From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  1 14:11:04 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 13:11:04 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
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Hi Peter:

I will see what I can do. It will take a few days as my current micro SD reader/writer is misbehaving. ;-)

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:02:25 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations

On 3/31/2017 19:04, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Fred and Rocky:
>
> The price per VPN, is between $30 and $60 per year.
>
> Here is one of the most popular VPN service providers: https://nordvpn.com/
>
> I also use SSH, related tools and a package like OpenVPN to connect with friends and businesses I deal with on a regular bases. My mutual fund adviser sends all my updates through a SSH mail service. The banks similar and now my doctor is extending an encrypted service to his clients which he has been using for a few years to communicate with his fellow physicians. With the help of my SiL, we just ran up a new version of NextCloud so our family could transfer pictures of the families back and forth without having to access some public Cloud.
>
> My SiL has completed a system which allows all the family members, who have web sites, to upload to a private Git, which automatically compiles the updated site into a Container, then exports the Container, to my Apache server. This means that someone may be able to hack into the website, but changes possible will be minimal, actual specs will be obscured and "island-hopping" is impossible as each site is completely isolated. (The whole system runs on a Raspberry Pi). I should get and post the scripts used to create the infrastructure...that of course is, if anyone is interested.

I'm interested, I'd appreciate it very much.

PB
>
> I think in the near future this may become the way of using the internet. I don't think it paranoid, it is just like wearing a seat-belt or pulling the blinds when dressing as no one needs or wants to see that. ;-)
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Hooper" <fahooper at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:57:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>
> A VPN is an "encrypted tunnel" between two points. Your local end is
> software either on a computer (PC or phone) or on a router. The "exit
> node" is a computer elsewhere in the world. In between your connection
> is noise. When your connection leaves the VPN it becomes visible --
> generally, you can choose where this is. I usually use New York,
> assuming I'll be lost in the clutter.
>
> That exit node has to be provided and maintained by someone, which is
> why there's a charge for a VPN. The faster the connection the more
> robust (and expensive) that node has to be.
>
> A router with active VPN software encrypts everything going though it
> without the user taking any actions; that's as close to turnkey as it
> gets -- but you'll have to buy a router that's already prepared to make
> it turnkey. Note that this only protects you when you're working through
> the router. If you're at Starbucks you're not protected unless you've
> installed and use VPN software; this will come with a VPN subscription.
>
> Fred
>> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:57 AM
>> ", you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes," What does
>> that
>> mean? Is there a 'turnkey
>> Solution for folks like me who don't know anything about VPN and don't
>> really want to?
>>
>> R
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>> Fred Hooper
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>>
>> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN (who
>> provide free software for some routers) and followed their link to
>> FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of course,
>> you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these vary in
>> price, speed and reliability.
>>
>> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I quickly
>> get annoyed.
>>
>> Best,
>> Fred
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> Fred Hooper <mailto:fahooper at gmail.com>
>> Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:29 AM
>> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN
>> (who provide free software for some routers) and followed their link
>> to FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of
>> course, you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these
>> vary in price, speed and reliability.
>>
>> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I
>> quickly get annoyed.
>>
>> Best,
>> Fred
>>
>> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:04 PM
>> List(s):
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with
>> stuff on
>> the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, foolproof,
>> doesn't
>> require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, etc. I want transparent,
>> intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning curve, and then disappears
>> into the background and doesn't bother me every 3 hours for some problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there such a thing?
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> R
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Apr  1 14:51:05 2017
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 14:51:05 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <479504722.44665279.1491073864221.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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	<58DCEC1A.7050007@gmail.com>
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	<58DD633C.9000907@gmail.com>
	<2090766173.42622156.1491005059432.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5316244e-212b-b07e-233a-6ccb9aa617cf@earthlink.net>
	<479504722.44665279.1491073864221.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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On 4/1/2017 14:11, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Peter:
>
> I will see what I can do. It will take a few days as my current micro SD reader/writer is misbehaving. ;-)

Many thanks.

PB

-----

>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:02:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>
> On 3/31/2017 19:04, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Fred and Rocky:
>>
>> The price per VPN, is between $30 and $60 per year.
>>
>> Here is one of the most popular VPN service providers: https://nordvpn.com/
>>
>> I also use SSH, related tools and a package like OpenVPN to connect with friends and businesses I deal with on a regular bases. My mutual fund adviser sends all my updates through a SSH mail service. The banks similar and now my doctor is extending an encrypted service to his clients which he has been using for a few years to communicate with his fellow physicians. With the help of my SiL, we just ran up a new version of NextCloud so our family could transfer pictures of the families back and forth without having to access some public Cloud.
>>
>> My SiL has completed a system which allows all the family members, who have web sites, to upload to a private Git, which automatically compiles the updated site into a Container, then exports the Container, to my Apache server. This means that someone may be able to hack into the website, but changes possible will be minimal, actual specs will be obscured and "island-hopping" is impossible as each site is completely isolated. (The whole system runs on a Raspberry Pi). I should get and post the scripts used to create the infrastructure...that of course is, if anyone is interested.
> I'm interested, I'd appreciate it very much.
>
> PB
>> I think in the near future this may become the way of using the internet. I don't think it paranoid, it is just like wearing a seat-belt or pulling the blinds when dressing as no one needs or wants to see that. ;-)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fred Hooper" <fahooper at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:57:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>>
>> A VPN is an "encrypted tunnel" between two points. Your local end is
>> software either on a computer (PC or phone) or on a router. The "exit
>> node" is a computer elsewhere in the world. In between your connection
>> is noise. When your connection leaves the VPN it becomes visible --
>> generally, you can choose where this is. I usually use New York,
>> assuming I'll be lost in the clutter.
>>
>> That exit node has to be provided and maintained by someone, which is
>> why there's a charge for a VPN. The faster the connection the more
>> robust (and expensive) that node has to be.
>>
>> A router with active VPN software encrypts everything going though it
>> without the user taking any actions; that's as close to turnkey as it
>> gets -- but you'll have to buy a router that's already prepared to make
>> it turnkey. Note that this only protects you when you're working through
>> the router. If you're at Starbucks you're not protected unless you've
>> installed and use VPN software; this will come with a VPN subscription.
>>
>> Fred
>>> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:57 AM
>>> ", you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes," What does
>>> that
>>> mean? Is there a 'turnkey
>>> Solution for folks like me who don't know anything about VPN and don't
>>> really want to?
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Fred Hooper
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>>>
>>> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN (who
>>> provide free software for some routers) and followed their link to
>>> FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of course,
>>> you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these vary in
>>> price, speed and reliability.
>>>
>>> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I quickly
>>> get annoyed.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>> Fred Hooper <mailto:fahooper at gmail.com>
>>> Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:29 AM
>>> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN
>>> (who provide free software for some routers) and followed their link
>>> to FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of
>>> course, you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these
>>> vary in price, speed and reliability.
>>>
>>> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I
>>> quickly get annoyed.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:04 PM
>>> List(s):
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with
>>> stuff on
>>> the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, foolproof,
>>> doesn't
>>> require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, etc. I want transparent,
>>> intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning curve, and then disappears
>>> into the background and doesn't bother me every 3 hours for some problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr  2 12:58:07 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 11:58:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Robot control systems?
In-Reply-To: <1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1485374635.27194082.1487883924393.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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	<1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1992848339.46534524.1491155887593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

For all who are interested in a tiny computer system for controlling multiple servos, motors, LEDs and buttons, here is a link to a product called the BeagleBone Blue at https://beagleboard.org/blue. Build your own robot. ;-)

There is a host of applications and custom OS designs available. I am not sure of the exact price but it is somewhere around $80.

