From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Oct  4 15:43:14 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:43:14 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A unique CRM product
In-Reply-To: <1047262744.75264724.1473198259076.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <762966726.99458963.1475613794070.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

For those who need or use CRM type products here is a link to one very good offering with a very different way of managing entries:

http://zurmo.org/

It is OS and runs on all platforms.

Jim 

From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 08:39:10 2016
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:39:10 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Cross Posted] Website development question
Message-ID: <CAB8qa0bT7_qdf-DojGnivUPgt0jWuDuUgag+xQimrP9RoTztSA@mail.gmail.com>

Is there anyone on here that is VERY familiar with JOOMLA website
development?  I would like to ask a few questions, off list, as I foolishly
agreed to move and upgrade a JOOMLA website and now have a couple issues
that I need help with.

If you have any experience with JOOMLA, please contact me directly at jeff
@ outbaktech .com.  (Please not the unusual spelling of the email sddress)



Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD

Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct  6 01:22:11 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 00:22:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Cross Posted] Website development question
In-Reply-To: <CAB8qa0bT7_qdf-DojGnivUPgt0jWuDuUgag+xQimrP9RoTztSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <568874489.100792620.1475734931722.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi Jeff:

Unfortunately not. There is a conference on the product, in Vancouver, early in November.

It does sound like it is a fun product to play with.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Barrows" <jeff.developer at gmail.com>
To: "Tech List" <dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>, "Dba-Vb" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>, "Off Topic" <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>, "accessd" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 6:39:10 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] [Cross Posted] Website development question

Is there anyone on here that is VERY familiar with JOOMLA website
development?  I would like to ask a few questions, off list, as I foolishly
agreed to move and upgrade a JOOMLA website and now have a couple issues
that I need help with.

If you have any experience with JOOMLA, please contact me directly at jeff
@ outbaktech .com.  (Please not the unusual spelling of the email sddress)



Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD

Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct  6 14:21:30 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:21:30 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux 4.8 released with a bug
In-Reply-To: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <130730082.101311571.1475781690269.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

It appears that the latest Linux version, 4.8 has bugs in it and it appears that Linus Torvalds has singles out a specific programmer, which seems very unprofessional.

http://bit.ly/2dVQ7Uo and http://bit.ly/2dBHKdf

But upon further investigation the bug(s) are not really bugs but are from a bug handling event left in the code, designed to catch errors, after it had been shipped. A particular programmer tasked with doing the finally cleanup over-looked the error event. Attached is a link to the code left in the shipped latest version, which now will just have to be shipped again. It is unlikely that upline developers have started to deploy this version as the error was caught so quickly but... Considering that Linus officially told all his development teams to never use a particular bedugging feature as early as 2002.

https://lwn.net/Articles/13183/

Aside: I had a similar problem many years ago, in this case it was with VB, because I forgot to remove my testing code....a very embarrassing management demonstration followed.
 
Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct  7 00:03:34 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 23:03:34 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Hacking for fun
In-Reply-To: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <524600132.101766875.1475816614814.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

If anyone has ever wanted to see just how easy it is to hack another website a good place to start would be running up a copy of Kali Linux (https://www.kali.org/) on your old laptop, You could show your friends just how easy it is to hack into Democratic National Committee (DNC). Don't worry about being caught as the people at the DNC will only blame the Russians and look no further.

https://www.kali.org/downloads/

For best result always use a VPN (one good company is: http://bit.ly/2cYiL1g ...for extra security pay via bitcoins and spoof your MAC Address. Don't forget to change both your station and router MAC Address...and change them back after an evening of wandering. 

PS: Become a Offensive Security Certified Professionals (OSCP). Learn hands-on, real world penetration testing from the creators of Kali Linux. Full training courses available. :-)

Jim    

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 08:48:17 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:48:17 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
Message-ID: <000001d222fc$f5337960$df9a6c20$@gmail.com>

How do you pronounce .iso? Do you use the letters or a word - I know I say
image for an .img file, not i-m-g. 

 

Susan H. 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 10 09:22:58 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 14:22:58 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

Iso can be regarded as a small word like bat and exe and doc. Here we pronounce the I as in International.

It'a bit more difficult with xls and indeed xlsx, while img luckily don't have to be spelled out like you do for omg.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
Sendt: 10. oktober 2016 15:48
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] pronounciation

How do you pronounce .iso? Do you use the letters or a word - I know I say image for an .img file, not i-m-g. 

 Susan H. 


From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 09:27:06 2016
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:27:06 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>

In my experience, it has always been said as a word, pronounced as eye-so.


On 10/10/16, 9:22 AM, "dba-Tech on behalf of Gustav Brock" <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

    Hi Susan
    
    Iso can be regarded as a small word like bat and exe and doc. Here we pronounce the I as in International.
    
    It'a bit more difficult with xls and indeed xlsx, while img luckily don't have to be spelled out like you do for omg.
    
    /gustav
    
    -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
    Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
    Sendt: 10. oktober 2016 15:48
    Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
    Emne: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
    
    How do you pronounce .iso? Do you use the letters or a word - I know I say image for an .img file, not i-m-g. 
    
     Susan H. 
    
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    dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Oct 10 18:02:20 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:02:20 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57FC1DFC.24221.6EDBCA76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I'l go along with that.

On 10 Oct 2016 at 9:27, Jeff Barrows wrote:

> In my experience, it has always been said as a word, pronounced as
> eye-so.
> 
> 
> On 10/10/16, 9:22 AM, "dba-Tech on behalf of Gustav Brock"
> <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of gustav at cactus.dk>
> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Susan
> 
>     Iso can be regarded as a small word like bat and exe and doc. Here
>     we pronounce the I as in International.
> 
>     It'a bit more difficult with xls and indeed xlsx, while img
>     luckily don't have to be spelled out like you do for omg.
> 
>     /gustav
> 
>     -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>     Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P?
>     vegne af Susan Harkins Sendt: 10. oktober 2016 15:48 Til:
>     'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>     <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Emne: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
> 
>     How do you pronounce .iso? Do you use the letters or a word - I
>     know I say image for an .img file, not i-m-g. 
> 
>      Susan H. 
> 
>     _______________________________________________
>     dba-Tech mailing list
>     dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>     http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>     Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bheid at sc.rr.com  Mon Oct 10 20:11:37 2016
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 21:11:37 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <57FC1DFC.24221.6EDBCA76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>
	<57FC1DFC.24221.6EDBCA76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000f01d2235c$6adf05d0$409d1170$@sc.rr.com>

Same

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:02 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] pronounciation

I'l go along with that.

On 10 Oct 2016 at 9:27, Jeff Barrows wrote:

> In my experience, it has always been said as a word, pronounced as
> eye-so.
> 
> 
> On 10/10/16, 9:22 AM, "dba-Tech on behalf of Gustav Brock"
> <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of gustav at cactus.dk>
> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Susan
> 
>     Iso can be regarded as a small word like bat and exe and doc. Here
>     we pronounce the I as in International.
> 
>     It'a bit more difficult with xls and indeed xlsx, while img
>     luckily don't have to be spelled out like you do for omg.
> 
>     /gustav
> 
>     -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>     Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P?
>     vegne af Susan Harkins Sendt: 10. oktober 2016 15:48 Til:
>     'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>     <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Emne: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
> 
>     How do you pronounce .iso? Do you use the letters or a word - I
>     know I say image for an .img file, not i-m-g. 
> 
>      Susan H. 
> 
>     _______________________________________________
>     dba-Tech mailing list
>     dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>     http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>     Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Oct 10 23:17:17 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 23:17:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <064301d22376$5ad0eb80$1072c280$@winhaven.net>

same

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] pronounciation

In my experience, it has always been said as a word, pronounced as eye-so.


On 10/10/16, 9:22 AM, "dba-Tech on behalf of Gustav Brock" <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

    Hi Susan
    
    Iso can be regarded as a small word like bat and exe and doc. Here we pronounce the I as in International.
    
    It'a bit more difficult with xls and indeed xlsx, while img luckily don't have to be spelled out like you do for omg.
    
    /gustav
    
    -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
    Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
    Sendt: 10. oktober 2016 15:48
    Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
    Emne: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
    
    How do you pronounce .iso? Do you use the letters or a word - I know I say image for an .img file, not i-m-g. 
    
     Susan H. 
    
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    dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 06:04:52 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 07:04:52 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <064301d22376$5ad0eb80$1072c280$@winhaven.net>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>	<1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>
	<064301d22376$5ad0eb80$1072c280$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <005501d223af$4b640220$e22c0660$@gmail.com>

Thanks everyone. I was  working on a QA for a book, and the author kept writing "a .iso file" instead of "an .iso file" and the copyeditor let it slide.  

You were helpful! 

Thanks!
Susan H. 


same



In my experience, it has always been said as a word, pronounced as eye-so.


On 10/10/16, 9:22 AM, "dba-Tech on behalf of Gustav Brock" <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

    Hi Susan
    
    Iso can be regarded as a small word like bat and exe and doc. Here we pronounce the I as in International.
    
    It'a bit more difficult with xls and indeed xlsx, while img luckily don't have to be spelled out like you do for omg.
    
    /gustav
    
    -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
    Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Susan Harkins
    Sendt: 10. oktober 2016 15:48
    Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
    Emne: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
    
    How do you pronounce .iso? Do you use the letters or a word - I know I say image for an .img file, not i-m-g. 
    
     Susan H. 
    
    _______________________________________________
    dba-Tech mailing list
    dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
    http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
    Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
    



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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 15:28:24 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 16:28:24 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <000f01d2235c$6adf05d0$409d1170$@sc.rr.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>
	<57FC1DFC.24221.6EDBCA76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<000f01d2235c$6adf05d0$409d1170$@sc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1htzYMnjJu0hcPSN8kQHwUYLxxW649FFVD1h=HDYmgPRg@mail.gmail.com>

We have a colloquiy, it would appear. To sketch it out a little further:

ISO is pronounced exactly as it looks: I-S-O.
bat is pronounced exactly as it looks: BAT.
DLL is pronounced in the same way as ISO.
SQL is a tad trickier, since most of the commercial world takes after the
original IBM pronunciation, derived from Sequel, or Structured Query
Language. But Monty (of MySQL fame) decided to change the pronunciation to
My-SQL, and this pronunciation has acquired significant credence in the
world, especially the internet world.
In contrast to Monty's pronunciation, Michael Stonebraker et. al. have come
up with PostGres and subsequently PostGreSQL; these distinctions reflect
the evolution of the SQL language and I admire them. Stonebraker et. al.
have advanced the SQL language significantly, in my opinion. Stonebraker
and his team have gone way beyond that standard implementation into VoltDB,
an in-memory database that can scale across numerous servers with tons of
RAM and treat the whole surface as one single block of RAM.
Now we come to the NoSQL community, a whole new take on what used to be
called Codd's Relational Model.

I'll leave it at that, for this send.

Arthur

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Bobby Heid <bheid at sc.rr.com> wrote:

> Same
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:02 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
>
> I'l go along with that.
>
> On 10 Oct 2016 at 9:27, Jeff Barrows wrote:
>
> > In my experience, it has always been said as a word, pronounced as
> > eye-so.
> >
> >
> > On 10/10/16, 9:22 AM, "dba-Tech on behalf of Gustav Brock"
> > <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of gustav at cactus.dk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Susan
> >
> >     Iso can be regarded as a small word like bat and exe and doc. Here
> >     we pronounce the I as in International.
> >
> >     It'a bit more difficult with xls and indeed xlsx, while img
> >     luckily don't have to be spelled out like you do for omg.
> >
> >     /gustav
> >
> >     -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> >     Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P?
> >     vegne af Susan Harkins Sendt: 10. oktober 2016 15:48 Til:
> >     'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> >     <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Emne: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
> >
> >     How do you pronounce .iso? Do you use the letters or a word - I
> >     know I say image for an .img file, not i-m-g.
> >
> >      Susan H.
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     dba-Tech mailing list
> >     dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >     http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >     Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
>
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>



-- 
Arthur

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 17:10:01 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:10:01 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1htzYMnjJu0hcPSN8kQHwUYLxxW649FFVD1h=HDYmgPRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>	<1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>	<57FC1DFC.24221.6EDBCA76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<000f01d2235c$6adf05d0$409d1170$@sc.rr.com>
	<CAEPJO1htzYMnjJu0hcPSN8kQHwUYLxxW649FFVD1h=HDYmgPRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a501d2240c$36c8ea30$a45abe90$@gmail.com>

I occasionally slip up and say Sequel and the young heads all go ... "huh??" 

Susan H. 

SQL is a tad trickier, since most of the commercial world takes after the original IBM pronunciation, derived from Sequel, or Structured Query Language. But Monty (of MySQL fame) decided to change the pronunciation to My-SQL, and this pronunciation has acquired significant credence in the world, especially the internet world.




From jon at tydda.plus.com  Tue Oct 11 17:24:49 2016
From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 23:24:49 +0100
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <00a501d2240c$36c8ea30$a45abe90$@gmail.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1EF277D8-216D-4074-A339-22FD25929EDE@gmail.com>
	<57FC1DFC.24221.6EDBCA76@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<000f01d2235c$6adf05d0$409d1170$@sc.rr.com>
	<CAEPJO1htzYMnjJu0hcPSN8kQHwUYLxxW649FFVD1h=HDYmgPRg@mail.gmail.com>
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Just because someone got it wrong once doesn't mean everyone else has to change pronunciation. It'll always be sequel to me :)

Or squirrel, depending on how gullible I think the person I'm talking to is...


Jon

Sent from one's iPhone

> On 11 Oct 2016, at 23:10, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I occasionally slip up and say Sequel and the young heads all go ... "huh??" 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> SQL is a tad trickier, since most of the commercial world takes after the original IBM pronunciation, derived from Sequel, or Structured Query Language. But Monty (of MySQL fame) decided to change the pronunciation to My-SQL, and this pronunciation has acquired significant credence in the world, especially the internet world.
> 
> 
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Oct 11 18:07:13 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:07:13 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <97BEDE93-45E8-4FD8-B974-31D0470234D7@tydda.plus.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<00a501d2240c$36c8ea30$a45abe90$@gmail.com>,
	<97BEDE93-45E8-4FD8-B974-31D0470234D7@tydda.plus.com>
Message-ID: <57FD70A1.20847.74069F5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

It's always S-Q-L for me.

SEQUEL was initially a lnaguage developed by Chamberlain and Boyce. 
Then IBM developed a query language for System R.

Subsequently SQL was developed as a standard.  When you pronounce it "sequel", which 
one are you talking about?  :)

Besides which,  it avoids having to say:
MySequel, Postresequel, sequelite etc.

Of course, many will disagree with me, and I don't care if they pronounce it differently to me.

I'm sure that I pronounce tomato differently to most people here :)

-- 
Stuart


On 11 Oct 2016 at 23:24, Jon Tydda wrote:

> Just because someone got it wrong once doesn't mean everyone else has
> to change pronunciation. It'll always be sequel to me :)
> 
> Or squirrel, depending on how gullible I think the person I'm talking
> to is...
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> Sent from one's iPhone
> 
> > On 11 Oct 2016, at 23:10, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I occasionally slip up and say Sequel and the young heads all go ...
> > "huh??" 
> > 
> > Susan H. 
> > 
> > SQL is a tad trickier, since most of the commercial world takes
> > after the original IBM pronunciation, derived from Sequel, or
> > Structured Query Language. But Monty (of MySQL fame) decided to
> > change the pronunciation to My-SQL, and this pronunciation has
> > acquired significant credence in the world, especially the internet
> > world.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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> 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 18:30:11 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:30:11 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <57FD70A1.20847.74069F5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<00a501d2240c$36c8ea30$a45abe90$@gmail.com>,
	<97BEDE93-45E8-4FD8-B974-31D0470234D7@tydda.plus.com>
	<57FD70A1.20847.74069F5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000e01d22417$6addbc50$409934f0$@gmail.com>

Microsoft original pronounced SQL Server, Sequel Server. 

Susan H. 


It's always S-Q-L for me.

SEQUEL was initially a lnaguage developed by Chamberlain and Boyce. 
Then IBM developed a query language for System R.

Subsequently SQL was developed as a standard.  When you pronounce it
"sequel", which one are you talking about?  :)

Besides which,  it avoids having to say:
MySequel, Postresequel, sequelite etc.

Of course, many will disagree with me, and I don't care if they pronounce it
differently to me.

I'm sure that I pronounce tomato differently to most people here :)

--
Stuart


On 11 Oct 2016 at 23:24, Jon Tydda wrote:

> Just because someone got it wrong once doesn't mean everyone else has
> to change pronunciation. It'll always be sequel to me :)
> 
> Or squirrel, depending on how gullible I think the person I'm talking
> to is...
> 
> 
> Jon
> 
> Sent from one's iPhone
> 
> > On 11 Oct 2016, at 23:10, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I occasionally slip up and say Sequel and the young heads all go ...
> > "huh??" 
> > 
> > Susan H. 
> > 
> > SQL is a tad trickier, since most of the commercial world takes
> > after the original IBM pronunciation, derived from Sequel, or
> > Structured Query Language. But Monty (of MySQL fame) decided to
> > change the pronunciation to My-SQL, and this pronunciation has
> > acquired significant credence in the world, especially the internet
> > world.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Oct 11 19:14:47 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:14:47 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <000e01d22417$6addbc50$409934f0$@gmail.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<57FD70A1.20847.74069F5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<000e01d22417$6addbc50$409934f0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57FD8077.4403.74447956@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Microsoft have done a lot things wrong over the years :)

The official standard, ISO /IEC  9075-1, consistently uses "an, not "a" as the indefinite article 
before "SQL".   If it were pronounces "sequel", the indefinte article used would have been "a" 

e.g.

"1.  This part of ISO/IEC 9075 describes the conceptual framework used in other parts of 
ISO/IEC 9075 to specify the grammar of SQL and the result of processing statements in that 
language by an SQL-implementation."

Which goes right back to "a .iso image" or "an .iso image"

-- 
Stuart


On 11 Oct 2016 at 19:30, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Microsoft original pronounced SQL Server, Sequel Server. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> 
> It's always S-Q-L for me.
> 
> SEQUEL was initially a lnaguage developed by Chamberlain and Boyce.
> Then IBM developed a query language for System R.
> 
> Subsequently SQL was developed as a standard.  When you pronounce it
> "sequel", which one are you talking about?  :)
> 
> Besides which,  it avoids having to say:
> MySequel, Postresequel, sequelite etc.
> 
> Of course, many will disagree with me, and I don't care if they
> pronounce it differently to me.
> 
> I'm sure that I pronounce tomato differently to most people here :)
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> 
> On 11 Oct 2016 at 23:24, Jon Tydda wrote:
> 
> > Just because someone got it wrong once doesn't mean everyone else
> > has to change pronunciation. It'll always be sequel to me :)
> > 
> > Or squirrel, depending on how gullible I think the person I'm
> > talking to is...
> > 
> > 
> > Jon
> > 
> > Sent from one's iPhone
> > 
> > > On 11 Oct 2016, at 23:10, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > I occasionally slip up and say Sequel and the young heads all go
> > > ... "huh??" 
> > > 
> > > Susan H. 
> > > 
> > > SQL is a tad trickier, since most of the commercial world takes
> > > after the original IBM pronunciation, derived from Sequel, or
> > > Structured Query Language. But Monty (of MySQL fame) decided to
> > > change the pronunciation to My-SQL, and this pronunciation has
> > > acquired significant credence in the world, especially the
> > > internet world.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 12 12:55:44 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 11:55:44 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <00a501d2240c$36c8ea30$a45abe90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <931561661.106014527.1476294944671.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

My thoughts on it is that sequel describes the language and SQL describes the applications that apply sequel.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] pronounciation

I occasionally slip up and say Sequel and the young heads all go ... "huh??" 

Susan H. 

SQL is a tad trickier, since most of the commercial world takes after the original IBM pronunciation, derived from Sequel, or Structured Query Language. But Monty (of MySQL fame) decided to change the pronunciation to My-SQL, and this pronunciation has acquired significant credence in the world, especially the internet world.



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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Oct 12 15:01:14 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 16:01:14 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] pronounciation
In-Reply-To: <57FD8077.4403.74447956@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219861E27C52CC7A759833F7CADB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<57FD70A1.20847.74069F5C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<000e01d22417$6addbc50$409934f0$@gmail.com>
	<57FD8077.4403.74447956@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
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Stuart,

You are an extremely prerceptive man, and also witty. Every missive you
issue is a joy to read.

Arthur.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> Microsoft have done a lot things wrong over the years :)
>
> The official standard, ISO /IEC  9075-1, consistently uses "an, not "a" as
> the indefinite article
> before "SQL".   If it were pronounces "sequel", the indefinte article used
> would have been "a"
>
> e.g.
>
> "1.  This part of ISO/IEC 9075 describes the conceptual framework used in
> other parts of
> ISO/IEC 9075 to specify the grammar of SQL and the result of processing
> statements in that
> language by an SQL-implementation."
>
> Which goes right back to "a .iso image" or "an .iso image"
>
> --
> Stuart
>
>
> On 11 Oct 2016 at 19:30, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > Microsoft original pronounced SQL Server, Sequel Server.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> >
> > It's always S-Q-L for me.
> >
> > SEQUEL was initially a lnaguage developed by Chamberlain and Boyce.
> > Then IBM developed a query language for System R.
> >
> > Subsequently SQL was developed as a standard.  When you pronounce it
> > "sequel", which one are you talking about?  :)
> >
> > Besides which,  it avoids having to say:
> > MySequel, Postresequel, sequelite etc.
> >
> > Of course, many will disagree with me, and I don't care if they
> > pronounce it differently to me.
> >
> > I'm sure that I pronounce tomato differently to most people here :)
> >
> > --
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> > On 11 Oct 2016 at 23:24, Jon Tydda wrote:
> >
> > > Just because someone got it wrong once doesn't mean everyone else
> > > has to change pronunciation. It'll always be sequel to me :)
> > >
> > > Or squirrel, depending on how gullible I think the person I'm
> > > talking to is...
> > >
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > Sent from one's iPhone
> > >
> > > > On 11 Oct 2016, at 23:10, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I occasionally slip up and say Sequel and the young heads all go
> > > > ... "huh??"
> > > >
> > > > Susan H.
> > > >
> > > > SQL is a tad trickier, since most of the commercial world takes
> > > > after the original IBM pronunciation, derived from Sequel, or
> > > > Structured Query Language. But Monty (of MySQL fame) decided to
> > > > change the pronunciation to My-SQL, and this pronunciation has
> > > > acquired significant credence in the world, especially the
> > > > internet world.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



-- 
Arthur

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 10:17:43 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 11:17:43 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1g7jHo+RqHZ6acUiuwMf-vRgxLeMftDMd_2BOi_3-gS_A@mail.gmail.com>

As Homer Simpson once said, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid
people."

