From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar  1 13:34:27 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 12:34:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] List
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584024D95DA737E60CB02E6CABA0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1753120011.28715624.1456860867303.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

I have been working on a cross network communications project for the last couple of weeks and learned more about products, protocols and related standards than I ever wanted to know. If you are very knowledgeable about the protocols SSH/SSL you can jump the following paragraph.

Preamble: SSL and SSH are very similar protocols, in fact they are almost the same, with code and functionality. I have discovered that these two protocols are virtually in all modern secure communications...it is just that their presents has been abstracted away. SSL goes a little beyond SSH in that it will open a secure (fully encrypted) Ethernet tunnel between computers, computers of any type and OS. This allows an extended network that could be anywhere in the world and bridge clients to servers and clients to clients...connection methods are limited only by your imagination and knowledge of these protocols. Most of our remote take-over programs use SSL at their core. Like LogMeIn, Teamviewer, X2Go and a host of other similar applications. Companies like Google, Oracle, IBM, Microsoft and many B2B type application like VoiceIP, Microsoft update services, secure IRC apps and a host of remote management systems...

I have been trying to get OpenVPN running from various sites to some sites and ran into so many conflicts. (OpenVPN uses SSL of course.) Aside subject from the above topic, is the addresses and ports used to manage these various applications. For all of those who have played around with addresses and ports, here is the latest list:

http://bit.ly/1L2GEW1

All businesses that have been in business for a while tend to have their own preferences and have configured their applications to use one port or the another with little concern for the industry standards. This has been reflected in their routers, smart switches, spam filters, bridges and firewalls so when trying to install a new application, on a site, using a product like OpenVPN, it can become a nightmare of reconfiguring. The application may be connected for hours at a time, managing, monitoring, and transferring data between remote sites. 

Note that the first 40,000 ports can be a mine-field of conflicts and potential conflicts and I wished I had known about the latest version of the above list. If anyone here remembers the 16 IRQ choices on the old PCs (pre-2000), they will understand the problem with port usage. I have been able to "blue-screen" any Windows 7 computer with impunity...apparently application port conflict can be fatal to certain desktop PCs. That said ,I have not tested all Windows products so this issue may be that of only related to one Windows version but my Windows 10 has been giving a very good imitation of instability but it is not consistent and I may have inadvertently introduced other unrelated issues. As I am no longer working for a company the has Microsoft phone support, it is difficult to discover causes and solutions. The last time I did use Microsoft support, it took about two weeks to resolve a problem. Their tech staff earned every penny of the $365 charge. ;-)

Jim
 


From jwcolby at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 16:48:41 2016
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 17:48:41 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] List
In-Reply-To: <1753120011.28715624.1456860867303.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
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	<1753120011.28715624.1456860867303.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAA_iUE9M3=fZe=wVU=uKMAZhe08CRfThrJ-5AQ2Z7MsszGimww@mail.gmail.com>

Yes I too have been trying to replace logmein with free and  better.
On Mar 1, 2016 14:35, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I have been working on a cross network communications project for the last
> couple of weeks and learned more about products, protocols and related
> standards than I ever wanted to know. If you are very knowledgeable about
> the protocols SSH/SSL you can jump the following paragraph.
>
> Preamble: SSL and SSH are very similar protocols, in fact they are almost
> the same, with code and functionality. I have discovered that these two
> protocols are virtually in all modern secure communications...it is just
> that their presents has been abstracted away. SSL goes a little beyond SSH
> in that it will open a secure (fully encrypted) Ethernet tunnel between
> computers, computers of any type and OS. This allows an extended network
> that could be anywhere in the world and bridge clients to servers and
> clients to clients...connection methods are limited only by your
> imagination and knowledge of these protocols. Most of our remote take-over
> programs use SSL at their core. Like LogMeIn, Teamviewer, X2Go and a host
> of other similar applications. Companies like Google, Oracle, IBM,
> Microsoft and many B2B type application like VoiceIP, Microsoft update
> services, secure IRC apps and a host of remote management systems...
>
> I have been trying to get OpenVPN running from various sites to some sites
> and ran into so many conflicts. (OpenVPN uses SSL of course.) Aside subject
> from the above topic, is the addresses and ports used to manage these
> various applications. For all of those who have played around with
> addresses and ports, here is the latest list:
>
> http://bit.ly/1L2GEW1
>
> All businesses that have been in business for a while tend to have their
> own preferences and have configured their applications to use one port or
> the another with little concern for the industry standards. This has been
> reflected in their routers, smart switches, spam filters, bridges and
> firewalls so when trying to install a new application, on a site, using a
> product like OpenVPN, it can become a nightmare of reconfiguring. The
> application may be connected for hours at a time, managing, monitoring, and
> transferring data between remote sites.
>
> Note that the first 40,000 ports can be a mine-field of conflicts and
> potential conflicts and I wished I had known about the latest version of
> the above list. If anyone here remembers the 16 IRQ choices on the old PCs
> (pre-2000), they will understand the problem with port usage. I have been
> able to "blue-screen" any Windows 7 computer with impunity...apparently
> application port conflict can be fatal to certain desktop PCs. That said ,I
> have not tested all Windows products so this issue may be that of only
> related to one Windows version but my Windows 10 has been giving a very
> good imitation of instability but it is not consistent and I may have
> inadvertently introduced other unrelated issues. As I am no longer working
> for a company the has Microsoft phone support, it is difficult to discover
> causes and solutions. The last time I did use Microsoft support, it took
> about two weeks to resolve a problem. Their tech staff earned every penny
> of the $365 charge. ;-)
>
> Jim
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar  1 18:16:17 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 17:16:17 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] List
In-Reply-To: <CAA_iUE9M3=fZe=wVU=uKMAZhe08CRfThrJ-5AQ2Z7MsszGimww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <537287176.28969468.1456877777684.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

I really think that OpenVPN is the best solution. 

It does take a little more work than an abstracted package like LogMeIn/Hamachi but the truth is that their cores are exactly the same...SSL protocol. Note that running the LogMeIn suite and OpenVPN on the same box may cause conflicts (blue screens)...for obvious reasons. When setup properly the remote station will appear as just another computer on the network list. You can just assign your end of the private network to any available IP address on your server/client end and then that pipe is bridged to another non-conflicting IP address on the remote network/station. The performance is limited only by the available bandwidth. These connections can be automated through the station bootup cycle and then the system can retry to acquire a connection, at assigned intervals, indefinitely.

One interesting thing is that you can set up, is any level of encryption. A friend tried AES 4096 with ECC but it took a good ten minutes to generate the key...astronomic over-kill but it is good to know that no one for ten thousands years will be able to crack it. ;-) AES 256 and 1024 generate keys almost instantaneously and are not crackable by our current technology.

Some techs have limited performance issues by renting a Cloud droplet (for as little as $5.00 per month) and then run their remote operations through a tier1 pipe. On DigitalOcean there is no extra costs for data transferred through a private network! How that works I don't know but I hope to be able to do some serious testing in a month or so. 

Of course this application is hardly a product that you would expect a home user to master as it is a little more industrial strength, than the likes of LogMeIn but it is infinitely flexible and with its co-partner SSH, has been around in various forms even before the internet existed...and is still under active development. 

...And you don't have to pay extra to stream a movie or music across the internet and you are not paying $30 per person per network. :-)
  
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Colby" <jwcolby at gmail.com>
To: "DBA Tech" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 2:48:41 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] List

Yes I too have been trying to replace logmein with free and  better.
On Mar 1, 2016 14:35, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I have been working on a cross network communications project for the last
> couple of weeks and learned more about products, protocols and related
> standards than I ever wanted to know. If you are very knowledgeable about
> the protocols SSH/SSL you can jump the following paragraph.
>
> Preamble: SSL and SSH are very similar protocols, in fact they are almost
> the same, with code and functionality. I have discovered that these two
> protocols are virtually in all modern secure communications...it is just
> that their presents has been abstracted away. SSL goes a little beyond SSH
> in that it will open a secure (fully encrypted) Ethernet tunnel between
> computers, computers of any type and OS. This allows an extended network
> that could be anywhere in the world and bridge clients to servers and
> clients to clients...connection methods are limited only by your
> imagination and knowledge of these protocols. Most of our remote take-over
> programs use SSL at their core. Like LogMeIn, Teamviewer, X2Go and a host
> of other similar applications. Companies like Google, Oracle, IBM,
> Microsoft and many B2B type application like VoiceIP, Microsoft update
> services, secure IRC apps and a host of remote management systems...
>
> I have been trying to get OpenVPN running from various sites to some sites
> and ran into so many conflicts. (OpenVPN uses SSL of course.) Aside subject
> from the above topic, is the addresses and ports used to manage these
> various applications. For all of those who have played around with
> addresses and ports, here is the latest list:
>
> http://bit.ly/1L2GEW1
>
> All businesses that have been in business for a while tend to have their
> own preferences and have configured their applications to use one port or
> the another with little concern for the industry standards. This has been
> reflected in their routers, smart switches, spam filters, bridges and
> firewalls so when trying to install a new application, on a site, using a
> product like OpenVPN, it can become a nightmare of reconfiguring. The
> application may be connected for hours at a time, managing, monitoring, and
> transferring data between remote sites.
>
> Note that the first 40,000 ports can be a mine-field of conflicts and
> potential conflicts and I wished I had known about the latest version of
> the above list. If anyone here remembers the 16 IRQ choices on the old PCs
> (pre-2000), they will understand the problem with port usage. I have been
> able to "blue-screen" any Windows 7 computer with impunity...apparently
> application port conflict can be fatal to certain desktop PCs. That said ,I
> have not tested all Windows products so this issue may be that of only
> related to one Windows version but my Windows 10 has been giving a very
> good imitation of instability but it is not consistent and I may have
> inadvertently introduced other unrelated issues. As I am no longer working
> for a company the has Microsoft phone support, it is difficult to discover
> causes and solutions. The last time I did use Microsoft support, it took
> about two weeks to resolve a problem. Their tech staff earned every penny
> of the $365 charge. ;-)
>
> Jim
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
_______________________________________________
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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 22:10:08 2016
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 23:10:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] List
In-Reply-To: <537287176.28969468.1456877777684.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <537287176.28969468.1456877777684.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <56D667A0.2060801@Gmail.com>

So from my side, OpenVPN requires that I get into Linux when everything 
else I do is in Windows.  A non-starter as an absolute requirement.  
Second, the $10 / year / client.  One might as well just go with LogMeIn 
(in terms of price).

Now if the server side would run on Windows Server, AND it absolutely 
just worked without the oddball "relay" crap from Hamachi...

But its server doesn't run on Windows so I continue my search.

I am using Wippien at the moment, which mostly works.  And yet one 
specific client can see but not connect to another specific client.

Sigh.

On 3/1/2016 7:16 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi John:
>
> I really think that OpenVPN is the best solution.
>
> It does take a little more work than an abstracted package like LogMeIn/Hamachi but the truth is that their cores are exactly the same...SSL protocol. Note that running the LogMeIn suite and OpenVPN on the same box may cause conflicts (blue screens)...for obvious reasons. When setup properly the remote station will appear as just another computer on the network list. You can just assign your end of the private network to any available IP address on your server/client end and then that pipe is bridged to another non-conflicting IP address on the remote network/station. The performance is limited only by the available bandwidth. These connections can be automated through the station bootup cycle and then the system can retry to acquire a connection, at assigned intervals, indefinitely.
>
> One interesting thing is that you can set up, is any level of encryption. A friend tried AES 4096 with ECC but it took a good ten minutes to generate the key...astronomic over-kill but it is good to know that no one for ten thousands years will be able to crack it. ;-) AES 256 and 1024 generate keys almost instantaneously and are not crackable by our current technology.
>
> Some techs have limited performance issues by renting a Cloud droplet (for as little as $5.00 per month) and then run their remote operations through a tier1 pipe. On DigitalOcean there is no extra costs for data transferred through a private network! How that works I don't know but I hope to be able to do some serious testing in a month or so.
>
> Of course this application is hardly a product that you would expect a home user to master as it is a little more industrial strength, than the likes of LogMeIn but it is infinitely flexible and with its co-partner SSH, has been around in various forms even before the internet existed...and is still under active development.
>
> ...And you don't have to pay extra to stream a movie or music across the internet and you are not paying $30 per person per network. :-)
>    
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Colby" <jwcolby at gmail.com>
> To: "DBA Tech" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 2:48:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] List
>
> Yes I too have been trying to replace logmein with free and  better.
> On Mar 1, 2016 14:35, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>

-- 
John W. Colby


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar  2 11:35:18 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:35:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Is that old floppy drive dead?
In-Reply-To: <537287176.28969468.1456877777684.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1963761221.29485818.1456940118446.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

If you have wondered if you should just toss that old 3.5 floppy drive and maybe get a new motherboard that supports more than 2 GB of RAM here is a hack that says, no:

http://bit.ly/1pnSnVa

Jim

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Mar  2 14:29:44 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 23:29:44 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?A_new_MongoDB?=
In-Reply-To: <252336084.25861729.1397612897885.JavaMail.root@cds018>
References: <829816599.25672500.1397595647571.JavaMail.root@cds018>
	<252336084.25861729.1397612897885.JavaMail.root@cds018>
Message-ID: <1456950584.727767655@f343.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim --

While doing some R&D with the current version 3.2.3 of MongoDB on MS Windows 10 ?I have found your two years old posting here.

MongoDB is really a great documents/NoSQL database management system. 
And it has an advanced and flexible C# driver/library out-of-the box. ?
I like a lot.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:48 AM +03:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Of all the post relational databases, MongoDB is perhaps the best option for a new developers.
>
>It has some major ingredient which should make it at least the first choice. One, is is very mature at seven years, two, its development is well funded, three, many of the major companies have adopted the DB, four, there is excellent documentation and training available on the product, five Mongo has connectors to virtually all major products (nodejs, MarisDB, Postgres, Oracle and it may even have MS SQL connections) and finally, there is a 24 hour help desk (mind you help it will cost you $250 per hour but for a larger company that is hardly a deterrent). 
>
>One of the major issues with the migration from relational databases to MapReduce databases is that the adopters have little understanding of the concepts, have not adequately researched their data needs, do not have the onsite expertise and the staff have not even availed themselves of the appropriate training or research. 
>
>That all said, MongoDB has just released it new state-of-the-art engine with a pile of new features:
>
>http://blog.mongodb.org/post/82092813806/mongodb-2-6-our-biggest-release-ever
>
>Jim 
>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar  3 11:47:23 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 10:47:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] New long term storage technology
In-Reply-To: <56D667A0.2060801@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1418310037.30359127.1457027243850.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

There is now a new long term storage technology that can store immense qualities of data, in a very small and stable format:

http://bit.ly/1LBR3aY

I wonder how long before this tech becomes common place?

Jim  

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar  3 11:49:39 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 10:49:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Google glass version two
In-Reply-To: <56D667A0.2060801@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1601414634.30361273.1457027379382.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

We may have thought the Google glass was dead after they had disappointing sales and announced they were cancelling the project but apparently the cancellation notice was a little premature: 

http://bit.ly/1LBSN4d

Jim

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Mar  3 18:27:25 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 03:27:25 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?New_long_term_storage_technology?=
In-Reply-To: <1418310037.30359127.1457027243850.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <56D667A0.2060801@Gmail.com>
	<1418310037.30359127.1457027243850.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1457051245.736746430@f221.i.mail.ru>

 Yes, and 10 million times faster computers are not that far away from today

http://tinyurl.com/zpsbngk ?

?


>Thursday, March  3, 2016 8:47 PM +03:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>There is now a new long term storage technology that can store immense qualities of data, in a very small and stable format:
>
>http://bit.ly/1LBR3aY
>
>I wonder how long before this tech becomes common place?
>
>Jim 
>_______________________________________________
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Mar  4 01:44:15 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 07:44:15 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] New long term storage technology
In-Reply-To: <1457051245.736746430@f221.i.mail.ru>
References: <56D667A0.2060801@Gmail.com>
	<1418310037.30359127.1457027243850.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<1457051245.736746430@f221.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584E7DD65610D782E543E91CABE0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

But network speed to read/write those amounts of data?

/gustav
________________________________
Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: ?04-?03-?2016 01:27
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] New long term storage technology

Yes, and 10 million times faster computers are not that far away from today

http://tinyurl.com/zpsbngk

?


>Thursday, March  3, 2016 8:47 PM +03:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>There is now a new long term storage technology that can store immense qualities of data, in a very small and stable format:
>
>http://bit.ly/1LBR3aY
>
>I wonder how long before this tech becomes common place?
>
>Jim
>_______________________________________________
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>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Mar  4 02:41:07 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 11:41:07 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?New_long_term_storage_technology?=
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584E7DD65610D782E543E91CABE0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <56D667A0.2060801@Gmail.com> <1457051245.736746430@f221.i.mail.ru>
	<VI1PR06MB1584E7DD65610D782E543E91CABE0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1457080867.252670642@f31.i.mail.ru>

 Gustav --

I have just noticed this news source - Sputnik - has Russian financial roots (Jim also referred it) - it could be wrong with physics, I should have noticed that :)

Let's try to calculate - they inform the new computers will use/control photons, IOW light - would that let to increase the speed (frequency) of computers we have now 10 million times? - if they will use UV lasers then it seems to be possible? We can assume that nowadays computers have 1-4 GHz (10^9 Hz) frequency and UV-Lasers have 10^16 Hz frequency.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

P.S. And as you know there are X-Rays and Gamma-Rays with even higher frequency -? http://tinyurl.com/orb8f48 ?...


>Friday, March  4, 2016 10:44 AM +03:00 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>But network speed to read/write those amounts of data?
>
>/gustav
>________________________________
>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: ?04-?03-?2016 01:27
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] New long term storage technology
>
>Yes, and 10 million times faster computers are not that far away from today
>
>http://tinyurl.com/zpsbngk
>
>?
>
>
>>Thursday, March  3, 2016 8:47 PM +03:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>
>>There is now a new long term storage technology that can store immense qualities of data, in a very small and stable format:
>>
>> http://bit.ly/1LBR3aY
>>
>>I wonder how long before this tech becomes common place?
>>
>>Jim

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Mar  4 02:45:54 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 11:45:54 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?b?VGVjaENydW5jaDogSXTigJlzIHRoZSBlbmQgb2Yg4oCc?=
 =?utf-8?q?euphoric_times=E2=80=9D_for_custom_app_developers?=
Message-ID: <1457081154.637854468@f31.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

What do you suppose - the subject is a bad news for custom app devs?or just a new (set of) exciting opportunities?

http://tinyurl.com/jemyeat

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Mar  4 08:35:25 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 09:35:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] ProjectLibre
Message-ID: <001201d17623$179ccce0$46d666a0$@gmail.com>

Does anyone use ProjectLibre. I'm familiar enough but don't actually use it.
A reader needs to report on people across projects and I suggested running a
resource management report across projects - people should be included in
that, but I'm not sure. 

 

If you use it, can you tell me how to report on a person and all the
projects they're assigned to? I did research just a bit but didn't find
anything. 

 

Susan H. 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Mar  5 10:30:46 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 11:30:46 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Samsung's 15.38TB SSD
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jDwm4Lr2OMDHGgP0D=b91+0NdgHx-JHeKOuap8T7L1pg@mail.gmail.com>

Wow. Faster than diarrhea and a tad more expansive. These numbers keep
getting more ridiculous. My first computer, an Apple II clone called a
Unitron, shipped with 64K of RAM and two 126K floppies. Times have changed.

Here
<http://www.computerworld.com/article/3040208/data-storage/samsung-ships-the-worlds-highest-capacity-ssd-with-15tb-of-storage.html?nsdr=true>
is
the link.

-- 
Arthur

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Sun Mar  6 00:36:32 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 09:36:32 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?That=27s_where_NoSQL_Comes_in=2E=2E=2E?=
Message-ID: <1457246192.856732142@f335.i.mail.ru>


http://tinyurl.com/hbbsfk7

-- 
???????????? ??????

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Mar  6 11:37:00 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 12:37:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jh9jjoNQ0upvNb32A2fxNk+MJsVKtFLOZS+r6gfEsybQ@mail.gmail.com>

For those with too much time on their hands... here
<https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-windows-10-raspberry-pi/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05032016>
is
a new project.

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Mar  6 11:51:41 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 09:51:41 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jh9jjoNQ0upvNb32A2fxNk+MJsVKtFLOZS+r6gfEsybQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jh9jjoNQ0upvNb32A2fxNk+MJsVKtFLOZS+r6gfEsybQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <959BE8B076644CFDA43CDCDCF98DE1D3@HAL9007>

I'm getting nagged by Microsoft to upgrade to W10. (If I do I might have to
wait until we move to the new house as our temporary rental has DSL @
1.5Mbps). 

My comp is running W7 - very stable, and I'm always reluctant to upset that.
Current comp is i7 processor, 8GB RAM, and 250GB SSD.  So plenty of
horsepower.

I know there were threads about this recently but I don't pay attention. (My
bad.) But IIRC, there were some good results and some teeth gnashing.

At the risk of inviting reiterations of repetitively redundant
comments...any recommendations on taking the leap to W10?  When does the
Microsoft largesse on this free upgrade expire?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-771-1869
www.bchacc.com
www.e-z-mrp.com
Skype: rocky.smolin
 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi

For those with too much time on their hands... here
<https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-windows-10-raspberry-pi/?utm_source=
newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05032016>
is
a new project.

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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Sun Mar  6 16:07:47 2016
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 17:07:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <959BE8B076644CFDA43CDCDCF98DE1D3@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1jh9jjoNQ0upvNb32A2fxNk+MJsVKtFLOZS+r6gfEsybQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<959BE8B076644CFDA43CDCDCF98DE1D3@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <56DCAA33.7070803@Gmail.com>

I upgraded my All-in-one from Windows 8 to Windows 10, and then 
installed Classic Start Menu.  Happy as a clam.  And I hated Windows 8 
(without Classic Start).

On 3/6/2016 12:51 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I'm getting nagged by Microsoft to upgrade to W10. (If I do I might have to
> wait until we move to the new house as our temporary rental has DSL @
> 1.5Mbps).
>
> My comp is running W7 - very stable, and I'm always reluctant to upset that.
> Current comp is i7 processor, 8GB RAM, and 250GB SSD.  So plenty of
> horsepower.
>
> I know there were threads about this recently but I don't pay attention. (My
> bad.) But IIRC, there were some good results and some teeth gnashing.
>
> At the risk of inviting reiterations of repetitively redundant
> comments...any recommendations on taking the leap to W10?  When does the
> Microsoft largesse on this free upgrade expire?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-771-1869
> www.bchacc.com
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>   
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:37 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi
>
> For those with too much time on their hands... here
> <https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-windows-10-raspberry-pi/?utm_source=
> newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05032016>
> is
> a new project.
>
> --
> Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Mar  6 17:09:35 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 15:09:35 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <56DCAA33.7070803@Gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jh9jjoNQ0upvNb32A2fxNk+MJsVKtFLOZS+r6gfEsybQ@mail.gmail.com><959BE8B076644CFDA43CDCDCF98DE1D3@HAL9007>
	<56DCAA33.7070803@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6D79A37ED5D0447B8813110DAFCD8E4D@HAL9007>

I classic started my laptop when I got W8.  Makes it tolerable.

Good to know W10 is a smooth transition.

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John Colby
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 2:08 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi

I upgraded my All-in-one from Windows 8 to Windows 10, and then installed
Classic Start Menu.  Happy as a clam.  And I hated Windows 8 (without
Classic Start).