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  3 10:27:15 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:27:15 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Language proficientcy
In-Reply-To: <1992848339.46534524.1491155887593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1992848339.46534524.1491155887593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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Reading this article from TechRepublic seems very interesting particularly that the list of disciplines that fall into the categories as top paying languages are unfamiliar, at least to me...except maybe Ruby.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-programming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404143049206844906147
http://tek.io/2nSQB0t

Has anyone here used any of the languages listed? What technology uses these languages? Do we have any techs with a good knowledge of GO?

Jim


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Apr  3 10:49:23 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 08:49:23 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Most Annoying Internet Thing EVER
Message-ID: <03ac01d2ac91$ddc1b2a0$994517e0$@bchacc.com>

Of course we all get notices to update Adobe Flash Player.  But why do they
update it 4 times a week?  I just ignore the notices.

 

Or used to.

 

Lately every time a page needs Flash the browser reminds me and asks if I
want to Allow or Allow and Remember.  But it's only for that page.  So
that's turning out to be more annoying than the continuous badgering from
Adobe to update.

 

Is there perhaps a way in Firefox to stop that and just let the outdated
(meaning apparently over 36 hours old) player do its thing?

 

TIA

 

Rocky

 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  3 10:50:18 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:50:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] TortoiseSVN/Git
In-Reply-To: <1992848339.46534524.1491155887593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1992848339.46534524.1491155887593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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Hi All:

Years ago, in a couple of projects we used TortoiseSVN as the network collaborative project manager but today there is TortoiseGit as an internet project manager.

My daughter, in Montreal, has been trying to get the package to connect to a Git repository but are having issues. At the moment I am not sure of all the details but plan to run up a copy on a Windows10 box and try to see what possible problems there could be. It should be simple, right? Has anyone here had some experience with TortoiseGit?

MTIA
Jim 

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Apr  3 17:30:46 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:30:46 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW:  Language proficiency
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References: <03ab01d2ac90$fd2b30e0$f78192a0$@bchacc.com>
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Message-ID: <008401d2acc9$f08ecca0$d1ac65e0$@bchacc.com>

Jim:

 

Noah knows GO and would be happy to answer any questions he knows the answer to. J

 

Rocky

 

 

From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 2:33 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Language proficiency

 

Ssssure, with the caveat that while I've used the language quite a bit, I'm by no means an expert. I'd be happy to help, though. 

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 14:19 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

Would you be willing to take questions from the tech list?

 

From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 12:27 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Language proficiency

 

Ehh, 2-3. 

 

I do use Go, though. 

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 08:43 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

1, 2, 3 - although I'm guessing 2

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 8:27 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Language proficientcy

Reading this article from TechRepublic seems very interesting particularly
that the list of disciplines that fall into the categories as top paying
languages are unfamiliar, at least to me...except maybe Ruby.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-progra <http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-programming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404> 
mming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404
143049206844906147
http://tek.io/2nSQB0t

Has anyone here used any of the languages listed? What technology uses these
languages? Do we have any techs with a good knowledge of GO?

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  4 13:16:06 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 12:16:06 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apple finally upgrades their FS
In-Reply-To: <1992848339.46534524.1491155887593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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Message-ID: <962609592.51995817.1491329766497.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

It took from 1985 to today for Apple to upgrade their File System. Thirty-two years to finally an upgrade. In computer terms that is over 300 years. 

This is the reason why the Mac could never be used as a server; some tried but the networks always failed. Our local newspaper built a full system on Apples and ended losing around a hundred and fifty years of archival data. You think that Apple would logically choose ZFS as their core OS is FreeBSD but they designed and built something else(?) called APFS.

Here is a link to the first installment of a deep-dive series of articles on the FS by renowned Apple and ZFS expert, Adam Leventhal:

http://dtrace.org/blogs/ahl/2016/06/19/apfs-part1/

Jim

From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Apr  4 13:20:07 2017
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 18:20:07 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apple finally upgrades their FS
In-Reply-To: <962609592.51995817.1491329766497.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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	<1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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	<962609592.51995817.1491329766497.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA08C3FBA@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Apple wants nothing that they don't own.

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
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Sent: ?04/?04/?2017 19:16
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] Apple finally upgrades their FS

It took from 1985 to today for Apple to upgrade their File System. Thirty-two years to finally an upgrade. In computer terms that is over 300 years.

This is the reason why the Mac could never be used as a server; some tried but the networks always failed. Our local newspaper built a full system on Apples and ended losing around a hundred and fifty years of archival data. You think that Apple would logically choose ZFS as their core OS is FreeBSD but they designed and built something else(?) called APFS.

Here is a link to the first installment of a deep-dive series of articles on the FS by renowned Apple and ZFS expert, Adam Leventhal:

http://dtrace.org/blogs/ahl/2016/06/19/apfs-part1/

Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  4 13:53:29 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 12:53:29 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] TortiousGit on Windows
In-Reply-To: <1992848339.46534524.1491155887593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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Hi All:

I had been having some issues getting TortiousGit client running on my Windows 10 box and my daughter was having a problem as well. It turns out that by initiating a remote Git or Github server as a new connection, more than once causes an addition SSH key to be generated. The client now uses the latest key when trying to access the remote server and it always fails. The solution was simple, navigate to the SSH directory and edit the appropriate key file as a admin/root users and delete the extra key...and then remember to reconnect to your remote server using an existing connection and not a new connection option.

Along the way I discovered that by downloading and installing Git server for Windows it will give you a local Git server:

https://git-for-windows.github.io/

The beauty is that this server comes in both 32 and 64 bit and as an added bonus gives you a full bash shell. Note; that the official Windows bash shell only comes in 64bit.

Jim



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  4 14:02:40 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 13:02:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Nextcloud
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Hi All:

I have been playing with the latest version of NextCloud 11 and notices a new feature that has been added. A video and audio, communication center similar to the one on Goggle-hangouts.

https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-11-sets-new-standard-for-security-and-scalability/
http://bit.ly/2oWGJQZ

"Technology Preview of Spreed integration

Nextcloud 11 brings Spreed audio and video chat integrated in the user interface. The Spreed allows you to invite any of your friends and colleagues on your Nextcloud server for a call and also allows sending a public link to people who don?t have an account yet. Users will get a notification if they are receiving a call. Up to six users can join a conversation."

The next big step will be to find out if it will run off a Raspberry PI3 server. ;-)

Jim  


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  4 21:13:15 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 20:13:15 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW:  Language proficiency
In-Reply-To: <008401d2acc9$f08ecca0$d1ac65e0$@bchacc.com>
References: <03ab01d2ac90$fd2b30e0$f78192a0$@bchacc.com>
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Thanks Rocky, but OTOH, I am retired and would only indulge for fun. All of us in our age(ing) group don't have to know.

There appears to be a clear wall between us and our children. Not only do they think differently but they write in different languages. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 3:30:46 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW:  Language proficiency

Jim:

 

Noah knows GO and would be happy to answer any questions he knows the answer to. J

 

Rocky

 

 

From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 2:33 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Language proficiency

 

Ssssure, with the caveat that while I've used the language quite a bit, I'm by no means an expert. I'd be happy to help, though. 