I confess I know next to nothing about either discipline mentioned in the
subject, but I've been wondering about the design of numerous sites
(ArsTechnica, NYRB, NYTimes, there's a long list) whose basic mode of
presentation is analogous to the design of a newspaper: top-of-the-fold
headline(s), a paragraph beneath each, and a link that takes you to the
rest of the story.

It's obvious they use a template of some sort. In some cases, the
story-boxes are always the same size, and in other cases the size varies.
Either way, I'm guessing there are tools to do this (WordPress seems
popular), but what's the actual process? Do you start off with an entire
article, snip the first paragraph and paste it into the Front Page? But
then how do you add the link at the bottom of the story lead? Or maybe it's
the other way around?

Given the rapidity of change in such sites, I have to imagine that various
tools are available with which to control the flow of a story from lead to
body. I can't believe that people have to do this by hand, but also can't
imagine how these tools might work.

(Not that it's relevant to my immediate question, other than to illustrate
my ignorance in many branches of computing, but I haven't the faintest clue
how the software behind LucasFilm etc. works: more specifically, how do
they make the images of Sigourney Weaver in Avatar?  I can't even imagine
how to use such software, let alone how to write it.)

-- 
Arthur

From df.waters at outlook.com  Thu Oct 13 10:24:53 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:24:53 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g7jHo+RqHZ6acUiuwMf-vRgxLeMftDMd_2BOi_3-gS_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1g7jHo+RqHZ6acUiuwMf-vRgxLeMftDMd_2BOi_3-gS_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BN3PR19MB0497FDA52F75DCD3D628AB3DF6DC0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur,

When I read your announcement I really felt like I'd been hit with a striking loss.  

But here you are - right back in the game! :-)

You are my role model ...

Don't stop for anything!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development

As Homer Simpson once said, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid people."

I confess I know next to nothing about either discipline mentioned in the subject, but I've been wondering about the design of numerous sites (ArsTechnica, NYRB, NYTimes, there's a long list) whose basic mode of presentation is analogous to the design of a newspaper: top-of-the-fold headline(s), a paragraph beneath each, and a link that takes you to the rest of the story.

It's obvious they use a template of some sort. In some cases, the story-boxes are always the same size, and in other cases the size varies.
Either way, I'm guessing there are tools to do this (WordPress seems popular), but what's the actual process? Do you start off with an entire article, snip the first paragraph and paste it into the Front Page? But then how do you add the link at the bottom of the story lead? Or maybe it's the other way around?

Given the rapidity of change in such sites, I have to imagine that various tools are available with which to control the flow of a story from lead to body. I can't believe that people have to do this by hand, but also can't imagine how these tools might work.

(Not that it's relevant to my immediate question, other than to illustrate my ignorance in many branches of computing, but I haven't the faintest clue how the software behind LucasFilm etc. works: more specifically, how do they make the images of Sigourney Weaver in Avatar?  I can't even imagine how to use such software, let alone how to write it.)

--
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 11:50:44 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:50:44 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g7jHo+RqHZ6acUiuwMf-vRgxLeMftDMd_2BOi_3-gS_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1g7jHo+RqHZ6acUiuwMf-vRgxLeMftDMd_2BOi_3-gS_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWECM0jXyHrSczz8sx67_cW8iZWp3vnCCw16urvFhK+pmw@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur,

In most cases, the story author doesn't need to change the "home page"
they just basically fill in an online form with their story. They can
either put a "break" in to indicate home much is shown on the home
page before the "more" link shows up. The home page then pulls the x
most recent stories and show them to the user.


Here's an image showing a Wordpress post form.
http://magazine3.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Add-New-post-visibility-.png

It really is pretty simple and straight forward.

B

On 13 October 2016 at 11:17, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> As Homer Simpson once said, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid
> people."
>
> I confess I know next to nothing about either discipline mentioned in the
> subject, but I've been wondering about the design of numerous sites
> (ArsTechnica, NYRB, NYTimes, there's a long list) whose basic mode of
> presentation is analogous to the design of a newspaper: top-of-the-fold
> headline(s), a paragraph beneath each, and a link that takes you to the
> rest of the story.
>
> It's obvious they use a template of some sort. In some cases, the
> story-boxes are always the same size, and in other cases the size varies.
> Either way, I'm guessing there are tools to do this (WordPress seems
> popular), but what's the actual process? Do you start off with an entire
> article, snip the first paragraph and paste it into the Front Page? But
> then how do you add the link at the bottom of the story lead? Or maybe it's
> the other way around?
>
> Given the rapidity of change in such sites, I have to imagine that various
> tools are available with which to control the flow of a story from lead to
> body. I can't believe that people have to do this by hand, but also can't
> imagine how these tools might work.
>
> (Not that it's relevant to my immediate question, other than to illustrate
> my ignorance in many branches of computing, but I haven't the faintest clue
> how the software behind LucasFilm etc. works: more specifically, how do
> they make the images of Sigourney Weaver in Avatar?  I can't even imagine
> how to use such software, let alone how to write it.)
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 13 16:29:27 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:29:27 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1g7jHo+RqHZ6acUiuwMf-vRgxLeMftDMd_2BOi_3-gS_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1486825291.107034044.1476394167173.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

If my wife (the epitome of a non-technical person), with a little help, can put together a Wordpress website, that allowed her to gather all the material, from all over the world, for her first book then anyone can use WP. (http://mirandalawrence.com/indexbook.html)

As for animation two Open Source animation products are available for personal use. RenderMan, from Pixar and Blender, designed by a non-profit company out of Europe. Knowing how to use the products is just the start...as reaching a professional level will take years. Some of the best artists in the world work for the entertainment business. My daughter has been working on a relatively small series, for Pixar called Dinotrux (kids shows) for the last couple of years and now she is personally responsible for two or three of the characters...very hard work.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:17:43 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development

As Homer Simpson once said, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid
people."

I confess I know next to nothing about either discipline mentioned in the
subject, but I've been wondering about the design of numerous sites
(ArsTechnica, NYRB, NYTimes, there's a long list) whose basic mode of
presentation is analogous to the design of a newspaper: top-of-the-fold
headline(s), a paragraph beneath each, and a link that takes you to the
rest of the story.

It's obvious they use a template of some sort. In some cases, the
story-boxes are always the same size, and in other cases the size varies.
Either way, I'm guessing there are tools to do this (WordPress seems
popular), but what's the actual process? Do you start off with an entire
article, snip the first paragraph and paste it into the Front Page? But
then how do you add the link at the bottom of the story lead? Or maybe it's
the other way around?

Given the rapidity of change in such sites, I have to imagine that various
tools are available with which to control the flow of a story from lead to
body. I can't believe that people have to do this by hand, but also can't
imagine how these tools might work.

(Not that it's relevant to my immediate question, other than to illustrate
my ignorance in many branches of computing, but I haven't the faintest clue
how the software behind LucasFilm etc. works: more specifically, how do
they make the images of Sigourney Weaver in Avatar?  I can't even imagine
how to use such software, let alone how to write it.)

-- 
Arthur
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Oct 13 17:24:27 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:24:27 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development
In-Reply-To: <1486825291.107034044.1476394167173.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1g7jHo+RqHZ6acUiuwMf-vRgxLeMftDMd_2BOi_3-gS_A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1486825291.107034044.1476394167173.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
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Classy looking site.  Proving it takes more than tech talent to make a nice
site.  In fact, that's probably less important than to have an eye for
design.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 2:29 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development

If my wife (the epitome of a non-technical person), with a little help, can
put together a Wordpress website, that allowed her to gather all the
material, from all over the world, for her first book then anyone can use
WP. (http://mirandalawrence.com/indexbook.html)

As for animation two Open Source animation products are available for
personal use. RenderMan, from Pixar and Blender, designed by a non-profit
company out of Europe. Knowing how to use the products is just the
start...as reaching a professional level will take years. Some of the best
artists in the world work for the entertainment business. My daughter has
been working on a relatively small series, for Pixar called Dinotrux (kids
shows) for the last couple of years and now she is personally responsible
for two or three of the characters...very hard work.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:17:43 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development

As Homer Simpson once said, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid
people."

I confess I know next to nothing about either discipline mentioned in the
subject, but I've been wondering about the design of numerous sites
(ArsTechnica, NYRB, NYTimes, there's a long list) whose basic mode of
presentation is analogous to the design of a newspaper: top-of-the-fold
headline(s), a paragraph beneath each, and a link that takes you to the rest
of the story.

It's obvious they use a template of some sort. In some cases, the
story-boxes are always the same size, and in other cases the size varies.
Either way, I'm guessing there are tools to do this (WordPress seems
popular), but what's the actual process? Do you start off with an entire
article, snip the first paragraph and paste it into the Front Page? But then
how do you add the link at the bottom of the story lead? Or maybe it's the
other way around?

Given the rapidity of change in such sites, I have to imagine that various
tools are available with which to control the flow of a story from lead to
body. I can't believe that people have to do this by hand, but also can't
imagine how these tools might work.

(Not that it's relevant to my immediate question, other than to illustrate
my ignorance in many branches of computing, but I haven't the faintest clue
how the software behind LucasFilm etc. works: more specifically, how do they
make the images of Sigourney Weaver in Avatar?  I can't even imagine how to
use such software, let alone how to write it.)

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 13 18:04:56 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:04:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1521286920.107110181.1476399896047.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

According to the following article Firefox can eventually destroy an SSD drive by continuously writing to the disk. The article goes on to provide a method and settings that should alleviate most of this problem:

https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to-fix-it/

This discussion only covers FF...it is undoubted that other browsers have similar features and therefore similar problems.

Jim 

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Oct 14 00:28:15 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 22:28:15 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <1521286920.107110181.1476399896047.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1521286920.107110181.1476399896047.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <012a01d225db$c3dc35a0$4b94a0e0$@bchacc.com>

I entered -browser.sessionstore.interval/ into my FF browser as recommended
but I get 'server not found'.  Have you tried this?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?

According to the following article Firefox can eventually destroy an SSD
drive by continuously writing to the disk. The article goes on to provide a
method and settings that should alleviate most of this problem:

https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to-fix-i
t/

This discussion only covers FF...it is undoubted that other browsers have
similar features and therefore similar problems.

Jim 
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 14 04:38:27 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 05:38:27 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <012a01d225db$c3dc35a0$4b94a0e0$@bchacc.com>
References: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1521286920.107110181.1476399896047.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<012a01d225db$c3dc35a0$4b94a0e0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWGqCTuBtTwmSP7pT+7Ry2Z5XVNkJziCdX7vTWJmJtpVqg@mail.gmail.com>

You need to type about:config in the browser bar, then search for the
browser.sessionstore.interval

B

On 14 October 2016 at 01:28, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> I entered -browser.sessionstore.interval/ into my FF browser as recommended
> but I get 'server not found'.  Have you tried this?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
>
> According to the following article Firefox can eventually destroy an SSD
> drive by continuously writing to the disk. The article goes on to provide a
> method and settings that should alleviate most of this problem:
>
> https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to-fix-i
> t/
>
> This discussion only covers FF...it is undoubted that other browsers have
> similar features and therefore similar problems.
>
> Jim
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Oct 14 06:53:02 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 04:53:02 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWGqCTuBtTwmSP7pT+7Ry2Z5XVNkJziCdX7vTWJmJtpVqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>	<1521286920.107110181.1476399896047.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>	<012a01d225db$c3dc35a0$4b94a0e0$@bchacc.com>
	<CAAZtbWGqCTuBtTwmSP7pT+7Ry2Z5XVNkJziCdX7vTWJmJtpVqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014801d22611$847252b0$8d56f810$@bchacc.com>

Thanks Bryan.  Did they leave that step out or did I just miss it?  I've
switched to using Edge a lot.  Tried it, seemed to work well. My FF was
getting a little wonky. Don't like Chrome.  Looks inefficient to me. Has too
many processes open at once.  

Do you know if there's a similar setting for Edge?

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?

You need to type about:config in the browser bar, then search for the
browser.sessionstore.interval

B

On 14 October 2016 at 01:28, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> I entered -browser.sessionstore.interval/ into my FF browser as 
> recommended but I get 'server not found'.  Have you tried this?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
>
> According to the following article Firefox can eventually destroy an 
> SSD drive by continuously writing to the disk. The article goes on to 
> provide a method and settings that should alleviate most of this problem:
>
> https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to
> -fix-i
> t/
>
> This discussion only covers FF...it is undoubted that other browsers 
> have similar features and therefore similar problems.
>
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
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body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 14 07:14:26 2016
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:14:26 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWH9i+eSjLRTWv86pysoG_Tx2GqR7-Cjv34pq1PzAcemmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1521286920.107110181.1476399896047.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<012a01d225db$c3dc35a0$4b94a0e0$@bchacc.com>
	<CAAZtbWGqCTuBtTwmSP7pT+7Ry2Z5XVNkJziCdX7vTWJmJtpVqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<014801d22611$847252b0$8d56f810$@bchacc.com>
	<CAAZtbWFpczc83P9tMhPxWrJLiz59Z8VHdEE3B=UoXYJuhmWotA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWH9i+eSjLRTWv86pysoG_Tx2GqR7-Cjv34pq1PzAcemmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWEVri9ndzAwx5zxFLmGpFU2FSGY9XhOQFSCuSMCHgcRZw@mail.gmail.com>

I didn't read the full article so I can't say if they left it out. However,
that setting looked like one of the advanced hidden settings that is mere
mortals after kept away from, so I just googled how to get at those
settings :)

B

On Oct 14, 2016 7:53 AM, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

Thanks Bryan.  Did they leave that step out or did I just miss it?  I've
switched to using Edge a lot.  Tried it, seemed to work well. My FF was
getting a little wonky. Don't like Chrome.  Looks inefficient to me. Has too
many processes open at once.

Do you know if there's a similar setting for Edge?

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?

You need to type about:config in the browser bar, then search for the
browser.sessionstore.interval

B

On 14 October 2016 at 01:28, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> I entered -browser.sessionstore.interval/ into my FF browser as
> recommended but I get 'server not found'.  Have you tried this?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
>
> According to the following article Firefox can eventually destroy an
> SSD drive by continuously writing to the disk. The article goes on to
> provide a method and settings that should alleviate most of this problem:
>
> https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to
> -fix-i
> t/
>
> This discussion only covers FF...it is undoubted that other browsers
> have similar features and therefore similar problems.
>
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 14 15:15:55 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:15:55 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development
In-Reply-To: <00d901d225a0$8f6bd6d0$ae438470$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <2092389661.107760413.1476476155960.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

It should be noted that the website linked is not a Wordpress site. The original site was taken down after all the prose and pictures had been gathered and used because there was a potential of it getting hacked. (some bright young lad did manage to hack the built-in email service but fortunately, it was caught and fixed.)

It should also be noted that the WP, along with all the other CRM pre-structured websites, at least five years ago, had a flaw that made them easily hackable via the SQL Injection hack. Since then the code on most of these packages, Drupal, Joomla, DNN, etc, etc has been updated so such an easy hack is not longer possible. (Instead of ten minutes to hack in, it now takes twenty minutes. ;-) ...if you want to fix this, fix it at the DB end, use only SPs, where possible and vet every external code request. ) 

Aside: Most reputable hosting sites have each individual website enclosed in a KVM, Xen and other hypervisors type products, on the servers so none of the other clients can get impacted. Most people have used VMWare and Virtualbox but these applications are too fat to be economically run on a server with more than ten people. As for the history of these type products...the first implementation was in the 70's and used on VAXs and IBM mainframes, which became UNIX and then Linux and finally around ten years ago Microsoft took a version of Open Suse Linux and made a Hyper-V server specifically designed for Windows Applications so I think everyone now has those capabilities. Note: Containers (around 2000) are just the latest variations to KVM and there will be a Microsoft version as soon as Satya Nadella gets his way (with the help of Canonical and Redhat).

Sorry for rambling but I had just finished doing some in-depth reading and casual coding with these products. I plan to be fully up to speed in about ten years. ;-)

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 3:24:27 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development

Classy looking site.  Proving it takes more than tech talent to make a nice
site.  In fact, that's probably less important than to have an eye for
design.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 2:29 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development

If my wife (the epitome of a non-technical person), with a little help, can
put together a Wordpress website, that allowed her to gather all the
material, from all over the world, for her first book then anyone can use
WP. (http://mirandalawrence.com/indexbook.html)

As for animation two Open Source animation products are available for
personal use. RenderMan, from Pixar and Blender, designed by a non-profit
company out of Europe. Knowing how to use the products is just the
start...as reaching a professional level will take years. Some of the best
artists in the world work for the entertainment business. My daughter has
been working on a relatively small series, for Pixar called Dinotrux (kids
shows) for the last couple of years and now she is personally responsible
for two or three of the characters...very hard work.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:17:43 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development

As Homer Simpson once said, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid
people."

I confess I know next to nothing about either discipline mentioned in the
subject, but I've been wondering about the design of numerous sites
(ArsTechnica, NYRB, NYTimes, there's a long list) whose basic mode of
presentation is analogous to the design of a newspaper: top-of-the-fold
headline(s), a paragraph beneath each, and a link that takes you to the rest
of the story.

It's obvious they use a template of some sort. In some cases, the
story-boxes are always the same size, and in other cases the size varies.
Either way, I'm guessing there are tools to do this (WordPress seems
popular), but what's the actual process? Do you start off with an entire
article, snip the first paragraph and paste it into the Front Page? But then
how do you add the link at the bottom of the story lead? Or maybe it's the
other way around?

Given the rapidity of change in such sites, I have to imagine that various
tools are available with which to control the flow of a story from lead to
body. I can't believe that people have to do this by hand, but also can't
imagine how these tools might work.

(Not that it's relevant to my immediate question, other than to illustrate
my ignorance in many branches of computing, but I haven't the faintest clue
how the software behind LucasFilm etc. works: more specifically, how do they
make the images of Sigourney Weaver in Avatar?  I can't even imagine how to
use such software, let alone how to write it.)

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 14 15:21:49 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:21:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <012a01d225db$c3dc35a0$4b94a0e0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <852204385.107764351.1476476509060.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

I have not. I plan to do it later in the day but I have be cognizant that computers are time machines which can move anyone into the future at incredible speeds. My day is very busy so it is planned for the last thing this evening.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:28:15 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?

I entered -browser.sessionstore.interval/ into my FF browser as recommended
but I get 'server not found'.  Have you tried this?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?

According to the following article Firefox can eventually destroy an SSD
drive by continuously writing to the disk. The article goes on to provide a
method and settings that should alleviate most of this problem:

https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to-fix-i
t/

This discussion only covers FF...it is undoubted that other browsers have
similar features and therefore similar problems.

Jim 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 14 15:23:11 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:23:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWGqCTuBtTwmSP7pT+7Ry2Z5XVNkJziCdX7vTWJmJtpVqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1654053126.107765538.1476476591089.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

Ahh, there you are. :-)

Jim

You need to type about:config in the browser bar, then search for the
browser.sessionstore.interval

B

On 14 October 2016 at 01:28, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> I entered -browser.sessionstore.interval/ into my FF browser as recommended
> but I get 'server not found'.  Have you tried this?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
>
> According to the following article Firefox can eventually destroy an SSD
> drive by continuously writing to the disk. The article goes on to provide a
> method and settings that should alleviate most of this problem:
>
> https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to-fix-i
> t/
>
> This discussion only covers FF...it is undoubted that other browsers have
> similar features and therefore similar problems.
>
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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>
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 14 15:29:26 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:29:26 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWEVri9ndzAwx5zxFLmGpFU2FSGY9XhOQFSCuSMCHgcRZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <674460884.107771422.1476476966792.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

You cheated. It like reading the manual. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 5:14:26 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?

I didn't read the full article so I can't say if they left it out. However,
that setting looked like one of the advanced hidden settings that is mere
mortals after kept away from, so I just googled how to get at those
settings :)

B

On Oct 14, 2016 7:53 AM, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

Thanks Bryan.  Did they leave that step out or did I just miss it?  I've
switched to using Edge a lot.  Tried it, seemed to work well. My FF was
getting a little wonky. Don't like Chrome.  Looks inefficient to me. Has too
many processes open at once.

Do you know if there's a similar setting for Edge?

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?

You need to type about:config in the browser bar, then search for the
browser.sessionstore.interval

B

On 14 October 2016 at 01:28, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> I entered -browser.sessionstore.interval/ into my FF browser as
> recommended but I get 'server not found'.  Have you tried this?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
>
> According to the following article Firefox can eventually destroy an
> SSD drive by continuously writing to the disk. The article goes on to
> provide a method and settings that should alleviate most of this problem:
>
> https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to
> -fix-i
> t/
>
> This discussion only covers FF...it is undoubted that other browsers
> have similar features and therefore similar problems.
>
> Jim
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body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Oct 15 13:22:08 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:22:08 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Firefox destroys SSD drives?
In-Reply-To: <CAAZtbWEVri9ndzAwx5zxFLmGpFU2FSGY9XhOQFSCuSMCHgcRZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1521286920.107110181.1476399896047.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<012a01d225db$c3dc35a0$4b94a0e0$@bchacc.com>
	<CAAZtbWGqCTuBtTwmSP7pT+7Ry2Z5XVNkJziCdX7vTWJmJtpVqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<014801d22611$847252b0$8d56f810$@bchacc.com>
	<CAAZtbWFpczc83P9tMhPxWrJLiz59Z8VHdEE3B=UoXYJuhmWotA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWH9i+eSjLRTWv86pysoG_Tx2GqR7-Cjv34pq1PzAcemmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAZtbWEVri9ndzAwx5zxFLmGpFU2FSGY9XhOQFSCuSMCHgcRZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gmVQzLyqVovBEefsZDJEbZGaUXyWDECNs-jLVp=hoXVw@mail.gmail.com>

Rocky,

My current fave is Vivaldi, but like you I prefer Edge to Chrome and
FireFox et.al. Vivaldi is very fast, seems not to consume a bunch of RAM,
and auto-remembers my last-loaded pages. I like that a lot. It has another
feature that I like a lot, which I think other browsers also have now: the
ability to add folders to the toolbar, and even to nest folders. I love
that feature, because due to my intellectual promiscuity I typically visit
many sites per day, and nested folders on the toolbar works beautifully for
me.