On 3/6/2016 12:51 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I'm getting nagged by Microsoft to upgrade to W10. (If I do I might 
> have to wait until we move to the new house as our temporary rental 
> has DSL @ 1.5Mbps).
>
> My comp is running W7 - very stable, and I'm always reluctant to upset
that.
> Current comp is i7 processor, 8GB RAM, and 250GB SSD.  So plenty of 
> horsepower.
>
> I know there were threads about this recently but I don't pay 
> attention. (My
> bad.) But IIRC, there were some good results and some teeth gnashing.
>
> At the risk of inviting reiterations of repetitively redundant 
> comments...any recommendations on taking the leap to W10?  When does 
> the Microsoft largesse on this free upgrade expire?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-771-1869
> www.bchacc.com
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>   
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:37 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi
>
> For those with too much time on their hands... here 
> <https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-windows-10-raspberry-pi/?utm_s
> ource= newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05032016>
> is
> a new project.
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Mon Mar  7 08:18:02 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:18:02 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>

I know, going into this message, that I will have to duck and run - so -
I use a notebook (paper and pencil), and record my mileage manually.  
Only at the end of the year do I calculate the business and personal 
percentages.  Over the years I've been doing the tracking, it's been 
pretty consistent - about 60-65% of all my miles are business.
Now, I'm ducking and running!  :-)
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 02/18/16 4:20 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are
> modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his
> mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able to
> distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do in a
> spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do this already
> available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).
>
> Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?
>


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Mar  7 08:39:45 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:39:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
In-Reply-To: <56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
	<56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <003501d1787f$3220dfd0$96629f70$@gmail.com>

My husband takes several medications several times a day. Several times I've
offered to help him organize it all but he prefers a little pocket notebook
diary. There's just something about writing it down that fires something in
his brain. It works for him. 

At work, we discussed the possibility of creating a few apps that would help
them compile and organize data in the field. In the end, they all declined
saying they preferred their clipboards. 

Susan H. 

I know, going into this message, that I will have to duck and run - so - I
use a notebook (paper and pencil), and record my mileage manually.  
Only at the end of the year do I calculate the business and personal
percentages.  Over the years I've been doing the tracking, it's been pretty
consistent - about 60-65% of all my miles are business.
Now, I'm ducking and running!  :-)
TNF



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar  7 09:09:46 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:09:46 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
In-Reply-To: <56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
	<56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <96222545D1BE49A08D00217E7CD9575C@HAL9007>

I still keep the corporate book on a thirteen column green sheet.  In
pencil.  Extremely effective system.  :)

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Tina Norris Fields
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:18 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage

I know, going into this message, that I will have to duck and run - so - I
use a notebook (paper and pencil), and record my mileage manually.  
Only at the end of the year do I calculate the business and personal
percentages.  Over the years I've been doing the tracking, it's been pretty
consistent - about 60-65% of all my miles are business.
Now, I'm ducking and running!  :-)
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 02/18/16 4:20 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are 
> modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his 
> mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able 
> to distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do 
> in a spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do 
> this already available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).
>
> Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?
>

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Mar  7 11:53:44 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:53:44 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] If you haven't heard yet - Email inventor Ray Tomlinson
	dies at 74
Message-ID: <040601d1789a$4b13caa0$e13b5fe0$@winhaven.net>

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/email-inventor-ray-tomlinson-dies-at-74/

 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar  7 13:15:08 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:15:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Upgrade your web sites' DNS
In-Reply-To: <56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <1090234850.33439067.1457378108749.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

This site has been around for a few months but it is fairly new to me. 

When going through regular Domain setup, at a traditional web hosting company like Dotster or GoDaddy, the Name Service default can be fairly simple.... But if a more complex solution is needed like multiple fail-over IP addresses and/or website locations, the price for this additional service adds to the cost. OTOH, there are a number of third party Name Service providers that allow management of multiple point of failure, unlimited subnets and a host of other flexible options: example ZoneEdit. Their costs are either free or inexpensive especially for limited through-put demand and/or for a community and non-profit web site.

The one thing these Name Service providers do not help with is improving bandwidth, migrating/changing IP addresses, site access monitoring or do they manage connection security (https) and related site certificates. One site that provides similar services to that of providers like ZoneEdit but far extended with a host of addition services, as described above, is CloudFlare. Check it out:

https://www.cloudflare.com/

Jim

      

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar  7 14:52:47 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:52:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new web server
In-Reply-To: <56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <1943124403.33522809.1457383966998.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Here is a new web server which sits virtually on the web. The new P2P torrent site ?Play? has no single point of failure.

http://bit.ly/1TmXuRY

If you require such a site, for any reason, like a floating and secure MineCraft server site, that is secure from all outside attempts at breaking it...here is a viable option.

Of course there is the usual dark side to anything that is unstoppable from corporate, hacker or state-sanctioned take-down and can push information that can not be blocked. If you need such a site as a host or a client, check out the following:

https://zeronet.io/

Here is what the folks on reddit are saying: http://bit.ly/21hF2cR

Jim 


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Mar  7 15:33:19 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:33:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
In-Reply-To: <56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
	<56DD8D9A.4000608@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWGzZs=1ySD-9shHp1BeDbpYCTVsBQTposqAno_xOcPSRA@mail.gmail.com>

That's how I do my mileage as well. I keep a sheet in the truck and
every morning I write the starting mileage down, and what we are doing
for the day. Makes it easier to know which is personal and which is
business.

B

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Tina Norris Fields
<tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote:
> I know, going into this message, that I will have to duck and run - so -
> I use a notebook (paper and pencil), and record my mileage manually.  Only
> at the end of the year do I calculate the business and personal percentages.
> Over the years I've been doing the tracking, it's been pretty consistent -
> about 60-65% of all my miles are business.
> Now, I'm ducking and running!  :-)
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 02/18/16 4:20 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>>
>> My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are
>> modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his
>> mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able to
>> distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do in a
>> spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do this
>> already
>> available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).
>>
>> Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From eptept at gmail.com  Mon Mar  7 15:44:51 2016
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:44:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1jCyDST+ABdMzvA_eNWHm=zmLd1O0a7HEeZKcSB+52jTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpXtr+Ca20M=MxzEB7vROO22dMfNQeEtW5+HT6P37kbVdA@mail.gmail.com>

We use My Tracks, works very well and gives you a number of stats.  Free.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are
> modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his
> mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able to
> distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do in a
> spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do this already
> available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).
>
> Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar  7 19:59:58 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 18:59:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] That's where NoSQL Comes in...
In-Reply-To: <1457246192.856732142@f335.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1029853750.33765162.1457402398086.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

An excellent link... :-)

So we shall see if MS SQL and MondoDB can work together(?). 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:36:32 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] That's where NoSQL Comes in...


http://tinyurl.com/hbbsfk7

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From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Mon Mar  7 22:03:16 2016
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 20:03:16 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] That's where NoSQL Comes in...
In-Reply-To: <1029853750.33765162.1457402398086.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1029853750.33765162.1457402398086.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <44A4598C-8E68-46B4-84C4-B4A0C7E9C046@phulse.com>

So long as you don't treat mongo as anything other than a document storage db, I don't see a problem with a relational and non-relational database co-existing. In fact, I thinks it's a good idea.

- Hans


> On Mar 7, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Shamil:
> 
> An excellent link... :-)
> 
> So we shall see if MS SQL and MondoDB can work together(?). 
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:36:32 PM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] That's where NoSQL Comes in...
> 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/hbbsfk7
> 
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Mar  7 22:49:47 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 22:49:47 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] ribbon menus in file explorer win10
Message-ID: <56DE59EB.4070208@earthlink.net>

Anybody know how to get rid of them?

PB

From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar  8 00:55:15 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 06:55:15 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] ribbon menus in file explorer win10
In-Reply-To: <56DE59EB.4070208@earthlink.net>
References: <56DE59EB.4070208@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584E795EA900F8F1B113838CAB20@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Peter

Ctrl+F1

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 8. marts 2016 05:50
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] ribbon menus in file explorer win10

Anybody know how to get rid of them?

PB 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar  8 00:58:07 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 06:58:07 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new web server
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584BDC9173FAB4269E97410CAB20@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

Interesting concept. Thanks.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 7. marts 2016 21:53
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] A new web server

Here is a new web server which sits virtually on the web. The new P2P torrent site ?Play? has no single point of failure.

http://bit.ly/1TmXuRY

If you require such a site, for any reason, like a floating and secure MineCraft server site, that is secure from all outside attempts at breaking it...here is a viable option.

Of course there is the usual dark side to anything that is unstoppable from corporate, hacker or state-sanctioned take-down and can push information that can not be blocked. If you need such a site as a host or a client, check out the following:

https://zeronet.io/

Here is what the folks on reddit are saying: http://bit.ly/21hF2cR

Jim 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Mar  8 01:20:33 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:20:33 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?That=27s_where_NoSQL_Comes_in=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <44A4598C-8E68-46B4-84C4-B4A0C7E9C046@phulse.com>
References: <1029853750.33765162.1457402398086.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<44A4598C-8E68-46B4-84C4-B4A0C7E9C046@phulse.com>
Message-ID: <1457421633.691485339@f365.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Jim and Hans --

I just wanted to e-mail this link to myself for my records :) ...

Well, if it appeared here I should add that I have done some R&D during last week with MongoDB running on MS Windows. And I like it. Its' very flexible ?and it seems to be the best fit for the payroll/HRM databases I'm working on here in one of my projects ...

My only concern currently is how speedy is MongoDB comparing to MS SQL (or mySQL or other SQL Servers) for large databases. And what should be considered a large database for a MongoDB setup? Do you have any experience in this area?

Here are some inks on MongoDB databases scaling tasks and issues:

How We Scale MongoDB?
http://tinyurl.com/zzff6cp
Poor performance in MongoDB sharding?
http://tinyurl.com/holcrqe And Microsoft has a competing noSQL technology although it's MS Azure cloud proposal only -? http://tinyurl.com/hxxyzre ?...

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Monday, March  7, 2016 8:03 PM -08:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>
>So long as you don't treat mongo as anything other than a document storage db, I don't see a problem with a relational and non-relational database co-existing. In fact, I thinks it's a good idea.
>
>- Hans
>
>
>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Shamil:
>> 
>> An excellent link... :-)
>> 
>> So we shall see if MS SQL and MondoDB can work together(?). 
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:36:32 PM
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] That's where NoSQL Comes in...
>> 
>> 
>>  http://tinyurl.com/hbbsfk7
>> 
>> -- 
>> ???????????? ??????
>> _______________________________________________
>


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar  8 04:06:37 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:06:37 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Who would have believed this?
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15848D6931D31B888773C12DCAB20@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

I didn't, but here it is:

     http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2016/03/07/announcing-sql-server-on-linux/

/gustav

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Mar  8 10:32:48 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:32:48 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] ribbon menus in file explorer win10
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584E795EA900F8F1B113838CAB20@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <56DE59EB.4070208@earthlink.net>
	<VI1PR06MB1584E795EA900F8F1B113838CAB20@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <56DEFEB0.1080203@earthlink.net>

On 3/8/2016 0:55, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Ctrl+F1
>
> /gustav

Brilliant! Thank you!

PB

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> Emne: [dba-Tech] ribbon menus in file explorer win10
>
> Anybody know how to get rid of them?
>
> PB
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Mar  9 07:16:45 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:16:45 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Amazing JavaScript library for graphs
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hrptWfYrZNBJ+rSF16BTsJS+YrwQUMKDnxRBw75V5__g@mail.gmail.com>

I just happened upon an amazing JS library called D3. For a quick look at
what it can do, click here <https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery>.
To download D3, click here. <https://d3js.org/>

-- 
Arthur

From df.waters at outlook.com  Wed Mar  9 08:29:33 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:29:33 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Amazing JavaScript library for graphs
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hrptWfYrZNBJ+rSF16BTsJS+YrwQUMKDnxRBw75V5__g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hrptWfYrZNBJ+rSF16BTsJS+YrwQUMKDnxRBw75V5__g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS300BE2BB7072673C27D8CF6B30@phx.gbl>

Truly beautiful!  I'd sure like to get some of this into .Net reports in
Visual Studio.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:17 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Amazing JavaScript library for graphs

I just happened upon an amazing JS library called D3. For a quick look at
what it can do, click here <https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery>.
To download D3, click here. <https://d3js.org/>

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar  9 12:33:12 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:33:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Amazing JavaScript library for graphs
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hrptWfYrZNBJ+rSF16BTsJS+YrwQUMKDnxRBw75V5__g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2035810535.35130749.1457548392306.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Arthur:

They definitely are so cool. I have incorporated a couple of these apps into web sites before but would like to use them more... The svg graphics is so sharp and clear. Some of the apps are great for displaying and building graphs pulled from text or csv files inside a website. Could not recommend this product more.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 5:16:45 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Amazing JavaScript library for graphs

I just happened upon an amazing JS library called D3. For a quick look at
what it can do, click here <https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery>.
To download D3, click here. <https://d3js.org/>

-- 
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar  9 12:51:01 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:51:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Built in web editor
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hrptWfYrZNBJ+rSF16BTsJS+YrwQUMKDnxRBw75V5__g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40155555.35147452.1457549461700.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Has anyone used the following product before? 

I have been rebuilding a website and one of the mapped apps that has to be replaced is FCKEditor editor with the CKEditor editor. I think it has been around for a while (around 10 years), in various iterations...but it is new to me. If you haven't seen it before check it out:

http://ckeditor.com/

I know that there is Google docs and Microsoft's word online editor but this editor is completely customizable to your client's requirements. The site that I am working on allows the site owner to upgrade portions of his site without needing a web designer. 

http://ckeditor.com/demo

Jim

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Mar  9 12:57:11 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:57:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Built in web editor
In-Reply-To: <40155555.35147452.1457549461700.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1hrptWfYrZNBJ+rSF16BTsJS+YrwQUMKDnxRBw75V5__g@mail.gmail.com>
	<40155555.35147452.1457549461700.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWEWOa4iQike-aToxO+Bbm1MnY-LDfaG8UFU319-Kiz13A@mail.gmail.com>

I used it as part of a Drupal installation.

Didn't particularly care for it. It felt cumbersome and was difficult
to do anything more than simple text.

Now that could have been the way it was integrated with Drupal and not
the editor itself, I can't say for sure.

B

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Has anyone used the following product before?
>
> I have been rebuilding a website and one of the mapped apps that has to be replaced is FCKEditor editor with the CKEditor editor. I think it has been around for a while (around 10 years), in various iterations...but it is new to me. If you haven't seen it before check it out:
>
> http://ckeditor.com/
>
> I know that there is Google docs and Microsoft's word online editor but this editor is completely customizable to your client's requirements. The site that I am working on allows the site owner to upgrade portions of his site without needing a web designer.
>
> http://ckeditor.com/demo
>
> Jim
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-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu Mar 10 13:29:17 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:29:17 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Internet Explorer security patch also adds an
	advertising patch
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAAKTxYqNry+BBjzfLShhsSYABAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>

And you can't install the security patch without the advertising patch being
installed too (to be technically correct, most people can't). And once it is
installed the advertising patch does not show in the list of updates
applied. MS has lowered itself immensely with this scam. IE 11 has now
become adware.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3042155/microsoft-windows/windows-patch-kb-
3139929-when-a-security-update-is-not-a-security-update.html	


From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Thu Mar 10 13:38:55 2016
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:38:55 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 Updates - Fun and Games
Message-ID: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA8629F9CFA@PWGSMSLIVMBS09.mail.aig.net>

Here's another fine example of the trials and tribulations of Windows Update.

On the evening of March 5th, having left my Windows 10 box running unattended for a couple of hours, I came back to it to find a blue screen telling me that "Automatic Repair couldn't repair your PC", and I had the option to Shut Down or go to Advanced Options.


Naturally I chose Advanced Options and was presented with another screen with a variety of choices, including:

* Restart the PC
	- tried that, with no luck. Back to the same screen.
* Retry Automatic Repair
	 - tried that and it failed after a few minutes
* Reset the PC 
	- did not like the looks of that 
* Restore from a Restore Point 
	- That looked good as I did have some restore points. When I tried it, I was shown a list of available restore points, but when I chose any of them and hit the button to move on all I got was an error about some instruction referencing memory is some whacky location. In short Resorting was not going to happen.

I went around the options a couple of times, but after an hour had made no progress so I gave up and powered off, thinking  "looks like I need to dig out that Windows install DVD". Just for kicks and giggles I powered it up again straight away, and to my surprise and delight the thing booted up into the normal login screen. So  logged in and immediately created a new restore point.

At that point I powered down and went to bed.

Then on March 8th, having left the machine running and idle for a longish time the same thing happened.  Got the "Automatic Repair couldn't repair your PC" screen. This time however I was up and running in a few minutes as the restore point I created on the 5th was functional.

It seemed evident to me that I was falling foul of an automatic update that was happening during idle time. Having only Windows 10 Home I have essentially no control over the update process.  So I took a look at my update history and sure enough, on the 5th and 8th there were entries showing one of those cumulative updates having failed to install (forget the KB number, but I can post it later if anyone wants to know). 

Then last night, while looking into the situation again, I opened the windows update screen and saw that there was a new cumulative update dated March 9th awaiting download and installation.  So I thought, perhaps if I let that one get installed, being later than and so superseding the update that had failed twice, perhaps this new update will have had the bugs swept out of it. Sure enough, it did in fact successfully install without any problems. 

Pity the poor average Joe presented with this situation. I see lots of money being handed over to Geek Squad to sort this out for non-computer savvy users. And I wonder when something bad like this will crop up again.

Lambert



From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Mar 10 13:47:28 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:47:28 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Internet Explorer security patch also adds an
 advertising patch
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAAKTxYqNry+BBjzfLShhsSYABAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAAKTxYqNry+BBjzfLShhsSYABAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <56E1CF50.9080201@earthlink.net>

On 3/10/2016 13:29, John R Bartow wrote:
> And you can't install the security patch without the advertising patch being
> installed too (to be technically correct, most people can't). And once it is
> installed the advertising patch does not show in the list of updates
> applied. MS has lowered itself immensely with this scam. IE 11 has now
> become adware.

Much adware in win 10, disgusting.

PB

-----
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3042155/microsoft-windows/windows-patch-kb-
> 3139929-when-a-security-update-is-not-a-security-update.html	
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 10 17:57:15 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:57:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] ASP to ASP conversion
In-Reply-To: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA8629F9CFA@PWGSMSLIVMBS09.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <364250326.604314.1457654235333.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

I have a job working on an old ASP site but would definitely like to migrate the site to ASP.Net as it should be easiest. There is about 50 pages of ASP code and a Access MDB BE. I was wondering if there is a good converter the would at least not make a big mess when processing the site. I don't mind doing some clean up but the client would definitely not want to pay for a hand-done site. 

Any suggestions or comments. It will be greatly appreciated.

MTIA
Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 10 20:25:41 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:25:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The new Raspberry PIs are here
In-Reply-To: <2035810535.35130749.1457548392306.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1052244577.717236.1457663141568.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

The top 10 projects to try out with your Raspberry Pi 3

http://tek.io/1YE0lW3

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 10 20:38:33 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:38:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Built in web editor
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWEWOa4iQike-aToxO+Bbm1MnY-LDfaG8UFU319-Kiz13A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1417870190.723761.1457663913514.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Bryan:

I agree...but this is what the client wants.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 10:57:11 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Built in web editor

I used it as part of a Drupal installation.

Didn't particularly care for it. It felt cumbersome and was difficult
to do anything more than simple text.

Now that could have been the way it was integrated with Drupal and not
the editor itself, I can't say for sure.

B

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Has anyone used the following product before?
>
> I have been rebuilding a website and one of the mapped apps that has to be replaced is FCKEditor editor with the CKEditor editor. I think it has been around for a while (around 10 years), in various iterations...but it is new to me. If you haven't seen it before check it out:
>
> http://ckeditor.com/
>
> I know that there is Google docs and Microsoft's word online editor but this editor is completely customizable to your client's requirements. The site that I am working on allows the site owner to upgrade portions of his site without needing a web designer.
>
> http://ckeditor.com/demo
>
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Mar 11 08:03:17 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:03:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Anyone with insight into Microsoft 365 update scheduling
	practices
Message-ID: <000f01d17b9e$c35e6e50$4a1b4af0$@gmail.com>

Most of you probably know that Microsoft added some interesting
functionality to 365 in February. I'm updating automatically and my desktop
version doesn't have these new functions. I've looked all over trying to
figure out when they'll be available to the desktop version - I've even
contacted Microsoft but heard nothing. 

 

It's okay to write about 365 but readers are going to want to know and I
have no idea how they can learn more. It's Okay to say, "Nobody knows." but
that has to be the real deal or I look like an idiot. 

 

Either I'm using the wrong search strings or the info just isn't out there. 

 

Any help? 

 

Susan H. 


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Mar 11 09:15:32 2016
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (fhtapia at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:15:32 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] dba-Tech Digest, Vol 153, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1157.1457420131.9929.dba-tech@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <mailman.1157.1457420131.9929.dba-tech@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <CAP+kXmb1PQAP-qFwP7wuNDO-XOKCdgxd6zM3sYTaWsN9qGRqxQ@mail.gmail.com>

there is always Mileage IQ
 https://www.mileiq.com/


Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:44:51 -0500
> From: Ed Tesiny <eptept at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>         <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Tablet app to track mileage
> Message-ID:
>         <CAEkqQpXtr+Ca20M=
> MxzEB7vROO22dMfNQeEtW5+HT6P37kbVdA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> We use My Tracks, works very well and gives you a number of stats.  Free.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > My brother has requested advice on purchasing a tablet. His needs are
> > modest, but one essential is an app that would enable him to track his
> > mileage. He's in the film business and travels a lot, but must be able to
> > distinguish personal from project travel mileage. Easy enough to do in a
> > spreadsheet, but it would be better if there were an app to do this
> already
> > available (otherwise he might pressure me into writing one).
> >
> > Anyone know of anything in the app store already designed to do this?
> >
> > --
> > Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 11 14:23:15 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:23:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] OwnCloud version 9
In-Reply-To: <2035810535.35130749.1457548392306.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <481623390.1303959.1457727795009.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

OwnCloud version 9 is here.

http://bit.ly/1XiPv6M

I have been using OwnCloud for years and find it very useful. I use it for keeping my shared calendar organised, doing some documenting (It is similar to Google docs) but it is better for private messages and of course, sharing family photos. I don't use the mail AP but may in the future. It is a wonderful secure package that trickle-syncs common files across the network and internet, in the background so very little resources are used. It also runs on all Operating Systems. 

Jim   

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Mar 12 06:15:25 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] dba-Tech Digest, Vol 153, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <CAP+kXmb1PQAP-qFwP7wuNDO-XOKCdgxd6zM3sYTaWsN9qGRqxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1157.1457420131.9929.dba-tech@databaseadvisors.com>
	<CAP+kXmb1PQAP-qFwP7wuNDO-XOKCdgxd6zM3sYTaWsN9qGRqxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h2D=Bg2zj-ug4PaBjpDLA9_OM+ge1KOe1zBTq3_OOifg@mail.gmail.com>

Francisco,

After doing a tad of research on the subject, I decided upon MileIQ as you
suggested. My brother bought a spiffy little tablet and MileIQ as well, and
he seems very happy with his choices.