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 14:19 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

Would you be willing to take questions from the tech list?

 

From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 12:27 PM
To: Rocky Smolin
Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Language proficiency

 

Ehh, 2-3. 

 

I do use Go, though. 

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 08:43 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

1, 2, 3 - although I'm guessing 2

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 8:27 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Language proficientcy

Reading this article from TechRepublic seems very interesting particularly
that the list of disciplines that fall into the categories as top paying
languages are unfamiliar, at least to me...except maybe Ruby.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-progra <http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-programming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404> 
mming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404
143049206844906147
http://tek.io/2nSQB0t

Has anyone here used any of the languages listed? What technology uses these
languages? Do we have any techs with a good knowledge of GO?

Jim

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Wed Apr  5 09:46:30 2017
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:46:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW: Language proficiency
In-Reply-To: <1310161440.53159579.1491358395331.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
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	<CAJ7X+bjyMFXx=ANQ+gLX2ZC58TZyp0WtwwDbm3ZdF0jM+E7r6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<004201d2acbf$edb5eea0$c921cbe0$@bchacc.com>
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Jim, that surprises me. I thought you were a lifetime learner - like me.

T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 04/04/17 10:13 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Thanks Rocky, but OTOH, I am retired and would only indulge for fun. All of us in our age(ing) group don't have to know.
>
> There appears to be a clear wall between us and our children. Not only do they think differently but they write in different languages.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 3:30:46 PM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW:  Language proficiency
>
> Jim:
>
>   
>
> Noah knows GO and would be happy to answer any questions he knows the answer to. J
>
>   
>
> Rocky
>
>   
>
>   
>
> From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: Rocky Smolin
> Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Language proficiency
>
>   
>
> Ssssure, with the caveat that while I've used the language quite a bit, I'm by no means an expert. I'd be happy to help, though.
>
>   
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 14:19 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
>
> Would you be willing to take questions from the tech list?
>
>   
>
> From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 12:27 PM
> To: Rocky Smolin
> Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Language proficiency
>
>   
>
> Ehh, 2-3.
>
>   
>
> I do use Go, though.
>
>   
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 08:43 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
>
> 1, 2, 3 - although I'm guessing 2
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 8:27 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Language proficientcy
>
> Reading this article from TechRepublic seems very interesting particularly
> that the list of disciplines that fall into the categories as top paying
> languages are unfamiliar, at least to me...except maybe Ruby.
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-progra <http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-programming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404>
> mming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404
> 143049206844906147
> http://tek.io/2nSQB0t
>
> Has anyone here used any of the languages listed? What technology uses these
> languages? Do we have any techs with a good knowledge of GO?
>
> Jim
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  5 15:59:28 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 14:59:28 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW: Language proficiency
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I am but I have also noticed that I learn slower or maybe it is that my entire future no longer depends on learning fast. Mind you, I have a pretty nice computer lab in the house and all the machines are littered with unproven tech. :-)

Check out the latest audio/visual streaming product that is built into NextCloud:

https://nextcloud.com/webrtc/ ...and... https://spreed.me/?fw (I am not sure whether this functions in a Windows environment but I think it is most likely browser based. I have been using Jitsi-Meet (https://meet.jit.si/) and have the package running on both my desktop and Android Smartphone.

Aside: Do you know that Windows has lost its crown as the most used Operating System...as if we didn't see that coming:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/03/statcounter-android-windows/
http://tcrn.ch/2nYXHPv

The amazing thing is not how fast Android and its Chrome books have captured the market but how fast Microsoft's huge lead has dropped. My kids and their significant others are what you might describe as average Millennials. All of them work on Linux (regardless of their PCs...they spend their lives working through terminals and remote GUI interfaces) and I suspect this is true of all tech sites and those of that age group. We are like Windows...slowly being replaced. :-( As for my using of Linux, it will not be as much fun if it is being used by everyone else....like those young punks and brats.

Jim  

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From: "Tina Norris Fields" <tinanfields at torchlake.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 7:46:30 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] FW: FW: Language proficiency

Jim, that surprises me. I thought you were a lifetime learner - like me.

T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 04/04/17 10:13 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Thanks Rocky, but OTOH, I am retired and would only indulge for fun. All of us in our age(ing) group don't have to know.
>
> There appears to be a clear wall between us and our children. Not only do they think differently but they write in different languages.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 3:30:46 PM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: FW:  Language proficiency
>
> Jim:
>
>   
>
> Noah knows GO and would be happy to answer any questions he knows the answer to. J
>
>   
>
> Rocky
>
>   
>
>   
>
> From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: Rocky Smolin
> Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Language proficiency
>
>   
>
> Ssssure, with the caveat that while I've used the language quite a bit, I'm by no means an expert. I'd be happy to help, though.
>
>   
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 14:19 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
>
> Would you be willing to take questions from the tech list?
>
>   
>
> From: Noah Sutton-Smolin [mailto:noahsutsmo at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 12:27 PM
> To: Rocky Smolin
> Subject: Re: FW: [dba-Tech] Language proficiency
>
>   
>
> Ehh, 2-3.
>
>   
>
> I do use Go, though.
>
>   
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 08:43 Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
>
> 1, 2, 3 - although I'm guessing 2
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 8:27 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Language proficientcy
>
> Reading this article from TechRepublic seems very interesting particularly
> that the list of disciplines that fall into the categories as top paying
> languages are unfamiliar, at least to me...except maybe Ruby.
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-progra <http://www.techrepublic.com/article/what-are-the-highest-paid-jobs-in-programming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404>
> mming-the-top-earning-languages-in-2017/?ftag=TREe09998f&bhid=22241243458404
> 143049206844906147
> http://tek.io/2nSQB0t
>
> Has anyone here used any of the languages listed? What technology uses these
> languages? Do we have any techs with a good knowledge of GO?
>
> Jim
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Apr  6 05:50:48 2017
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:50:48 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] =?utf-8?q?That=27s_what_=2ENET_Core_does_-_that=27s_fa?=
 =?utf-8?q?ntastic!_=3A=29?=
Message-ID: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>


Hi All --

What the 3+ minutes funny video on the referred below page (this topic title is from this video - this is no that I'm that excited :) ):
Video: Installing .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
https://www.microsoft.com/net/core#windowsvs2017 ?

MS is definitely changing their business model (to the better).

Have you got VS2017 already? It looks like its Professional Edition is free? Or just Community Edition? Do you know?

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????

From df.waters at outlook.com  Thu Apr  6 08:01:31 2017
From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:01:31 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)
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Hi Shamil,

The Pro version is $499 - for the stand-alone version.  The MSDN version costs more of course.

Community version is still free.  The Express version of VS will no longer be available beginning with VS 2017.  I didn't even know there was an Express version.

I'm using the Community version.  The Pro version (2015) doesn't have anything I want, but the Enterprise version (2015) can produce a picture showing the pathways of how code procedures are connected - which would sometimes be a great help!  But the Enterprise version costs $6000 - is that worth a picture?  Maybe someday ... :-)

Pricing is here:  https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/pricing/

All the best,
Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil via dba-Tech
Sent: April 6, 2017 05:51
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Cc: Salakhetdinov Shamil
Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)


Hi All --

What the 3+ minutes funny video on the referred below page (this topic title is from this video - this is no that I'm that excited :) ):
Video: Installing .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
https://www.microsoft.com/net/core#windowsvs2017 ?