Arthur
?

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sun Oct 16 08:47:49 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 09:47:49 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Question(s) about web-site design and development
In-Reply-To: <00d901d225a0$8f6bd6d0$ae438470$@bchacc.com>
References: <CAEPJO1g7jHo+RqHZ6acUiuwMf-vRgxLeMftDMd_2BOi_3-gS_A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1486825291.107034044.1476394167173.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<00d901d225a0$8f6bd6d0$ae438470$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gqoMEO550eu1kjF7yP7GKwN3A9VdiU8TtrU8iN3nV8yQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dan,

If I'm your role model you need glasses ?

Bryan,

Thanks for the tip. I'm experimenting on one of my home computers and sill
give this a shot. From your brief description, it sounds like just what I
need. (I'm trying to turn all my magazine articles and book chapters into a
web site that will randomly pull stories and page, so that every time a
visitor visits, she sees different material.)(

Rocky,

Wow, you have one impressive daughter there! What did you do right? Must
have been all those years slaving over a hot stand-up bass.

Arthur
?

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 17 00:31:23 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 23:31:23 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mapping
In-Reply-To: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <304469640.108797333.1476682283400.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

How to create a really cool Wi-Fi map of your neighborhood:

http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2016/10/12/wi-fi-wardriving-easy/

http://bit.ly/2ebiZVu

Jim


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Oct 17 17:25:33 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 08:25:33 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Mapping
In-Reply-To: <304469640.108797333.1476682283400.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<304469640.108797333.1476682283400.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <58054FDD.18107.16EF323E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

For a "how to", we need a little more than "Then, by simply connecting to software on his 
laptop"

What software? 

-- 
Stuart

On 16 Oct 2016 at 23:31, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> How to create a really cool Wi-Fi map of your neighborhood:
> 
> http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2016/10/12/wi-fi-wardriving-easy/
> 
> http://bit.ly/2ebiZVu
> 
> Jim
> 
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 07:21:37 2016
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 08:21:37 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Yammer
Message-ID: <006001d2293a$2cfd85a0$86f890e0$@gmail.com>

 

Are any of you supporting Yammer? Just curious if it's making an impact in
organizations using Office 365. 

 

Susan H. 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 18 07:28:30 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:28:30 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Yammer
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB21987667FFFEED2D2F45C85BCAD30@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

Not here. I believe you have to be a larger organization - so large that there will be colleagues you don't know - to gain a benefit from its use.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 18. oktober 2016 14:22
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] Yammer

 
Are any of you supporting Yammer? Just curious if it's making an impact in organizations using Office 365. 

 
Susan H. 


From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Oct 18 07:33:37 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:33:37 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Yammer
In-Reply-To: <006001d2293a$2cfd85a0$86f890e0$@gmail.com>
References: <006001d2293a$2cfd85a0$86f890e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA081BB15@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Just started so very early days but we have had a fair amount of interest mostly within closed business groups.

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 18 October 2016 13:22
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] Yammer

 

Are any of you supporting Yammer? Just curious if it's making an impact in organizations using Office 365. 

 

Susan H. 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Oct 18 17:58:21 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 16:58:21 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Software-Defined Networking (SDN)
In-Reply-To: <AM4PR0601MB2196CB321C34C56D4A295D44CAE50@AM4PR0601MB2196.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>

The latest technology surrounding networks is SDN. Software-Defined Networking (SDN) is an industry movement for building programmable networks that are flexible and responsive to organizations' and users' needs. OpenDaylight, the largest open source SDN controller, is helping lead this transition.

What this means is that networks can be built that extend across networks, Cloud(s), data stores, sites anywhere on the internet and through routers and accessing any resources will be abstracted from any users. Below is one of the main developers.

https://www.opendaylight.org/

Further overview of the product by Redhat:
http://verticalindustriesblog.redhat.com/successful-integration-of-opendaylight-boron-release-with-mitaka-release-of-openstack/
http://red.ht/2eqBzaw

Many of the who's who of the business world are supporting the software system:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/opendaylight-summit/sponsors/our-sponsors

This technology will soon be applied across the internet. 

Jim


 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Oct 25 21:09:31 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:09:31 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] When Microsoft compiled .Net for Linux...
In-Reply-To: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1960327178.20336893.1477447771830.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

When Miscrosoft compiled .Net on Linux, for Linux, was this their intension?:

http://piotrgankiewicz.com/2016/10/17/net-on-linux-bye-windows-10/
http://bit.ly/2eJKLsv

Regardless, It is good to know that everyone regardless of their OS can program and be a .Net developer.

Jim  

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 05:31:51 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 06:31:51 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>

They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know a
lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be purchased
for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of easily-compromised
phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better protected, but even these are
at serious risk.

I could be wrong, but I think that my land-line is safe. Even there, if I
don't recognize the incoming number, then I don't answer. I don't even
answer when someone is buzzing my apartment number -- not without a prior
phone call that he or she will be arriving momentarily.

There is also the cost of a cell phone. Given that I receive a couple of
calls a week. typically from bots trying to sell me subscriptions to
magazines I never read, or alternatively whose content I can obtain on the
net, I simply don't answer, and pretty soon they stroke me off their list
of potential victims.

These companies have cubicles filled with underpaid employees who push a
button and dial the next number in a sequence. If I had any say in the
matter, I would outlaw them all, and send the employers (not the employees)
to prison. This is not a "freedom of speech" issue: this is harassment,
plain and simple. I'm tired of it and I want it to end.

Fortunately, my contract with Bell.ca enables callerr-ID, and I have only a
small number of friends that know my number, so it's relatively easy to
delete the bad guys and girls.

-- 
Arthur

From eptept at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 06:18:31 2016
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:18:31 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEkqQpWSsvWN3BRCRSFAda=ExD7eYhj0_4RaCDickDnVo5+Mdg@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know a
> lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be purchased
> for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of easily-compromised
> phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better protected, but even these are
> at serious risk.
>
> I could be wrong, but I think that my land-line is safe. Even there, if I
> don't recognize the incoming number, then I don't answer. I don't even
> answer when someone is buzzing my apartment number -- not without a prior
> phone call that he or she will be arriving momentarily.
>
> There is also the cost of a cell phone. Given that I receive a couple of
> calls a week. typically from bots trying to sell me subscriptions to
> magazines I never read, or alternatively whose content I can obtain on the
> net, I simply don't answer, and pretty soon they stroke me off their list
> of potential victims.
>
> These companies have cubicles filled with underpaid employees who push a
> button and dial the next number in a sequence. If I had any say in the
> matter, I would outlaw them all, and send the employers (not the employees)
> to prison. This is not a "freedom of speech" issue: this is harassment,
> plain and simple. I'm tired of it and I want it to end.
>
> Fortunately, my contract with Bell.ca enables callerr-ID, and I have only a
> small number of friends that know my number, so it's relatively easy to
> delete the bad guys and girls.
>
> --
> Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 26 06:53:12 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:53:12 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Oct 26 08:01:59 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 06:01:59 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>

I hate my cell phone. Hacking doesn't worry me.  It's the intrusive nature
of the thing. And the compulsive way people regard them.  Many, even when
they're not using them, just have them in their hand.

Used to be when you sat down in a bar you laid a package of cigarettes in
the table.  Now people lay out their cell phone.

I hate it.  I don't use it.  But I work at home and have my land line all
the time.  When I'm out, I don't want to talk to people. I certainly don't
want to chat while I'm in the grocery store, or riding my bike.  And I
certainly can't do anything business related when I'm in a restaurant or
driving.

I use the GPS to get places but try not to if I've been there before.
Recent study showed that people who use GPS a lot have atrophy of the
hippocampus.  From disuse.  

But as a telephone it has got to be the world's WORST technology.  When I do
take or make a cell call I know that 50/50 it will be dropped within 3
minutes. Or one of our voices will break up requiring a repeat.  And the
sound quality is often poor. 

Of course the social rules around them are evolving and things will get
better.  But when we go see a play, why at halftime are 2/3rds of the
audience immediately on their cell phones? Why do they check them the second
the place stops at the gate?  

Here's part of the answer:  Look at the Wiki entry for FOMO.  

R



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 3:32 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know a lot
about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be purchased for an
insignificant sum and then employed on an army of easily-compromised phones,
and also tablets. Desktops are better protected, but even these are at
serious risk.

I could be wrong, but I think that my land-line is safe. Even there, if I
don't recognize the incoming number, then I don't answer. I don't even
answer when someone is buzzing my apartment number -- not without a prior
phone call that he or she will be arriving momentarily.

There is also the cost of a cell phone. Given that I receive a couple of
calls a week. typically from bots trying to sell me subscriptions to
magazines I never read, or alternatively whose content I can obtain on the
net, I simply don't answer, and pretty soon they stroke me off their list of
potential victims.

These companies have cubicles filled with underpaid employees who push a
button and dial the next number in a sequence. If I had any say in the
matter, I would outlaw them all, and send the employers (not the employees)
to prison. This is not a "freedom of speech" issue: this is harassment,
plain and simple. I'm tired of it and I want it to end.

Fortunately, my contract with Bell.ca enables callerr-ID, and I have only a
small number of friends that know my number, so it's relatively easy to
delete the bad guys and girls.

--
Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 10:46:40 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:46:40 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hg1CARZMzVhqnWe=V-jk0bcvq1-nZVgCsGg+oSJX-rVg@mail.gmail.com>

Rocky,

You certainly struck a resonant chord with me. When I am out in the world,
increasingly rarely, I most definitely do not want to be interrupted by a
cell-call. Even when I'm at home, I don't want such interruptions, unless
from recognized numbers.

Physical mail is easy enough to deal with -- just toss it in the trash bin.
But for some reason, I keep receiving emails from web sites offering free
sex-chats with Chinese, Russian, Czech, Hungarian and other ethnic women.
The up-side is that at least they recognize that I'm heterosexual. But even
though I spam them, they keep coming. I don't know how they find me, and
why they think I'd pay money for net-sex with some stranger, but I don't
know how to stop all this. I mark all these emails as spam but that doesn't
seem to help.

On the other hand, someday, sometime, I would love to make music with you.
My instrument is tabla, which actually might be redundant with bass, but
maybe with a guitar and a violin we could make something work. What the
hell, let's toss in a banjo! As irt happens, I know a virtuoso player,
Steve Martin -- a very gifted player. Wait, I didn't mean that I know him
personally, just that I've seen him play and he is incredibly gifted. So
I'm going to continue with this fantasy that you're on bass and I'm on
tabla and Steve is on banjo, and we're going to invent a new genre called
Country Eastern Jazz. ?
?

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Oct 26 11:05:54 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 09:05:54 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hg1CARZMzVhqnWe=V-jk0bcvq1-nZVgCsGg+oSJX-rVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
	<CAEPJO1hg1CARZMzVhqnWe=V-jk0bcvq1-nZVgCsGg+oSJX-rVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d22fa2$d49e7e90$7ddb7bb0$@bchacc.com>

I like it!  I'm playing stand-up bass in the house band (just me and the drummer/owner) at a coffee house called Brick 15 in Del Mar on Sunday.  It started by a couple we're friendly with.  He's got a nice roster of talent coming in and people are competing to do Deportee. :)  Should be a hoot!

https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/


So in addition to Martin I'd like to add Woody Guthrie, if that's OK with you.

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:47 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Rocky,

You certainly struck a resonant chord with me. When I am out in the world, increasingly rarely, I most definitely do not want to be interrupted by a cell-call. Even when I'm at home, I don't want such interruptions, unless from recognized numbers.

Physical mail is easy enough to deal with -- just toss it in the trash bin.
But for some reason, I keep receiving emails from web sites offering free sex-chats with Chinese, Russian, Czech, Hungarian and other ethnic women.
The up-side is that at least they recognize that I'm heterosexual. But even though I spam them, they keep coming. I don't know how they find me, and why they think I'd pay money for net-sex with some stranger, but I don't know how to stop all this. I mark all these emails as spam but that doesn't seem to help.

On the other hand, someday, sometime, I would love to make music with you.
My instrument is tabla, which actually might be redundant with bass, but maybe with a guitar and a violin we could make something work. What the hell, let's toss in a banjo! As irt happens, I know a virtuoso player, Steve Martin -- a very gifted player. Wait, I didn't mean that I know him personally, just that I've seen him play and he is incredibly gifted. So I'm going to continue with this fantasy that you're on bass and I'm on tabla and Steve is on banjo, and we're going to invent a new genre called Country Eastern Jazz. ? ? _______________________________________________
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Oct 26 11:14:51 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:14:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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Which model? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed
Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 26 11:24:03 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 16:24:03 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB2198AB7B5C7A30993134452CCAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi John

Whatever fits your budget. I have an old 925, still running very well. Wife Rita has an 820, and son-in-law the latest model - can't recall the number but quite large, too large for me.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 18:15
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Prioritet: H?j

Which model? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 


From df.waters at outlook.com  Wed Oct 26 11:24:48 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 16:24:48 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
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References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <BN3PR19MB0497756C77C16EF5CAD14902F6AB0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Look at www.microsoftstore.com.

They sell Lumia 550, 650, 950, and 950XL.  I have the 950XL and it really do like it! 

The two 950's are unlocked, and will work with either ATT or T-Mobile.

Other sites might have slightly lower prices.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:15 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Importance: High

Which model? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 26 14:03:08 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:03:08 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1101610936.21978522.1477508588425.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Keeping even a small semblance of privacy is almost nigh impossible, these days.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 3:31:51 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know a
lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be purchased
for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of easily-compromised
phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better protected, but even these are
at serious risk.

I could be wrong, but I think that my land-line is safe. Even there, if I
don't recognize the incoming number, then I don't answer. I don't even
answer when someone is buzzing my apartment number -- not without a prior
phone call that he or she will be arriving momentarily.

There is also the cost of a cell phone. Given that I receive a couple of
calls a week. typically from bots trying to sell me subscriptions to
magazines I never read, or alternatively whose content I can obtain on the
net, I simply don't answer, and pretty soon they stroke me off their list
of potential victims.

These companies have cubicles filled with underpaid employees who push a
button and dial the next number in a sequence. If I had any say in the
matter, I would outlaw them all, and send the employers (not the employees)
to prison. This is not a "freedom of speech" issue: this is harassment,
plain and simple. I'm tired of it and I want it to end.

Fortunately, my contract with Bell.ca enables callerr-ID, and I have only a
small number of friends that know my number, so it's relatively easy to
delete the bad guys and girls.

-- 
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 26 14:04:12 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:04:12 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 26 14:11:53 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:11:53 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <204109144.22004084.1477509113096.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

It appears that China has now classified continuous internet use as an addiction. Their government has, as it traditionally does, gone over the top by incarcerating the repeat offenders and are using a regiment of exercise and discipline to break that cycle. 

Would that work here? ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:01:59 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

I hate my cell phone. Hacking doesn't worry me.  It's the intrusive nature
of the thing. And the compulsive way people regard them.  Many, even when
they're not using them, just have them in their hand.

Used to be when you sat down in a bar you laid a package of cigarettes in
the table.  Now people lay out their cell phone.

I hate it.  I don't use it.  But I work at home and have my land line all
the time.  When I'm out, I don't want to talk to people. I certainly don't
want to chat while I'm in the grocery store, or riding my bike.  And I
certainly can't do anything business related when I'm in a restaurant or
driving.

I use the GPS to get places but try not to if I've been there before.
Recent study showed that people who use GPS a lot have atrophy of the
hippocampus.  From disuse.  

But as a telephone it has got to be the world's WORST technology.  When I do
take or make a cell call I know that 50/50 it will be dropped within 3
minutes. Or one of our voices will break up requiring a repeat.  And the
sound quality is often poor. 

Of course the social rules around them are evolving and things will get
better.  But when we go see a play, why at halftime are 2/3rds of the
audience immediately on their cell phones? Why do they check them the second
the place stops at the gate?  

Here's part of the answer:  Look at the Wiki entry for FOMO.  

R



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 3:32 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know a lot
about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be purchased for an
insignificant sum and then employed on an army of easily-compromised phones,
and also tablets. Desktops are better protected, but even these are at
serious risk.

I could be wrong, but I think that my land-line is safe. Even there, if I
don't recognize the incoming number, then I don't answer. I don't even
answer when someone is buzzing my apartment number -- not without a prior
phone call that he or she will be arriving momentarily.

There is also the cost of a cell phone. Given that I receive a couple of
calls a week. typically from bots trying to sell me subscriptions to
magazines I never read, or alternatively whose content I can obtain on the
net, I simply don't answer, and pretty soon they stroke me off their list of
potential victims.

These companies have cubicles filled with underpaid employees who push a
button and dial the next number in a sequence. If I had any say in the
matter, I would outlaw them all, and send the employers (not the employees)
to prison. This is not a "freedom of speech" issue: this is harassment,
plain and simple. I'm tired of it and I want it to end.

Fortunately, my contract with Bell.ca enables callerr-ID, and I have only a
small number of friends that know my number, so it's relatively easy to
delete the bad guys and girls.

--
Arthur
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From df.waters at outlook.com  Wed Oct 26 14:19:23 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 19:19:23 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <DM3PR19MB05068AF9DFF0B16CE1958ECBF6AB0@DM3PR19MB0506.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

A MS Phone has the capability to block any more calls from a specific phone number.  Do Android and/or iPhones have the same?

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:04 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 26 14:19:36 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:19:36 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <000c01d22fa2$d49e7e90$7ddb7bb0$@bchacc.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
	<CAEPJO1hg1CARZMzVhqnWe=V-jk0bcvq1-nZVgCsGg+oSJX-rVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01d22fa2$d49e7e90$7ddb7bb0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <1332098712.22022349.1477509576549.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

That is so cool...would love to see your performance. That takes me back a few years.

Aside: I think we are deviating off technical stuff unless you interested in discussing mathematical intricacies of your playing methods. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 9:05:54 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

I like it!  I'm playing stand-up bass in the house band (just me and the drummer/owner) at a coffee house called Brick 15 in Del Mar on Sunday.  It started by a couple we're friendly with.  He's got a nice roster of talent coming in and people are competing to do Deportee. :)  Should be a hoot!

https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/


So in addition to Martin I'd like to add Woody Guthrie, if that's OK with you.

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:47 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Rocky,

You certainly struck a resonant chord with me. When I am out in the world, increasingly rarely, I most definitely do not want to be interrupted by a cell-call. Even when I'm at home, I don't want such interruptions, unless from recognized numbers.

Physical mail is easy enough to deal with -- just toss it in the trash bin.
But for some reason, I keep receiving emails from web sites offering free sex-chats with Chinese, Russian, Czech, Hungarian and other ethnic women.
The up-side is that at least they recognize that I'm heterosexual. But even though I spam them, they keep coming. I don't know how they find me, and why they think I'd pay money for net-sex with some stranger, but I don't know how to stop all this. I mark all these emails as spam but that doesn't seem to help.

On the other hand, someday, sometime, I would love to make music with you.
My instrument is tabla, which actually might be redundant with bass, but maybe with a guitar and a violin we could make something work. What the hell, let's toss in a banjo! As irt happens, I know a virtuoso player, Steve Martin -- a very gifted player. Wait, I didn't mean that I know him personally, just that I've seen him play and he is incredibly gifted. So I'm going to continue with this fantasy that you're on bass and I'm on tabla and Steve is on banjo, and we're going to invent a new genre called Country Eastern Jazz. ?  _______________________________________________
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 15:08:43 2016
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:08:43 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <DM3PR19MB05068AF9DFF0B16CE1958ECBF6AB0@DM3PR19MB0506.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<DM3PR19MB05068AF9DFF0B16CE1958ECBF6AB0@DM3PR19MB0506.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pJ+NMuc1ptjfBAtux9WRiJ0eaDQ0X2FKRwBUyS4zNK+fA@mail.gmail.com>

Sure.  But the callers change the number they are calling from so you
have to block the new one too.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com> wrote:
> A MS Phone has the capability to block any more calls from a specific phone number.  Do Android and/or iPhones have the same?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:04 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Hi Arthur
>
> Or get a Windows Phone.
>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
> Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
> Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know
>> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be
>> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of
>> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better
>> protected, but even these are at serious risk.
>
> <snip>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 26 15:09:33 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 06:09:33 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <DM3PR19MB05068AF9DFF0B16CE1958ECBF6AB0@DM3PR19MB0506.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>,
	<DM3PR19MB05068AF9DFF0B16CE1958ECBF6AB0@DM3PR19MB0506.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <58110D7D.14640.2A7D420D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

My Samsung Galaxy does.  Just tap a number in the call log and select "Add to Auto Reject 
List"


On 26 Oct 2016 at 19:19, Dan Waters wrote:

> A MS Phone has the capability to block any more calls from a specific
> phone number.  Do Android and/or iPhones have the same?
> 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 26 15:29:06 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 20:29:06 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB21989225E07D02AA96FE4012CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Oct 26 15:30:43 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:30:43 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <204109144.22004084.1477509113096.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
	<204109144.22004084.1477509113096.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <006b01d22fc7$d322b430$79681c90$@bchacc.com>

No - not here.  It would violate our liberties.  We are free to pick our own
handbaskets.

Also, there's not enough money in it. What we would do is get it a DSM
number, and get the insurance companies to pay for treatment. We would use
some kind of new pharmaceutical with no generic.  And a  small thriving
industry would spring up to treat the victims and I would estimate first
year expenditures of just north of $22 billion - about half insurance
premiums, 1/2 federal program.  Make America Great Again!

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:12 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Rocky:

It appears that China has now classified continuous internet use as an
addiction. Their government has, as it traditionally does, gone over the top
by incarcerating the repeat offenders and are using a regiment of exercise
and discipline to break that cycle. 