Arthur
?

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Mar 14 09:58:02 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 10:58:02 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
Message-ID: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>

What do you guys think of the virus protection that comes with Windows 10?
I'm still using a paid sub to Vipre but plan to dump it when this sub is up
- not working as well as it used to. I'm skeptical about what Windows 10
offers - find it hard to believe it could be comprehensive on its own. 

 

Discuss? 

 

Susan H. 


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 14 13:20:59 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:20:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>

On 3/14/2016 9:58, Susan Harkins wrote:
> What do you guys think of the virus protection that comes with Windows 10?
> I'm still using a paid sub to Vipre but plan to dump it when this sub is up
> - not working as well as it used to. I'm skeptical about what Windows 10
> offers - find it hard to believe it could be comprehensive on its own.

With WD alone this new win10 laptop caught a cold within two weeks. With 
free editions of Bit Defender & MalwareBytes, all good in the three 
months since.

PB

-----

>
>   
>
> Discuss?
>
>   
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Mar 14 16:46:52 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:46:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>
	<56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>

Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB free
onboard for a second opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Brawley
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:21 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

On 3/14/2016 9:58, Susan Harkins wrote:
> What do you guys think of the virus protection that comes with Windows 10?
> I'm still using a paid sub to Vipre but plan to dump it when this sub 
> is up
> - not working as well as it used to. I'm skeptical about what Windows 
> 10 offers - find it hard to believe it could be comprehensive on its own.

With WD alone this new win10 laptop caught a cold within two weeks. With
free editions of Bit Defender & MalwareBytes, all good in the three months
since.

PB

-----

>
>   
>
> Discuss?
>
>   
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Mar 14 16:52:46 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:52:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>	<56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>
	<0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <000301d17e3b$d8db0e60$8a912b20$@gmail.com>

I download MwB occasionally and run it. Are you guys running the paid
version now. I'm not adverse to buying it if it's worth it. 

Susan H. 



Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB free
onboard for a second opinion.




From df.waters at outlook.com  Mon Mar 14 16:53:06 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:53:06 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>	<56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>
	<0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS186B42A2229634C17AF46FF6880@phx.gbl>

I use MalwareBytes Pro for the PC, plush MalwareBytes Anti-Exploit for
websites, and of course Microsoft Security Essentials.

No problems for as long as I can remember.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John R Bartow
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:47 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
Importance: High

Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB free
onboard for a second opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Brawley
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:21 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

On 3/14/2016 9:58, Susan Harkins wrote:
> What do you guys think of the virus protection that comes with Windows 10?
> I'm still using a paid sub to Vipre but plan to dump it when this sub 
> is up
> - not working as well as it used to. I'm skeptical about what Windows
> 10 offers - find it hard to believe it could be comprehensive on its own.

With WD alone this new win10 laptop caught a cold within two weeks. With
free editions of Bit Defender & MalwareBytes, all good in the three months
since.

PB

-----

>
>   
>
> Discuss?
>
>   
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From df.waters at outlook.com  Mon Mar 14 16:54:30 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:54:30 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <000301d17e3b$d8db0e60$8a912b20$@gmail.com>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>	<56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>	<0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
	<000301d17e3b$d8db0e60$8a912b20$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS18731FC9AF51DDBB5CF635F6880@phx.gbl>

It's worth it.  The only time I hear anything from it is when it's got
something.  Which might happen only every few months!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:53 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

I download MwB occasionally and run it. Are you guys running the paid
version now. I'm not adverse to buying it if it's worth it. 

Susan H. 



Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB free
onboard for a second opinion.



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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 14 21:57:09 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 21:57:09 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <000301d17e3b$d8db0e60$8a912b20$@gmail.com>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>
	<56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>
	<0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
	<000301d17e3b$d8db0e60$8a912b20$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56E77A05.4050903@earthlink.net>

On 3/14/2016 16:52, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I download MwB occasionally and run it. Are you guys running the paid
> version now.

Susan

Free version has always done the job for me.

PB

-----

> I'm not adverse to buying it if it's worth it.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>
> Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB free
> onboard for a second opinion.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 14 22:15:39 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 21:15:39 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1341061174.3656252.1458011739484.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Peter:

Have you heard about Microsoft's latest adventure; post-breach detection to Windows 10. 

http://bit.ly/1Lnwa3v and http://bit.ly/1QTWjHq

IMHO, this a just a post disaster product that will come as a per machine service charge. If there is to be a security product let it be a pre-disaster protection system. 

A few of observations from these articles are as follows: How much data has MS been vacuuming off Windows 10 PCs to acquire this knowledge in the first place and just how much more will be expropriated? How much bandwidth will it take run these continuous post disaster analysis routines on a big network? What happens to the anonymous data that has and will be acquired from all these businesses? From my observation Windows 10 is well on its way to make MS user's PCs into little more than data mines for hyper-connected terminals. The irony is that all this is that Microsoft is using a massive Linux internet infra-structure to go for absolute control.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:20:59 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

On 3/14/2016 9:58, Susan Harkins wrote:
> What do you guys think of the virus protection that comes with Windows 10?
> I'm still using a paid sub to Vipre but plan to dump it when this sub is up
> - not working as well as it used to. I'm skeptical about what Windows 10
> offers - find it hard to believe it could be comprehensive on its own.

With WD alone this new win10 laptop caught a cold within two weeks. With 
free editions of Bit Defender & MalwareBytes, all good in the three 
months since.

PB

-----

>
>   
>
> Discuss?
>
>   
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar 15 02:20:33 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:20:33 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584D3177F21099D2641B334CA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim and Susan

I think you shouldn't forget that Microsoft is a major player in fighting malware and botnets, and we should appreciate every step fighting the bad guys. And if we can help this by a tiny offer, that's our small contribution in this battle. That's for a free service; if it should turn out as a paid service, you can just refuse the offer.

The large enterprises have established monitoring, so it won't help them, but the millions of small operations have not and wouldn't know how or don't have the funding to establish it.

That said, pre-disaster is always to prefer. We do that, and I have mentioned it several times, using a service hosted by CSIS:

     https://www.csis.dk/en/business/securedns/

It's a very cheap service. On desktops we use only the free Windows Defender. We have never had any infection on our dozen or so workstations.

It is available for stand-alone machines as well - as a client that uses the same DNS blockings as Secure DNS:

    https://heimdalsecurity.com/en/

However, for cleaning up clients' infected machines, Malwarebytes is a trusted helper.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 15. marts 2016 04:16
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi Peter:

Have you heard about Microsoft's latest adventure; post-breach detection to Windows 10. 

http://bit.ly/1Lnwa3v and http://bit.ly/1QTWjHq

IMHO, this a just a post disaster product that will come as a per machine service charge. If there is to be a security product let it be a pre-disaster protection system. 

A few of observations from these articles are as follows: How much data has MS been vacuuming off Windows 10 PCs to acquire this knowledge in the first place and just how much more will be expropriated? How much bandwidth will it take run these continuous post disaster analysis routines on a big network? What happens to the anonymous data that has and will be acquired from all these businesses? From my observation Windows 10 is well on its way to make MS user's PCs into little more than data mines for hyper-connected terminals. The irony is that all this is that Microsoft is using a massive Linux internet infra-structure to go for absolute control.

Jim 


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 15 09:13:58 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:13:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <1341061174.3656252.1458011739484.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <1341061174.3656252.1458011739484.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <56E818A6.8000009@earthlink.net>

On 3/14/2016 22:15, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> Have you heard about Microsoft's latest adventure; post-breach detection to Windows 10.
>
> http://bit.ly/1Lnwa3v

That looks to be about M$oft trying to monopolise windows appdev.
>   and http://bit.ly/1QTWjHq

And that's damn spooky, not just the mass data collection, esp. the 
premiss that unusual=dangerous, so even if Windows Defender gives 
adequate AV protection, there's a serious reason to avoid it.

PB

-----

>
> IMHO, this a just a post disaster product that will come as a per machine service charge. If there is to be a security product let it be a pre-disaster protection system.
>
> A few of observations from these articles are as follows: How much data has MS been vacuuming off Windows 10 PCs to acquire this knowledge in the first place and just how much more will be expropriated? How much bandwidth will it take run these continuous post disaster analysis routines on a big network? What happens to the anonymous data that has and will be acquired from all these businesses? From my observation Windows 10 is well on its way to make MS user's PCs into little more than data mines for hyper-connected terminals. The irony is that all this is that Microsoft is using a massive Linux internet infra-structure to go for absolute control.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:20:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>
> On 3/14/2016 9:58, Susan Harkins wrote:
>> What do you guys think of the virus protection that comes with Windows 10?
>> I'm still using a paid sub to Vipre but plan to dump it when this sub is up
>> - not working as well as it used to. I'm skeptical about what Windows 10
>> offers - find it hard to believe it could be comprehensive on its own.
> With WD alone this new win10 laptop caught a cold within two weeks. With
> free editions of Bit Defender & MalwareBytes, all good in the three
> months since.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>>    
>>
>> Discuss?
>>
>>    
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 15 09:16:51 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:16:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584D3177F21099D2641B334CA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1584D3177F21099D2641B334CA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <56E81953.1070005@earthlink.net>

On 3/15/2016 2:20, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Jim and Susan
>
> I think you shouldn't forget that Microsoft is a major player in fighting malware and botnets, and we should appreciate every step fighting the bad guys.

On that argument, we also ought to appreciate the FBI demanding that 
Apple decode its security, the NSA logging our phone & web activity &c.

Orwell, rolling, grave.

PB

-----

>   And if we can help this by a tiny offer, that's our small contribution in this battle. That's for a free service; if it should turn out as a paid service, you can just refuse the offer.
>
> The large enterprises have established monitoring, so it won't help them, but the millions of small operations have not and wouldn't know how or don't have the funding to establish it.
>
> That said, pre-disaster is always to prefer. We do that, and I have mentioned it several times, using a service hosted by CSIS:
>
>       https://www.csis.dk/en/business/securedns/
>
> It's a very cheap service. On desktops we use only the free Windows Defender. We have never had any infection on our dozen or so workstations.
>
> It is available for stand-alone machines as well - as a client that uses the same DNS blockings as Secure DNS:
>
>      https://heimdalsecurity.com/en/
>
> However, for cleaning up clients' infected machines, Malwarebytes is a trusted helper.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
> Sendt: 15. marts 2016 04:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>
> Hi Peter:
>
> Have you heard about Microsoft's latest adventure; post-breach detection to Windows 10.
>
> http://bit.ly/1Lnwa3v and http://bit.ly/1QTWjHq
>
> IMHO, this a just a post disaster product that will come as a per machine service charge. If there is to be a security product let it be a pre-disaster protection system.
>
> A few of observations from these articles are as follows: How much data has MS been vacuuming off Windows 10 PCs to acquire this knowledge in the first place and just how much more will be expropriated? How much bandwidth will it take run these continuous post disaster analysis routines on a big network? What happens to the anonymous data that has and will be acquired from all these businesses? From my observation Windows 10 is well on its way to make MS user's PCs into little more than data mines for hyper-connected terminals. The irony is that all this is that Microsoft is using a massive Linux internet infra-structure to go for absolute control.
>
> Jim
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar 15 09:24:15 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:24:15 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584917C604A2411993DF7B1CA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Peter

No, that is taking the argument too far.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Peter Brawley
Sendt: 15. marts 2016 15:17
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

On 3/15/2016 2:20, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Jim and Susan
>
> I think you shouldn't forget that Microsoft is a major player in fighting malware and botnets, and we should appreciate every step fighting the bad guys.

On that argument, we also ought to appreciate the FBI demanding that Apple decode its security, the NSA logging our phone & web activity &c.

Orwell, rolling, grave.

PB

-----

>   And if we can help this by a tiny offer, that's our small contribution in this battle. That's for a free service; if it should turn out as a paid service, you can just refuse the offer.
>
> The large enterprises have established monitoring, so it won't help them, but the millions of small operations have not and wouldn't know how or don't have the funding to establish it.
>
> That said, pre-disaster is always to prefer. We do that, and I have mentioned it several times, using a service hosted by CSIS:
>
>       https://www.csis.dk/en/business/securedns/
>
> It's a very cheap service. On desktops we use only the free Windows Defender. We have never had any infection on our dozen or so workstations.
>
> It is available for stand-alone machines as well - as a client that uses the same DNS blockings as Secure DNS:
>
>      https://heimdalsecurity.com/en/
>
> However, for cleaning up clients' infected machines, Malwarebytes is a trusted helper.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Jim Lawrence
> Sendt: 15. marts 2016 04:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>
> Hi Peter:
>
> Have you heard about Microsoft's latest adventure; post-breach detection to Windows 10.
>
> http://bit.ly/1Lnwa3v and http://bit.ly/1QTWjHq
>
> IMHO, this a just a post disaster product that will come as a per machine service charge. If there is to be a security product let it be a pre-disaster protection system.
>
> A few of observations from these articles are as follows: How much data has MS been vacuuming off Windows 10 PCs to acquire this knowledge in the first place and just how much more will be expropriated? How much bandwidth will it take run these continuous post disaster analysis routines on a big network? What happens to the anonymous data that has and will be acquired from all these businesses? From my observation Windows 10 is well on its way to make MS user's PCs into little more than data mines for hyper-connected terminals. The irony is that all this is that Microsoft is using a massive Linux internet infra-structure to go for absolute control.
>
> Jim 


From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Mar 15 09:31:34 2016
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (fhtapia at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:31:34 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] dba-Tech Digest, Vol 153, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1h2D=Bg2zj-ug4PaBjpDLA9_OM+ge1KOe1zBTq3_OOifg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1157.1457420131.9929.dba-tech@databaseadvisors.com>
	<CAP+kXmb1PQAP-qFwP7wuNDO-XOKCdgxd6zM3sYTaWsN9qGRqxQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1h2D=Bg2zj-ug4PaBjpDLA9_OM+ge1KOe1zBTq3_OOifg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP+kXmYt3Nj_Lz1h0Z-b4V=8q2tr_eN5XZcaPjxnG1p33PN4VA@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur, that sounds great, report back with any details if he shares any :)
(what he likes, what he doesn't etc).

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:19 AM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Francisco,
>
> After doing a tad of research on the subject, I decided upon MileIQ as you
> suggested. My brother bought a spiffy little tablet and MileIQ as well, and
> he seems very happy with his choices.
>
> Arthur
> ?
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 15 09:41:39 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:41:39 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584917C604A2411993DF7B1CA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1584917C604A2411993DF7B1CA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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On 3/15/2016 9:24, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> No, that is taking the argument too far.

Is it? What's the principle on which FBI vs Apple and NSA on our phones 
are Orwellian but M$oft's WDATP isn't?

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Peter Brawley
> Sendt: 15. marts 2016 15:17
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>
> On 3/15/2016 2:20, Gustav Brock wrote:
>> Hi Jim and Susan
>>
>> I think you shouldn't forget that Microsoft is a major player in fighting malware and botnets, and we should appreciate every step fighting the bad guys.
> On that argument, we also ought to appreciate the FBI demanding that Apple decode its security, the NSA logging our phone & web activity &c.
>
> Orwell, rolling, grave.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>>    And if we can help this by a tiny offer, that's our small contribution in this battle. That's for a free service; if it should turn out as a paid service, you can just refuse the offer.
>>
>> The large enterprises have established monitoring, so it won't help them, but the millions of small operations have not and wouldn't know how or don't have the funding to establish it.
>>
>> That said, pre-disaster is always to prefer. We do that, and I have mentioned it several times, using a service hosted by CSIS:
>>
>>        https://www.csis.dk/en/business/securedns/
>>
>> It's a very cheap service. On desktops we use only the free Windows Defender. We have never had any infection on our dozen or so workstations.
>>
>> It is available for stand-alone machines as well - as a client that uses the same DNS blockings as Secure DNS:
>>
>>       https://heimdalsecurity.com/en/
>>
>> However, for cleaning up clients' infected machines, Malwarebytes is a trusted helper.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
>> af Jim Lawrence
>> Sendt: 15. marts 2016 04:16
>> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>>
>> Hi Peter:
>>
>> Have you heard about Microsoft's latest adventure; post-breach detection to Windows 10.
>>
>> http://bit.ly/1Lnwa3v and http://bit.ly/1QTWjHq
>>
>> IMHO, this a just a post disaster product that will come as a per machine service charge. If there is to be a security product let it be a pre-disaster protection system.
>>
>> A few of observations from these articles are as follows: How much data has MS been vacuuming off Windows 10 PCs to acquire this knowledge in the first place and just how much more will be expropriated? How much bandwidth will it take run these continuous post disaster analysis routines on a big network? What happens to the anonymous data that has and will be acquired from all these businesses? From my observation Windows 10 is well on its way to make MS user's PCs into little more than data mines for hyper-connected terminals. The irony is that all this is that Microsoft is using a massive Linux internet infra-structure to go for absolute control.
>>
>> Jim
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar 15 10:00:22 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:00:22 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB158478387CEA8CFBB1D7923DCA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Peter

Really? Can't you see that? Think twice.

Hint: Like Apple and Alphabet, Microsoft is not a government agency but a normal commercial enterprise.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Peter Brawley
Sendt: 15. marts 2016 15:42
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

On 3/15/2016 9:24, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> No, that is taking the argument too far.

Is it? What's the principle on which FBI vs Apple and NSA on our phones are Orwellian but M$oft's WDATP isn't?

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Peter Brawley
> Sendt: 15. marts 2016 15:17
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>
> On 3/15/2016 2:20, Gustav Brock wrote:
>> Hi Jim and Susan
>>
>> I think you shouldn't forget that Microsoft is a major player in fighting malware and botnets, and we should appreciate every step fighting the bad guys.
> On that argument, we also ought to appreciate the FBI demanding that Apple decode its security, the NSA logging our phone & web activity &c.
>
> Orwell, rolling, grave.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>>    And if we can help this by a tiny offer, that's our small contribution in this battle. That's for a free service; if it should turn out as a paid service, you can just refuse the offer.
>>
>> The large enterprises have established monitoring, so it won't help them, but the millions of small operations have not and wouldn't know how or don't have the funding to establish it.
>>
>> That said, pre-disaster is always to prefer. We do that, and I have mentioned it several times, using a service hosted by CSIS:
>>
>>        https://www.csis.dk/en/business/securedns/
>>
>> It's a very cheap service. On desktops we use only the free Windows Defender. We have never had any infection on our dozen or so workstations.
>>
>> It is available for stand-alone machines as well - as a client that uses the same DNS blockings as Secure DNS:
>>
>>       https://heimdalsecurity.com/en/
>>
>> However, for cleaning up clients' infected machines, Malwarebytes is a trusted helper.
>>
>> /gustav 


From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Mar 15 10:04:39 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 11:04:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>
	<56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>
	<0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <56E82487.70505@torchlake.com>

"Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with"

Hi John,

Is this just for Windows 10, or have you abandoned Vipre altogether?

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 03/14/16 5:46 PM, John R Bartow wrote:
> Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB free
> onboard for a second opinion.
>
>


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 15 10:32:34 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:32:34 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB158478387CEA8CFBB1D7923DCA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB158478387CEA8CFBB1D7923DCA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <56E82B12.4000107@earthlink.net>

On 3/15/2016 10:00, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Really? Can't you see that? Think twice.
>
> Hint: Like Apple and Alphabet, Microsoft is not a government agency but a normal commercial enterprise.

Right, M$oft is not a government, yet the sort of control M$oft is going 
for with such programs is very similar.

PB

-----

>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Peter Brawley
> Sendt: 15. marts 2016 15:42
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>
> On 3/15/2016 9:24, Gustav Brock wrote:
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> No, that is taking the argument too far.
> Is it? What's the principle on which FBI vs Apple and NSA on our phones are Orwellian but M$oft's WDATP isn't?
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> /gustav
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
>> af Peter Brawley
>> Sendt: 15. marts 2016 15:17
>> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>>
>> On 3/15/2016 2:20, Gustav Brock wrote:
>>> Hi Jim and Susan
>>>
>>> I think you shouldn't forget that Microsoft is a major player in fighting malware and botnets, and we should appreciate every step fighting the bad guys.
>> On that argument, we also ought to appreciate the FBI demanding that Apple decode its security, the NSA logging our phone & web activity &c.
>>
>> Orwell, rolling, grave.
>>
>> PB
>>
>> -----
>>
>>>     And if we can help this by a tiny offer, that's our small contribution in this battle. That's for a free service; if it should turn out as a paid service, you can just refuse the offer.
>>>
>>> The large enterprises have established monitoring, so it won't help them, but the millions of small operations have not and wouldn't know how or don't have the funding to establish it.
>>>
>>> That said, pre-disaster is always to prefer. We do that, and I have mentioned it several times, using a service hosted by CSIS:
>>>
>>>         https://www.csis.dk/en/business/securedns/
>>>
>>> It's a very cheap service. On desktops we use only the free Windows Defender. We have never had any infection on our dozen or so workstations.
>>>
>>> It is available for stand-alone machines as well - as a client that uses the same DNS blockings as Secure DNS:
>>>
>>>        https://heimdalsecurity.com/en/
>>>
>>> However, for cleaning up clients' infected machines, Malwarebytes is a trusted helper.
>>>
>>> /gustav
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Mar 15 11:41:56 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 11:41:56 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <56E82487.70505@torchlake.com>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>	<56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>	<0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
	<56E82487.70505@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <01df01d17ed9$96df61c0$c49e2540$@winhaven.net>

Hi Tina,
Disclaimer: we're all very technical people on these lists so my discussion
does reflect people that know what they're doing. ;-)

I haven't abandoned Vipre. After being sold/spun off for the third time in
about 1/2 dozen years, I expected there may have been some staff drainage at
Vipre HQ. But et, I've had no problems with it in my client base. But then I
also don't rely on one program to secure my clients. (Layering is a must.)
Vipre seems to be better than Bitdefender at blocking the annoying crapware
add-ons like conduit based toolbars and such. But Bitdefender had a better
solution for preventing ransomware and that is currently the most damaging
exploit there is and is only getting worse. All it takes is to click on one
email attachment that starts the process and a disaster begins. But even
where I am replacing Vipre on PCs, if they have a server Vipre will stay on
it. That's two AMs scanning the same files. 

For instance I like to have Vipre and HitmanPro web alert. It seems to be
very effective (either that or I have very smart clients) at blocking web
born exploits. Also CryptoPrevent is a good product for small businesses to
aid in resisting ransomware (and there is a free version.) It coexists
nicely with the normal AM like Vipre or BitDefender. And for clients that
have gateways with malware scanning support, it is usually Kaspersky or
Sophos AM scanners.

No AMs can stop the latest exploits immediately, there's a reaction curve.
The problem is the users. Specifically users being duped into doing
something they shouldn't. That is the #1 cause of problems and it's hard to
get people to stop clicking on attachments, advertisements, fake update
pop-ups etc. So, we try to block all of that stuff. For every solution there
is a reaction from the bad guys and the circle continues. I insist on popup
blockers in browsers - currently I install AdBlockPlus on all browsers
because it is the only free solution I know of that works easily, and
supports IE, FF and Chrome. (Most of my client base still have to use IE for
some websites.)

Also mail filtering is SO important. Currently mail filters should remove
any attachment with embedded javascript as that is the latest attack vector
of ransomware exploits. And it needs to strip the, by now, run of the mill
fake UPS or FedEx email with the infected attachments that have been duping
people for decades.

