From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Wed Feb  3 10:02:48 2016
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 16:02:48 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 to be pushed out on Monday
Message-ID: <dfc303a050cc4ba99f46245b85413617@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2016/02/02/microsoft_ups_pressure_win_10_holdouts/


Microsoft said it would push Windows 10 upgrades onto people's PCs much harder this year - and Redmond has been true to its word.

>From Monday, Windows Update will start making the upgrade to version 10 of the operating system a recommended update, rather than an optional one<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/30/windows_10_updates/>, a spokesperson for the software giant confirmed.

So if you've got Windows Update set up to automatically fetch and install recommended items - and the vast majority of people do because it's the default setting - expect to, well, download and install a few gigabytes of Windows 10.

Also be aware that if you have switched to manual updates you still may end up downloading the new OS anyway: Windows Update automatically selects the optional download as desired, so there's no need to click on the box to get it.

Users won't be forced to upgrade per se; Microsoft says that there will still be a prompt screen that will require users to click through and confirm the switchover to Win10 after the files have been silently downloaded and unpacked in the background.

However, we all know the treatment dialogue boxes get from users - click OK and carry on.

If you inadvertently upgrade that's not the end of it either - Microsoft is guaranteeing you'll be able to revert to your old installation within 30 days of trying Windows 10 if you decide you don't like the creepy<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/26/microsoft_renamed_data_slurper_reinserted_windows_10/> operating system.

Today's move does mean you can expect to get a lot more technical support calls from friends and family who don't know what's going on - the update change only affects consumers, not business users, but the latter group will still be shown nagging screens<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/14/get_windows_10_business_pcs/>.



Jon


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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Feb  4 11:59:36 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:59:36 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel tree control
Message-ID: <003601d15f75$cf822400$6e866c00$@gmail.com>

Can anyone recommend an easy-to-implement tree control for Excel? A reader's
looking for one and it's not something I have any recent experience with.
Thanks!

 

Susan H. 

 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Feb  5 14:07:28 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 23:07:28 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?MICROSOFT_Lumia_950_Dual?=
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15842285024C135E9C29ECCDCAC70@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15842285024C135E9C29ECCDCAC70@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1454702848.198018466@f244.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.

Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up??
It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Monday, January 25, 2016 5:20 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>I should note that they service both me and Rita - at the office as well as at home (which serves as a second office as well).
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 25. januar 2016 18:12
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
>
>?Hi Gustav --
>
>You've a large hardware park! :)
>
>And I still have Nokia Lumia 800 - and it works very well, but it will not get Win 10 - so 950 promise to be a good selection for a new smartphone here.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>>Monday, January 25, 2016 4:39 PM UTC from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil
>>
>>Yes, it's a Surface 2 Pro - and two Lenovo 1051-2 tablets - plus four desktops and a laptop.
>>
>>But it's not that I wait for something better than 950 - it will come for sure - just that our two Lumias 925 and 820 work very well, so there is really no reason to spend money just to have the newest model, indeed not if they can be upgraded to Windows 10. I'm not sure about the 820, time will tell.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>Sendt: 25. januar 2016 17:25
>>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
>>
>>?Hi Gustav --
>>
>>Thank you for your comment.
>>Yes, you have MS Surface 2 or 3 tablet, don't you? - then you can wait for something better than 950 to come from MS.
>>
>>-- Shamil 
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Feb  5 16:13:27 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 22:13:27 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584E9614FDD2B0F87265AAACAD20@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

To my knowledge, Cortana is for a limited selection of languages only which ? at least ? doesn?t include Danish, so I can?t use ?her? as I don?t want to set up the phone for UK or US.
That said, my life isn?t really that complicated that I need a butler to stay clear of trouble, so I don?t miss the feature, except that it could be fun.

/gustav

Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 21:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Gustav --

I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.

Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up?
It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  5 16:52:00 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:52:00 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584E9614FDD2B0F87265AAACAD20@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1985195522.8632129.1454712720315.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav and Shamil:

It has come to my attention that a voice recognition product called MyCroft has just released an Open Source major component of AI language application called Adapt or Adapt Intent Parser (AIP). In summary the product is built on Python and therefore runs on any platform and if the appropriate natural language English is spoken to it, it will generate JSON data that can be used in generating any subsequent Skill Set.

https://adapt.mycroft.ai/

The hope is that, as the code is OS, the syntax of other languages can be designed. Within a year the entire package will be available and it will be small enough to comfortably fit on a Raspberry PI. The package not being immediately driven via a remote server gives it the potential of running on personal desktop/tablet/smartphone/robotics applications and on websites.

Here is a link to the Kickstarter program that initiated the product:
http://kck.st/1QLwFTQ

Other language AIPs are being worked on but how far these ventures have progressed is unknown.
 
Jim    

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:13:27 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Shamil

To my knowledge, Cortana is for a limited selection of languages only which ? at least ? doesn?t include Danish, so I can?t use ?her? as I don?t want to set up the phone for UK or US.
That said, my life isn?t really that complicated that I need a butler to stay clear of trouble, so I don?t miss the feature, except that it could be fun.

/gustav

Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 21:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Gustav --

I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.

Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up?
It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?

Thank you.

-- Shamil
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  5 16:58:36 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (peter.brawley at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 17:58:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
Message-ID: <552384092.67111.1454713116944.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>From a review of the Lumia 950 ...

If you want to get the photos from the phone to your computer, the easiest way to do it is by taking out the micro SD card from the phone and by using a card reader. This is also the easiest way to move music from your computer to the SD card. Otherwise, it?ll be really annoying to move files back-and-forth from the phone, especially if you are using a Mac."

-- http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/553883/scitech/technology/a-closer-look-at-the-microsoft-lumia-950-by-an-apple-fan

Wow. Just wow.

PB


---- Original Message ----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 02/05/16 5:13 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
Hi Shamil

To my knowledge, Cortana is for a limited selection of languages only which ? at least ? doesn?t include Danish, so I can?t use ?her? as I don?t want to set up the phone for UK or US.
That said, my life isn?t really that complicated that I need a butler to stay clear of trouble, so I don?t miss the feature, except that it could be fun.

/gustav

Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 21:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Gustav --

I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.

Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up?
It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?

Thank you.

-- Shamil
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Feb  5 06:23:20 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 06:23:20 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
In-Reply-To: <552384092.67111.1454713116944.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <552384092.67111.1454713116944.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005e01d16010$00382dc0$00a88940$@winhaven.net>

I just use OneDrive on my WinPhone,  my Androids, my wife's iPhone and iPad and on our PCs. Takes the pain out of everything.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 4:59 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

>From a review of the Lumia 950 ...

If you want to get the photos from the phone to your computer, the easiest way to do it is by taking out the micro SD card from the phone and by using a card reader. This is also the easiest way to move music from your computer to the SD card. Otherwise, it?ll be really annoying to move files back-and-forth from the phone, especially if you are using a Mac."

-- http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/553883/scitech/technology/a-closer-look-at-the-microsoft-lumia-950-by-an-apple-fan

Wow. Just wow.

PB


---- Original Message ----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 02/05/16 5:13 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual Hi Shamil

To my knowledge, Cortana is for a limited selection of languages only which ? at least ? doesn?t include Danish, so I can?t use ?her? as I don?t want to set up the phone for UK or US.
That said, my life isn?t really that complicated that I need a butler to stay clear of trouble, so I don?t miss the feature, except that it could be fun.

/gustav

Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 21:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Gustav --

I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.

Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up?
It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?

Thank you.

-- Shamil
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From df.waters at outlook.com  Fri Feb  5 18:35:14 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 18:35:14 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
In-Reply-To: <552384092.67111.1454713116944.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <552384092.67111.1454713116944.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS16B2A8311EEEABD52B14B2F6D30@phx.gbl>

On my Lumia 635 I plug in a USB cable that has a normal USB plug on one end for the PC, and a micro (or mini?) plug on the other.  The phone asks me if I want to use a USB data connection for the phone and I select Yes.  This also serves to slow-charge the phone - which is handy.

Once you are plugged in, the PC will recognize the phone and you can then browse through a few folders to get at the photos.

Much better than disassembling the phone!

I'm going to guess that the 950 will do the same thing.  Hope so because I'm going to get a 950 XL in a few months.  Currently $599 at B&H with no shipping charge and no tax for me.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 4:59 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

>From a review of the Lumia 950 ...

If you want to get the photos from the phone to your computer, the easiest way to do it is by taking out the micro SD card from the phone and by using a card reader. This is also the easiest way to move music from your computer to the SD card. Otherwise, it?ll be really annoying to move files back-and-forth from the phone, especially if you are using a Mac."

-- http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/553883/scitech/technology/a-closer-look-at-the-microsoft-lumia-950-by-an-apple-fan

Wow. Just wow.

PB


---- Original Message ----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 02/05/16 5:13 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: 
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual Hi Shamil

To my knowledge, Cortana is for a limited selection of languages only which ? at least ? doesn?t include Danish, so I can?t use ?her? as I don?t want to set up the phone for UK or US.
That said, my life isn?t really that complicated that I need a butler to stay clear of trouble, so I don?t miss the feature, except that it could be fun.

/gustav

Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 21:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Gustav --

I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.

Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up?
It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?

Thank you.

-- Shamil
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb  5 22:57:22 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 21:57:22 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 to be pushed out on Monday
In-Reply-To: <dfc303a050cc4ba99f46245b85413617@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <795991711.8839308.1454734642502.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

One of our Windows 7 computers just locked up. I was called down to have a look and it appears that an acceptance to install Windows 10 had been inadvertently pressed. The process apparently ran for an hour and then everything froze. No idea why but everything recovered after a reboot.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Tydda" <jon.tydda at lonza.com>
To: "Dba-Tech (dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com)" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:02:48 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 to be pushed out on Monday

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2016/02/02/microsoft_ups_pressure_win_10_holdouts/


Microsoft said it would push Windows 10 upgrades onto people's PCs much harder this year - and Redmond has been true to its word.

>From Monday, Windows Update will start making the upgrade to version 10 of the operating system a recommended update, rather than an optional one<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/30/windows_10_updates/>, a spokesperson for the software giant confirmed.

So if you've got Windows Update set up to automatically fetch and install recommended items - and the vast majority of people do because it's the default setting - expect to, well, download and install a few gigabytes of Windows 10.

Also be aware that if you have switched to manual updates you still may end up downloading the new OS anyway: Windows Update automatically selects the optional download as desired, so there's no need to click on the box to get it.

Users won't be forced to upgrade per se; Microsoft says that there will still be a prompt screen that will require users to click through and confirm the switchover to Win10 after the files have been silently downloaded and unpacked in the background.

However, we all know the treatment dialogue boxes get from users - click OK and carry on.

If you inadvertently upgrade that's not the end of it either - Microsoft is guaranteeing you'll be able to revert to your old installation within 30 days of trying Windows 10 if you decide you don't like the creepy<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/26/microsoft_renamed_data_slurper_reinserted_windows_10/> operating system.

Today's move does mean you can expect to get a lot more technical support calls from friends and family who don't know what's going on - the update change only affects consumers, not business users, but the latter group will still be shown nagging screens<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/14/get_windows_10_business_pcs/>.



Jon


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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb  6 02:26:34 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 11:26:34 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?MICROSOFT_Lumia_950_Dual?=
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-DS16B2A8311EEEABD52B14B2F6D30@phx.gbl>
References: <552384092.67111.1454713116944.JavaMail.portal@wapmail-coots.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<BLU176-DS16B2A8311EEEABD52B14B2F6D30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1454747194.822806449@f332.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

Thank you everybody who replied to this topic.

It's a pity Cortana isn't supported when Russia or Denmark or many other countries of this world are set as a WinPhone (e.g. Lumia 950) home region.

I wanted to write a small WinPhone app for my own use controlled by a few voice commands and I thought Cortana would be helpful to start with to investigate the available options.
I did read Jim's note on open source promising solution - but I need solution in a near future. 

I'm currently looking for .NET technologies to be used in WinPhone apps for voice recognition -?Windows 10 guides are here -? https://msdn.microsoft.com/library/windows/apps/xaml/mt244352.aspx , and voice recognition sample for Win10 ?universal apps is here? https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/mt185615.aspx.. ?.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Friday, February  5, 2016 6:35 PM -06:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
>
>On my Lumia 635 I plug in a USB cable that has a normal USB plug on one end for the PC, and a micro (or mini?) plug on the other.  The phone asks me if I want to use a USB data connection for the phone and I select Yes.  This also serves to slow-charge the phone - which is handy.
>
>Once you are plugged in, the PC will recognize the phone and you can then browse through a few folders to get at the photos.
>
>Much better than disassembling the phone!
>
>I'm going to guess that the 950 will do the same thing.  Hope so because I'm going to get a 950 XL in a few months.  Currently $599 at B&H with no shipping charge and no tax for me.
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of  peter.brawley at earthlink.net
>Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 4:59 PM
>To:  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
>
>From a review of the Lumia 950 ...
>
>If you want to get the photos from the phone to your computer, the easiest way to do it is by taking out the micro SD card from the phone and by using a card reader. This is also the easiest way to move music from your computer to the SD card. Otherwise, it?ll be really annoying to move files back-and-forth from the phone, especially if you are using a Mac."
>
>--  http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/553883/scitech/technology/a-closer-look-at-the-microsoft-lumia-950-by-an-apple-fan
>
>Wow. Just wow.
>
>PB
>
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: "Gustav Brock" < gustav at cactus.dk >
>Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Date: 02/05/16 5:13 PM
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Cc: 
>Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual Hi Shamil
>
>To my knowledge, Cortana is for a limited selection of languages only which ? at least ? doesn?t include Danish, so I can?t use ?her? as I don?t want to set up the phone for UK or US.
>That said, my life isn?t really that complicated that I need a butler to stay clear of trouble, so I don?t miss the feature, except that it could be fun.
>
>/gustav
>
>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: 5. februar 2016 21:07
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>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
>
>Hi Gustav --
>
>I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.
>
>Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up?
>It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?
>
>Thank you.
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Feb  6 04:32:29 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 10:32:29 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15846B3DD2C686D0D05216C0CAD30@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Peter

That must be a quick review missing the obvious. As Dan mentions, you can connect it as a simple USB drive.