Would that work here? ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:01:59 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

I hate my cell phone. Hacking doesn't worry me.  It's the intrusive nature
of the thing. And the compulsive way people regard them.  Many, even when
they're not using them, just have them in their hand.

Used to be when you sat down in a bar you laid a package of cigarettes in
the table.  Now people lay out their cell phone.

I hate it.  I don't use it.  But I work at home and have my land line all
the time.  When I'm out, I don't want to talk to people. I certainly don't
want to chat while I'm in the grocery store, or riding my bike.  And I
certainly can't do anything business related when I'm in a restaurant or
driving.

I use the GPS to get places but try not to if I've been there before.
Recent study showed that people who use GPS a lot have atrophy of the
hippocampus.  From disuse.  

But as a telephone it has got to be the world's WORST technology.  When I do
take or make a cell call I know that 50/50 it will be dropped within 3
minutes. Or one of our voices will break up requiring a repeat.  And the
sound quality is often poor. 

Of course the social rules around them are evolving and things will get
better.  But when we go see a play, why at halftime are 2/3rds of the
audience immediately on their cell phones? Why do they check them the second
the place stops at the gate?  

Here's part of the answer:  Look at the Wiki entry for FOMO.  

R



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 3:32 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know a lot
about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be purchased for an
insignificant sum and then employed on an army of easily-compromised phones,
and also tablets. Desktops are better protected, but even these are at
serious risk.

I could be wrong, but I think that my land-line is safe. Even there, if I
don't recognize the incoming number, then I don't answer. I don't even
answer when someone is buzzing my apartment number -- not without a prior
phone call that he or she will be arriving momentarily.

There is also the cost of a cell phone. Given that I receive a couple of
calls a week. typically from bots trying to sell me subscriptions to
magazines I never read, or alternatively whose content I can obtain on the
net, I simply don't answer, and pretty soon they stroke me off their list of
potential victims.

These companies have cubicles filled with underpaid employees who push a
button and dial the next number in a sequence. If I had any say in the
matter, I would outlaw them all, and send the employers (not the employees)
to prison. This is not a "freedom of speech" issue: this is harassment,
plain and simple. I'm tired of it and I want it to end.

Fortunately, my contract with Bell.ca enables callerr-ID, and I have only a
small number of friends that know my number, so it's relatively easy to
delete the bad guys and girls.

--
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 26 16:21:49 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:21:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <58110D7D.14640.2A7D420D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<DM3PR19MB05068AF9DFF0B16CE1958ECBF6AB0@DM3PR19MB0506.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<58110D7D.14640.2A7D420D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <580709512.22323692.1477516909937.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

I think most modern cell phones have that feature?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:09:33 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

My Samsung Galaxy does.  Just tap a number in the call log and select "Add to Auto Reject 
List"


On 26 Oct 2016 at 19:19, Dan Waters wrote:

> A MS Phone has the capability to block any more calls from a specific
> phone number.  Do Android and/or iPhones have the same?
> 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 26 16:51:07 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:51:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB21989225E07D02AA96FE4012CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<DB6PR0601MB21989225E07D02AA96FE4012CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <278974671.22391635.1477518667664.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 26 16:54:41 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:54:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <006b01d22fc7$d322b430$79681c90$@bchacc.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
	<204109144.22004084.1477509113096.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<006b01d22fc7$d322b430$79681c90$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <484776274.22398261.1477518881535.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Ha ha ha. :-)

It appears that all countries have their forms of imprisonment. In this case walls or debt.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:30:43 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

No - not here.  It would violate our liberties.  We are free to pick our own
handbaskets.

Also, there's not enough money in it. What we would do is get it a DSM
number, and get the insurance companies to pay for treatment. We would use
some kind of new pharmaceutical with no generic.  And a  small thriving
industry would spring up to treat the victims and I would estimate first
year expenditures of just north of $22 billion - about half insurance
premiums, 1/2 federal program.  Make America Great Again!

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:12 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Rocky:

It appears that China has now classified continuous internet use as an
addiction. Their government has, as it traditionally does, gone over the top
by incarcerating the repeat offenders and are using a regiment of exercise
and discipline to break that cycle. 

Would that work here? ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:01:59 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

I hate my cell phone. Hacking doesn't worry me.  It's the intrusive nature
of the thing. And the compulsive way people regard them.  Many, even when
they're not using them, just have them in their hand.

Used to be when you sat down in a bar you laid a package of cigarettes in
the table.  Now people lay out their cell phone.

I hate it.  I don't use it.  But I work at home and have my land line all
the time.  When I'm out, I don't want to talk to people. I certainly don't
want to chat while I'm in the grocery store, or riding my bike.  And I
certainly can't do anything business related when I'm in a restaurant or
driving.

I use the GPS to get places but try not to if I've been there before.
Recent study showed that people who use GPS a lot have atrophy of the
hippocampus.  From disuse.  

But as a telephone it has got to be the world's WORST technology.  When I do
take or make a cell call I know that 50/50 it will be dropped within 3
minutes. Or one of our voices will break up requiring a repeat.  And the
sound quality is often poor. 

Of course the social rules around them are evolving and things will get
better.  But when we go see a play, why at halftime are 2/3rds of the
audience immediately on their cell phones? Why do they check them the second
the place stops at the gate?  

Here's part of the answer:  Look at the Wiki entry for FOMO.  

R



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 3:32 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know a lot
about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be purchased for an
insignificant sum and then employed on an army of easily-compromised phones,
and also tablets. Desktops are better protected, but even these are at
serious risk.

I could be wrong, but I think that my land-line is safe. Even there, if I
don't recognize the incoming number, then I don't answer. I don't even
answer when someone is buzzing my apartment number -- not without a prior
phone call that he or she will be arriving momentarily.

There is also the cost of a cell phone. Given that I receive a couple of
calls a week. typically from bots trying to sell me subscriptions to
magazines I never read, or alternatively whose content I can obtain on the
net, I simply don't answer, and pretty soon they stroke me off their list of
potential victims.

These companies have cubicles filled with underpaid employees who push a
button and dial the next number in a sequence. If I had any say in the
matter, I would outlaw them all, and send the employers (not the employees)
to prison. This is not a "freedom of speech" issue: this is harassment,
plain and simple. I'm tired of it and I want it to end.

Fortunately, my contract with Bell.ca enables callerr-ID, and I have only a
small number of friends that know my number, so it's relatively easy to
delete the bad guys and girls.

--
Arthur
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Oct 26 23:34:52 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:34:52 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB2198AB7B5C7A30993134452CCAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198AB7B5C7A30993134452CCAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <033a01d2300b$7622eea0$6268cbe0$@winhaven.net>

Hi Gustav,
I thought maybe you upgraded to the latest one. I still have my Lumia 928.
Love it! We also have an android an iPhone in house and they are nowhere
near as nice.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:24 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi John

Whatever fits your budget. I have an old 925, still running very well. Wife
Rita has an 820, and son-in-law the latest model - can't recall the number
but quite large, too large for me.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
John R Bartow
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 18:15
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Prioritet: H?j

Which model? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed
Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Wed Oct 26 23:39:53 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:39:53 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <BN3PR19MB0497756C77C16EF5CAD14902F6AB0@BN3PR19MB0497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAEYCyN5P/bJBrYSSOqub7FoChQAAEAAAAI6YqdgnOaZGv45tZlB9fWUBAAAAAA==@winhaven.net>
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Message-ID: <034301d2300c$29b62770$7d227650$@winhaven.net>

Hi Dan,
I was considering the 950xl since it can use two SIM cards but I use US
Cellular and SelectTel (Verizon network) and they don't seem to work with
either. I would by it unlocked as that's what I did with my 928 and I like
that better than a contract.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Look at www.microsoftstore.com.

They sell Lumia 550, 650, 950, and 950XL.  I have the 950XL and it really do
like it! 

The two 950's are unlocked, and will work with either ATT or T-Mobile.

Other sites might have slightly lower prices.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John R Bartow
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:15 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Importance: High

Which model? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed
Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 27 01:14:31 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 06:14:31 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Message-ID: <HE1PR0601MB2202E01FCA90CC5E2303B46FCAAA0@HE1PR0601MB2202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk. 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 27 01:18:08 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 06:18:08 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Message-ID: <HE1PR0601MB22029E2E0130380ADF333EF1CAAA0@HE1PR0601MB2202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi John

Same here. Even though the current Lumia models are very cheap, my current 925 fits the bill, not even the battery has been replaced, and I don't buy new models just because they are new. In fact, I feel pity for the Apple lovers that must spend many many bucks any time a new model is launched.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow
Sendt: 27. oktober 2016 06:35
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Prioritet: H?j

Hi Gustav,
I thought maybe you upgraded to the latest one. I still have my Lumia 928.
Love it! We also have an android an iPhone in house and they are nowhere near as nice.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:24 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi John

Whatever fits your budget. I have an old 925, still running very well. Wife Rita has an 820, and son-in-law the latest model - can't recall the number but quite large, too large for me.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John R Bartow
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 18:15
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Prioritet: H?j

Which model? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip> 


From df.waters at outlook.com  Thu Oct 27 08:51:30 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 13:51:30 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <034301d2300c$29b62770$7d227650$@winhaven.net>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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I do have two SIM cards - it's nice!  They apply to emails and to text messages.

On screen: green = personal; purple = business.  (your colors may vary)

Although -  T-mobile doesn't give discounts for a 2nd phone line.  :-(

I had read that many people were hoping that the iPhone 7 would be dual sim, but that didn't happen.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:40 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Importance: High

Hi Dan,
I was considering the 950xl since it can use two SIM cards but I use US Cellular and SelectTel (Verizon network) and they don't seem to work with either. I would by it unlocked as that's what I did with my 928 and I like that better than a contract.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Look at www.microsoftstore.com.

They sell Lumia 550, 650, 950, and 950XL.  I have the 950XL and it really do like it! 

The two 950's are unlocked, and will work with either ATT or T-Mobile.

Other sites might have slightly lower prices.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R Bartow
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:15 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Importance: High

Which model? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:53 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

<snip>
 

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From eptept at gmail.com  Thu Oct 27 09:02:05 2016
From: eptept at gmail.com (Ed Tesiny)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:02:05 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <DM3PR19MB05068AF9DFF0B16CE1958ECBF6AB0@DM3PR19MB0506.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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Dan, load Avast Mobile Security to easily block calls on Android

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com> wrote:

> A MS Phone has the capability to block any more calls from a specific
> phone number.  Do Android and/or iPhones have the same?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:04 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Hi Arthur
>
> Or get a Windows Phone.
>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
> Ed Tesiny
> Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
> Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know
> > a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be
> > purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of
> > easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better
> > protected, but even these are at serious risk.
>
> <snip>
>
>
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From df.waters at outlook.com  Thu Oct 27 09:06:25 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 14:06:25 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <CAEkqQpUVJa8TEax6=_nPs+dJzUeTHJ5EVgzAJz8MdzL_XHyuGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198940D67381B9C31C08D72CAAB0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<235949132.21982359.1477508652062.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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Hi Ed,

What I was trying to say was that the MS Phone (at least the Lumia 950) has call number blocking already built in.  Nothing else needed.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ed Tesiny
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:02 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Dan, load Avast Mobile Security to easily block calls on Android

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com> wrote:

> A MS Phone has the capability to block any more calls from a specific 
> phone number.  Do Android and/or iPhones have the same?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:04 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < 
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Hi Arthur
>
> Or get a Windows Phone.
>
> /gustav
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Ed Tesiny
> Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues < 
> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
> Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller 
> <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to 
> > know a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can 
> > be purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army 
> > of easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> > protected, but even these are at serious risk.
>
> <snip>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 11:56:25 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:56:25 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
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Hi All:

Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management system). https://getgrav.org/

It creates a simple skeleton like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal and DNN and then allows you to build any type of website, from Postcard sites up to very complex business sites. Its features are extensive: https://getgrav.org/features. 

It runs on all platforms, uses SSL protected flatfiles (JSon), has a wide variety of skeletons, themes and plug-ins and they can be mixed and matched: https://getgrav.org/downloads/skeletons. Its themes are modern and websites built with this package will adapt to any real-estate; cell phones, tablets or PCs. There is full documentation (https://learn.getgrav.org/), samples, demos, a community forum, collaborative design capabilities and even online professional services available if they are required. 

The site may seem simple to start but it has available features built-in or can be later added and optimized, that the largest websites use.

It is free to download and use, fully Open source and of course any contributions towards its ongoing design are more than welcomed. It is nice to have a website builder that doesn't need two packsacks and require a two thousand meter verticle climb before the simplest site can be deployed.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 12:17:50 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 11:17:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
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Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following amazing? 

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim    

From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Thu Oct 27 12:39:05 2016
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:39:05 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually ZIP files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not compress much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of an .xlsx file to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager as see the structure laid out.

Lambert? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following amazing? 

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim    
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 17:09:22 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:09:22 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR0601MB2202E01FCA90CC5E2303B46FCAAA0@HE1PR0601MB2202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <HE1PR0601MB2202E01FCA90CC5E2303B46FCAAA0@HE1PR0601MB2202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1136475280.25120952.1477606162959.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk. 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Oct 27 17:16:20 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 08:16:20 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <754982350.24300123.1477587385878.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<754982350.24300123.1477587385878.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <58127CB4.30538.3017B160@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Aargh!

Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"

http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/



On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
> system). https://getgrav.org/
> 
> It creates a simple skeleton like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal and DNN
> and then allows you to build any type of website, from Postcard sites
> up to very complex business sites. Its features are extensive:
> https://getgrav.org/features. 
> 
> It runs on all platforms, uses SSL protected flatfiles (JSon), has a
> wide variety of skeletons, themes and plug-ins and they can be mixed
> and matched: https://getgrav.org/downloads/skeletons. Its themes are
> modern and websites built with this package will adapt to any
> real-estate; cell phones, tablets or PCs. There is full documentation
> (https://learn.getgrav.org/), samples, demos, a community forum,
> collaborative design capabilities and even online professional
> services available if they are required. 
> 
> The site may seem simple to start but it has available features
> built-in or can be later added and optimized, that the largest
> websites use.
> 
> It is free to download and use, fully Open source and of course any
> contributions towards its ongoing design are more than welcomed. It is
> nice to have a website builder that doesn't need two packsacks and
> require a two thousand meter verticle climb before the simplest site
> can be deployed.
> 
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Oct 27 17:32:01 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 08:32:01 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <58128061.5977.30260E5E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I do a lot of work with SQLite.   My favourite tool for working with it (design and data 
manipuation) is the Firefox extension SQLite Manager:

https://github.com/lazierthanthou/sqlite-manager

 There are a few SQLite ODBC drivers available if you want to access SQLite from Access 
etc.  Both commercial and freeware

Here's one released under a BSD-type licence: http://www.ch-werner.de/sqliteodbc/

-- 
Stuart
 

On 27 Oct 2016 at 11:17, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
> amazing? 
> 
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
> 
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
> recommendations?
> 
> TIA
> Jim    
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu Oct 27 17:53:43 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:53:43 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <1136475280.25120952.1477606162959.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <HE1PR0601MB2202E01FCA90CC5E2303B46FCAAA0@HE1PR0601MB2202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1136475280.25120952.1477606162959.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <06a801d230a4$f8684b00$e938e100$@winhaven.net>

SkyMap is on mine :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:09 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

_______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 18:34:15 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:34:15 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <1535063989.25352007.1477611255068.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Lambert:

I did not know that. I could visualize some interesting applications. Have you ever used this knowledge?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:39:05 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually ZIP files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not compress much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of an .xlsx file to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager as see the structure laid out.

Lambert? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following amazing? 

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim    
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 18:49:50 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:49:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <58127CB4.30538.3017B160@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<754982350.24300123.1477587385878.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<58127CB4.30538.3017B160@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <521620926.25377320.1477612190863.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

That is hilarious...where did you find that? Of course I will have to pass this along. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:16:20 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Aargh!

Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"

http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/



On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
> system). https://getgrav.org/
> 
> It creates a simple skeleton like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal and DNN
> and then allows you to build any type of website, from Postcard sites
> up to very complex business sites. Its features are extensive:
> https://getgrav.org/features. 
> 
> It runs on all platforms, uses SSL protected flatfiles (JSon), has a
> wide variety of skeletons, themes and plug-ins and they can be mixed
> and matched: https://getgrav.org/downloads/skeletons. Its themes are
> modern and websites built with this package will adapt to any
> real-estate; cell phones, tablets or PCs. There is full documentation
> (https://learn.getgrav.org/), samples, demos, a community forum,
> collaborative design capabilities and even online professional
> services available if they are required. 
> 
> The site may seem simple to start but it has available features
> built-in or can be later added and optimized, that the largest
> websites use.
> 
> It is free to download and use, fully Open source and of course any
> contributions towards its ongoing design are more than welcomed. It is
> nice to have a website builder that doesn't need two packsacks and
> require a two thousand meter verticle climb before the simplest site
> can be deployed.
> 
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 19:13:49 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 18:13:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <06a801d230a4$f8684b00$e938e100$@winhaven.net>
References: <HE1PR0601MB2202E01FCA90CC5E2303B46FCAAA0@HE1PR0601MB2202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1136475280.25120952.1477606162959.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<06a801d230a4$f8684b00$e938e100$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1276542639.25422835.1477613629839.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

One of my favourite apps...very entertaining on clear sky nights. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:53:43 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

SkyMap is on mine :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:09 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 19:06:27 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 18:06:27 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <58128061.5977.30260E5E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<58128061.5977.30260E5E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1214892487.25408766.1477613187959.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Thanks for all the information. I would assume its performance is stellar.

The plugin actually runs on FireFox :-) ...very handy.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:32:01 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

I do a lot of work with SQLite.   My favourite tool for working with it (design and data 
manipuation) is the Firefox extension SQLite Manager:

https://github.com/lazierthanthou/sqlite-manager

 There are a few SQLite ODBC drivers available if you want to access SQLite from Access 
etc.  Both commercial and freeware

Here's one released under a BSD-type licence: http://www.ch-werner.de/sqliteodbc/

-- 
Stuart
 

On 27 Oct 2016 at 11:17, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
> amazing? 
> 
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
> 
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
> recommendations?
> 
> TIA
> Jim    
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Oct 27 19:35:01 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:35:01 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <1535063989.25352007.1477611255068.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
	<1535063989.25352007.1477611255068.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <58129D35.27460.3096AA51@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

You don't even need to change the extention.  Many ZIP file utilities let you open regardless 
of the extension.  ( I just right click on a .xlsx file and select 7Zip - Open from my explorer 
menu.)

I've done this occassionally.  If you need to check the number of sheets and the sheet names 
(and possibly rename sheets) in a load of workbooks, the simplest way is to open the  
archive  7Zip and edit the file Workbook.xml.     

It's fairly simple to write a small utility to do this this sort of thing for all the files in a directory.
:)


On 27 Oct 2016 at 17:34, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Lambert:
> 
> I did not know that. I could visualize some interesting applications.
> Have you ever used this knowledge?
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016
> 10:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually
> ZIP files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not
> compress much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of
> an .xlsx file to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager
> as see the structure laid out.
> 
> Lambert? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:18 PM To:
> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
> amazing? 
> 
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
> 
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
> recommendations?
> 
> TIA
> Jim    
> _______________________________________________
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Oct 27 19:36:21 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:36:21 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <521620926.25377320.1477612190863.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<58127CB4.30538.3017B160@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<521620926.25377320.1477612190863.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <58129D85.5717.3097E464@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Can't remember where I first came across that site, but it's SO true :)

-- 
Stuart

On 27 Oct 2016 at 17:49, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> That is hilarious...where did you find that? Of course I will have to
> pass this along. :-)
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016
> 3:16:20 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
> 
> Aargh!
> 
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another
> bloody Bootstrap site!"
> 
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > Hi All:
> > 
> > Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
> > system). https://getgrav.org/
> > 
> > It creates a simple skeleton like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal and DNN
> > and then allows you to build any type of website, from Postcard
> > sites up to very complex business sites. Its features are extensive:
> > https://getgrav.org/features. 
> > 
> > It runs on all platforms, uses SSL protected flatfiles (JSon), has a
> > wide variety of skeletons, themes and plug-ins and they can be mixed
> > and matched: https://getgrav.org/downloads/skeletons. Its themes are
> > modern and websites built with this package will adapt to any
> > real-estate; cell phones, tablets or PCs. There is full
> > documentation (https://learn.getgrav.org/), samples, demos, a
> > community forum, collaborative design capabilities and even online
> > professional services available if they are required. 
> > 
> > The site may seem simple to start but it has available features
> > built-in or can be later added and optimized, that the largest
> > websites use.
> > 
> > It is free to download and use, fully Open source and of course any
> > contributions towards its ongoing design are more than welcomed. It
> > is nice to have a website builder that doesn't need two packsacks
> > and require a two thousand meter verticle climb before the simplest
> > site can be deployed.
> > 
> > Jim
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> 
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 19:40:49 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 18:40:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <58129D35.27460.3096AA51@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<1535063989.25352007.1477611255068.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<58129D35.27460.3096AA51@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1955628340.25470693.1477615249777.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

That is so cool. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:35:01 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

You don't even need to change the extention.  Many ZIP file utilities let you open regardless 
of the extension.  ( I just right click on a .xlsx file and select 7Zip - Open from my explorer 
menu.)

I've done this occassionally.  If you need to check the number of sheets and the sheet names 
(and possibly rename sheets) in a load of workbooks, the simplest way is to open the  
archive  7Zip and edit the file Workbook.xml.     

It's fairly simple to write a small utility to do this this sort of thing for all the files in a directory.
:)


On 27 Oct 2016 at 17:34, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Lambert:
> 
> I did not know that. I could visualize some interesting applications.
> Have you ever used this knowledge?
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016
> 10:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually
> ZIP files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not
> compress much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of
> an .xlsx file to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager
> as see the structure laid out.
> 
> Lambert? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:18 PM To:
> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
> amazing? 
> 
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
> 
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
> recommendations?
> 
> TIA
> Jim    
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 27 21:31:16 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 21:31:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <6157b37f-a551-e7b5-e829-cfd401162431@earthlink.net>

On 10/27/2016 12:17, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following amazing?
>
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
>
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

SQLite bloat and the slowness it causes were some of the reasons I gave 
up on FF.