But the biggest thing people need to have is disconnected backup. Sticking
an external drive onto a PC, backing up to it every day and thinking that
will save has been outmoded since the inception of ransomware, encrypting
exploits. Anything they can get to now, they encrypt, including external
devices, mapped and unmapped networks shares,
DropBox/OneDrive/GoogleDrive/SugarSync synchronizations folders (and hence
their cloud counterparts). Disconnected backup includes the old rotational
backups and/or true cloud backup solutions. 

Prevention is much less expensive than reactionary remediation.

I still get a lot of PCs to clean up for people that aren't my RMS clients.
They come in with all sorts of "security" programs installed and mostly
ignored. Hence my attitude towards "free" security solutions. They're only
free until I have to get the PC ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Tina Norris Fields
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:05 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

"Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with"

Hi John,

Is this just for Windows 10, or have you abandoned Vipre altogether?

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 03/14/16 5:46 PM, John R Bartow wrote:
> Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB 
> free onboard for a second opinion.
>
>

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Mar 15 12:50:10 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:50:10 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <01df01d17ed9$96df61c0$c49e2540$@winhaven.net>
References: <000801d17e01$e8dd0140$ba9703c0$@gmail.com>
	<56E7010B.90605@earthlink.net>
	<0a6401d17e3b$052eabd0$0f8c0370$@winhaven.net>
	<56E82487.70505@torchlake.com>
	<01df01d17ed9$96df61c0$c49e2540$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <56E84B52.8020307@torchlake.com>

John,
Thanks for all that excellent information.  I've been watching Vipre 
carefully, too, because of the revolving door of selling.  But, Vipre 
has done a very fine job for me, thus far.  I appreciate the heads up on 
Bitdefender and will follow up on that.  Thanks again.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 03/15/16 12:41 PM, John R Bartow wrote:
> Hi Tina,
> Disclaimer: we're all very technical people on these lists so my discussion
> does reflect people that know what they're doing. ;-)
>
> I haven't abandoned Vipre. After being sold/spun off for the third time in
> about 1/2 dozen years, I expected there may have been some staff drainage at
> Vipre HQ. But et, I've had no problems with it in my client base. But then I
> also don't rely on one program to secure my clients. (Layering is a must.)
> Vipre seems to be better than Bitdefender at blocking the annoying crapware
> add-ons like conduit based toolbars and such. But Bitdefender had a better
> solution for preventing ransomware and that is currently the most damaging
> exploit there is and is only getting worse. All it takes is to click on one
> email attachment that starts the process and a disaster begins. But even
> where I am replacing Vipre on PCs, if they have a server Vipre will stay on
> it. That's two AMs scanning the same files.
>
> For instance I like to have Vipre and HitmanPro web alert. It seems to be
> very effective (either that or I have very smart clients) at blocking web
> born exploits. Also CryptoPrevent is a good product for small businesses to
> aid in resisting ransomware (and there is a free version.) It coexists
> nicely with the normal AM like Vipre or BitDefender. And for clients that
> have gateways with malware scanning support, it is usually Kaspersky or
> Sophos AM scanners.
>
> No AMs can stop the latest exploits immediately, there's a reaction curve.
> The problem is the users. Specifically users being duped into doing
> something they shouldn't. That is the #1 cause of problems and it's hard to
> get people to stop clicking on attachments, advertisements, fake update
> pop-ups etc. So, we try to block all of that stuff. For every solution there
> is a reaction from the bad guys and the circle continues. I insist on popup
> blockers in browsers - currently I install AdBlockPlus on all browsers
> because it is the only free solution I know of that works easily, and
> supports IE, FF and Chrome. (Most of my client base still have to use IE for
> some websites.)
>
> Also mail filtering is SO important. Currently mail filters should remove
> any attachment with embedded javascript as that is the latest attack vector
> of ransomware exploits. And it needs to strip the, by now, run of the mill
> fake UPS or FedEx email with the infected attachments that have been duping
> people for decades.
>
> But the biggest thing people need to have is disconnected backup. Sticking
> an external drive onto a PC, backing up to it every day and thinking that
> will save has been outmoded since the inception of ransomware, encrypting
> exploits. Anything they can get to now, they encrypt, including external
> devices, mapped and unmapped networks shares,
> DropBox/OneDrive/GoogleDrive/SugarSync synchronizations folders (and hence
> their cloud counterparts). Disconnected backup includes the old rotational
> backups and/or true cloud backup solutions.
>
> Prevention is much less expensive than reactionary remediation.
>
> I still get a lot of PCs to clean up for people that aren't my RMS clients.
> They come in with all sorts of "security" programs installed and mostly
> ignored. Hence my attitude towards "free" security solutions. They're only
> free until I have to get the PC ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Tina Norris Fields
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:05 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
>
> "Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with"
>
> Hi John,
>
> Is this just for Windows 10, or have you abandoned Vipre altogether?
>
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 03/14/16 5:46 PM, John R Bartow wrote:
>> Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB
>> free onboard for a second opinion.
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar 15 14:52:07 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:52:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <01df01d17ed9$96df61c0$c49e2540$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <2024872097.4225344.1458071527611.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

I will make some comments on how to do things and subtle changes in our approach but as you said this group is techs and we are not typical (if ever) users and therefore not prone to making dumb and simple errors.

That said; your over-view is excellent. Below are my comments.

Mail is the most dangerous application on any network. Its port (80) is always open and virtually every bug comes into a PC or network via that address. Some clients are doing their mail via virtual drive or Container on their own PCs. Then there is the server solution where mail is isolated through a Hyper-V and user just connect through a web interface. As Hyper-V is not really Windows, its OS is not as susceptible to the standard viruses. (Then of course there are Linux mail servers which are only prone to a very few pieces of malware.) My ISP (Shaw) runs a copy Zimbra which is a web based mail server which can scale up from a simple client system to a huge internet/network Exchange like server (50 million clients or is it messages a day?)...unfortunately it is Linux based. One of the new trends is to host mail services through a Cloud based cluster of client mail boxes. The over all trend is to isolate client mail from any system but these alternatives are either corporate based or still fledgeling.

Backups are the next most critical point in any system. Cloud based backups are great but in a real catastrophic failure these data sources may become unavailable. To my way of thinking, the best backups are local, varied and continuous. Local; is always faster and accessible. Varied: One; there are a host of synchronization applications out there...when a program or data is changed a backup is kept of the changed information for a defined number of hours...(in the event of disaster, recovery can be time consuming.) Two; a good multiple backup system; daily, with a good range of copies and a high level of password protection (a backup password that is only used for the backup and is encapsulated and automated.). Three; off-site storage...there is no protection against a natural disaster. Four; a good file system design...one that makes client side restore points...but getting clients to do this regularly is difficult.) There is a trending FS called ZFS. For years it has been the domain of servers but now it is becoming a option for all operating systems...even Windows 10. The whole ZFS is designed to guarantee data integrity, with multiple layers of redundancy, auto-restore points, built in encryption for files and directories, expandable across multiple desktops and servers.       

Isolation is one of the best methods to keep malware segregated from the main network. Always isolate the mail system from the companies data. Some network guys keep their mail on a different subnet from the rest of the business. Aside: On one client, I had her mail hosted on a server accessed via a RPD client connection after the fourth time she managed to get her station compromised and the problem disappeared. 

My forte has been to protect a system before it can and does get compromised. You have a great understanding of how to protect a network or PC when to does get compromised. ;-)

Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:41:56 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi Tina,
Disclaimer: we're all very technical people on these lists so my discussion
does reflect people that know what they're doing. ;-)

I haven't abandoned Vipre. After being sold/spun off for the third time in
about 1/2 dozen years, I expected there may have been some staff drainage at
Vipre HQ. But et, I've had no problems with it in my client base. But then I
also don't rely on one program to secure my clients. (Layering is a must.)
Vipre seems to be better than Bitdefender at blocking the annoying crapware
add-ons like conduit based toolbars and such. But Bitdefender had a better
solution for preventing ransomware and that is currently the most damaging
exploit there is and is only getting worse. All it takes is to click on one
email attachment that starts the process and a disaster begins. But even
where I am replacing Vipre on PCs, if they have a server Vipre will stay on
it. That's two AMs scanning the same files. 

For instance I like to have Vipre and HitmanPro web alert. It seems to be
very effective (either that or I have very smart clients) at blocking web
born exploits. Also CryptoPrevent is a good product for small businesses to
aid in resisting ransomware (and there is a free version.) It coexists
nicely with the normal AM like Vipre or BitDefender. And for clients that
have gateways with malware scanning support, it is usually Kaspersky or
Sophos AM scanners.

No AMs can stop the latest exploits immediately, there's a reaction curve.
The problem is the users. Specifically users being duped into doing
something they shouldn't. That is the #1 cause of problems and it's hard to
get people to stop clicking on attachments, advertisements, fake update
pop-ups etc. So, we try to block all of that stuff. For every solution there
is a reaction from the bad guys and the circle continues. I insist on popup
blockers in browsers - currently I install AdBlockPlus on all browsers
because it is the only free solution I know of that works easily, and
supports IE, FF and Chrome. (Most of my client base still have to use IE for
some websites.)

Also mail filtering is SO important. Currently mail filters should remove
any attachment with embedded javascript as that is the latest attack vector
of ransomware exploits. And it needs to strip the, by now, run of the mill
fake UPS or FedEx email with the infected attachments that have been duping
people for decades.

But the biggest thing people need to have is disconnected backup. Sticking
an external drive onto a PC, backing up to it every day and thinking that
will save has been outmoded since the inception of ransomware, encrypting
exploits. Anything they can get to now, they encrypt, including external
devices, mapped and unmapped networks shares,
DropBox/OneDrive/GoogleDrive/SugarSync synchronizations folders (and hence
their cloud counterparts). Disconnected backup includes the old rotational
backups and/or true cloud backup solutions. 

Prevention is much less expensive than reactionary remediation.

I still get a lot of PCs to clean up for people that aren't my RMS clients.
They come in with all sorts of "security" programs installed and mostly
ignored. Hence my attitude towards "free" security solutions. They're only
free until I have to get the PC ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Tina Norris Fields
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:05 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

"Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with"

Hi John,

Is this just for Windows 10, or have you abandoned Vipre altogether?

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 03/14/16 5:46 PM, John R Bartow wrote:
> Bitdefender is what I replaced Vipre with. Always keep a copy of MWB 
> free onboard for a second opinion.
>
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar 15 16:21:31 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:21:31 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584D3177F21099D2641B334CA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1244300803.4307811.1458076891072.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Gustav:

I realize that Microsoft is working hard to protect its users against malware and other trojans. The one main problem I have is that unlike, Apple and even Google, MS has not made a promise to protect your data. It of course, may be little more than a symbolic gesture but MS has not made any and clearly states user data may be used by a third-party. Their over-all user agreement is supposed to make Microsoft free from any potential legal challenges but there is also a potential dark-side to it.

Of course Microsoft feels that they gave us a free OS and much of the software on it so our side of the bargain is to allow them access to our data. They are a company, after all, that is solely driven by large profits and anything we receive "Free" must eventually be paid for. Knowing this, any altruism is balanced with the knowledge that the users and data is but a product for sale. The last Windows 10 install, along with help from Google, took me close to an hour to close all the data holes I could find.

One of the interesting things about Windows 10 was discovered in my Router logs. It appears that many requests from some package on the Windows desktop and within the system, invoke replies on other than the calling addresses. My router firewall protection is (SPI) Stateful packet inspection. IOWS the firewall blocks all packets not returned/replied to the active caller connection. I am not sure why a number of addresses are necessary for responding to a particular external request? There are a few programs that require a few ports opened when active but within their documentation there is always a section on the application rules, which can then be applied to the Router. Maybe I am extra suspicious of Microsoft?s full intentions but OTOH neither have they been fully forth-coming.  

Thanks for the names of the two application you are using. Though I myself may not be using them some of my fellow tech guys will find the products useful.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:20:33 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi Jim and Susan

I think you shouldn't forget that Microsoft is a major player in fighting malware and botnets, and we should appreciate every step fighting the bad guys. And if we can help this by a tiny offer, that's our small contribution in this battle. That's for a free service; if it should turn out as a paid service, you can just refuse the offer.

The large enterprises have established monitoring, so it won't help them, but the millions of small operations have not and wouldn't know how or don't have the funding to establish it.

That said, pre-disaster is always to prefer. We do that, and I have mentioned it several times, using a service hosted by CSIS:

     https://www.csis.dk/en/business/securedns/

It's a very cheap service. On desktops we use only the free Windows Defender. We have never had any infection on our dozen or so workstations.

It is available for stand-alone machines as well - as a client that uses the same DNS blockings as Secure DNS:

    https://heimdalsecurity.com/en/

However, for cleaning up clients' infected machines, Malwarebytes is a trusted helper.

/gustav


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Sendt: 15. marts 2016 04:16
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi Peter:

Have you heard about Microsoft's latest adventure; post-breach detection to Windows 10. 

http://bit.ly/1Lnwa3v and http://bit.ly/1QTWjHq

IMHO, this a just a post disaster product that will come as a per machine service charge. If there is to be a security product let it be a pre-disaster protection system. 

A few of observations from these articles are as follows: How much data has MS been vacuuming off Windows 10 PCs to acquire this knowledge in the first place and just how much more will be expropriated? How much bandwidth will it take run these continuous post disaster analysis routines on a big network? What happens to the anonymous data that has and will be acquired from all these businesses? From my observation Windows 10 is well on its way to make MS user's PCs into little more than data mines for hyper-connected terminals. The irony is that all this is that Microsoft is using a massive Linux internet infra-structure to go for absolute control.

Jim 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Mar 16 03:04:56 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:04:56 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15847D8A2FD3EBE4AD039757CA8A0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

My plan was to replace or Novell Groupwise with an in-house Exchange (part of the MAPS deal). One consideration was what to replace our spam filter, SpamBunker, which had ceased further development.

However, just at that time Office 365 was introduced, and I moved our mail host to its Exchange on-line with its included spamfilter. Then I could set up our in-house Exchange server later.

Well, it never happened. Exchange on-line works so well that I see no reason for setting up an Exchange server except for the fun and, believe me, I can think of tasks more fun than that. Also, a bit to my surprise, the spamfilter is not very effective but extremely effective with about zero false positives and less than five bad mails not caught per year. One was received by me, and just for fun I extracted the zip but Microsoft Defender ate the content.

For us, Office 365 has proven to be a zero issue choice that delivers - and our five main users are covered by our MAPS deal. Highly recommend if you are not MS paranoid.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 15. marts 2016 20:52
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi John:

I will make some comments on how to do things and subtle changes in our approach but as you said this group is techs and we are not typical (if ever) users and therefore not prone to making dumb and simple errors.

That said; your over-view is excellent. Below are my comments.

Mail is the most dangerous application on any network. Its port (80) is always open and virtually every bug comes into a PC or network via that address. Some clients are doing their mail via virtual drive or Container on their own PCs. Then there is the server solution where mail is isolated through a Hyper-V and user just connect through a web interface. As Hyper-V is not really Windows, its OS is not as susceptible to the standard viruses. (Then of course there are Linux mail servers which are only prone to a very few pieces of malware.) My ISP (Shaw) runs a copy Zimbra which is a web based mail server which can scale up from a simple client system to a huge internet/network Exchange like server (50 million clients or is it messages a day?)...unfortunately it is Linux based. One of the new trends is to host mail services through a Cloud based cluster of client mail boxes. The over all trend is to isolate client mail from any system but these alternatives are either corpora!
 te based or still fledgeling.

Backups are the next most critical point in any system. Cloud based backups are great but in a real catastrophic failure these data sources may become unavailable. To my way of thinking, the best backups are local, varied and continuous. Local; is always faster and accessible. Varied: One; there are a host of synchronization applications out there...when a program or data is changed a backup is kept of the changed information for a defined number of hours...(in the event of disaster, recovery can be time consuming.) Two; a good multiple backup system; daily, with a good range of copies and a high level of password protection (a backup password that is only used for the backup and is encapsulated and automated.). Three; off-site storage...there is no protection against a natural disaster. Four; a good file system design...one that makes client side restore points...but getting clients to do this regularly is difficult.) There is a trending FS called ZFS. For years it has been!
  the domain of servers but now it is becoming a option for all operating systems...even Windows 10. The whole ZFS is designed to guarantee data integrity, with multiple layers of redundancy, auto-restore points, built in encryption for files and directories, expandable across multiple desktops and servers.       

Isolation is one of the best methods to keep malware segregated from the main network. Always isolate the mail system from the companies data. Some network guys keep their mail on a different subnet from the rest of the business. Aside: On one client, I had her mail hosted on a server accessed via a RPD client connection after the fourth time she managed to get her station compromised and the problem disappeared. 

My forte has been to protect a system before it can and does get compromised. You have a great understanding of how to protect a network or PC when to does get compromised. ;-)

Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:41:56 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi Tina,
Disclaimer: we're all very technical people on these lists so my discussion does reflect people that know what they're doing. ;-)

I haven't abandoned Vipre. After being sold/spun off for the third time in about 1/2 dozen years, I expected there may have been some staff drainage at Vipre HQ. But et, I've had no problems with it in my client base. But then I also don't rely on one program to secure my clients. (Layering is a must.) Vipre seems to be better than Bitdefender at blocking the annoying crapware add-ons like conduit based toolbars and such. But Bitdefender had a better solution for preventing ransomware and that is currently the most damaging exploit there is and is only getting worse. All it takes is to click on one email attachment that starts the process and a disaster begins. But even where I am replacing Vipre on PCs, if they have a server Vipre will stay on it. That's two AMs scanning the same files. 

For instance I like to have Vipre and HitmanPro web alert. It seems to be very effective (either that or I have very smart clients) at blocking web born exploits. Also CryptoPrevent is a good product for small businesses to aid in resisting ransomware (and there is a free version.) It coexists nicely with the normal AM like Vipre or BitDefender. And for clients that have gateways with malware scanning support, it is usually Kaspersky or Sophos AM scanners.

No AMs can stop the latest exploits immediately, there's a reaction curve.
The problem is the users. Specifically users being duped into doing something they shouldn't. That is the #1 cause of problems and it's hard to get people to stop clicking on attachments, advertisements, fake update pop-ups etc. So, we try to block all of that stuff. For every solution there is a reaction from the bad guys and the circle continues. I insist on popup blockers in browsers - currently I install AdBlockPlus on all browsers because it is the only free solution I know of that works easily, and supports IE, FF and Chrome. (Most of my client base still have to use IE for some websites.)

Also mail filtering is SO important. Currently mail filters should remove any attachment with embedded javascript as that is the latest attack vector of ransomware exploits. And it needs to strip the, by now, run of the mill fake UPS or FedEx email with the infected attachments that have been duping people for decades.

But the biggest thing people need to have is disconnected backup. Sticking an external drive onto a PC, backing up to it every day and thinking that will save has been outmoded since the inception of ransomware, encrypting exploits. Anything they can get to now, they encrypt, including external devices, mapped and unmapped networks shares, DropBox/OneDrive/GoogleDrive/SugarSync synchronizations folders (and hence their cloud counterparts). Disconnected backup includes the old rotational backups and/or true cloud backup solutions. 

Prevention is much less expensive than reactionary remediation.

I still get a lot of PCs to clean up for people that aren't my RMS clients.
They come in with all sorts of "security" programs installed and mostly ignored. Hence my attitude towards "free" security solutions. They're only free until I have to get the PC ;-)


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar 16 15:50:36 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:50:36 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15847D8A2FD3EBE4AD039757CA8A0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1112545374.5138037.1458161436339.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

H Gustav:

I tend to like running my own system application in-shop but when it comes to mail servers that is where I draw the line. A properly run mail-server can be a whole career in itself. Dealing with spam, malware, white-lists, black-lists, groups, users, attachments, remote access, quotas and so on can be very time consuming. To my way of thinking, lets some else do it that knows what they are doing. I have only installed an Exchange server (actually have the original Microsoft 2013 DVD) once and realized it was as complex as a big Oracle install.    

I have nothing against Microsoft after all, they were my business from the first DOS disks. But sometimes, I am not particularly impressed with the companies direction. I think the latest Windows allowing MS to suck up the clients data is a little too greedy and invasive of a businesses' privacy...if they dial their aggressive approach back a bit, I will be happier.

I have retired and I can no longer justify the monthly expenses from Microsoft but I can see the attraction for a small business. For the last decade most of my work was at the system and server BE level for a variety of banks and large franchises. They all use (UNIX) Linux exclusively and from then on that environment has been my preference. 

In addition, big companies tend to be a bit excessive about their security and privacy and I have picked up a bit of their philosophy... Microsoft, as I see it, is going a bit against the grain. Maybe Microsoft doesn't understand this, as in their world, for years, it has been mostly the desktop and small networks...but times are changing and hidden security flaws along with internet exposure are taken very seriously. They should look to IBM as that company abandoned their proprietary OS and switched to Linux, a few years back, as that is what their customers wanted.

As for whether I am "Microsoft paranoid" hardly, cautious but not without good reasons. 

Jim  
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:04:56 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi Jim

My plan was to replace or Novell Groupwise with an in-house Exchange (part of the MAPS deal). One consideration was what to replace our spam filter, SpamBunker, which had ceased further development.

However, just at that time Office 365 was introduced, and I moved our mail host to its Exchange on-line with its included spamfilter. Then I could set up our in-house Exchange server later.

Well, it never happened. Exchange on-line works so well that I see no reason for setting up an Exchange server except for the fun and, believe me, I can think of tasks more fun than that. Also, a bit to my surprise, the spamfilter is not very effective but extremely effective with about zero false positives and less than five bad mails not caught per year. One was received by me, and just for fun I extracted the zip but Microsoft Defender ate the content.

For us, Office 365 has proven to be a zero issue choice that delivers - and our five main users are covered by our MAPS deal. Highly recommend if you are not MS paranoid.

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 15. marts 2016 20:52
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi John:

I will make some comments on how to do things and subtle changes in our approach but as you said this group is techs and we are not typical (if ever) users and therefore not prone to making dumb and simple errors.

That said; your over-view is excellent. Below are my comments.

Mail is the most dangerous application on any network. Its port (80) is always open and virtually every bug comes into a PC or network via that address. Some clients are doing their mail via virtual drive or Container on their own PCs. Then there is the server solution where mail is isolated through a Hyper-V and user just connect through a web interface. As Hyper-V is not really Windows, its OS is not as susceptible to the standard viruses. (Then of course there are Linux mail servers which are only prone to a very few pieces of malware.) My ISP (Shaw) runs a copy Zimbra which is a web based mail server which can scale up from a simple client system to a huge internet/network Exchange like server (50 million clients or is it messages a day?)...unfortunately it is Linux based. One of the new trends is to host mail services through a Cloud based cluster of client mail boxes. The over all trend is to isolate client mail from any system but these alternatives are either corpora!
 te based or still fledgeling.

Backups are the next most critical point in any system. Cloud based backups are great but in a real catastrophic failure these data sources may become unavailable. To my way of thinking, the best backups are local, varied and continuous. Local; is always faster and accessible. Varied: One; there are a host of synchronization applications out there...when a program or data is changed a backup is kept of the changed information for a defined number of hours...(in the event of disaster, recovery can be time consuming.) Two; a good multiple backup system; daily, with a good range of copies and a high level of password protection (a backup password that is only used for the backup and is encapsulated and automated.). Three; off-site storage...there is no protection against a natural disaster. Four; a good file system design...one that makes client side restore points...but getting clients to do this regularly is difficult.) There is a trending FS called ZFS. For years it has been!
  the domain of servers but now it is becoming a option for all operating systems...even Windows 10. The whole ZFS is designed to guarantee data integrity, with multiple layers of redundancy, auto-restore points, built in encryption for files and directories, expandable across multiple desktops and servers.       

