From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar  3 13:25:52 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 12:25:52 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] OnlyOffice
In-Reply-To: <1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1485374635.27194082.1487883924393.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <723600325.53560943.1488569152805.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

There are a number of great Office packages but for a small to large office that needs Cloud integration for location distributed offices, full featured, universally hardware and software compatibility and excellently priced, look no further than OnlyOffice.

Check out the website:
https://www.onlyoffice.com/

...and read a user review:
https://itsfoss.com/review-onlyoffice-desktop-editors-linux/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=free_linux_ebook_libreoffice_53_release_and_other_linux_stories&utm_term=2017-03-03
http://bit.ly/2mOBa6P

Jim  

From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Mar  6 09:28:25 2017
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 15:28:25 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 moving ahead
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1165D97B89F48D7875001D85CA2C0@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all

Should you think that Microsoft is sitting on the hands, then read here how Windows 10 this Spring again will move forward:

https://www.howtogeek.com/278132/whats-new-in-windows-10s-creators-update/

/gustav

From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar  6 19:10:06 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 18:10:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 moving ahead
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB1165D97B89F48D7875001D85CA2C0@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB1165D97B89F48D7875001D85CA2C0@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1697307095.63786136.1488849006263.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Now that looks like fun.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 7:28:25 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Windows 10 moving ahead

Hi all

Should you think that Microsoft is sitting on the hands, then read here how Windows 10 this Spring again will move forward:

https://www.howtogeek.com/278132/whats-new-in-windows-10s-creators-update/

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Mar  8 11:23:04 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 09:23:04 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Searchable online
In-Reply-To: <CAFgQvpFrePtULTwbiuMJD+TT1rx9750yF-t8O6sxrCtRjnZC6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFgQvpF5CuHuM-0U5Sgitm_qnbLDHbn_68pNSy8Jd+2PwmiW_g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpGNtzVXWMVL4VT=5nkQe8uqDXJRwHEw-Lfj3x7JgDgQkw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpEq+4QFi9eogwEOjjB_TMFpk4pxxVPymJyzJ7v0c5GO5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpHk61-NsTWcFnKKveThT7-J+4RWQ=AV9PWm3hVPoCYCLA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpHhaymnQKG42cAUC=-h-ckg17uApfYdJ6fuuPuhC3SY=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpFrePtULTwbiuMJD+TT1rx9750yF-t8O6sxrCtRjnZC6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01d501d29830$a54154a0$efc3fde0$@bchacc.com>

 

Dear List(s):

 

My son who is in a doctorate program in Psych send the following email asking for advice from me and his uber-geek brother. He writes:

 

I need help -- it may be impossible, but if anyone could do it, you guys can.

 

When I Google my full name there are dozens of results that give info like my age, full names of family members, past places of residence, etc. Since I am working with the public and could possibly next year be working with psychiatric hospital patients (yikes), I'd like to hide or remove as many of them as possible. Or is there a way to ask for a filter on Google search so the results don't show up and people have to go directly to the URL to see them?

 

Thoughts?

 

 

His brother posted the following advice:

 

Cleaning up personal Google search results is exceedingly difficult. Google allows no native way to do this, and so it's effectively impossible without going to each site individually. So it ultimately depends on what you want to clean up. 

 

There are two time-tested ways of cleaning up personal information:

 

 - Start creating content that replaces it in search results online. This doesn't erase personal info, but it sure does bury it.

 - For each entry, go through that particular site's routes for permanently deleting your account. 

 

It may also be useful to set up a Google Alert on your name and contact info.  You'll get an email from Google whenever they appear somewhere online.

 

So I?m wondering what other advice anyone here might have which may also be useful for the rest of us.

 

I thank you all in advance and will forward any of your advice to both of them.

 

MTIA

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 


From jwcolby at gmail.com  Wed Mar  8 17:28:04 2017
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 18:28:04 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] FW: Searchable online
In-Reply-To: <86BAEDFD3EF34714B6B06A27D830F5F5@XPS>
References: <CAFgQvpF5CuHuM-0U5Sgitm_qnbLDHbn_68pNSy8Jd+2PwmiW_g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpGNtzVXWMVL4VT=5nkQe8uqDXJRwHEw-Lfj3x7JgDgQkw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpEq+4QFi9eogwEOjjB_TMFpk4pxxVPymJyzJ7v0c5GO5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpHk61-NsTWcFnKKveThT7-J+4RWQ=AV9PWm3hVPoCYCLA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpHhaymnQKG42cAUC=-h-ckg17uApfYdJ6fuuPuhC3SY=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgQvpFrePtULTwbiuMJD+TT1rx9750yF-t8O6sxrCtRjnZC6g@mail.gmail.com>
	<01d501d29830$a54154a0$efc3fde0$@bchacc.com>
	<86BAEDFD3EF34714B6B06A27D830F5F5@XPS>
Message-ID: <58C09384.2000805@Gmail.com>

LOL move to Europe?

On 3/8/2017 12:36 PM, Jim Dettman wrote:
>   It's impossible.
>
>   Google is pulling from many sites out on the net and keep in mind that
> there are other search engines.
>
>   You'd have to request that each site remove that information and many would
> not since that information is mined from public data.
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:23 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
> Subject: [AccessD] FW: Searchable online
>
>   
>
> Dear List(s):
>
>   
>
> My son who is in a doctorate program in Psych send the following email
> asking for advice from me and his uber-geek brother. He writes:
>
>   
>
> I need help -- it may be impossible, but if anyone could do it, you guys
> can.
>
>   
>
> When I Google my full name there are dozens of results that give info like
> my age, full names of family members, past places of residence, etc. Since I
> am working with the public and could possibly next year be working with
> psychiatric hospital patients (yikes), I'd like to hide or remove as many of
> them as possible. Or is there a way to ask for a filter on Google search so
> the results don't show up and people have to go directly to the URL to see
> them?
>
>   
>
> Thoughts?
>
>   
>
>   
>
> His brother posted the following advice:
>
>   
>
> Cleaning up personal Google search results is exceedingly difficult. Google
> allows no native way to do this, and so it's effectively impossible without
> going to each site individually. So it ultimately depends on what you want
> to clean up.
>
>   
>
> There are two time-tested ways of cleaning up personal information:
>
>   
>
>   - Start creating content that replaces it in search results online. This
> doesn't erase personal info, but it sure does bury it.
>
>   - For each entry, go through that particular site's routes for permanently
> deleting your account.
>
>   
>
> It may also be useful to set up a Google Alert on your name and contact
> info.  You'll get an email from Google whenever they appear somewhere
> online.
>
>   
>
> So I'm wondering what other advice anyone here might have which may also be
> useful for the rest of us.
>
>   
>
> I thank you all in advance and will forward any of your advice to both of
> them.
>
>   
>
> MTIA
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 760-683-5777
>
>   <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
>
>   <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
>   
>
>   
>