PB

>
> TIA
> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 27 21:20:00 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 20:20:00 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <58129D85.5717.3097E464@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<58127CB4.30538.3017B160@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<521620926.25377320.1477612190863.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<58129D85.5717.3097E464@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1642999182.25659898.1477621200283.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

I will agree with you that all the new sites and site templates are almost exactly the same. Its the new site fashion...and it is getting boring real fast. (I will blame it on Microsoft ;-)) I think the effort is to build a design that is functional on all devices...without doing three re-writes. Big profession sites do exactly that.

But people are just not interested in paying top dollar for meticulous hand written sites anymore...with the potential of three sites. I can't stand the old sites either...they look so kludge, boring and dated, on cheesy side...an when they appear on a cell phone they are completely unnavigatable.  

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:36:21 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Can't remember where I first came across that site, but it's SO true :)

-- 
Stuart

On 27 Oct 2016 at 17:49, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> That is hilarious...where did you find that? Of course I will have to
> pass this along. :-)
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016
> 3:16:20 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
> 
> Aargh!
> 
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another
> bloody Bootstrap site!"
> 
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > Hi All:
> > 
> > Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
> > system). https://getgrav.org/
> > 
> > It creates a simple skeleton like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal and DNN
> > and then allows you to build any type of website, from Postcard
> > sites up to very complex business sites. Its features are extensive:
> > https://getgrav.org/features. 
> > 
> > It runs on all platforms, uses SSL protected flatfiles (JSon), has a
> > wide variety of skeletons, themes and plug-ins and they can be mixed
> > and matched: https://getgrav.org/downloads/skeletons. Its themes are
> > modern and websites built with this package will adapt to any
> > real-estate; cell phones, tablets or PCs. There is full
> > documentation (https://learn.getgrav.org/), samples, demos, a
> > community forum, collaborative design capabilities and even online
> > professional services available if they are required. 
> > 
> > The site may seem simple to start but it has available features
> > built-in or can be later added and optimized, that the largest
> > websites use.
> > 
> > It is free to download and use, fully Open source and of course any
> > contributions towards its ongoing design are more than welcomed. It
> > is nice to have a website builder that doesn't need two packsacks
> > and require a two thousand meter verticle climb before the simplest
> > site can be deployed.
> > 
> > Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 28 00:15:02 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 23:15:02 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <6157b37f-a551-e7b5-e829-cfd401162431@earthlink.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<6157b37f-a551-e7b5-e829-cfd401162431@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1156410936.25894576.1477631702725.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Why does SQLite start to slow down? That suggests there are some serious flaws with that DB...how can that be. Do you have any docs on the subject? If I clear the FF database tables will FF speed and responsiveness improve?

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:31:16 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On 10/27/2016 12:17, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following amazing?
>
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
>
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

SQLite bloat and the slowness it causes were some of the reasons I gave 
up on FF.

PB

>
> TIA
> Jim
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 28 00:31:51 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 00:31:51 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <1156410936.25894576.1477631702725.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<6157b37f-a551-e7b5-e829-cfd401162431@earthlink.net>
	<1156410936.25894576.1477631702725.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <013ed27e-9933-9c46-ee64-185dca64ec40@earthlink.net>

On 10/28/2016 0:15, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Why does SQLite start to slow down? That suggests there are some serious flaws with that DB...

Agreed. I think it was designed as a beginner's sql tool. it doesn't 
scale. How the Mozilla people talked themselves into building FF around 
it, I dunno.

PB


> how can that be. Do you have any docs on the subject? If I clear the FF database tables will FF speed and responsiveness improve?
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:31:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>
> On 10/27/2016 12:17, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following amazing?
>>
>> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
>>
>> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?
> SQLite bloat and the slowness it causes were some of the reasons I gave
> up on FF.
>
> PB
>
>> TIA
>> Jim
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 28 00:57:32 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 05:57:32 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB21988EC6DF32DB87889BDC18CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Stuart

Very clever, though I've never had the need to rename sheets in an automated way.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 02:35
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

You don't even need to change the extention.  Many ZIP file utilities let you open regardless of the extension.  ( I just right click on a .xlsx file and select 7Zip - Open from my explorer
menu.)

I've done this occassionally.  If you need to check the number of sheets and the sheet names (and possibly rename sheets) in a load of workbooks, the simplest way is to open the  
archive  7Zip and edit the file Workbook.xml.     

It's fairly simple to write a small utility to do this this sort of thing for all the files in a directory.
:)


On 27 Oct 2016 at 17:34, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Lambert:
> 
> I did not know that. I could visualize some interesting applications.
> Have you ever used this knowledge?
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016
> 10:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually 
> ZIP files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not 
> compress much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of 
> an .xlsx file to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager 
> as see the structure laid out.
> 
> Lambert 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 28 01:21:42 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 06:21:42 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Stuart

Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.

I'll certainly keep that link.
 
Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):

    http://hellomind.com

And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
 
/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Aargh!

Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"

http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/



On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management 
> system). https://getgrav.org/ 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct 28 01:26:29 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 16:26:29 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <013ed27e-9933-9c46-ee64-185dca64ec40@earthlink.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<1156410936.25894576.1477631702725.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>,
	<013ed27e-9933-9c46-ee64-185dca64ec40@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5812EF95.25175.31D870A2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Not a beginners tool at all.  It was designed as a a self-contained, embeddable, 
zero-configuration SQL database engine for stand alone applications and it does that better 
than anything else available.

If the database and the interfaces to the DLL it are properly designed, it has no problem 
working with quite large datasets.

I just checked and the largest .sqlite file used by FF on my PC is a bit over 200MB and 
contains about 30,000 records.   Using SQLite manager, I  ran a select which returned 123 of 
those 30,000 records in 69 milliseconds.  






On 28 Oct 2016 at 0:31, Peter Brawley wrote:

 
> Agreed. I think it was designed as a beginner's sql tool. it doesn't
> scale. How the Mozilla people talked themselves into building FF
> around it, I dunno.
> 
> PB
> 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 28 01:35:08 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 06:35:08 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB21988AA89C077B875020EDF4CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

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Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:09
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

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From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk. 


From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Fri Oct 28 07:34:12 2016
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 12:34:12 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <1535063989.25352007.1477611255068.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<1535063989.25352007.1477611255068.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <HE1P115MB0025E0B832606BF17655335D9CAD0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I confess not. Forget where I heard about it too. :-)

Lambert? 


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:34 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi Lambert:

I did not know that. I could visualize some interesting applications. Have you ever used this knowledge?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:39:05 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually ZIP files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not compress much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of an .xlsx file to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager as see the structure laid out.

Lambert? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following amazing? 

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim    
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Oct 28 10:31:41 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:31:41 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <08d701d23130$64b28ce0$2e17a6a0$@winhaven.net>

A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's database
as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little bloated when used
by FF. (?)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
amazing? 

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite
files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches
and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date,
size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose
some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind
you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks,
the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
(50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find
details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite
has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a
while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite?
If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim    
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Oct 28 10:31:41 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:31:41 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <58129D35.27460.3096AA51@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
	<1535063989.25352007.1477611255068.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<58129D35.27460.3096AA51@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <08d601d23130$6232e6e0$2698b4a0$@winhaven.net>

Nice tip! Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:35 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

You don't even need to change the extention.  Many ZIP file utilities let
you open regardless of the extension.  ( I just right click on a .xlsx file
and select 7Zip - Open from my explorer
menu.)

I've done this occassionally.  If you need to check the number of sheets and
the sheet names (and possibly rename sheets) in a load of workbooks, the
simplest way is to open the  
archive  7Zip and edit the file Workbook.xml.     

It's fairly simple to write a small utility to do this this sort of thing
for all the files in a directory.
:)


On 27 Oct 2016 at 17:34, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Lambert:
> 
> I did not know that. I could visualize some interesting applications.
> Have you ever used this knowledge?
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016
> 10:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually 
> ZIP files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not 
> compress much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of 
> an .xlsx file to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager 
> as see the structure laid out.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:18 PM To:
> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following 
> amazing?
> 
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of 
> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted 
> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All 
> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in 
> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just 
> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version 
> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges 
> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is 
> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple 
> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
> 
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect 
> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt 
> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had 
> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or 
> recommendations?
> 
> TIA
> Jim    
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Oct 28 10:31:41 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:31:41 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <08d801d23130$6527bce0$2f7736a0$@winhaven.net>

That is cool. Makes me wonder if docx, pptx, etc are the similar.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:39 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually ZIP
files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not compress
much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of an .xlsx file
to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager as see the structure
laid out.

Lambert? 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
amazing? 

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite
files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches
and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date,
size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose
some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind
you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks,
the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
(50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find
details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite
has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a
while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite?
If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim    
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 10:59:47 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:59:47 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>

My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, something
like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of upgrades (replaced
the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course the usual OS upgrades.)
Now she powers on and I can hear the fan running, and the hard-disk light
blinking, but nothing else happens.

I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see if I
can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally prepared
to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a living, but
just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just simple email and
browsing.

The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more than a
refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently purchased a
refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, and her boyfriend
kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about $60.

I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper to
replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm
comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even despite
her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has performed
very well and I don't want to pull the plug.

The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a tablet
called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names derive.

What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Oct 28 11:07:56 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:07:56 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <026001d23135$722c9dc0$5685d940$@bchacc.com>

I think Guinevere died when you replaced the motherboard. It's like
replacing your brain.  New knees, hips, corneas, heart transplant and all
that and you're still you. But replace your brain with someone else's and
they are them using your peripherals.  

Time to let her go Arthur.  I hope this flimsy rationalization helps ease
your period of grief and you will be left with nothing but sweet memories of
the life Guinevere shared with you.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:00 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, something like
20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of upgrades (replaced the
motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course the usual OS upgrades.) Now
she powers on and I can hear the fan running, and the hard-disk light
blinking, but nothing else happens.

I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see if I
can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally prepared
to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a living, but
just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just simple email and
browsing.

The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more than a
refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently purchased a
refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, and her boyfriend
kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about $60.

I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper to
replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm comfortable
with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even despite her mere 4
GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has performed very well and
I don't want to pull the plug.

The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a tablet
called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names derive.

What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?

--
Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 28 11:24:09 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 16:24:09 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB21989DA56E851E6193108FD2CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur

I'm with Rocky. Since you have replaced the motherboard - how could you? - only the skin is back of your old darling.

By the way, I thought for a name for our main server doing not much more than hosting all our virtual servers, thus hidden for daily use. "serverone" was a little boring so I decided for "atlantis".

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 18:00
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, something like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of upgrades (replaced the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course the usual OS upgrades.) Now she powers on and I can hear the fan running, and the hard-disk light blinking, but nothing else happens.

I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see if I can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally prepared to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a living, but just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just simple email and browsing.

The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more than a refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently purchased a refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, and her boyfriend kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about $60.

I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper to replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even despite her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has performed very well and I don't want to pull the plug.

The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a tablet called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names derive.

What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?

--
Arthur 


From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 11:48:08 2016
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:48:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_pL6t_2EqQp1iDfeTYYm1HFOTDHn7-RwrJ5=Lv=9vyJa5g@mail.gmail.com>

The most cost effective solution would be to let it go and replace it
if you need that extra system.

Figuring out exactly what the problem is would seem to be the first question.

Does it BEEP after you turn it on?  I think a single beep means it
made it through the POST (Power On Self Test).

Does it have a video card?  Or onboard Video?   Perhaps the monitor is gone bad?

 Are there any led lights on the back?

You could start pulling stuff out.... disconnect the hard drive
cables, pull out the RAM then see if you at least can get to the BIOS
screen.

No matter what is broke it's going to cost money to replace it though
and used/refurbed computers are pretty cheap.

Good luck with it.

GK

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
> She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, something
> like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of upgrades (replaced
> the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course the usual OS upgrades.)
> Now she powers on and I can hear the fan running, and the hard-disk light
> blinking, but nothing else happens.
>
> I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see if I
> can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally prepared
> to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a living, but
> just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just simple email and
> browsing.
>
> The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more than a
> refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently purchased a
> refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, and her boyfriend
> kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about $60.
>
> I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper to
> replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm
> comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even despite
> her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has performed
> very well and I don't want to pull the plug.
>
> The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a tablet
> called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names derive.
>
> What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Oct 28 11:51:31 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:51:31 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB21989DA56E851E6193108FD2CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB21989DA56E851E6193108FD2CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <027601d2313b$8928a720$9b79f560$@bchacc.com>

You sure?

" fictional island mentioned within an allegory on the hubris of nations in
Plato's works Timaeus and Critias"

" Atlantis eventually falls out of favor with the gods"

In Critias: "But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods;
and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body
sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared
in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is
impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and
this was caused by the subsidence of the island."

Not auspicious. 

How about Athena: "the goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration,
civilization, law and justice, mathematics, strength, war strategy, the
arts, crafts, and skill in ancient Greek religion and mythology. Minerva is
the Roman goddess identified with Athena.[2] Athena is known for her calm
temperament, as she moves slowly to anger."

Real jack of all trades, that one. :)


r


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:24 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

Hi Arthur

I'm with Rocky. Since you have replaced the motherboard - how could you? -
only the skin is back of your old darling.

By the way, I thought for a name for our main server doing not much more
than hosting all our virtual servers, thus hidden for daily use. "serverone"
was a little boring so I decided for "atlantis".

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af
Arthur Fuller
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 18:00
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, something like
20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of upgrades (replaced the
motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course the usual OS upgrades.) Now
she powers on and I can hear the fan running, and the hard-disk light
blinking, but nothing else happens.

I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see if I
can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally prepared
to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a living, but
just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just simple email and
browsing.

The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more than a
refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently purchased a
refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, and her boyfriend
kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about $60.

I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper to
replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm comfortable
with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even despite her mere 4
GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has performed very well and
I don't want to pull the plug.

The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a tablet
called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names derive.

What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?

--
Arthur 

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Oct 28 12:12:00 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 12:12:00 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_pL6t_2EqQp1iDfeTYYm1HFOTDHn7-RwrJ5=Lv=9vyJa5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iKOi_=sViP3mOz5KDiHq6piFqwgzfZC+aTsNYZoxWi6w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pL6t_2EqQp1iDfeTYYm1HFOTDHn7-RwrJ5=Lv=9vyJa5g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <097501d2313e$65d6b930$31842b90$@winhaven.net>

Yep, could be as simple as the cmos battery is dead. $3.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Gary Kjos
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:48 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

The most cost effective solution would be to let it go and replace it if you
need that extra system.

Figuring out exactly what the problem is would seem to be the first
question.

Does it BEEP after you turn it on?  I think a single beep means it made it
through the POST (Power On Self Test).

Does it have a video card?  Or onboard Video?   Perhaps the monitor is gone
bad?

 Are there any led lights on the back?

You could start pulling stuff out.... disconnect the hard drive cables, pull
out the RAM then see if you at least can get to the BIOS screen.

No matter what is broke it's going to cost money to replace it though and
used/refurbed computers are pretty cheap.

Good luck with it.

GK

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
wrote:
> My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
> She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, 
> something like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of 
> upgrades (replaced the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course 
> the usual OS upgrades.) Now she powers on and I can hear the fan 
> running, and the hard-disk light blinking, but nothing else happens.
>
> I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see 
> if I can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally 
> prepared to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a 
> living, but just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just 
> simple email and browsing.
>
> The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more 
> than a refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently 
> purchased a refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, 
> and her boyfriend kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about
$60.
>
> I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper 
> to replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm 
> comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even 
> despite her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has 
> performed very well and I don't want to pull the plug.
>
> The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a 
> tablet called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names
derive.
>
> What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



--
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 28 12:21:04 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 17:21:04 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB2198E99A1540F85B0D447926CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rocky

Ha ha, I see your point. But the light rationale is that no one really knows. And, to be honest, I didn't spend that much time thinking it over - it just should be easy to remember.

But I must admit that Athena/Minerva is hard to beat for a meaningful name.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Rocky Smolin
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 18:52
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

You sure?

" fictional island mentioned within an allegory on the hubris of nations in Plato's works Timaeus and Critias"

" Atlantis eventually falls out of favor with the gods"

In Critias: "But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island."

Not auspicious. 

How about Athena: "the goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration, civilization, law and justice, mathematics, strength, war strategy, the arts, crafts, and skill in ancient Greek religion and mythology. Minerva is the Roman goddess identified with Athena.[2] Athena is known for her calm temperament, as she moves slowly to anger."

Real jack of all trades, that one. :)


r


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:24 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

Hi Arthur

I'm with Rocky. Since you have replaced the motherboard - how could you? - only the skin is back of your old darling.

By the way, I thought for a name for our main server doing not much more than hosting all our virtual servers, thus hidden for daily use. "serverone"
was a little boring so I decided for "atlantis".

/gustav 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 12:47:41 2016
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 13:47:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB2198E99A1540F85B0D447926CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198E99A1540F85B0D447926CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gHB4PW+sg4RtuWc8caqLgb=1Hcd2NaHUMo6iMitH+9Lw@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

Your command of English continues to amaze me. I think that I speak English
pretty well, but you continue to amaze me with your command of the
language. And I don't even know how to say "Hello" or "How are you?"" in
Danish. I'll Google it right now and try to catch up, but you're
embarrassing me. I can speak several languages, but Danish is not included
in the list. I'm going to work on it, starting today.

A.
?

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 28 13:56:10 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 12:56:10 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
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Hi Gustav:

Unfortunately, we have no competition here or more accurately all the players only competed on making the rates exactly the same. The last time there was a challenge to their authority, multiple millions were spent on shutting the opponent down. The best Canadian phone company, Ting, had to move to the the states where they are giving exceptional service to boys and girl below the 49th parallel...their head-quarters is still in Toronto.

We here can only dream of such rates and service.

About the analyzer, when in business it was so useful (traditionally server rooms would have very bad connection but not always and not always all over the room(s)) and here when there is multiple competing open hot-spots, the app is useful, for checking which is the most stable and has the best signal...or even if there is a strong enough signal. When in a large building, for example, signal strength can be checked, at various locations, in real-time when expecting a call or making one. I can not imagine that Microsoft does not have a third-party that would provide one... 

There are a number of Open Source analyzers out there...mostly built in "C". How much difficulty would it take to convert such a app to run on Window cell phone addition? Example: https://github.com/luigino/linssid/find/master but there are many more.

Jim  

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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

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Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

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Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

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Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

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Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk. 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 28 14:01:10 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 13:01:10 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
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:-)

Jim

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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:21:42 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Hi Stuart

Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.

I'll certainly keep that link.
 
Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):

    http://hellomind.com

And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
 
/gustav


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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Aargh!

Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"

http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/



On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management 
> system). https://getgrav.org/ 

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Oct 28 15:07:31 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 15:07:31 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
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Give us the name of a WiFi analyzer and I'll check for it in the windows store.


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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

Unfortunately, we have no competition here or more accurately all the players only competed on making the rates exactly the same. The last time there was a challenge to their authority, multiple millions were spent on shutting the opponent down. The best Canadian phone company, Ting, had to move to the the states where they are giving exceptional service to boys and girl below the 49th parallel...their head-quarters is still in Toronto.

We here can only dream of such rates and service.

About the analyzer, when in business it was so useful (traditionally server rooms would have very bad connection but not always and not always all over the room(s)) and here when there is multiple competing open hot-spots, the app is useful, for checking which is the most stable and has the best signal...or even if there is a strong enough signal. When in a large building, for example, signal strength can be checked, at various locations, in real-time when expecting a call or making one. I can not imagine that Microsoft does not have a third-party that would provide one... 

There are a number of Open Source analyzers out there...mostly built in "C". How much difficulty would it take to convert such a app to run on Window cell phone addition? Example: https://github.com/luigino/linssid/find/master but there are many more.

Jim  

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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
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Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

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Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 28 16:09:50 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 15:09:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
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Hi John:

It appears that FF saves everything a user does and everywhere a user goes. You can see how those files can quickly grow. 

I do not have a Windows machine immediately handy so I can not see where and how FF stores the data but I would suspect almost exact as in Linux. In their data directory, I noticed that there are blank file templated. This suggests that the current data files can be archive and a clean empty templates renamed, in their place. (This so much reminds me of outlook and its very limited MDB database.)

Does CCleaner actually go into the tables and remove the oldest records or does it just run a compress on the files? Note: As far as I can see FF never deletes anything so a table compression would be pointless. I have looked into the size capabilities of a SQLite table and it is 60TB or more. I believe, that FF, in order to increase search speeds, loads the indexes into memory and hence why all the memory disappears. That said, it seems that all the browsers function exactly the same way. 

Looking at all the scenarios, I might just spend sometime and do some serious editing of the SQLite files and strip out most of the garbage...manually. It could take quite a while but at least for a time after, it would be like having a new browser. :-)

Jim

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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:31:41 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's database
as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little bloated when used
by FF. (?)

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Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
amazing? 

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite
files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches
and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date,
size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose
some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind
you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks,
the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
(50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find
details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite
has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a
while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite?
If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim    
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 28 16:17:15 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 15:17:15 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere
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Arthur, I am the king of rebuilding computers but sometimes these old boxes have to be retired...technology has moved on so far in twenty years that most modern software wouldn't work...regardless of the OS. 

Jim

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59:47 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] R.I.P. Guinevere

My ancient HP Millennium computer appears finally to have bitten the dust.
She has performed superbly for -- I can't even remember, now, something
like 20 years. Since I bought her, I've done a couple of upgrades (replaced
the motherboard, added a hard disk, and of course the usual OS upgrades.)
Now she powers on and I can hear the fan running, and the hard-disk light
blinking, but nothing else happens.

I'm going to try a couple of things over the weekend. First is to see if I
can boot from an Ubuntu disk, and if that works, then I'm totally prepared
to make her a Linux woman, Since I no longer write code for a living, but
just as a hobby, most of the Linux stuff I do is just simple email and
browsing.

The ethical dilemma I'm facing is that to repair her might cost more than a
refurbished desktop from my favourite store. I just recently purchased a
refurbished Lenovo for my best friend Audra's birthday, and her boyfriend
kicked in 50%, so net, net, net it cost us each about $60.