MS is definitely changing their business model (to the better).

Have you got VS2017 already? It looks like its Professional Edition is free? Or just Community Edition? Do you know?

Thank you.

-- 
???????????? ??????
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Apr  6 10:39:49 2017
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 18:39:49 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] 
 =?utf-8?q?That=27s_what_=2ENET_Core_does_-_that=27s_f?=
 =?utf-8?q?antastic!_=3A=29?=
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR19MB0807BDEF54582E4AC88CCCBBF60D0@CO1PR19MB0807.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<CO1PR19MB0807BDEF54582E4AC88CCCBBF60D0@CO1PR19MB0807.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1491493189.967009934@f434.i.mail.ru>

Hi Dan --

Thank you, Community Edition (https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/community) should be good enough.

And yes, paying $6000 to see pathways of how code procedues are connected looks from here as a bit luxury extra feature ;)

-- Shamil

>Thursday, April  6, 2017 4:02 PM +03:00 from Dan Waters <df.waters at outlook.com>:
>
>Hi Shamil,
>
>The Pro version is $499 - for the stand-alone version.  The MSDN version costs more of course.
>
>Community version is still free.  The Express version of VS will no longer be available beginning with VS 2017.  I didn't even know there was an Express version.
>
>I'm using the Community version.  The Pro version (2015) doesn't have anything I want, but the Enterprise version (2015) can produce a picture showing the pathways of how code procedures are connected - which would sometimes be a great help!  But the Enterprise version costs $6000 - is that worth a picture?  Maybe someday ... :-)
>
>Pricing is here:  https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/pricing/
>
>All the best,
>Dan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil via dba-Tech
>Sent: April 6, 2017 05:51
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Cc: Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)
>
>
>Hi All --
>
>What the 3+ minutes funny video on the referred below page (this topic title is from this video - this is no that I'm that excited :) ):
>Video: Installing .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
>https://www.microsoft.com/net/core#windowsvs2017 ?
>
>MS is definitely changing their business model (to the better).
>
>Have you got VS2017 already? It looks like its Professional Edition is free? Or just Community Edition? Do you know?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
>_______________________________________________
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu Apr  6 11:13:28 2017
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 11:13:28 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft publishes what data Windows 10 is collecting
Message-ID: <0be701d2aef0$ba6b3d60$2f41b820$@winhaven.net>

Microsoft publishes what data Windows 10 is collecting:

https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/configure/windows-diagnostic-dat
a


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  6 11:33:33 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 10:33:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)
In-Reply-To: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <412436755.57419460.1491496413027.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

I have the core edition installed on a couple of my machines (Linux). I think it is only the community Windows edition wrapped in a shell. It is a very good editor considering the competition and price. ;-) I have been using my version for a couple of years now but maybe the new edition has a host of new features.

Jim 

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To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" ru>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:50:48 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)

Hi All --

What the 3+ minutes funny video on the referred below page (this topic title is from this video - this is no that I'm that excited :) ):
Video: Installing .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
https://www.microsoft.com/net/core#windowsvs2017  

MS is definitely changing their business model (to the better).

Have you got VS2017 already? It looks like its Professional Edition is free? Or just Community Edition? Do you know?

Thank you.

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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  6 13:36:42 2017
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:36:42 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Microsoft publishes what data Windows 10 is
 collecting
In-Reply-To: <0be701d2aef0$ba6b3d60$2f41b820$@winhaven.net>
References: <0be701d2aef0$ba6b3d60$2f41b820$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <f7164de0-4852-2986-78e0-122c948f9489@earthlink.net>

On 4/6/2017 11:13, John R Bartow wrote:
> Microsoft publishes what data Windows 10 is collecting:
>
> https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/configure/windows-diagnostic-dat
> a

IOW much of what we do in windows, luvly.

PB

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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Apr  6 18:30:42 2017
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 02:30:42 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] 
 =?utf-8?q?That=27s_what_=2ENET_Core_does_-_that=27s_f?=
 =?utf-8?q?antastic!_=3A=29?=
In-Reply-To: <412436755.57419460.1491496413027.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<412436755.57419460.1491496413027.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1491521442.797114461@f237.i.mail.ru>

Hi Jim et al --

I have just installed VS2017 Community Edition on a cloud VM and I have compiled a set of my customer solutions - all worked well. VS2017 on first glance seems to be working much better than VS2015.

For VS2017 I haven't installed the features to develop mobile apps and UWP apps ?- this part of setup weights about 30GB! 
And the setup to develop desktop apps, ASP.NET (Core) apps etc. is just about 7GB.


-- Shamil


>Thursday, April  6, 2017 7:34 PM +03:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I have the core edition installed on a couple of my machines (Linux). I think it is only the community Windows edition wrapped in a shell. It is a very good editor considering the competition and price. ;-) I have been using my version for a couple of years now but maybe the new edition has a host of new features.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>Cc: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" ru>
>Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:50:48 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)
>
>Hi All --
>
>What the 3+ minutes funny video on the referred below page (this topic title is from this video - this is no that I'm that excited :) ):
>Video: Installing .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
>https://www.microsoft.com/net/core#windowsvs2017
>
>MS is definitely changing their business model (to the better).
>
>Have you got VS2017 already? It looks like its Professional Edition is free? Or just Community Edition? Do you know?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  6 23:33:07 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 22:33:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)
In-Reply-To: <1491521442.797114461@f237.i.mail.ru>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<412436755.57419460.1491496413027.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1491521442.797114461@f237.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <730630616.59127400.1491539587762.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Shamil:

Excellent work. As to why the difference in size, I can not guess. There are whole operating systems, with a full GUI that are around 60MB...Isn't the professional version of Windows10, with all the bells and whistles and huge chunks of legacy code, only 50GB?

Are you using Azure or another Cloud? Will you be using Github (private or public) or a private Git?

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 4:30:42 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech]  That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)

Hi Jim et al --

I have just installed VS2017 Community Edition on a cloud VM and I have compiled a set of my customer solutions - all worked well. VS2017 on first glance seems to be working much better than VS2015.

For VS2017 I haven't installed the features to develop mobile apps and UWP apps ?- this part of setup weights about 30GB! 
And the setup to develop desktop apps, ASP.NET (Core) apps etc. is just about 7GB.


-- Shamil


>Thursday, April  6, 2017 7:34 PM +03:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>I have the core edition installed on a couple of my machines (Linux). I think it is only the community Windows edition wrapped in a shell. It is a very good editor considering the competition and price. ;-) I have been using my version for a couple of years now but maybe the new edition has a host of new features.
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>Cc: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" ru>
>Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:50:48 AM
>Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)
>
>Hi All --
>
>What the 3+ minutes funny video on the referred below page (this topic title is from this video - this is no that I'm that excited :) ):
>Video: Installing .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
>https://www.microsoft.com/net/core#windowsvs2017
>
>MS is definitely changing their business model (to the better).
>
>Have you got VS2017 already? It looks like its Professional Edition is free? Or just Community Edition? Do you know?
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>???????????? ??????
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Fri Apr  7 01:06:32 2017
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 09:06:32 +0300
Subject: [dba-Tech] 
 =?utf-8?q?That=27s_what_=2ENET_Core_does_-_that=27s_f?=
 =?utf-8?q?antastic!_=3A=29?=
In-Reply-To: <730630616.59127400.1491539587762.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<1491521442.797114461@f237.i.mail.ru>
	<730630616.59127400.1491539587762.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1491545192.2501523@f292.i.mail.ru>

Hi Jim --

For both VS2015 and VS2017 the setups of the features to develop mobile apps (WinPhone, iPhone/iPad(iOS), Android) are very heavy - around 30GB - they include smartphones emulators and a lot of other development tools stuff AFAIU.