But the really smart way is to use OneDrive as John does. Once signed up (a one-time task), you don?t have to do anything else than taking the pictures. Minutes after, I can access the pictures at _any_ workstation I am logged on to ? just like that.

As far as I know, OneDrive will connect to Macs as well:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onedrive-cloud-storage-for/id477537958?mt=8

/gustav

Fra: peter.brawley at earthlink.net<mailto:peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 23:59
Til: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

From a review of the Lumia 950 ...

If you want to get the photos from the phone to your computer, the easiest way to do it is by taking out the micro SD card from the phone and by using a card reader. This is also the easiest way to move music from your computer to the SD card. Otherwise, it?ll be really annoying to move files back-and-forth from the phone, especially if you are using a Mac."

-- http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/553883/scitech/technology/a-closer-look-at-the-microsoft-lumia-950-by-an-apple-fan

Wow. Just wow.

PB


---- Original Message ----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 02/05/16 5:13 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc:
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
Hi Shamil

To my knowledge, Cortana is for a limited selection of languages only which ? at least ? doesn?t include Danish, so I can?t use ?her? as I don?t want to set up the phone for UK or US.
That said, my life isn?t really that complicated that I need a butler to stay clear of trouble, so I don?t miss the feature, except that it could be fun.

/gustav

Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 21:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Gustav --

I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.

Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up?
It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?

Thank you.

-- Shamil


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Feb  5 23:18:51 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 23:18:51 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Ransomware Criminals Infect Thousands With Weird
	WordPress Hack
Message-ID: <00e001d1609d$de0e0dd0$9a2a2970$@winhaven.net>

An unexpectedly large number of WordPress websites have been mysteriously
compromised and are delivering the TeslaCrypt ransomware to unwitting
end-users.  Antivirus is not catching this yet.

In the last few days, malware researchers from Malwarebytes and other
security firms have reported that a massive number of legit WordPress sites
somehow have been compromised and are silently redirecting visitors to sites
with the Nuclear Exploit Kit.  It's not yet clear how the WordPress sites
are getting infected, but it is highly likely that there is a new
vulnerability that is being exploited in either WP or a very popular WP
plugin.

"WordPress sites are injected with huge blurbs of rogue code that perform a
silent redirection to domains appearing to be hosting ads," Malwarebytes
Senior Security Researcher J?r?me Segura wrote in a blog post published
Wednesday. "This is a distraction (and fraud) as the ad is stuffed with more
code that sends visitors to the Nuclear Exploit Kit."

The compromised WordPress sites were hacked and included encrypted code at
the end of all legitimate JavaScript files. The malware tries to infect all
accessible .js files. The attack tries to conceal itself and the code
redirects end-users through a series of sites before dropping the ransomware
payload. Once a WP Server is infected, the malware also installs a variety
of backdoors on the machine. 

What To Do About It If You Run WordPress:

    Patch Server Operating Systems
    Patch WordPress
    Get rid of as many WP plugins as possible and patch the current ones
    Update all your WP instances at the same time to prevent
cross-infections
    Lock down all WP instances with a very strong password and the WP
2-factor authentication



From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Feb  5 23:29:24 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 23:29:24 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another ransomware encryption decoded
Message-ID: <00e301d1609f$56f8fd80$04eaf880$@winhaven.net>

For those that have ransomed hard drives sitting around waiting to decrypt:

http://tinyurl.com/z9l82j8

 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  6 11:46:01 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 10:46:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Use an OS SaaS compliant application
In-Reply-To: <00e001d1609d$de0e0dd0$9a2a2970$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1282485901.9093541.1454780761342.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

"What is SaaS?

SaaS, or Software as a Service, describes any cloud service where consumers are able to access software applications over the internet. The applications are hosted in ?the cloud? and can be used for a wide range of tasks for both individuals and organisations..."

There is now a open source program which can be hosted on your own network or migrated/integrated to the Cloud (A Digital Ocean droplet for example). The application can be installed locally, compiled natively or run through a Container (single key deployment). It runs on all major platforms and the application is called Mattermost.

Check it out...a very impressive and comprehensive application: http://www.mattermost.org/

I have installed the app on one of my MS and Ubuntu servers and it seems to b working well.
 
Jim   


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb  6 12:29:59 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 11:29:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Does anyone have a example
In-Reply-To: <00e001d1609d$de0e0dd0$9a2a2970$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1349203111.9118885.1454783399399.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

I have been looking for an example of (FE and BE) code that will allow a website to deploy two factor password authentication. If the code was reactive (could adapt to changing screen real-estate), uses gestures and maybe uses something like Nodejs to connect to the BE DB, that would be a definite plus.

If you have any links, recommended methods and/or code samples it would be a big help.

MTIA
Jim

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 13:49:30 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 14:49:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Ransomware Criminals Infect Thousands With
	Weird	WordPress Hack
In-Reply-To: <00e001d1609d$de0e0dd0$9a2a2970$@winhaven.net>
References: <00e001d1609d$de0e0dd0$9a2a2970$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <003b01d16117$7ea30510$7be90f30$@gmail.com>

What about those of us who visit the site? Better yet... is there anyway to
tell from a link that it?s a Wordpress site before clicking the link? 

Susan H 


An unexpectedly large number of WordPress websites have been mysteriously
compromised and are delivering the TeslaCrypt ransomware to unwitting
end-users.  Antivirus is not catching this yet.

In the last few days, malware researchers from Malwarebytes and other
security firms have reported that a massive number of legit WordPress sites
somehow have been compromised and are silently redirecting visitors to sites
with the Nuclear Exploit Kit.  It's not yet clear how the WordPress sites
are getting infected, but it is highly likely that there is a new
vulnerability that is being exploited in either WP or a very popular WP
plugin.

"WordPress sites are injected with huge blurbs of rogue code that perform a
silent redirection to domains appearing to be hosting ads," Malwarebytes
Senior Security Researcher J?r?me Segura wrote in a blog post published
Wednesday. "This is a distraction (and fraud) as the ad is stuffed with more
code that sends visitors to the Nuclear Exploit Kit."

The compromised WordPress sites were hacked and included encrypted code at
the end of all legitimate JavaScript files. The malware tries to infect all
accessible .js files. The attack tries to conceal itself and the code
redirects end-users through a series of sites before dropping the ransomware
payload. Once a WP Server is infected, the malware also installs a variety
of backdoors on the machine. 

What To Do About It If You Run WordPress:

    Patch Server Operating Systems
    Patch WordPress
    Get rid of as many WP plugins as possible and patch the current ones
    Update all your WP instances at the same time to prevent
cross-infections
    Lock down all WP instances with a very strong password and the WP
2-factor authentication


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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 13:52:25 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 14:52:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another ransomware encryption decoded
In-Reply-To: <00e301d1609f$56f8fd80$04eaf880$@winhaven.net>
References: <00e301d1609f$56f8fd80$04eaf880$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <003c01d16117$e73f9160$b5beb420$@gmail.com>

Here's to hoping... 

Susan H 


For those that have ransomed hard drives sitting around waiting to decrypt:

http://tinyurl.com/z9l82j8

 



From Accesspro at cox.net  Sun Feb  7 17:52:39 2016
From: Accesspro at cox.net (B Heygood)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 15:52:39 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Best PDF Editor
Message-ID: <010e01d16202$a10e2350$e32a69f0$@cox.net>

I used to use PDF Creator and found it to work well with Access.
Now with the later versions of Access we no longer need a PDF printer .
I also used the full bore Acrobat for automation via Access.

But, now I have need of editing some pdfs.
Is there a program you would recommend other than the full Acrobat ?
Downloading a virus is my concern.

Tia
Bob




From jon at tydda.plus.com  Sun Feb  7 18:11:01 2016
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 00:11:01 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Best PDF Editor
In-Reply-To: <010e01d16202$a10e2350$e32a69f0$@cox.net>
References: <010e01d16202$a10e2350$e32a69f0$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <729371C1-762D-488D-85F8-5A5BDADF6918@tydda.plus.com>

We use NitroPro at work. It's as good as Acrobat and about a third of the price. 


Jon

Sent from my iPhone 7 (Beta)

> On 7 Feb 2016, at 23:52, B Heygood <Accesspro at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> I used to use PDF Creator and found it to work well with Access.
> Now with the later versions of Access we no longer need a PDF printer .
> I also used the full bore Acrobat for automation via Access.
> 
> But, now I have need of editing some pdfs.
> Is there a program you would recommend other than the full Acrobat ?
> Downloading a virus is my concern.
> 
> Tia
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Mon Feb  8 08:15:30 2016
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 14:15:30 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Best PDF Editor
In-Reply-To: <010e01d16202$a10e2350$e32a69f0$@cox.net>
References: <010e01d16202$a10e2350$e32a69f0$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA8629CEAF5@PWGSMSLIVMBS09.mail.aig.net>

Depends what sort of editing you want to do, but Foxit lets you annotate and draw, and it's free.

https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of B Heygood
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 6:53 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Best PDF Editor

I used to use PDF Creator and found it to work well with Access.
Now with the later versions of Access we no longer need a PDF printer .
I also used the full bore Acrobat for automation via Access.

But, now I have need of editing some pdfs.
Is there a program you would recommend other than the full Acrobat ?
Downloading a virus is my concern.

Tia
Bob



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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Mon Feb  8 09:13:54 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:13:54 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Best PDF Editor
In-Reply-To: <729371C1-762D-488D-85F8-5A5BDADF6918@tydda.plus.com>
References: <010e01d16202$a10e2350$e32a69f0$@cox.net>
	<729371C1-762D-488D-85F8-5A5BDADF6918@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <56B8B0B2.10604@torchlake.com>

I also use NitroPro and like it very much.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 02/07/16 7:11 PM, Jon Tydda wrote:
> We use NitroPro at work. It's as good as Acrobat and about a third of the price.
>
>
> Jon
>
> Sent from my iPhone 7 (Beta)
>
>> On 7 Feb 2016, at 23:52, B Heygood <Accesspro at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> I used to use PDF Creator and found it to work well with Access.
>> Now with the later versions of Access we no longer need a PDF printer .
>> I also used the full bore Acrobat for automation via Access.
>>
>> But, now I have need of editing some pdfs.
>> Is there a program you would recommend other than the full Acrobat ?
>> Downloading a virus is my concern.
>>
>> Tia
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
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From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Tue Feb  9 03:05:51 2016
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:05:51 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts
Message-ID: <dd35cb6242514153b8dbe8498616a39f@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Hi all

Found a list of really useful keyboard shortcuts for Windows 10, thought I'd share with you all:

http://reviews.gizmodo.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-windows-10-keyboard-shortcuts-1720656591


Jon


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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Feb  8 22:34:55 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 22:34:55 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Adobe Animate
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAAKeWipT0LVBBsoQPG09zBF0BAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>

It feels good when predictions come true. Two items in their PR announcement
stand put: " formerly Adobe Flash Professional" and " And best of all, you
can publish your animations to HTML5 Canvas"
?
"The premier animation tool for the web and beyond is updated and available
as part of Adobe Creative Cloud. Adobe Animate?CC, formerly Adobe Flash
Professional?CC, introduces major improvements and innovations to help you
create interactive animations faster than ever?before:
?
? New drawing and authoring tools like vector art brushes and a 360?
rotatable canvas give you more ways to express your?creativity.
? Adobe CreativeSync integration brings you the power of Creative Cloud
Libraries, Adobe Stock and Typekit directly within?Animate.
? Flexible output formats let you export videos with 4K+ resolution for
UltraHD displays, or optimize and repurpose existing?content.
?
And best of all, you can publish your animations to HTML5 Canvas, WebGL,
Flash, Adobe?AIR and even custom platforms to reach the widest audience
possible."

The end of an era is near. An era I never entered (even though I've had
Flash Pro as part of one Adobe Suite or another for years) because I thought
it would be over a long time ago but hey, 1 out of two predictions isn't bad
;-)



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Feb  9 11:15:48 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:15:48 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <dd35cb6242514153b8dbe8498616a39f@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <dd35cb6242514153b8dbe8498616a39f@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <56BA1EC4.2060905@torchlake.com>

Thank you, Jon.  Very handy.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 02/09/16 4:05 AM, Jon Tydda wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Found a list of really useful keyboard shortcuts for Windows 10, thought I'd share with you all:
>
> http://reviews.gizmodo.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-windows-10-keyboard-shortcuts-1720656591
>
>
> Jon
>
>
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Feb  9 11:20:02 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:20:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 to be pushed out on Monday
In-Reply-To: <dfc303a050cc4ba99f46245b85413617@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <dfc303a050cc4ba99f46245b85413617@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <56BA1FC2.4090900@torchlake.com>

Thank you, Jon.  I just made sure my update setting does not 
automatically download.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 02/03/16 11:02 AM, Jon Tydda wrote:
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2016/02/02/microsoft_ups_pressure_win_10_holdouts/
>
>
> Microsoft said it would push Windows 10 upgrades onto people's PCs much harder this year - and Redmond has been true to its word.
>
> >From Monday, Windows Update will start making the upgrade to version 10 of the operating system a recommended update, rather than an optional one<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/30/windows_10_updates/>, a spokesperson for the software giant confirmed.
>
> So if you've got Windows Update set up to automatically fetch and install recommended items - and the vast majority of people do because it's the default setting - expect to, well, download and install a few gigabytes of Windows 10.
>
> Also be aware that if you have switched to manual updates you still may end up downloading the new OS anyway: Windows Update automatically selects the optional download as desired, so there's no need to click on the box to get it.
>
> Users won't be forced to upgrade per se; Microsoft says that there will still be a prompt screen that will require users to click through and confirm the switchover to Win10 after the files have been silently downloaded and unpacked in the background.
>
> However, we all know the treatment dialogue boxes get from users - click OK and carry on.
>
> If you inadvertently upgrade that's not the end of it either - Microsoft is guaranteeing you'll be able to revert to your old installation within 30 days of trying Windows 10 if you decide you don't like the creepy<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/26/microsoft_renamed_data_slurper_reinserted_windows_10/> operating system.
>
> Today's move does mean you can expect to get a lot more technical support calls from friends and family who don't know what's going on - the update change only affects consumers, not business users, but the latter group will still be shown nagging screens<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/14/get_windows_10_business_pcs/>.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
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From Accesspro at cox.net  Wed Feb 10 13:48:46 2016
From: Accesspro at cox.net (B Heygood)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:48:46 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Best PDF Editor
In-Reply-To: <FrE61s00P0xgD8Z01rE7bd>
References: <010e01d16202$a10e2350$e32a69f0$@cox.net>	<729371C1-762D-488D-85F8-5A5BDADF6918@tydda.plus.com>
	<FrE61s00P0xgD8Z01rE7bd>
Message-ID: <012f01d1643c$114b06c0$33e11440$@cox.net>

Checking out Nitro Pro.
So far working great to fill in forms.