-- 
John W. Colby


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Mar  8 18:15:57 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 16:15:57 -0800
Subject: [dba-Tech] [AccessD] FW: Searchable online
In-Reply-To: <58C09384.2000805@Gmail.com>
References: <CAFgQvpF5CuHuM-0U5Sgitm_qnbLDHbn_68pNSy8Jd+2PwmiW_g@mail.gmail.com>	<CAFgQvpGNtzVXWMVL4VT=5nkQe8uqDXJRwHEw-Lfj3x7JgDgQkw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAFgQvpEq+4QFi9eogwEOjjB_TMFpk4pxxVPymJyzJ7v0c5GO5A@mail.gmail.com>	<CAFgQvpHk61-NsTWcFnKKveThT7-J+4RWQ=AV9PWm3hVPoCYCLA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAFgQvpHhaymnQKG42cAUC=-h-ckg17uApfYdJ6fuuPuhC3SY=A@mail.gmail.com>	<CAFgQvpFrePtULTwbiuMJD+TT1rx9750yF-t8O6sxrCtRjnZC6g@mail.gmail.com>	<01d501d29830$a54154a0$efc3fde0$@bchacc.com>	<86BAEDFD3EF34714B6B06A27D830F5F5@XPS>
	<58C09384.2000805@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001501d2986a$533519f0$f99f4dd0$@bchacc.com>

Nah.  They got the internets in Europe too.

R


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
John Colby
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; 'List'; 'Off Topic'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Searchable online

LOL move to Europe?

On 3/8/2017 12:36 PM, Jim Dettman wrote:
>   It's impossible.
>
>   Google is pulling from many sites out on the net and keep in mind 
> that there are other search engines.
>
>   You'd have to request that each site remove that information and 
> many would not since that information is mined from public data.
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:23 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List; 'Off Topic'
> Subject: [AccessD] FW: Searchable online
>
>   
>
> Dear List(s):
>
>   
>
> My son who is in a doctorate program in Psych send the following email 
> asking for advice from me and his uber-geek brother. He writes:
>
>   
>
> I need help -- it may be impossible, but if anyone could do it, you 
> guys can.
>
>   
>
> When I Google my full name there are dozens of results that give info 
> like my age, full names of family members, past places of residence, 
> etc. Since I am working with the public and could possibly next year 
> be working with psychiatric hospital patients (yikes), I'd like to 
> hide or remove as many of them as possible. Or is there a way to ask 
> for a filter on Google search so the results don't show up and people 
> have to go directly to the URL to see them?
>
>   
>
> Thoughts?
>
>   
>
>   
>
> His brother posted the following advice:
>
>   
>
> Cleaning up personal Google search results is exceedingly difficult. 
> Google allows no native way to do this, and so it's effectively 
> impossible without going to each site individually. So it ultimately 
> depends on what you want to clean up.
>
>   
>
> There are two time-tested ways of cleaning up personal information:
>
>   
>
>   - Start creating content that replaces it in search results online. 
> This doesn't erase personal info, but it sure does bury it.
>
>   - For each entry, go through that particular site's routes for 
> permanently deleting your account.
>
>   
>
> It may also be useful to set up a Google Alert on your name and 
> contact info.  You'll get an email from Google whenever they appear 
> somewhere online.
>
>   
>
> So I'm wondering what other advice anyone here might have which may 
> also be useful for the rest of us.
>
>   
>
> I thank you all in advance and will forward any of your advice to both 
> of them.
>
>   
>
> MTIA
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 760-683-5777
>
>   <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
>
>   <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> Skype: rocky.smolin
>
>   
>
>   
>

--
John W. Colby

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Mar  9 09:34:01 2017
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 10:34:01 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Smallest storage yet
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gk=04_LBSn-ig+9bDTqf-ZnEPoD=50ne+70wFh+jDSrg@mail.gmail.com>

IBM researchers have found a way to store one bit of data in a magnet
consisting of just one atom, the company announced on Wednesday. Read all
about it here
<http://www.zdnet.com/article/single-atom-magnet-to-pave-the-way-for-smaller-and-denser-storage-devices-ibm/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_featured&ftag=TRE17cfd61&bhid=21863409688987418407535695381561>
.

-- 
Arthur

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Mar  9 10:47:40 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 09:47:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Smallest storage yet
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gk=04_LBSn-ig+9bDTqf-ZnEPoD=50ne+70wFh+jDSrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gk=04_LBSn-ig+9bDTqf-ZnEPoD=50ne+70wFh+jDSrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2066503134.73826290.1489078060524.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

That is astounding. I wonder how long it will take for that technology to reach the commodity market...us?

Imagine that some geek could run an entire data center out of his/her basement. The entire system could be housed in a chocolate box or petabytes of storage on your cell phone...a entire library of books at instant disposal... 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 7:34:01 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Smallest storage yet

IBM researchers have found a way to store one bit of data in a magnet
consisting of just one atom, the company announced on Wednesday. Read all
about it here
<http://www.zdnet.com/article/single-atom-magnet-to-pave-the-way-for-smaller-and-denser-storage-devices-ibm/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_featured&ftag=TRE17cfd61&bhid=21863409688987418407535695381561>
.

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu Mar  9 22:39:28 2017
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 22:39:28 -0600
Subject: [dba-Tech] Smallest storage yet
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gk=04_LBSn-ig+9bDTqf-ZnEPoD=50ne+70wFh+jDSrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1gk=04_LBSn-ig+9bDTqf-ZnEPoD=50ne+70wFh+jDSrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <08b901d29958$4dd08a50$e9719ef0$@winhaven.net>

Wow! But how will I get a dummy cord attached to that?! I seem to lose my
little flash drives constantly as it is!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 9:34 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Smallest storage yet

IBM researchers have found a way to store one bit of data in a magnet
consisting of just one atom, the company announced on Wednesday. Read all
about it here
<http://www.zdnet.com/article/single-atom-magnet-to-pave-the-way-for-smaller
-and-denser-storage-devices-ibm/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_featured&ftag=TR
E17cfd61&bhid=21863409688987418407535695381561>
.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 10 14:22:51 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:22:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system
In-Reply-To: <1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1485374635.27194082.1487883924393.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

The 3CX Phone System is a boutique designed Linux distro for the sole purpose of managing an office phone system. It has a very small footprint, less than 512MB, counting extras and the databases, so the system can be added to a network via an older box or one with little resources...or even run from the Cloud. The distro has been around for a while but it was not until recently that I actually saw it installed and up and running...and I was very impressed. The local techs said that they had the system up and running in a morning and could mix the old and old equipment (telephones): https://www.3cx.com/  

Quote:

3CX Phone System is a specialist, Debian-based Linux distribution designed to run a complete unified communications platform. The 3CX client, included in the distribution, can also be installed separately on most hardware as well as the Cloud. It provides a complete open standards-based IP PBX and phone system that works with popular SIP trunks and IP phones. It will automatically configure all supported peripherals and it also comes with clients for Windows, OS X, iOS and Android. The ISO image includes a free license for the 3CX PBX edition. The ISO images contain the standard Debian installer which installs a minimal system with the nginx web server, PostgreSQL database, iptables firewall and Secure Shell. Options not relevant to 3CX have been removed from the distribution. Download the installation ISO image from here: debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso (265MB):

http://downloads.3cx.com/downloads/3cxpbxiso/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso
http://bit.ly/2mskxhw

In addition, this software, at least the client part, runs on all platforms (and even the Cloud), supports multiple languages, has online and phone support across North America and Europe (from the US to Russia...Africa to Australia) and forums, documents and so on...

https://www.3cx.com/phone-system/3CXPhoneSystem_brochure.pdf

As it is basically, for a base, small installation, free and open source anyone can download and play with it and find out it is right for your clients.
 
Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 10 15:44:54 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:44:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Smallest storage yet
In-Reply-To: <08b901d29958$4dd08a50$e9719ef0$@winhaven.net>
References: <CAEPJO1gk=04_LBSn-ig+9bDTqf-ZnEPoD=50ne+70wFh+jDSrg@mail.gmail.com>
	<08b901d29958$4dd08a50$e9719ef0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <1257828229.79186172.1489182294652.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Geek jewelry is just a USB stick attached to a long cord hung around the neck. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 8:39:28 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Smallest storage yet

Wow! But how will I get a dummy cord attached to that?! I seem to lose my
little flash drives constantly as it is!

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 9:34 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: [dba-Tech] Smallest storage yet

IBM researchers have found a way to store one bit of data in a magnet
consisting of just one atom, the company announced on Wednesday. Read all
about it here
<http://www.zdnet.com/article/single-atom-magnet-to-pave-the-way-for-smaller
-and-denser-storage-devices-ibm/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_featured&ftag=TR
E17cfd61&bhid=21863409688987418407535695381561>
.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Mar 11 02:36:09 2017
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 08:36:09 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system
In-Reply-To: <1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1485374635.27194082.1487883924393.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>,
	<1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <HE1PR06MB116217863161477CDB159ADFCA230@HE1PR06MB1162.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

Yes, highly recommended. We've used it for the last two years, though running on Windows Server 2012 R2. In fact, it replaced our last Linux server running a Trixbox PBX based on Asterisk.

Indeed, if you operate in Europe, 3CX should be your first choice as it - contrary to Asterisk - truly understands European telcos and telephony standards. Besides, management is a breeze compared to the total mess of Asterisk and its derivations.

Further, if you grow out of the free version (1 trunk, 8 simultaneous calls), the system is in no way expensive.
However, open-source it isn't. It least I haven't seen anything stating this.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 10. marts 2017 21:22:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi All:

The 3CX Phone System is a boutique designed Linux distro for the sole purpose of managing an office phone system. It has a very small footprint, less than 512MB, counting extras and the databases, so the system can be added to a network via an older box or one with little resources...or even run from the Cloud. The distro has been around for a while but it was not until recently that I actually saw it installed and up and running...and I was very impressed. The local techs said that they had the system up and running in a morning and could mix the old and old equipment (telephones): https://www.3cx.com/

Quote:

3CX Phone System is a specialist, Debian-based Linux distribution designed to run a complete unified communications platform. The 3CX client, included in the distribution, can also be installed separately on most hardware as well as the Cloud. It provides a complete open standards-based IP PBX and phone system that works with popular SIP trunks and IP phones. It will automatically configure all supported peripherals and it also comes with clients for Windows, OS X, iOS and Android. The ISO image includes a free license for the 3CX PBX edition. The ISO images contain the standard Debian installer which installs a minimal system with the nginx web server, PostgreSQL database, iptables firewall and Secure Shell. Options not relevant to 3CX have been removed from the distribution. Download the installation ISO image from here: debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso (265MB):

http://downloads.3cx.com/downloads/3cxpbxiso/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso
http://bit.ly/2mskxhw

In addition, this software, at least the client part, runs on all platforms (and even the Cloud), supports multiple languages, has online and phone support across North America and Europe (from the US to Russia...Africa to Australia) and forums, documents and so on...

https://www.3cx.com/phone-system/3CXPhoneSystem_brochure.pdf

As it is basically, for a base, small installation, free and open source anyone can download and play with it and find out it is right for your clients.

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Mar 12 23:31:49 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:31:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR06MB116217863161477CDB159ADFCA230@HE1PR06MB1162.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1485374635.27194082.1487883924393.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<HE1PR06MB116217863161477CDB159ADFCA230@HE1PR06MB1162.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <780014080.85982800.1489379509836.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

Hope you got a good deal on the Windows Server 2012 R2. (Last time I looked, it would have cost me in the 4K bracket, which is beyond my retired budget... ;-))  

It does sound like you have a very effective system. 

I did check and even though the product was built upon a Debian distro, the core 3CX is not OSS. For the fun of it, I downloaded and ran the ISO, but without doing any configuration (wouldn't know where to start without studying the docs) and it took less than 12 minutes, from a USB stick, to have a fully operational server in place, installed on the network...sweet. :-)

I may recommend this product, to a client, if the circumstances come up again...if you get some prank call from Canada about some 3CX problem, you will know where it comes from. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:36:09 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Jim

Yes, highly recommended. We've used it for the last two years, though running on Windows Server 2012 R2. In fact, it replaced our last Linux server running a Trixbox PBX based on Asterisk.

Indeed, if you operate in Europe, 3CX should be your first choice as it - contrary to Asterisk - truly understands European telcos and telephony standards. Besides, management is a breeze compared to the total mess of Asterisk and its derivations.

Further, if you grow out of the free version (1 trunk, 8 simultaneous calls), the system is in no way expensive.
However, open-source it isn't. It least I haven't seen anything stating this.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 10. marts 2017 21:22:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi All:

The 3CX Phone System is a boutique designed Linux distro for the sole purpose of managing an office phone system. It has a very small footprint, less than 512MB, counting extras and the databases, so the system can be added to a network via an older box or one with little resources...or even run from the Cloud. The distro has been around for a while but it was not until recently that I actually saw it installed and up and running...and I was very impressed. The local techs said that they had the system up and running in a morning and could mix the old and old equipment (telephones): https://www.3cx.com/

Quote:

3CX Phone System is a specialist, Debian-based Linux distribution designed to run a complete unified communications platform. The 3CX client, included in the distribution, can also be installed separately on most hardware as well as the Cloud. It provides a complete open standards-based IP PBX and phone system that works with popular SIP trunks and IP phones. It will automatically configure all supported peripherals and it also comes with clients for Windows, OS X, iOS and Android. The ISO image includes a free license for the 3CX PBX edition. The ISO images contain the standard Debian installer which installs a minimal system with the nginx web server, PostgreSQL database, iptables firewall and Secure Shell. Options not relevant to 3CX have been removed from the distribution. Download the installation ISO image from here: debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso (265MB):

http://downloads.3cx.com/downloads/3cxpbxiso/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso
http://bit.ly/2mskxhw

In addition, this software, at least the client part, runs on all platforms (and even the Cloud), supports multiple languages, has online and phone support across North America and Europe (from the US to Russia...Africa to Australia) and forums, documents and so on...

https://www.3cx.com/phone-system/3CXPhoneSystem_brochure.pdf

As it is basically, for a base, small installation, free and open source anyone can download and play with it and find out it is right for your clients.