I'm torn between emotion and economics. It might ultimately be cheaper to
replace Guinevere, but that sounds more like a Trumpism than I'm
comfortable with. Until recently, she has performed admirably. Even despite
her mere 4 GB of RAM and about 500 GB of disk storage, she has performed
very well and I don't want to pull the plug.

The computer I work on every day is called Avalon. And I also have a tablet
called Lancelot. You may be able to guess from whence these names derive.

What should I do about Guinevere? Emotions or economics?

-- 
Arthur
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Fri Oct 28 16:32:24 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:32:24 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/

Sent from my Windows Phone
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Sent: ?28/?10/?2016 22:10
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi John:

It appears that FF saves everything a user does and everywhere a user goes. You can see how those files can quickly grow.

I do not have a Windows machine immediately handy so I can not see where and how FF stores the data but I would suspect almost exact as in Linux. In their data directory, I noticed that there are blank file templated. This suggests that the current data files can be archive and a clean empty templates renamed, in their place. (This so much reminds me of outlook and its very limited MDB database.)

Does CCleaner actually go into the tables and remove the oldest records or does it just run a compress on the files? Note: As far as I can see FF never deletes anything so a table compression would be pointless. I have looked into the size capabilities of a SQLite table and it is 60TB or more. I believe, that FF, in order to increase search speeds, loads the indexes into memory and hence why all the memory disappears. That said, it seems that all the browsers function exactly the same way.

Looking at all the scenarios, I might just spend sometime and do some serious editing of the SQLite files and strip out most of the garbage...manually. It could take quite a while but at least for a time after, it would be like having a new browser. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:31:41 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's database
as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little bloated when used
by FF. (?)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
amazing?

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite
files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches
and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date,
size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose
some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind
you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks,
the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
(50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find
details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite
has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a
while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite?
If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 28 18:30:36 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 17:30:36 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <0a9801d23156$eb88b840$c29a28c0$@winhaven.net>
References: <DB6PR0601MB21988AA89C077B875020EDF4CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<156107106.27228897.1477680970334.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<0a9801d23156$eb88b840$c29a28c0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1277861404.27895130.1477697436652.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

On my cell phone...an ancient Samsung...in the days of lead acid batteries, I installed a WiFi analyzer called "amped wireless" (www.ampedwireless.com/). I am not even sure if the app is still being downloaded/download-able but it has been a great tool for both work and pleasure.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:07:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Give us the name of a WiFi analyzer and I'll check for it in the windows store.


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

Unfortunately, we have no competition here or more accurately all the players only competed on making the rates exactly the same. The last time there was a challenge to their authority, multiple millions were spent on shutting the opponent down. The best Canadian phone company, Ting, had to move to the the states where they are giving exceptional service to boys and girl below the 49th parallel...their head-quarters is still in Toronto.

We here can only dream of such rates and service.

About the analyzer, when in business it was so useful (traditionally server rooms would have very bad connection but not always and not always all over the room(s)) and here when there is multiple competing open hot-spots, the app is useful, for checking which is the most stable and has the best signal...or even if there is a strong enough signal. When in a large building, for example, signal strength can be checked, at various locations, in real-time when expecting a call or making one. I can not imagine that Microsoft does not have a third-party that would provide one... 

There are a number of Open Source analyzers out there...mostly built in "C". How much difficulty would it take to convert such a app to run on Window cell phone addition? Example: https://github.com/luigino/linssid/find/master but there are many more.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:09
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 28 18:37:18 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 17:37:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825115@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<08d701d23130$64b28ce0$2e17a6a0$@winhaven.net>
	<2059453660.27548776.1477688990845.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825115@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <60973234.27907798.1477697838430.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Thanks for the link, Martin. I used Stuart's recommendation as well and now I am good to go. :-)

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Reid" <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 2:32:24 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Jim Lawrence<mailto:accessd at shaw.ca>
Sent: ?28/?10/?2016 22:10
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi John:

It appears that FF saves everything a user does and everywhere a user goes. You can see how those files can quickly grow.

I do not have a Windows machine immediately handy so I can not see where and how FF stores the data but I would suspect almost exact as in Linux. In their data directory, I noticed that there are blank file templated. This suggests that the current data files can be archive and a clean empty templates renamed, in their place. (This so much reminds me of outlook and its very limited MDB database.)

Does CCleaner actually go into the tables and remove the oldest records or does it just run a compress on the files? Note: As far as I can see FF never deletes anything so a table compression would be pointless. I have looked into the size capabilities of a SQLite table and it is 60TB or more. I believe, that FF, in order to increase search speeds, loads the indexes into memory and hence why all the memory disappears. That said, it seems that all the browsers function exactly the same way.

Looking at all the scenarios, I might just spend sometime and do some serious editing of the SQLite files and strip out most of the garbage...manually. It could take quite a while but at least for a time after, it would be like having a new browser. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:31:41 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's database
as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little bloated when used
by FF. (?)

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox

Hi All:

Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
amazing?

I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of SQLite
files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted site, caches
and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All tranaction date,
size, duration, activity and location is stored in the records. If you lose
some information and wish to trace it just dig through these files. Mind
you, if you have been using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks,
the files are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
(50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to find
details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).

I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect SQLite
has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt for quite a
while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had experience with SQLite?
If you have do you have any comments or recommendations?

TIA
Jim
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct 28 18:50:44 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 09:50:44 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <08d701d23130$64b28ce0$2e17a6a0$@winhaven.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>,
	<08d701d23130$64b28ce0$2e17a6a0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but the maximum RowID 
is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could do with "Conpact".

Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db cleanup.



On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:

> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's
> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little
> bloated when used by FF. (?)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM To:
> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
> amazing? 
> 
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
> 
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
> recommendations?
> 
> TIA
> Jim    
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct 28 18:51:32 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 09:51:32 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <08d801d23130$6527bce0$2f7736a0$@winhaven.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<HE1P115MB0025B0FD65206F95BE50C9529CAA0@HE1P115MB0025.NAMP115.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
	<08d801d23130$6527bce0$2f7736a0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <5813E484.29207.35953655@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Yes, they are.

On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:

> That is cool. Makes me wonder if docx, pptx, etc are the similar.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:39 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re:
> [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> On a related note. Did you know that Excel 2007+ files are actually
> ZIP files containing a series of XLM files. That's why they do not
> compress much: already compressed internally. Change the extension of
> an .xlsx file to ZIP and you can open it in your favorite ZIP manager
> as see the structure laid out.
> 
> Lambert? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:18 PM To:
> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
> amazing? 
> 
> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
> 
> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
> recommendations?
> 
> TIA
> Jim    
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 28 19:53:44 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 19:53:44 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<08d701d23130$64b28ce0$2e17a6a0$@winhaven.net>
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>

On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but the maximum RowID
> is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could do with "Conpact".
No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with a 
rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead space---the 
diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no impact 
whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.

PB

------

> Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db cleanup.
>
>
>
> On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
>
>> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's
>> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little
>> bloated when used by FF. (?)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
>> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM To:
>> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
>> amazing?
>>
>> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
>> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
>> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
>> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
>> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
>> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
>> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
>> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
>> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
>> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
>>
>> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
>> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
>> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
>> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
>> recommendations?
>>
>> TIA
>> Jim
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct 28 20:50:07 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 11:50:07 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On looking into it further, you are correct about RowID, it is just an automatic ANPK which is 
included in the definition of any table created without the "WITHOUT ROWID" clause.  

But there was indeed a lot of wasted space, regardless.

Just copied that file to the desktop and did a Compact on it using SQLite manager:
The result was:

The database was compacted using VACUUM statement.
Before compacting:
	Page Count    = 8692
	Database Size = 284819456 bytes
After compacting:
	Page Count    = 5038
	Database Size = 165085184 bytes

That's over 40% reduction in file size.

Interesting discussion of Row IDs and WITHOUT ROWID here:
http://sqlite.org/autoinc.html
and
https://www.sqlite.org/withoutrowid.html


-- 
Stuart

On 28 Oct 2016 at 19:53, Peter Brawley wrote:

> On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> > The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but
> > the maximum RowID is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could
> > do with "Conpact".
> No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with
> a rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead
> space---the diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no
> impact whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.
> 
> PB
> 
> ------
> 
> > Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db
> > cleanup.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
> >
> >> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's
> >> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little
> >> bloated when used by FF. (?)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM
> >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech]
> >> FireFox
> >>
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the
> >> following amazing?
> >>
> >> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
> >> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie,
> >> visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database
> >> files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location
> >> is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to
> >> trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been
> >> using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files
> >> are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
> >> (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to
> >> find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how
> >> SQLite works).
> >>
> >> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
> >> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command
> >> prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else
> >> had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
> >> recommendations?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >> Jim
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> >
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Oct 28 21:43:38 2016
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:43:38 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>,
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0be001d2318e$412b00a0$c38101e0$@winhaven.net>

I would assume that is what ccleaner does.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:50 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On looking into it further, you are correct about RowID, it is just an
automatic ANPK which is included in the definition of any table created
without the "WITHOUT ROWID" clause.  

But there was indeed a lot of wasted space, regardless.

Just copied that file to the desktop and did a Compact on it using SQLite
manager:
The result was:

The database was compacted using VACUUM statement.
Before compacting:
	Page Count    = 8692
	Database Size = 284819456 bytes
After compacting:
	Page Count    = 5038
	Database Size = 165085184 bytes

That's over 40% reduction in file size.

Interesting discussion of Row IDs and WITHOUT ROWID here:
http://sqlite.org/autoinc.html
and
https://www.sqlite.org/withoutrowid.html


--
Stuart

On 28 Oct 2016 at 19:53, Peter Brawley wrote:

> On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> > The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but 
> > the maximum RowID is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could 
> > do with "Conpact".
> No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with 
> a rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead 
> space---the diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no 
> impact whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.
> 
> PB
> 
> ------
> 
> > Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db 
> > cleanup.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
> >
> >> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's 
> >> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little 
> >> bloated when used by FF. (?)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> >> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM
> >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] 
> >> FireFox
> >>
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the 
> >> following amazing?
> >>
> >> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of 
> >> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, 
> >> visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database 
> >> files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location 
> >> is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to 
> >> trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been 
> >> using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files 
> >> are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
> >> (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to 
> >> find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how 
> >> SQLite works).
> >>
> >> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect 
> >> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command 
> >> prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else 
> >> had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or 
> >> recommendations?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >> Jim
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
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> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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> >
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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 22:08:09 2016
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 23:08:09 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Playing bass - was Re: Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <000c01d22fa2$d49e7e90$7ddb7bb0$@bchacc.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
	<CAEPJO1hg1CARZMzVhqnWe=V-jk0bcvq1-nZVgCsGg+oSJX-rVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01d22fa2$d49e7e90$7ddb7bb0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <728edd85-b21b-0a3d-8b70-d73ab0e71a67@gmail.com>

Rocky, I too am playing bass.  I have a majorish mangle in my fretting 
hand / arm from a motorcycle accident back in 1986 (in San Marcos as it 
happens), and as a result can't get good supination of my left arm / 
hand.  But... I can play this little thing called a U-Bass.  I am 
absolutely loving it.

Not playing in public (yet) but I am playing to songs on my phone, 
streamed via bluetooth to my little bose speaker.  Things like

Exile - Woke Up in Love

Asleep at the wheel - Coast to coast

Darius Rucker - Wagon Wheel

Eva Cassidy - Wade in the water

Robert Plant - Killing the blues (almost as good as Rolland Salley's 
version)

and many others, mostly of the blues / country genre.

Not really good enough yet to go do the jazz stuff, but workin' on it.  
So much fun.

On 10/26/2016 12:05 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I like it!  I'm playing stand-up bass in the house band (just me and the drummer/owner) at a coffee house called Brick 15 in Del Mar on Sunday.  It started by a couple we're friendly with.  He's got a nice roster of talent coming in and people are competing to do Deportee. :)  Should be a hoot!
>
> https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/
>
>
> So in addition to Martin I'd like to add Woody Guthrie, if that's OK with you.
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:47 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Rocky,
>
> You certainly struck a resonant chord with me. When I am out in the world, increasingly rarely, I most definitely do not want to be interrupted by a cell-call. Even when I'm at home, I don't want such interruptions, unless from recognized numbers.
>
> Physical mail is easy enough to deal with -- just toss it in the trash bin.
> But for some reason, I keep receiving emails from web sites offering free sex-chats with Chinese, Russian, Czech, Hungarian and other ethnic women.
> The up-side is that at least they recognize that I'm heterosexual. But even though I spam them, they keep coming. I don't know how they find me, and why they think I'd pay money for net-sex with some stranger, but I don't know how to stop all this. I mark all these emails as spam but that doesn't seem to help.
>
> On the other hand, someday, sometime, I would love to make music with you.
> My instrument is tabla, which actually might be redundant with bass, but maybe with a guitar and a violin we could make something work. What the hell, let's toss in a banjo! As irt happens, I know a virtuoso player, Steve Martin -- a very gifted player. Wait, I didn't mean that I know him personally, just that I've seen him play and he is incredibly gifted. So I'm going to continue with this fantasy that you're on bass and I'm on tabla and Steve is on banjo, and we're going to invent a new genre called Country Eastern Jazz. ? ? _______________________________________________
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Oct 28 23:20:37 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:20:37 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Playing bass - was Re: Why I just destroyed my cell
 phone
In-Reply-To: <728edd85-b21b-0a3d-8b70-d73ab0e71a67@gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>	<CAEPJO1hg1CARZMzVhqnWe=V-jk0bcvq1-nZVgCsGg+oSJX-rVg@mail.gmail.com>	<000c01d22fa2$d49e7e90$7ddb7bb0$@bchacc.com>
	<728edd85-b21b-0a3d-8b70-d73ab0e71a67@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002d01d2319b$cd0192d0$6704b870$@bchacc.com>

Playing music - the most fun you can have with your clothes on. :)

Would it work better for you to play left handed? 

I played a u-bass a few months ago.  With those thick rubbery strings? The conga player in my Cuban band had one and brought it to a jam for me to try.  Amazing!  It had pretty high quality bass sound when amplified - very impressive. A Kala?

I came late to this bass thing - like you.  But I switched to upright a couple years ago from electric - playing rock and blues.  Much harder than electric.  But right for the genre.

But I play standards - don't play anything I can't whistle or sing in the shower. So no stuff like Coltrane.  Just what they call straight ahead.  It's different but it ain't so difficult.

But I'll play anything (musical whore). Played Dixieland for a few years until we...well...disbanded.

I'm bass in the house band at a local coffee house this Sunday - a Woody Guthrie tribute. 

http://www.brick15.com/

https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/


I got my start playing out through a Meetup site - met a lot of musicians that way.  Check it out in your area.  Then you can go play with people.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:08 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; jwcolby at gmail.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Playing bass - was Re: Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Rocky, I too am playing bass.  I have a majorish mangle in my fretting hand / arm from a motorcycle accident back in 1986 (in San Marcos as it happens), and as a result can't get good supination of my left arm / hand.  But... I can play this little thing called a U-Bass.  I am absolutely loving it.

Not playing in public (yet) but I am playing to songs on my phone, streamed via bluetooth to my little bose speaker.  Things like

Exile - Woke Up in Love

Asleep at the wheel - Coast to coast

Darius Rucker - Wagon Wheel

Eva Cassidy - Wade in the water

Robert Plant - Killing the blues (almost as good as Rolland Salley's
version)

and many others, mostly of the blues / country genre.

Not really good enough yet to go do the jazz stuff, but workin' on it.  
So much fun.

On 10/26/2016 12:05 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I like it!  I'm playing stand-up bass in the house band (just me and the drummer/owner) at a coffee house called Brick 15 in Del Mar on Sunday.  It started by a couple we're friendly with.  He's got a nice roster of talent coming in and people are competing to do Deportee. :)  Should be a hoot!
>
> https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/
>
>
> So in addition to Martin I'd like to add Woody Guthrie, if that's OK with you.
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:47 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Rocky,
>
> You certainly struck a resonant chord with me. When I am out in the world, increasingly rarely, I most definitely do not want to be interrupted by a cell-call. Even when I'm at home, I don't want such interruptions, unless from recognized numbers.
>
> Physical mail is easy enough to deal with -- just toss it in the trash bin.
> But for some reason, I keep receiving emails from web sites offering free sex-chats with Chinese, Russian, Czech, Hungarian and other ethnic women.
> The up-side is that at least they recognize that I'm heterosexual. But even though I spam them, they keep coming. I don't know how they find me, and why they think I'd pay money for net-sex with some stranger, but I don't know how to stop all this. I mark all these emails as spam but that doesn't seem to help.
>
> On the other hand, someday, sometime, I would love to make music with you.
> My instrument is tabla, which actually might be redundant with bass, 
> but maybe with a guitar and a violin we could make something work. 
> What the hell, let's toss in a banjo! As irt happens, I know a 
> virtuoso player, Steve Martin -- a very gifted player. Wait, I didn't 
> mean that I know him personally, just that I've seen him play and he 
> is incredibly gifted. So I'm going to continue with this fantasy that 
> you're on bass and I'm on tabla and Steve is on banjo, and we're going 
> to invent a new genre called Country Eastern Jazz. ? ? 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

--
John W. Colby

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Oct 28 23:34:57 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:34:57 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Ad Blocker for Edge
Message-ID: <002f01d2319d$cd899ca0$689cd5e0$@bchacc.com>

Switched to W10 and tried Edge when Firefox wouldn't behave good.  So I'm
drifting away it but the ads in edge are annoying.  I forgot how bad it can
be.  What's the gold standard of ad blockers for Edge?  Still AdBlock?

 

R

 


From jwcolby at gmail.com  Sat Oct 29 00:42:12 2016
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 01:42:12 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Playing bass - was Re: Why I just destroyed my cell
 phone
In-Reply-To: <002d01d2319b$cd0192d0$6704b870$@bchacc.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>
	<CAEPJO1hg1CARZMzVhqnWe=V-jk0bcvq1-nZVgCsGg+oSJX-rVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01d22fa2$d49e7e90$7ddb7bb0$@bchacc.com>
	<728edd85-b21b-0a3d-8b70-d73ab0e71a67@gmail.com>
	<002d01d2319b$cd0192d0$6704b870$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <c316494c-234b-15be-b0b8-6fd73399b482@gmail.com>

Yep a Kala U-Bass.  I was in a music store one day and heard someone 
playing bass.  Except there was only one guy, back in the back and it 
was obvious he didn't have a bass. Yep, a U-Bass.  I knew by looking I 
could play it and bought it on the spot.  It helps that they are cheap.

I actually use coconut oil when I start playing, to "oil" the strings 
(and my fingers on both hands) to get rid of the screeching feel / sound 
from sliding on the rubber.

I love mine, though the intonation is just awful.  They are not 
adjustable as a real bass is.

I just bought a 30" short scale (Ibenez Mikro 5 string) to see if I 
could play that.  Actually quite a nice little bass.  Barely playable 
with my wrist / arm, but I am working on it.  The low B takes some 
getting used to (fingering) but I sure like the extra depth.

At my age, it might be the most fun I can have regardless of the state 
of my clothes.  ;)


On 10/29/2016 12:20 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Playing music - the most fun you can have with your clothes on. :)
>
> Would it work better for you to play left handed?
>
> I played a u-bass a few months ago.  With those thick rubbery strings? The conga player in my Cuban band had one and brought it to a jam for me to try.  Amazing!  It had pretty high quality bass sound when amplified - very impressive. A Kala?
>
> I came late to this bass thing - like you.  But I switched to upright a couple years ago from electric - playing rock and blues.  Much harder than electric.  But right for the genre.
>
> But I play standards - don't play anything I can't whistle or sing in the shower. So no stuff like Coltrane.  Just what they call straight ahead.  It's different but it ain't so difficult.
>
> But I'll play anything (musical whore). Played Dixieland for a few years until we...well...disbanded.
>
> I'm bass in the house band at a local coffee house this Sunday - a Woody Guthrie tribute.
>
> http://www.brick15.com/
>
> https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/
>
>
> I got my start playing out through a Meetup site - met a lot of musicians that way.  Check it out in your area.  Then you can go play with people.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:08 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; jwcolby at gmail.com
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Playing bass - was Re: Why I just destroyed my cell phone
>
> Rocky, I too am playing bass.  I have a majorish mangle in my fretting hand / arm from a motorcycle accident back in 1986 (in San Marcos as it happens), and as a result can't get good supination of my left arm / hand.  But... I can play this little thing called a U-Bass.  I am absolutely loving it.
>
> Not playing in public (yet) but I am playing to songs on my phone, streamed via bluetooth to my little bose speaker.  Things like
>
> Exile - Woke Up in Love
>
> Asleep at the wheel - Coast to coast
>
> Darius Rucker - Wagon Wheel
>
> Eva Cassidy - Wade in the water
>
> Robert Plant - Killing the blues (almost as good as Rolland Salley's
> version)
>
> and many others, mostly of the blues / country genre.
>
> Not really good enough yet to go do the jazz stuff, but workin' on it.
> So much fun.
>
> On 10/26/2016 12:05 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>> I like it!  I'm playing stand-up bass in the house band (just me and the drummer/owner) at a coffee house called Brick 15 in Del Mar on Sunday.  It started by a couple we're friendly with.  He's got a nice roster of talent coming in and people are competing to do Deportee. :)  Should be a hoot!
>>
>> https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/
>>
>>
>> So in addition to Martin I'd like to add Woody Guthrie, if that's OK with you.
>>
>> R
>>

-- 
John W. Colby


From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct 29 02:50:45 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:50:45 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Ad Blocker for Edge
In-Reply-To: <002f01d2319d$cd899ca0$689cd5e0$@bchacc.com>
References: <002f01d2319d$cd899ca0$689cd5e0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB2198A3D7D8BFED00192F9535CAAC0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rocky

We use Adblock Plus. It doesn't strip add trailers from videos as Adblock Plus for IE does. But I rarely see such videos so when I have to, I just use IE.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sendt: 29. oktober 2016 06:34:57
Til: List; 'Off Topic'
Emne: [dba-Tech] Ad Blocker for Edge

Switched to W10 and tried Edge when Firefox wouldn't behave good.  So I'm
drifting away it but the ads in edge are annoying.  I forgot how bad it can
be.  What's the gold standard of ad blockers for Edge?  Still AdBlock?