I'm using this cloud provider -  https://invs.ru/en/ ? and for source control/archiving?I'm using ? https://bitbucket.org ??.

Shamil


>Friday, April  7, 2017 7:33 AM +03:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>
>Hi Shamil:
>
>Excellent work. As to why the difference in size, I can not guess. There are whole operating systems, with a full GUI that are around 60MB...Isn't the professional version of Windows10, with all the bells and whistles and huge chunks of legacy code, only 50GB?
>
>Are you using Azure or another Cloud? Will you be using Github (private or public) or a private Git?
>
>Jim 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Cc: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru >
>Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 4:30:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech]  That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)
>
>Hi Jim et al --
>
>I have just installed VS2017 Community Edition on a cloud VM and I have compiled a set of my customer solutions - all worked well. VS2017 on first glance seems to be working much better than VS2015.
>
>For VS2017 I haven't installed the features to develop mobile apps and UWP apps ?- this part of setup weights about 30GB! 
>And the setup to develop desktop apps, ASP.NET (Core) apps etc. is just about 7GB.
>
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
>>Thursday, April  6, 2017 7:34 PM +03:00 from Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>
>>Hi Shamil:
>>
>>I have the core edition installed on a couple of my machines (Linux). I think it is only the community Windows edition wrapped in a shell. It is a very good editor considering the competition and price. ;-) I have been using my version for a couple of years now but maybe the new edition has a host of new features.
>>
>>Jim 
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>>Cc: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" ru>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:50:48 AM
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] That's what .NET Core does - that's fantastic! :)
>>
>>Hi All --
>>
>>What the 3+ minutes funny video on the referred below page (this topic title is from this video - this is no that I'm that excited :) ):
>>Video: Installing .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
>> https://www.microsoft.com/net/core#windowsvs2017
>>
>>MS is definitely changing their business model (to the better).
>>
>>Have you got VS2017 already? It looks like its Professional Edition is free? Or just Community Edition? Do you know?
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- 
>>???????????? ??????
>>_______________________________________________
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 12 22:33:10 2017
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 22:33:10 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] making a bootable disk
Message-ID: <1ec8404e-0705-30ae-bd5d-203886497299@earthlink.net>

With pre-10 (or at least pre-8) Windows, it wasn't hard to make a 
bootable disk for recovery from hard disk crashes and the like. On this 
win10 laptop it's proved impossible. The Microsoft media Creation Tool 
for creating a bootable ISO image fails. Creating a recovery disk fails. 
Creating a repair disk fails.

All third-party tools I've found so far require an ISO image to make a 
bootable Win10 DVD or flash frive. Does anyone here know of a 3P tool 
that can do it? Or do I have to buy it?

I'm moving functionality to Linux as fast as I can to get free of too 
many Windows nightmares, but this win10 laptop needs to stay functional 
till that's complete. Anybody have a tip?

PB


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Apr 15 23:07:51 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:07:51 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Password
Message-ID: <006d01d2b667$054461e0$0fcd25a0$@bchacc.com>

I changed by password for my Microsoft account.  I was supposed to find that
he login password on my computer was changed to that new password.

 

Tonight I tried to change my login password but apparently my computer login
password is tied to my Microsoft account.

 

Am I not allowed to pick a password for my computer which is different from
my Microsoft account?  I don't want my login password to be in the cloud
somewhere.  I don't want it to be anywhere but in my head.  

 

Is this a privilege I lost when I upgraded to W10?"

 

Rocky

 


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 15 23:12:08 2017
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:12:08 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Password
In-Reply-To: <006d01d2b667$054461e0$0fcd25a0$@bchacc.com>
References: <006d01d2b667$054461e0$0fcd25a0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <c7607526-852a-eb79-44dd-08210e212a19@earthlink.net>

On 4/15/2017 23:07, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I changed by password for my Microsoft account.  I was supposed to find that
> he login password on my computer was changed to that new password.
>
>   
>
> Tonight I tried to change my login password but apparently my computer login
> password is tied to my Microsoft account.
>
>   
>
> Am I not allowed to pick a password for my computer which is different from
> my Microsoft account?  I don't want my login password to be in the cloud
> somewhere.  I don't want it to be anywhere but in my head.
>
>   
>
> Is this a privilege I lost when I upgraded to W10?"

Local pswd seems possible still:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-tip-switch-back-to-a-local-account-from-a-microsoft-account/

PB

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Apr 15 23:23:35 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:23:35 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Password
In-Reply-To: <c7607526-852a-eb79-44dd-08210e212a19@earthlink.net>
References: <006d01d2b667$054461e0$0fcd25a0$@bchacc.com>
	<c7607526-852a-eb79-44dd-08210e212a19@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001d2b669$3738b410$a5aa1c30$@bchacc.com>

Wow.  That was easy.  Thank you. 

I'm not one of those paranoids that suspects everyone is watching them.  But
I just didn't like the idea that MS could log into my box when they wanted
to.  I know there's no one interested in me enough to do that. But still...


Now, next question - why do I have to update Adobe Flash EVERY time I
restart my comp?  Is it because they're hoping that one time I'll forget to
uncheck installing McAffee? Or do they really have software that's so buggy
it needs updating 4 times a week?


Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Brawley
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:12 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Password

On 4/15/2017 23:07, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I changed by password for my Microsoft account.  I was supposed to 
> find that he login password on my computer was changed to that new
password.
>
>   
>
> Tonight I tried to change my login password but apparently my computer 
> login password is tied to my Microsoft account.
>
>   
>
> Am I not allowed to pick a password for my computer which is different 
> from my Microsoft account?  I don't want my login password to be in 
> the cloud somewhere.  I don't want it to be anywhere but in my head.
>
>   
>
> Is this a privilege I lost when I upgraded to W10?"

Local pswd seems possible still:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-tip-switch-back-to-a-local-account-f
rom-a-microsoft-account/

PB

-----

>
>   
>
> Rocky
>
>   
>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 16 00:24:25 2017
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 00:24:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Password
In-Reply-To: <000001d2b669$3738b410$a5aa1c30$@bchacc.com>
References: <006d01d2b667$054461e0$0fcd25a0$@bchacc.com>
	<c7607526-852a-eb79-44dd-08210e212a19@earthlink.net>
	<000001d2b669$3738b410$a5aa1c30$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <892b01b2-310b-394e-8784-50e65e53bc1f@earthlink.net>

On 4/15/2017 23:23, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Wow.  That was easy.  Thank you.
>
> I'm not one of those paranoids that suspects everyone is watching them.  But
> I just didn't like the idea that MS could log into my box when they wanted
> to.  I know there's no one interested in me enough to do that. But still...
>
>
> Now, next question - why do I have to update Adobe Flash EVERY time I
> restart my comp?  Is it because they're hoping that one time I'll forget to
> uncheck installing McAffee? Or do they really have software that's so buggy
> it needs updating 4 times a week?

option B :-)

PB

-----

>
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Brawley
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:12 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Password
>
> On 4/15/2017 23:07, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>> I changed by password for my Microsoft account.  I was supposed to
>> find that he login password on my computer was changed to that new
> password.
>>    
>>
>> Tonight I tried to change my login password but apparently my computer
>> login password is tied to my Microsoft account.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Am I not allowed to pick a password for my computer which is different
>> from my Microsoft account?  I don't want my login password to be in
>> the cloud somewhere.  I don't want it to be anywhere but in my head.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Is this a privilege I lost when I upgraded to W10?"
> Local pswd seems possible still:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-tip-switch-back-to-a-local-account-f
> rom-a-microsoft-account/
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>>    
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>    
>>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Apr 16 01:56:53 2017
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 06:56:53 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Password
In-Reply-To: <006d01d2b667$054461e0$0fcd25a0$@bchacc.com>
References: <006d01d2b667$054461e0$0fcd25a0$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1165CCC724FB726480C26681CA070@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rocky (and Peter)

You really should know that your password isn't stored anywhere except in your head - elsewhere it's a hash value of it only.