Jim
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Mar 13 02:01:12 2017
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 07:01:12 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB11653CE6109CBBB3B7463B2ECA250@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

As I have mentioned several times, we use MAPS:

https://partner.microsoft.com/en-US/membership/action-pack

at about USD 500 per year to cover up to ten users for Windows 10 Enterprise and five for Office 2016 Pro and Office 365 E3 plus several server licenses. 
The 3CX runs in a VM on our main server.

That said, 3CX will run in all Windows versions down to the old Windows 7 SP1.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 13. marts 2017 05:32
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Gustav:

Hope you got a good deal on the Windows Server 2012 R2. (Last time I looked, it would have cost me in the 4K bracket, which is beyond my retired budget... ;-))  

It does sound like you have a very effective system. 

I did check and even though the product was built upon a Debian distro, the core 3CX is not OSS. For the fun of it, I downloaded and ran the ISO, but without doing any configuration (wouldn't know where to start without studying the docs) and it took less than 12 minutes, from a USB stick, to have a fully operational server in place, installed on the network...sweet. :-)

I may recommend this product, to a client, if the circumstances come up again...if you get some prank call from Canada about some 3CX problem, you will know where it comes from. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:36:09 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Jim

Yes, highly recommended. We've used it for the last two years, though running on Windows Server 2012 R2. In fact, it replaced our last Linux server running a Trixbox PBX based on Asterisk.

Indeed, if you operate in Europe, 3CX should be your first choice as it - contrary to Asterisk - truly understands European telcos and telephony standards. Besides, management is a breeze compared to the total mess of Asterisk and its derivations.

Further, if you grow out of the free version (1 trunk, 8 simultaneous calls), the system is in no way expensive.
However, open-source it isn't. It least I haven't seen anything stating this.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 10. marts 2017 21:22:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi All:

The 3CX Phone System is a boutique designed Linux distro for the sole purpose of managing an office phone system. It has a very small footprint, less than 512MB, counting extras and the databases, so the system can be added to a network via an older box or one with little resources...or even run from the Cloud. The distro has been around for a while but it was not until recently that I actually saw it installed and up and running...and I was very impressed. The local techs said that they had the system up and running in a morning and could mix the old and old equipment (telephones): https://www.3cx.com/

Quote:

3CX Phone System is a specialist, Debian-based Linux distribution designed to run a complete unified communications platform. The 3CX client, included in the distribution, can also be installed separately on most hardware as well as the Cloud. It provides a complete open standards-based IP PBX and phone system that works with popular SIP trunks and IP phones. It will automatically configure all supported peripherals and it also comes with clients for Windows, OS X, iOS and Android. The ISO image includes a free license for the 3CX PBX edition. The ISO images contain the standard Debian installer which installs a minimal system with the nginx web server, PostgreSQL database, iptables firewall and Secure Shell. Options not relevant to 3CX have been removed from the distribution. Download the installation ISO image from here: debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso (265MB):

http://downloads.3cx.com/downloads/3cxpbxiso/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso
http://bit.ly/2mskxhw

In addition, this software, at least the client part, runs on all platforms (and even the Cloud), supports multiple languages, has online and phone support across North America and Europe (from the US to Russia...Africa to Australia) and forums, documents and so on...

https://www.3cx.com/phone-system/3CXPhoneSystem_brochure.pdf

As it is basically, for a base, small installation, free and open source anyone can download and play with it and find out it is right for your clients.

Jim 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Mar 13 19:51:00 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 18:51:00 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB11653CE6109CBBB3B7463B2ECA250@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR06MB11653CE6109CBBB3B7463B2ECA250@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1598415308.89101393.1489452660160.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

That makes sense. We had a Technet account for years but upon retirement felt no need to pursue it. Well I guess any Windows product that can run a VM can run the package, as it appears, the foot-print is very small.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 12:01:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Jim

As I have mentioned several times, we use MAPS:

https://partner.microsoft.com/en-US/membership/action-pack

at about USD 500 per year to cover up to ten users for Windows 10 Enterprise and five for Office 2016 Pro and Office 365 E3 plus several server licenses. 
The 3CX runs in a VM on our main server.

That said, 3CX will run in all Windows versions down to the old Windows 7 SP1.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 13. marts 2017 05:32
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Gustav:

Hope you got a good deal on the Windows Server 2012 R2. (Last time I looked, it would have cost me in the 4K bracket, which is beyond my retired budget... ;-))  

It does sound like you have a very effective system. 

I did check and even though the product was built upon a Debian distro, the core 3CX is not OSS. For the fun of it, I downloaded and ran the ISO, but without doing any configuration (wouldn't know where to start without studying the docs) and it took less than 12 minutes, from a USB stick, to have a fully operational server in place, installed on the network...sweet. :-)

I may recommend this product, to a client, if the circumstances come up again...if you get some prank call from Canada about some 3CX problem, you will know where it comes from. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:36:09 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Jim

Yes, highly recommended. We've used it for the last two years, though running on Windows Server 2012 R2. In fact, it replaced our last Linux server running a Trixbox PBX based on Asterisk.

Indeed, if you operate in Europe, 3CX should be your first choice as it - contrary to Asterisk - truly understands European telcos and telephony standards. Besides, management is a breeze compared to the total mess of Asterisk and its derivations.

Further, if you grow out of the free version (1 trunk, 8 simultaneous calls), the system is in no way expensive.
However, open-source it isn't. It least I haven't seen anything stating this.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 10. marts 2017 21:22:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi All:

The 3CX Phone System is a boutique designed Linux distro for the sole purpose of managing an office phone system. It has a very small footprint, less than 512MB, counting extras and the databases, so the system can be added to a network via an older box or one with little resources...or even run from the Cloud. The distro has been around for a while but it was not until recently that I actually saw it installed and up and running...and I was very impressed. The local techs said that they had the system up and running in a morning and could mix the old and old equipment (telephones): https://www.3cx.com/

Quote:

3CX Phone System is a specialist, Debian-based Linux distribution designed to run a complete unified communications platform. The 3CX client, included in the distribution, can also be installed separately on most hardware as well as the Cloud. It provides a complete open standards-based IP PBX and phone system that works with popular SIP trunks and IP phones. It will automatically configure all supported peripherals and it also comes with clients for Windows, OS X, iOS and Android. The ISO image includes a free license for the 3CX PBX edition. The ISO images contain the standard Debian installer which installs a minimal system with the nginx web server, PostgreSQL database, iptables firewall and Secure Shell. Options not relevant to 3CX have been removed from the distribution. Download the installation ISO image from here: debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso (265MB):

http://downloads.3cx.com/downloads/3cxpbxiso/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso
http://bit.ly/2mskxhw

In addition, this software, at least the client part, runs on all platforms (and even the Cloud), supports multiple languages, has online and phone support across North America and Europe (from the US to Russia...Africa to Australia) and forums, documents and so on...

https://www.3cx.com/phone-system/3CXPhoneSystem_brochure.pdf

As it is basically, for a base, small installation, free and open source anyone can download and play with it and find out it is right for your clients.