Isolation is one of the best methods to keep malware segregated from the main network. Always isolate the mail system from the companies data. Some network guys keep their mail on a different subnet from the rest of the business. Aside: On one client, I had her mail hosted on a server accessed via a RPD client connection after the fourth time she managed to get her station compromised and the problem disappeared. 

My forte has been to protect a system before it can and does get compromised. You have a great understanding of how to protect a network or PC when to does get compromised. ;-)

Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:41:56 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Win 10 virus protection

Hi Tina,
Disclaimer: we're all very technical people on these lists so my discussion does reflect people that know what they're doing. ;-)

I haven't abandoned Vipre. After being sold/spun off for the third time in about 1/2 dozen years, I expected there may have been some staff drainage at Vipre HQ. But et, I've had no problems with it in my client base. But then I also don't rely on one program to secure my clients. (Layering is a must.) Vipre seems to be better than Bitdefender at blocking the annoying crapware add-ons like conduit based toolbars and such. But Bitdefender had a better solution for preventing ransomware and that is currently the most damaging exploit there is and is only getting worse. All it takes is to click on one email attachment that starts the process and a disaster begins. But even where I am replacing Vipre on PCs, if they have a server Vipre will stay on it. That's two AMs scanning the same files. 

For instance I like to have Vipre and HitmanPro web alert. It seems to be very effective (either that or I have very smart clients) at blocking web born exploits. Also CryptoPrevent is a good product for small businesses to aid in resisting ransomware (and there is a free version.) It coexists nicely with the normal AM like Vipre or BitDefender. And for clients that have gateways with malware scanning support, it is usually Kaspersky or Sophos AM scanners.

No AMs can stop the latest exploits immediately, there's a reaction curve.
The problem is the users. Specifically users being duped into doing something they shouldn't. That is the #1 cause of problems and it's hard to get people to stop clicking on attachments, advertisements, fake update pop-ups etc. So, we try to block all of that stuff. For every solution there is a reaction from the bad guys and the circle continues. I insist on popup blockers in browsers - currently I install AdBlockPlus on all browsers because it is the only free solution I know of that works easily, and supports IE, FF and Chrome. (Most of my client base still have to use IE for some websites.)

Also mail filtering is SO important. Currently mail filters should remove any attachment with embedded javascript as that is the latest attack vector of ransomware exploits. And it needs to strip the, by now, run of the mill fake UPS or FedEx email with the infected attachments that have been duping people for decades.

But the biggest thing people need to have is disconnected backup. Sticking an external drive onto a PC, backing up to it every day and thinking that will save has been outmoded since the inception of ransomware, encrypting exploits. Anything they can get to now, they encrypt, including external devices, mapped and unmapped networks shares, DropBox/OneDrive/GoogleDrive/SugarSync synchronizations folders (and hence their cloud counterparts). Disconnected backup includes the old rotational backups and/or true cloud backup solutions. 

Prevention is much less expensive than reactionary remediation.

I still get a lot of PCs to clean up for people that aren't my RMS clients.
They come in with all sorts of "security" programs installed and mostly ignored. Hence my attitude towards "free" security solutions. They're only free until I have to get the PC ;-)

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar 16 18:33:30 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 17:33:30 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Project Malestrom
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584D3177F21099D2641B334CA890@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <39044457.5290463.1458171210217.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Here is a new sharing application called Project Malestrom:

http://bit.ly/1pMuBSR

It is a personal file sharing system the works across the web. It uses a TOR network which means its sharing performance is only limited by the bandwidth and files of any size can be sent and received. The program is current free but only works of Windows. There is a number of other features that might be useful as well.

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar 16 20:58:36 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 19:58:36 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] OwnCloud version 9
In-Reply-To: <481623390.1303959.1457727795009.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <894122115.5386721.1458179916658.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

PS How to install version 9 of ownCloud on Windows 10 see the following video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hMAv9yQ8A

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:23:15 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] OwnCloud version 9

OwnCloud version 9 is here.

http://bit.ly/1XiPv6M

I have been using OwnCloud for years and find it very useful. I use it for keeping my shared calendar organised, doing some documenting (It is similar to Google docs) but it is better for private messages and of course, sharing family photos. I don't use the mail AP but may in the future. It is a wonderful secure package that trickle-syncs common files across the network and internet, in the background so very little resources are used. It also runs on all Operating Systems. 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar 16 22:09:05 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:09:05 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] OwnCloud version 9
In-Reply-To: <894122115.5386721.1458179916658.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <100736950.5428610.1458184145174.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

...and:

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6y_g5v6CKc

Part3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hMAv9yQ8A

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 6:58:36 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OwnCloud version 9

PS How to install version 9 of ownCloud on Windows 10 see the following video:

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hMAv9yQ8A

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:23:15 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] OwnCloud version 9

OwnCloud version 9 is here.

http://bit.ly/1XiPv6M

I have been using OwnCloud for years and find it very useful. I use it for keeping my shared calendar organised, doing some documenting (It is similar to Google docs) but it is better for private messages and of course, sharing family photos. I don't use the mail AP but may in the future. It is a wonderful secure package that trickle-syncs common files across the network and internet, in the background so very little resources are used. It also runs on all Operating Systems. 

Jim   
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 17 00:20:59 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 23:20:59 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7 users!!??
In-Reply-To: <1457421633.691485339@f365.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <238064111.5513868.1458192059571.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

It appears that Windows 7 users have been having their computers being automatically updates to Windows 10. This is really hard to believe...has anyone else had these problems?

http://bit.ly/1UhzBv8

Jim  

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Mar 17 10:30:58 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:30:58 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
 users!!??
In-Reply-To: <238064111.5513868.1458192059571.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <238064111.5513868.1458192059571.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <56EACDB2.3020909@earthlink.net>

On 3/17/2016 0:20, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> It appears that Windows 7 users have been having their computers being automatically updates to Windows 10. This is really hard to believe...has anyone else had these problems?
>
> http://bit.ly/1UhzBv8

To prevent this M$oft nonsense run 
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. That 
tool found Windows 10 upgrade file downloads on my two Win7 machines.

PB

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Mar 17 12:25:20 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:25:20 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
 users!!??
In-Reply-To: <56EACDB2.3020909@earthlink.net>
References: <238064111.5513868.1458192059571.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<56EACDB2.3020909@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <56EAE880.8090705@torchlake.com>

Thank you, Peter.  I found Windows 10 upgrade files on my computer, too.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 03/17/16 11:30 AM, Peter Brawley wrote:
> On 3/17/2016 0:20, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> It appears that Windows 7 users have been having their computers 
>> being automatically updates to Windows 10. This is really hard to 
>> believe...has anyone else had these problems?
>>
>> http://bit.ly/1UhzBv8
>
> To prevent this M$oft nonsense run 
> http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. That 
> tool found Windows 10 upgrade file downloads on my two Win7 machines.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>
>>
>> Jim
>> _______________________________________________
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Mar 18 08:46:43 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:46:43 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] VM inside out
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hBjvmn6P7PXZjtoBmt89wm=ikn5rAd9sf4pjJxEeVpyw@mail.gmail.com>

I couldn't think of a better description of what I want to try. I only have
two boxes, unfortunately. The one of interest is currently running Windows
10, with a few essentials installed (Office, etc.), and Oracle VirualBox
with a Linux VM. I'm thinking that I'd like to reverse this setup, so that
the native boot-up is Linux and then run Windows 10 as a VirtualBox VM
inside that. I suppose I could do it all from scratch, but I wondered
whether there might be a way to turn the current Windows 10 setup (plus its
installed apps) into a VM; if so, then I could boot from a Linux disc, set
up VirtualBox inside that, and finally install the Windows 10 VM from
there, the result being a clone of my current Windows 10 setup, with no
need to re-install all its apps and data.

Can this be done, or should I just bite the bullet and do it from scratch?

(In the past, I have tried to set up a dual boot on said machine, without
success. For some reason, I just end up in grab, not a dual boot. It's been
a while since I've tried that approach, so things may have improved, but
once bitten twice shy.)

-- 
Arthur

From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Mar 18 08:57:44 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:57:44 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] VM inside out
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584327D011324A083C156C8CA8C0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

You can use the Disk2vhd util here:

https://technet.microsoft.com/da-dk/sysinternals/ee656415

to - from inside Win10 - to create a vhd/vhdx image of your Win10 install.

Then you can use the StarWind V2V converter here:

https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter

to convert to an image format understood by VirtualBox (which I know nothing about).

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 18. marts 2016 14:47
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] VM inside out

I couldn't think of a better description of what I want to try. I only have two boxes, unfortunately. The one of interest is currently running Windows 10, with a few essentials installed (Office, etc.), and Oracle VirualBox with a Linux VM. I'm thinking that I'd like to reverse this setup, so that the native boot-up is Linux and then run Windows 10 as a VirtualBox VM inside that. I suppose I could do it all from scratch, but I wondered whether there might be a way to turn the current Windows 10 setup (plus its installed apps) into a VM; if so, then I could boot from a Linux disc, set up VirtualBox inside that, and finally install the Windows 10 VM from there, the result being a clone of my current Windows 10 setup, with no need to re-install all its apps and data.

Can this be done, or should I just bite the bullet and do it from scratch?

(In the past, I have tried to set up a dual boot on said machine, without success. For some reason, I just end up in grab, not a dual boot. It's been a while since I've tried that approach, so things may have improved, but once bitten twice shy.)

--
Arthur 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Mar 18 10:14:46 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:14:46 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] VM inside out
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584327D011324A083C156C8CA8C0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1584327D011324A083C156C8CA8C0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i_KTugj-VUReQ0F3wNRmrS1+nSrzvvurcx2m0Ww6rAoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks a lot, Gustav. I'll look at these over the weekend.

/Arthur

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> You can use the Disk2vhd util here:
>
> https://technet.microsoft.com/da-dk/sysinternals/ee656415
>
> to - from inside Win10 - to create a vhd/vhdx image of your Win10 install.
>
> Then you can use the StarWind V2V converter here:
>
> https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter
>
> to convert to an image format understood by VirtualBox (which I know
> nothing about).
>
> /gustav
>

From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Mar 18 10:44:46 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:44:46 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] VM inside out
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584BD586E9EF4796F293D20CA8C0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

I browsed a little, and it seems like you can quit both the barbeque and Heinz -- VirtualBox is told to eat the VHD and VHDX formats rare. But again, I have no proof.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 18. marts 2016 16:15
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] VM inside out

Thanks a lot, Gustav. I'll look at these over the weekend.

/Arthur

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Arthur
>
> You can use the Disk2vhd util here:
>
> https://technet.microsoft.com/da-dk/sysinternals/ee656415
>
> to - from inside Win10 - to create a vhd/vhdx image of your Win10 install.
>
> Then you can use the StarWind V2V converter here:
>
> https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter
>
> to convert to an image format understood by VirtualBox (which I know 
> nothing about).
>
> /gustav 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 18 11:44:58 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 10:44:58 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
 users!!??
In-Reply-To: <56EACDB2.3020909@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <145801643.6979975.1458319498222.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Peter:

Thanks for the update and info.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:30:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7 users!!??

On 3/17/2016 0:20, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> It appears that Windows 7 users have been having their computers being automatically updates to Windows 10. This is really hard to believe...has anyone else had these problems?
>
> http://bit.ly/1UhzBv8

To prevent this M$oft nonsense run 
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. That 
tool found Windows 10 upgrade file downloads on my two Win7 machines.

PB

-----


>
> Jim
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From hkotsch at arcor.de  Fri Mar 18 12:21:23 2016
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:21:23 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
	users!!??
In-Reply-To: <145801643.6979975.1458319498222.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <56EACDB2.3020909@earthlink.net>
	<145801643.6979975.1458319498222.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001c01d1813a$9955fa50$cc01eef0$@de>

Microsoft Refutes Reports Of Windows 10 Installing Itself

http://tinyurl.com/zlruwlo

Helmut

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von
Jim Lawrence
Gesendet: Freitag, 18. M?rz 2016 17:45
An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
users!!??

Hi Peter:

Thanks for the update and info.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:30:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
users!!??

On 3/17/2016 0:20, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> It appears that Windows 7 users have been having their computers being
automatically updates to Windows 10. This is really hard to believe...has
anyone else had these problems?
>
> http://bit.ly/1UhzBv8

To prevent this M$oft nonsense run
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. That tool
found Windows 10 upgrade file downloads on my two Win7 machines.

PB

-----


>
> Jim
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Fri Mar 18 12:28:34 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:28:34 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Excel
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAEC6AF4CC09@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Hi

Anyone have an example of a script that would run (batch file) to open and save as excel files as 97-2003 format.

Best wishes
Martin

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Mar 18 14:10:52 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:10:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
 users!!??
In-Reply-To: <001c01d1813a$9955fa50$cc01eef0$@de>
References: <56EACDB2.3020909@earthlink.net>
	<145801643.6979975.1458319498222.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<001c01d1813a$9955fa50$cc01eef0$@de>
Message-ID: <56EC52BC.5080704@earthlink.net>

On 3/18/2016 12:21, Helmut Kotsch wrote:
> Microsoft Refutes Reports Of Windows 10 Installing Itself
>
> http://tinyurl.com/zlruwlo

They denied it, didn't yet refute it.

PB

-----
>
> Helmut
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von
> Jim Lawrence
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. M?rz 2016 17:45
> An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
> users!!??
>
> Hi Peter:
>
> Thanks for the update and info.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:30:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
> users!!??
>
> On 3/17/2016 0:20, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> It appears that Windows 7 users have been having their computers being
> automatically updates to Windows 10. This is really hard to believe...has
> anyone else had these problems?
>> http://bit.ly/1UhzBv8
> To prevent this M$oft nonsense run
> http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. That tool
> found Windows 10 upgrade file downloads on my two Win7 machines.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>
>> Jim
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Mar 18 21:00:50 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:00:50 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: modems and routers
Message-ID: <002601d18183$2a5b7230$7f125690$@gmail.com>

Our modem only handles 150Mps and we're paying for 200 so we need to get a
new one. You can purchase them together now, can't you - one unit that does
the work of both? If so, is there an advantage. Our modem and router are
both really old. 

 

Recommendations? 

 

Susan H. 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 18 22:15:06 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:15:06 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A Raspberry Pi harddrive
In-Reply-To: <894122115.5386721.1458179916658.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <50917438.7489976.1458357306430.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

There is now a Raspberry Pi hard drive built for a Pi version 3, by western digital. Check the following out:

http://bit.ly/1R4FPfL

Now you can actually boot from the drive and maybe support a fairly decent database. Maybe test a MariaDB or a MongoDB with Nodejs?

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 18 22:30:26 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:30:26 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new super browser
In-Reply-To: <894122115.5386721.1458179916658.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1132622980.7503837.1458358226100.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Supposedly Mozilla is creating a super-fast parallel browser.

https://servo.org/

According to a couple of people from Reddit this new browser surpasses all records. I can hardly wait to test it out. :-)

Unfortunately, the beta is not testing on Windows, yet but fully supports Linux and Apple...but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes or less so this is hardly a limitation. ;-)

Jim 

From eptept at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 06:13:27 2016
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 07:13:27 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: modems and routers
In-Reply-To: <002601d18183$2a5b7230$7f125690$@gmail.com>
References: <002601d18183$2a5b7230$7f125690$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpX7sSeMUUXOwzBjNOKUpQpztDm0WEoOw1MGVVdPOZzRkw@mail.gmail.com>

Did you get them through a company, Time Warner, Verizon, Comcast...who is
your internet provider?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Our modem only handles 150Mps and we're paying for 200 so we need to get a
> new one. You can purchase them together now, can't you - one unit that does
> the work of both? If so, is there an advantage. Our modem and router are
> both really old.
>
>
>
> Recommendations?
>
>
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 06:42:13 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 07:42:13 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: modems and routers
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpX7sSeMUUXOwzBjNOKUpQpztDm0WEoOw1MGVVdPOZzRkw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002601d18183$2a5b7230$7f125690$@gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpX7sSeMUUXOwzBjNOKUpQpztDm0WEoOw1MGVVdPOZzRkw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d181d4$622c1100$26843300$@gmail.com>

No, they belong to us outright - bought the from Office Depot I think. 

Susan H. 



Did you get them through a company, Time Warner, Verizon, Comcast...who is
your internet provider?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Our modem only handles 150Mps and we're paying for 200 so we need to 
> get a new one. You can purchase them together now, can't you - one 
> unit that does the work of both? If so, is there an advantage. Our 
> modem and router are both really old.
>
>
>
> Recommendations?
>
>
>
> Susan H.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From eptept at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 06:48:26 2016
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 07:48:26 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: modems and routers
In-Reply-To: <000c01d181d4$622c1100$26843300$@gmail.com>
References: <002601d18183$2a5b7230$7f125690$@gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpX7sSeMUUXOwzBjNOKUpQpztDm0WEoOw1MGVVdPOZzRkw@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01d181d4$622c1100$26843300$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpVwOJ_PCxMWq4BF2h1QoeYeazsGdvn-2pPxLpsyGWGC0w@mail.gmail.com>

The Netgear 3700 sounds like it would fill your needs.  The least one we
bought on our own was LinkSys.  We now have Verizon Fios as a provider and
the modem/router is included in the package.  Any issues with it and they
overnight you a new one but we only have 75 up and down.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, they belong to us outright - bought the from Office Depot I think.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>
> Did you get them through a company, Time Warner, Verizon, Comcast...who is
> your internet provider?
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Our modem only handles 150Mps and we're paying for 200 so we need to
> > get a new one. You can purchase them together now, can't you - one
> > unit that does the work of both? If so, is there an advantage. Our
> > modem and router are both really old.
> >
> >
> >
> > Recommendations?
> >
> >
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
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From eptept at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 08:27:23 2016
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 09:27:23 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new super browser
In-Reply-To: <1132622980.7503837.1458358226100.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <894122115.5386721.1458179916658.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<1132622980.7503837.1458358226100.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpVnjxAQxrbk=6r6egSPxj=wntntg=_DBaG8pqeO+u04sA@mail.gmail.com>

but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes or less so this
is hardly a limitation. ;-)

And how would someone do that who is not familiar with Linux.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Supposedly Mozilla is creating a super-fast parallel browser.
>
> https://servo.org/
>
> According to a couple of people from Reddit this new browser surpasses all
> records. I can hardly wait to test it out. :-)
>
> Unfortunately, the beta is not testing on Windows, yet but fully supports
> Linux and Apple...but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes
> or less so this is hardly a limitation. ;-)
>
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 10:06:39 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 11:06:39 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new super browser
In-Reply-To: <1132622980.7503837.1458358226100.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <894122115.5386721.1458179916658.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<1132622980.7503837.1458358226100.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWGuCa9mufuJUtWzfW_2-zLup0J=OjzGjck9rJVyoMNaUA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes or less so this is hardly a limitation. ;-)
>
> Jim

But of course that is if you know what you are doing AND can get the
files downloaded in less than 10 minutes which most people can't.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Mar 20 22:24:48 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 21:24:48 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Has any looked at CodeEnvy?
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584327D011324A083C156C8CA8C0@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <608565854.8652107.1458530688948.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

There is this product called Codeenvy. On the Google site a single user package is marked as free but I am sure there is an enterprise version as well.

http://bit.ly/1Sc5uCg

It looks very impressive and claims to support around 55 languages, frameworks and databases.

Has anyone looked more closely at this application?

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Mar 20 23:15:06 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:15:06 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
 users!!??
In-Reply-To: <56EC52BC.5080704@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1055220955.8671109.1458533706886.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

That article does leave open some questions. 

Of course it could be that users thinking that they were just installing the usual Tuesday updates were caught-off-guard.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 12:10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7 users!!??

On 3/18/2016 12:21, Helmut Kotsch wrote:
> Microsoft Refutes Reports Of Windows 10 Installing Itself
>
> http://tinyurl.com/zlruwlo

They denied it, didn't yet refute it.

PB

-----
>
> Helmut
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von
> Jim Lawrence
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. M?rz 2016 17:45
> An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
> users!!??
>
> Hi Peter:
>
> Thanks for the update and info.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:30:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is automatically converting Windows 7
> users!!??
>
> On 3/17/2016 0:20, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> It appears that Windows 7 users have been having their computers being
> automatically updates to Windows 10. This is really hard to believe...has
> anyone else had these problems?
>> http://bit.ly/1UhzBv8
> To prevent this M$oft nonsense run
> http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. That tool
> found Windows 10 upgrade file downloads on my two Win7 machines.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>
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From Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com  Mon Mar 21 09:16:10 2016
From: Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com (Zimmer, Michael)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:16:10 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpVwOJ_PCxMWq4BF2h1QoeYeazsGdvn-2pPxLpsyGWGC0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002601d18183$2a5b7230$7f125690$@gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpX7sSeMUUXOwzBjNOKUpQpztDm0WEoOw1MGVVdPOZzRkw@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01d181d4$622c1100$26843300$@gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpVwOJ_PCxMWq4BF2h1QoeYeazsGdvn-2pPxLpsyGWGC0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF68493@sfldmiex022>

Good morning all,

I have a question for the community:

Currently we (at work) are using a MS Access 2007 database as a "sweep" PC which periodically collects data from 17 PCs running on the shop floor.
This sweep PC is connected to the network via Ethernet, however, it seems particularly vulnerable to the little network connectivity "glitches" we experience here.

For example, I came in today and sometime over the weekend there was a momentary loss of network and the sweep database stopped collecting and had to be manually re-started.  Now it is running its access VB code and picking up 3000 records.

Does anyone have a good way for a database to re-acquire the network after a brief outage? This database needs to run unattended.

Thanks,

Mike Zimmer


From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Mar 21 09:43:12 2016
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:43:12 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
In-Reply-To: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF68493@sfldmiex022>
References: <002601d18183$2a5b7230$7f125690$@gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpX7sSeMUUXOwzBjNOKUpQpztDm0WEoOw1MGVVdPOZzRkw@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01d181d4$622c1100$26843300$@gmail.com>
	<CAEkqQpVwOJ_PCxMWq4BF2h1QoeYeazsGdvn-2pPxLpsyGWGC0w@mail.gmail.com>
	<6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF68493@sfldmiex022>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pKWjhquqdz0XaUVAcP8=BKLMAR2ayq-NCxx3dd_Q9QrXA@mail.gmail.com>

Does the database reside on a network drive?  Is is split front end
and back end?

I am wondering if you had a local front end connected to a network
backend and then in between it's sweeps if it could be disconnected
and then reconnect prior to the next sweep process, do it's thing and
then disconnect to the back end which would reside on the network.
If it wasn't able to reconnect an error would come up.  You could then
wait a while and try again.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Zimmer, Michael
<Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com> wrote:
> Good morning all,
>
> I have a question for the community:
>
> Currently we (at work) are using a MS Access 2007 database as a "sweep" PC which periodically collects data from 17 PCs running on the shop floor.
> This sweep PC is connected to the network via Ethernet, however, it seems particularly vulnerable to the little network connectivity "glitches" we experience here.
>
> For example, I came in today and sometime over the weekend there was a momentary loss of network and the sweep database stopped collecting and had to be manually re-started.  Now it is running its access VB code and picking up 3000 records.
>
> Does anyone have a good way for a database to re-acquire the network after a brief outage? This database needs to run unattended.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Zimmer
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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-- 
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garykjos at gmail.com

From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Mar 21 10:36:27 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:36:27 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
Message-ID: <DB5PR06MB1573EEB4C29C7640823EC400CA8F0@DB5PR06MB1573.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Mike

If it stops with a "Disk or Network error" your application is hosed.