Novell implemented this technique very early and it has been adopted for any later serious use of password. That's why you never can have your password recovered, only "reset" - which means replaced with a temporary password you have to replace at the first login.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sendt: 16. april 2017 06:07:51
Til: 'Off Topic'; List
Emne: [dba-Tech] Password

I changed by password for my Microsoft account.  I was supposed to find that
he login password on my computer was changed to that new password.

Tonight I tried to change my login password but apparently my computer login
password is tied to my Microsoft account.

Am I not allowed to pick a password for my computer which is different from
my Microsoft account?  I don't want my login password to be in the cloud
somewhere.  I don't want it to be anywhere but in my head.

Is this a privilege I lost when I upgraded to W10?"

Rocky

From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Apr 16 02:27:23 2017
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:27:23 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Password
In-Reply-To: <000001d2b669$3738b410$a5aa1c30$@bchacc.com>
References: <006d01d2b667$054461e0$0fcd25a0$@bchacc.com>
	<c7607526-852a-eb79-44dd-08210e212a19@earthlink.net>,
	<000001d2b669$3738b410$a5aa1c30$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB11653BB7DFB1D6E4B0C009C9CA070@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Rocky

> I just didn't like the idea that MS could log into my box when they wanted to. 

You should have learned by now, that MS can't do this, neither can anyone else.

As for Flash, it is one of the most buggy-able and vulnerable pieces of software ever created, that's why it is so often updated. But the last month has been worse than ever.

My best advice - implemented at our office machines as well - is simply not to install Flash. Use the Edge browser where you can switch it on if you really need it, and - if so - it will automatically and silently be updated by Windows Update.

If you need another browser than Edge, don't install Flash but switch to Edge when you really have to open a site using Flash.

And if you are not joking about being paranoid, remove Chrome at once, which is the tool for Google to track all (as in all) your doings on the web, and use the InPrivate setting of Edge, turn on Windows Defender SmartScreen, and have Adblock Plus installed.

/gustav

________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sendt: 16. april 2017 06:23:35
Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Password

Wow.  That was easy.  Thank you.

I'm not one of those paranoids that suspects everyone is watching them.  But
I just didn't like the idea that MS could log into my box when they wanted
to.  I know there's no one interested in me enough to do that. But still...

Now, next question - why do I have to update Adobe Flash EVERY time I
restart my comp?  Is it because they're hoping that one time I'll forget to
uncheck installing McAffee? Or do they really have software that's so buggy
it needs updating 4 times a week?

Rocky

From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Apr 16 06:37:28 2017
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:37:28 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Password
Message-ID: <CA++Sg+fGZ0HyY7JYeK+6mZfLgqq2p=oMPOxwusM5o-sHw4vquQ@mail.gmail.com>

Speaking of Edge... once I upgraded to 10, I decided to use Edge a bit. I
like it okay and it was fast -- at first. Within days, it slowed down. I'm
not running any extensions or unusual settings. Flash is installed, but set
to ask to run when prompted -- it doesn't run automatically and usually, if
I see that prompt, I ignore it. There's not much I really need badly enough
to run it.

But, any ideas why Edge has slowed down? I'm not running AdBlocker, I am
using Windows Defender.

Susan H.


> My best advice - implemented at our office machines as well - is simply
> not to install Flash. Use the Edge browser where you can switch it on if
> you really need it, and - if so - it will automatically and silently be
> updated by Windows Update.
>
>
> And if you are not joking about being paranoid, remove Chrome at once,
> which is the tool for Google to track all (as in all) your doings on the
> web, and use the InPrivate setting of Edge, turn on Windows Defender
> SmartScreen, and have Adblock Plus installed.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Fra: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Rocky
> Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Sendt: 16. april 2017 06:23:35
> Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Password
>
> Wow.  That was easy.  Thank you.
>
> I'm not one of those paranoids that suspects everyone is watching them.
> But
> I just didn't like the idea that MS could log into my box when they wanted
> to.  I know there's no one interested in me enough to do that. But still...
>
> Now, next question - why do I have to update Adobe Flash EVERY time I
> restart my comp?  Is it because they're hoping that one time I'll forget to
> uncheck installing McAffee? Or do they really have software that's so buggy
> it needs updating 4 times a week?
>
> Rocky
> _______________________________________________
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 17 12:00:16 2017
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:00:16 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] "almost impossible to detect" phishing attack
Message-ID: <0f2a01d2b79c$1707bd10$45173730$@winhaven.net>

A Chinese infosec researcher has discovered a new "almost impossible to
detect" phishing attack that can be used to trick even the most careful
users on the Internet.

He warned, Hackers can use a known vulnerability in the Chrome, Firefox and
Opera web browsers to display their fake domain names as the websites of
legitimate services, like Apple, Google, or Amazon to steal login or
financial credentials and other sensitive information from users.
http://tinyurl.com/mtbkboq

Firefox uses can follow below-mentioned steps to manually apply temporarily
mitigation:
1. Type about:config in address bar and press enter.
2. Type Punycode in the search bar.
3. Browser settings will show parameter titled: network.IDN_show_punycode,
double-click or right-click and select Toggle to change the value from false
to true.

Unfortunately, there is no similar setting available in Chrome or Opera to
disable Punycode URL conversions manually, so Chrome users have to wait for
next few weeks to get patched Stable 58 release.



From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 17 13:14:47 2017
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:14:47 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] "almost impossible to detect" phishing attack
In-Reply-To: <0f2a01d2b79c$1707bd10$45173730$@winhaven.net>
References: <0f2a01d2b79c$1707bd10$45173730$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <095419d6-c085-83b9-8ed8-e7900cb2f64d@earthlink.net>

On 4/17/2017 12:00, John R Bartow wrote:
> A Chinese infosec researcher has discovered a new "almost impossible to
> detect" phishing attack that can be used to trick even the most careful
> users on the Internet.
>
> He warned, Hackers can use a known vulnerability in the Chrome, Firefox and
> Opera web browsers to display their fake domain names as the websites of
> legitimate services, like Apple, Google, or Amazon to steal login or
> financial credentials and other sensitive information from users.
> http://tinyurl.com/mtbkboq
>
> Firefox uses can follow below-mentioned steps to manually apply temporarily
> mitigation:
> 1. Type about:config in address bar and press enter.
> 2. Type Punycode in the search bar.
> 3. Browser settings will show parameter titled: network.IDN_show_punycode,
> double-click or right-click and select Toggle to change the value from false
> to true.
>
> Unfortunately, there is no similar setting available in Chrome or Opera to
> disable Punycode URL conversions manually, so Chrome users have to wait for
> next few weeks to get patched Stable 58 release.