Jim 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Mar 14 01:38:58 2017
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 06:38:58 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB1165509F58876CB2849D4B3ECA240@VI1PR06MB1165.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jim

You don't have to run 3CX in a VM. As you mentioned, an old reliable stand-alone box with Windows 7 - or with the Debian install - will do.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 14. marts 2017 01:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Gustav:

That makes sense. We had a Technet account for years but upon retirement felt no need to pursue it. Well I guess any Windows product that can run a VM can run the package, as it appears, the foot-print is very small.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 12:01:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Jim

As I have mentioned several times, we use MAPS:

https://partner.microsoft.com/en-US/membership/action-pack

at about USD 500 per year to cover up to ten users for Windows 10 Enterprise and five for Office 2016 Pro and Office 365 E3 plus several server licenses. 
The 3CX runs in a VM on our main server.

That said, 3CX will run in all Windows versions down to the old Windows 7 SP1.

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 13. marts 2017 05:32
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Gustav:

Hope you got a good deal on the Windows Server 2012 R2. (Last time I looked, it would have cost me in the 4K bracket, which is beyond my retired budget... ;-))  

It does sound like you have a very effective system. 

I did check and even though the product was built upon a Debian distro, the core 3CX is not OSS. For the fun of it, I downloaded and ran the ISO, but without doing any configuration (wouldn't know where to start without studying the docs) and it took less than 12 minutes, from a USB stick, to have a fully operational server in place, installed on the network...sweet. :-)

I may recommend this product, to a client, if the circumstances come up again...if you get some prank call from Canada about some 3CX problem, you will know where it comes from. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:36:09 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi Jim

Yes, highly recommended. We've used it for the last two years, though running on Windows Server 2012 R2. In fact, it replaced our last Linux server running a Trixbox PBX based on Asterisk.

Indeed, if you operate in Europe, 3CX should be your first choice as it - contrary to Asterisk - truly understands European telcos and telephony standards. Besides, management is a breeze compared to the total mess of Asterisk and its derivations.

Further, if you grow out of the free version (1 trunk, 8 simultaneous calls), the system is in no way expensive.
However, open-source it isn't. It least I haven't seen anything stating this.

/gustav
________________________________________
Fra: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> p? vegne af Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sendt: 10. marts 2017 21:22:51
Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Emne: [dba-Tech] 3CX phone system

Hi All:

The 3CX Phone System is a boutique designed Linux distro for the sole purpose of managing an office phone system. It has a very small footprint, less than 512MB, counting extras and the databases, so the system can be added to a network via an older box or one with little resources...or even run from the Cloud. The distro has been around for a while but it was not until recently that I actually saw it installed and up and running...and I was very impressed. The local techs said that they had the system up and running in a morning and could mix the old and old equipment (telephones): https://www.3cx.com/

Quote:

3CX Phone System is a specialist, Debian-based Linux distribution designed to run a complete unified communications platform. The 3CX client, included in the distribution, can also be installed separately on most hardware as well as the Cloud. It provides a complete open standards-based IP PBX and phone system that works with popular SIP trunks and IP phones. It will automatically configure all supported peripherals and it also comes with clients for Windows, OS X, iOS and Android. The ISO image includes a free license for the 3CX PBX edition. The ISO images contain the standard Debian installer which installs a minimal system with the nginx web server, PostgreSQL database, iptables firewall and Secure Shell. Options not relevant to 3CX have been removed from the distribution. Download the installation ISO image from here: debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso (265MB):

http://downloads.3cx.com/downloads/3cxpbxiso/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst-3cx.iso
http://bit.ly/2mskxhw

In addition, this software, at least the client part, runs on all platforms (and even the Cloud), supports multiple languages, has online and phone support across North America and Europe (from the US to Russia...Africa to Australia) and forums, documents and so on...

https://www.3cx.com/phone-system/3CXPhoneSystem_brochure.pdf

As it is basically, for a base, small installation, free and open source anyone can download and play with it and find out it is right for your clients.

Jim 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 08:40:41 2017
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:40:41 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] non-Exchange Outlook users
Message-ID: <02fe01d2a17f$91beba00$b53c2e00$@gmail.com>

How to folks not on Exchange sync their email accounts with Outlook 2016? 

 

I use Outlook 2016 and have an Office 365 E3 license. I am alone - I don't
have Exchange. I'm using a Windows 10 64-bit system, but I installed the
32-bit version. 

 

I recently purchased a new laptop and wanted to move my email accounts, and
tasks, calendar, and contact items to the new laptop, which it seems, you
can't easily do. I tried the pst route and that made a mess. I exported to a
data file and imported on the new system. I got my calendar items, but not
my contacts or tasks. Getting email has never been the problem - getting my
calendar, tasks, and contacts on the new laptop is the problem. 

 

So, next effort was to move to Mail and just dump Outlook 2016 desktop. It
will not work with my gmail accounts. I tried creating them manually too.. I
read this morning that Mail requires two-step authentication with g-mail
accounts. I originally had that but removed it during the initial move - I
think. I started down this road a few weeks ago and I can't remember what
all I've tried and what hasn't worked. I don't want to set that all up again
for all three accounts if it doesn't really matter or if there's an easier
way. 

 

Susan H.  


From bheid at sc.rr.com  Mon Mar 20 18:58:53 2017
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:58:53 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] non-Exchange Outlook users
In-Reply-To: <02fe01d2a17f$91beba00$b53c2e00$@gmail.com>
References: <02fe01d2a17f$91beba00$b53c2e00$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004401d2a1d5$edf8feb0$c9eafc10$@sc.rr.com>

Hi Susan,

I just moved from Outlook 2013 on one PC (Win 7) to Outlook 2016 on another
PC (Win 10).  I don't remember all of the details, but basically, I exported
my rules and then copied the rules file and the PST files to the new PC.
Then I opened the PST files in Outlook 2016 and imported my rules.  I do
think I had to recreate the accounts on the new PC though.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:41 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] non-Exchange Outlook users

How to folks not on Exchange sync their email accounts with Outlook 2016? 

 

I use Outlook 2016 and have an Office 365 E3 license. I am alone - I don't
have Exchange. I'm using a Windows 10 64-bit system, but I installed the
32-bit version. 

 

I recently purchased a new laptop and wanted to move my email accounts, and
tasks, calendar, and contact items to the new laptop, which it seems, you
can't easily do. I tried the pst route and that made a mess. I exported to a
data file and imported on the new system. I got my calendar items, but not
my contacts or tasks. Getting email has never been the problem - getting my
calendar, tasks, and contacts on the new laptop is the problem. 

 

So, next effort was to move to Mail and just dump Outlook 2016 desktop. It
will not work with my gmail accounts. I tried creating them manually too.. I
read this morning that Mail requires two-step authentication with g-mail
accounts. I originally had that but removed it during the initial move - I
think. I started down this road a few weeks ago and I can't remember what
all I've tried and what hasn't worked. I don't want to set that all up again
for all three accounts if it doesn't really matter or if there's an easier
way. 

 

Susan H.  

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 19:10:08 2017
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:10:08 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] non-Exchange Outlook users
In-Reply-To: <004401d2a1d5$edf8feb0$c9eafc10$@sc.rr.com>
References: <02fe01d2a17f$91beba00$b53c2e00$@gmail.com>
	<004401d2a1d5$edf8feb0$c9eafc10$@sc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <007f01d2a1d7$80903260$81b09720$@gmail.com>

Right now, I'm trying to go the Mail 365 route. After two hours, Mail is still importing messages I didn't know I still had. They didn't show up in gmail, so I don't know where they've been hanging out. ? What a mess. So far, I've deleted about 20,000 messages. They're still coming in. What a mess. 

