From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  1 04:04:27 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:04:27 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WiFi analyzer for Windows 10 (was: Why I just destroyed
 my cell phone)
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB2198AE49819BDB933D6D33EBCAA10@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

My 925 runs Windows Phone 8, so it cannot install on that, but on my service laptop with Windows 10 it runs very well. 
I don't think any other app will beat the multiple display options of this app. You can download and enjoy these even if you don't have a need for the app.

/gustav

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Sendt: 31. oktober 2016 20:26
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

Thanks for the research. I can not imagine how a tech who does lots of onsite work could do without this tool. You will have to tell me how it works for you so it can be the first app installed on a new phone. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 9:44:38 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

I found out why WiFi analyzers were so hard to find:

<quote>
This isn't possible unless you hunt down Joe Belfiore, throw him out of his yacht, and hit him over the head with NativeWifi until it's in there.

The functionality isn't available in the Windows Phone API.
If it were, the app would already be in Store.
</quote>

However, in Windows 10 Mobile it is. And a shiny app is out there - WiFi Commander 3D:

    http://wificommander.com/

As a Windows 10 Universal App, it also runs on the desktop (laptop). The purchase is only $5.

I rushed to get it from the Store to run on my old service laptop. It doesn't receive the 5 GHz band, but the 3D view is amazing.

/gustav

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Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 20:56
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

Unfortunately, we have no competition here or more accurately all the players only competed on making the rates exactly the same. The last time there was a challenge to their authority, multiple millions were spent on shutting the opponent down. The best Canadian phone company, Ting, had to move to the the states where they are giving exceptional service to boys and girl below the 49th parallel...their head-quarters is still in Toronto.

We here can only dream of such rates and service.

About the analyzer, when in business it was so useful (traditionally server rooms would have very bad connection but not always and not always all over the room(s)) and here when there is multiple competing open hot-spots, the app is useful, for checking which is the most stable and has the best signal...or even if there is a strong enough signal. When in a large building, for example, signal strength can be checked, at various locations, in real-time when expecting a call or making one. I can not imagine that Microsoft does not have a third-party that would provide one... 

There are a number of Open Source analyzers out there...mostly built in "C". How much difficulty would it take to convert such a app to run on Window cell phone addition? Example: https://github.com/luigino/linssid/find/master but there are many more.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

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Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:09
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

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Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

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Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk. 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  1 22:00:00 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:00:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows on a Mac
Message-ID: <027901d234b5$33928150$9ab783f0$@bchacc.com>

What's the current gold standard for running Windows on a Mac?

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  1 23:04:46 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 21:04:46 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access Has Stopped Working!
Message-ID: <02ae01d234be$3fd797d0$bf86c770$@bchacc.com>

Dear List(s):

 

I am running an accdb in A2010.  I want to convert a report to a pdf and
attach it to an email.  This works perfectly on my machine.  

 

At the client site it does not. I spent two hours there today trying
everything I could think of -  checking Microsoft update for patches fixes,
updates, etc., decompiling, compact and repair, lacing the code with
DoEvents, running as administrator - nothing worked.  I did track the
problematic line of code.  It is the line with 

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport

 

And Access Stopped Working on this line of code almost every time.  I say
almost because a couple of times it ran - generated both pdfs and popped up
the email with the two report pdfs attached!  Which is why I tried the
DoEvents.  But it barfed pretty consistently on that first DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport,

 

Here's the code:

 

strFrontEndPath = db.Name

Do While Right(strFrontEndPath, 1) <> "\"

    strFrontEndPath = Left(strFrontEndPath, Len(strFrontEndPath) - 1)

Loop

strRAPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "RentalAgreement-" _

    & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _

    & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"

strRAPDFName = Replace(strRAPDFName, "*", "")

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)",
strRAPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint

'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptRentalAgreement", , strRAPDFName, , False)

 

strCCPPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "CreditCardPermission-" _

    & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _

    & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"

strCCPPDFName = Replace(strCCPPDFName, "*", "")

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail",
"PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strCCPPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint

'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail", , strCCPPDFName,
, False)

 

 

You can see the previous legacy code which worked for a long time in A2003 -
the calls to ConvertToPDF - which I have commented out.  That doesn't work
anymore.  

 

So I'm really stumped.  Has anyone had this problem and found a solution?
Two martinis to the genius who can post an effective fix.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  1 23:40:45 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 14:40:45 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Access Has Stopped Working!
In-Reply-To: <02ae01d234be$3fd797d0$bf86c770$@bchacc.com>
References: <02ae01d234be$3fd797d0$bf86c770$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <58196E4D.9406.4B376F41@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Try using using  the built in  constant ACFormatPDF or its literal value "PDF"
in place of  your "PDFFormat(*.pdf)"



On 1 Nov 2016 at 21:04, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Dear List(s):
> 
> 
> 
> I am running an accdb in A2010.  I want to convert a report to a pdf
> and attach it to an email.  This works perfectly on my machine.  
> 
> 
> 
> At the client site it does not. I spent two hours there today trying
> everything I could think of -  checking Microsoft update for patches
> fixes, updates, etc., decompiling, compact and repair, lacing the code
> with DoEvents, running as administrator - nothing worked.  I did track
> the problematic line of code.  It is the line with 
> 
> 
> 
> DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport
> 
> 
> 
> And Access Stopped Working on this line of code almost every time.  I
> say almost because a couple of times it ran - generated both pdfs and
> popped up the email with the two report pdfs attached!  Which is why I
> tried the DoEvents.  But it barfed pretty consistently on that first
> DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport,
> 
> 
> 
> Here's the code:
> 
> 
> 
> strFrontEndPath = db.Name
> 
> Do While Right(strFrontEndPath, 1) <> "\"
> 
>     strFrontEndPath = Left(strFrontEndPath, Len(strFrontEndPath) - 1)
> 
> Loop
> 
> strRAPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "RentalAgreement-" _
> 
>     & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _
> 
>     & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"
> 
> strRAPDFName = Replace(strRAPDFName, "*", "")
> 
> 
> 
> DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement",
> "PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strRAPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint
> 
> 'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptRentalAgreement", , strRAPDFName, ,
> False)
> 
> 
> 
> strCCPPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "CreditCardPermission-" _
> 
>     & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _
> 
>     & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"
> 
> strCCPPDFName = Replace(strCCPPDFName, "*", "")
> 
> 
> 
> DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail",
> "PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strCCPPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint
> 
> 'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail", ,
> strCCPPDFName, , False)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You can see the previous legacy code which worked for a long time in
> A2003 - the calls to ConvertToPDF - which I have commented out.  That
> doesn't work anymore.  
> 
> 
> 
> So I'm really stumped.  Has anyone had this problem and found a
> solution? Two martinis to the genius who can post an effective fix.
> 
> 
> 
> MTIA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> 
> Beach Access Software
> 
> 760-683-5777
> 
>  <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
> 
>  <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
> Skype: rocky.smolin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Nov  2 09:47:44 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 07:47:44 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082575D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA08256DE@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004901d2320c$588fa150$09aee3f0$@bchacc.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082572C@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082575D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <007501d23518$129f1b30$37dd5190$@bchacc.com>

Infamous? :)

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:58 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Your famous. His response below

"Interesting!!
A lot of this feedback we as in IS/cms have told them!
Some really good stuff here and I will feed back in.

Cheer
David"

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Martin Reid<mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:55
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Hope you don't mind but I sent your comments to our head of web dev. As a first time user you picked up a lot from the site.

Martin


Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:47
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Got it - sales and marketing...

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky post grad is where the money is particularly international pgs. It one of our major targets.

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Martin Reid<mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management 
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  3 23:17:58 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 22:17:58 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep
In-Reply-To: <008001d23382$c777fbe0$5667f3a0$@bchacc.com>
References: <008001d23382$c777fbe0$5667f3a0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <589107417.43346121.1478233078511.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Your thoughts?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>, "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>, "Noah Sutton-Smolin" <noahsutsmo at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:26:32 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep

http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1386
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Nov  3 23:50:00 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 21:50:00 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep
In-Reply-To: <589107417.43346121.1478233078511.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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	<589107417.43346121.1478233078511.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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Stories like this, and like the DMV story, and the hacking of Podesta's
emails, and the use of internet enabled devices to spread a virus, all point
to the same thing - the speed of technology has outstripped the ability of
the society to absorb it.  We know how to make the DMV disaster proof.  But
there aren't enough people with that knowledge to staff every position in
the country with competent technicians. 

People are unsophisticated about their privacy on the internet - there isn't
any.  When you write something and send it to someone over the internet,
there's no predicting where it will end up.

Yesterday one of my former customers, now the customer of the guy who bought
my system, did something so dope-slappingly unfathomable that I called him
to express my disbelief.  I could have written it to him in an email.  But I
NEVER say anything in an email, especially about someone else, that I
wouldn't say to their face.  Emails get forwarded, and forwarded again.  And
who knows where they'll end up?

For the car companies their technology resources are consumed with getting
the stuff engineered right, installed right, and working right.  The idea
that they have to pay attention to security, that people may cause mischief,
has not been on our radar.  Suddenly it will be.

Same with the IoT - that problem will be solved over time by consumers who
will be aware of the security issues and manufacturers who will respond to
them.  

But the pace of advance means that we are responding reactively instead of
proactively. 

Toffler's seminal book on the subject - Future Shock - was prescient.

r

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From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep

Your thoughts?

Jim

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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:26:32 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  4 00:57:40 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:57:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep
In-Reply-To: <011f01d23656$e66a01c0$b33e0540$@bchacc.com>
References: <008001d23382$c777fbe0$5667f3a0$@bchacc.com>
	<589107417.43346121.1478233078511.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<011f01d23656$e66a01c0$b33e0540$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <246547691.43461777.1478239060472.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

"...But there aren't enough people with that knowledge to staff every position in the country with competent technicians..." That statement is crap. It should read, "We are just too cheap to train and subsequently pay knowledgable staff."  

A car, internal working, should under no driving condition be remotely accessible. 

There is of course one small problem and that is that all the separate components of the new cars are interconnected via wifi. The main reason for this is cost...a cheap wifi component costs a few pennies but a direct cable connected to all the computer components costs a few pennies more.     

It is all an accountant thing. Accountants are the people that just about busted the American auto-industry by rendering cars into little more than cheap junk, that nobody wanted (...think Nader) just to save a few dollar per vehicle. Aside: Accountants can also be credited with destroying the US manned space program... 

Now they are at it again...just too cheap to train and pay staff appropriately. Yes, it takes time and yes, it costs money but that is the way it is. 

Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 9:50:00 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep

Stories like this, and like the DMV story, and the hacking of Podesta's
emails, and the use of internet enabled devices to spread a virus, all point
to the same thing - the speed of technology has outstripped the ability of
the society to absorb it.  We know how to make the DMV disaster proof.  But
there aren't enough people with that knowledge to staff every position in
the country with competent technicians. 

People are unsophisticated about their privacy on the internet - there isn't
any.  When you write something and send it to someone over the internet,
there's no predicting where it will end up.

Yesterday one of my former customers, now the customer of the guy who bought
my system, did something so dope-slappingly unfathomable that I called him
to express my disbelief.  I could have written it to him in an email.  But I
NEVER say anything in an email, especially about someone else, that I
wouldn't say to their face.  Emails get forwarded, and forwarded again.  And
who knows where they'll end up?

For the car companies their technology resources are consumed with getting
the stuff engineered right, installed right, and working right.  The idea
that they have to pay attention to security, that people may cause mischief,
has not been on our radar.  Suddenly it will be.

Same with the IoT - that problem will be solved over time by consumers who
will be aware of the security issues and manufacturers who will respond to
them.  

But the pace of advance means that we are responding reactively instead of
proactively. 

Toffler's seminal book on the subject - Future Shock - was prescient.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep

Your thoughts?

Jim

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>, "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>, "Noah Sutton-Smolin" <noahsutsmo at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:26:32 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov  6 04:37:44 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 10:37:44 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gHB4PW+sg4RtuWc8caqLgb=1Hcd2NaHUMo6iMitH+9Lw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198E99A1540F85B0D447926CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<CAEPJO1gHB4PW+sg4RtuWc8caqLgb=1Hcd2NaHUMo6iMitH+9Lw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB219824C039B7B3E59AAB4A17CAA40@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

You are always so kind. I just try to do my best - checking with translators and dictionaries when I'm in doubt. Also I'm "old school", meaning that when I went to school we actually learned how to write near-perfect Danish with all the syntax in Latin. In those days - with no SMS and chat - there was no use for sloppy language, only abbreviated for Telex.
Actually, for some years I made a living as a copywriter on some of the larger international agencies like McCann and DMB&B. Those days were fun but, to be honest, not that intellectual challenging - the horizon was never further away than the upcoming Friday afternoon beers.
It also matters that I enjoy the English language. Watch "The Night Manager" 

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399664/

and you will know what I mean. The dialogue is often so sharp and tense that it nearly hurts - it must have taken hours and hours for the writers to polish it to this level. Well deserved, it won two primetime Emmys.

As for your Danish, you will have a hard time, though not at all comparable with the challenges of Chinese which you also study. For example, y is a vocal on its own, and we have three extra vocals and characters, ?, ?, ? (also written ae, oe, aa), which cause most foreigners serious trouble.

Anyway, for a starter:

Hello. The direct translation is "hallo" used for calling a person's attention. As a greeting, it is "Goddag" which is formal as (old) English Good day, or "Hej" which is informal and equal to your Hi and pronounced nearly the same.

How are you? Could be either "Hvordan har du det?" with the attention to the person's general state of health, or "Hvordan g?r det?" which is more general and broad - you are interested in the overall situation of the person. If you reverse-translate it, the closest is the British "How do you do?"

Mange hilsener
Gustav
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Fra: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 19:47:41
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

Gustav,

Your command of English continues to amaze me. I think that I speak English
pretty well, but you continue to amaze me with your command of the
language. And I don't even know how to say "Hello" or "How are you?"" in
Danish. I'll Google it right now and try to catch up, but you're
embarrassing me. I can speak several languages, but Danish is not included
in the list. I'm going to work on it, starting today.

A.
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Nov 14 11:21:04 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 12:21:04 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB219824C039B7B3E59AAB4A17CAA40@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198E99A1540F85B0D447926CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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	<DB6PR0601MB219824C039B7B3E59AAB4A17CAA40@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gydBqfsrCa7f7hLY55DBmjh2euFXSvhvx_UdVCRf8iQA@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

Thank you so much for your language instructions. I confess that I do pride
myself on my ability to speak several languages (which in Europe is the
norm, not the exception, but over here in Canada only a few of us can speak
both English and French. As you know, I have embarked on learning Mandarin
and Cantonese and Hakka, and I'm certainly not fluent in any, I have
learned to discern which dialect is being spoken, within perhaps 10
seconds. And then I can respond in the appropriate dialect. Suddenly, the
atmosphere changes. They understand that I speak the main three Chinese
dialects, and suddenly it's as if the walls of the room have moved.

This has happened to me more than once in my life. I treasure these moments
as the most pleasurable in my life. I have been gifted to visit many (that
means at last count 31, which is a far cry from the number of nations in
the world. I want to be everywhere, every way, and able to speak every
language. I just wish that were possible.

There's a man in Vancouver who works as a legal translator (meaning that he
works in courts), who is fluent in 31 languages. I cannot even begin to
understand how that is possible, but apparently it is. It defies my
imagination. I am fluent in two, and acquainted with several others, but
how does a person become fluent in 31 languages? This is way beyond my
comprehension.

A.

?

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 16 11:43:06 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:43:06 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password
Message-ID: <044f01d24030$e3955bf0$aac013d0$@winhaven.net>

A hacker with little more than a minute can bypass the authentication
procedures on some Linux systems just by holding down the Enter key for
around 70 seconds.

 

http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-linux-system.html?utm_source=feedbu
rner
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urner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+New
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ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.1367.kp0aof74zx.sxy

 

http://tinyurl.com/z87jtll

 


From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 16 11:48:08 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:48:08 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAAAI16ZF4X5VOlu3AZsNqKIUBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>

A hacker with little more than a minute can bypass the authentication
procedures on some Linux systems just by holding down the Enter key for
around 70 seconds.

http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-linux-system.html?utm_source=feedbu
rner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News
+-+Security+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.1367.kp0aof74zx.sxy

http://tinyurl.com/z87jtll



From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 16 11:48:08 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:48:08 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cheap Android devices - not so cheap
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAAPirB2LVrl1Dl+BjfkaspMkBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>

You heard that right. Over 700 Million Android smartphones contain a secret
'backdoor' that surreptitiously sends all your text messages, call log,
contact list, location history, and app data to China every 72 hours.

Save a buck expose your data.

http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-android-smartphone.html?utm_source=
feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hacker
s+News+-+Security+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.1367.kp0aof74zx.sy4

http://tinyurl.com/ja5qhgu



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 16 15:20:57 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:20:57 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password
In-Reply-To: <044f01d24030$e3955bf0$aac013d0$@winhaven.net>
References: <044f01d24030$e3955bf0$aac013d0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1262090950.74128116.1479331257151.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

That has been the case...rightly or wrongly for a while but depending on how a user has been managing their updates, the patch has been most likely, already installed. If an individual has an odd older, non supported version of Linux, there is a single line of code that solves the issue.

In this business the rule of always keeping your patches updated. 

Jim

PS Tested three machines and they were either patched or not vulnerable.
 
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password

A hacker with little more than a minute can bypass the authentication
procedures on some Linux systems just by holding down the Enter key for
around 70 seconds.

 

http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-linux-system.html?utm_source=feedbu
rner
<http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-linux-system.html?utm_source=feedb
urner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+New
s+-+Security+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.1367.kp0aof74zx.sxy>
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ecurity+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.1367.kp0aof74zx.sxy

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 16 15:21:37 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:21:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAAAI16ZF4X5VOlu3AZsNqKIUBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAACF22RC3KWdEkmLp1h8C0yTCgAAAEAAAAAI16ZF4X5VOlu3AZsNqKIUBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <865922821.74129625.1479331297245.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

PS Thanks for posting...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:48:08 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password

A hacker with little more than a minute can bypass the authentication
procedures on some Linux systems just by holding down the Enter key for
around 70 seconds.

http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-linux-system.html?utm_source=feedbu
rner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News
+-+Security+Blog%29&_m=3n.009a.1367.kp0aof74zx.sxy

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Nov 16 15:57:26 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:57:26 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW:  Linux flaw allows bypassing password
In-Reply-To: <CAJ7X+bhA3O+-AQ93XuCU2vUz6Ge0uo5da6RbXas9Q0V71heaxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <044f01d24030$e3955bf0$aac013d0$@winhaven.net>
	<024701d24032$706ade00$51409a00$@bchacc.com>
	<CAJ7X+bhA3O+-AQ93XuCU2vUz6Ge0uo5da6RbXas9Q0V71heaxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004a01d24054$6b070b60$41152220$@bchacc.com>

John:

 

>From Noah.  Do you know if initramfs can be connected remotely?

 

r

 

From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 1:44 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password

 

Was going to say that it's very low priority if it requires physical access, but there article says it's remotely available. That makes it much more serious. 

Unfortunately the article doesn't go into detail on how to make it usable remotely, because (as far as I remember, it's been a while) usually the initramfs terminal can't be connected to over the internet. 

 

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016, 09:54 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:



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John R Bartow
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:43 AM
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Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password
Importance: High

A hacker with little more than a minute can bypass the authentication
procedures on some Linux systems just by holding down the Enter key for
around 70 seconds.



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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 16 22:50:23 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 22:50:23 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW:  Linux flaw allows bypassing password
In-Reply-To: <004a01d24054$6b070b60$41152220$@bchacc.com>
References: <044f01d24030$e3955bf0$aac013d0$@winhaven.net>	<024701d24032$706ade00$51409a00$@bchacc.com>	<CAJ7X+bhA3O+-AQ93XuCU2vUz6Ge0uo5da6RbXas9Q0V71heaxQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<004a01d24054$6b070b60$41152220$@bchacc.com>
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No, I don't.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 3:57 PM
To: List
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW: Linux flaw allows bypassing password

John:

 

>From Noah.  Do you know if initramfs can be connected remotely?

 

r

 

From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 1:44 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password

 

Was going to say that it's very low priority if it requires physical access,
but there article says it's remotely available. That makes it much more
serious. 

Unfortunately the article doesn't go into detail on how to make it usable
remotely, because (as far as I remember, it's been a while) usually the
initramfs terminal can't be connected to over the internet. 

 

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016, 09:54 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:



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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:43 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux flaw allows bypassing password
Importance: High

A hacker with little more than a minute can bypass the authentication
procedures on some Linux systems just by holding down the Enter key for
around 70 seconds.