Interestingly, Google Chrome 57 "can't reach" his apple.com page, but 
does reach the epic.com proof-of-concept page.

PB

>
>
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 17 23:33:20 2017
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:33:20 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] "almost impossible to detect" phishing attack
In-Reply-To: <095419d6-c085-83b9-8ed8-e7900cb2f64d@earthlink.net>
References: <0f2a01d2b79c$1707bd10$45173730$@winhaven.net>
	<095419d6-c085-83b9-8ed8-e7900cb2f64d@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1fe201d2b7fc$e8ddb050$ba9910f0$@winhaven.net>

Apple had probably sued them already ;-)

I doubt a lot of this is actually happening but it's worth a 30 second
config change in FF.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Brawley
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 1:15 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] "almost impossible to detect" phishing attack

On 4/17/2017 12:00, John R Bartow wrote:
> A Chinese infosec researcher has discovered a new "almost impossible 
> to detect" phishing attack that can be used to trick even the most 
> careful users on the Internet.
>
> He warned, Hackers can use a known vulnerability in the Chrome, 
> Firefox and Opera web browsers to display their fake domain names as 
> the websites of legitimate services, like Apple, Google, or Amazon to 
> steal login or financial credentials and other sensitive information from
users.
> http://tinyurl.com/mtbkboq
>
> Firefox uses can follow below-mentioned steps to manually apply 
> temporarily
> mitigation:
> 1. Type about:config in address bar and press enter.
> 2. Type Punycode in the search bar.
> 3. Browser settings will show parameter titled: 
> network.IDN_show_punycode, double-click or right-click and select 
> Toggle to change the value from false to true.
>
> Unfortunately, there is no similar setting available in Chrome or 
> Opera to disable Punycode URL conversions manually, so Chrome users 
> have to wait for next few weeks to get patched Stable 58 release.

Interestingly, Google Chrome 57 "can't reach" his apple.com page, but does
reach the epic.com proof-of-concept page.

PB

>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 19 16:58:59 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:58:59 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Failed graphics
In-Reply-To: <1512732321.52095781.1491332009978.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1485374635.27194082.1487883924393.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1992848339.46534524.1491155887593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1512732321.52095781.1491332009978.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <585953702.90779555.1492639139589.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Has anyone ran across a situation where their built-in graphic card has failed but only partially. Ran across such an issue on a Lenovo ThinkCentre. Initially, I thought the failure was a software problem as I have never seen an Intel graphic or any graphic card for that matter partially fail. As the computer has a very small foot-print and all the components are built into a single board, it is unlike that the single above-board expansion slot will support any third party graphic card. If the GPU had completely failed the problem would have been easy to diagnose. It took over two weeks of going back and forth and researching before a solution was discovered.

All said and done, the computer now works though the fancier 3D graphics and all programs that require such features just pause, then fail but it no longer freezes or force a reboot. The client seems happy enough, as the Office software and email works but the long range plans sees this box's future as a some special headless server (maybe a NAS controller :-)), running from the command prompt and a new work-station being brought in.

Jim   

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu Apr 20 23:45:50 2017
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:45:50 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A great list for #nix geeks
Message-ID: <250501d2ba5a$272e1480$758a3d80$@winhaven.net>

https://github.com/n1trux/awesome-sysadmin


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Apr 23 12:34:52 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 10:34:52 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Another Mystery
Message-ID: <000001d2bc57$ea93ff30$bfbbfd90$@bchacc.com>

Dear List(s):

 

I thought  my external hard drive (WD Passport .5GB) had failed. But when I
plugged it into my laptop (USB) it worked.  Then I plugged it into my
secondary box, and it worked!

 

So it hasn't failed but something in my main box (W10) has.  Everything else
I plug into the USB port works.  It seems to have just stopped recognizing
this particular device.

 

Any ideas?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Apr 23 12:58:41 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 10:58:41 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] [dba-OT] Another Mystery
In-Reply-To: <000001d2bc57$ea93ff30$bfbbfd90$@bchacc.com>
References: <000001d2bc57$ea93ff30$bfbbfd90$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <000601d2bc5b$3e4f0ea0$baed2be0$@bchacc.com>

So for the moment the problem seems to be solved.  I have two of these
passports on the main box.  So I unplugged the working one and plugged in
the "dead" one and the "dead" one works - showed up in My Computer.  Plugged
in the other one and not it works as well.  Reboot the comp and everyone's
playing nicely now.  So that's that.  For now.

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-OT [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 10:35 AM
To: List; 'Off Topic'
Subject: [dba-OT] Another Mystery

Dear List(s):

 

I thought  my external hard drive (WD Passport .5GB) had failed. But when I
plugged it into my laptop (USB) it worked.  Then I plugged it into my
secondary box, and it worked!

 

So it hasn't failed but something in my main box (W10) has.  Everything else
I plug into the USB port works.  It seems to have just stopped recognizing
this particular device.

 

Any ideas?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 23 23:39:35 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 22:39:35 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] A great list for #nix geeks
In-Reply-To: <250501d2ba5a$272e1480$758a3d80$@winhaven.net>
References: <250501d2ba5a$272e1480$758a3d80$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <706787166.101670753.1493008775806.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

These list are not a list of specific applications but a list of genres, which encompasses thousands of applications...and these are only programs that are active on Github, which is one of a number of major development platforms. Github is just the largest.

It is all totally mind boggling.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:45:50 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] A great list for #nix geeks

https://github.com/n1trux/awesome-sysadmin

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 24 23:14:43 2017
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:14:43 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A great list for #nix geeks
In-Reply-To: <706787166.101670753.1493008775806.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <250501d2ba5a$272e1480$758a3d80$@winhaven.net>
	<706787166.101670753.1493008775806.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1aee01d2bd7a$77a30d80$66e92880$@winhaven.net>

Blew my mind

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 11:40 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A great list for #nix geeks

These list are not a list of specific applications but a list of genres,
which encompasses thousands of applications...and these are only programs
that are active on Github, which is one of a number of major development
platforms. Github is just the largest.

It is all totally mind boggling.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:45:50 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] A great list for #nix geeks

https://github.com/n1trux/awesome-sysadmin

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 05:38:17 2017
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 05:38:17 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] A great list for #nix geeks
In-Reply-To: <706787166.101670753.1493008775806.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <250501d2ba5a$272e1480$758a3d80$@winhaven.net>
	<706787166.101670753.1493008775806.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAAZtbWFONgGuyJdACewKbEpocTH65mqe5zN=46tGQ0pzsnn90A@mail.gmail.com>

It is a list of specific apps. Just scroll down the page and it lists
app after app all sorted by category or genre if you prefer. And they
aren't only apps that are active on Github. There are apps that have
code bases separate from Github.

B

On 23 April 2017 at 23:39, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> These list are not a list of specific applications but a list of genres, which encompasses thousands of applications...and these are only programs that are active on Github, which is one of a number of major development platforms. Github is just the largest.
>
> It is all totally mind boggling.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:45:50 PM
> Subject: [dba-Tech] A great list for #nix geeks
>
> https://github.com/n1trux/awesome-sysadmin
>
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 27 18:50:47 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:50:47 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Building Containers
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR19MB0807BDEF54582E4AC88CCCBBF60D0@CO1PR19MB0807.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<CO1PR19MB0807BDEF54582E4AC88CCCBBF60D0@CO1PR19MB0807.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1515986126.112883554.1493337047154.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

I am still working to get myself up to speed in the building of Containers. After working so many years with VDs, where the installation process was obvious, Containers still leave me challenged...there is just so many items that must be handled when building a distributive container.