But, the key was to turn on 2-step verification for my gmail accounts. I have three accounts, so this is going to be tedious. 

Once I'm good with the email, I'll try to connect with the calendar, tasks, and contacts. 

I think moving to a new system should be easier, but Outlook 2016 on the new laptop is a mess... and I never could get my contacts. Reading still a bit and it looks like exporting a cvs file instead of pst might have done a better job. I might follow up later, just to see. I wish I had experimented with it earlier, but everything I read kept saying to use a pst file. 

Susan H. 


Hi Susan,

I just moved from Outlook 2013 on one PC (Win 7) to Outlook 2016 on another PC (Win 10).  I don't remember all of the details, but basically, I exported my rules and then copied the rules file and the PST files to the new PC.
Then I opened the PST files in Outlook 2016 and imported my rules.  I do think I had to recreate the accounts on the new PC though.





From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Tue Mar 21 09:40:56 2017
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:40:56 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] non-Exchange Outlook users
In-Reply-To: <007f01d2a1d7$80903260$81b09720$@gmail.com>
References: <02fe01d2a17f$91beba00$b53c2e00$@gmail.com>
	<004401d2a1d5$edf8feb0$c9eafc10$@sc.rr.com>
	<007f01d2a1d7$80903260$81b09720$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <58578c7b-a000-303f-d08f-023c72720825@torchlake.com>

Susan,

I am following your adventure on this just because I get asked questions 
like this and I so seldom use Outlook that I have to go look things up 
always. Thank you for keeping us all apprised.

T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 03/20/17 8:10 PM, Susan Harkins wrote:
> Right now, I'm trying to go the Mail 365 route. After two hours, Mail is still importing messages I didn't know I still had. They didn't show up in gmail, so I don't know where they've been hanging out. ? What a mess. So far, I've deleted about 20,000 messages. They're still coming in. What a mess.
>
> But, the key was to turn on 2-step verification for my gmail accounts. I have three accounts, so this is going to be tedious.
>
> Once I'm good with the email, I'll try to connect with the calendar, tasks, and contacts.
>
> I think moving to a new system should be easier, but Outlook 2016 on the new laptop is a mess... and I never could get my contacts. Reading still a bit and it looks like exporting a cvs file instead of pst might have done a better job. I might follow up later, just to see. I wish I had experimented with it earlier, but everything I read kept saying to use a pst file.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
> Hi Susan,
>
> I just moved from Outlook 2013 on one PC (Win 7) to Outlook 2016 on another PC (Win 10).  I don't remember all of the details, but basically, I exported my rules and then copied the rules file and the PST files to the new PC.
> Then I opened the PST files in Outlook 2016 and imported my rules.  I do think I had to recreate the accounts on the new PC though.
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Mar 24 09:09:21 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:09:21 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Tor
Message-ID: <01a801d2a4a8$3c8732c0$b5959840$@bchacc.com>

Does anyone have any experience with Tor?  What is it?  What does it do? Is
it effective?

 

TIA

 

Rocky

 


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Mar 25 06:45:59 2017
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (ssharkins at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:45:59 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] non-Exchange Outlook users
In-Reply-To: <58578c7b-a000-303f-d08f-023c72720825@torchlake.com>
References: <02fe01d2a17f$91beba00$b53c2e00$@gmail.com>
	<004401d2a1d5$edf8feb0$c9eafc10$@sc.rr.com>
	<007f01d2a1d7$80903260$81b09720$@gmail.com>,
	<58578c7b-a000-303f-d08f-023c72720825@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <BLUPR15MB0273B457BE5757FE056632F8CB310@BLUPR15MB0273.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>


Alan, thanks for the link you sent. Tina... things are well for this morning.

I don't know if I'm still banned but nothing's bouncing this morning. I have no clue what generated that and why it has seemingly resolved itself.


I am using 365 for ssharkins at gmail.com. It has made my onmicrosoft.com account the default, so I would like to change that, but otherwise, all is well for now. With a little time (two days), everything just started working as expected. I still have two accounts I need to pull into 365. I hope it goes smoother than the first experience.


My contacts are available, but I can't find them in the Contacts window anywhere. When I create an email, they are in the AutoComplete list -- visible, so they are there and I have access to them.


Calendar and Tasks never made it over but they are easily recreated.


Susan H.

________________________________
From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of Tina Norris Fields <tinanfields at torchlake.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40:56 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] non-Exchange Outlook users

Susan,

I am following your adventure on this just because I get asked questions
like this and I so seldom use Outlook that I have to go look things up
always. Thank you for keeping us all apprised.

T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 03/20/17 8:10 PM, Susan Harkins wrote:
> Right now, I'm trying to go the Mail 365 route. After two hours, Mail is still importing messages I didn't know I still had. They didn't show up in gmail, so I don't know where they've been hanging out. ? What a mess. So far, I've deleted about 20,000 messages. They're still coming in. What a mess.
>
> But, the key was to turn on 2-step verification for my gmail accounts. I have three accounts, so this is going to be tedious.
>
> Once I'm good with the email, I'll try to connect with the calendar, tasks, and contacts.
>
> I think moving to a new system should be easier, but Outlook 2016 on the new laptop is a mess... and I never could get my contacts. Reading still a bit and it looks like exporting a cvs file instead of pst might have done a better job. I might follow up later, just to see. I wish I had experimented with it earlier, but everything I read kept saying to use a pst file.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
> Hi Susan,
>
> I just moved from Outlook 2013 on one PC (Win 7) to Outlook 2016 on another PC (Win 10).  I don't remember all of the details, but basically, I exported my rules and then copied the rules file and the PST files to the new PC.
> Then I opened the PST files in Outlook 2016 and imported my rules.  I do think I had to recreate the accounts on the new PC though.
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Mar 29 20:04:46 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:04:46 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
Message-ID: <002201d2a8f1$9fb6d5b0$df248110$@bchacc.com>

List(s):

 

I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with stuff on
the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, foolproof, doesn't
require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, etc. I want transparent,
intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning curve, and then disappears
into the background and doesn't bother me every 3 hours for some problem.

 

Is there such a thing?

 

TIA

 

R


From fahooper at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 06:29:30 2017
From: fahooper at gmail.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:29:30 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <002201d2a8f1$9fb6d5b0$df248110$@bchacc.com>
References: <002201d2a8f1$9fb6d5b0$df248110$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <58DCEC1A.7050007@gmail.com>

I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN 
(who provide free software for some routers) and followed their link to 
FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of course, 
you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these vary in 
price, speed and reliability.

My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I 
quickly get annoyed.