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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Sat Nov 19 08:54:17 2016
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (fhtapia at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 14:54:17 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cheap Android devices - not so cheap
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I guess that worked out! ;)
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:48 AM John R Bartow <jbartow at winhaven.net> wrote:

> You heard that right. Over 700 Million Android smartphones contain a secret
> 'backdoor' that surreptitiously sends all your text messages, call log,
> contact list, location history, and app data to China every 72 hours.
>
> Save a buck expose your data.
>
>
> http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-android-smartphone.html?utm_source=
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 21 15:53:56 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 13:53:56 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working
 Solution)
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Dear List(s):

Well I'm back to trying to solve this problem of "Access has stopped
working".  The delay helped by reducing the number of times access stops
working, but still occurs randomly.

So I thought about changing the default printer to a pdf printer and then
changing back to the default.  Which works OK except the pdf printer pops up
a dialog box asking what to name the pdf file and where to store it. 

Does anyone know of a pdf printer that can be controlled from within Access
so that the name and path of the pdf file can be sent to the printer?

MTIA


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
760-683-5777
www.bchacc.com
www.e-z-mrp.com
Skype: rocky.smolin
 



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 5:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

Glad to hear that something is working!

I do have this working at 3 customers for many years at 0.1 seconds w/o any
errors.  1 second doesn't affect a user much but I'd still try 0.5 seconds.
Hope that works!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 19:19
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

All:

I put the Pause function in and it seemed to work on my machine.  But still
have the problem at the client site. It didn't work here at .1 seconds, but
at 1 second it did.

That same dll seems to be in the error log.  But I don't find anything on
the internets about it. 

Any more ideas?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

Hi Rocky,

I think Jim is correct.

First, save this as a Public Sub.
'---------------------
Public Sub Pause(Optional sngNumberOfSeconds As Single = 0.1)
    On Error GoTo EH

    '-- Purpose:  This will 'pause' running code so that Access can get
other things done

    Dim sngPauseTime As Single
    Dim sngStart As Single

    If sngNumberOfSeconds = 0 Then Exit Sub

    sngPauseTime = sngNumberOfSeconds
    sngStart = Timer
    Do While Timer < sngStart + sngPauseTime
        DoEvents
    Loop

EH:
    Exit Sub

End Sub
'--------------------------

Next, replace the 2nd DoEvents with Call Pause.  I do this in my code but I
didn't think you would need it.

By default, Pause will run a loop of DoEvents for 1/10 of a second.

Again, Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Dan, Et Al:

Here's a clue, maybe.  That code didn't work - got the "Access has stopped
working" message.  BUT!

When I put a breakpoint into the code before the open query and single
stepped through it (F8), it worked!

So it would seem to be some kind of timing issue?

I did put the DoEvents in like you said:

DoCmd.OpenQuery "qryActiveUser"
DoEvents
DoCmd.OpenReport "rptRentalAgreement", acPreview, , , acHidden DoEvents
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", acFormatPDF,
strRAPDFName, False  ', "", acExportQualityPrint DoEvents 'DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strRAPDFName,
False ', "", acExportQualityPrint DoCmd.Close acReport,
"rptRentalAgreement", acSaveNo DoCmd.Close acQuery, "qryActiveUser"

Any clue here?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

This is indeed a bug which has been around for years.  This is how I handle
it in my system.

'----------------------------

            '-- To resolve a 2046 bug in Access (see KB 244695) a software
object must be opened before the 'OutputTo' method is called.

            '-- Open any read-only query (this opens a database window
referred to in KB 244695)
            DoCmd.OpenQuery "qryGlobalErrors"

            '-- Output report from the file it's in
            If varObjectType = acReport Then

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OpenReport stgObjectName, acViewPreview, , , acHidden

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, stgObjectName, acFormatPDF,
stgAccessObjectPath

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.Close acReport, stgObjectName, acSaveNo

            Else

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OutputTo varObjectType, stgObjectName,
varOutputFormat, stgAccessObjectPath

            End If

            '-- Close the read-only query
            DoCmd.Close acQuery, "qryGlobalErrors"

'----------------------------

Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!


 Would be good to get the fault from the event log and then see if it is the
same in each case.

  If it is, then your probably tripping over a bug.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 01:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

I'll try that tomorrow. Un-commenting the last two parameters of the
OutputTo didn't change the result.  Still barfed.  

I assume then after the output to you close the hidden report?

Thx

R

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
David Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'List'; 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

Hi Rocky,

I had a similar situation.  I read somewhere that opening the report hidden
first solves the problem

DoCmd.OpenReport " rptRentalAgreement ", acPreview, , , acHidden
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)",
strRAPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint


I also noticed in the second line above (copied from your code) you have a '
after False - this may cause a problem as well.

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 5:05 p.m.
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

Dear List(s):

 

I am running an accdb in A2010.  I want to convert a report to a pdf and
attach it to an email.  This works perfectly on my machine.  

 

At the client site it does not. I spent two hours there today trying
everything I could think of -  checking Microsoft update for patches fixes,
updates, etc., decompiling, compact and repair, lacing the code with
DoEvents, running as administrator - nothing worked.  I did track the
problematic line of code.  It is the line with 

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport

 

And Access Stopped Working on this line of code almost every time.  I say
almost because a couple of times it ran - generated both pdfs and popped up
the email with the two report pdfs attached!  Which is why I tried the
DoEvents.  But it barfed pretty consistently on that first DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport,

 

Here's the code:

 

strFrontEndPath = db.Name

Do While Right(strFrontEndPath, 1) <> "\"

    strFrontEndPath = Left(strFrontEndPath, Len(strFrontEndPath) - 1)

Loop

strRAPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "RentalAgreement-" _

    & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _

    & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"

strRAPDFName = Replace(strRAPDFName, "*", "")

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)",
strRAPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint

'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptRentalAgreement", , strRAPDFName, , False)

 

strCCPPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "CreditCardPermission-" _

    & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _

    & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"

strCCPPDFName = Replace(strCCPPDFName, "*", "")

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail",
"PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strCCPPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint

'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail", , strCCPPDFName,
, False)

 

 

You can see the previous legacy code which worked for a long time in A2003 -
the calls to ConvertToPDF - which I have commented out.  That doesn't work
anymore.  

 

So I'm really stumped.  Has anyone had this problem and found a solution?
Two martinis to the genius who can post an effective fix.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

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From listmaster at databaseadvisors.com  Tue Nov 22 08:47:55 2016
From: listmaster at databaseadvisors.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 07:47:55 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Administrivia - Back Up and Running
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Hi All,

I'd like to let everyone know that the lists are all back up and
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 23 04:10:52 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 10:10:52 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Setun and trits
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB21988E0A558B93690B3F4CC5CAB70@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

Never heard of this "balanced ternary" number system of the 1950s, but very creative and with interesting features:

    https://dev.to/buntine/the-balanced-ternary-machines-of-soviet-russia

/gustav

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov 23 04:30:46 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 20:30:46 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Setun and trits
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB21988E0A558B93690B3F4CC5CAB70@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB21988E0A558B93690B3F4CC5CAB70@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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I'd never come across it before either, but that is a fascinating article.

Thank you.



On 23 Nov 2016 at 10:10, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Never heard of this "balanced ternary" number system of the 1950s, but
> very creative and with interesting features:
> 
>     https://dev.to/buntine/the-balanced-ternary-machines-of-soviet-rus
>     sia
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 23 15:21:04 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 14:21:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Backup  all your GMail
In-Reply-To: <5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Now you can backup your GMail accounts easily with an application called GMVault. The application can be downloaded from the following GHub account:

https://github.com/gaubert/gmvault
https://github.com/gaubert/gmvault/archive/master.zip

For various OS support (Win, Linux, OSX...), view page:

http://gmvault.org/download.html

Example: For Windows: 
https://bitbucket.org/gaubert/gmvault-official-download/downloads/gmvault_installer_v1.9.1.exe
http://bit.ly/2fpWISx

Jim


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Nov 24 10:27:03 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 11:27:03 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <1652955092.27565432.1477689435954.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1652955092.27565432.1477689435954.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1joufmRYu=Ga2tLBg1UWggAsJc+o_L8dfNJAHDUjueJLg@mail.gmail.com>

She's a poor little duck and everything I have tried has failed to revive
her. I think that she is gone, my beloved Guinevere. Now the question is,
what do I do with her remains? Specifically, her RAM and hard drives? The
RAM may be of no use but the hard drives work -- I think.

So what? Do I build a coffin and bury her, which is exactly what I did with
an old cat named Scotia -- took two days to build her coffin  and then
interred her while surrounded by a group of friends who loved her.

I don't think any of my friends loved Guinevere the way I did, They just
tell me to move on and get a new wife. It's not that easy. I wrote several
books and hundreds of magazine articles with her help, and even though I
have backups, that's not the issue.

It's heart-breaking. I can't just toss her into a recycle-bin. I can't do
that. I guess that I have defined the definition of a geek/nerd --someone
who weeps at the death of a computer.

Everyone says, it's just a chunk of metal; move on, get over her. there are
lots of tuna in the ocean, and stuff like that. That doesn't erase the pain
of her demise.

Can anyone advise an amateur on how to determine which part is failing? I
could replace that part and Guinevere might recover from her illness,
perhaps only to be demoted to "Email/Printer Server" or somesuch. For about
$120 CDN, I can replace her with much more contemporary equipment, but
that's not the point. Much as adults hesitate to place their parents in a
retirement home, I hesitate as well.

There's another issue, albeit a side issue. Several times over the past ~30
years, especially in the early days, when something broke or was replaced
by something faster and smarter, I tossed the older stuff into the bin...
only to discover that it was now worth many times what I paid originally. I
was young and stupid, and don't want to repeat that error again.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Arthur, I am the king of rebuilding computers but sometimes these old
> boxes have to be retired...technology has moved on so far in twenty years
> that most modern software wouldn't work...regardless of the OS.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59:47 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
>
> My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
> She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, something
> like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of upgrades (replaced
> the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course the usual OS upgrades.)
> Now she powers on and I can hear the fan running, and the hard-disk light
> blinking, but nothing else happens.
>
> I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see if I
> can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally prepared
> to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a living, but
> just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just simple email and
> browsing.
>
> The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more than a
> refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently purchased a
> refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, and her boyfriend
> kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about $60.
>
> I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper to
> replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm
> comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even despite
> her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has performed
> very well and I don't want to pull the plug.
>
> The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a tablet
> called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names derive.
>
> What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?
>
> --
> Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Nov 24 11:43:54 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 09:43:54 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
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A:

If it's old the RAM is probably not going to play well with more moderne
comps.  Tell us what kind it is and someone here will tell you what it's
worth.

Same with the drives.  How big? What kind of interface?

What is the failed component?  Motherboard?  

If you want to give her a second life, put her on Craigs list.  If someone
gives you some real money for her they'll be motivate to make it work and
she'll have a second life somewhere else.