There is no workaround for this, so you will have to ask the "notwork guy" to fix the LAN (or rather the switches) for example by configuring Quality-of-Service so at least some bandwidth will be left to service your sweep PC.

If the floor PCs are connected via WiFi, you are in trouble as it is almost impossible to guarantee no glitches. However, with the most modern Access Points from one of the top vendors you can come close.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Zimmer, Michael
Sendt: 21. marts 2016 15:16
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity

Good morning all,

I have a question for the community:

Currently we (at work) are using a MS Access 2007 database as a "sweep" PC which periodically collects data from 17 PCs running on the shop floor.
This sweep PC is connected to the network via Ethernet, however, it seems particularly vulnerable to the little network connectivity "glitches" we experience here.

For example, I came in today and sometime over the weekend there was a momentary loss of network and the sweep database stopped collecting and had to be manually re-started.  Now it is running its access VB code and picking up 3000 records.

Does anyone have a good way for a database to re-acquire the network after a brief outage? This database needs to run unattended.

Thanks,

Mike Zimmer 


From jerbach at gmail.com  Mon Mar 21 10:51:03 2016
From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:51:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
In-Reply-To: <DB5PR06MB1573EEB4C29C7640823EC400CA8F0@DB5PR06MB1573.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB5PR06MB1573EEB4C29C7640823EC400CA8F0@DB5PR06MB1573.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAKhUvEVacmt0ChZ_uNBOKVty6Kddw35jpZ1FfTJvhEx=LncxOA@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav -

I am the unfortunate developer who wrote this sweep app.  I say
'unfortunate' because I'm not sure I'm in a position where I can win with
this.  Originally all the machines out on the shop floor were relying on a
network connection in order to update the backend directly;  but as you
said, GUARANTEED GLITCHES.  So at the advice of this forum, I rewrote the
app so that each shop floor machine uploads a csv file of the data whenever
there's a network connection, and created a 'sweep' app to pull all the
data into the backend.  The floor machines are runninng just fine now as a
result. But...

The 'sweep' machine needs babysitting ALL THE TIME.  If it's not a lost
network connection,  it's windows updates firing off and re-booting the
computer.  And then there's all the times I see the 'Microsoft Access has
stopped responding..." error.

The machine already has a hard wired connection to the network, but it's
right next to the shop floor.  Could EMF interference from the shop floor
still be affecting it?  Could it be network 'brown outs'?  And is there any
way to write, say, a powershell app that could do the babysitting for me?

Janet Erbach

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> If it stops with a "Disk or Network error" your application is hosed.
>
> There is no workaround for this, so you will have to ask the "notwork guy"
> to fix the LAN (or rather the switches) for example by configuring
> Quality-of-Service so at least some bandwidth will be left to service your
> sweep PC.
>
> If the floor PCs are connected via WiFi, you are in trouble as it is
> almost impossible to guarantee no glitches. However, with the most modern
> Access Points from one of the top vendors you can come close.
>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
> Zimmer, Michael
> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 15:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
>
> Good morning all,
>
> I have a question for the community:
>
> Currently we (at work) are using a MS Access 2007 database as a "sweep" PC
> which periodically collects data from 17 PCs running on the shop floor.
> This sweep PC is connected to the network via Ethernet, however, it seems
> particularly vulnerable to the little network connectivity "glitches" we
> experience here.
>
> For example, I came in today and sometime over the weekend there was a
> momentary loss of network and the sweep database stopped collecting and had
> to be manually re-started.  Now it is running its access VB code and
> picking up 3000 records.
>
> Does anyone have a good way for a database to re-acquire the network after
> a brief outage? This database needs to run unattended.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Zimmer
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Mar 21 11:07:22 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:07:22 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
Message-ID: <DB5PR06MB1573D5B1B9528B3904D9F4F5CA8F0@DB5PR06MB1573.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Janet

Oh I see. I thought you connected directly to the databases on the floor machines.

But if you already have a system running with sending CSV files, I think all you need to do is to copy the CSV files to a local drive at the sweep PC. 
A simple batch file could be called by the Task Manager, and the sweep application should be adjusted to pick them up locally and not from the network folder.

Wouldn't that be possible?

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Janet Erbach
Sendt: 21. marts 2016 16:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity

Gustav -

I am the unfortunate developer who wrote this sweep app.  I say 'unfortunate' because I'm not sure I'm in a position where I can win with this.  Originally all the machines out on the shop floor were relying on a network connection in order to update the backend directly;  but as you said, GUARANTEED GLITCHES.  So at the advice of this forum, I rewrote the app so that each shop floor machine uploads a csv file of the data whenever there's a network connection, and created a 'sweep' app to pull all the data into the backend.  The floor machines are runninng just fine now as a result. But...

The 'sweep' machine needs babysitting ALL THE TIME.  If it's not a lost network connection,  it's windows updates firing off and re-booting the computer.  And then there's all the times I see the 'Microsoft Access has stopped responding..." error.

The machine already has a hard wired connection to the network, but it's right next to the shop floor.  Could EMF interference from the shop floor still be affecting it?  Could it be network 'brown outs'?  And is there any way to write, say, a powershell app that could do the babysitting for me?

Janet Erbach

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> If it stops with a "Disk or Network error" your application is hosed.
>
> There is no workaround for this, so you will have to ask the "notwork guy"
> to fix the LAN (or rather the switches) for example by configuring 
> Quality-of-Service so at least some bandwidth will be left to service 
> your sweep PC.
>
> If the floor PCs are connected via WiFi, you are in trouble as it is 
> almost impossible to guarantee no glitches. However, with the most 
> modern Access Points from one of the top vendors you can come close.
>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Zimmer, Michael
> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 15:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
>
> Good morning all,
>
> I have a question for the community:
>
> Currently we (at work) are using a MS Access 2007 database as a 
> "sweep" PC which periodically collects data from 17 PCs running on the shop floor.
> This sweep PC is connected to the network via Ethernet, however, it 
> seems particularly vulnerable to the little network connectivity 
> "glitches" we experience here.
>
> For example, I came in today and sometime over the weekend there was a 
> momentary loss of network and the sweep database stopped collecting 
> and had to be manually re-started.  Now it is running its access VB 
> code and picking up 3000 records.
>
> Does anyone have a good way for a database to re-acquire the network 
> after a brief outage? This database needs to run unattended.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Zimmer 


From jerbach at gmail.com  Mon Mar 21 11:13:22 2016
From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:13:22 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
In-Reply-To: <DB5PR06MB1573D5B1B9528B3904D9F4F5CA8F0@DB5PR06MB1573.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB5PR06MB1573D5B1B9528B3904D9F4F5CA8F0@DB5PR06MB1573.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAKhUvEUCdp-eL3c7dyVnh6N9QXpS4NiMgM_AuPbLzsEH_oqo9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it would!  Sheesh...what's the expression?  If that had been a snake,
it would have bit me??  Thank you, Gustav.  I'll implement that right away.

Janet



On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Janet
>
> Oh I see. I thought you connected directly to the databases on the floor
> machines.
>
> But if you already have a system running with sending CSV files, I think
> all you need to do is to copy the CSV files to a local drive at the sweep
> PC.
> A simple batch file could be called by the Task Manager, and the sweep
> application should be adjusted to pick them up locally and not from the
> network folder.
>
> Wouldn't that be possible?
>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
> Janet Erbach
> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 16:51
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
>
> Gustav -
>
> I am the unfortunate developer who wrote this sweep app.  I say
> 'unfortunate' because I'm not sure I'm in a position where I can win with
> this.  Originally all the machines out on the shop floor were relying on a
> network connection in order to update the backend directly;  but as you
> said, GUARANTEED GLITCHES.  So at the advice of this forum, I rewrote the
> app so that each shop floor machine uploads a csv file of the data whenever
> there's a network connection, and created a 'sweep' app to pull all the
> data into the backend.  The floor machines are runninng just fine now as a
> result. But...
>
> The 'sweep' machine needs babysitting ALL THE TIME.  If it's not a lost
> network connection,  it's windows updates firing off and re-booting the
> computer.  And then there's all the times I see the 'Microsoft Access has
> stopped responding..." error.
>
> The machine already has a hard wired connection to the network, but it's
> right next to the shop floor.  Could EMF interference from the shop floor
> still be affecting it?  Could it be network 'brown outs'?  And is there any
> way to write, say, a powershell app that could do the babysitting for me?
>
> Janet Erbach
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike
> >
> > If it stops with a "Disk or Network error" your application is hosed.
> >
> > There is no workaround for this, so you will have to ask the "notwork
> guy"
> > to fix the LAN (or rather the switches) for example by configuring
> > Quality-of-Service so at least some bandwidth will be left to service
> > your sweep PC.
> >
> > If the floor PCs are connected via WiFi, you are in trouble as it is
> > almost impossible to guarantee no glitches. However, with the most
> > modern Access Points from one of the top vendors you can come close.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
> > af Zimmer, Michael
> > Sendt: 21. marts 2016 15:16
> > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <
> > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Emne: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
> >
> > Good morning all,
> >
> > I have a question for the community:
> >
> > Currently we (at work) are using a MS Access 2007 database as a
> > "sweep" PC which periodically collects data from 17 PCs running on the
> shop floor.
> > This sweep PC is connected to the network via Ethernet, however, it
> > seems particularly vulnerable to the little network connectivity
> > "glitches" we experience here.
> >
> > For example, I came in today and sometime over the weekend there was a
> > momentary loss of network and the sweep database stopped collecting
> > and had to be manually re-started.  Now it is running its access VB
> > code and picking up 3000 records.
> >
> > Does anyone have a good way for a database to re-acquire the network
> > after a brief outage? This database needs to run unattended.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike Zimmer
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Mar 21 14:54:23 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:54:23 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
In-Reply-To: <CAKhUvEVacmt0ChZ_uNBOKVty6Kddw35jpZ1FfTJvhEx=LncxOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DB5PR06MB1573EEB4C29C7640823EC400CA8F0@DB5PR06MB1573.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAKhUvEVacmt0ChZ_uNBOKVty6Kddw35jpZ1FfTJvhEx=LncxOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <048c01d183ab$781b33f0$68519bd0$@winhaven.net>



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:51 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity

Gustav -

I am the unfortunate developer who wrote this sweep app.  I say 'unfortunate' because I'm not sure I'm in a position where I can win with this.  Originally all the machines out on the shop floor were relying on a network connection in order to update the backend directly;  but as you said, GUARANTEED GLITCHES.  So at the advice of this forum, I rewrote the app so that each shop floor machine uploads a csv file of the data whenever there's a network connection, and created a 'sweep' app to pull all the data into the backend.  The floor machines are runninng just fine now as a result. But...

The 'sweep' machine needs babysitting ALL THE TIME.  If it's not a lost network connection,  it's windows updates firing off and re-booting the computer.  And then there's all the times I see the 'Microsoft Access has stopped responding..." error.

The machine already has a hard wired connection to the network, but it's right next to the shop floor.  Could EMF interference from the shop floor still be affecting it?  Could it be network 'brown outs'?  And is there any way to write, say, a powershell app that could do the babysitting for me?

Janet Erbach

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> If it stops with a "Disk or Network error" your application is hosed.
>
> There is no workaround for this, so you will have to ask the "notwork guy"
> to fix the LAN (or rather the switches) for example by configuring 
> Quality-of-Service so at least some bandwidth will be left to service 
> your sweep PC.
>
> If the floor PCs are connected via WiFi, you are in trouble as it is 
> almost impossible to guarantee no glitches. However, with the most 
> modern Access Points from one of the top vendors you can come close.
>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Zimmer, Michael
> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 15:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
>
> Good morning all,
>
> I have a question for the community:
>
> Currently we (at work) are using a MS Access 2007 database as a 
> "sweep" PC which periodically collects data from 17 PCs running on the shop floor.
> This sweep PC is connected to the network via Ethernet, however, it 
> seems particularly vulnerable to the little network connectivity 
> "glitches" we experience here.
>
> For example, I came in today and sometime over the weekend there was a 
> momentary loss of network and the sweep database stopped collecting 
> and had to be manually re-started.  Now it is running its access VB 
> code and picking up 3000 records.
>
> Does anyone have a good way for a database to re-acquire the network 
> after a brief outage? This database needs to run unattended.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Zimmer
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Mar 21 15:14:24 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:14:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
In-Reply-To: <CAKhUvEVacmt0ChZ_uNBOKVty6Kddw35jpZ1FfTJvhEx=LncxOA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAKhUvEVacmt0ChZ_uNBOKVty6Kddw35jpZ1FfTJvhEx=LncxOA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Janet,
A few suggestions:
-I remember your original question and the solution you went with. Gustav already supplemented that idea - kudos to him.

The rest of my suggestions have to the KISS principal. IIRC Steve often refers to it ;-)

-In shop areas the power surges/brownouts are tremendous. Having a Uninterruptable Power Supply (UPS) as the power source for the PCs and network gear should certainly help. I support a machine shop where the UPS on the owner's computer logged almost 1700 engagements (supplementing brownout with battery power or preventing surges) in one year. At $70/UPS and replacing the battery every 3 years it is rather inexpensive. I support another office that has a special (orange) outlet for computers. Nice touch except that it is no more stable than the outlet right next to it. All the PCs there have UPS power sources now and the problems they were having have disappeared.

-Turn Windows Updates to manual. Many of them shouldn't be applied anyway. Unless there is some specific reason for these machines to be connected to the internet they shouldn't be.

-Rebooting the computers shouldn't be a problem with a steady power supply and timed reboots. Set them to reboot using the scheduler and only do it during non-working hours or at worst, between shifts.

-for sure the network wire should not be too close to possible interference sources. I'd try the UPS suggestion first. Relocating the network equipment would be much more of a hassle. Another possibility before rewiring may be isolation channeling for the wiring and isolation panels for the equipment.

Best of luck from the Sovereign State!
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:51 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity

Gustav -

I am the unfortunate developer who wrote this sweep app.  I say 'unfortunate' because I'm not sure I'm in a position where I can win with this.  Originally all the machines out on the shop floor were relying on a network connection in order to update the backend directly;  but as you said, GUARANTEED GLITCHES.  So at the advice of this forum, I rewrote the app so that each shop floor machine uploads a csv file of the data whenever there's a network connection, and created a 'sweep' app to pull all the data into the backend.  The floor machines are runninng just fine now as a result. But...

The 'sweep' machine needs babysitting ALL THE TIME.  If it's not a lost network connection,  it's windows updates firing off and re-booting the computer.  And then there's all the times I see the 'Microsoft Access has stopped responding..." error.

The machine already has a hard wired connection to the network, but it's right next to the shop floor.  Could EMF interference from the shop floor still be affecting it?  Could it be network 'brown outs'?  And is there any way to write, say, a powershell app that could do the babysitting for me?

Janet Erbach

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> If it stops with a "Disk or Network error" your application is hosed.
>
> There is no workaround for this, so you will have to ask the "notwork guy"
> to fix the LAN (or rather the switches) for example by configuring 
> Quality-of-Service so at least some bandwidth will be left to service 
> your sweep PC.
>
> If the floor PCs are connected via WiFi, you are in trouble as it is 
> almost impossible to guarantee no glitches. However, with the most 
> modern Access Points from one of the top vendors you can come close.
>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Zimmer, Michael
> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 15:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: [dba-Tech] re-acquiring network connectivity
>
> Good morning all,
>
> I have a question for the community:
>
> Currently we (at work) are using a MS Access 2007 database as a 
> "sweep" PC which periodically collects data from 17 PCs running on the shop floor.
> This sweep PC is connected to the network via Ethernet, however, it 
> seems particularly vulnerable to the little network connectivity 
> "glitches" we experience here.
>
> For example, I came in today and sometime over the weekend there was a 
> momentary loss of network and the sweep database stopped collecting 
> and had to be manually re-started.  Now it is running its access VB 
> code and picking up 3000 records.
>
> Does anyone have a good way for a database to re-acquire the network 
> after a brief outage? This database needs to run unattended.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Zimmer
>
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Mon Mar 21 18:11:01 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 02:11:01 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Angular_Attack_event?=
Message-ID: <1458601861.341004368@f126.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

Have you seen this announcement - ? angularattack.com ?

I'm currently planning to participate in this event. 
Here is the list of technologies I'm planning to use:

?
- MS Windows (10 Pro and/or Server 2012R Standard),
- IIS (iis.net/)
- VS 2015 Community Edition (visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-community-vs.aspx),
- Git and Github (github.com),
- MongoDB (mongodb.com),
- Express (expressjs.com),
- Angular 2 (angular.io),
- NodeJS (nodejs.org),
- Typescript (typescriptlang.org),
- Bootstrap (getbootstrap.com),
- Jade (HTML - jade-lang.com),
- SASS (sass-lang.com),
- ElasticSearch (elastic.co),
- Yeoman (yeoman.io),
- Gulp (gulpjs.com),
- Bower (bower.io)
- LoopBack (loopback.io),
- .NET Framework (microsoft.com/net),
- Edge.js (tjanczuk.github.io/edge/#/),
- MS SQL Express (microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/sql-server-editions/sql-server-express.aspx),
- Microsoft Access Database Engine 2010 Redistributable (microsoft.com/en-nz/download/details.aspx?id=13255&wa=wsignin1.0)


Do you have any ideas/proposal what tiny web app can be developed (in a form of a throw-away but functional prototype) within 48 hours of Angular Attack hackaton by a team of max 4 members?

I'm currently considering to setup on a hosted VM?the development/runtime environment involving most of the listed above technologies.
I must note I have almost no experience with most of them.

The first template/seed app I"m planning to use is the following? http://www.sitepoint.com/building-recipe-search-site-angular-elasticsearch/ ?.
When it's ready ?(within a couple of weeks hopefully) and is running with its sample data?openrecip.es then I'd plan the next step.

Any ideas and proposals are very welcome!

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 21 21:56:24 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:56:24 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Largest gathering?
In-Reply-To: <1458601861.341004368@f126.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <863010910.9548437.1458615384195.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

...Bernie Sanders Packs Seattle Arena Beyond Capacity...

http://bit.ly/1UgX6VZ

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 21 22:48:42 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 21:48:42 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new super browser
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpVnjxAQxrbk=6r6egSPxj=wntntg=_DBaG8pqeO+u04sA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1387394976.9572975.1458618522359.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

If you are interested I would be happy to give you step by step on how to do that.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Tesiny" <eptept at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:27:23 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes or less so this
is hardly a limitation. ;-)

And how would someone do that who is not familiar with Linux.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Supposedly Mozilla is creating a super-fast parallel browser.
>
> https://servo.org/
>
> According to a couple of people from Reddit this new browser surpasses all
> records. I can hardly wait to test it out. :-)
>
> Unfortunately, the beta is not testing on Windows, yet but fully supports
> Linux and Apple...but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes
> or less so this is hardly a limitation. ;-)
>
> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 21 23:37:19 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 22:37:19 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new super browser
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWGuCa9mufuJUtWzfW_2-zLup0J=OjzGjck9rJVyoMNaUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1618005506.9592525.1458621439195.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Well, that is probably true but I am talking to a tech savvy audience here and most Linux distro ISOs are around 2-3 GB or less. A full boot version of a downloaded ISO of the latest Ubuntu 15.10, on a USB stick is only 2.1 GB.

Of course if your only have access is via a Starbuck's open hotspot or a 56K modem then well... ;-)  

If anyone would like to run up their own copies, I would be pleased to help.
 
Jim

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:06:39 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes or less so this is hardly a limitation. ;-)
>
> Jim

But of course that is if you know what you are doing AND can get the
files downloaded in less than 10 minutes which most people can't.

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From Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com  Tue Mar 22 08:13:33 2016
From: Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com (Zimmer, Michael)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:13:33 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new super browser
In-Reply-To: <1618005506.9592525.1458621439195.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <CAAZtbWGuCa9mufuJUtWzfW_2-zLup0J=OjzGjck9rJVyoMNaUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1618005506.9592525.1458621439195.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF68689@sfldmiex022>

Jim

I would be certainly interested in a copy.  All my work at home is on Linux Mint.  (Windows AND Mac have driven me there!)

Mmmm mint, my favorite flavor.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

Well, that is probably true but I am talking to a tech savvy audience here and most Linux distro ISOs are around 2-3 GB or less. A full boot version of a downloaded ISO of the latest Ubuntu 15.10, on a USB stick is only 2.1 GB.

Of course if your only have access is via a Starbuck's open hotspot or a 56K modem then well... ;-)  

If anyone would like to run up their own copies, I would be pleased to help.
 
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:06:39 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes or less so 
> this is hardly a limitation. ;-)
>
> Jim

But of course that is if you know what you are doing AND can get the files downloaded in less than 10 minutes which most people can't.

--
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar 22 11:06:05 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:06:05 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Assemble your own DVDs
In-Reply-To: <608565854.8652107.1458530688948.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1318031119.9879925.1458662765169.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Here is an excellent Authorizing movie program that will allow anyone to make their own DVDs, with movies, music, photos all assembled into chapters...great for families and friends:

http://www.bombono.org/cgi-bin/wiki/

Screenshots:

http://www.bombono.org/cgi-bin/wiki/Screenshots

Supports all platforms and can be downloaded in a few languages: English, Spanish, Esperanto, Galician, Slovak and Vietnamese...sorry no Danish. (Contributors always welcome.) 

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Mar 22 13:17:50 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:17:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new super browser
In-Reply-To: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF68689@sfldmiex022>
Message-ID: <237018714.9999602.1458670670099.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

You are a man after my own heart.

Debian core, Ubuntu base and add a nice distro, like Mint and what could be better. I always find it thrilling that a desktop has the capability and stability to run any entire company and can scale to a super-computer. When I was a true Windows geek, I always used a server edition, as a desktop, as I have a habit of breaking Microsoft's basic desktops (Windows 10 is no exception). ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Zimmer" <Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:13:33 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

Jim

I would be certainly interested in a copy.  All my work at home is on Linux Mint.  (Windows AND Mac have driven me there!)

Mmmm mint, my favorite flavor.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

Well, that is probably true but I am talking to a tech savvy audience here and most Linux distro ISOs are around 2-3 GB or less. A full boot version of a downloaded ISO of the latest Ubuntu 15.10, on a USB stick is only 2.1 GB.

Of course if your only have access is via a Starbuck's open hotspot or a 56K modem then well... ;-)  

If anyone would like to run up their own copies, I would be pleased to help.
 
Jim

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:06:39 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes or less so 
> this is hardly a limitation. ;-)
>
> Jim

But of course that is if you know what you are doing AND can get the files downloaded in less than 10 minutes which most people can't.

--
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From Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com  Wed Mar 23 08:28:45 2016
From: Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com (Zimmer, Michael)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:28:45 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] A new super browser
In-Reply-To: <237018714.9999602.1458670670099.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF68689@sfldmiex022>
	<237018714.9999602.1458670670099.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF68774@sfldmiex022>

Jim,

You "broke" windows.....I love it!   I must confess that I never thought of using server as a everyday desktop, great idea.  I might try it soon, as the specter of Windows 10 looms over us at work.  