R



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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Oct 29 09:32:02 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 10:32:02 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often 
another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful 
transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can 
navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of 
dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>   
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>   
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Oct 29 09:36:49 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 14:36:49 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often
another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful
transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can
navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of
dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Oct 29 09:54:22 2016
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 10:54:22 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <81ed3b42-503c-e704-dd8d-9f5591f297e1@torchlake.com>

Hello, Martin,

What a beautiful university!

The website is very pretty with wonderful photographs. But, for me, it 
is not easy to use. Everything is in a separate category represented by 
a photograph and a phrase, but, there does not appear to be a simple 
listing of courses or program curricula. I may not have taken enough 
time to explore it all, but, being able to find the information I want, 
quickly and easily is very important to me. Having to scroll for a long 
time to try to see all the things that are available does not appeal to me.

Still, it's a beautiful university, and I'd be proud to be part of it - 
as I'm sure you are.

Regards,
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/29/16 10:36 AM, Martin Reid wrote:
> What do you think of this. I don't like it
>
> Www.qub.ac.uk
>
> Martin
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
> Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often
> another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful
> transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can
> navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of
> dancing baloney.
>
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
>> Hi Stuart
>>
>> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>>
>> I'll certainly keep that link.
>>
>> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>>
>>       http://hellomind.com
>>
>> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
>> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
>> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>>
>> Aargh!
>>
>> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>>
>> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>>> system). https://getgrav.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> _______________________________________________
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> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Oct 29 09:56:51 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 14:56:51 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <81ed3b42-503c-e704-dd8d-9f5591f297e1@torchlake.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<81ed3b42-503c-e704-dd8d-9f5591f297e1@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082557B@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Hi Tina

That's about how I see it as well

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:54
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Hello, Martin,

What a beautiful university!

The website is very pretty with wonderful photographs. But, for me, it
is not easy to use. Everything is in a separate category represented by
a photograph and a phrase, but, there does not appear to be a simple
listing of courses or program curricula. I may not have taken enough
time to explore it all, but, being able to find the information I want,
quickly and easily is very important to me. Having to scroll for a long
time to try to see all the things that are available does not appeal to me.

Still, it's a beautiful university, and I'd be proud to be part of it -
as I'm sure you are.

Regards,
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/29/16 10:36 AM, Martin Reid wrote:
> What do you think of this. I don't like it
>
> Www.qub.ac.uk
>
> Martin
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
> Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often
> another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful
> transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can
> navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of
> dancing baloney.
>
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
>> Hi Stuart
>>
>> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>>
>> I'll certainly keep that link.
>>
>> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>>
>>       http://hellomind.com
>>
>> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Stuart McLachlan
>> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
>> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>>
>> Aargh!
>>
>> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>>
>> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>>> system). https://getgrav.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Oct 29 11:13:36 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 09:13:36 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Playing bass - was Re: Why I just destroyed my cell
 phone
In-Reply-To: <c316494c-234b-15be-b0b8-6fd73399b482@gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1iDPG9zt=5tbKU-FAu5t=ar3fxU-6zYk9ZdDO0hemrCrg@mail.gmail.com>	<057201d22f89$233449a0$699cdce0$@bchacc.com>	<CAEPJO1hg1CARZMzVhqnWe=V-jk0bcvq1-nZVgCsGg+oSJX-rVg@mail.gmail.com>	<000c01d22fa2$d49e7e90$7ddb7bb0$@bchacc.com>	<728edd85-b21b-0a3d-8b70-d73ab0e71a67@gmail.com>	<002d01d2319b$cd0192d0$6704b870$@bchacc.com>
	<c316494c-234b-15be-b0b8-6fd73399b482@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002501d231ff$67892b70$369b8250$@bchacc.com>

My electric is a Schechter Studio 5.  Five string.  When people ask me what
the fifth string is for I tell them it's in case I break one during a gig.

I find that the low D on the B string is handy when you're playing in G and
want to g o down to the fifth instead of up. Handy too in a lot of cases if
you're in second position, up the neck a ways. 

Wonder how long the moderator will turn a blind eye to this thread.  It is
the weekend after all...

r


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John Colby
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:42 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; jwcolby at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Playing bass - was Re: Why I just destroyed my cell
phone

Yep a Kala U-Bass.  I was in a music store one day and heard someone playing
bass.  Except there was only one guy, back in the back and it was obvious he
didn't have a bass. Yep, a U-Bass.  I knew by looking I could play it and
bought it on the spot.  It helps that they are cheap.

I actually use coconut oil when I start playing, to "oil" the strings (and
my fingers on both hands) to get rid of the screeching feel / sound from
sliding on the rubber.

I love mine, though the intonation is just awful.  They are not adjustable
as a real bass is.

I just bought a 30" short scale (Ibenez Mikro 5 string) to see if I could
play that.  Actually quite a nice little bass.  Barely playable with my
wrist / arm, but I am working on it.  The low B takes some getting used to
(fingering) but I sure like the extra depth.

At my age, it might be the most fun I can have regardless of the state of my
clothes.  ;)


On 10/29/2016 12:20 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Playing music - the most fun you can have with your clothes on. :)
>
> Would it work better for you to play left handed?
>
> I played a u-bass a few months ago.  With those thick rubbery strings? The
conga player in my Cuban band had one and brought it to a jam for me to try.
Amazing!  It had pretty high quality bass sound when amplified - very
impressive. A Kala?
>
> I came late to this bass thing - like you.  But I switched to upright a
couple years ago from electric - playing rock and blues.  Much harder than
electric.  But right for the genre.
>
> But I play standards - don't play anything I can't whistle or sing in the
shower. So no stuff like Coltrane.  Just what they call straight ahead.
It's different but it ain't so difficult.
>
> But I'll play anything (musical whore). Played Dixieland for a few years
until we...well...disbanded.
>
> I'm bass in the house band at a local coffee house this Sunday - a Woody
Guthrie tribute.
>
> http://www.brick15.com/
>
> https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/
>
>
> I got my start playing out through a Meetup site - met a lot of musicians
that way.  Check it out in your area.  Then you can go play with people.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John Colby
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:08 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; jwcolby at gmail.com
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Playing bass - was Re: Why I just destroyed my cell
phone
>
> Rocky, I too am playing bass.  I have a majorish mangle in my fretting
hand / arm from a motorcycle accident back in 1986 (in San Marcos as it
happens), and as a result can't get good supination of my left arm / hand.
But... I can play this little thing called a U-Bass.  I am absolutely loving
it.
>
> Not playing in public (yet) but I am playing to songs on my phone,
streamed via bluetooth to my little bose speaker.  Things like
>
> Exile - Woke Up in Love
>
> Asleep at the wheel - Coast to coast
>
> Darius Rucker - Wagon Wheel
>
> Eva Cassidy - Wade in the water
>
> Robert Plant - Killing the blues (almost as good as Rolland Salley's
> version)
>
> and many others, mostly of the blues / country genre.
>
> Not really good enough yet to go do the jazz stuff, but workin' on it.
> So much fun.
>
> On 10/26/2016 12:05 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>> I like it!  I'm playing stand-up bass in the house band (just me and the
drummer/owner) at a coffee house called Brick 15 in Del Mar on Sunday.  It
started by a couple we're friendly with.  He's got a nice roster of talent
coming in and people are competing to do Deportee. :)  Should be a hoot!
>>
>> https://www.brick15.com/event/woody-guthrie-tribute/
>>
>>
>> So in addition to Martin I'd like to add Woody Guthrie, if that's OK with
you.
>>
>> R
>>

-- 
John W. Colby

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Oct 29 12:08:56 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 10:08:56 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management 
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Oct 29 12:34:02 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 17:34:02 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Oct 29 12:37:32 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 17:37:32 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA08256DE@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky post grad is where the money is particularly international pgs. It one of our major targets.

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Martin Reid<mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


_______________________________________________
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Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Oct 29 12:45:31 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 10:45:31 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <004801d2320c$3ed357c0$bc7a0740$@bchacc.com>

OK - syntax a little fractured but I get your drift... :)

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:34 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management 
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________
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dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


_______________________________________________
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Oct 29 12:46:14 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 10:46:14 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA08256DE@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA08256DE@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <004901d2320c$588fa150$09aee3f0$@bchacc.com>

Got it - sales and marketing...

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky post grad is where the money is particularly international pgs. It one of our major targets.

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Martin Reid<mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management 
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

_______________________________________________
dba-Tech mailing list
dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________
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dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Oct 29 12:54:58 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 17:54:58 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <004901d2320c$588fa150$09aee3f0$@bchacc.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA08256DE@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004901d2320c$588fa150$09aee3f0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082572C@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky

Hope you don't mind but I sent your comments to our head of web dev. As a first time user you picked up a lot from the site.

Martin


Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:47
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Got it - sales and marketing...

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky post grad is where the money is particularly international pgs. It one of our major targets.

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Martin Reid<mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

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________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Oct 29 13:17:34 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 11:17:34 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082572C@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA08256DE@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004901d2320c$588fa150$09aee3f0$@bchacc.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082572C@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <005001d23210$b8dd6bb0$2a984310$@bchacc.com>

No, that's OK - I'm pretty far away.

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:55 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Hope you don't mind but I sent your comments to our head of web dev. As a first time user you picked up a lot from the site.

Martin


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________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:47
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Got it - sales and marketing...

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky post grad is where the money is particularly international pgs. It one of our major targets.

Martin

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________________________________
From: Martin Reid<mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

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________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne 
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management 
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Oct 29 15:09:57 2016
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 06:09:57 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <58150215.29289.39F0B451@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Aaaaah, we've been rickrolled!    ;)

Yep, a classic example of "same old f******* Bootstrap site".


On 29 Oct 2016 at 14:36, Martin Reid wrote:

> What do you think of this. I don't like it
> 
> Www.qub.ac.uk
> 
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
> Sent: 29/10/2016 15:32
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software
> issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech]
> Easy to use CMS
> 
> I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often
> another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful
> transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can
> navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of
> dancing baloney.
> 
> TNF
> 
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
> 
> On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> > Hi Stuart
> >
> > Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my
> > favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless
> > scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for
> > pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
> >
> > I'll certainly keep that link.
> >
> > Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys
> > behind this app):
> >
> >      http://hellomind.com
> >
> > And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser?
> > Don't.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P?
> > vegne af Stuart McLachlan Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16 Til:
> > Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
> >
> > Aargh!
> >
> > Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another
> > bloody Bootstrap site!"
> >
> > http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
> >> system). https://getgrav.org/
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Oct 30 01:18:16 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 00:18:16 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<08d701d23130$64b28ce0$2e17a6a0$@winhaven.net>
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <949645754.30161493.1477808296289.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Peter:

A question... 

You said the SQLite was not a good database and suggested that there was some serious problems with it. Of course there should be no expectation that it matches features of MySQL or MS SQL but if the product is faulty...I would like to know why and how?

I decided to take a closer look at the SQLite DB, when I discovered it as the BE to FF and when Microsoft announced they would be supporting its use on Azure. If the application is really crippled why would MS be boosting it?  

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 5:53:44 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but the maximum RowID
> is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could do with "Conpact".
No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with a 
rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead space---the 
diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no impact 
whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.

PB

------

> Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db cleanup.
>
>
>
> On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
>
>> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's
>> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little
>> bloated when used by FF. (?)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
>> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM To:
>> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
>> amazing?
>>
>> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
>> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
>> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
>> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
>> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
>> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
>> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
>> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
>> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
>> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
>>
>> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
>> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
>> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
>> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
>> recommendations?
>>
>> TIA
>> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Oct 30 01:22:07 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 00:22:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <188424068.30163053.1477808527221.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Stuart:

Thanks for the info.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 6:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On looking into it further, you are correct about RowID, it is just an automatic ANPK which is 
included in the definition of any table created without the "WITHOUT ROWID" clause.  

But there was indeed a lot of wasted space, regardless.

Just copied that file to the desktop and did a Compact on it using SQLite manager:
The result was:

The database was compacted using VACUUM statement.
Before compacting:
	Page Count    = 8692
	Database Size = 284819456 bytes
After compacting:
	Page Count    = 5038
	Database Size = 165085184 bytes

That's over 40% reduction in file size.

Interesting discussion of Row IDs and WITHOUT ROWID here:
http://sqlite.org/autoinc.html
and
https://www.sqlite.org/withoutrowid.html


-- 
Stuart

On 28 Oct 2016 at 19:53, Peter Brawley wrote:

> On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> > The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but
> > the maximum RowID is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could
> > do with "Conpact".
> No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with
> a rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead
> space---the diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no
> impact whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.
> 
> PB
> 
> ------
> 
> > Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db
> > cleanup.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
> >
> >> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's
> >> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little
> >> bloated when used by FF. (?)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM
> >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech]
> >> FireFox
> >>
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the
> >> following amazing?
> >>
> >> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
> >> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie,
> >> visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database
> >> files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location
> >> is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to
> >> trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been
> >> using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files
> >> are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
> >> (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to
> >> find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how
> >> SQLite works).
> >>
> >> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
> >> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command
> >> prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else
> >> had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
> >> recommendations?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >> Jim
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Oct 30 01:45:03 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 00:45:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <0be001d2318e$412b00a0$c38101e0$@winhaven.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<5813E454.25855.35947A75@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0167bb3a-5d93-27b9-f5e6-007e3e8a8b72@earthlink.net>
	<5814004F.14756.3601C701@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<0be001d2318e$412b00a0$c38101e0$@winhaven.net>
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Hi John:

I am not saying CCleaner can not do that but that feat would be more than incredible for a garbage collection and disposal application to have that capability. Any documentation handy?

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 7:43:38 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

I would assume that is what ccleaner does.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:50 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On looking into it further, you are correct about RowID, it is just an
automatic ANPK which is included in the definition of any table created
without the "WITHOUT ROWID" clause.  

But there was indeed a lot of wasted space, regardless.

Just copied that file to the desktop and did a Compact on it using SQLite
manager:
The result was:

The database was compacted using VACUUM statement.
Before compacting:
	Page Count    = 8692
	Database Size = 284819456 bytes
After compacting:
	Page Count    = 5038
	Database Size = 165085184 bytes

That's over 40% reduction in file size.

Interesting discussion of Row IDs and WITHOUT ROWID here:
http://sqlite.org/autoinc.html
and
https://www.sqlite.org/withoutrowid.html


--
Stuart

On 28 Oct 2016 at 19:53, Peter Brawley wrote:

> On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> > The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but 
> > the maximum RowID is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could 
> > do with "Conpact".
> No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with 
> a rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead 
> space---the diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no 
> impact whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.
> 
> PB
> 
> ------
> 
> > Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db 
> > cleanup.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
> >
> >> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's 
> >> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little 
> >> bloated when used by FF. (?)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On 
> >> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM
> >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] 
> >> FireFox
> >>
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the 
> >> following amazing?
> >>
> >> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of 
> >> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, 
> >> visted site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database 
> >> files. All tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location 
> >> is stored in the records. If you lose some information and wish to 
> >> trace it just dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been 
> >> using your version of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files 
> >> are huge and date ranges are the only way to find anything usable
> >> (50 pages of data is useless)...spent hours last night trying to 
> >> find details on a couple of visited site (and was learning how 
> >> SQLite works).
> >>
> >> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect 
> >> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command 
> >> prompt for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else 
> >> had experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or 
> >> recommendations?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >> Jim
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dba-Tech mailing list
> >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Sun Oct 30 10:40:42 2016
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:40:42 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cross Posted - What to use to create a virtual machine
 with linux
Message-ID: <CALGJE94G4DYVgvftY7drhGhdwSMvGLys-YRwZXCuxpALZj3Jjg@mail.gmail.com>

To all,

I have always been a windows user, only ever dabbling with unix/linux for a
short while years back when on a C programming course.  However I hear more
and more about linux and would like to have a look especially as I am
thinking of starting my own business next year when I get some inheritence
come through, so would like to get used to both systems etc, I am also
currently teaching myself other languages such as C#, HTML/HTML5/CSS,
ASP.net and also topping up my VB.net knowledge....Then I plan on learning
PHP, Python, Ruby and R but anyway I am drifting off topic in my
dreamworld.....

So basically could anyone tell me the best way to create a virtual machine
(so many options on the web) and what version of linux is the best to work
with.

Many many thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 30 12:56:57 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 12:56:57 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <949645754.30161493.1477808296289.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
	<705469808.24369656.1477588670485.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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On 10/30/2016 1:18, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> A question...
>
> You said the SQLite was not a good database and suggested that there was some serious problems with it. Of course there should be no expectation that it matches features of MySQL or MS SQL but if the product is faulty...I would like to know why and how?

Hi Jim,

Not that it's "not good", just that it's more suited to beginner and 
smaller database problems because it's a more limited implementation of 
ISO SQL specs than MSSQL, Oracle, MySQL, PostGres &c. It's not really 
even client-server. The sqlite site 
(http://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html) lists circumstances where you 
should use a more complete DB tool.

Some specific limits: loose data typing so dodgy data integrity, very 
limited ALTER TABLE, limitations in transaction blocking, query engine 
limits (no right join, complex queries get problematic), loosy-goosy 
aggregation can elicit wrong results with no warning, no GRANT or 
REVOKE, Views are read-only.

> I decided to take a closer look at the SQLite DB, when I discovered it as the BE to FF and when Microsoft announced they would be supporting its use on Azure. If the application is really crippled why would MS be boosting it?

SQLite has its place, as its market success indicates. Think Access.

PB

-----

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 5:53:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>
> On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>> The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but the maximum RowID
>> is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could do with "Conpact".
> No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with a
> rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead space---the
> diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no impact
> whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.
>
> PB
>
> ------
>
>> Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db cleanup.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
>>
>>> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's
>>> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little
>>> bloated when used by FF. (?)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM To:
>>> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>>>
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
>>> amazing?
>>>
>>> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
>>> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
>>> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
>>> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
>>> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
>>> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
>>> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
>>> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
>>> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
>>> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
>>>
>>> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
>>> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
>>> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
>>> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
>>> recommendations?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Jim
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 30 13:05:40 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 13:05:40 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cross Posted - What to use to create a virtual
 machine with linux
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE94G4DYVgvftY7drhGhdwSMvGLys-YRwZXCuxpALZj3Jjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE94G4DYVgvftY7drhGhdwSMvGLys-YRwZXCuxpALZj3Jjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ac59f5fb-08b8-dab2-5e35-55050f172409@earthlink.net>

On 10/30/2016 10:40, Paul Hartland via dba-Tech wrote:
> To all,
>
> I have always been a windows user, only ever dabbling with unix/linux for a
> short while years back when on a C programming course.  However I hear more
> and more about linux and would like to have a look especially as I am
> thinking of starting my own business next year when I get some inheritence
> come through, so would like to get used to both systems etc, I am also
> currently teaching myself other languages such as C#, HTML/HTML5/CSS,
> ASP.net and also topping up my VB.net knowledge....Then I plan on learning
> PHP, Python, Ruby and R but anyway I am drifting off topic in my
> dreamworld.....
>
> So basically could anyone tell me the best way to create a virtual machine
> (so many options on the web) and what version of linux is the best to work
> with.
>
> Many many thanks in advance for any help on this.

What worked for me on a win10 laptop with 8GB RAM: VMWare Workstation 
Player 12.5, then created a VM for Linux Mint 18. Give it 4GB of memory 
and at least 50GB of disk space. Both are free, the combo works like a 
charm, easily shares folders with the host.

Good luck.

PB

>


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Oct 30 14:33:25 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 13:33:25 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cross Posted - What to use to create a virtual
 machine with linux
In-Reply-To: <CALGJE94G4DYVgvftY7drhGhdwSMvGLys-YRwZXCuxpALZj3Jjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALGJE94G4DYVgvftY7drhGhdwSMvGLys-YRwZXCuxpALZj3Jjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <892958257.31024491.1477856005408.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Paul:

That is a massive subject. I like you, but in my case, more than ten years ago, I started looking at Linux. The revelation came when I realized that the further I got away from the Desktop and started supporting the corporate, scientific, startup communities, it is a Linux (UNIX) world. From then on I have never looked back.

This is not to say I do not like Microsoft but I am just no longer one of the fanboz. IMHO, in a decade or so, Windows will just be another Distro on top of a Linux core. I could go into great lengths as why this event is the future but...

The thought that I can download for free, a computer system that runs the most powerful computers on the planet and run it on my desktop has always delighted me.

If you wish to run Linux from within a VD, on your computer, no problem. Both VirtualBox and VMWare fully support all versions of Linux (After all they are both written on top of core Linux) or you could run it on a Microsoft Hyper-V server (its free...and of course written on/from core Linux). Just download the ISOs and install them in an instance on the VD of your choice.

If you want to learn more about Linux, checkout the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution 
The graphic on the right side of the page is staggering...and also may be confusing because there are is so many specialty versions of Linux and there are more every day. Check out: https://distrowatch.com/. It's like a bubbling cauldron, the list just keeps changing every day.

That all said, the most popular non-linux user friendly distros out there today are;
1. Linux Mint at: https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
2. Ubuntu 16.10 at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.10/
3. Mate Ubuntu 16.10: https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/

These versions, come in 32bit or 64bit, have a number of graphical desktop displays, if so desired, all have a whole raft of preloaded software, can run every application you mentioned. If you wish to migrate all your personal Microsoft products to Linux, the simple software layer called WINE or WINES's big brother CrossOver: https://www.codeweavers.com/ can fill the bill. I have never run CrossOver as WINE tends to be good enough as it runs all my Microsoft and Adobe programs just fine...MS Access just works, though of course, it has to be installed, just like you would on a Windows box. 