Otherwise, bite the bullet.  Have you ever had to let a dog go? Sometimes
you just gotta pull the plug. 

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:27 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

She's a poor little duck and everything I have tried has failed to revive
her. I think that she is gone, my beloved Guinevere. Now the question is,
what do I do with her remains? Specifically, her RAM and hard drives? The
RAM may be of no use but the hard drives work -- I think.

So what? Do I build a coffin and bury her, which is exactly what I did with
an old cat named Scotia -- took two days to build her coffin  and then
interred her while surrounded by a group of friends who loved her.

I don't think any of my friends loved Guinevere the way I did, They just
tell me to move on and get a new wife. It's not that easy. I wrote several
books and hundreds of magazine articles with her help, and even though I
have backups, that's not the issue.

It's heart-breaking. I can't just toss her into a recycle-bin. I can't do
that. I guess that I have defined the definition of a geek/nerd --someone
who weeps at the death of a computer.

Everyone says, it's just a chunk of metal; move on, get over her. there are
lots of tuna in the ocean, and stuff like that. That doesn't erase the pain
of her demise.

Can anyone advise an amateur on how to determine which part is failing? I
could replace that part and Guinevere might recover from her illness,
perhaps only to be demoted to "Email/Printer Server" or somesuch. For about
$120 CDN, I can replace her with much more contemporary equipment, but
that's not the point. Much as adults hesitate to place their parents in a
retirement home, I hesitate as well.

There's another issue, albeit a side issue. Several times over the past ~30
years, especially in the early days, when something broke or was replaced by
something faster and smarter, I tossed the older stuff into the bin...
only to discover that it was now worth many times what I paid originally. I
was young and stupid, and don't want to repeat that error again.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Arthur, I am the king of rebuilding computers but sometimes these old 
> boxes have to be retired...technology has moved on so far in twenty 
> years that most modern software wouldn't work...regardless of the OS.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < 
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59:47 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
>
> My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
> She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, 
> something like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of 
> upgrades (replaced the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course 
> the usual OS upgrades.) Now she powers on and I can hear the fan 
> running, and the hard-disk light blinking, but nothing else happens.
>
> I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see 
> if I can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally 
> prepared to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a 
> living, but just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just 
> simple email and browsing.
>
> The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more 
> than a refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently 
> purchased a refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, 
> and her boyfriend kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about
$60.
>
> I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper 
> to replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm 
> comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even 
> despite her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has 
> performed very well and I don't want to pull the plug.
>
> The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a 
> tablet called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names
derive.
>
> What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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From df.waters at outlook.com  Thu Nov 24 11:58:08 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 17:58:08 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <017f01d2467a$53bf0df0$fb3d29d0$@bchacc.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>
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I did a search on 'what to do with an old pc' and lots of ideas are out there.  You could sign up to help SETI ... !  

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/

Have fun!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:44
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

A:

If it's old the RAM is probably not going to play well with more moderne comps.  Tell us what kind it is and someone here will tell you what it's worth.

Same with the drives.  How big? What kind of interface?

What is the failed component?  Motherboard?  

If you want to give her a second life, put her on Craigs list.  If someone gives you some real money for her they'll be motivate to make it work and she'll have a second life somewhere else.

Otherwise, bite the bullet.  Have you ever had to let a dog go? Sometimes you just gotta pull the plug. 

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:27 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

She's a poor little duck and everything I have tried has failed to revive her. I think that she is gone, my beloved Guinevere. Now the question is, what do I do with her remains? Specifically, her RAM and hard drives? The RAM may be of no use but the hard drives work -- I think.

So what? Do I build a coffin and bury her, which is exactly what I did with an old cat named Scotia -- took two days to build her coffin  and then interred her while surrounded by a group of friends who loved her.

I don't think any of my friends loved Guinevere the way I did, They just tell me to move on and get a new wife. It's not that easy. I wrote several books and hundreds of magazine articles with her help, and even though I have backups, that's not the issue.

It's heart-breaking. I can't just toss her into a recycle-bin. I can't do that. I guess that I have defined the definition of a geek/nerd --someone who weeps at the death of a computer.

Everyone says, it's just a chunk of metal; move on, get over her. there are lots of tuna in the ocean, and stuff like that. That doesn't erase the pain of her demise.

Can anyone advise an amateur on how to determine which part is failing? I could replace that part and Guinevere might recover from her illness, perhaps only to be demoted to "Email/Printer Server" or somesuch. For about
$120 CDN, I can replace her with much more contemporary equipment, but that's not the point. Much as adults hesitate to place their parents in a retirement home, I hesitate as well.

There's another issue, albeit a side issue. Several times over the past ~30 years, especially in the early days, when something broke or was replaced by something faster and smarter, I tossed the older stuff into the bin...
only to discover that it was now worth many times what I paid originally. I was young and stupid, and don't want to repeat that error again.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Arthur, I am the king of rebuilding computers but sometimes these old 
> boxes have to be retired...technology has moved on so far in twenty 
> years that most modern software wouldn't work...regardless of the OS.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < 
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59:47 AM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
>
> My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
> She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, 
> something like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of 
> upgrades (replaced the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course 
> the usual OS upgrades.) Now she powers on and I can hear the fan 
> running, and the hard-disk light blinking, but nothing else happens.
>
> I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see 
> if I can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally 
> prepared to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a 
> living, but just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just 
> simple email and browsing.
>
> The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more 
> than a refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently 
> purchased a refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, 
> and her boyfriend kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each 
> about
$60.
>
> I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper 
> to replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm 
> comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even 
> despite her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has 
> performed very well and I don't want to pull the plug.
>
> The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a 
> tablet called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these 
> names
derive.
>
> What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 
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>



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From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Nov 24 11:59:03 2016
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 11:59:03 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1joufmRYu=Ga2tLBg1UWggAsJc+o_L8dfNJAHDUjueJLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1652955092.27565432.1477689435954.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<CAEPJO1joufmRYu=Ga2tLBg1UWggAsJc+o_L8dfNJAHDUjueJLg@mail.gmail.com>
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I don't believe you have given us much if anything to go on to
diagnose the issue.

What exactly does it do when you turn it on?  Any Beeps?  Lights?
Fans spinning?  Does it have onboard video controller or a separate
video card?

If you are not getting anything displaying on the monitor, have you
tried a different monitor?  Do you have any other spare parts?
Another video card?

I would guess power supply first. Motherboard second. Video card
third. Power supplies aren't that expensive but as it's old getting
the right one might be difficult.  If it was hard drive you would
still get messages indicating that it was unable to find the drive
etc.

You might look on ebay or someplace for the same system or a very
similar one - then you could swap parts from that donor system into
Guenivere one by one.

Sometimes pulling OUT parts can help to determine which is the
problem.  Pull out ALL the boards and ram and then turn it on.  You
should still get the beep that signify successful POST (power on self
test)

As John Bartow previously stated, you could have a bad battery for the
Bios so replacing that might be the trick.

GK

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> She's a poor little duck and everything I have tried has failed to revive
> her. I think that she is gone, my beloved Guinevere. Now the question is,
> what do I do with her remains? Specifically, her RAM and hard drives? The
> RAM may be of no use but the hard drives work -- I think.
>
> So what? Do I build a coffin and bury her, which is exactly what I did with
> an old cat named Scotia -- took two days to build her coffin  and then
> interred her while surrounded by a group of friends who loved her.
>
> I don't think any of my friends loved Guinevere the way I did, They just
> tell me to move on and get a new wife. It's not that easy. I wrote several
> books and hundreds of magazine articles with her help, and even though I
> have backups, that's not the issue.
>
> It's heart-breaking. I can't just toss her into a recycle-bin. I can't do
> that. I guess that I have defined the definition of a geek/nerd --someone
> who weeps at the death of a computer.
>
> Everyone says, it's just a chunk of metal; move on, get over her. there are
> lots of tuna in the ocean, and stuff like that. That doesn't erase the pain
> of her demise.
>
> Can anyone advise an amateur on how to determine which part is failing? I
> could replace that part and Guinevere might recover from her illness,
> perhaps only to be demoted to "Email/Printer Server" or somesuch. For about
> $120 CDN, I can replace her with much more contemporary equipment, but
> that's not the point. Much as adults hesitate to place their parents in a
> retirement home, I hesitate as well.
>
> There's another issue, albeit a side issue. Several times over the past ~30
> years, especially in the early days, when something broke or was replaced
> by something faster and smarter, I tossed the older stuff into the bin...
> only to discover that it was now worth many times what I paid originally. I
> was young and stupid, and don't want to repeat that error again.
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Arthur, I am the king of rebuilding computers but sometimes these old
>> boxes have to be retired...technology has moved on so far in twenty years
>> that most modern software wouldn't work...regardless of the OS.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
>> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59:47 AM
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
>>
>> My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
>> She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, something
>> like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of upgrades (replaced
>> the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course the usual OS upgrades.)
>> Now she powers on and I can hear the fan running, and the hard-disk light
>> blinking, but nothing else happens.
>>
>> I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see if I
>> can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally prepared
>> to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a living, but
>> just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just simple email and
>> browsing.
>>
>> The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more than a
>> refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently purchased a
>> refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, and her boyfriend
>> kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about $60.
>>
>> I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper to
>> replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm
>> comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even despite
>> her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has performed
>> very well and I don't want to pull the plug.
>>
>> The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a tablet
>> called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names derive.
>>
>> What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?
>>
>> --
>> Arthur
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> _______________________________________________
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>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Arthur
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-- 
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garykjos at gmail.com

From eptept at gmail.com  Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 2016
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 16:16:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpVAMLWWy47WF82kGbi52mTNhJADvCgAaP_25DdMCZoSYA@mail.gmail.com>

For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it quit
working.  It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in
the Task Manager.   Anyone experience anything similar?

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 25 20:48:01 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (peter.brawley at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:48:01 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
Message-ID: <fad00647-8892-42e9-8143-f407ff427d52@localhost>



Sent using myEarthLink

On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in
the Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

PB

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From df.waters at outlook.com  Sat Nov 26 10:06:03 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 16:06:03 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
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References: <fad00647-8892-42e9-8143-f407ff427d52@localhost>
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W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers locked up first.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 20:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge



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On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in the Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

PB

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov 26 22:11:11 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 21:11:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working
 Solution)
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There is a PDF viewer/printer from Mozella that runs on any browser. If you can not get a PDF file to view and to print check out the following:

https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/

With this you might be able to circumnavigate the whole problem. Check out the demo. All that is needed is the name and the preset directory, of the PDF file. I understand that Access MDB can call/open to a webpage:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/308459#bookmark-4

There is a Demo link, link to download the webcode and a full set of instruction on how to use it via the GitHub project link. 