One interesting thing is the OS that a Container uses. It has to be super small, full featured and in the case of IoT (Internet of Things) applications, it must be very secure. To that end check out the Linux distro Alpine at https://alpinelinux.org.

If it is run "headless" and stripped, a fully functional Alpine OS can be squeezed to only into only 3MB. (Of course this is huge compared to our systems back in the 80's but by today's standards, where an OS can top 20GB...)

Jim ? ?


From hans.andersen at phulse.com  Thu Apr 27 19:07:25 2017
From: hans.andersen at phulse.com (Hans-Christian Andersen)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:07:25 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Building Containers
In-Reply-To: <1515986126.112883554.1493337047154.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<CO1PR19MB0807BDEF54582E4AC88CCCBBF60D0@CO1PR19MB0807.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<1515986126.112883554.1493337047154.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAFj0BAxgjhryLOTq-bO+Sba3b2C5cwzucY-HJ-11boMRzkBbeg@mail.gmail.com>

I clearly remember 20+ years ago when upgrading my PC RAM from 4MB to 8MB
(and it made a difference!) was a huge deal.

- Hans


*Hans-Christian Andersen**Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada*


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On 27 April 2017 at 16:50, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I am still working to get myself up to speed in the building of
> Containers. After working so many years with VDs, where the installation
> process was obvious, Containers still leave me challenged...there is just
> so many items that must be handled when building a distributive container.
>
> One interesting thing is the OS that a Container uses. It has to be super
> small, full featured and in the case of IoT (Internet of Things)
> applications, it must be very secure. To that end check out the Linux
> distro Alpine at https://alpinelinux.org.
>
> If it is run "headless" and stripped, a fully functional Alpine OS can be
> squeezed to only into only 3MB. (Of course this is huge compared to our
> systems back in the 80's but by today's standards, where an OS can top
> 20GB...)
>
> Jim
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 27 19:16:01 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:16:01 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Internet of Things
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR19MB0807BDEF54582E4AC88CCCBBF60D0@CO1PR19MB0807.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<CO1PR19MB0807BDEF54582E4AC88CCCBBF60D0@CO1PR19MB0807.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1895320825.112956646.1493338561189.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

With more and more IoT and those super small computers running everything, from lights to refrigerators, from single units to clusters of such devices within large industrial machines, centrally handling and monitoring all the equipment can become more difficult. 

Dell, working within the Linux Foundation, has built and open source IoT server that can encompass an entire company network even extending across the web. Dell is not the only company involved with this design effort. (Even voice recognition hardware is compatible.) They have been working with the whose-who of the leading edge tech companies. (Yes, even Microsoft is involved but not as a founding member):

https://betanews.com/2017/04/24/linux-foundation-iot-open-source-edgex-foundry-ubuntu-canonical/
http://bit.ly/2qddRZ9

Aside: Now is a good time to get up to speed in IPv6. I am not sure when the product will be available for download, as it has just been announced this week, so we are talking Beta and maybe even Alpha, but anyone can go to EdgeXFoundary to register for notification: https://www.edgexfoundry.org/

Jim 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 27 19:19:29 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:19:29 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Building Containers
In-Reply-To: <CAFj0BAxgjhryLOTq-bO+Sba3b2C5cwzucY-HJ-11boMRzkBbeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
	<CO1PR19MB0807BDEF54582E4AC88CCCBBF60D0@CO1PR19MB0807.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<1515986126.112883554.1493337047154.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<CAFj0BAxgjhryLOTq-bO+Sba3b2C5cwzucY-HJ-11boMRzkBbeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1494152405.112967415.1493338769814.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Hans:

I didn't think you were old enough to remember that far back. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans-Christian Andersen" <hans.andersen at phulse.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:07:25 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Building Containers

I clearly remember 20+ years ago when upgrading my PC RAM from 4MB to 8MB
(and it made a difference!) was a huge deal.

- Hans


*Hans-Christian Andersen**Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada*


E: hans at phulse.com
T: +44 (0)20 7193 7841
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On 27 April 2017 at 16:50, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I am still working to get myself up to speed in the building of
> Containers. After working so many years with VDs, where the installation
> process was obvious, Containers still leave me challenged...there is just
> so many items that must be handled when building a distributive container.
>
> One interesting thing is the OS that a Container uses. It has to be super
> small, full featured and in the case of IoT (Internet of Things)
> applications, it must be very secure. To that end check out the Linux
> distro Alpine at https://alpinelinux.org.
>
> If it is run "headless" and stripped, a fully functional Alpine OS can be
> squeezed to only into only 3MB. (Of course this is huge compared to our
> systems back in the 80's but by today's standards, where an OS can top
> 20GB...)
>
> Jim
>
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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 19:59:18 2017
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:59:18 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Building Containers
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References: <1491475848.682162471@f345.i.mail.ru>
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LOL, I clearly remember (1979) when upgrading my Z-80 computer from 16 
KB to 24 KB was a huge deal.  And actually allowed me to run my 12 KB 
ZAPPLE Basic plus a small program.  Loaded off my cassette drive from my 
stereo.  It took 3 minutes to load Zapple basic and it crashed ALL THE 
TIME.  Ahhh the good old days.

On the other hand, long before that, the programs I entered into the 
Univac Digital Trainer by hand (US Navy, 1973), punching buttons on the 
front panel to load machine instructions into Core memory, and then 
saving my program to paper tape.

This thing more or less.

https://www.smecc.org/univac_422.htm

Those were the good old days...  :)

OK maybe not!  I kinda like my modern tablet.

On 4/27/2017 8:07 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote:
> I clearly remember 20+ years ago when upgrading my PC RAM from 4MB to 8MB
> (and it made a difference!) was a huge deal.
>
> - Hans
>
>
> *Hans-Christian Andersen**Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada*
>
>
> E: hans at phulse.com
> T: +44 (0)20 7193 7841
> L: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/andersenhc
> http://www.nokenode.com/
>
> *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork*
> *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com
>
>
>
> On 27 April 2017 at 16:50, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I am still working to get myself up to speed in the building of
>> Containers. After working so many years with VDs, where the installation
>> process was obvious, Containers still leave me challenged...there is just
>> so many items that must be handled when building a distributive container.
>>
>> One interesting thing is the OS that a Container uses. It has to be super
>> small, full featured and in the case of IoT (Internet of Things)
>> applications, it must be very secure. To that end check out the Linux
>> distro Alpine at https://alpinelinux.org.
>>
>> If it is run "headless" and stripped, a fully functional Alpine OS can be
>> squeezed to only into only 3MB. (Of course this is huge compared to our
>> systems back in the 80's but by today's standards, where an OS can top
>> 20GB...)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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>

-- 
John W. Colby


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 27 20:11:20 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:11:20 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] The Internet of Things
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Docker is working to provide a universal Linux-subsystem that will work on all platforms so any developer can create Containers and build for the new IoT (Internet of Things) devices:

https://blog.docker.com/2017/04/introducing-linuxkit-container-os-toolkit/
http://dockr.ly/2qdtBew

Jim