Best,
Fred
> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:04 PM
> List(s):
>
>
>
> I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with 
> stuff on
> the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, foolproof, 
> doesn't
> require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, etc. I want transparent,
> intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning curve, and then disappears
> into the background and doesn't bother me every 3 hours for some problem.
>
>
>
> Is there such a thing?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> R
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Mar 30 09:57:53 2017
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:57:53 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <58DCEC1A.7050007@gmail.com>
References: <002201d2a8f1$9fb6d5b0$df248110$@bchacc.com>
	<58DCEC1A.7050007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008801d2a966$02655780$07300680$@bchacc.com>

", you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes," What does that
mean?  Is there a 'turnkey
 Solution for folks like me who don't know anything about VPN and don't
really want to?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Fred Hooper
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations

I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN (who
provide free software for some routers) and followed their link to
FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of course,
you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these vary in
price, speed and reliability.

My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I quickly
get annoyed.

Best,
Fred
> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 
> 9:04 PM
> List(s):
>
>
>
> I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with 
> stuff on the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, 
> foolproof, doesn't require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, 
> etc. I want transparent, intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning 
> curve, and then disappears into the background and doesn't bother me 
> every 3 hours for some problem.
>
>
>
> Is there such a thing?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> R
>
> _______________________________________________
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From fahooper at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 14:57:48 2017
From: fahooper at gmail.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:57:48 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <008801d2a966$02655780$07300680$@bchacc.com>
References: <002201d2a8f1$9fb6d5b0$df248110$@bchacc.com>
	<58DCEC1A.7050007@gmail.com>
	<008801d2a966$02655780$07300680$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <58DD633C.9000907@gmail.com>

A VPN is an "encrypted tunnel" between two points. Your local end is 
software either on a computer (PC or phone) or on a router. The "exit 
node" is a computer elsewhere in the world. In between your connection 
is noise. When your connection leaves the VPN it becomes visible -- 
generally, you can choose where this is. I usually use New York, 
assuming I'll be lost in the clutter.

That exit node has to be provided and maintained by someone, which is 
why there's a charge for a VPN. The faster the connection the more 
robust (and expensive) that node has to be.

A router with active VPN software encrypts everything going though it 
without the user taking any actions; that's as close to turnkey as it 
gets -- but you'll have to buy a router that's already prepared to make 
it turnkey. Note that this only protects you when you're working through 
the router. If you're at Starbucks you're not protected unless you've 
installed and use VPN software; this will come with a VPN subscription.

Fred
> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:57 AM
> ", you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes," What does 
> that
> mean? Is there a 'turnkey
> Solution for folks like me who don't know anything about VPN and don't
> really want to?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Fred Hooper
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>
> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN (who
> provide free software for some routers) and followed their link to
> FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of course,
> you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these vary in
> price, speed and reliability.
>
> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I quickly
> get annoyed.
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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>
> Fred Hooper <mailto:fahooper at gmail.com>
> Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:29 AM
> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN 
> (who provide free software for some routers) and followed their link 
> to FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of 
> course, you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these 
> vary in price, speed and reliability.
>
> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I 
> quickly get annoyed.
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:04 PM
> List(s):
>
>
>
> I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with 
> stuff on
> the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, foolproof, 
> doesn't
> require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, etc. I want transparent,
> intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning curve, and then disappears
> into the background and doesn't bother me every 3 hours for some problem.
>
>
>
> Is there such a thing?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> R
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 31 14:30:19 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 13:30:19 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Stackoverflow stats
In-Reply-To: <1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <DB6PR0601MB219893E9CFBC5A2533C17ABFCA760@DB6PR0601MB2198.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<1485374635.27194082.1487883924393.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1921116657.43203989.1488322576904.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1540869786.78867775.1489177371632.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1331121119.41831924.1490988619790.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Every year Stackoverflow puts out a developer survey showing the developer's trends. 

This is unlike a general computer use stats as it is not focused on computers as a whole, only the computer industry as related to developers. This means that trends displayed here are the future of the world of computers...one to five years ahead.

Here is a link to the whole report:
https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017/#technology-platforms
http://bit.ly/2nrHf9d

Here is a link to the section on the trends developer languages and platforms:
https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017/#technology-languages-over-time
http://bit.ly/2nrHYqR

A few interesting take-aways from the trends are as follows. One, the three languages that are steadily growing are; JavaScript, Python and NodeJS. 
Two, the most loved language in their order of preference, the top five, from top to bottom are; Rust (73.1%), Smalltalk (67.0%), TypeScript (64.1%), Swift (63.9%) and Go (63.3%). 
Three, the top five most loved Frameworks and libraries, again in order of preference are; React (66.9%), Node.js (62.1%), .NET Core (60.9%), Spark (60.1%) and Firebase (52.9%).
Four, the top five databases, again, in order of preference are; Redis (64.8%), PostgreSQL (60.8%), MongoDB (55.0%), SQL Server (54.2%) and Cassandra (49.9%)
Five, the top five development platforms, again, in order of preference are; Linux Desktop (69.6%), Serverless (66.3%), Amazon Web Services (AWS) (65.2%), Raspberry Pi (65.2%) and Mac OS (62.3%).

To say this surprises me is an understatement. It is apparent that the industry has evolved significantly since I was an active developer. Does anyone else find these statistics interesting? Has anyone here programmed in Rust, used the framework/library React, the database Redis or done any major development on Serverless (AWS)?   

Jim

From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 31 18:28:14 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 17:28:14 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <58DD633C.9000907@gmail.com>
References: <002201d2a8f1$9fb6d5b0$df248110$@bchacc.com>
	<58DCEC1A.7050007@gmail.com>
	<008801d2a966$02655780$07300680$@bchacc.com>
	<58DD633C.9000907@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1748988523.42532792.1491002894299.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>



----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Hooper" <fahooper at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:57:48 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations

A VPN is an "encrypted tunnel" between two points. Your local end is 
software either on a computer (PC or phone) or on a router. The "exit 
node" is a computer elsewhere in the world. In between your connection 
is noise. When your connection leaves the VPN it becomes visible -- 
generally, you can choose where this is. I usually use New York, 
assuming I'll be lost in the clutter.

That exit node has to be provided and maintained by someone, which is 
why there's a charge for a VPN. The faster the connection the more 
robust (and expensive) that node has to be.

A router with active VPN software encrypts everything going though it 
without the user taking any actions; that's as close to turnkey as it 
gets -- but you'll have to buy a router that's already prepared to make 
it turnkey. Note that this only protects you when you're working through 
the router. If you're at Starbucks you're not protected unless you've 
installed and use VPN software; this will come with a VPN subscription.

Fred
> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:57 AM
> ", you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes," What does 
> that
> mean? Is there a 'turnkey
> Solution for folks like me who don't know anything about VPN and don't
> really want to?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Fred Hooper
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>
> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN (who
> provide free software for some routers) and followed their link to
> FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of course,
> you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these vary in
> price, speed and reliability.
>
> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I quickly
> get annoyed.
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> Fred Hooper <mailto:fahooper at gmail.com>
> Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:29 AM
> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN 
> (who provide free software for some routers) and followed their link 
> to FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of 
> course, you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these 
> vary in price, speed and reliability.
>
> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I 
> quickly get annoyed.
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:04 PM
> List(s):
>
>
>
> I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with 
> stuff on
> the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, foolproof, 
> doesn't
> require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, etc. I want transparent,
> intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning curve, and then disappears
> into the background and doesn't bother me every 3 hours for some problem.
>
>
>
> Is there such a thing?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> R
>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Mar 31 19:04:19 2017
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 18:04:19 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <58DD633C.9000907@gmail.com>
References: <002201d2a8f1$9fb6d5b0$df248110$@bchacc.com>
	<58DCEC1A.7050007@gmail.com>
	<008801d2a966$02655780$07300680$@bchacc.com>
	<58DD633C.9000907@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2090766173.42622156.1491005059432.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Fred and Rocky:

The price per VPN, is between $30 and $60 per year. 