Begin rant:
 I used to like Mac OS, from the Motorola to the PowerPC to Intel, they were handy little PCs because they always worked.  Though they were not easily modified/customized they rarely caused problems and quietly soldiered on.  Now, however, looking at a Mac is like looking at a larger version of a smartphone -- all gloss and apps and very few ways to tweak the OS.  Don't even get me started on the mess that is iPhoto and iTunes!  I think it's really funny that Apple made their bones casting IBM and the PC1 as "big brother" then Microsoft as the "establishment" PC, and now, IMHO, "big brother" lives in Cupertino and controls not only the playback system but the content and delivery systems too!  
End rant.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

You are a man after my own heart.

Debian core, Ubuntu base and add a nice distro, like Mint and what could be better. I always find it thrilling that a desktop has the capability and stability to run any entire company and can scale to a super-computer. When I was a true Windows geek, I always used a server edition, as a desktop, as I have a habit of breaking Microsoft's basic desktops (Windows 10 is no exception). ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Zimmer" <Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:13:33 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

Jim

I would be certainly interested in a copy.  All my work at home is on Linux Mint.  (Windows AND Mac have driven me there!)

Mmmm mint, my favorite flavor.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:37 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

Well, that is probably true but I am talking to a tech savvy audience here and most Linux distro ISOs are around 2-3 GB or less. A full boot version of a downloaded ISO of the latest Ubuntu 15.10, on a USB stick is only 2.1 GB.

Of course if your only have access is via a Starbuck's open hotspot or a 56K modem then well... ;-)  

If anyone would like to run up their own copies, I would be pleased to help.
 
Jim

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:06:39 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new super browser

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> but of course anyone can run up a Linux box in 10 minutes or less so 
> this is hardly a limitation. ;-)
>
> Jim

But of course that is if you know what you are doing AND can get the files downloaded in less than 10 minutes which most people can't.

--
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Mar 23 09:11:36 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 07:11:36 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Blog on Rex Website
Message-ID: <13C0B5779384461D82461B3D379F3C82@HAL9007>

A client who is in the process of creating a commercial product based on the
system I developed for his own business writes:
 


 We are in the final phase of finishing the REX website and Doris is adamant
that we need to include a blog.  Do you agree?

 

 

I responded to him:

 

A blog has two advantages: 1) it creates a community of users who can post
blog entries to your site, respond to the blog posts and exchange
information, and creates the impression of a more reputable product; 2) the
'bots that crawl through your site and are responsible for placement in the
search engines, 'lke' new content.  So a blog may incease your placement in
a search by continuously adding new content to your site.
 
There are two disadvantages: 1) allowing users or other to post comments to
your blog opens you up to criticism, fair or unfair whcih you can control
that by deleting undesreable posts - an ethically questionalbe tactic - or
by not allowing comments or other posts to your blog which degrades its
credibility in the minds of readers; 2) you need to solicit posts or create
posts yourself continuously - a blog on which the last post is already
'stale' impairs your credibility - so it's a job which needs to be attended
to all the time.
 

Any other thoughts on this?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Mar 23 09:31:54 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:31:54 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Getting_started_with_Angular_2=2E0?=
Message-ID: <1458743514.42045294@f94.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

FYI: Here is a lovely introduction to Angular 2.0 by??by Jeremy Foster:

http://tinyurl.com/jjwc59d
? Enjoy!

-- 
???????????? ??????

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Mar 23 12:00:59 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:00:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Assemble your own DVDs
In-Reply-To: <1318031119.9879925.1458662765169.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <608565854.8652107.1458530688948.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<1318031119.9879925.1458662765169.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <09c401d18525$93d0e4c0$bb72ae40$@winhaven.net>

Jim,
 I was excited about this post because I though "finally, an open source
program to do this!"

Not.
:-(

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:06 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Assemble your own DVDs

Hi All:

Here is an excellent Authorizing movie program that will allow anyone to
make their own DVDs, with movies, music, photos all assembled into
chapters...great for families and friends:

http://www.bombono.org/cgi-bin/wiki/

Screenshots:

http://www.bombono.org/cgi-bin/wiki/Screenshots

Supports all platforms and can be downloaded in a few languages: English,
Spanish, Esperanto, Galician, Slovak and Vietnamese...sorry no Danish.
(Contributors always welcome.) 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Mar 23 12:11:06 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:11:06 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting started with Angular 2.0
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1584FC93462F81FA4AEE59D4CA810@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

Thanks. A true intro ? the absolute minimum.

/gustav

Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 23. marts 2016 15:32
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Getting started with Angular 2.0

Hi All --

FYI: Here is a lovely introduction to Angular 2.0 by  by Jeremy Foster:

http://tinyurl.com/jjwc59d
  Enjoy!

--
???????????? ??????


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar 23 13:12:12 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:12:12 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting started with Angular 2.0
In-Reply-To: <1458743514.42045294@f94.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <1365655135.10897971.1458756732584.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

An excellent Angular introduction video for my podcast reference library. :-)

Thanks

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:31:54 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting started with Angular 2.0

 Hi All --

FYI: Here is a lovely introduction to Angular 2.0 by??by Jeremy Foster:

http://tinyurl.com/jjwc59d
? Enjoy!

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Mar 23 13:25:07 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:25:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Assemble your own DVDs
In-Reply-To: <09c401d18525$93d0e4c0$bb72ae40$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <8036063.10910873.1458757507692.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

I have not done a lot of investigating on the particulars of the Open Source content but if you are interested you could go to:

https://github.com/muravjov/bombono-dvd

and click on the button (upper right corner) that says "download ZIP".

HTH
Jim

PS if you decided to go this route make sure you have downloaded either the free (limited time) Visual Studio, Visual Studio Code or any decent free C compiler (there are a number of good ones out there). If you decide to dabble I would be interested in any discoveries you may happen to make.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:00:59 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Assemble your own DVDs

Jim,
 I was excited about this post because I though "finally, an open source
program to do this!"

Not.
:-(

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:06 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Assemble your own DVDs

Hi All:

Here is an excellent Authorizing movie program that will allow anyone to
make their own DVDs, with movies, music, photos all assembled into
chapters...great for families and friends:

http://www.bombono.org/cgi-bin/wiki/

Screenshots:

http://www.bombono.org/cgi-bin/wiki/Screenshots

Supports all platforms and can be downloaded in a few languages: English,
Spanish, Esperanto, Galician, Slovak and Vietnamese...sorry no Danish.
(Contributors always welcome.) 

Jim 
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Mar 24 05:42:34 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:42:34 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Getting_started_with_Angular_2=2E0?=
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1584FC93462F81FA4AEE59D4CA810@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1584FC93462F81FA4AEE59D4CA810@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1458816154.585005888@f374.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

Yes, absolute minimum, but IMO informative enough and very tempting to try Angular 2 in action ASAP ;)

-- Shamil

>Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:11 PM +03:00 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>Thanks. A true intro ? the absolute minimum.
>
>/gustav
>
>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: 23. marts 2016 15:32
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: [dba-Tech] Getting started with Angular 2.0
>
>Hi All --
>
>FYI: Here is a lovely introduction to Angular 2.0 by  by Jeremy Foster:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/jjwc59d
>??Enjoy!
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Mar 24 19:33:45 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:33:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
Message-ID: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>

I have a Dell book that almost can't load web pages anymore - it's just
terminally slow. I guess it needs a tune up or something. L It's running
Vipre and I use Malwarebytes on it occasionally. I don't know what version
of IE it's using and that might be the problem. It's Windows 7 and it might
be set to not update automatically and the dh uses it, not me, so he never
updates anything. I'm going to run through all the updates and go from
there. Beyond that, any suggestions? 

 

Susan H. 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Mar 24 19:38:04 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:38:04 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
References: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <024215256B5046B8960C6E6F08E4E4E9@HAL9007>

When mine seems to slow down, I take a look at the task manager and see if
there's a process running that's sucking up a lot of CPU.  Most of the time
there is.  But be sure to 'show processes from all users'.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 5:34 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up

I have a Dell book that almost can't load web pages anymore - it's just
terminally slow. I guess it needs a tune up or something. L It's running
Vipre and I use Malwarebytes on it occasionally. I don't know what version
of IE it's using and that might be the problem. It's Windows 7 and it might
be set to not update automatically and the dh uses it, not me, so he never
updates anything. I'm going to run through all the updates and go from
there. Beyond that, any suggestions? 

 

Susan H. 

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From df.waters at outlook.com  Thu Mar 24 20:17:56 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:17:56 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
References: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS1944F8FEA1240D9A9A5726F6830@phx.gbl>

Hi Susan,

Make sure you have sufficient hard drive space for the updates before that
gets started.
1) Download a free program named TreeSize (free version).  You can use this
to show a sort of all the folders on your drive in order of size.  This
gives you an idea of what might be taking up all your hard drive space, and
where it makes sense to look first.

2) If you're using a hard drive you can defrag it.  If it's an SSD then
don't.  An SSD would be 2 - 3 times faster than a hard drive.
3) Clean the registry if you haven't for a while.
4) Download a copy of CCleaner.  This has a number of good utilities
(including registry cleaning).  My favorite is that you can set this to run
every time you turn on the PC so that CCleaner will remove all the junk that
you've collected (especially cookies). (you can whitelist certain locations
if you want)

BOL!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 7:34 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up

I have a Dell book that almost can't load web pages anymore - it's just
terminally slow. I guess it needs a tune up or something. L It's running
Vipre and I use Malwarebytes on it occasionally. I don't know what version
of IE it's using and that might be the problem. It's Windows 7 and it might
be set to not update automatically and the dh uses it, not me, so he never
updates anything. I'm going to run through all the updates and go from
there. Beyond that, any suggestions? 

 

Susan H. 

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Mar 24 20:26:32 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 21:26:32 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-DS1944F8FEA1240D9A9A5726F6830@phx.gbl>
References: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
	<BLU176-DS1944F8FEA1240D9A9A5726F6830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i+ftnG0XHxmEV-SR-k1OECCVJf7M1BQWGSVcv40fxvWA@mail.gmail.com>

I know almost nothing about SSD drives, including whether or not my boxes
can support one such. What does it fit into? a) on a laptop, and b) on a
tower? I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and have no idea whether it can handle
an SSD drive. What sort of port am I looking for?

Arthur
?

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Mar 24 21:13:45 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:13:45 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1i+ftnG0XHxmEV-SR-k1OECCVJf7M1BQWGSVcv40fxvWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com><BLU176-DS1944F8FEA1240D9A9A5726F6830@phx.gbl>
	<CAEPJO1i+ftnG0XHxmEV-SR-k1OECCVJf7M1BQWGSVcv40fxvWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9716A6AFE08D41B7987DE81CDD9AE9B0@HAL9007>

I upgraded my primary box to an SSD a few months ago.  It was pretty easy - the hardware mounted in an empty bay and I had to fiddle with the bios to make the SSD Drive C:.  

There were a few software challenges but not with the SSD itself an downloading and configuring an OS and reloading all of the software I needed and the drivers to make the peripherals work - work but not rocket surgery.  

It's faster than a spotted dawg.  You'll love it.  Mine's 250GB - enough for everything I need.  The old rotating primary is still in the box as drive D: but I haven't needed anything on it for a long time. But having it there means I could transfer all my old data and docs easily. 

You'll love it.  And they're  pretty cheap now too.

r

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:27 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] clean up

I know almost nothing about SSD drives, including whether or not my boxes can support one such. What does it fit into? a) on a laptop, and b) on a tower? I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and have no idea whether it can handle an SSD drive. What sort of port am I looking for?

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Mar 24 21:53:50 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 21:53:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
References: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56F4A83E.1030400@earthlink.net>

On 3/24/2016 19:33, Susan Harkins wrote:
> I have a Dell book that almost can't load web pages anymore - it's just
> terminally slow. I guess it needs a tune up or something. L It's running
> Vipre and I use Malwarebytes on it occasionally. I don't know what version
> of IE it's using and that might be the problem. It's Windows 7 and it might
> be set to not update automatically and the dh uses it, not me, so he never
> updates anything. I'm going to run through all the updates and go from
> there. Beyond that, any suggestions?

A lot of Win7 laptops were delivered with 4G of RAM. Win7 can quickly 
get to swapping with that little RAM. Microsoft ReadyBoost may help if 
the machine won't accept more RAM, or you may need a new laptop.

IE before 11 is a pig, can't imagine a reason to use it. Chrome & FF are 
way better.

What's a "dh"?

PB

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>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Mar 24 22:09:55 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 23:09:55 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <56F4A83E.1030400@earthlink.net>
References: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
	<56F4A83E.1030400@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001501d18643$cef1f7f0$6cd5e7d0$@gmail.com>

A new laptop is definitely on the list. :) Until then, might as well clean
it up the best I can, but it is much slower than it used to be. I don't know
if it's the system or just the advanced graphics and crap most sites now
employ. DH stands for dear husband and getting him to switch from IE to
Chrome would be close to impossible. He's old... he doesn't like change.
I've tried... ;) It's still running Windows 7 because Windows 10 will make
him insane. I like him to much to force that on him, but I have warned him
that it's inevitable.  

Susan H. 

A lot of Win7 laptops were delivered with 4G of RAM. Win7 can quickly get to
swapping with that little RAM. Microsoft ReadyBoost may help if the machine
won't accept more RAM, or you may need a new laptop.

IE before 11 is a pig, can't imagine a reason to use it. Chrome & FF are way
better.

What's a "dh"?

PB

-----


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>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Mar 25 03:40:28 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:40:28 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15847451BB637CD469A4C43CCA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

SSD drives come in the normal 2?? form factor with SATA-600 or -300 interface.
They are in every practical way a direct replacement for spinning drives.

They also come in special or newer form factors like mSATA, not used by spinning drives, but these are for laptops and pads.

/gustav


Fra: Arthur Fuller<mailto:fuller.artful at gmail.com>
Sendt: 25. marts 2016 02:27
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] clean up

I know almost nothing about SSD drives, including whether or not my boxes
can support one such. What does it fit into? a) on a laptop, and b) on a
tower? I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and have no idea whether it can handle
an SSD drive. What sort of port am I looking for?

Arthur


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Mar 25 03:41:39 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:41:39 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

Bite the bullet an upgrade to Windows 10. I have yet to see a machine ? even 10 years old ? that didn?t run faster and better with Windows 10. The only ?bump? you should pass is a minimum ram of 2 GB for 32-bit and 4 GB for 64-bit Windows. And ? for very old machines with graphic chips not supported any longer by Windows ? make sure a graphics driver for at least Windows Vista exists.

Of course, as already mentioned, can you manage to replace the main drive with an SSD, do that. It is like having a new machine.

In fact, the combo of SSD and the fast start of Windows 10 makes a computer act like you always have meant it to operate: Go to it, turn it on, and in a few seconds you are ready to work. Gone are the days where you could sit and wait two, three, five minutes for the machine to boot.

/gustav

Fra: Susan Harkins<mailto:ssharkins at gmail.com>
Sendt: 25. marts 2016 04:09
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] clean up

A new laptop is definitely on the list. :) Until then, might as well clean
it up the best I can, but it is much slower than it used to be. I don't know
if it's the system or just the advanced graphics and crap most sites now
employ. DH stands for dear husband and getting him to switch from IE to
Chrome would be close to impossible. He's old... he doesn't like change.
I've tried... ;) It's still running Windows 7 because Windows 10 will make
him insane. I like him to much to force that on him, but I have warned him
that it's inevitable.

Susan H.


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Mar 25 09:15:00 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:15:00 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jCLSJREukhW10--ShCEBFHo8T7hFgEDTcQ2O-feo5SBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Susan,

I'm most definitely with Gustav on upgrading the system to Windows 10.
Whenever I see a message here indicating that its author is holding out on
Windows 7, I shake my head. Win 10 is way better and way faster, and Edge
(its replacement for IE) is faster and cleaner than IE ever was, even in
its dreams.

Arthur
?

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Mar 25 09:51:50 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:51:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <001501d18643$cef1f7f0$6cd5e7d0$@gmail.com>
References: <000701d1862d$fe22aa30$fa67fe90$@gmail.com>
	<56F4A83E.1030400@earthlink.net>
	<001501d18643$cef1f7f0$6cd5e7d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56F55086.8090704@earthlink.net>

On 3/24/2016 22:09, Susan Harkins wrote:
> A new laptop is definitely on the list. :) Until then, might as well clean
> it up the best I can, but it is much slower than it used to be. I don't know
> if it's the system or just the advanced graphics and crap most sites now
> employ.

Mostly browser slowness, you mean. A lot of that will be Flash crap. 
FlashControl solves that for FF, Chrome and IE, I ween.

PB

> DH stands for dear husband and getting him to switch from IE to
> Chrome would be close to impossible. He's old... he doesn't like change.
> I've tried... ;) It's still running Windows 7 because Windows 10 will make
> him insane. I like him to much to force that on him, but I have warned him
> that it's inevitable.
>
> Susan H.
>
> A lot of Win7 laptops were delivered with 4G of RAM. Win7 can quickly get to
> swapping with that little RAM. Microsoft ReadyBoost may help if the machine
> won't accept more RAM, or you may need a new laptop.
>
> IE before 11 is a pig, can't imagine a reason to use it. Chrome & FF are way
> better.
>
> What's a "dh"?
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>
>>    
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Mar 25 10:34:08 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:34:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jCLSJREukhW10--ShCEBFHo8T7hFgEDTcQ2O-feo5SBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAEPJO1jCLSJREukhW10--ShCEBFHo8T7hFgEDTcQ2O-feo5SBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56F55A70.1070803@earthlink.net>

On 3/25/2016 9:15, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Susan,
>
> I'm most definitely with Gustav on upgrading the system to Windows 10.
> Whenever I see a message here indicating that its author is holding out on
> Windows 7, I shake my head. Win 10 is way better and way faster,

Win10 boots up faster, power management is better, but: it's positivel 
polluted with advertising and chockablock full of crapware, looks 
designed to encourage commercial clicks and use of paid M$oft services; 
whether you like tiling on a non-touch screen will have a lot to do with 
how well you like the overall interface and how well you like ribbon 
menus (they drive me bananas; updates are unconfigurably automatic 
(acknowledging that Windows remains insecure for the foreseeable 
future); the Start menu is hard to customise; and security is even more 
corporate-baroque.
>   and Edge
> (its replacement for IE) is faster and cleaner than IE ever was, even in
> its dreams.

Edge has many unpleasant issues ...

- https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083635
- many features that many users count on are missing, awkward or 
inadequate ... address bar, extensions (you like Lastpass and 
Flashcontrol? Too bad), interface customisation, PDFs not handled 
correctly, convenient search engine switch, does not display protocols, 
tab history, right-click search with your choice of engine instead of 
Bling, sorry Bing.

PB

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From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Fri Mar 25 11:03:51 2016
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 16:03:51 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <56F55A70.1070803@earthlink.net>
References: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAEPJO1jCLSJREukhW10--ShCEBFHo8T7hFgEDTcQ2O-feo5SBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<56F55A70.1070803@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA862A25826@PWGSMSLIVMBS09.mail.aig.net>

Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) helps immensely to get away from the dreaded tiles, and once you've changed a whole bunch of privacy settings (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2971725/windows/how-to-reclaim-your-privacy-in-windows-10-piece-by-piece.html) it feels better. Not much you can do about automatic updates, except fool Windows into thinking you are on a metered connection, which stops all updates.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:34 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] clean up

On 3/25/2016 9:15, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Susan,
>
> I'm most definitely with Gustav on upgrading the system to Windows 10.
> Whenever I see a message here indicating that its author is holding 
> out on Windows 7, I shake my head. Win 10 is way better and way 
> faster,

Win10 boots up faster, power management is better, but: it's positivel polluted with advertising and chockablock full of crapware, looks designed to encourage commercial clicks and use of paid M$oft services; whether you like tiling on a non-touch screen will have a lot to do with how well you like the overall interface and how well you like ribbon menus (they drive me bananas; updates are unconfigurably automatic (acknowledging that Windows remains insecure for the foreseeable future); the Start menu is hard to customise; and security is even more corporate-baroque.
>   and Edge
> (its replacement for IE) is faster and cleaner than IE ever was, even 
> in its dreams.

Edge has many unpleasant issues ...

- https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083635
- many features that many users count on are missing, awkward or inadequate ... address bar, extensions (you like Lastpass and Flashcontrol? Too bad), interface customisation, PDFs not handled correctly, convenient search engine switch, does not display protocols, tab history, right-click search with your choice of engine instead of Bling, sorry Bing.

PB

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 25 11:11:35 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:11:35 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A router on a Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <8036063.10910873.1458757507692.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1067778942.12469115.1458922295019.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

It is amazing what cn be crammed on a Raspberry PI...now a full capacity router. I can not imagine stellar performance as there is only one network connection and four USB plugs with no more than 100MBit rate. OTOH, for a absolute super price and as a great learning tool...

http://www.ipfire.org/

...and:

http://www.tecmint.com/install-ipfire-firewall-distribution/

PS the product supports multiple (spoken) languages
 
Jim

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Mar 25 11:12:59 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:12:59 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA862A25826@PWGSMSLIVMBS09.mail.aig.net>
References: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAEPJO1jCLSJREukhW10--ShCEBFHo8T7hFgEDTcQ2O-feo5SBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<56F55A70.1070803@earthlink.net>
	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA862A25826@PWGSMSLIVMBS09.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <56F5638B.9010100@earthlink.net>

On 3/25/2016 11:03, Heenan, Lambert wrote:
> Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) helps immensely to get away from the dreaded tiles, and once you've changed a whole bunch of privacy settings (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2971725/windows/how-to-reclaim-your-privacy-in-windows-10-piece-by-piece.html) it feels better. Not much you can do about automatic updates, except fool Windows into thinking you are on a metered connection, which stops all updates.
>
> Lambert

Lambert, thanks!

PB


>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:34 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] clean up
>
> On 3/25/2016 9:15, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>> Susan,
>>
>> I'm most definitely with Gustav on upgrading the system to Windows 10.
>> Whenever I see a message here indicating that its author is holding
>> out on Windows 7, I shake my head. Win 10 is way better and way
>> faster,
> Win10 boots up faster, power management is better, but: it's positivel polluted with advertising and chockablock full of crapware, looks designed to encourage commercial clicks and use of paid M$oft services; whether you like tiling on a non-touch screen will have a lot to do with how well you like the overall interface and how well you like ribbon menus (they drive me bananas; updates are unconfigurably automatic (acknowledging that Windows remains insecure for the foreseeable future); the Start menu is hard to customise; and security is even more corporate-baroque.
>>    and Edge
>> (its replacement for IE) is faster and cleaner than IE ever was, even
>> in its dreams.
> Edge has many unpleasant issues ...
>
> - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083635
> - many features that many users count on are missing, awkward or inadequate ... address bar, extensions (you like Lastpass and Flashcontrol? Too bad), interface customisation, PDFs not handled correctly, convenient search engine switch, does not display protocols, tab history, right-click search with your choice of engine instead of Bling, sorry Bing.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
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>> ?
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 25 11:20:03 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:20:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A tracking application
In-Reply-To: <8036063.10910873.1458757507692.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <19690961.12476187.1458922803029.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

If anyone has wanted a tracking application where they own both the client and server this might be the product for you.

https://www.traccar.org/

...And to see how it works:

https://www.traccar.org/quick-start/

It runs on all platforms and is fully Open Source.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 25 12:13:31 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:13:31 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] In the animation industry
In-Reply-To: <8036063.10910873.1458757507692.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <2132262737.12515964.1458926011212.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Within the animation industry a huge announcement. The Toonz is going open source. It is not a product known to most people outside the industry or even within the industry but it is a 2D movie making application that can make full-feature movies:

http://www.toonzpremium.com/

...And below is a video and an article on the release information:

http://bit.ly/22KUz7D and http://bit.ly/1RqhMEE

The program is used extensively by Studio Ghibli, arguably the greatest animators in the world, so the application could achieve no higher praise. The actual date of the open download has not been announced but soon... 