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>, "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>, "Off Topic" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:53:56 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Dear List(s):

Well I'm back to trying to solve this problem of "Access has stopped
working".  The delay helped by reducing the number of times access stops
working, but still occurs randomly.

So I thought about changing the default printer to a pdf printer and then
changing back to the default.  Which works OK except the pdf printer pops up
a dialog box asking what to name the pdf file and where to store it. 

Does anyone know of a pdf printer that can be controlled from within Access
so that the name and path of the pdf file can be sent to the printer?

MTIA


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
760-683-5777
www.bchacc.com
www.e-z-mrp.com
Skype: rocky.smolin
 



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 5:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

Glad to hear that something is working!

I do have this working at 3 customers for many years at 0.1 seconds w/o any
errors.  1 second doesn't affect a user much but I'd still try 0.5 seconds.
Hope that works!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 19:19
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

All:

I put the Pause function in and it seemed to work on my machine.  But still
have the problem at the client site. It didn't work here at .1 seconds, but
at 1 second it did.

That same dll seems to be in the error log.  But I don't find anything on
the internets about it. 

Any more ideas?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

Hi Rocky,

I think Jim is correct.

First, save this as a Public Sub.
'---------------------
Public Sub Pause(Optional sngNumberOfSeconds As Single = 0.1)
    On Error GoTo EH

    '-- Purpose:  This will 'pause' running code so that Access can get
other things done

    Dim sngPauseTime As Single
    Dim sngStart As Single

    If sngNumberOfSeconds = 0 Then Exit Sub

    sngPauseTime = sngNumberOfSeconds
    sngStart = Timer
    Do While Timer < sngStart + sngPauseTime
        DoEvents
    Loop

EH:
    Exit Sub

End Sub
'--------------------------

Next, replace the 2nd DoEvents with Call Pause.  I do this in my code but I
didn't think you would need it.

By default, Pause will run a loop of DoEvents for 1/10 of a second.

Again, Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
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Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Dan, Et Al:

Here's a clue, maybe.  That code didn't work - got the "Access has stopped
working" message.  BUT!

When I put a breakpoint into the code before the open query and single
stepped through it (F8), it worked!

So it would seem to be some kind of timing issue?

I did put the DoEvents in like you said:

DoCmd.OpenQuery "qryActiveUser"
DoEvents
DoCmd.OpenReport "rptRentalAgreement", acPreview, , , acHidden DoEvents
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", acFormatPDF,
strRAPDFName, False  ', "", acExportQualityPrint DoEvents 'DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strRAPDFName,
False ', "", acExportQualityPrint DoCmd.Close acReport,
"rptRentalAgreement", acSaveNo DoCmd.Close acQuery, "qryActiveUser"

Any clue here?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

This is indeed a bug which has been around for years.  This is how I handle
it in my system.

'----------------------------

            '-- To resolve a 2046 bug in Access (see KB 244695) a software
object must be opened before the 'OutputTo' method is called.

            '-- Open any read-only query (this opens a database window
referred to in KB 244695)
            DoCmd.OpenQuery "qryGlobalErrors"

            '-- Output report from the file it's in
            If varObjectType = acReport Then

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OpenReport stgObjectName, acViewPreview, , , acHidden

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, stgObjectName, acFormatPDF,
stgAccessObjectPath

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.Close acReport, stgObjectName, acSaveNo

            Else

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OutputTo varObjectType, stgObjectName,
varOutputFormat, stgAccessObjectPath

            End If

            '-- Close the read-only query
            DoCmd.Close acQuery, "qryGlobalErrors"

'----------------------------

Good Luck!
Dan

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From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!


 Would be good to get the fault from the event log and then see if it is the
same in each case.

  If it is, then your probably tripping over a bug.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 01:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

I'll try that tomorrow. Un-commenting the last two parameters of the
OutputTo didn't change the result.  Still barfed.  

I assume then after the output to you close the hidden report?

Thx

R

-----Original Message-----
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David Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'List'; 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

Hi Rocky,

I had a similar situation.  I read somewhere that opening the report hidden
first solves the problem

DoCmd.OpenReport " rptRentalAgreement ", acPreview, , , acHidden
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)",
strRAPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint


I also noticed in the second line above (copied from your code) you have a '
after False - this may cause a problem as well.

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand



-----Original Message-----
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Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 5:05 p.m.
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

Dear List(s):

 

I am running an accdb in A2010.  I want to convert a report to a pdf and
attach it to an email.  This works perfectly on my machine.  

 

At the client site it does not. I spent two hours there today trying
everything I could think of -  checking Microsoft update for patches fixes,
updates, etc., decompiling, compact and repair, lacing the code with
DoEvents, running as administrator - nothing worked.  I did track the
problematic line of code.  It is the line with 

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport

 

And Access Stopped Working on this line of code almost every time.  I say
almost because a couple of times it ran - generated both pdfs and popped up
the email with the two report pdfs attached!  Which is why I tried the
DoEvents.  But it barfed pretty consistently on that first DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport,

 

Here's the code:

 

strFrontEndPath = db.Name

Do While Right(strFrontEndPath, 1) <> "\"

    strFrontEndPath = Left(strFrontEndPath, Len(strFrontEndPath) - 1)

Loop

strRAPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "RentalAgreement-" _

    & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _

    & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"

strRAPDFName = Replace(strRAPDFName, "*", "")

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)",
strRAPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint

'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptRentalAgreement", , strRAPDFName, , False)

 

strCCPPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "CreditCardPermission-" _

    & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _

    & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"

strCCPPDFName = Replace(strCCPPDFName, "*", "")

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail",
"PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strCCPPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint

'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail", , strCCPPDFName,
, False)

 

 

You can see the previous legacy code which worked for a long time in A2003 -
the calls to ConvertToPDF - which I have commented out.  That doesn't work
anymore.  

 

So I'm really stumped.  Has anyone had this problem and found a solution?
Two martinis to the genius who can post an effective fix.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

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Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Nov 26 23:21:48 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 21:21:48 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working
 Solution)
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Thank you.  I'll check it out.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working
Solution)

There is a PDF viewer/printer from Mozella that runs on any browser. If you
can not get a PDF file to view and to print check out the following:

https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/

With this you might be able to circumnavigate the whole problem. Check out
the demo. All that is needed is the name and the preset directory, of the
PDF file. I understand that Access MDB can call/open to a webpage:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/308459#bookmark-4

There is a Demo link, link to download the webcode and a full set of
instruction on how to use it via the GitHub project link. 

Jim 

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>, "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:53:56 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working
Solution)

Dear List(s):

Well I'm back to trying to solve this problem of "Access has stopped
working".  The delay helped by reducing the number of times access stops
working, but still occurs randomly.

So I thought about changing the default printer to a pdf printer and then
changing back to the default.  Which works OK except the pdf printer pops up
a dialog box asking what to name the pdf file and where to store it. 

Does anyone know of a pdf printer that can be controlled from within Access
so that the name and path of the pdf file can be sent to the printer?

MTIA


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
760-683-5777
www.bchacc.com
www.e-z-mrp.com
Skype: rocky.smolin
 



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 5:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

Glad to hear that something is working!

I do have this working at 3 customers for many years at 0.1 seconds w/o any
errors.  1 second doesn't affect a user much but I'd still try 0.5 seconds.
Hope that works!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 19:19
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

All:

I put the Pause function in and it seemed to work on my machine.  But still
have the problem at the client site. It didn't work here at .1 seconds, but
at 1 second it did.

That same dll seems to be in the error log.  But I don't find anything on
the internets about it. 

Any more ideas?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

Hi Rocky,

I think Jim is correct.

First, save this as a Public Sub.
'---------------------
Public Sub Pause(Optional sngNumberOfSeconds As Single = 0.1)
    On Error GoTo EH

    '-- Purpose:  This will 'pause' running code so that Access can get
other things done

    Dim sngPauseTime As Single
    Dim sngStart As Single

    If sngNumberOfSeconds = 0 Then Exit Sub

    sngPauseTime = sngNumberOfSeconds
    sngStart = Timer
    Do While Timer < sngStart + sngPauseTime
        DoEvents
    Loop

EH:
    Exit Sub

End Sub
'--------------------------

Next, replace the 2nd DoEvents with Call Pause.  I do this in my code but I
didn't think you would need it.

By default, Pause will run a loop of DoEvents for 1/10 of a second.

Again, Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Dan, Et Al:

Here's a clue, maybe.  That code didn't work - got the "Access has stopped
working" message.  BUT!

When I put a breakpoint into the code before the open query and single
stepped through it (F8), it worked!

So it would seem to be some kind of timing issue?

I did put the DoEvents in like you said:

DoCmd.OpenQuery "qryActiveUser"
DoEvents
DoCmd.OpenReport "rptRentalAgreement", acPreview, , , acHidden DoEvents
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", acFormatPDF,
strRAPDFName, False  ', "", acExportQualityPrint DoEvents 'DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strRAPDFName,
False ', "", acExportQualityPrint DoCmd.Close acReport,
"rptRentalAgreement", acSaveNo DoCmd.Close acQuery, "qryActiveUser"

Any clue here?

TIA

Rocky


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From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working! (Working Solution)

Hi Rocky,

This is indeed a bug which has been around for years.  This is how I handle
it in my system.

'----------------------------

            '-- To resolve a 2046 bug in Access (see KB 244695) a software
object must be opened before the 'OutputTo' method is called.

            '-- Open any read-only query (this opens a database window
referred to in KB 244695)
            DoCmd.OpenQuery "qryGlobalErrors"

            '-- Output report from the file it's in
            If varObjectType = acReport Then

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OpenReport stgObjectName, acViewPreview, , , acHidden

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, stgObjectName, acFormatPDF,
stgAccessObjectPath

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.Close acReport, stgObjectName, acSaveNo

            Else

                DoEvents
                DoCmd.OutputTo varObjectType, stgObjectName,
varOutputFormat, stgAccessObjectPath

            End If

            '-- Close the read-only query
            DoCmd.Close acQuery, "qryGlobalErrors"

'----------------------------

Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Dettman
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!


 Would be good to get the fault from the event log and then see if it is the
same in each case.

  If it is, then your probably tripping over a bug.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 01:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

I'll try that tomorrow. Un-commenting the last two parameters of the
OutputTo didn't change the result.  Still barfed.  

I assume then after the output to you close the hidden report?