Here is one of the most popular VPN service providers: https://nordvpn.com/

I also use SSH, related tools and a package like OpenVPN to connect with friends and businesses I deal with on a regular bases. My mutual fund adviser sends all my updates through a SSH mail service. The banks similar and now my doctor is extending an encrypted service to his clients which he has been using for a few years to communicate with his fellow physicians. With the help of my SiL, we just ran up a new version of NextCloud so our family could transfer pictures of the families back and forth without having to access some public Cloud. 

My SiL has completed a system which allows all the family members, who have web sites, to upload to a private Git, which automatically compiles the updated site into a Container, then exports the Container, to my Apache server. This means that someone may be able to hack into the website, but changes possible will be minimal, actual specs will be obscured and "island-hopping" is impossible as each site is completely isolated. (The whole system runs on a Raspberry Pi). I should get and post the scripts used to create the infrastructure...that of course is, if anyone is interested.     

I think in the near future this may become the way of using the internet. I don't think it paranoid, it is just like wearing a seat-belt or pulling the blinds when dressing as no one needs or wants to see that. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Hooper" <fahooper at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:57:48 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations

A VPN is an "encrypted tunnel" between two points. Your local end is 
software either on a computer (PC or phone) or on a router. The "exit 
node" is a computer elsewhere in the world. In between your connection 
is noise. When your connection leaves the VPN it becomes visible -- 
generally, you can choose where this is. I usually use New York, 
assuming I'll be lost in the clutter.

That exit node has to be provided and maintained by someone, which is 
why there's a charge for a VPN. The faster the connection the more 
robust (and expensive) that node has to be.

A router with active VPN software encrypts everything going though it 
without the user taking any actions; that's as close to turnkey as it 
gets -- but you'll have to buy a router that's already prepared to make 
it turnkey. Note that this only protects you when you're working through 
the router. If you're at Starbucks you're not protected unless you've 
installed and use VPN software; this will come with a VPN subscription.

Fred
> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:57 AM
> ", you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes," What does 
> that
> mean? Is there a 'turnkey
> Solution for folks like me who don't know anything about VPN and don't
> really want to?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Fred Hooper
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>
> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN (who
> provide free software for some routers) and followed their link to
> FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of course,
> you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these vary in
> price, speed and reliability.
>
> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I quickly
> get annoyed.
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
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> Fred Hooper <mailto:fahooper at gmail.com>
> Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:29 AM
> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN 
> (who provide free software for some routers) and followed their link 
> to FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of 
> course, you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these 
> vary in price, speed and reliability.
>
> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I 
> quickly get annoyed.
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:04 PM
> List(s):
>
>
>
> I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with 
> stuff on
> the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, foolproof, 
> doesn't
> require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, etc. I want transparent,
> intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning curve, and then disappears
> into the background and doesn't bother me every 3 hours for some problem.
>
>
>
> Is there such a thing?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> R
>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Fri Mar 31 22:02:25 2017
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 22:02:25 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
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On 3/31/2017 19:04, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Fred and Rocky:
>
> The price per VPN, is between $30 and $60 per year.
>
> Here is one of the most popular VPN service providers: https://nordvpn.com/
>
> I also use SSH, related tools and a package like OpenVPN to connect with friends and businesses I deal with on a regular bases. My mutual fund adviser sends all my updates through a SSH mail service. The banks similar and now my doctor is extending an encrypted service to his clients which he has been using for a few years to communicate with his fellow physicians. With the help of my SiL, we just ran up a new version of NextCloud so our family could transfer pictures of the families back and forth without having to access some public Cloud.
>
> My SiL has completed a system which allows all the family members, who have web sites, to upload to a private Git, which automatically compiles the updated site into a Container, then exports the Container, to my Apache server. This means that someone may be able to hack into the website, but changes possible will be minimal, actual specs will be obscured and "island-hopping" is impossible as each site is completely isolated. (The whole system runs on a Raspberry Pi). I should get and post the scripts used to create the infrastructure...that of course is, if anyone is interested.

I'm interested, I'd appreciate it very much.

PB
>
> I think in the near future this may become the way of using the internet. I don't think it paranoid, it is just like wearing a seat-belt or pulling the blinds when dressing as no one needs or wants to see that. ;-)
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Hooper" <fahooper at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:57:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>
> A VPN is an "encrypted tunnel" between two points. Your local end is
> software either on a computer (PC or phone) or on a router. The "exit
> node" is a computer elsewhere in the world. In between your connection
> is noise. When your connection leaves the VPN it becomes visible --
> generally, you can choose where this is. I usually use New York,
> assuming I'll be lost in the clutter.
>
> That exit node has to be provided and maintained by someone, which is
> why there's a charge for a VPN. The faster the connection the more
> robust (and expensive) that node has to be.
>
> A router with active VPN software encrypts everything going though it
> without the user taking any actions; that's as close to turnkey as it
> gets -- but you'll have to buy a router that's already prepared to make
> it turnkey. Note that this only protects you when you're working through
> the router. If you're at Starbucks you're not protected unless you've
> installed and use VPN software; this will come with a VPN subscription.
>
> Fred
>> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:57 AM
>> ", you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes," What does
>> that
>> mean? Is there a 'turnkey
>> Solution for folks like me who don't know anything about VPN and don't
>> really want to?
>>
>> R
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>> Fred Hooper
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN Recommendations
>>
>> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN (who
>> provide free software for some routers) and followed their link to
>> FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of course,
>> you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these vary in
>> price, speed and reliability.
>>
>> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I quickly
>> get annoyed.
>>
>> Best,
>> Fred
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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>>
>> Fred Hooper <mailto:fahooper at gmail.com>
>> Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:29 AM
>> I've just been looking at routers with VPN. I started with ExpressVPN
>> (who provide free software for some routers) and followed their link
>> to FlashRouters, who supply routers with VPN already installed. Of
>> course, you'll still need to find a supplier for the exit nodes, these
>> vary in price, speed and reliability.
>>
>> My experience with free VPNs is that they throttle the speed and I
>> quickly get annoyed.
>>
>> Best,
>> Fred
>>
>> Rocky Smolin <mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:04 PM
>> List(s):
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm thinking about doing a VPN but I don't like fooling around with
>> stuff on
>> the computer any more - so I want something that's easy, foolproof,
>> doesn't
>> require, knowledge, tweaking, consulting forums, etc. I want transparent,
>> intuitive, free (if possible), steep learning curve, and then disappears
>> into the background and doesn't bother me every 3 hours for some problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there such a thing?
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> R
>>
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>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
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