Thanks to all respondents.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Tina Norris Fields
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 7:14 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Best PDF Editor

I also use NitroPro and like it very much.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 02/07/16 7:11 PM, Jon Tydda wrote:
> We use NitroPro at work. It's as good as Acrobat and about a third of the
price.
>
>
> Jon
>
> Sent from my iPhone 7 (Beta)
>
>> On 7 Feb 2016, at 23:52, B Heygood <Accesspro at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> I used to use PDF Creator and found it to work well with Access.
>> Now with the later versions of Access we no longer need a PDF printer .
>> I also used the full bore Acrobat for automation via Access.
>>
>> But, now I have need of editing some pdfs.
>> Is there a program you would recommend other than the full Acrobat ?
>> Downloading a virus is my concern.
>>
>> Tia
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Feb 10 15:26:29 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:26:29 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <56BA1EC4.2060905@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <659840378.12325385.1455139589988.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Jon:

Thanks for the heads up. :-)

Jim
 
On 02/09/16 4:05 AM, Jon Tydda wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Found a list of really useful keyboard shortcuts for Windows 10, thought I'd share with you all:
>
> http://reviews.gizmodo.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-windows-10-keyboard-shortcuts-1720656591
>
>
> Jon

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Feb 10 22:57:49 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 22:57:49 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15846B3DD2C686D0D05216C0CAD30@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15846B3DD2C686D0D05216C0CAD30@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <019201d16488$c1b094c0$4511be40$@winhaven.net>

Hi all,
I haven't found a device yet that OneDrive does not support!
Regards,
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 4:32 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Peter

That must be a quick review missing the obvious. As Dan mentions, you can connect it as a simple USB drive.

But the really smart way is to use OneDrive as John does. Once signed up (a one-time task), you don?t have to do anything else than taking the pictures. Minutes after, I can access the pictures at _any_ workstation I am logged on to ? just like that.

As far as I know, OneDrive will connect to Macs as well:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onedrive-cloud-storage-for/id477537958?mt=8

/gustav

Fra: peter.brawley at earthlink.net<mailto:peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 23:59
Til: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

>From a review of the Lumia 950 ...

If you want to get the photos from the phone to your computer, the easiest way to do it is by taking out the micro SD card from the phone and by using a card reader. This is also the easiest way to move music from your computer to the SD card. Otherwise, it?ll be really annoying to move files back-and-forth from the phone, especially if you are using a Mac."

-- http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/553883/scitech/technology/a-closer-look-at-the-microsoft-lumia-950-by-an-apple-fan

Wow. Just wow.

PB


---- Original Message ----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
Reply-To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: 02/05/16 5:13 PM
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc:
Sub: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual Hi Shamil

To my knowledge, Cortana is for a limited selection of languages only which ? at least ? doesn?t include Danish, so I can?t use ?her? as I don?t want to set up the phone for UK or US.
That said, my life isn?t really that complicated that I need a butler to stay clear of trouble, so I don?t miss the feature, except that it could be fun.

/gustav

Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 5. februar 2016 21:07
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] MICROSOFT Lumia 950 Dual

Hi Gustav --

I have got purchased Lumia 950 today with Win10.

Do you use Cortana and if yes how do you set it (her?) up?
It doesn't speak Russian (and as far as I see it doesn't speak Danish language too), and to activate it to speak/recognize English I have to setup my region as UK or US, but if I'll do that I can loose my Win Store accounts etc.... sounds very weird - am I missing something?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Feb 10 23:22:52 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:22:52 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 Update History
Message-ID: <01b501d1648c$41b7f930$c527eb90$@winhaven.net>

While I, along with many, think this should have been done from day one of
any OS, at least it's here now!

 

Windows 10 update history - Windows Help:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/update-history-windows-10

 

We're committed to our customers and strive to incorporate their feedback,
both in how we deliver Windows as a service and the info we provide about
Windows 10. In response to this feedback, we're providing more details about
the Windows 10 updates we deliver through Windows Update. You'll see a
summary of important product developments included in each update, with
links to more details. This page will be regularly refreshed, as new updates
are released.

 

We're currently delivering updates to two distinct Windows 10 branches. 

The July initial launch branch (build 10240), and the November update branch
(build 10586). We introduced new operating system features in November after
having previewed, or "flighted", them with our Windows Insiders between July
and November. Most customers have already been moved automatically from the
July branch to the November branch. 

Windows 10 Professional, Enterprise, and Education edition customers can
defer the update to the November branch and stay on the July feature set
longer - as long as 10 years for some Enterprise customers. For more info,
see Windows 10 servicing options
<http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=724306>.

 

Windows 10 updates are cumulative of all previous updates. Installing the
latest one makes your device current. Windows Store apps are updated through
the Windows Store. Details about app updates are provided on a per app
basis.

 

The following sections list some key improvements included in each update.

 

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/update-history-windows-10

 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Feb 12 09:35:20 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:35:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Project management software sharing
Message-ID: <002201d165aa$fbba47b0$f32ed710$@gmail.com>

I received the following from a reader and I'm not going to be much help. I
was hoping someone might have a good recommendation. After chatting with him
just a bit, I learned that sharing is the main issue and they don't want to
rely on the Internet - so no web-based apps. I've worked with some project
management software, but always as a single user. Thanks for your thoughts.
- Susan H. 

 

".we are looking for an easy to use project management tool to manage a
project with turnkey equipment suppliers from Europe, the client in China,
and the mani team based in Edinburgh. The internet is a real problem in
China so anything that is web-based is a non-starter. Microsoft project
looks like a good solution and being popular we would imagine we can get
support for it to be set-up for us. Can you recommend anything else and is
this the type of work you could help us with?"


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 12 12:49:16 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 11:49:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
In-Reply-To: <002201d165aa$fbba47b0$f32ed710$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1620381129.13999780.1455302956314.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

As Smartphones continue to increase in hardware and performance; 64bit ARM multi-cored 4-6 and  64GB of RAM, it has become apparent that our phones are no longer pocket calculators but computers that may very well match or surpass the capabilities of any other computer we have.

To that end here is a great new OS for our smartphones called Maru: http://maruos.com

Right now it is only tested for the latest Nexus smartphone and the Operating System is only in Beta but this is the start. See link to the designers/developers blog: http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD

Aside: One feature I particularly like is that once the OS is installed on the phone all the crapware is gone. I have not personally seen this OS being used but have heard it is very fast.

Jim 
 

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Feb 12 15:19:16 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 00:19:16 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Another_OS_but_different?=
In-Reply-To: <1620381129.13999780.1455302956314.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <002201d165aa$fbba47b0$f32ed710$@gmail.com>
	<1620381129.13999780.1455302956314.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1455311956.963588031@f229.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Yes, it looks interesting.

BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 11:49 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>As Smartphones continue to increase in hardware and performance; 64bit ARM multi-cored 4-6 and  64GB of RAM, it has become apparent that our phones are no longer pocket calculators but computers that may very well match or surpass the capabilities of any other computer we have.
>
>To that end here is a great new OS for our smartphones called Maru:  http://maruos.com
>
>Right now it is only tested for the latest Nexus smartphone and the Operating System is only in Beta but this is the start. See link to the designers/developers blog:  http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD
>
>Aside: One feature I particularly like is that once the OS is installed on the phone all the crapware is gone. I have not personally seen this OS being used but have heard it is very fast.
>
>Jim 
>?
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From df.waters at outlook.com  Fri Feb 12 17:10:49 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:10:49 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
In-Reply-To: <1455311956.963588031@f229.i.mail.ru>
References: <002201d165aa$fbba47b0$f32ed710$@gmail.com>	<1620381129.13999780.1455302956314.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<1455311956.963588031@f229.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS8789D6DB22B44E556B563F6A90@phx.gbl>

Shamil,

If you bought your 950 before the end of January, you may be able to get a free dock if you request it by the end of February.  MS says limited quantities.  Good Luck!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 3:19 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

 Hi Jim --

Yes, it looks interesting.

BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 11:49 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>As Smartphones continue to increase in hardware and performance; 64bit ARM multi-cored 4-6 and  64GB of RAM, it has become apparent that our phones are no longer pocket calculators but computers that may very well match or surpass the capabilities of any other computer we have.
>
>To that end here is a great new OS for our smartphones called Maru:  http://maruos.com
>
>Right now it is only tested for the latest Nexus smartphone and the Operating System is only in Beta but this is the start. See link to the designers/developers blog:  http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD
>
>Aside: One feature I particularly like is that once the OS is installed on the phone all the crapware is gone. I have not personally seen this OS being used but have heard it is very fast.
>
>Jim 
> 
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Feb 12 18:20:20 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 03:20:20 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Another_OS_but_different?=
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-DS8789D6DB22B44E556B563F6A90@phx.gbl>
References: <002201d165aa$fbba47b0$f32ed710$@gmail.com>
	<1455311956.963588031@f229.i.mail.ru>
	<BLU176-DS8789D6DB22B44E556B563F6A90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1455322820.585594465@f320.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Dan --

Thank you for your hint.

But I have bought Microsoft Lumia 950 DS from one of the local dealers (key.ru) - I doubt I may pretend on any "free cheese" from them or from Microsoft (https://www.microsoft.com/ru-ru/mobile/phone/lumia950-dual-sim/)...

Could you please clarify where information on "free cheese" Microsoft Display Dock proposal ( https://www.microsoft.com/ru-ru/mobile/accessory/hd-500/ ) is published? Is this proposal available worldwide?

BTW, there are *no* official Microsoft Inc. offices here in Russia - there is here just "Microsoft RUS" Ltd. -  http://rubrikator.org/russia/saint-petersburg/maykrosoft-rus

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 5:10 PM -06:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
>
>Shamil,
>
>If you bought your 950 before the end of January, you may be able to get a free dock if you request it by the end of February.  MS says limited quantities.  Good Luck!
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 3:19 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Yes, it looks interesting.
>
>BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>>Friday, February 12, 2016 11:49 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>
>>As Smartphones continue to increase in hardware and performance; 64bit ARM multi-cored 4-6 and  64GB of RAM, it has become apparent that our phones are no longer pocket calculators but computers that may very well match or surpass the capabilities of any other computer we have.
>>
>>To that end here is a great new OS for our smartphones called Maru:  http://maruos.com
>>
>>Right now it is only tested for the latest Nexus smartphone and the Operating System is only in Beta but this is the start. See link to the designers/developers blog:  http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD
>>
>>Aside: One feature I particularly like is that once the OS is installed on the phone all the crapware is gone. I have not personally seen this OS being used but have heard it is very fast.
>>
>>Jim 
>>?

From df.waters at outlook.com  Fri Feb 12 19:29:20 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:29:20 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
In-Reply-To: <1455322820.585594465@f320.i.mail.ru>
References: <002201d165aa$fbba47b0$f32ed710$@gmail.com>	<1455311956.963588031@f229.i.mail.ru>	<BLU176-DS8789D6DB22B44E556B563F6A90@phx.gbl>
	<1455322820.585594465@f320.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS3754D67714D4E7187E9FCF6AA0@phx.gbl>

Hi Shamil,

I was wrong!  :-(  It turns out that the free dock was only for the 950 XL, not the 950.

This is the site:  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/microsoft-display-dock-offer/

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:20 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

 Hi Dan --

Thank you for your hint.

But I have bought Microsoft Lumia 950 DS from one of the local dealers (key.ru) - I doubt I may pretend on any "free cheese" from them or from Microsoft (https://www.microsoft.com/ru-ru/mobile/phone/lumia950-dual-sim/)...

Could you please clarify where information on "free cheese" Microsoft Display Dock proposal ( https://www.microsoft.com/ru-ru/mobile/accessory/hd-500/ ) is published? Is this proposal available worldwide?

BTW, there are *no* official Microsoft Inc. offices here in Russia - there is here just "Microsoft RUS" Ltd. -  http://rubrikator.org/russia/saint-petersburg/maykrosoft-rus

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 5:10 PM -06:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
>
>Shamil,
>
>If you bought your 950 before the end of January, you may be able to get a free dock if you request it by the end of February.  MS says limited quantities.  Good Luck!
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 3:19 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
> Hi Jim --
>
>Yes, it looks interesting.
>
>BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>>Friday, February 12, 2016 11:49 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>
>>As Smartphones continue to increase in hardware and performance; 64bit ARM multi-cored 4-6 and  64GB of RAM, it has become apparent that our phones are no longer pocket calculators but computers that may very well match or surpass the capabilities of any other computer we have.
>>
>>To that end here is a great new OS for our smartphones called Maru:  http://maruos.com
>>
>>Right now it is only tested for the latest Nexus smartphone and the Operating System is only in Beta but this is the start. See link to the designers/developers blog:  http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD
>>
>>Aside: One feature I particularly like is that once the OS is installed on the phone all the crapware is gone. I have not personally seen this OS being used but have heard it is very fast.
>>
>>Jim 
>> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 12 20:04:15 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:04:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
In-Reply-To: <1455311956.963588031@f229.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <2050828226.14333673.1455329055507.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.

I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 1:19:16 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

 Hi Jim --

Yes, it looks interesting.

BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 11:49 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>As Smartphones continue to increase in hardware and performance; 64bit ARM multi-cored 4-6 and  64GB of RAM, it has become apparent that our phones are no longer pocket calculators but computers that may very well match or surpass the capabilities of any other computer we have.
>
>To that end here is a great new OS for our smartphones called Maru:  http://maruos.com
>
>Right now it is only tested for the latest Nexus smartphone and the Operating System is only in Beta but this is the start. See link to the designers/developers blog:  http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD
>
>Aside: One feature I particularly like is that once the OS is installed on the phone all the crapware is gone. I have not personally seen this OS being used but have heard it is very fast.
>
>Jim 
>?
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From df.waters at outlook.com  Fri Feb 12 20:31:01 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 20:31:01 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
In-Reply-To: <2050828226.14333673.1455329055507.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1455311956.963588031@f229.i.mail.ru>
	<2050828226.14333673.1455329055507.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS1958F93C4F7402B6F63508F6AA0@phx.gbl>

Probably the Lumia 1020.  The main camera has 41 Mp.  

You can take a picture of a distant object and then zoom in to see detail you couldn't see at all with your own eyes.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/phone/lumia1020/


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:04 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

Hi Shamil:

It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.

I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 1:19:16 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

 Hi Jim --

Yes, it looks interesting.

BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 11:49 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>As Smartphones continue to increase in hardware and performance; 64bit ARM multi-cored 4-6 and  64GB of RAM, it has become apparent that our phones are no longer pocket calculators but computers that may very well match or surpass the capabilities of any other computer we have.
>
>To that end here is a great new OS for our smartphones called Maru:  http://maruos.com
>
>Right now it is only tested for the latest Nexus smartphone and the Operating System is only in Beta but this is the start. See link to the designers/developers blog:  http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD
>
>Aside: One feature I particularly like is that once the OS is installed on the phone all the crapware is gone. I have not personally seen this OS being used but have heard it is very fast.
>
>Jim 
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 12 20:38:59 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:38:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
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I think Microsoft's Smartphone is definitely ahead in video management. Just for that alone, the Lumia 1020, might warrant a closer look.

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:31:01 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

Probably the Lumia 1020.  The main camera has 41 Mp.  

You can take a picture of a distant object and then zoom in to see detail you couldn't see at all with your own eyes.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/phone/lumia1020/


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:04 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

Hi Shamil:

It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.

I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 1:19:16 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

 Hi Jim --

Yes, it looks interesting.

BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 11:49 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>As Smartphones continue to increase in hardware and performance; 64bit ARM multi-cored 4-6 and  64GB of RAM, it has become apparent that our phones are no longer pocket calculators but computers that may very well match or surpass the capabilities of any other computer we have.
>
>To that end here is a great new OS for our smartphones called Maru:  http://maruos.com
>
>Right now it is only tested for the latest Nexus smartphone and the Operating System is only in Beta but this is the start. See link to the designers/developers blog:  http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD
>
>Aside: One feature I particularly like is that once the OS is installed on the phone all the crapware is gone. I have not personally seen this OS being used but have heard it is very fast.
>
>Jim 
> 
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb 13 05:04:54 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:04:54 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Another_OS_but_different?=
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	<BLU176-DS3754D67714D4E7187E9FCF6AA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1455361494.597464840@f320.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Dan --

Pity :(

Well,?Microsoft Display Dock is worth ~USD90 (its current price here) to try - this Continuum (computing) experience promise to become mainstream very soon - and Microsoft is "ahead of all the planet" this time with ready to use hardware and software to develop Universal Windows Apps, which (with some modifications) will also run on IPhone/iPad/Mac/Android... - not as well probably as native apps for these other computing platforms but it's just the beginning....

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 7:29 PM -06:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
>
>Hi Shamil,
>
>I was wrong!  :-(  It turns out that the free dock was only for the 950 XL, not the 950.
>
>This is the site:  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/microsoft-display-dock-offer/
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:20 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>?Hi Dan --
>
>Thank you for your hint.
>
>But I have bought Microsoft Lumia 950 DS from one of the local dealers (key.ru) - I doubt I may pretend on any "free cheese" from them or from Microsoft ( https://www.microsoft.com/ru-ru/mobile/phone/lumia950-dual-sim/ )...
>
>Could you please clarify where information on "free cheese" Microsoft Display Dock proposal (  https://www.microsoft.com/ru-ru/mobile/accessory/hd-500/ ) is published? Is this proposal available worldwide?
>
>BTW, there are *no* official Microsoft Inc. offices here in Russia - there is here just "Microsoft RUS" Ltd. -  http://rubrikator.org/russia/saint-petersburg/maykrosoft-rus
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>>Friday, February 12, 2016 5:10 PM -06:00 from Dan Waters < df.waters at outlook.com >:
>>
>>Shamil,
>>
>>If you bought your 950 before the end of January, you may be able to get a free dock if you request it by the end of February.  MS says limited quantities.  Good Luck!
>>
>>Dan
>>
>> <<< skipped >>>

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb 13 05:08:58 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:08:58 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Another_OS_but_different?=
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	<2050828226.14333673.1455329055507.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
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 Hi Jim --

>>?I think it is an idea who's time has come
Yes.

>>>?I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has
>>> ?an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.
Yes, Microsoft Lumia 950 - I have it - would you like to see some pictures made by its camera??
I can post them (on my SkyDrive public area) next week to see how good/bad they are.
I will put camera in all automatic mode to make sure I will not introduce any "noise".

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 7:04 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.
>
>I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 1:19:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Yes, it looks interesting.
>
>BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil <<< skipped >>>
>

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb 13 05:13:45 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:13:45 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Another_OS_but_different?=
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 Hi Dan ---

I thought it's Lumia 950?
It has the best lenses - there is no any other smartphone, and it does produce non-compressed DNG image files as Lumia 1020 and 1520 do ( http://www.windowscentral.com/shooting-raw-your-nokia-lumia-pureview-camera )

?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 8:31 PM -06:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
>
>Probably the Lumia 1020.  The main camera has 41 Mp. 
>
>You can take a picture of a distant object and then zoom in to see detail you couldn't see at all with your own eyes.
>
>https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/phone/lumia1020/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:04 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.
>
>I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.
>
>Jim <<< skipped >>>

>

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb 13 05:18:12 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:18:12 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Another_OS_but_different?=
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	<599823738.14349974.1455331139666.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1455362292.703329638@f149.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

Have a look:

"iPhone 6s Plus vs Lumia 950 XL camera : the one you have been waiting for"?
http://tinyurl.com/zypw2ta ?

and

"Microsoft Lumia 950 vs iPhone 6S Plus Camera Comparison"?
http://tinyurl.com/hfdn8sd

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 7:38 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>I think Microsoft's Smartphone is definitely ahead in video management. Just for that alone, the Lumia 1020, might warrant a closer look.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan Waters" < df.waters at outlook.com >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:31:01 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>Probably the Lumia 1020.  The main camera has 41 Mp. 
>
>You can take a picture of a distant object and then zoom in to see detail you couldn't see at all with your own eyes.
>
>https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/phone/lumia1020/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:04 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.
>
>I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.
>
>Jim
<<< skipped>>>
>

From df.waters at outlook.com  Sat Feb 13 06:15:50 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 06:15:50 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
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Hi Shamil,
I was just going on the megapixel rating - I'm not a photographer.  It does sound like you've done some good research on the camera performance!
For a while now I've been planning to get a 950 XL.  Maybe in a few months.  I already bought a case just to be sure I would be OK with the size!
Dan

> From: mcp2004 at mail.ru
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:13:45 +0300
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
> 
>  Hi Dan ---
> 
> I thought it's Lumia 950?
> It has the best lenses - there is no any other smartphone, and it does produce non-compressed DNG image files as Lumia 1020 and 1520 do ( http://www.windowscentral.com/shooting-raw-your-nokia-lumia-pureview-camera )
> 
> ?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
> >Friday, February 12, 2016 8:31 PM -06:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
> >
> >Probably the Lumia 1020.  The main camera has 41 Mp. 
> >
> >You can take a picture of a distant object and then zoom in to see detail you couldn't see at all with your own eyes.
> >
> >https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/phone/lumia1020/
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> >Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:04 PM
> >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
> >
> >Hi Shamil:
> >
> >It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.
> >
> >I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.
> >
> >Jim <<< skipped >>>
> 
> >
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sat Feb 13 06:38:55 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:38:55 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Another_OS_but_different?=
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-W6587FD8B879513D54F2CEF6AA0@phx.gbl>
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	<1455362025.841573144@f170.i.mail.ru>
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Message-ID: <1455367135.95055528@f354.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Dan --

I'n not a photographer too. And I have got Microsoft Lumia 950 purchased first of all because of its software development and running opportunities - Win 10 and Universal Windows apps.

Even this Microsoft Lumia 950 feels too large for me - I'm adapting to it after my good old Nokia Lumia 800. Fortunately I have a large enough palm and I can control Microsoft Lumia 950 by one right or left palm :)

My son plans to purchase a good non-cropped real camera - then we can compare how god/bad Lumia 950 camera really is.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:15 AM -06:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
>
>Hi Shamil,
>I was just going on the megapixel rating - I'm not a photographer.  It does sound like you've done some good research on the camera performance!
>For a while now I've been planning to get a 950 XL.  Maybe in a few months.  I already bought a case just to be sure I would be OK with the size!
>Dan
>
>> From:  mcp2004 at mail.ru
>> To:  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:13:45 +0300
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>> 
>>  Hi Dan ---
>> 
>> I thought it's Lumia 950?
>> It has the best lenses - there is no any other smartphone, and it does produce non-compressed DNG image files as Lumia 1020 and 1520 do (  http://www.windowscentral.com/shooting-raw-your-nokia-lumia-pureview-camera )
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> -- Shamil <<< skipped >>>
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb 13 11:08:54 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:08:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Time to take some Azure and Linux training
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-W6587FD8B879513D54F2CEF6AA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1961072856.14650620.1455383334468.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Microsoft is providing a couple of inter-related courses for the new world techs.

One, is learning how to use Azure and the second, is learning how to use Linux. The courses are free but the exams are not free but are very reasonably priced; $159 and $179 respectively.

http://bit.ly/20S7M0U

Jim

PS If more Linux training is to sought, I would recommend taking online courses from Linux Academy. From beginners and advanced training (i.e. Redhat certification) and a host of speciality courses on the latest tech on everything Linux (programming, Cloud etc: http://bit.ly/1PulGOb). The pricing is very reasonable at $29.00 per month. Using the link below also gives a course reduction: 

https://linuxacademy.com/unplugged

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb 13 15:22:14 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:22:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
In-Reply-To: <1455361738.505835665@f320.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <106496564.14825106.1455398534708.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

Yes, please do that. :-)

Send me the links when you get things posted.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:08:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

 Hi Jim --

>>?I think it is an idea who's time has come
Yes.

>>>?I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has
>>> ?an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.
Yes, Microsoft Lumia 950 - I have it - would you like to see some pictures made by its camera??
I can post them (on my SkyDrive public area) next week to see how good/bad they are.
I will put camera in all automatic mode to make sure I will not introduce any "noise".

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 7:04 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.
>
>I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 1:19:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>?Hi Jim --
>
>Yes, it looks interesting.
>
>BTW, Microsoft Lumia 950 with Win10 (I have got it purchased last week) has the same feature - it is able to be docked to a large screen and to an external real keypad and to have its Windows Universal Apps (including Office suite apps) adapted their UI "automagically". I haven't tried it yet - purchasing the docking hardware (a small box) is the next step for me planned for this March.
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil <<< skipped >>>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb 13 15:48:19 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:48:19 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
In-Reply-To: <1455362292.703329638@f149.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <484535771.14837930.1455400099455.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

It is definitely clear that the Limia is superior. Better translation at faster frame rates, greater colour range, in both lighted and night conditions, greater detail, better edge management and superior in managing camera movement.

Superior in all ways and I would suspect that to be true for all other phone cameras. The built in camera is not better or even equal to that of a full-size camera but the price is far more reasonable...another big plus.

If all other features on this smartphone are even just equal this should be the device of choice...IMHO.
 
Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:18:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

 Hi Jim --

Have a look:

"iPhone 6s Plus vs Lumia 950 XL camera : the one you have been waiting for"?
http://tinyurl.com/zypw2ta ?

and

"Microsoft Lumia 950 vs iPhone 6S Plus Camera Comparison"?
http://tinyurl.com/hfdn8sd

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, February 12, 2016 7:38 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>I think Microsoft's Smartphone is definitely ahead in video management. Just for that alone, the Lumia 1020, might warrant a closer look.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan Waters" < df.waters at outlook.com >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:31:01 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>Probably the Lumia 1020.  The main camera has 41 Mp. 
>
>You can take a picture of a distant object and then zoom in to see detail you couldn't see at all with your own eyes.
>
>https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/phone/lumia1020/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:04 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>It seems that there are a number of companies and individuals working in this direction. I think it is an idea who's time has come.
>
>I hear the Lumia (I am not sure of the model...maybe it all models) has an excellent camera built in...best in the business I hear.
>
>Jim
<<< skipped>>>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Feb 13 16:04:10 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:04:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
In-Reply-To: <1455367135.95055528@f354.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1063546406.14843429.1455401050412.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Just a note: A full size camera can create huge RAW images in the "many" GB range. Resulting pictures can be quite incredible though the time delay for downloading the entire photo almost always necessitates a tripod. (When there is movement with the frame multiple images are taken and overlayed and averaged in you Photoshop application...a technique that I have seen but never used.) 

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:38:55 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different

 Hi Dan --

I'n not a photographer too. And I have got Microsoft Lumia 950 purchased first of all because of its software development and running opportunities - Win 10 and Universal Windows apps.