Thx

R

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
David Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'List'; 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

Hi Rocky,

I had a similar situation.  I read somewhere that opening the report hidden
first solves the problem

DoCmd.OpenReport " rptRentalAgreement ", acPreview, , , acHidden
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)",
strRAPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint


I also noticed in the second line above (copied from your code) you have a '
after False - this may cause a problem as well.

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand



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Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 5:05 p.m.
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [AccessD] Access Has Stopped Working!

Dear List(s):

 

I am running an accdb in A2010.  I want to convert a report to a pdf and
attach it to an email.  This works perfectly on my machine.  

 

At the client site it does not. I spent two hours there today trying
everything I could think of -  checking Microsoft update for patches fixes,
updates, etc., decompiling, compact and repair, lacing the code with
DoEvents, running as administrator - nothing worked.  I did track the
problematic line of code.  It is the line with 

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport

 

And Access Stopped Working on this line of code almost every time.  I say
almost because a couple of times it ran - generated both pdfs and popped up
the email with the two report pdfs attached!  Which is why I tried the
DoEvents.  But it barfed pretty consistently on that first DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport,

 

Here's the code:

 

strFrontEndPath = db.Name

Do While Right(strFrontEndPath, 1) <> "\"

    strFrontEndPath = Left(strFrontEndPath, Len(strFrontEndPath) - 1)

Loop

strRAPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "RentalAgreement-" _

    & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _

    & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"

strRAPDFName = Replace(strRAPDFName, "*", "")

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptRentalAgreement", "PDFFormat(*.pdf)",
strRAPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint

'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptRentalAgreement", , strRAPDFName, , False)

 

strCCPPDFName = strFrontEndPath & "CreditCardPermission-" _

    & Me.cboNameAndAddress.Column(1) & "-" _

    & Me.fldRAHOrderNumber & ".pdf"

strCCPPDFName = Replace(strCCPPDFName, "*", "")

 

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail",
"PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strCCPPDFName, False ', "", acExportQualityPrint

'Call ConvertReportToPDF("rptCreditCardPermissionForEmail", , strCCPPDFName,
, False)

 

 

You can see the previous legacy code which worked for a long time in A2003 -
the calls to ConvertToPDF - which I have commented out.  That doesn't work
anymore.  

 

So I'm really stumped.  Has anyone had this problem and found a solution?
Two martinis to the genius who can post an effective fix.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov 26 23:29:22 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 22:29:22 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
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In a few years it will all be worked out.

Jim

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W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers locked up first.

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On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
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Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov 26 23:48:40 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 22:48:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
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https://system76.com/laptops/oryx

64 GB RAM, SSD, up to 5 TB HD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10-Series GPUs video card, 6th Gen Intel Core i7 ? 3.6 GHz Quad-Core and a 4K display (over 3 million pixels more than the Retina display).

Those setting, put any MAC and probably any other laptop configuration to shame. :-)

Jim


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov 27 01:10:07 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 23:10:07 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
In-Reply-To: <1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <033401d2487d$48b5edc0$da21c940$@bchacc.com>

And under $2k!

Shazam!

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:49 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present

https://system76.com/laptops/oryx

64 GB RAM, SSD, up to 5 TB HD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10-Series GPUs video card, 6th Gen Intel Core i7 ? 3.6 GHz Quad-Core and a 4K display (over 3 million pixels more than the Retina display).

Those setting, put any MAC and probably any other laptop configuration to shame. :-)

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 27 04:44:34 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:44:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
In-Reply-To: <033401d2487d$48b5edc0$da21c940$@bchacc.com>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<033401d2487d$48b5edc0$da21c940$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <1831069079.101154724.1480243474223.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Actually, loaded to the hilt looks like $5K.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present

And under $2k!

Shazam!

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:49 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present

https://system76.com/laptops/oryx

64 GB RAM, SSD, up to 5 TB HD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10-Series GPUs video card, 6th Gen Intel Core i7 ? 3.6 GHz Quad-Core and a 4K display (over 3 million pixels more than the Retina display).

Those setting, put any MAC and probably any other laptop configuration to shame. :-)

Jim

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From df.waters at outlook.com  Sun Nov 27 10:11:32 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 16:11:32 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
In-Reply-To: <754994788.100943633.1480224562405.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <fad00647-8892-42e9-8143-f407ff427d52@localhost>
	<BN3PR19MB049796BB26BDB421BB259069F6880@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<754994788.100943633.1480224562405.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BN3PR19MB04973F9EF421D13D5159C544F68B0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

That's for sure!  This morning I get to work in five minute increments between forced restarts.  

I've tried many things to solve this, but so far no luck.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 23:29
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

In a few years it will all be worked out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:06:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers locked up first.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 20:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge



Sent using myEarthLink

On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in the Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

PB

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Sun Nov 27 13:57:58 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 13:57:58 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
In-Reply-To: <1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <030d01d248e8$8d42e630$a7c8b290$@winhaven.net>

I'd drop it within the first month. :-P

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:49 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present

https://system76.com/laptops/oryx

64 GB RAM, SSD, up to 5 TB HD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10-Series GPUs video card, 6th Gen Intel Core i7 ? 3.6 GHz Quad-Core and a 4K display (over 3 million pixels more than the Retina display).

Those setting, put any MAC and probably any other laptop configuration to shame. :-)

Jim

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Nov 27 14:13:11 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:13:11 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
In-Reply-To: <030d01d248e8$8d42e630$a7c8b290$@winhaven.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>	<1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<030d01d248e8$8d42e630$a7c8b290$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <006f01d248ea$aeb26640$0c1732c0$@gmail.com>

I was smiling until I saw the price tag. Geez Louise!

Susan H. 

I'd drop it within the first month. :-P

https://system76.com/laptops/oryx



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 27 14:33:45 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 13:33:45 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
In-Reply-To: <BN3PR19MB04973F9EF421D13D5159C544F68B0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <fad00647-8892-42e9-8143-f407ff427d52@localhost>
	<BN3PR19MB049796BB26BDB421BB259069F6880@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<754994788.100943633.1480224562405.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<BN3PR19MB04973F9EF421D13D5159C544F68B0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <740974881.102106962.1480278825697.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Dan:

There sounds like there is definitely something wrong with your current installation. Is there a log of events or an error that appears?:

http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/6-ways-to-open-event-viewer-in-windows-10.html

For the record, such a sever system reaction, seems to be a hardware issue(?) or an incorrect driver issue. Is your system capable of running a full update session before it carshes? Have you tried running start boot command system checkers...testing memory and testing for hard drive faults would be easy. I have no idea how good the following list of hardware testing products are but I would think it is a good place to start:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortdate/diagnostics.html 

PS: Have you tried changing your browser as there are many very nice products available. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

That's for sure!  This morning I get to work in five minute increments between forced restarts.  

I've tried many things to solve this, but so far no luck.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 23:29
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

In a few years it will all be worked out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:06:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers locked up first.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 20:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge



Sent using myEarthLink

On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in the Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

PB

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Sun Nov 27 15:12:56 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:12:56 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
In-Reply-To: <006f01d248ea$aeb26640$0c1732c0$@gmail.com>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>	<1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>	<030d01d248e8$8d42e630$a7c8b290$@winhaven.net>
	<006f01d248ea$aeb26640$0c1732c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <035a01d248f3$06b7d750$142785f0$@winhaven.net>

I wouldn't drop it if it wasn't expensive ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 2:13 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present

I was smiling until I saw the price tag. Geez Louise!

Susan H. 

I'd drop it within the first month. :-P

https://system76.com/laptops/oryx


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 27 16:10:37 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:10:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
In-Reply-To: <030d01d248e8$8d42e630$a7c8b290$@winhaven.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<030d01d248e8$8d42e630$a7c8b290$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <558250743.102272433.1480284637003.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Do you have insurance? ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:57:58 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present

I'd drop it within the first month. :-P

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:49 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present

https://system76.com/laptops/oryx

64 GB RAM, SSD, up to 5 TB HD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10-Series GPUs video card, 6th Gen Intel Core i7 ? 3.6 GHz Quad-Core and a 4K display (over 3 million pixels more than the Retina display).

Those setting, put any MAC and probably any other laptop configuration to shame. :-)

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 27 16:13:11 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:13:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
In-Reply-To: <006f01d248ea$aeb26640$0c1732c0$@gmail.com>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<030d01d248e8$8d42e630$a7c8b290$@winhaven.net>
	<006f01d248ea$aeb26640$0c1732c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1686632495.102275793.1480284791964.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Susan:

My thoughts too...that is why the post heading is "A nice Christmas present" and not "My Christmas present". ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:13:11 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present

I was smiling until I saw the price tag. Geez Louise!

Susan H. 

I'd drop it within the first month. :-P

https://system76.com/laptops/oryx


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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Nov 27 16:37:26 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 17:37:26 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice Christmas present
In-Reply-To: <1686632495.102275793.1480284791964.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<580063183.91886222.1479936064438.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>	<1543419072.100958584.1480225720428.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>	<030d01d248e8$8d42e630$a7c8b290$@winhaven.net>	<006f01d248ea$aeb26640$0c1732c0$@gmail.com>
	<1686632495.102275793.1480284791964.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000b01d248fe$d50fc800$7f2f5800$@gmail.com>

LOL... laughed until I coughed.. 

Susan H. 


Hi Susan:

My thoughts too...that is why the post heading is "A nice Christmas present"
and not "My Christmas present". ;-)

Jim


I was smiling until I saw the price tag. Geez Louise!

Susan H. 

I'd drop it within the first month. :-P

https://system76.com/laptops/oryx




From df.waters at outlook.com  Sun Nov 27 19:14:55 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 01:14:55 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
In-Reply-To: <740974881.102106962.1480278825697.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <fad00647-8892-42e9-8143-f407ff427d52@localhost>
	<BN3PR19MB049796BB26BDB421BB259069F6880@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<754994788.100943633.1480224562405.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<BN3PR19MB04973F9EF421D13D5159C544F68B0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<740974881.102106962.1480278825697.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BN3PR19MB04978E7CC0EC371F64C9FB61F68A0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim,

This afternoon I cloned my C drive (SSD) to a HDD and am using that as the boot drive.  So far, no problems!

Looks like tomorrow I'll be buying a new SSD from the local Best Buy.

The symptoms I was having are all included when people on-line described the problems they were having with W10 Anniversary Update - so it took me a while to suspect a hardware problem.  SSD's are supposed to last longer than this one did!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 14:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Dan:

There sounds like there is definitely something wrong with your current installation. Is there a log of events or an error that appears?:

http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/6-ways-to-open-event-viewer-in-windows-10.html

For the record, such a sever system reaction, seems to be a hardware issue(?) or an incorrect driver issue. Is your system capable of running a full update session before it carshes? Have you tried running start boot command system checkers...testing memory and testing for hard drive faults would be easy. I have no idea how good the following list of hardware testing products are but I would think it is a good place to start:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortdate/diagnostics.html 

PS: Have you tried changing your browser as there are many very nice products available. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

That's for sure!  This morning I get to work in five minute increments between forced restarts.  

