-GUI-for-rtmpsrv-Windows.htm

PB

---------------

>
> /Arthur
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arthur
>>
>> I use the Streaming Audio Recorder from Apowersoft.
>> You could check out their Streaming Video Recorder:
>>
>>      http://www.apowersoft.com/streaming-video-recorder.html
>>
>> /gustav
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