Jim  

From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Fri Mar 25 12:26:51 2016
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:26:51 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <56F5638B.9010100@earthlink.net>
References: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAEPJO1jCLSJREukhW10--ShCEBFHo8T7hFgEDTcQ2O-feo5SBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<56F55A70.1070803@earthlink.net>
	<D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA862A25826@PWGSMSLIVMBS09.mail.aig.net>
	<56F5638B.9010100@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <D2D5A45EB26EC34F8199762DC40FFAA862A25924@PWGSMSLIVMBS09.mail.aig.net>

Thanks.

BTW, I've recently taken to using Opera as a browser. Gave up on Chrome because it just sits there for ever, consuming 100s of megabytes. But Firefox has primitive Prnt Preview. Opera's looks exactly like the Chome preview window.  

Just a little something that bugged me about FF.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:13 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] clean up

On 3/25/2016 11:03, Heenan, Lambert wrote:
> Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) helps immensely to get away from the dreaded tiles, and once you've changed a whole bunch of privacy settings (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2971725/windows/how-to-reclaim-your-privacy-in-windows-10-piece-by-piece.html) it feels better. Not much you can do about automatic updates, except fool Windows into thinking you are on a metered connection, which stops all updates.
>
> Lambert

Lambert, thanks!

PB


>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of Peter Brawley
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:34 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] clean up
>
> On 3/25/2016 9:15, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>> Susan,
>>
>> I'm most definitely with Gustav on upgrading the system to Windows 10.
>> Whenever I see a message here indicating that its author is holding 
>> out on Windows 7, I shake my head. Win 10 is way better and way 
>> faster,
> Win10 boots up faster, power management is better, but: it's positivel polluted with advertising and chockablock full of crapware, looks designed to encourage commercial clicks and use of paid M$oft services; whether you like tiling on a non-touch screen will have a lot to do with how well you like the overall interface and how well you like ribbon menus (they drive me bananas; updates are unconfigurably automatic (acknowledging that Windows remains insecure for the foreseeable future); the Start menu is hard to customise; and security is even more corporate-baroque.
>>    and Edge
>> (its replacement for IE) is faster and cleaner than IE ever was, even 
>> in its dreams.
> Edge has many unpleasant issues ...
>
> - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083635
> - many features that many users count on are missing, awkward or inadequate ... address bar, extensions (you like Lastpass and Flashcontrol? Too bad), interface customisation, PDFs not handled correctly, convenient search engine switch, does not display protocols, tab history, right-click search with your choice of engine instead of Bling, sorry Bing.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> Arthur
>> ?
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Mar 26 15:10:34 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:10:34 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 7 Task Scheduler not working as expected
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+eLrAbYWRYAu6sWHU02-eFvigsUjQ3ZWvWfRqyukCTLUw@mail.gmail.com>

I created an event using the Task Scheduler. I want it to display a message
at 4:00 pm every afternoon. I did everything I know to do, but it isn't
working. Any clues?

Susan H.

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Mar 27 18:32:00 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:32:00 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] clean up
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15845C7D6BB591F0D07BEE57CA830@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <004c01d18880$dcf09200$96d1b600$@gmail.com>

Everything's caught up and running better, but still slow. We haven't updated to Windows 10, but he's thinking about it. 

I think there's more to the performance that the system. First, web sites have changed a lot just in the last few years -- there are so full of graphics, ads, and all kinds of crap -- they just take longer to load. Second, our router's old. It's 150 and we have 200mps download, but even I'm not seeing 150 with my system. 

The system needed a tune up anyway and he says it's running better. Thanks everyone for your help. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Bite the bullet an upgrade to Windows 10. I have yet to see a machine ? even 10 years old ? that didn?t run faster and better with Windows 10. The only ?bump? you should pass is a minimum ram of 2 GB for 32-bit and 4 GB for 64-bit Windows. And ? for very old machines with graphic chips not supported any longer by Windows ? make sure a graphics driver for at least Windows Vista exists.





From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Mar 28 19:56:27 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:56:27 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>

Is there some simple way to take a chunk of music from a CD, say, and turn
it into a ring tone for my phone? In case it matters, my phone runs Android.

-- 
Arthur

From df.waters at outlook.com  Mon Mar 28 20:40:24 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:40:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl>

I have a MS phone - it did include instructions on how to do this.

However, it just said that I had to get a file with a 'chunk of music'.
Some audio handling application would probably do it.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
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Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:56 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones

Is there some simple way to take a chunk of music from a CD, say, and turn
it into a ring tone for my phone? In case it matters, my phone runs Android.

--
Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Mar 28 20:44:52 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:44:52 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>

Audacity will do that.  Clip, cut and paste.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:40 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones

I have a MS phone - it did include instructions on how to do this.

However, it just said that I had to get a file with a 'chunk of music'.
Some audio handling application would probably do it.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:56 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones

Is there some simple way to take a chunk of music from a CD, say, and turn
it into a ring tone for my phone? In case it matters, my phone runs Android.

--
Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar 29 04:38:20 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:38:20 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] New TypeScript site
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15845F40EA1C808DC245293FCA870@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

A new site with much better promoting of the language and how to step up from JavaScript is on-line:

    http://www.typescriptlang.org

/gustav

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 05:16:19 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:16:19 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl>
	<BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds good, Rocky. But, ignorant as I am, I'm guessing that I install
Audacity on my notebook and then locate the MP3 I want to snip, then cut,
and finally paste -- into what? Another MP3? And then how do I get that MP3
onto my phone?

I apologize for such simple questions, but I'm back in the dark ages. I
only recently got a smart phone and have yet to do anything with it other
than make and receive phone calls. In fact, I've never even sent or
received text!

A.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:

> Audacity will do that.  Clip, cut and paste.

From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar 29 05:17:04 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:17:04 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Visual Studio Code
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB158466625B5B454AAA8F3C2ECA870@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

Are you aware of the free open-source, cross-platform, light-weight code editor: Visual Studio Code?

It's a great replacement for the various "extended" notepads, even Visual Studio itself in some cases, and indeed when you wish to work with only one or few files and don't want to roll up a full VS project.

A brief intro is here:

    http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/1083724/Get-started-with-Visual-Studio-Code

and the application itself is here:

    https://code.visualstudio.com/

Note the many extensions - even C# is an extension (but just load a C# file and VSC will by itself suggest to download and install the extension). 

/gustav 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 06:12:12 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 07:12:12 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] New TypeScript site
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15845F40EA1C808DC245293FCA870@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15845F40EA1C808DC245293FCA870@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gsU8o6Z4zrOmokB_0eL9VY-rJLb2xX5T8wAVLfH71cQw@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

Thanks for the link. Site looks great!

/Arthur

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> A new site with much better promoting of the language and how to step up
> from JavaScript is on-line:
>
>     http://www.typescriptlang.org
>
> /gustav

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Mar 29 08:58:43 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:58:43 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com><BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl><BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C41CBCAAAF3848CDB98F187D18FE56BF@HAL9007>

Audacity is a free download and is quite intuitive.  So I don't think you'll
have a problem creating the mp3 snip you want from your original mp3 file.
But how you get the edited mp3 onto your phone, I don't know.  In fact, let
me know if you figure it out. I'm going to put it on most 'medium range
to-do' list myself.  Could be a lot of fun.  I'm thinking of snips from some
of my favorite Bugs Bunny characters - Yosemite Sam and Foghorn Leghorn come
to mind. :)

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:16 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones

Sounds good, Rocky. But, ignorant as I am, I'm guessing that I install
Audacity on my notebook and then locate the MP3 I want to snip, then cut,
and finally paste -- into what? Another MP3? And then how do I get that MP3
onto my phone?

I apologize for such simple questions, but I'm back in the dark ages. I only
recently got a smart phone and have yet to do anything with it other than
make and receive phone calls. In fact, I've never even sent or received
text!

A.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:

> Audacity will do that.  Clip, cut and paste.
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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Tue Mar 29 09:18:37 2016
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:18:37 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <C41CBCAAAF3848CDB98F187D18FE56BF@HAL9007>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>
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If you have a USB lead for your smart phone, should be a case of plugging
it into your PC/laptop and copying the file across

On 29 March 2016 at 14:58, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

> Audacity is a free download and is quite intuitive.  So I don't think
> you'll
> have a problem creating the mp3 snip you want from your original mp3 file.
> But how you get the edited mp3 onto your phone, I don't know.  In fact, let
> me know if you figure it out. I'm going to put it on most 'medium range
> to-do' list myself.  Could be a lot of fun.  I'm thinking of snips from
> some
> of my favorite Bugs Bunny characters - Yosemite Sam and Foghorn Leghorn
> come
> to mind. :)
>
> r
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:16 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
>
> Sounds good, Rocky. But, ignorant as I am, I'm guessing that I install
> Audacity on my notebook and then locate the MP3 I want to snip, then cut,
> and finally paste -- into what? Another MP3? And then how do I get that MP3
> onto my phone?
>
> I apologize for such simple questions, but I'm back in the dark ages. I
> only
> recently got a smart phone and have yet to do anything with it other than
> make and receive phone calls. In fact, I've never even sent or received
> text!
>
> A.
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Audacity will do that.  Clip, cut and paste.
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-- 
Paul Hartland
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 29 09:22:32 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:22:32 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl>
	<BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56FA8FA8.9070605@earthlink.net>

On 3/29/2016 5:16, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Sounds good, Rocky. But, ignorant as I am, I'm guessing that I install
> Audacity on my notebook and then locate the MP3 I want to snip, then cut,
> and finally paste -- into what? Another MP3? And then how do I get that MP3
> onto my phone?

Download install & run Audacity. Use it to open the desired music file. 
You'll see two visual tracks. Spread the app window to near screen 
width, then press Ctrl-1 repeatedly till the whole music file fits in 
the window. Play segments of interest. Select the portions you wish to 
delete and delete them then File/Export the result, or simply select the 
desired bit then File/Export Selection, to the desired .mp3 file. If 
Audacity complains it it missing a "lame*.dll", let it dowload & install 
it for you.

PB

-----

>
> I apologize for such simple questions, but I'm back in the dark ages. I
> only recently got a smart phone and have yet to do anything with it other
> than make and receive phone calls. In fact, I've never even sent or
> received text!
>
> A.
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Audacity will do that.  Clip, cut and paste.
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From eptept at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 09:48:42 2016
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:48:42 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl>
	<BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpUFiFjHh4CLMLfXa1AUb5P4y1T5x=8H9hp6ZrgZm-iYEw@mail.gmail.com>

I assume your getting your email on the phone, send the mp3 to yourself as
an attachment.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 6:16 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sounds good, Rocky. But, ignorant as I am, I'm guessing that I install
> Audacity on my notebook and then locate the MP3 I want to snip, then cut,
> and finally paste -- into what? Another MP3? And then how do I get that MP3
> onto my phone?
>
> I apologize for such simple questions, but I'm back in the dark ages. I
> only recently got a smart phone and have yet to do anything with it other
> than make and receive phone calls. In fact, I've never even sent or
> received text!
>
> A.
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Audacity will do that.  Clip, cut and paste.
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com  Tue Mar 29 10:00:00 2016
From: Michael.Zimmer at federalmogul.com (Zimmer, Michael)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:00:00 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl>
	<BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>
	<CAEPJO1g77Pf4YRcsfh9TQrBJbJ2K59n4NTG=-JhFuUXEXS0=9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF69FA2@sfldmiex022>

If I were you, I'd download one of the free ringtone apps available for iPad and Android.  The advantage to these apps is that they let you set the start point and end point of the ringtone.  Most ringtones should be limited to 20 - 30 second segments.  So if you want a certain portion of a song....say a screaming guitar solo or a key chorus, you'll have to be able to edit.




Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:16 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones

Sounds good, Rocky. But, ignorant as I am, I'm guessing that I install Audacity on my notebook and then locate the MP3 I want to snip, then cut, and finally paste -- into what? Another MP3? And then how do I get that MP3 onto my phone?

I apologize for such simple questions, but I'm back in the dark ages. I only recently got a smart phone and have yet to do anything with it other than make and receive phone calls. In fact, I've never even sent or received text!

A.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:

> Audacity will do that.  Clip, cut and paste.
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 05:07:50 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:07:50 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Custom Ring Tones
In-Reply-To: <6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF69FA2@sfldmiex022>
References: <CAEPJO1gGYS6R8=En1-XEJfBCvZwqkqwVH1KGZ2izATxNoAXuOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU176-DS2DE9F1CDBF845AF946F97F6870@phx.gbl>
	<BFAA55D325B945C2BA8C614D88CB5848@HAL9007>
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	<6763936ED419A949BE5DEAA5A345C7224CF69FA2@sfldmiex022>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j-y5a+mrj4KX_vKAUhWSsEJ3gAQ5s-Mkq+ONJiX633Bw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, all. I'm going to give it a shot. In my case, I think I'll try a
snip of a tabla solo by Zakir Hussain. I don't know of anyone with a tabla
ring tone, so I won't ever be confused by someone else's ring. But I admit
that Foghorn Leghorn is an excellent choice. ?

A.
?

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Mar 30 12:14:06 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:14:06 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?Microsoft_is_bringing_the_Bash_shell_to_Wind?=
 =?utf-8?q?ows_10?=
Message-ID: <1459358046.408487512@f406.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

FYI: ?"Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10"

http://tinyurl.com/h6ufgj6

"The native availability of a full Ubuntu environment on Windows, without virtualization or emulation, is a milestone that defies convention and a gateway to fascinatingly unfamiliar territory..."


-- 
???????????? ??????

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Mar 30 12:36:15 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:36:15 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB15840FB2B784011235292ABACA980@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shamil

What?s next? Linux 10?

/gustav


Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sendt: 30. marts 2016 19:14
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10

Hi All --

FYI:  "Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10"

http://tinyurl.com/h6ufgj6

"The native availability of a full Ubuntu environment on Windows, without virtualization or emulation, is a milestone that defies convention and a gateway to fascinatingly unfamiliar territory..."

--
???????????? ??????


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Wed Mar 30 13:05:11 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:05:11 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Microsoft_is_bringing_the_Bash_shell_to_Wind?=
 =?utf-8?q?ows_10?=
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB15840FB2B784011235292ABACA980@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB15840FB2B784011235292ABACA980@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1459361111.857644390@f94.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Gustav --

No, it's just a useful new MS Windows 10 feature for developers, system integrators etc., they (MS) say they might bring other shells to MS Windows 10 similar way but this first one is the most important I suppose...

Watch live ?( http://tinyurl.com/hftus4z ) - here are a few short notes I have made but I have missed the most part of it: ?

1. Windows Ink
2. Bash comes to Windows (native Ubuntu executables)
3. Convert Win32/.NET apps to the Windows Universal Platform (UWP)
4. Development for UWP, iOS, Android in VS2015
5. Holographic computing - Microsoft Hololens - Hololens Dev Kit - Galaxy Explorer - developed in 6 weeks, code is open sourced on Git (https://github.com/Microsoft/GalaxyExplorer)
6. DirectX 12
7. Skype Bot SDK - - https://dev.botframework.com
8. Cortana Intelligence Suite
...
Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:36 PM +03:00 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>What?s next? Linux 10?
>
>/gustav
>
>
>Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sendt: 30. marts 2016 19:14
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10
>
>Hi All --
>
>FYI:  "Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10"
>
>http://tinyurl.com/h6ufgj6
>
>"The native availability of a full Ubuntu environment on Windows, without virtualization or emulation, is a milestone that defies convention and a gateway to fascinatingly unfamiliar territory..."
>
>--
>???????????? ??????
>
>_______________________________________________
>dba-Tech mailing list
>dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Wed Mar 30 13:18:11 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:18:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10
In-Reply-To: <1459358046.408487512@f406.i.mail.ru>
References: <1459358046.408487512@f406.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <56FC1863.5010202@earthlink.net>

On 3/30/2016 12:14, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>   Hi All --
>
> FYI:  "Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/h6ufgj6
>
> "The native availability of a full Ubuntu environment on Windows, without virtualization or emulation, is a milestone that defies convention and a gateway to fascinatingly unfamiliar territory..."

Indeed, excellent development!

PB

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Mar 31 02:54:26 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 02:54:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10
In-Reply-To: <1459361111.857644390@f94.i.mail.ru>
References: <VI1PR06MB15840FB2B784011235292ABACA980@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1459361111.857644390@f94.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <56FCD7B2.7050303@earthlink.net>

On 3/30/2016 13:05, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>   Hi Gustav --
>
> No, it's just a useful new MS Windows 10 feature for developers, system integrators etc., they (MS) say they might bring other shells to MS Windows 10 similar way but this first one is the most important I suppose...
>
> Watch live  ( http://tinyurl.com/hftus4z ) - here are a few short notes I have made but I have missed the most part of it:
>
> 1. Windows Ink
> 2. Bash comes to Windows (native Ubuntu executables)
> 3. Convert Win32/.NET apps to the Windows Universal Platform (UWP)
> 4. Development for UWP, iOS, Android in VS2015
> 5. Holographic computing - Microsoft Hololens - Hololens Dev Kit - Galaxy Explorer - developed in 6 weeks, code is open sourced on Git (https://github.com/Microsoft/GalaxyExplorer)
> 6. DirectX 12
> 7. Skype Bot SDK - - https://dev.botframework.com
> 8. Cortana Intelligence Suite

Will win10's Bash know how to hide the infamous Microsoft folder backslash?

PB

-----

> ...
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
>
>> Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:36 PM +03:00 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>>
>> Hi Shamil
>>
>> What?s next? Linux 10?
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto: mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>> Sendt: 30. marts 2016 19:14
>> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>> Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10
>>
>> Hi All --
>>
>> FYI:  "Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10"
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/h6ufgj6
>>
>> "The native availability of a full Ubuntu environment on Windows, without virtualization or emulation, is a milestone that defies convention and a gateway to fascinatingly unfamiliar territory..."
>>
>> --
>> ???????????? ??????
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> _______________________________________________
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Mar 31 04:29:56 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:29:56 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech]
 =?utf-8?q?Microsoft_is_bringing_the_Bash_shell_to_Wind?=
 =?utf-8?q?ows_10?=
In-Reply-To: <56FCD7B2.7050303@earthlink.net>
References: <VI1PR06MB15840FB2B784011235292ABACA980@VI1PR06MB1584.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1459361111.857644390@f94.i.mail.ru>
	<56FCD7B2.7050303@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1459416596.231582855@f383.i.mail.ru>

 Peter --

I have no information will ?"win10's Bash know how to hide the infamous Microsoft folder backslash".

Here is a "Linux Command Line on Windows" ( https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2016/C906 ?) video discussion from Build 2016 providing more info/demos on subject topic.

-- Shamil

>Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:54 AM +03:00 from Peter Brawley <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>:
>
>On 3/30/2016 13:05, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>>   Hi Gustav --
>>
>> No, it's just a useful new MS Windows 10 feature for developers, system integrators etc., they (MS) say they might bring other shells to MS Windows 10 similar way but this first one is the most important I suppose...
>>
>> Watch live  (  http://tinyurl.com/hftus4z ) - here are a few short notes I have made but I have missed the most part of it:
>>
>> 1. Windows Ink
>> 2. Bash comes to Windows (native Ubuntu executables)
>> 3. Convert Win32/.NET apps to the Windows Universal Platform (UWP)
>> 4. Development for UWP, iOS, Android in VS2015
>> 5. Holographic computing - Microsoft Hololens - Hololens Dev Kit - Galaxy Explorer - developed in 6 weeks, code is open sourced on Git ( https://github.com/Microsoft/GalaxyExplorer )
>> 6. DirectX 12
>> 7. Skype Bot SDK - -  https://dev.botframework.com
>> 8. Cortana Intelligence Suite
>
>Will win10's Bash know how to hide the infamous Microsoft folder backslash?
>
>PB
>
>-----
>
>> ...
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>>
>>> Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:36 PM +03:00 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>>
>>> Hi Shamil
>>>
>>> What?s next? Linux 10?
>>>
>>> /gustav
>>>
>>>
>>> Fra: Salakhetdinov Shamil<mailto:  mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>>> Sendt: 30. marts 2016 19:14
>>> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:  dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>>> Emne: [dba-Tech] Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10
>>>
>>> Hi All --
>>>
>>> FYI:  "Microsoft is bringing the Bash shell to Windows 10"
>>>
>>>  http://tinyurl.com/h6ufgj6
>>>
>>> "The native availability of a full Ubuntu environment on Windows, without virtualization or emulation, is a milestone that defies convention and a gateway to fascinatingly unfamiliar territory..."
>>>
>>> --
>>> ???????????? ??????
>>>
>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 31 11:23:04 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:23:04 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Very small
In-Reply-To: <2132262737.12515964.1458926011212.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <234106676.16755650.1459441384419.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

A new super small Linux version has been introduced.

There have been a number of very small Linux versions over the years like CrunchBang, Lubuntu, Bondi that run in the 50 to 70MB range but now we have a new super fast very small Linux called Stali which is only 34MB. Most Linux distros are around the 600 to 900MB range. 

http://bit.ly/21UFXQA

Aside: Stali edges out some versions of Microsoft which are in the 16 to 20GB range. ;-)

Jim  

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 31 11:55:09 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:55:09 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A web game changer?
In-Reply-To: <2132262737.12515964.1458926011212.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1264930501.16787418.1459443308994.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Supposedly, Webassembly (http://bit.ly/21UHnuv) is game changer. It originated from the highly optimized asm.js which can run very complex applications across the web; like games with all the complex ray-tracing and 3D rendering. WA is designed to spawns services instead of using the standard monolith code which gives the browser the ability to perform tasks at the near speed of desktop applications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssembly (https://github.com/WebAssembly)

Aside: There has been some development that WebAssembly may eventually be rewritten in the new language Rust, which has been designed to be faster, leaner and more stable than C or C++: (https://www.rust-lang.org/) To prove the new language's capability some developers went so far as to build a version of Linux called Redox (http://www.redox-os.org/). This distro version is not quite ready to prime-time but it does give proof-of-concept.

Jim

 

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Mar 31 16:09:34 2016
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 00:09:34 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?=22Age_of_Ascent=22_network_game_technology_?=
	=?utf-8?q?stack?=
Message-ID: <1459458574.18122880@f84.i.mail.ru>

 Hi All --

FYI:? http://tinyurl.com/hyj27js

See also: ? http://tinyurl.com/hvg5xea ?starting at 2:50

-- 
???????????? ??????

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Mar 31 20:21:45 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:21:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] 365 question
Message-ID: <005e01d18bb4$db908230$92b18690$@gmail.com>

An editor and I are trying to clarify terms for Office 365 apps. I've been
using Office 2016 and 365 to distinguish between the installed and cloud
apps, but she thinks 365 is the wrong term because 365 is the subscription
name. I agree about the latter, but MS uses the term Office 365 when you
sign into the cloud apps, so I thought readers would understand the
distinction. We do want to be as correct as possible. 

 

How are you guys referencing these? 

 

Susan H.