I've tried many things to solve this, but so far no luck.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 23:29
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

In a few years it will all be worked out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:06:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers locked up first.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 20:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge



Sent using myEarthLink

On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in the Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

PB

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 28 10:23:03 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 08:23:03 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft tells devs: Whatever you're doing in Linux,
 Windows 10 will soon do it too
Message-ID: <045d01d24993$b2236550$166a2ff0$@bchacc.com>

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-tells-devs-whatever-youre-doin
g-in-linux-windows-10-will-soon-do-it-too/?ftag=TRE684d531
<http://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-tells-devs-whatever-youre-doi
ng-in-linux-windows-10-will-soon-do-it-too/?ftag=TRE684d531&bhid=22241133460
340104310638886868896> &bhid=22241133460340104310638886868896

 

 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 28 10:28:42 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 08:28:42 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft tells devs: Whatever you're doing in Linux,
 Windows 10 will soon do it too
In-Reply-To: <045d01d24993$b2236550$166a2ff0$@bchacc.com>
References: <045d01d24993$b2236550$166a2ff0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <046201d24994$7c07f750$7417e5f0$@bchacc.com>

http://tinyurl.com/zetmyqp

r

-----Original Message-----
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Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:23 AM
To: List; 'Noah Sutton-Smolin'; maxsutsmo at gmail.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft tells devs: Whatever you're doing in Linux,
Windows 10 will soon do it too

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-tells-devs-whatever-youre-doin
g-in-linux-windows-10-will-soon-do-it-too/?ftag=TRE684d531

<http://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-tells-devs-whatever-youre-doi
ng-in-linux-windows-10-will-soon-do-it-too/?ftag=TRE684d531&bhid=22241133460
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 28 10:54:08 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:54:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft tells devs: Whatever you're doing in Linux,
 Windows 10 will soon do it too
In-Reply-To: <046201d24994$7c07f750$7417e5f0$@bchacc.com>
References: <045d01d24993$b2236550$166a2ff0$@bchacc.com>
	<046201d24994$7c07f750$7417e5f0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <943384221.104296839.1480352048938.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

It all seems very positive.

The migration has been both ways. From Linux and to Linux; To: MS SQL and ASP.Net editor, From: Bash Scripting. This migration is driven by two specific reasons; one, most of everything off the PC desktop runs on Linux, progress has one direction and two, Linux is far faster and more stable. 

I suspect at one time in the future, it will become apparent, with a major portion of Microsoft applications running on Linux, given there is no profit on an OS (all free) and the actual applications are the money streams, why waste resources and money on something that is not profitable. At that point of realization, Microsoft will morph its Windows distro to Linux.
   
Jim

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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:28:42 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Microsoft tells devs: Whatever you're doing in Linux, Windows 10 will soon do it too

http://tinyurl.com/zetmyqp

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Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:23 AM
To: List; 'Noah Sutton-Smolin'; maxsutsmo at gmail.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft tells devs: Whatever you're doing in Linux,
Windows 10 will soon do it too

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-tells-devs-whatever-youre-doin
g-in-linux-windows-10-will-soon-do-it-too/?ftag=TRE684d531

<http://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-tells-devs-whatever-youre-doi
ng-in-linux-windows-10-will-soon-do-it-too/?ftag=TRE684d531&bhid=22241133460
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Nov 28 12:48:24 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:48:24 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] What exactly is a petaflop?
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g0k-yiG+W8Z7a8xrP2kh6RQ3268=2f1JDZOv-qm0_iDg@mail.gmail.com>

I've looked it up and arrived at a general definition, but I have no idea
what that definition means in practical hardware, nor what it might be
useful for. Apparently it means 1,000 trillion instructions per second (a
quadrillion, if memory serves), but what sort of hardware is capable of
that? Certainly nothing I could afford! Is this the sort of thing Deep Blue
was made of? What about these machines and software such as VaultDB which
claim to claim numerous server-CPUs as a single workspace and thus enable
100 GB of RAM to be one single DB workspace?

I'm afraid that I don't understand any of this any more.

-- 
Arthur

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 28 17:03:53 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:03:53 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] What exactly is a petaflop?
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g0k-yiG+W8Z7a8xrP2kh6RQ3268=2f1JDZOv-qm0_iDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1g0k-yiG+W8Z7a8xrP2kh6RQ3268=2f1JDZOv-qm0_iDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <583CB7D9.22414.85879098@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Flops (floating point instructions per second) are used as a general indicator of a CPUs 
performance since much computing involves manipulation of floating point numbers.

A gigaflop is 10^9 flops    or 1,000,000,000
A petaflop is 10^15 flops  or 1,000,000,000,000,000

A modern  Intel i7 CPU found in today's  top end PCs and laptops will probably come in at 
somewhere around 100 gigaflops. (10^11 flops)

So a 1 petaflop computer would have approximetly the power of 10^4 or 10,000 PCs.

The current record for a super computer is chinese and  has been measured at 93 petaflops, 
so that one is roughly euqivalent to  to 930,000 PCs  (call it a million in round figures)


(I hope I 've got the exponent math correct, if not - someone will correct me)



On 28 Nov 2016 at 13:48, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I've looked it up and arrived at a general definition, but I have no
> idea what that definition means in practical hardware, nor what it
> might be useful for. Apparently it means 1,000 trillion instructions
> per second (a quadrillion, if memory serves), but what sort of
> hardware is capable of that? Certainly nothing I could afford! Is this
> the sort of thing Deep Blue was made of? What about these machines and
> software such as VaultDB which claim to claim numerous server-CPUs as
> a single workspace and thus enable 100 GB of RAM to be one single DB
> workspace?
> 
> I'm afraid that I don't understand any of this any more.
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Nov 28 19:39:10 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:39:10 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] What exactly is a petaflop?
In-Reply-To: <583CB7D9.22414.85879098@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1g0k-yiG+W8Z7a8xrP2kh6RQ3268=2f1JDZOv-qm0_iDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<583CB7D9.22414.85879098@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1htH5v6a-Hmrx+5+BNZo4gpCjEiRT7_AJLiHqTRSLDT0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Given that this is about computer instructions, I admit that I'm at a loss
here. I'm way out of my depth here. And I'm probably not even on the same
planet; it seems that everything I suggest is wrong -- which in itself is
an act of progress.

I think it is safe to say that I have failed most of these tests. The
logical consquent is that you should move on to more intelligent scientists
than I.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> Flops (floating point instructions per second) are used as a general
> indicator of a CPUs
> performance since much computing involves manipulation of floating point
> numbers.
>
> A gigaflop is 10^9 flops    or 1,000,000,000
> A petaflop is 10^15 flops  or 1,000,000,000,000,000
>
> A modern  Intel i7 CPU found in today's  top end PCs and laptops will
> probably come in at
> somewhere around 100 gigaflops. (10^11 flops)
>
> So a 1 petaflop computer would have approximetly the power of 10^4 or
> 10,000 PCs.
>
> The current record for a super computer is chinese and  has been measured
> at 93 petaflops,
> so that one is roughly euqivalent to  to 930,000 PCs  (call it a million
> in round figures)
>
>
> (I hope I 've got the exponent math correct, if not - someone will correct
> me)
>
>
>
> On 28 Nov 2016 at 13:48, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
> > I've looked it up and arrived at a general definition, but I have no
> > idea what that definition means in practical hardware, nor what it
> > might be useful for. Apparently it means 1,000 trillion instructions
> > per second (a quadrillion, if memory serves), but what sort of
> > hardware is capable of that? Certainly nothing I could afford! Is this
> > the sort of thing Deep Blue was made of? What about these machines and
> > software such as VaultDB which claim to claim numerous server-CPUs as
> > a single workspace and thus enable 100 GB of RAM to be one single DB
> > workspace?
> >
> > I'm afraid that I don't understand any of this any more.
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 28 20:13:38 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:13:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
In-Reply-To: <BN3PR19MB04978E7CC0EC371F64C9FB61F68A0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <fad00647-8892-42e9-8143-f407ff427d52@localhost>
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	<BN3PR19MB04973F9EF421D13D5159C544F68B0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<740974881.102106962.1480278825697.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<BN3PR19MB04978E7CC0EC371F64C9FB61F68A0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1847030916.106092466.1480385618916.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Dan:

Looks like you nailed it. :-)

You would think your SSD should still be under warranty at least from the SSD manufacturer. One to two years depending on the drive maker...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:14:55 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Jim,

This afternoon I cloned my C drive (SSD) to a HDD and am using that as the boot drive.  So far, no problems!

Looks like tomorrow I'll be buying a new SSD from the local Best Buy.

The symptoms I was having are all included when people on-line described the problems they were having with W10 Anniversary Update - so it took me a while to suspect a hardware problem.  SSD's are supposed to last longer than this one did!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 14:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Dan:

There sounds like there is definitely something wrong with your current installation. Is there a log of events or an error that appears?:

http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/6-ways-to-open-event-viewer-in-windows-10.html

For the record, such a sever system reaction, seems to be a hardware issue(?) or an incorrect driver issue. Is your system capable of running a full update session before it carshes? Have you tried running start boot command system checkers...testing memory and testing for hard drive faults would be easy. I have no idea how good the following list of hardware testing products are but I would think it is a good place to start:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortdate/diagnostics.html 

PS: Have you tried changing your browser as there are many very nice products available. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

That's for sure!  This morning I get to work in five minute increments between forced restarts.  

I've tried many things to solve this, but so far no luck.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 23:29
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

In a few years it will all be worked out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:06:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers locked up first.

Dan

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Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 20:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge



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On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in the Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

PB

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From df.waters at outlook.com  Tue Nov 29 08:13:51 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:13:51 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
In-Reply-To: <1847030916.106092466.1480385618916.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <fad00647-8892-42e9-8143-f407ff427d52@localhost>
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Hi Jim,

Thanks for reminding me about the warranty!  For this SSD it was 3 years, and I bought it about 2.5 years ago.

So, I will try to prove to myself that it's actually bad and then send it back.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 20:14
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Dan:

Looks like you nailed it. :-)

You would think your SSD should still be under warranty at least from the SSD manufacturer. One to two years depending on the drive maker...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:14:55 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Jim,

This afternoon I cloned my C drive (SSD) to a HDD and am using that as the boot drive.  So far, no problems!