Even this Microsoft Lumia 950 feels too large for me - I'm adapting to it after my good old Nokia Lumia 800. Fortunately I have a large enough palm and I can control Microsoft Lumia 950 by one right or left palm :)

My son plans to purchase a good non-cropped real camera - then we can compare how god/bad Lumia 950 camera really is.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:15 AM -06:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
>
>Hi Shamil,
>I was just going on the megapixel rating - I'm not a photographer.  It does sound like you've done some good research on the camera performance!
>For a while now I've been planning to get a 950 XL.  Maybe in a few months.  I already bought a case just to be sure I would be OK with the size!
>Dan
>
>> From:  mcp2004 at mail.ru
>> To:  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:13:45 +0300
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Another OS but different
>> 
>>  Hi Dan ---
>> 
>> I thought it's Lumia 950?
>> It has the best lenses - there is no any other smartphone, and it does produce non-compressed DNG image files as Lumia 1020 and 1520 do (  http://www.windowscentral.com/shooting-raw-your-nokia-lumia-pureview-camera )
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> -- Shamil <<< skipped >>>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Feb 13 18:09:42 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:09:42 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Galaxy Core Prime
Message-ID: <1D425D3DAE39466B91F99219C414197A@HAL9007>

Verizon says they will upgrade our Galaxy S4s to a Galaxy Core Prime for
$1.83 a month for 24 months - no contract extension required.
 
What's a Galaxy Core Prime?  I know nothing about these cell-o-phones.  
 
r
 

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 08:12:39 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:12:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
Message-ID: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and
general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
day and it's getting old. 

 

Susan H. 


From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Mon Feb 15 08:16:17 2016
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:16:17 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eadbc1bc717f443f90e70fa29bd999a4@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

Hi Susan

I don't use Edge because of its main feature - it doesn't allow plugins. That means I can't block ads, so I'm not using it.

I do use IE11 for some sites (although it's been crashing a LOT in the last few days), and WaterFox (64bit Firefox), both with adblockers installed. Makes browsing a much nicer experience that way.


Jon

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Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a day and it's getting old.



Susan H.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Feb 15 08:19:26 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:19:26 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15846B67CE46508D8B39DF04CAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

I use it as the primary browser because it is so fast and displays PDF files natively so I don't have to have Acrobot installed. A great advantage. 
I've seen zero issues with it.

However, some sites are so bugged by advertising that I have to use IE11 with AD Blocker and Ghostery installed to access these. Also, a single site I visit uses Java, and then Edge won't do.

/gustav

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Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a day and it's getting old. 

 Susan H. 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 08:43:58 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:43:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <eadbc1bc717f443f90e70fa29bd999a4@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
	<eadbc1bc717f443f90e70fa29bd999a4@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
Message-ID: <003e01d167ff$4dbcb830$e9362890$@gmail.com>

Well, I have a 64-bit system. I wonder if that's my Firefox problem? 

Susan H. 


Hi Susan


I do use IE11 for some sites (although it's been crashing a LOT in the last
few days), and WaterFox (64bit Firefox), both with adblockers installed.
Makes browsing a much nicer experience that way.




From jon.tydda at lonza.com  Mon Feb 15 08:50:00 2016
From: jon.tydda at lonza.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:50:00 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <003e01d167ff$4dbcb830$e9362890$@gmail.com>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
	<eadbc1bc717f443f90e70fa29bd999a4@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>
	<003e01d167ff$4dbcb830$e9362890$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7f77368bb3ab4ab78b9f8b486e1faa4c@CHVEX12.lonzagroup.net>

The 32bit version will run fine, but the 64bit Waterfox should use memory a lot better. I use the same combination on my Windows 7 64 at work, and it's all good (except where we're restricted to IE for corporate stuff).


Jon

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To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Well, I have a 64-bit system. I wonder if that's my Firefox problem?

Susan H.


Hi Susan


I do use IE11 for some sites (although it's been crashing a LOT in the last few days), and WaterFox (64bit Firefox), both with adblockers installed.
Makes browsing a much nicer experience that way.



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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 15 10:19:04 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:19:04 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56C1FA78.6030303@earthlink.net>

On 2/15/2016 8:12, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and
> general behavior.

Doesn't do things I need done, doesn't work at all well as the default 
PDF reader win 10 sets it up as. Ain't ready for prime time. I use 
Chrome (v48), problem-free, syncs bookmarks across all win & android 
devices, who could ask for more?

PB

-----
> I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
> day and it's getting old.
>
>   
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 10:39:16 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:39:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <56C1FA78.6030303@earthlink.net>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
	<56C1FA78.6030303@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001e01d1680f$693145d0$3b93d170$@gmail.com>

When I bought this 64-bit system, I ran Chrome and Firefox to test. Firefox
seemed the fastest, routinely. But a few times a day, I'm pushing the button
to power down because the system locks up. 

I don't want to blame Firefox, but it does momentarily freeze a lot. I
suspect the real culprit may be Flash. :( I get a lot of script errors. 

I don't know what the problem is, but powering down and starting over every
single day is getting old. 

Susan H. 

On 2/15/2016 8:12, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed 
> and general behavior.

Doesn't do things I need done, doesn't work at all well as the default PDF
reader win 10 sets it up as. Ain't ready for prime time. I use Chrome (v48),
problem-free, syncs bookmarks across all win & android devices, who could
ask for more?

PB

-----
> I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
> day and it's getting old.
>
>   
>
> Susan H.
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Feb 15 10:39:24 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:39:24 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15849046929B815BBE5FED59CAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan et al

I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.

Any examples, please?

/gustav


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Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a day and it's getting old. 

 Susan H. 


From Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com  Mon Feb 15 10:41:30 2016
From: Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com (Zimmer, Michael)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:41:30 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <56C1FA78.6030303@earthlink.net>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
	<56C1FA78.6030303@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF5D0AC@sfldmiex022>

Same problems here.  Edge is, in my opinion, less useful than the Win 8's IE tile program, and that was slow and prone to freezing.  It is terrible in playing back YouTube videos -- many times the sound is completely garbled and requires a page reload, and reload again before sound is recognizable.

I also have problems with both Firefox and Chrome freezing up in Win 10, though Chrome less so than Firefox.  

Regardless, it's enough problems to finally have driven me to use Linux Mint full-time at home.  Right now at work, we are still using Window 7, however, I hear that a corporate switch to Win 10 is in the works.  Shudder!!

Your mileage may vary.

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:19 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

On 2/15/2016 8:12, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed 
> and general behavior.

Doesn't do things I need done, doesn't work at all well as the default PDF reader win 10 sets it up as. Ain't ready for prime time. I use Chrome (v48), problem-free, syncs bookmarks across all win & android devices, who could ask for more?

PB

-----
> I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
> day and it's getting old.
>
>   
>
> Susan H.
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 10:50:56 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:50:56 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15849046929B815BBE5FED59CAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15849046929B815BBE5FED59CAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <000301d16811$0b193870$214ba950$@gmail.com>

I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now,
I'm at 

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html

.... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash error,
which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the sites I visit
are ad-driven and they take forever to load. 

My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate to
handle this stuff. 

I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for the
most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes forever
to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab. 

I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much. 

Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned it to
the dh and I think he's researching replacements. 

Susan H.  


Hi Susan et al

I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and
Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it
is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so
rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.

Any examples, please?

/gustav


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Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
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<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and
general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
day and it's getting old. 

 Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 10:52:16 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:52:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF5D0AC@sfldmiex022>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>	<56C1FA78.6030303@earthlink.net>
	<6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF5D0AC@sfldmiex022>
Message-ID: <000601d16811$3a592af0$af0b80d0$@gmail.com>

Thanks -- I'm glad to hear that. Well, no... not glad, but you know what I
mean. I mean there is some comfort in knowing others are experiencing the
same thing. 

Susan H. 

I also have problems with both Firefox and Chrome freezing up in Win 10,
though Chrome less so than Firefox.  


From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Feb 15 11:11:35 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:11:35 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB158450E94C79D1387B27BB8ECAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

Here, the dummies site loads in 5-15 seconds with Edge and starts playing the video.
Browsing to a new page is about the same.
With IE it's about 5 seconds, but that's without the video which is blocked by the ad blocker.

Hometalk loads in a few seconds in both Edge and IE. Clicking a large picture like this:

http://www.hometalk.com/5446799/how-to-turn-a-knife-block-into-crayon-holder

opens the slide show page in a split second in IE with the ad blocker, in Edge it takes a couple of seconds to have the side and top ads loaded.

Our WAN is 12 Mb/s only. We use the default Windows Defender - and SecureDNS which blocks blacklisted hosts.

/gustav

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Sendt: 15. februar 2016 17:51
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now, I'm at 

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html

.... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash error, which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the sites I visit are ad-driven and they take forever to load. 

My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate to handle this stuff. 

I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for the most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes forever to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab. 

I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much. 

Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned it to the dh and I think he's researching replacements. 

Susan H.  


Hi Susan et al

I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.

Any examples, please?

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a day and it's getting old. 

 Susan H. 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 11:15:22 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:15:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB158450E94C79D1387B27BB8ECAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB158450E94C79D1387B27BB8ECAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <001a01d16814$7439e180$5cada480$@gmail.com>

Both of those sites churn and churn for me. I can't use them thumb to move
down to see anything -- it hates that! Maybe that's a clue? 

That dummies link never did stop churning -- I could read it and view the
video, but the icon continued to churn. 

Susan H. 

Here, the dummies site loads in 5-15 seconds with Edge and starts playing
the video.
Browsing to a new page is about the same.
With IE it's about 5 seconds, but that's without the video which is blocked
by the ad blocker.

Hometalk loads in a few seconds in both Edge and IE. Clicking a large
picture like this:

http://www.hometalk.com/5446799/how-to-turn-a-knife-block-into-crayon-holder

opens the slide show page in a split second in IE with the ad blocker, in
Edge it takes a couple of seconds to have the side and top ads loaded.

Our WAN is 12 Mb/s only. We use the default Windows Defender - and SecureDNS
which blocks blacklisted hosts.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
Susan Harkins
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 17:51
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now,
I'm at 

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html

.... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash error,
which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the sites I visit
are ad-driven and they take forever to load. 

My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate to
handle this stuff. 

I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for the
most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes forever
to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab. 

I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much. 

Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned it to
the dh and I think he's researching replacements. 

Susan H.  


Hi Susan et al

I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and
Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it
is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so
rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.

Any examples, please?

/gustav


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Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
Susan Harkins
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and
general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
day and it's getting old. 

 Susan H. 

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 15 11:38:47 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:38:47 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <001e01d1680f$693145d0$3b93d170$@gmail.com>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>
	<56C1FA78.6030303@earthlink.net>
	<001e01d1680f$693145d0$3b93d170$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56C20D27.5070605@earthlink.net>

On 2/15/2016 10:39, Susan Harkins wrote:
> When I bought this 64-bit system, I ran Chrome and Firefox to test. Firefox
> seemed the fastest, routinely. But a few times a day, I'm pushing the button
> to power down because the system locks up.
>
> I don't want to blame Firefox, but it does momentarily freeze a lot. I
> suspect the real culprit may be Flash.

It's a very badly behaving pig. Chrome has a "FlashCon trol" extension 
that blocks Flash unless you click on the image. When I installed that, 
lots of problems went away including unbidden videos, ugh.

PB

-----

> :( I get a lot of script errors.
>
> I don't know what the problem is, but powering down and starting over every
> single day is getting old.
>
> Susan H.
>
> On 2/15/2016 8:12, Susan Harkins wrote:
>> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed
>> and general behavior.
> Doesn't do things I need done, doesn't work at all well as the default PDF
> reader win 10 sets it up as. Ain't ready for prime time. I use Chrome (v48),
> problem-free, syncs bookmarks across all win & android devices, who could
> ask for more?
>
> PB
>
> -----
>> I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
>> day and it's getting old.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 15 11:49:30 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:49:30 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <000301d16811$0b193870$214ba950$@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15849046929B815BBE5FED59CAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<000301d16811$0b193870$214ba950$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56C20FAA.4040505@earthlink.net>

On 2/15/2016 10:50, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now,
> I'm at
>
> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html
>
> .... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash error,
> which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the sites I visit
> are ad-driven and they take forever to load.

Yeah, sounds like Flash glut. Consider Chrome with Flash Control. I 
think FreFox has a flash control extension too.

PB

>
> My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate to
> handle this stuff.
>
> I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for the
> most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
> hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes forever
> to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab.
>
> I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much.
>
> Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned it to
> the dh and I think he's researching replacements.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
> Hi Susan et al
>
> I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and
> Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it
> is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so
> rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.
>
> Any examples, please?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
> Susan Harkins
> Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
> Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>
> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and
> general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
> day and it's getting old.
>
>   Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 15 11:52:53 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:52:53 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <000301d16811$0b193870$214ba950$@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15849046929B815BBE5FED59CAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<000301d16811$0b193870$214ba950$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56C21075.7000908@earthlink.net>

On 2/15/2016 10:50, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now,
> I'm at
>
> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html
>

Chrome 64-bit running on a modest win10 laptop loads it in 5 secs, flash 
vids do n't run unless I click them.

PB

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 11:46:17 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:46:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <56C20D27.5070605@earthlink.net>
References: <000201d167fa$ee1c44d0$ca54ce70$@gmail.com>	<56C1FA78.6030303@earthlink.net>	<001e01d1680f$693145d0$3b93d170$@gmail.com>
	<56C20D27.5070605@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002601d16818$c6695270$533bf750$@gmail.com>

I remember having a lot of Flash problems with Chrome and it's one of the
reasons I tried Firefox -- the extension in Chrome kept resetting itself. :(
It would behave for several days and then the errors would start again. I
had to reset it often. 

I'll have to see if Firefox has something similar. 

Susan H. 

On 2/15/2016 10:39, Susan Harkins wrote:
> When I bought this 64-bit system, I ran Chrome and Firefox to test. 
> Firefox seemed the fastest, routinely. But a few times a day, I'm 
> pushing the button to power down because the system locks up.
>
> I don't want to blame Firefox, but it does momentarily freeze a lot. I 
> suspect the real culprit may be Flash.

It's a very badly behaving pig. Chrome has a "FlashCon trol" extension that
blocks Flash unless you click on the image. When I installed that, lots of
problems went away including unbidden videos, ugh.

PB

-----

> :( I get a lot of script errors.
>
> I don't know what the problem is, but powering down and starting over 
> every single day is getting old.
>
> Susan H.
>
> On 2/15/2016 8:12, Susan Harkins wrote:
>> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its 
>> speed and general behavior.
> Doesn't do things I need done, doesn't work at all well as the default 
> PDF reader win 10 sets it up as. Ain't ready for prime time. I use 
> Chrome (v48), problem-free, syncs bookmarks across all win & android 
> devices, who could ask for more?
>
> PB
>
> -----
>> I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a day and 
>> it's getting old.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Feb 15 12:33:57 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 18:33:57 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15844AA349F691570C4D9F10CAAC0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

I tried the two sites at home on one of our Lenovo Yoga 2 tablets also with Edge ? powered with a modest Intel Atom Z3745.