I posted an article a week ago, about a developer, who having spent his career developing on a Windows platform decided on a whim to migrate to Linux. It took him a couple of days to get everything he needed up and running but now he is there: http://bit.ly/2eJKLsv

I would have limited the verbiage but you asked very complex questions and a yes or no response just doesn't suffice. If you need any further help post here and I am sure there will be plenty of experts and even myself, to help you.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>, "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: "Paul Hartland" <paul.hartland at googlemail.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 8:40:42 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Cross Posted - What to use to create a virtual machine with linux

To all,

I have always been a windows user, only ever dabbling with unix/linux for a
short while years back when on a C programming course.  However I hear more
and more about linux and would like to have a look especially as I am
thinking of starting my own business next year when I get some inheritence
come through, so would like to get used to both systems etc, I am also
currently teaching myself other languages such as C#, HTML/HTML5/CSS,
ASP.net and also topping up my VB.net knowledge....Then I plan on learning
PHP, Python, Ruby and R but anyway I am drifting off topic in my
dreamworld.....

So basically could anyone tell me the best way to create a virtual machine
(so many options on the web) and what version of linux is the best to work
with.

Many many thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Oct 30 14:48:54 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 13:48:54 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <e78b92ca-30dc-714e-3cac-c7398a2d74e0@earthlink.net>
References: <553853780.109383907.1476831501481.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca>
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Hi Peter:

Thanks for the info. That said, we did limp along with the Access MDB for years. I suppose Microsoft should have annouced they were supporting MySQL/Maria DB and PostgresDB and any number of NoSQLDBs but I guess the last thing they need, on Azure, are products that directly challenge their show piece, MS SQL. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 10:56:57 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox

On 10/30/2016 1:18, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> A question...
>
> You said the SQLite was not a good database and suggested that there was some serious problems with it. Of course there should be no expectation that it matches features of MySQL or MS SQL but if the product is faulty...I would like to know why and how?

Hi Jim,

Not that it's "not good", just that it's more suited to beginner and 
smaller database problems because it's a more limited implementation of 
ISO SQL specs than MSSQL, Oracle, MySQL, PostGres &c. It's not really 
even client-server. The sqlite site 
(http://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html) lists circumstances where you 
should use a more complete DB tool.

Some specific limits: loose data typing so dodgy data integrity, very 
limited ALTER TABLE, limitations in transaction blocking, query engine 
limits (no right join, complex queries get problematic), loosy-goosy 
aggregation can elicit wrong results with no warning, no GRANT or 
REVOKE, Views are read-only.

> I decided to take a closer look at the SQLite DB, when I discovered it as the BE to FF and when Microsoft announced they would be supporting its use on Azure. If the application is really crippled why would MS be boosting it?

SQLite has its place, as its market success indicates. Think Access.

PB

-----

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 5:53:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>
> On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>> The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but the maximum RowID
>> is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could do with "Conpact".
> No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with a
> rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead space---the
> diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no impact
> whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.
>
> PB
>
> ------
>
>> Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db cleanup.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
>>
>>> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's
>>> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little
>>> bloated when used by FF. (?)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM To:
>>> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>>>
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
>>> amazing?
>>>
>>> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
>>> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
>>> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
>>> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
>>> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
>>> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
>>> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
>>> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
>>> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
>>> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
>>>
>>> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
>>> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
>>> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
>>> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
>>> recommendations?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Jim
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 30 16:45:14 2016
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 16:45:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
In-Reply-To: <909947839.31045800.1477856934177.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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On 10/30/2016 14:48, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> Thanks for the info. That said, we did limp along with the Access MDB for years. I suppose Microsoft should have annouced they were supporting MySQL/Maria DB and PostgresDB and any number of NoSQLDBs but I guess the last thing they need, on Azure, are products that directly challenge their show piece, MS SQL. ;-)

Exactly.

PB

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 10:56:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>
> On 10/30/2016 1:18, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi Peter:
>>
>> A question...
>>
>> You said the SQLite was not a good database and suggested that there was some serious problems with it. Of course there should be no expectation that it matches features of MySQL or MS SQL but if the product is faulty...I would like to know why and how?
> Hi Jim,
>
> Not that it's "not good", just that it's more suited to beginner and
> smaller database problems because it's a more limited implementation of
> ISO SQL specs than MSSQL, Oracle, MySQL, PostGres &c. It's not really
> even client-server. The sqlite site
> (http://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html) lists circumstances where you
> should use a more complete DB tool.
>
> Some specific limits: loose data typing so dodgy data integrity, very
> limited ALTER TABLE, limitations in transaction blocking, query engine
> limits (no right join, complex queries get problematic), loosy-goosy
> aggregation can elicit wrong results with no warning, no GRANT or
> REVOKE, Views are read-only.
>
>> I decided to take a closer look at the SQLite DB, when I discovered it as the BE to FF and when Microsoft announced they would be supporting its use on Azure. If the application is really crippled why would MS be boosting it?
> SQLite has its place, as its market success indicates. Think Access.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 5:53:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>>
>> On 10/28/2016 18:50, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>>> The table in my  FF webappsstore.sqlite  database has 29798 rows but the maximum RowID
>>> is 74255, so it certainly looks as though it could do with "Conpact".
>> No no no, rowID is just an auto_increment value, a value of 74255 with a
>> rowcount of 29798 does /not/ mean there are 44k rows of dead space---the
>> diff between 74255 and 29798 is purely logical, it has no impact
>> whatever on physical disk usage or on performance.
>>
>> PB
>>
>> ------
>>
>>> Looks to me like poor  programming to not include periodic db cleanup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Oct 2016 at 10:31, John R Bartow wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few version ago Ccleaner added the option to compress Firefox's
>>>> database as part of it's cleanup routine. The db muct get a little
>>>> bloated when used by FF. (?)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:18 PM To:
>>>> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] FireFox
>>>>
>>>> Hi All:
>>>>
>>>> Does everyone already know this or is it just me, that the following
>>>> amazing?
>>>>
>>>> I have just discovered that FireFox is built on top of a series of
>>>> SQLite files. Every plugin, setting, history, download, cookie, visted
>>>> site, caches and bookmarks are all stored in these database files. All
>>>> tranaction date, size, duration, activity and location is stored in
>>>> the records. If you lose some information and wish to trace it just
>>>> dig through these files. Mind you, if you have been using your version
>>>> of FF for more than a couple weeks, the files are huge and date ranges
>>>> are the only way to find anything usable (50 pages of data is
>>>> useless)...spent hours last night trying to find details on a couple
>>>> of visited site (and was learning how SQLite works).
>>>>
>>>> I have not tried to use other SQLs to access the data as I suspect
>>>> SQLite has it own data encoding. I was working at the command prompt
>>>> for quite a while before I downloaded a GUI. Has anyone else had
>>>> experience with SQLite? If you have do you have any comments or
>>>> recommendations?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Oct 30 16:32:13 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:32:13 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <58150215.29289.39F0B451@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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Hi Stuart:

That's the problem. There are three very distinct devices, in the market today, that have to be supported. The dream of unified responsive design that works on all computers is just that, a dream. OTOH, no one wants to have to spend the appropriate amount of time and money on each website for each device type. 

The fastest growing devices are cell phones and therefore they get most of the love. I do not know how long it will take before a solution is found or those who want a good universal website solution are willing to anti-up but I would suspect...years. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 1:09:57 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Aaaaah, we've been rickrolled!    ;)

Yep, a classic example of "same old f******* Bootstrap site".


On 29 Oct 2016 at 14:36, Martin Reid wrote:

> What do you think of this. I don't like it
> 
> Www.qub.ac.uk
> 
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
> Sent: 29/10/2016 15:32
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software
> issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech]
> Easy to use CMS
> 
> I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often
> another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful
> transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can
> navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of
> dancing baloney.
> 
> TNF
> 
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
> 
> On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> > Hi Stuart
> >
> > Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my
> > favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless
> > scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for
> > pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
> >
> > I'll certainly keep that link.
> >
> > Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys
> > behind this app):
> >
> >      http://hellomind.com
> >
> > And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser?
> > Don't.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P?
> > vegne af Stuart McLachlan Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16 Til:
> > Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
> >
> > Aargh!
> >
> > Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another
> > bloody Bootstrap site!"
> >
> > http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
> >> system). https://getgrav.org/
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Oct 30 16:48:00 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:48:00 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
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That site is pretty standard fare, for a Postcard type site. Works everywhere, is a challenge to no browser, says little or nothing, easy to read even to those with limited English language skills and is easy to update. Checks all the boxes but is boaring.  

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Reid" <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:34:02 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Oct 31 09:26:32 2016
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 07:26:32 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Story Behind Hacking the Jeep
Message-ID: <008001d23382$c777fbe0$5667f3a0$@bchacc.com>

http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1386
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.dn14.edt.aud.dn.20161031.tst004t>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 31 11:44:38 2016
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 16:44:38 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
Message-ID: <DB6PR0601MB2198E90AE7B26F48FD250E2ECAAE0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

I found out why WiFi analyzers were so hard to find:

<quote>
This isn't possible unless you hunt down Joe Belfiore, throw him out of his yacht, and hit him over the head with NativeWifi until it's in there.

The functionality isn't available in the Windows Phone API.
If it were, the app would already be in Store.
</quote>

However, in Windows 10 Mobile it is. And a shiny app is out there - WiFi Commander 3D:

    http://wificommander.com/

As a Windows 10 Universal App, it also runs on the desktop (laptop). The purchase is only $5.

I rushed to get it from the Store to run on my old service laptop. It doesn't receive the 5 GHz band, but the 3D view is amazing.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 20:56
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

Unfortunately, we have no competition here or more accurately all the players only competed on making the rates exactly the same. The last time there was a challenge to their authority, multiple millions were spent on shutting the opponent down. The best Canadian phone company, Ting, had to move to the the states where they are giving exceptional service to boys and girl below the 49th parallel...their head-quarters is still in Toronto.

We here can only dream of such rates and service.

About the analyzer, when in business it was so useful (traditionally server rooms would have very bad connection but not always and not always all over the room(s)) and here when there is multiple competing open hot-spots, the app is useful, for checking which is the most stable and has the best signal...or even if there is a strong enough signal. When in a large building, for example, signal strength can be checked, at various locations, in real-time when expecting a call or making one. I can not imagine that Microsoft does not have a third-party that would provide one... 

There are a number of Open Source analyzers out there...mostly built in "C". How much difficulty would it take to convert such a app to run on Window cell phone addition? Example: https://github.com/luigino/linssid/find/master but there are many more.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

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Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Ed Tesiny
Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk. 


From df.waters at outlook.com  Mon Oct 31 12:07:57 2016
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 17:07:57 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0601MB2198E90AE7B26F48FD250E2ECAAE0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB2198E90AE7B26F48FD250E2ECAAE0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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I just bought this - it's available for PC, Mobile, and for this first time I've seen this - Windows Holographic!  There is a symbol of a person's head wearing VR headpiece.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:45 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

I found out why WiFi analyzers were so hard to find:

<quote>
This isn't possible unless you hunt down Joe Belfiore, throw him out of his yacht, and hit him over the head with NativeWifi until it's in there.

The functionality isn't available in the Windows Phone API.
If it were, the app would already be in Store.
</quote>

However, in Windows 10 Mobile it is. And a shiny app is out there - WiFi Commander 3D:

    http://wificommander.com/

As a Windows 10 Universal App, it also runs on the desktop (laptop). The purchase is only $5.

I rushed to get it from the Store to run on my old service laptop. It doesn't receive the 5 GHz band, but the 3D view is amazing.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

Unfortunately, we have no competition here or more accurately all the players only competed on making the rates exactly the same. The last time there was a challenge to their authority, multiple millions were spent on shutting the opponent down. The best Canadian phone company, Ting, had to move to the the states where they are giving exceptional service to boys and girl below the 49th parallel...their head-quarters is still in Toronto.

We here can only dream of such rates and service.

About the analyzer, when in business it was so useful (traditionally server rooms would have very bad connection but not always and not always all over the room(s)) and here when there is multiple competing open hot-spots, the app is useful, for checking which is the most stable and has the best signal...or even if there is a strong enough signal. When in a large building, for example, signal strength can be checked, at various locations, in real-time when expecting a call or making one. I can not imagine that Microsoft does not have a third-party that would provide one... 

There are a number of Open Source analyzers out there...mostly built in "C". How much difficulty would it take to convert such a app to run on Window cell phone addition? Example: https://github.com/luigino/linssid/find/master but there are many more.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 31 14:25:44 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:25:44 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
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Hi Gustav:

Thanks for the research. I can not imagine how a tech who does lots of onsite work could do without this tool. You will have to tell me how it works for you so it can be the first app installed on a new phone. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 9:44:38 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

I found out why WiFi analyzers were so hard to find:

<quote>
This isn't possible unless you hunt down Joe Belfiore, throw him out of his yacht, and hit him over the head with NativeWifi until it's in there.

The functionality isn't available in the Windows Phone API.
If it were, the app would already be in Store.
</quote>

However, in Windows 10 Mobile it is. And a shiny app is out there - WiFi Commander 3D:

    http://wificommander.com/

As a Windows 10 Universal App, it also runs on the desktop (laptop). The purchase is only $5.

I rushed to get it from the Store to run on my old service laptop. It doesn't receive the 5 GHz band, but the 3D view is amazing.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 20:56
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

Unfortunately, we have no competition here or more accurately all the players only competed on making the rates exactly the same. The last time there was a challenge to their authority, multiple millions were spent on shutting the opponent down. The best Canadian phone company, Ting, had to move to the the states where they are giving exceptional service to boys and girl below the 49th parallel...their head-quarters is still in Toronto.

We here can only dream of such rates and service.

About the analyzer, when in business it was so useful (traditionally server rooms would have very bad connection but not always and not always all over the room(s)) and here when there is multiple competing open hot-spots, the app is useful, for checking which is the most stable and has the best signal...or even if there is a strong enough signal. When in a large building, for example, signal strength can be checked, at various locations, in real-time when expecting a call or making one. I can not imagine that Microsoft does not have a third-party that would provide one... 

There are a number of Open Source analyzers out there...mostly built in "C". How much difficulty would it take to convert such a app to run on Window cell phone addition? Example: https://github.com/luigino/linssid/find/master but there are many more.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:09
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk. 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 31 14:43:33 2016
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:43:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone
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Hi Dan:

Just tested a one line script at the command prompt and it neatly displays all the channel's specs:

sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning | egrep 'Cell |Encryption|Quality|Last beacon|ESSID'

The feature are built right into the OS. All it would take is someone verse in some GUI language and voila a full PC app.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 10:07:57 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

I just bought this - it's available for PC, Mobile, and for this first time I've seen this - Windows Holographic!  There is a symbol of a person's head wearing VR headpiece.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:45 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

I found out why WiFi analyzers were so hard to find:

<quote>
This isn't possible unless you hunt down Joe Belfiore, throw him out of his yacht, and hit him over the head with NativeWifi until it's in there.

The functionality isn't available in the Windows Phone API.
If it were, the app would already be in Store.
</quote>

However, in Windows 10 Mobile it is. And a shiny app is out there - WiFi Commander 3D:

    http://wificommander.com/

As a Windows 10 Universal App, it also runs on the desktop (laptop). The purchase is only $5.

I rushed to get it from the Store to run on my old service laptop. It doesn't receive the 5 GHz band, but the 3D view is amazing.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 20:56
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

Unfortunately, we have no competition here or more accurately all the players only competed on making the rates exactly the same. The last time there was a challenge to their authority, multiple millions were spent on shutting the opponent down. The best Canadian phone company, Ting, had to move to the the states where they are giving exceptional service to boys and girl below the 49th parallel...their head-quarters is still in Toronto.

We here can only dream of such rates and service.

About the analyzer, when in business it was so useful (traditionally server rooms would have very bad connection but not always and not always all over the room(s)) and here when there is multiple competing open hot-spots, the app is useful, for checking which is the most stable and has the best signal...or even if there is a strong enough signal. When in a large building, for example, signal strength can be checked, at various locations, in real-time when expecting a call or making one. I can not imagine that Microsoft does not have a third-party that would provide one... 

There are a number of Open Source analyzers out there...mostly built in "C". How much difficulty would it take to convert such a app to run on Window cell phone addition? Example: https://github.com/luigino/linssid/find/master but there are many more.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Competition is very hard here. We pay only the equivalent of USD 15 pr. month including enough free domestic talk for our need and 20 GB data.
A data-only subscription for 200 GB can be obtained for USD 37 per month. That we use at home where coverage is very well with a speed of 70/40 Mbit/s.

As said, a true Wi-Fi analyzer I cannot find.

But open hotspots, the phone will find natively and automatically - can be switched on and off as you like.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:09
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of going off topic, we here has a series of sometime competing duopolies. They basically set their own rates and agenda without any enforced government regulations. Canada is perhaps the worst. This year, it was discovered, that in all the world Japan, had higher rates but only by one dollar. The US at least has competition; their best rate is approx $24 per month, ours is over a hundred (for similar features).

That said most WiFi resellar lock their phones to restrict access to specific formats/networks/locations, lock-in customers to the contract, guaranteeing themselves a fixed price, regardless, of a contract duration or disruption. 

The first thing most people do when they get their new phones is jail-break it. If you could see the picture quality on my current model you would no longer wonder what the fuss is about. Of course a real camera is always far superior if taking picture is all that is needed. I would just like a camera good enough to have crisp pictures/movie at impromptude times.

Does the Nokia/Windows phone has an astronomy app? The WiFi analyzer is extremely useful. When I was working full-time, more often that not I would immediatly check the WiFi access points, for status and performance. Now a days, when out, I may check the local hotspots and check whether secure of not before attempting connection.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Most phones here are unlocked - locking phones was left years ago. Can't tell for the US.
As far as I know, my 925 will work anywhere, but this may be specific to European and/or US model variants.

Also, the Lumia models come with the superior HERE maps (from Nokia), and they are known for their good cameras, though I must say I've never understood the fuzz about cameras in phones - if you are serious about photography, you can't live with the single wide-angle built-in lens of a phone, so buy a camera with exchangeable lens or a high-quality zoom lens.

The WiFi analyzer may be difficult to locate.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 23:51
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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Gustav:

I am looking for a new phone as my cell phone is so old. OTOH, I do not need many features or applications.

Phoning and messaging are my most common tasks. I would like a phone that can call from anywhere, in the world, does not have to be unlocked and reset...so far the only phone, I know of, that matching that criteria is the Nexus. I need a note pad for notes, a reader app for ebooks, links to a number of news sources, check gmail occasionally, access to the internet very occasionally, a good skymap, a locator is always needed, especially when travelling, calculator/calender, a WiFi analyzer, only game played is Sudoku and then a nice camera would be the icing on the cake but I have a very good camera for serious work.

We would like to get two phones again and plan to dump our landline.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Jim

Yes, it is good. Rock stable and with the super clean Metro/Modern interface optimized for touch use. No tracking by Google of all my behaviours, no virus - and the hit: wireless charging.
It's a time saver too, because most of the stupid apps you may feel tempted to check out are not available, while all the serious apps I need are easily found. Add to this a very competitive price level that sets the competition back.

Also, don't forget that the current models run a true OS, Windows 10, which makes room for rethinking computing, for example the amazing HP Elite X3:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&eSpotName=Elite-x3

/gustav
________________________________________
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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 21:04:12
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Good one Gustav, Ha ha ha. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:53:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Hi Arthur

Or get a Windows Phone.

/gustav

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Sendt: 26. oktober 2016 13:19
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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Why I just destroyed my cell phone

Arthur, nevertheless they do come in useful when away from your land line.
Load Avast Mobile Security and you can block calling numbers in seconds.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com>
wrote:

> They are way too easily hacked, and even though you would have to know 
> a lot about mathematics to guess mine, there are bots that can be 
> purchased for an insignificant sum and then employed on an army of 
> easily-compromised phones, and also tablets. Desktops are better 
> protected, but even these are at serious risk.

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Oct 29 12:57:52 2016
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 17:57:52 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082572C@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219814B382A8D22EA78692E8CAAD0@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<56bb9ac8-3c8c-acdf-cc06-7f1437c05fc2@torchlake.com>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082552D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004201d23207$22864370$6792ca50$@bchacc.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0825691@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA08256DE@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<004901d2320c$588fa150$09aee3f0$@bchacc.com>,
	<976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082572C@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA082575D@EX2K10-MBX6.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky

Your famous. His response below

"Interesting!!
A lot of this feedback we as in IS/cms have told them!
Some really good stuff here and I will feed back in.

Cheer
David"

Martin

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From: Martin Reid<mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:55
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Hope you don't mind but I sent your comments to our head of web dev. As a first time user you picked up a lot from the site.

Martin


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From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:47
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Got it - sales and marketing...

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:38 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky post grad is where the money is particularly international pgs. It one of our major targets.

Martin

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From: Martin Reid<mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:34
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Rocky

Spot on I am impressed it was

Martin

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From: Rocky Smolin<mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 18:10
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

Beautiful site graphics. Very crisp and professional.  But practical? Functional?  Looks like it was designed by the marketing department.

Long scroll through the home page (why is post-grad at the top of the page?).  Looks like advertising, not information. If I wanted to know something specific about QUB I think it would be hard to find.  And there's no site map link at the bottom which would make it possible for someone who needs info and is not interested in the pictures of happy people at QUB to find what they need.

And the scrolling thing below latest news - I would be interested to see how many clicks its getting.  It scrolls too fast.  And anyway, I am probably not going to the site to get Latest News.


R

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:37 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

What do you think of this. I don't like it

Www.qub.ac.uk

Martin

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From: Tina Norris Fields<mailto:tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2016 15:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS

I am so glad to see that I am not alone in the world! Every so often another website that I regularly visit goes through this same awful transformation. Truly, I dislike it intensely. Give me a site I can navigate easily, make it logical, and don't plague me with tons of dancing baloney.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 10/28/16 2:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Stuart
>
> Oh, you made my day - I'm so glad you put words on one of my favourite aversions. The never ending fade-inns and the endless scrolling is so frustrating, and often text is way too large for pleasant viewing and reading on a desktop.
>
> I'll certainly keep that link.
>
> Here's another hilarious example (disclaimer: Sorry, I know the guys behind this app):
>
>      http://hellomind.com
>
> And did you try opening https://getgrav.org/ in a phone browser? Don't.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne
> af Stuart McLachlan
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2016 00:16
> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Easy to use CMS
>
> Aargh!
>
> Went to that website and my immediate thought was " Oh no! Another bloody Bootstrap site!"
>
> http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
>
>
>
> On 27 Oct 2016 at 10:56, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Here is a simple to use web-builder and CMS (content management
>> system). https://getgrav.org/
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