Looks like tomorrow I'll be buying a new SSD from the local Best Buy.

The symptoms I was having are all included when people on-line described the problems they were having with W10 Anniversary Update - so it took me a while to suspect a hardware problem.  SSD's are supposed to last longer than this one did!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 14:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Dan:

There sounds like there is definitely something wrong with your current installation. Is there a log of events or an error that appears?:

http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/6-ways-to-open-event-viewer-in-windows-10.html

For the record, such a sever system reaction, seems to be a hardware issue(?) or an incorrect driver issue. Is your system capable of running a full update session before it carshes? Have you tried running start boot command system checkers...testing memory and testing for hard drive faults would be easy. I have no idea how good the following list of hardware testing products are but I would think it is a good place to start:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortdate/diagnostics.html 

PS: Have you tried changing your browser as there are many very nice products available. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

That's for sure!  This morning I get to work in five minute increments between forced restarts.  

I've tried many things to solve this, but so far no luck.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 23:29
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

In a few years it will all be worked out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:06:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers locked up first.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 20:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge



Sent using myEarthLink

On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in the Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

PB

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Nov 29 08:55:33 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:55:33 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
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Hi Dan,
Some SSD Manufacturers have a testing tool available for download.
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:14 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Jim,

Thanks for reminding me about the warranty!  For this SSD it was 3 years,
and I bought it about 2.5 years ago.

So, I will try to prove to myself that it's actually bad and then send it
back.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 20:14
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Dan:

Looks like you nailed it. :-)

You would think your SSD should still be under warranty at least from the
SSD manufacturer. One to two years depending on the drive maker...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:14:55 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Jim,

This afternoon I cloned my C drive (SSD) to a HDD and am using that as the
boot drive.  So far, no problems!

Looks like tomorrow I'll be buying a new SSD from the local Best Buy.

The symptoms I was having are all included when people on-line described the
problems they were having with W10 Anniversary Update - so it took me a
while to suspect a hardware problem.  SSD's are supposed to last longer than
this one did!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 14:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Dan:

There sounds like there is definitely something wrong with your current
installation. Is there a log of events or an error that appears?:

http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/6-ways-to-open-event-viewer-in-windows-1
0.html

For the record, such a sever system reaction, seems to be a hardware
issue(?) or an incorrect driver issue. Is your system capable of running a
full update session before it carshes? Have you tried running start boot
command system checkers...testing memory and testing for hard drive faults
would be easy. I have no idea how good the following list of hardware
testing products are but I would think it is a good place to start:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortdate/diagnostics.html 

PS: Have you tried changing your browser as there are many very nice
products available. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

That's for sure!  This morning I get to work in five minute increments
between forced restarts.  

I've tried many things to solve this, but so far no luck.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 23:29
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

In a few years it will all be worked out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:06:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers
locked up first.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
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peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 20:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge



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On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in the
Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it
work.

PB

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 29 16:10:48 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:10:48 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] What exactly is a petaflop?
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Here is a link the big systems in the world. Attached is the list of the top 500:

https://www.top500.org/statistics/sublist/

All these super computers, except two, are Linux. Comparing Linux and Windows boxes is not really a fair comparison. The Windows OS is built for singular stand-alone box. The Linux OS is build like lego blocks, just supply the hardware and everything just snaps together...on and on and on...

http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Supercomputer

For the price of $40K you to can have a supercomputer in your basement. Mind you, the electric bill would stagger and that is after the hardware costs. The fastest computer in the world is just using a slightly tricked up version of Ubuntu 14.04 (Kylin) and reaches speeds of 125,435 Teraflops but that should be expected with 10,649,600 Cores. 

Jim

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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 3:03:53 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What exactly is a petaflop?

Flops (floating point instructions per second) are used as a general indicator of a CPUs 
performance since much computing involves manipulation of floating point numbers.

A gigaflop is 10^9 flops    or 1,000,000,000
A petaflop is 10^15 flops  or 1,000,000,000,000,000

A modern  Intel i7 CPU found in today's  top end PCs and laptops will probably come in at 
somewhere around 100 gigaflops. (10^11 flops)

So a 1 petaflop computer would have approximetly the power of 10^4 or 10,000 PCs.

The current record for a super computer is chinese and  has been measured at 93 petaflops, 
so that one is roughly euqivalent to  to 930,000 PCs  (call it a million in round figures)


(I hope I 've got the exponent math correct, if not - someone will correct me)



On 28 Nov 2016 at 13:48, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I've looked it up and arrived at a general definition, but I have no
> idea what that definition means in practical hardware, nor what it
> might be useful for. Apparently it means 1,000 trillion instructions
> per second (a quadrillion, if memory serves), but what sort of
> hardware is capable of that? Certainly nothing I could afford! Is this
> the sort of thing Deep Blue was made of? What about these machines and
> software such as VaultDB which claim to claim numerous server-CPUs as
> a single workspace and thus enable 100 GB of RAM to be one single DB
> workspace?
> 
> I'm afraid that I don't understand any of this any more.
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 29 17:44:29 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 16:44:29 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Edge
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Hi Dan:

Two other notes to think about:
1. If the drive(s) were bought via a credit card, some cards can actually double the warranty period.
2. It is unlikely, your hardware supplier will challenge your assessment as the state of SSD drives are very difficult to assess.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:13:51 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Jim,
Thanks for reminding me about the warranty!  For this SSD it was 3 years, and I bought it about 2.5 years ago.

So, I will try to prove to myself that it's actually bad and then send it back.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 20:14
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Dan:

Looks like you nailed it. :-)

You would think your SSD should still be under warranty at least from the SSD manufacturer. One to two years depending on the drive maker...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:14:55 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Jim,

This afternoon I cloned my C drive (SSD) to a HDD and am using that as the boot drive.  So far, no problems!

Looks like tomorrow I'll be buying a new SSD from the local Best Buy.

The symptoms I was having are all included when people on-line described the problems they were having with W10 Anniversary Update - so it took me a while to suspect a hardware problem.  SSD's are supposed to last longer than this one did!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 14:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

Hi Dan:

There sounds like there is definitely something wrong with your current installation. Is there a log of events or an error that appears?:

http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/6-ways-to-open-event-viewer-in-windows-10.html

For the record, such a sever system reaction, seems to be a hardware issue(?) or an incorrect driver issue. Is your system capable of running a full update session before it carshes? Have you tried running start boot command system checkers...testing memory and testing for hard drive faults would be easy. I have no idea how good the following list of hardware testing products are but I would think it is a good place to start:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortdate/diagnostics.html 

PS: Have you tried changing your browser as there are many very nice products available. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

That's for sure!  This morning I get to work in five minute increments between forced restarts.  

I've tried many things to solve this, but so far no luck.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 23:29
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

In a few years it will all be worked out.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:06:03 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge

W10 Anniversary has a freezing issue - my experience was that the browsers locked up first.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 20:48
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Edge



Sent using myEarthLink

On Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 CST 2016 Ed Tesiny wrote:
> For some reason Edge is not working on my Win 10 laptop, rather it 
> quit
working. It just hangs with a mostly blank page and has to be killed in the Task Manager. Anyone experience anything similar?

Did similar tricks here on several occasions, I no longer try to make it work.

PB

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 29 19:12:55 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:12:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux running Windows applications
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Here is a simple step by step method to get your Windows applications running on your favourite Linux distro:

http://bit.ly/2fJDC9O

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 29 19:35:07 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:35:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Getting Linux running on Windows 10
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It didn't take long for the Linux crowd to port Ubuntu and now Arch Linux, ported to Windows using a new feature called the ?Windows Subsystem for Linux? or the WSL. The results are quite impressive and it blows the concept of not mucking with Windows subsystem...WSL appears more stable than initially stated:

http://zd.net/2gHidPG

...and...

http://bit.ly/2gv0rjj

...and...

https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows/issues/637

There are still plenty of bugs but by Christmas most should be resolved. The only downside that has been noted is that this may make the distros a more little insecure. ;-) 

Jim



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Nov 30 08:18:12 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 07:18:12 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency Bulletin: Firefox 0 day vulnerability
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWGRr1mYEmhcQhpvHZwp-1ZdCYKZJVAsUHE_daMoY=1sJA@mail.gmail.com>

]We're sending out this unscheduled emergency bulletin
[https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/11/emergency-bulletin-firefox-0-day-wild/?utm_source=list&utm_campaign=113016&utm_medium=email]
to alert you that there is a 0 day vulnerability in the wild that
affects Firefox web browsers and the Tor browser bundle. The
vulnerability emerged a few hours ago.

We recommend you temporarily switch to a non-firefox based browser
until the Firefox dev team has a chance to release a fix. That should
happen quite quickly.

We would like to encourage you to share this alert with the larger web
community. It's unusual for us to send out a non-WordPress related
vulnerability, but the impact of this may be wide-spread. We also
suspect that WordPress websites may be used as a watering hole to
infect vulnerable web browsers using this new exploit.

Full details on our blog...
[https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/11/emergency-bulletin-firefox-0-day-wild/?utm_source=list&utm_campaign=113016&utm_medium=email

Regards,


Mark Maunder
Wordfence Founder & CEO

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov 30 17:17:29 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 09:17:29 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Emergency Bulletin: Firefox 0 day vulnerability
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Update at 2:32pm PST / 5:32pm EST: Firefox released a fix for this a few minutes ago. 
Update to Firefox 50.0.2 now to patch this vulnerability. Tor have also released a fix with 
version 6.0.7 of their browser.There is also a Thunderbird fix out, version 45.5.1. 

On 30 Nov 2016 at 7:18, Bryan Carbonnell wrote:

> ]We're sending out this unscheduled emergency bulletin
> [https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/11/emergency-bulletin-firefox-0-d
> ay-wild/?utm_source=list&utm_campaign=113016&utm_medium=email] to
> alert you that there is a 0 day vulnerability in the wild that affects
> Firefox web browsers and the Tor browser bundle. The vulnerability
> emerged a few hours ago.
> 
> We recommend you temporarily switch to a non-firefox based browser
> until the Firefox dev team has a chance to release a fix. That should
> happen quite quickly.
> 
> We would like to encourage you to share this alert with the larger web
> community. It's unusual for us to send out a non-WordPress related
> vulnerability, but the impact of this may be wide-spread. We also
> suspect that WordPress websites may be used as a watering hole to
> infect vulnerable web browsers using this new exploit.
> 
> Full details on our blog...
> [https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/11/emergency-bulletin-firefox-0-d
> ay-wild/?utm_source=list&utm_campaign=113016&utm_medium=email
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Mark Maunder
> Wordfence Founder & CEO
> 
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
> well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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