Both sites open in a few seconds, then adds loads, and after about 15 seconds the video starts playing.

WAN speed here is 15 Mb/s.

So Edge appears to be a non-issue for these sites.

/gustav

Fra: Susan Harkins<mailto:ssharkins at gmail.com>
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 18:15
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Both of those sites churn and churn for me. I can't use them thumb to move
down to see anything -- it hates that! Maybe that's a clue?

That dummies link never did stop churning -- I could read it and view the
video, but the icon continued to churn.

Susan H.

Here, the dummies site loads in 5-15 seconds with Edge and starts playing
the video.
Browsing to a new page is about the same.
With IE it's about 5 seconds, but that's without the video which is blocked
by the ad blocker.

Hometalk loads in a few seconds in both Edge and IE. Clicking a large
picture like this:

http://www.hometalk.com/5446799/how-to-turn-a-knife-block-into-crayon-holder

opens the slide show page in a split second in IE with the ad blocker, in
Edge it takes a couple of seconds to have the side and top ads loaded.

Our WAN is 12 Mb/s only. We use the default Windows Defender - and SecureDNS
which blocks blacklisted hosts.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
Susan Harkins
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 17:51
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now,
I'm at

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html

.... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash error,
which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the sites I visit
are ad-driven and they take forever to load.

My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate to
handle this stuff.

I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for the
most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes forever
to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab.

I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much.

Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned it to
the dh and I think he's researching replacements.

Susan H.


Hi Susan et al

I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and
Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it
is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so
rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.

Any examples, please?

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
Susan Harkins
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and
general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
day and it's getting old.

Susan H.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 15 15:29:23 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:29:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Dead links on your websites
In-Reply-To: <56C21075.7000908@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1499639871.16300731.1455571763772.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

For those of you who use or support, the CMS applications like WordPress and Drupal, for their websites, there is now a simple plug-in that if a link is lost, over-time, it can be automatically retrieved from an archive and displayed. Check it out:

http://amberlink.org/

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 15 16:36:23 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 15:36:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Analysing your data
In-Reply-To: <1499639871.16300731.1455571763772.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <577943949.16346569.1455575783562.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Not to be out done, IBM is now giving away the process/software for doing analysis on any data. In others words, according to IBM, its simple and it is free.

You can check it out here:

http://ibm.co/1KlNnKh

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 15 22:11:30 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:11:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <56C20FAA.4040505@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1164351829.16685473.1455595890970.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Peter:

Which version of FF are you using. I am using version 44.0.2 and have not errors loading this page.

That said there are Flash content that will not play but FF seems to just come up with an "violation" screen. The latest Chrome is a little more forgiving but not always.

Go to this site:

http://www.space.ca/episode/season-finale-critical-mass-leviathan-wakes/

...and try to play the videos. I have not installed the latest Flash plugin on my version of FF and just let Chrome handle these rare occasions. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:49:30 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

On 2/15/2016 10:50, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now,
> I'm at
>
> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html
>
> .... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash error,
> which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the sites I visit
> are ad-driven and they take forever to load.

Yeah, sounds like Flash glut. Consider Chrome with Flash Control. I 
think FreFox has a flash control extension too.

PB

>
> My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate to
> handle this stuff.
>
> I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for the
> most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
> hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes forever
> to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab.
>
> I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much.
>
> Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned it to
> the dh and I think he's researching replacements.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
> Hi Susan et al
>
> I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and
> Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it
> is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so
> rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.
>
> Any examples, please?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
> Susan Harkins
> Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
> Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>
> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and
> general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
> day and it's getting old.
>
>   Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 15 22:45:34 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 22:45:34 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <1164351829.16685473.1455595890970.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1164351829.16685473.1455595890970.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <56C2A96E.8090503@earthlink.net>

On 2/15/2016 22:11, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> Which version of FF are you using. I am using version 44.0.2 and have not errors loading this page.

It's Susan who's using FF with win10. I use Chrome, and block execrable 
Flash with the Flash Control extension, so I can ignore most Flash content.

PB

------

>
> That said there are Flash content that will not play but FF seems to just come up with an "violation" screen. The latest Chrome is a little more forgiving but not always.
>
> Go to this site:
>
> http://www.space.ca/episode/season-finale-critical-mass-leviathan-wakes/
>
> ...and try to play the videos. I have not installed the latest Flash plugin on my version of FF and just let Chrome handle these rare occasions.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:49:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>
> On 2/15/2016 10:50, Susan Harkins wrote:
>> I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now,
>> I'm at
>>
>> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html
>>
>> .... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash error,
>> which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the sites I visit
>> are ad-driven and they take forever to load.
> Yeah, sounds like Flash glut. Consider Chrome with Flash Control. I
> think FreFox has a flash control extension too.
>
> PB
>
>> My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate to
>> handle this stuff.
>>
>> I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for the
>> most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
>> hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes forever
>> to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab.
>>
>> I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much.
>>
>> Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned it to
>> the dh and I think he's researching replacements.
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>>
>> Hi Susan et al
>>
>> I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and
>> Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it
>> is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so
>> rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.
>>
>> Any examples, please?
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
>> Susan Harkins
>> Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
>> Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and
>> general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a
>> day and it's getting old.
>>
>>    Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 16 01:42:44 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 07:42:44 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584B18FB731EC8697A6ADD0CAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

And what happens using Edge?

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 18:15
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Both of those sites churn and churn for me. I can't use them thumb to move down to see anything -- it hates that! Maybe that's a clue? 

That dummies link never did stop churning -- I could read it and view the video, but the icon continued to churn. 

Susan H. 

Here, the dummies site loads in 5-15 seconds with Edge and starts playing the video.
Browsing to a new page is about the same.
With IE it's about 5 seconds, but that's without the video which is blocked by the ad blocker.

Hometalk loads in a few seconds in both Edge and IE. Clicking a large picture like this:

http://www.hometalk.com/5446799/how-to-turn-a-knife-block-into-crayon-holder

opens the slide show page in a split second in IE with the ad blocker, in Edge it takes a couple of seconds to have the side and top ads loaded.

Our WAN is 12 Mb/s only. We use the default Windows Defender - and SecureDNS which blocks blacklisted hosts.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 17:51
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just now, I'm at 

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-2016.html

.... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash error, which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the sites I visit are ad-driven and they take forever to load. 

My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate to handle this stuff. 

I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for the most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes forever to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab. 

I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much. 

Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned it to the dh and I think he's researching replacements. 

Susan H.  


Hi Susan et al

I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use IE and Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, and if I do, it is most often malfunctioning government sites. Browsers "crashing" is so rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.

Any examples, please?

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its speed and general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it freezes at least once a day and it's getting old. 

 Susan H. 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 16 01:52:39 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 07:52:39 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584756006EBDEDC543A191CCAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim (and Susan)

That site opens in 5 seconds with Edge, 5 more to load the adds.
After 23 seconds in total, the video starts playing. Zero issues.

IE11 with AD Blocker will not play the video.

So I'm still curious. What sites have you met that will stall Edge?

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 16. februar 2016 05:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Go to this site:

http://www.space.ca/episode/season-finale-critical-mass-leviathan-wakes/

...and try to play the videos. I have not installed the latest Flash plugin on my version of FF and just let Chrome handle these rare occasions. 

Jim 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 05:50:19 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 06:50:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <56C2A96E.8090503@earthlink.net>
References: <1164351829.16685473.1455595890970.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<56C2A96E.8090503@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002201d168b0$36789520$a369bf60$@gmail.com>

I didn't find  similar Flash control setting in FF. You can set a protection setting, but it's not the same thing. At least, the info about it doesn't read that way. 

Interestingly, things got better later in the day. 

Susan H. 


It's Susan who's using FF with win10. I use Chrome, and block execrable Flash with the Flash Control extension, so I can ignore most Flash content.

PB

------

>
> That said there are Flash content that will not play but FF seems to just come up with an "violation" screen. The latest Chrome is a little more forgiving but not always.
>
> Go to this site:
>
> http://www.space.ca/episode/season-finale-critical-mass-leviathan-wake
> s/
>
> ...and try to play the videos. I have not installed the latest Flash plugin on my version of FF and just let Chrome handle these rare occasions.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:49:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>
> On 2/15/2016 10:50, Susan Harkins wrote:
>> I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just 
>> now, I'm at
>>
>> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-201
>> 6.html
>>
>> .... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash 
>> error, which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the 
>> sites I visit are ad-driven and they take forever to load.
> Yeah, sounds like Flash glut. Consider Chrome with Flash Control. I 
> think FreFox has a flash control extension too.
>
> PB
>
>> My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate 
>> to handle this stuff.
>>
>> I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for 
>> the most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
>> hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes 
>> forever to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab.
>>
>> I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much.
>>
>> Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned 
>> it to the dh and I think he's researching replacements.
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>>
>> Hi Susan et al
>>
>> I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use 
>> IE and Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains, 
>> and if I do, it is most often malfunctioning government sites. 
>> Browsers "crashing" is so rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.
>>
>> Any examples, please?
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
>> af Susan Harkins
>> Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
>> Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its 
>> speed and general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it 
>> freezes at least once a day and it's getting old.
>>
>>    Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 06:00:02 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 07:00:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584B18FB731EC8697A6ADD0CAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1584B18FB731EC8697A6ADD0CAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <003701d168b1$91b51980$b51f4c80$@gmail.com>

Later in the day, things improved. I plan to visit Edge and Chrome today to
experiment. I don't bother to block ads anymore -- it seemed like doing so
actually slowed things down. 

Susan H. 


Hi Susan

And what happens using Edge?

/gustav



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 06:07:05 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 07:07:05 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584756006EBDEDC543A191CCAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1584756006EBDEDC543A191CCAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <003801d168b2$8dd26ba0$a97742e0$@gmail.com>

Well, the space site opens fine with FF and Edge this morning. 

Thank you guys for timing things for me -- it really helped put things in perspective. Things aren't all that slow here after all. I get similar timed results. 

But the freezing is a different matter. I really do need to get to the bottom of that. 

Interestingly, about the dummies site -- yesterday, it never did stop churning. I viewed several pages with no problem, but the tab icon never stopped swirling and I received several script errors. So, I don't think that's my problem, but rather the site. 

Susan H. 



Hi Jim (and Susan)

That site opens in 5 seconds with Edge, 5 more to load the adds.
After 23 seconds in total, the video starts playing. Zero issues.

IE11 with AD Blocker will not play the video.

So I'm still curious. What sites have you met that will stall Edge?

/gustav





From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 16 10:46:06 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 10:46:06 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Bad Update for Word 2013
Message-ID: <040001d168d9$8893baf0$99bb30d0$@winhaven.net>

KB3114717
Update 3114717 is no longer available because it causes Microsoft Office
2013 apps, such as Microsoft Word and Microsoft Outlook, to slow down or
freeze. If you've installed this update and you're experiencing these
issues, you can safely remove the update. 

 

To easily remove it:

Windows Key + R

Type: cmd [enter]

Type: wusa /uninstall /KB:3114717 [enter]

follow the prompts


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 16 11:32:27 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:32:27 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <002201d168b0$36789520$a369bf60$@gmail.com>
References: <1164351829.16685473.1455595890970.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<56C2A96E.8090503@earthlink.net>
	<002201d168b0$36789520$a369bf60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56C35D2B.4030107@earthlink.net>

On 2/16/2016 5:50, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I didn't find  similar Flash control setting in FF.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-control/

PB

-----

> You can set a protection setting, but it's not the same thing. At least, the info about it doesn't read that way.
>
> Interestingly, things got better later in the day.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
> It's Susan who's using FF with win10. I use Chrome, and block execrable Flash with the Flash Control extension, so I can ignore most Flash content.
>
> PB
>
> ------
>
>> That said there are Flash content that will not play but FF seems to just come up with an "violation" screen. The latest Chrome is a little more forgiving but not always.
>>
>> Go to this site:
>>
>> http://www.space.ca/episode/season-finale-critical-mass-leviathan-wake
>> s/
>>
>> ...and try to play the videos. I have not installed the latest Flash plugin on my version of FF and just let Chrome handle these rare occasions.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
>> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:49:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> On 2/15/2016 10:50, Susan Harkins wrote:
>>> I browse a lot to see what kind of Office content is out there. Just
>>> now, I'm at
>>>
>>> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/creating-a-template-in-word-201
>>> 6.html
>>>
>>> .... using Firefox, it never does load completely. I got a Flash
>>> error, which I cleared, but it's still churning. Almost all of the
>>> sites I visit are ad-driven and they take forever to load.
>> Yeah, sounds like Flash glut. Consider Chrome with Flash Control. I
>> think FreFox has a flash control extension too.
>>
>> PB
>>
>>> My system's new, but not particularly fast, but it should be adequate
>>> to handle this stuff.
>>>
>>> I don't have trouble with Facebook -- just these ad-driven sites for
>>> the most part. I don't do any shopping or that sort of thing. Oh, here's one...
>>> hometalk.com -- I visit that a few times a day and wow... it takes
>>> forever to load anything there and often, I just give up and close the tab.
>>>
>>> I'm running Vipre, but anymore that doesn't mean much.
>>>
>>> Wireless modem's old and might be part of the problem. I've mentioned
>>> it to the dh and I think he's researching replacements.
>>>
>>> Susan H.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Susan et al
>>>
>>> I'm curious - what sites do you have issues with? My colleagues use
>>> IE and Edge (and Chrome a little), and I very rarely get complains,
>>> and if I do, it is most often malfunctioning government sites.
>>> Browsers "crashing" is so rare that I can't recall the last time it happened.
>>>
>>> Any examples, please?
>>>
>>> /gustav
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
>>> af Susan Harkins
>>> Sendt: 15. februar 2016 15:13
>>> Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>>> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>>>
>>> I'd like to hear from anyone using Edge - just curious about its
>>> speed and general behavior. I'm using FireFox on Win 10 and it
>>> freezes at least once a day and it's getting old.
>>>
>>>     Susan H.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 11:47:50 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:47:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <56C35D2B.4030107@earthlink.net>
References: <1164351829.16685473.1455595890970.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>	<56C2A96E.8090503@earthlink.net>	<002201d168b0$36789520$a369bf60$@gmail.com>
	<56C35D2B.4030107@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000901d168e2$28978010$79c68030$@gmail.com>

Thank you! I'll watch for the icon and see what I can learn. 

Susan H. 

On 2/16/2016 5:50, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I didn't find  similar Flash control setting in FF.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-control/

PB



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Feb 16 15:09:35 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:09:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584756006EBDEDC543A191CCAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <337885975.17254315.1455656975226.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

The site that it linked is not the issue, the playing of the flash video is and that is because I do not have a Flash plugin installed in my FF. Chrome and I suspect Edge, has a Flash player built in. As Chrome is going to eventually not longer support SWF objects, I would guess it is near impossible to sand-box them?

OTOH, on all browsers, there is no problem playing youtube FLV videos. Google's flash videos are designed differently than raw flash SWF code which has been deemed as potentially dangerous(?). Is that correct?

I have not given Edge much of a workout as just about all my work is done on Linux now. ;-) 

Aside: After having three blue-screens, in two weeks, I was off Windows 10 and will probably wait until the next version...or when Windows starts delivering in containers. In the meantime, I will selfishly let other people, like Susan, do the debugging. ;-)

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:52:39 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Hi Jim (and Susan)

That site opens in 5 seconds with Edge, 5 more to load the adds.
After 23 seconds in total, the video starts playing. Zero issues.

IE11 with AD Blocker will not play the video.

So I'm still curious. What sites have you met that will stall Edge?

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 16. februar 2016 05:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Go to this site:

http://www.space.ca/episode/season-finale-critical-mass-leviathan-wakes/

...and try to play the videos. I have not installed the latest Flash plugin on my version of FF and just let Chrome handle these rare occasions. 

Jim 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Feb 16 15:54:00 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 21:54:00 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584EF0FC2C93722A23FD799CAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

OK. And yes, Edge playes those videos out of the box.

But I'm still curious. What sites have you met that will stall Edge? So much talk about all kinds of troubles, while I only see it sprint ? on all machines. Do I live on another planet?

/gustav


Fra: Jim Lawrence<mailto:accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 16. februar 2016 22:09
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Hi Gustav:

The site that it linked is not the issue, the playing of the flash video is and that is because I do not have a Flash plugin installed in my FF. Chrome and I suspect Edge, has a Flash player built in. As Chrome is going to eventually not longer support SWF objects, I would guess it is near impossible to sand-box them?

OTOH, on all browsers, there is no problem playing youtube FLV videos. Google's flash videos are designed differently than raw flash SWF code which has been deemed as potentially dangerous(?). Is that correct?

I have not given Edge much of a workout as just about all my work is done on Linux now. ;-)

Aside: After having three blue-screens, in two weeks, I was off Windows 10 and will probably wait until the next version...or when Windows starts delivering in containers. In the meantime, I will selfishly let other people, like Susan, do the debugging. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:52:39 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Hi Jim (and Susan)

That site opens in 5 seconds with Edge, 5 more to load the adds.
After 23 seconds in total, the video starts playing. Zero issues.

IE11 with AD Blocker will not play the video.

So I'm still curious. What sites have you met that will stall Edge?

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 16. februar 2016 05:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge

Go to this site:

http://www.space.ca/episode/season-finale-critical-mass-leviathan-wakes/

...and try to play the videos. I have not installed the latest Flash plugin on my version of FF and just let Chrome handle these rare occasions.

Jim


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Feb 16 16:35:30 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 01:35:30 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Microsoft_Edge?=
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584EF0FC2C93722A23FD799CAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1584EF0FC2C93722A23FD799CAAD0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1455662130.782596021@f315.i.mail.ru>


>>>?What sites have you met that will stall Edge??
Yes, please, I will try them on MS Edge on Microsoft Lumia 950.

-- Shamil


>Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:54 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Jim
>
>OK. And yes, Edge playes those videos out of the box.
>
>But I'm still curious. What sites have you met that will stall Edge? So much talk about all kinds of troubles, while I only see it sprint ? on all machines. Do I live on another planet?
>
>/gustav
>
>
>Fra: Jim Lawrence<mailto: accessd at shaw.ca >
>Sendt: 16. februar 2016 22:09
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft Edge
>
>Hi Gustav:
>
>The site that it linked is not the issue, the playing of the flash video is and that is because I do not have a Flash plugin installed in my FF. Chrome and I suspect Edge, has a Flash player built in. As Chrome is going to eventually not longer support SWF objects, I would guess it is near impossible to sand-box them?
>
>OTOH, on all browsers, there is no problem playing youtube FLV videos. Google's flash videos are designed differently than raw flash SWF code which has been deemed as potentially dangerous(?). Is that correct?
>
>I have not given Edge much of a workout as just about all my work is done on Linux now. ;-)
>
>Aside: After having three blue-screens, in two weeks, I was off Windows 10 and will probably wait until the next version...or when Windows starts delivering in containers. In the meantime, I will selfishly let other people, like Susan, do the debugging. ;-)
>
>Jim
<<< skipped >>>

>

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 16:52:27 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:52:27 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
Message-ID: <000001d1690c$b60e0070$222a0150$@gmail.com>

I know this is probably a tad off topic for this group but I'd like to ask
about Kindle devices. I've been using Kindle PC, but frankly, it's
cumbersome. I'm thinking about buying a dedicated device, just for the small
size. Right now, I'm reading Kindle downloads from Amazon but I know there
are other formats. Are there any devices that handle multiple formats? If
not, I'll stick with a Kindle but cheap is good - I don't need a lot of
fancy options. I just like to read in bed. J 

 

Susan H. 


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 17:31:20 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:31:20 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
In-Reply-To: <000001d1690c$b60e0070$222a0150$@gmail.com>
References: <000001d1690c$b60e0070$222a0150$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWGpo_+x4m4sP41ttt76psRS307FU9HHq_qXr2VXKzJRYA@mail.gmail.com>

You can get a basic Kindle device for somewhere in the neighbourhood
of $50. For basic reading, that's all you should need.

If you want something a little more, get an Android tablet an download
the Kindle App. That way you get a tablet and a reader.

B

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I know this is probably a tad off topic for this group but I'd like to ask
> about Kindle devices. I've been using Kindle PC, but frankly, it's
> cumbersome. I'm thinking about buying a dedicated device, just for the small
> size. Right now, I'm reading Kindle downloads from Amazon but I know there
> are other formats. Are there any devices that handle multiple formats? If
> not, I'll stick with a Kindle but cheap is good - I don't need a lot of
> fancy options. I just like to read in bed. J
>
>
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 17:36:08 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 18:36:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWGpo_+x4m4sP41ttt76psRS307FU9HHq_qXr2VXKzJRYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d1690c$b60e0070$222a0150$@gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWGpo_+x4m4sP41ttt76psRS307FU9HHq_qXr2VXKzJRYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d16912$d08c04a0$71a40de0$@gmail.com>

I've been thinking about a tablet to tell the truth. What's the best to be
bought for browsing and reading? 

Susan H. 

You can get a basic Kindle device for somewhere in the neighbourhood of $50.
For basic reading, that's all you should need.

If you want something a little more, get an Android tablet an download the
Kindle App. That way you get a tablet and a reader.

B



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 17:55:36 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:55:36 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
In-Reply-To: <000f01d16912$d08c04a0$71a40de0$@gmail.com>
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I like Android tablets. Trish likes iPads. You can't go wrong with a
Samsung Tab, except the price.

When I was at CBC I had an Acer Android tablet that I loved.

You can get the Kindle app for either Android or iPad, so it's a
matter of choice.

B

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been thinking about a tablet to tell the truth. What's the best to be
> bought for browsing and reading?
>
> Susan H.
>
> You can get a basic Kindle device for somewhere in the neighbourhood of $50.
> For basic reading, that's all you should need.
>
> If you want something a little more, get an Android tablet an download the
> Kindle App. That way you get a tablet and a reader.
>
> B
>
>
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-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 17:56:16 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:56:16 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
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Oh, and I was wrong. Basic Kindles start at around $80.

I guess the $50 I was thinking of was on sale before Christmas.

B

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like Android tablets. Trish likes iPads. You can't go wrong with a
> Samsung Tab, except the price.
>
> When I was at CBC I had an Acer Android tablet that I loved.
>
> You can get the Kindle app for either Android or iPad, so it's a
> matter of choice.
>
> B
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been thinking about a tablet to tell the truth. What's the best to be
>> bought for browsing and reading?
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> You can get a basic Kindle device for somewhere in the neighbourhood of $50.
>> For basic reading, that's all you should need.
>>
>> If you want something a little more, get an Android tablet an download the
>> Kindle App. That way you get a tablet and a reader.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
>
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
> well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"



-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 16 20:49:34 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:49:34 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
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References: <000001d1690c$b60e0070$222a0150$@gmail.com>
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On 2/16/2016 16:52, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I know this is probably a tad off topic for this group but I'd like to ask
> about Kindle devices. I've been using Kindle PC, but frankly, it's
> cumbersome. I'm thinking about buying a dedicated device, just for the small
> size. Right now, I'm reading Kindle downloads from Amazon but I know there
> are other formats. Are there any devices that handle multiple formats? If
> not, I'll stick with a Kindle but cheap is good - I don't need a lot of
> fancy options. I just like to read in bed. J

Any android tablet worth more than $100 running Android 5.0 or 5.1 will 
run Kindle, Kobo and all other ebook apps, there's no need to saddle 
yourself with Amazon hardware.

PB

-----

>
>   
>
> Susan H.
>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 16 20:51:42 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:51:42 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
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On 2/16/2016 17:36, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I've been thinking about a tablet to tell the truth. What's the best to be
> bought for browsing and reading?

7" Nexus 2013 is fast, pretty, cheap. Avoid Samssungs, loaded down with 
undeletable crapware.

PB

-----
>
> Susan H.
>
> You can get a basic Kindle device for somewhere in the neighbourhood of $50.
> For basic reading, that's all you should need.
>
> If you want something a little more, get an Android tablet an download the
> Kindle App. That way you get a tablet and a reader.
>
> B
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


From df.waters at outlook.com  Tue Feb 16 22:00:52 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:00:52 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
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A Nexus 7 has 216 PPI and it weighs 10.23 oz.

A Kindle Paperwhite has 300 PPI and it weighs just 7.2 oz.  

I was using a Nook HD+ for reading eBooks.  While the color screen was very
nice, the glare on the screen was tiring for my eyes.  And it was heavy at
18.15 oz.  I got a Kindle Voyage - it's nice.

You can sign up for a free/cheap eBook list at
https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/latest

Dan

-----Original Message-----
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Peter Brawley
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:52 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Kindle

On 2/16/2016 17:36, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I've been thinking about a tablet to tell the truth. What's the best 
> to be bought for browsing and reading?

7" Nexus 2013 is fast, pretty, cheap. Avoid Samssungs, loaded down with
undeletable crapware.

PB

-----
>
> Susan H.
>
> You can get a basic Kindle device for somewhere in the neighbourhood of
$50.
> For basic reading, that's all you should need.
>
> If you want something a little more, get an Android tablet an download 
> the Kindle App. That way you get a tablet and a reader.
>
> B
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Feb 16 23:12:41 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 08:12:41 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Kindle?=
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 Hi Susan --

I have a Kindle Fire 8 HD ( http://tinyurl.com/zep4so4 ): ?it's able to read Kindle books for you (as well as PDF) - the best option for "reading" in bed and to quickly fall asleep ?:)

-- Shamil

>Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:52 PM -05:00 from "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>:
>
>I know this is probably a tad off topic for this group but I'd like to ask
>about Kindle devices. I've been using Kindle PC, but frankly, it's
>cumbersome. I'm thinking about buying a dedicated device, just for the small
>size. Right now, I'm reading Kindle downloads from Amazon but I know there
>are other formats. Are there any devices that handle multiple formats? If
>not, I'll stick with a Kindle but cheap is good - I don't need a lot of
>fancy options. I just like to read in bed. J 
>
>?
>
>Susan H. 
>
>_______________________________________________
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Feb 16 23:54:22 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:54:22 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
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Studies have shown that backlit devices like tablets are not conducive to
proper sleep. While e-ink readers are much closer to traditional paper
books, even front lighted models.

https://gigaom.com/2014/12/23/do-e-readers-really-harm-sleep-depends-what-yo
u-call-an-e-reader/
Here we even see NPR and Fox News agreeing on something:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/12/23/372663892/book-news-for-a-
deeper-sleep-forgo-the-e-reader-before-bed

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/26/dont-let-your-e-reader-keep-up-at-nig
ht.html


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:52 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle

I know this is probably a tad off topic for this group but I'd like to ask
about Kindle devices. I've been using Kindle PC, but frankly, it's
cumbersome. I'm thinking about buying a dedicated device, just for the small
size. Right now, I'm reading Kindle downloads from Amazon but I know there
are other formats. Are there any devices that handle multiple formats? If
not, I'll stick with a Kindle but cheap is good - I don't need a lot of
fancy options. I just like to read in bed. J 

 

Susan H. 

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Feb 17 01:23:42 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:23:42 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Kindle?=
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 Have both - Kindle PaperWhite and Kindle Fire HD 8 - the latter helps to fall asleep much quicker. Tested. :)


>Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:54 PM -06:00 from "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>:
>
>Studies have shown that backlit devices like tablets are not conducive to
>proper sleep. While e-ink readers are much closer to traditional paper
>books, even front lighted models.
>
>https://gigaom.com/2014/12/23/do-e-readers-really-harm-sleep-depends-what-yo
>u-call-an-e-reader/
>Here we even see NPR and Fox News agreeing on something:
>
>http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/12/23/372663892/book-news-for-a-
>deeper-sleep-forgo-the-e-reader-before-bed
>
>http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/26/dont-let-your-e-reader-keep-up-at-nig
>ht.html
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>Susan Harkins
>Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:52 PM
>To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
>
>I know this is probably a tad off topic for this group but I'd like to ask
>about Kindle devices. I've been using Kindle PC, but frankly, it's
>cumbersome. I'm thinking about buying a dedicated device, just for the small
>size. Right now, I'm reading Kindle downloads from Amazon but I know there
>are other formats. Are there any devices that handle multiple formats? If
>not, I'll stick with a Kindle but cheap is good - I don't need a lot of
>fancy options. I just like to read in bed. J 
>
>?
>
>Susan H. 
>
>


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 08:38:10 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:38:10 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
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I'm on several lists. I haven't paid for a ebook in ages, unless I really
wanted it. :) 

A Kindle Paperwhite has 300 PPI and it weighs just 7.2 oz.  

Susan H. 


You can sign up for a free/cheap eBook list at
https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/latest

Dan



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 08:42:50 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:42:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
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	<1455693822.250143255@f346.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <00dc01d16991$7a2d0440$6e870cc0$@gmail.com>

Thanks everyone for all the info. I plan to compile a list and do some research -- it's all good stuff to know. I appreciate it!

Susan H. 

 Have both - Kindle PaperWhite and Kindle Fire HD 8 - the latter helps to fall asleep much quicker. Tested. :)





From df.waters at outlook.com  Wed Feb 17 11:01:03 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:01:03 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
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More Lists?  Can you send some info on them?

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:38 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Kindle

I'm on several lists. I haven't paid for a ebook in ages, unless I really
wanted it. :) 

A Kindle Paperwhite has 300 PPI and it weighs just 7.2 oz.  

Susan H. 


You can sign up for a free/cheap eBook list at
https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/latest

Dan


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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 11:28:50 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:28:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-DS829B415AA99A816158D17F6AE0@phx.gbl>
References: <000001d1690c$b60e0070$222a0150$@gmail.com>	<CAAZtbWGpo_+x4m4sP41ttt76psRS307FU9HHq_qXr2VXKzJRYA@mail.gmail.com>	<000f01d16912$d08c04a0$71a40de0$@gmail.com>	<56C3E03E.4040504@earthlink.net>	<BLU176-DS61B974BBF36C7B33D1CDCF6AE0@phx.gbl>	<008d01d16990$d39ca2c0$7ad5e840$@gmail.com>
	<BLU176-DS829B415AA99A816158D17F6AE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <007301d169a8$aad5b710$00812530$@gmail.com>

I'm sorry -- I should've thought to return the favor. Some of them are
better than others because they let you specify your interests. -- Susan H. 

info at bookbub.com
http://www.freebooksy.com/
http://www.ebooksavings.com/newsletter/
https://www.free-ebooks.net/register?show=A
ohfb.com

More Lists?  Can you send some info on them?

Thanks!
Dan



From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 17 11:54:31 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:54:31 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Kindle
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-DS61B974BBF36C7B33D1CDCF6AE0@phx.gbl>
References: <000001d1690c$b60e0070$222a0150$@gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWGpo_+x4m4sP41ttt76psRS307FU9HHq_qXr2VXKzJRYA@mail.gmail.com>
	<000f01d16912$d08c04a0$71a40de0$@gmail.com>
	<56C3E03E.4040504@earthlink.net>
	<BLU176-DS61B974BBF36C7B33D1CDCF6AE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <56C4B3D7.50501@earthlink.net>

On 2/16/2016 22:00, Dan Waters wrote:
> A Nexus 7 has 216 PPI

That's the Nexus 2012. The 7-inch Nexus 2013 is 1200 x 1920 pixels (~323 
ppi pixel density)

PB

-----
>   and it weighs 10.23 oz.
>
> A Kindle Paperwhite has 300 PPI and it weighs just 7.2 oz.
>
> I was using a Nook HD+ for reading eBooks.  While the color screen was very
> nice, the glare on the screen was tiring for my eyes.  And it was heavy at
> 18.15 oz.  I got a Kindle Voyage - it's nice.
>
> You can sign up for a free/cheap eBook list at
> https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/latest
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Brawley
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:52 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Kindle
>
> On 2/16/2016 17:36, Susan Harkins wrote:
>> I've been thinking about a tablet to tell the truth. What's the best
>> to be bought for browsing and reading?
> 7" Nexus 2013 is fast, pretty, cheap. Avoid Samssungs, loaded down with
> undeletable crapware.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>> Susan H.
>>
>> You can get a basic Kindle device for somewhere in the neighbourhood of
> $50.
>> For basic reading, that's all you should need.
>>
>> If you want something a little more, get an Android tablet an download
>> the Kindle App. That way you get a tablet and a reader.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 18 11:40:39 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:40:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Sense: Personalized Intelligence for your Connected Home
In-Reply-To: <1499639871.16300731.1455571763772.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <836771747.19038473.1455817239572.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

The team at Mozella has put together a kickstarter project the can manage the "internet of things" in your house, without (and this is the big thing) having to ever go to the web. Everything that can be controlled in your house and it is fully encrypted so no external hackers. For modifying and updating it uses, as you would expect, JavaScript.

It might be considered a little ahead of the curve but as virtually all your new electronics, like heating thermostat, lighting, stove, refrigerator, microwave, dishwasher, televisions, cameras, door locks etc etc, will be "smart" (with built in Linux) it might be a good time to invest and have a centralized secure home network. 

View the site: http://kck.st/1RRe3UM

View the video ad: http://bit.ly/1XA3J3Y

Note: To say this new offering is popular is an understatement. The funding goal was met in less than two days (from a few 100 to over a 100K) and there is still, as of today, over 25 days left. 

Jim     

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Feb 18 15:20:15 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:20:15 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>

My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are
modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his
mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able to
distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do in a
spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do this already
available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).

Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?

-- 
Arthur

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 18 16:22:26 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:22:26 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56C64422.3090702@earthlink.net>

On 2/18/2016 15:20, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are
> modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his
> mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able to
> distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do in a
> spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do this already
> available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).
>
> Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?

Android MileIQ gets good reviews, haven't used it though.

Avoid Samsungs, they're loaded with crapware.

PB


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Feb 19 12:31:13 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:31:13 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
In-Reply-To: <56C64422.3090702@earthlink.net>
References: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
	<56C64422.3090702@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gbW0e33U511T2v7jD5+2u7PCZ6mK=YjM7Rox-irHoNwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. I'll look into the MileIQ app.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Peter Brawley <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> On 2/18/2016 15:20, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>> My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are
>> modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his
>> mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able to
>> distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do in a
>> spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do this
>> already
>> available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).
>>
>> Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?
>>
>
> Android MileIQ gets good reviews, haven't used it though.
>
> Avoid Samsungs, they're loaded with crapware.
>
> PB
>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Feb 19 13:05:34 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:05:34 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Tablet_app_to_track_mileage?=
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1455908734.514876501@f194.i.mail.ru>

 Arthur --

A portable GPS tracker could be good enough, inexpensive and "light" solution to satisfy your brother request on his private and business travelling tracking.
But I do not have any special recommendations - I have only seen a few local market proposals, which are used to all kinds of applications and they usually have free(?) ?smartphone and desktop apps as well as web apps with tracking info. Although such web sites might have special membership fees.

Have a look at portable GPS tracker gadgets as the following? http://tinyurl.com/j9qvlbw
Here is a software, which can be used with this (and other) trackers? ?http://mobileangelworld.com/ (iPhone only currently but they say Android version will be soon available)

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Thursday, February 18, 2016 4:20 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>
>My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are
>modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his
>mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able to
>distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do in a
>spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do this already
>available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).
>
>Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?
>
>-- 
>Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb 25 03:52:17 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:52:17 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] HP Elite x3
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15845D41174FD8FD8DF4B961CAA60@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

This is an interesting evolvement:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCJ9pYuxDNc

A mini-tablet? A mega-phone?

/gustav



From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Feb 25 07:06:14 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:06:14 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?HP_Elite_x3?=
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15845D41174FD8FD8DF4B961CAA60@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15845D41174FD8FD8DF4B961CAA60@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1456405574.698998795@f191.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

It seems to be very similar to MS Lumia 950 XL -?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTflEs33VWQ

Watch also:? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FnQ2kZIl9U ?

-- Shamil

>Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:52 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi all
>
>This is an interesting evolvement:
>
>???? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCJ9pYuxDNc
>
>A mini-tablet? A mega-phone?
>
>/gustav
>
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Feb 25 07:16:09 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:16:09 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] HP Elite x3
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584592FDB66DD44858F437ECAA60@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

Indeed. But Lumia has wireless charging - so convenient.

Thanks for the programming link.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
Sendt: 25. februar 2016 14:06
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] HP Elite x3

 Hi Gustav --

It seems to be very similar to MS Lumia 950 XL -?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTflEs33VWQ

Watch also:? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FnQ2kZIl9U ?

-- Shamil

>Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:52 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi all
>
>This is an interesting evolvement:
>
>???? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCJ9pYuxDNc
>
>A mini-tablet? A mega-phone?
>
>/gustav 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Feb 25 10:49:18 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 11:49:18 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] HP Elite x3
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584592FDB66DD44858F437ECAA60@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1584592FDB66DD44858F437ECAA60@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jbeypchS3my2yUbaZoJ9oXtfcTif-jgz5JEpoN6sWUKw@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav and Shamil,

You missed the most important feature. It's driver-less! So you don't have
to phone home with lame excuses why you're working late. "They moved the
goalposts" etc. It's all built-in.

/Arthur
?

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 26 17:17:03 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 16:17:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The new Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <836771747.19038473.1455817239572.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1844627504.26050620.1456528623986.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

On the 21st of April and new version of Ubuntu will be released, 16.4.

It is supposed to be one of the best desktops ever released. The beta is already available for early download:

http://bit.ly/1S6QUOf

This new version is one of the very fastest, as it uses the hardware directly. It also has a totally new layout: (http://bit.ly/1oEWJGI and http://bit.ly/1QlH6v1)...that is similar to the new flat Windows designs or in Ubuntu's case, it is called the Charmander design concept. The new graphics core uses a product called Valkan. "...Vulkan is a portable low-level graphics API that is built to work across many GPU vendors and operating systems, which means that in theory it should become much more efficient than the existing OpenGL or DirectX solutions....". Its kernel has been fully upgraded to support ZFS without any addition effort or third tier products. A full ZFS management system is built in. Properly deployed, across a network, data lose, due to hardware failure may very well become a thing of the past.

http://bit.ly/1KQLRQx

Aside: Ubuntu adoption has been growing rapidly and it now accounts for roughly 50 percent of the entire internet...and that is not counting the many other flavours of Linux. On Azure, last year the percentage of Linux installations was around 40 to 50 percent, this year Ubuntu and Redhat make up 60 percent of all systems supported and next year what will the percentage be? I am sure that having the option of being easy to select ZFS, as one of the file systems, will be a big selling feature. As said by one of the Microsoft pundits; "Welcome to the new hybrid world"...where the differences between Microsoft Windows and Linux functionality and products will become almost indistinguishable.
 
Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Feb 26 17:22:40 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 16:22:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The world's fastest Linux
In-Reply-To: <836771747.19038473.1455817239572.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1313309307.26055299.1456528960615.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Intel has been working for over ten years to build a high-performance Linux, which utilizes all a system's hardware. According to the latest stats Clear Linux is the fastest Linux. It is less of a desktop and more of a server, similar to CoreOS, which supports Containers and application distribution.

It is very lean. No one is ever going to say its good looking other from a Minimalist perspective but its design is very clean and its performance is stellar.

https://clearlinux.org/

Aside: I wonder when Microsoft is going to officially release its version of Linux? It is supposed to look like Windows 10 but with a Debian/Ubuntu core.

Jim  

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Feb 28 17:24:56 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 16:24:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] HP Elite x3
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15845D41174FD8FD8DF4B961CAA60@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1888658036.27222227.1456701896000.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

That is a great ad. 

The new transition, though, is less about the OS and more about the smartphone hardware. 8 cores, 8 to 16GB of ram etc etc. These are not just phones but heavy duty pieces of hardware. I predict this is the next big computer transformation.

Companies are now virtually giving away their Smartware development software. Just saw this ad, this morning: http://bit.ly/1OGj63J. I am sure you would have other examples.

Aside: Here is a link to a similar OS, that can be installed on the latest Nexus smartphone: http://maruos.com/#/. The application turns out to have been written by a single person...what an incredible task. He was initial planning to market and sell his new product, but after a spot on a computer podcast program, he received hundreds of offers to help coding and offers of money. He has now decided to go open source: http://bit.ly/1Xo7fhD   

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:52:17 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] HP Elite x3

Hi all

This is an interesting evolvement:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCJ9pYuxDNc

A mini-tablet? A mega-phone?

/gustav


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Feb 29 10:41:37 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:41:37 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] VoIP PBX of 2016
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584024D95DA737E60CB02E6CABA0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

Our old Trixbox PBX (based on Asterisk) installed a decade ago needed a replacement. The HP server ran fine but with a severely outdated Linux install, and the phones were also much of yesterday. It took a lot of trouble setting it up, I recall. My fear was if it should break down, because I wouldn't know what to do with the Linux stuff, and the techie who configured the Trixbox and the old SPA942 phones is far away.

So I turned to 3CX:

    http://www.3cx.com/

who offers a free version limited to two outbound calls, which is fine for our small shop where most traffic runs on mobile phones anyway.
Prepared with two test trunks at different providers, it took me one day to set up a virtual 2012 R2 server on our main 2012 R2 server and arrange for localized provisioning of the Cisco SPA512G phones with a simple group for inbound calls. Very basic, but fully functioning, and all tests were green.

The next day I could switch from the test trunk to our main trunk holding our public phone number.

Now I can pull one more physical server off service, and I have no more Linux or NetWare running. Not that they have not been stable, they have indeed, but I don't know how to manage them, and it wouldn't pay off for me to spend the time learning.

3CX is an amazing piece of software. It can run a huge corporate PBX system with all sorts of bells and whistles, yet it is very easy to handle for a very modest install like ours.

/gustav