From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Mar 4 12:24:58 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 13:24:58 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Message-ID: Hi All, My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require? registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? Thanks, T -- Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 13:33:35 2018 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 14:33:35 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and troubleshoot. Susan H. Hi All, My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? Thanks, T -- Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Mar 4 13:53:14 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 14:53:14 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points reported in the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one on Mar 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the drivers (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install them. This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of what looks like a chip on its side. The next line is: The system cannot find the file specified. Right now, I'm baffled. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and troubleshoot. > > Susan H. > > > Hi All, > > My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. > > Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. > Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. > > I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. > > Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. > > Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: > nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. > > Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? > > Thanks, > T > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hkotsch at arcor.de Sun Mar 4 14:07:46 2018 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 21:07:46 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <001201d3b3f4$779b60a0$66d221e0$@de> Did you try to run these commands from the DOS window ? 1) SFC /scannow 2) Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth /source:wim:D:\sources\install.wim:1 /limitaccess D: = Mounted ISO image of the Win10 InstallDisk Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Tina N Fields Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 20:53 An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points reported in the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one on Mar 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the drivers (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install them. This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of what looks like a chip on its side. The next line is: The system cannot find the file specified. Right now, I'm baffled. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and troubleshoot. > > Susan H. > > > Hi All, > > My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. > > Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. > Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. > > I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. > > Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. > > Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: > nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. > > Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? > > Thanks, > T > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Mar 4 14:30:06 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 15:30:06 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <001201d3b3f4$779b60a0$66d221e0$@de> References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> <001201d3b3f4$779b60a0$66d221e0$@de> Message-ID: Helmut, Thank you. No, I did not run these commands. I do not think she has an ISO Image of the Win10 InstallDisk. Where can I get one? Thanks, T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 3:07 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Did you try to run these commands from the DOS window ? > > 1) SFC /scannow > > 2) Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth > /source:wim:D:\sources\install.wim:1 /limitaccess > > D: = Mounted ISO image of the Win10 InstallDisk > > Helmut > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von > Tina N Fields > Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 20:53 > An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points reported in > the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? > > Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one on Mar > 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. > > So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the drivers > (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: > > Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while > attempting to install them. > > This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of what looks > like a chip on its side. > > The next line is: > > The system cannot find the file specified. > > Right now, I'm baffled. > > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: >> Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and > troubleshoot. >> Susan H. >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >> >> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it > no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >> >> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that > is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries > are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have > been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the > mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, > but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech > support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete > the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells > me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does > anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some > recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this > mouse was relying on. >> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is > powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked > - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've > tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That > works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get > another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >> >> Thanks, >> T >> >> -- >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hkotsch at arcor.de Sun Mar 4 15:17:42 2018 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 22:17:42 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> <001201d3b3f4$779b60a0$66d221e0$@de> Message-ID: <001301d3b3fe$3c538d10$b4faa730$@de> Tina, You can get it from Microsoft. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 H -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Tina N Fields Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 21:30 An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Helmut, Thank you. No, I did not run these commands. I do not think she has an ISO Image of the Win10 InstallDisk. Where can I get one? Thanks, T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 3:07 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Did you try to run these commands from the DOS window ? > > 1) SFC /scannow > > 2) Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth > /source:wim:D:\sources\install.wim:1 /limitaccess > > D: = Mounted ISO image of the Win10 InstallDisk > > Helmut > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im > Auftrag von Tina N Fields > Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 20:53 > An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points > reported in the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? > > Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one > on Mar 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. > > So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the > drivers (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: > > Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while > attempting to install them. > > This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of what > looks like a chip on its side. > > The next line is: > > The system cannot find the file specified. > > Right now, I'm baffled. > > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: >> Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and > troubleshoot. >> Susan H. >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >> >> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. >> Suddenly, it > no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >> >> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature >> that > is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver >> entries > are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no > drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated > drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have > the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm > not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any > drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the > USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set > up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience > with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update > broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is > powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had > looked > - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. > I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That > works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get > another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >> >> Thanks, >> T >> >> -- >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Mar 4 15:52:09 2018 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 13:52:09 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi All, My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? Thanks, T -- Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Mar 4 20:00:08 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 19:00:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Building a Active Directory on Samba In-Reply-To: <1529309161.341101031.1519716232360.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <1781618708.299343792.1518462743863.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <1529309161.341101031.1519716232360.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <84815839.358456848.1520215208950.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi All: For those of you who have knowledge assembling LDAP (Lightweight Directory Access Protocol) system in both a Windows (Active-Directory) and Linux network severs but wish to integrate and control an extended network with multiple operating systems, here is a extensive document on how to deploy such a network using the universal SAMBA protocol. When SAMBA was originally developed, it was used as a network printing protocol but it has evolved far beyond its initial design. SAMBA works well on Windows networks along with Active Directory but it is capable of replacing AD all together and can manage large clustered and remote servers. Below is a full series of how to use SAMBA 4 to create an Active Directory Infrastructure. https://www.tecmint.com/install-samba4-active-directory-ubuntu/ http://bit.ly/2FSqOg1 Note: In the article it specifies a particular version(s) of Ubuntu but in reality virtual any distribution of Linux (or Windows) is just fine. Much of the documentation can be used in taking Redhat certification, if so desired. Jim From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Mar 5 09:42:29 2018 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:42:29 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] FW: Wedge Bar Code Scanners In-Reply-To: References: <008e01d3a74c$ef63e210$ce2ba630$@bchacc.com> <001501d3a763$8a4ab8b0$9ee02a10$@bchacc.com> <004201d3a781$92dad0f0$b89072d0$@bchacc.com> Message-ID: <002c01d3b498$91d17b90$b57472b0$@bchacc.com> Dear Lists: A client of mine with who I am working long distance, needs a bar code scanner to deliver bar code data to the app I wrote for him. In the past I recommended to clients who needed bar code scanning to use the 'wedge' approach as to the app the scanned code looked like it was coming from the keyboard, so no additional development or testing was required on my part. Just click into the appropriate text box and walla! The code would appear there. He's looking to me to recommend a scanner. Most of them now are straight USB, many Bluetooth. What I don't know is, when you are using a scanner plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go? I think I could probably figure this out if I had the scanner here and some of his bar codes. But maybe that would be unnecessary. So when plugged into a USB port, where does the scanned data go? Does the app have to poll the port for data? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 760-683-5777 www.bchacc.com www.e-z-mrp.com Skype: rocky.smolin From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:32 AM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners Can you point me to the one I need to purchase? Does it come with a dongle for the Bluetooth? Thanks, Mark From: Rocky Smolin [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:55 PM To: Mark Carey Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners That one may not work for you Mark. It's for POS/Android/IOS/Imac/Ipad. You need something that's Windows compatible. The specs say "It also can work with PC. If you don't know how connect with your PC, please contact seller for driver which can help you connect scanner with your PC easyly." So that might not be so straightforward. There's another one on the page https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Barcode-Scanner-Handheld-Automatic/dp/B006 LVO56W/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8 &qid=1518824795&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&psc=1 which is wired but specifies that it reads the most common bar code types: "Supports a wide range of barcodes types: UPC/EAN, UCC/EAN 128, Code 39, Code 39 Full ASCII, Trioptic Code 39, Code 128, Code 128 Full ASCII, Codabar, Interleaved 2 of 5, Discrete 2 of 5, Code 93, MSI, Code 11, RSS variants, Chinese 2 of 5" And is plug and play with any USB port. Might be a better choice. If the cable is too short you can get a USB extension cord - male on one end, female on the other. R From: Mark Carey [mailto:m.carey at imcfab.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:20 PM To: Rocky Smolin Subject: RE: Wedge Bar Code Scanners I got the one with link below. $79.00 https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akeyboard+wedge+barcode +scanner &page=2&keywords=keyboard+wedge+barcode+scanner&ie=UTF8&qid=1518802361 From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Mar 5 10:01:19 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:01:19 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <001301d3b3fe$3c538d10$b4faa730$@de> References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> <001201d3b3f4$779b60a0$66d221e0$@de> <001301d3b3fe$3c538d10$b4faa730$@de> Message-ID: <615df9b8-60b6-627f-8834-e7f56aa7e54a@torchlake.com> Helmut, this requires me to be licensed to install Windows 10. I am not so licensed. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 4:17 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Tina, > You can get it from Microsoft. > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 > > H > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Tina N Fields > Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 21:30 > An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Helmut, > > Thank you. No, I did not run these commands. > > I do not think she has an ISO Image of the Win10 InstallDisk. > > Where can I get one? > > Thanks, > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/4/2018 3:07 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: >> Did you try to run these commands from the DOS window ? >> >> 1) SFC /scannow >> >> 2) Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth >> /source:wim:D:\sources\install.wim:1 /limitaccess >> >> D: = Mounted ISO image of the Win10 InstallDisk >> >> Helmut >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im >> Auftrag von Tina N Fields >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 20:53 >> An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points >> reported in the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? >> >> Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one >> on Mar 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. >> >> So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the >> drivers (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: >> >> Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while >> attempting to install them. >> >> This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of what >> looks like a chip on its side. >> >> The next line is: >> >> The system cannot find the file specified. >> >> Right now, I'm baffled. >> >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: >>> Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and >> troubleshoot. >>> Susan H. >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >>> >>> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. >>> Suddenly, it >> no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >>> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >>> >>> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature >>> that >> is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >>> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver >>> entries >> are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no >> drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated >> drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have >> the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm >> not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any >> drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the >> USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set >> up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience >> with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update >> broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >>> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is >> powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had >> looked >> - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. >> I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >>> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That >> works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get >> another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >>> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> T >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Norris Fields >>> 231-322-2787 >>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Mar 5 10:06:09 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 09:06:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <2119264205.359800122.1520265969571.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi Tina: Have you called Microsoft yet. I think MS has changed their policies and now seem to be very helpful with little or no additional charges. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 11:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points reported in the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one on Mar 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the drivers (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install them. This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of what looks like a chip on its side. The next line is: The system cannot find the file specified. Right now, I'm baffled. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and troubleshoot. > > Susan H. > > > Hi All, > > My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. > > Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. > Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. > > I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. > > Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. > > Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: > nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. > > Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? > > Thanks, > T > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com Mon Mar 5 10:13:02 2018 From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 16:13:02 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <615df9b8-60b6-627f-8834-e7f56aa7e54a@torchlake.com> References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> <001201d3b3f4$779b60a0$66d221e0$@de> <001301d3b3fe$3c538d10$b4faa730$@de> <615df9b8-60b6-627f-8834-e7f56aa7e54a@torchlake.com> Message-ID: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 The problem machine already has a license, so it will be able to make use of the MS ISO file. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 11:01 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Helmut, this requires me to be licensed to install Windows 10. I am not so licensed. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 4:17 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Tina, > You can get it from Microsoft. > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.microsoft.com > _en-2Dus_software-2Ddownload_windows10&d=DwIGaQ&c=kn4_INW_mBCDHV_xJEVJ > kg&r=NUDA7itlGG5eK_c8Qt26IpbEaYCCn4Oe9ai3MUHhjq8&m=irjXVOQSAM6VL-m2oXa > r2-E5WDNFPqzC2ovA83o_LgE&s=LA88HMPuJYaxbDJyWeuQLCBMXzzu2RV_HZDERYXxNdM > &e= > > H > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im > Auftrag von Tina N Fields > Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 21:30 > An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Helmut, > > Thank you. No, I did not run these commands. > > I do not think she has an ISO Image of the Win10 InstallDisk. > > Where can I get one? > > Thanks, > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/4/2018 3:07 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: >> Did you try to run these commands from the DOS window ? >> >> 1) SFC /scannow >> >> 2) Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth >> /source:wim:D:\sources\install.wim:1 /limitaccess >> >> D: = Mounted ISO image of the Win10 InstallDisk >> >> Helmut >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im >> Auftrag von Tina N Fields >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 20:53 >> An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points >> reported in the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? >> >> Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one >> on Mar 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. >> >> So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the >> drivers (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: >> >> Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while >> attempting to install them. >> >> This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of >> what looks like a chip on its side. >> >> The next line is: >> >> The system cannot find the file specified. >> >> Right now, I'm baffled. >> >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: >>> Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and >> troubleshoot. >>> Susan H. >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >>> >>> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. >>> Suddenly, it >> no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >>> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >>> >>> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature >>> that >> is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >>> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver >>> entries >> are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no >> drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for >> updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim >> to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment >> - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide >> any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert >> the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being >> set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have >> experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent >> Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >>> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is >> powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had >> looked >> - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. >> I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >>> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. >>> That >> works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to >> get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >>> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> T >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Norris Fields >>> 231-322-2787 >>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__databaseadvisors >>> .com_mailman_listinfo_dba-2Dtech&d=DwIGaQ&c=kn4_INW_mBCDHV_xJEVJkg&r >>> =NUDA7itlGG5eK_c8Qt26IpbEaYCCn4Oe9ai3MUHhjq8&m=irjXVOQSAM6VL-m2oXar2 >>> -E5WDNFPqzC2ovA83o_LgE&s=eAzOdirs_ldOW0q2Xl8EwAEEC3C1EEtaguoJ_RoSLOE >>> &e= >>> Website: >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.databaseadvi >>> sors.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=kn4_INW_mBCDHV_xJEVJkg&r=NUDA7itlGG5eK_c8Qt26Ipb >>> EaYCCn4Oe9ai3MUHhjq8&m=irjXVOQSAM6VL-m2oXar2-E5WDNFPqzC2ovA83o_LgE&s >>> =4HGhK_K0UjcMSk2mseqfLs2mYTM4dCHghVwCTqC-lUM&e= >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> 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at torchlake.com Mon Mar 5 10:21:20 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:21:20 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> Message-ID: <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no nothing. It's a bit frustrating. If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the utility for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure that her WD MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and my computer didn't see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the installation materials for that drive either. (This is just so unlike her - I'm dismayed.) Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully slow boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by disabling the "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the computer refuses to recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly happened, it seems about six weeks ago. When I suggested she make sure she had all her documents and photos backed up, we suddenly discovered that the WD hard drive was not showing up in the "This PC" file explorer window - but, I don't really know how long ago that disappearance occurred. Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few weeks ago" method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my computer and I could use a little help" method of getting around to actually asking for help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to two full months. So, there's no recent restore point that will help - and there are no long ago restore points available - they all got deleted by the system storage settings. So, I can't just restore the computer to an earlier stage. I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe corrupted a few necessary dll files. I don't have her installation disks. I don't have a license to download the ISO that Helmut suggested. I have spent over 10 hours testing cables, searching for updated drivers, uninstalling devices and letting the computer check for hardware changes, etc. I wish I knew exactly which dlls the WD hard drive and the Logitech mouse need - I could go get fresh copies from other computers and copy them in. I just don't know what to do next. Dang! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. > > r > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Hi All, > > My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. > > Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. > Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. > > I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. > > Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. > > Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: > nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. > > Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? > > Thanks, > T > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Mar 5 10:24:53 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:24:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> <001201d3b3f4$779b60a0$66d221e0$@de> <001301d3b3fe$3c538d10$b4faa730$@de> <615df9b8-60b6-627f-8834-e7f56aa7e54a@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <1fe0792b-e118-2f8e-0db2-579b0a28583a@torchlake.com> Lambert, Oh, good point! We will do that. I was just thinking about my own licensing, and totally overlooked the licensing of the subject machine. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/5/2018 11:13 AM, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 > > The problem machine already has a license, so it will be able to make use of the MS ISO file. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 11:01 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Helmut, this requires me to be licensed to install Windows 10. I am not so licensed. > > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/4/2018 4:17 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: >> Tina, >> You can get it from Microsoft. >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.microsoft.com >> _en-2Dus_software-2Ddownload_windows10&d=DwIGaQ&c=kn4_INW_mBCDHV_xJEVJ >> kg&r=NUDA7itlGG5eK_c8Qt26IpbEaYCCn4Oe9ai3MUHhjq8&m=irjXVOQSAM6VL-m2oXa >> r2-E5WDNFPqzC2ovA83o_LgE&s=LA88HMPuJYaxbDJyWeuQLCBMXzzu2RV_HZDERYXxNdM >> &e= >> >> H >> >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im >> Auftrag von Tina N Fields >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 21:30 >> An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> Helmut, >> >> Thank you. No, I did not run these commands. >> >> I do not think she has an ISO Image of the Win10 InstallDisk. >> >> Where can I get one? >> >> Thanks, >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> On 3/4/2018 3:07 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: >>> Did you try to run these commands from the DOS window ? >>> >>> 1) SFC /scannow >>> >>> 2) Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth >>> /source:wim:D:\sources\install.wim:1 /limitaccess >>> >>> D: = Mounted ISO image of the Win10 InstallDisk >>> >>> Helmut >>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im >>> Auftrag von Tina N Fields >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 20:53 >>> An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >>> >>> Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points >>> reported in the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? >>> >>> Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one >>> on Mar 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. >>> >>> So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the >>> drivers (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: >>> >>> Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while >>> attempting to install them. >>> >>> This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of >>> what looks like a chip on its side. >>> >>> The next line is: >>> >>> The system cannot find the file specified. >>> >>> Right now, I'm baffled. >>> >>> T >>> >>> Tina Norris Fields >>> 231-322-2787 >>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >>> >>> On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: >>>> Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and >>> troubleshoot. >>>> Susan H. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >>>> >>>> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. >>>> Suddenly, it >>> no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >>>> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >>>> >>>> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature >>>> that >>> is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >>>> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver >>>> entries >>> are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no >>> drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for >>> updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim >>> to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment >>> - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide >>> any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert >>> the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being >>> set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have >>> experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent >>> Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >>>> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is >>> powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had >>> looked >>> - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. >>> I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >>>> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. >>>> That >>> works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to >>> get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >>>> Sorry to be so long-winded. 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https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.databaseadvisors.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=kn4_INW_mBCDHV_xJEVJkg&r=NUDA7itlGG5eK_c8Qt26IpbEaYCCn4Oe9ai3MUHhjq8&m=irjXVOQSAM6VL-m2oXar2-E5WDNFPqzC2ovA83o_LgE&s=4HGhK_K0UjcMSk2mseqfLs2mYTM4dCHghVwCTqC-lUM&e= > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Mar 5 10:29:09 2018 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 08:29:09 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <003501d3b49f$16988390$43c98ab0$@bchacc.com> WAG - but is there a small recovery partition on the HD with a 'restore to original' type file(s)? Some years ago when the manufacturers decided not to send out CDs to DVDs with the OS on it, they made a recovery partition with the OS in it. R -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:21 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no nothing. It's a bit frustrating. If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the utility for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure that her WD MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and my computer didn't see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the installation materials for that drive either. (This is just so unlike her - I'm dismayed.) Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully slow boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by disabling the "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the computer refuses to recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly happened, it seems about six weeks ago. When I suggested she make sure she had all her documents and photos backed up, we suddenly discovered that the WD hard drive was not showing up in the "This PC" file explorer window - but, I don't really know how long ago that disappearance occurred. Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few weeks ago" method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my computer and I could use a little help" method of getting around to actually asking for help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to two full months. So, there's no recent restore point that will help - and there are no long ago restore points available - they all got deleted by the system storage settings. So, I can't just restore the computer to an earlier stage. I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe corrupted a few necessary dll files. I don't have her installation disks. I don't have a license to download the ISO that Helmut suggested. I have spent over 10 hours testing cables, searching for updated drivers, uninstalling devices and letting the computer check for hardware changes, etc. I wish I knew exactly which dlls the WD hard drive and the Logitech mouse need - I could go get fresh copies from other computers and copy them in. I just don't know what to do next. Dang! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. > > r > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On > Behalf Of Tina N Fields > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Hi All, > > My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. > > Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. > Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. > > I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. > > Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. > > Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: > nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. > > Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? > > Thanks, > T > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Mar 5 11:00:10 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 12:00:10 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <003501d3b49f$16988390$43c98ab0$@bchacc.com> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> <003501d3b49f$16988390$43c98ab0$@bchacc.com> Message-ID: Hmm, yes, I think there is. Thank you for that thought. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/5/2018 11:29 AM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > WAG - but is there a small recovery partition on the HD with a 'restore to > original' type file(s)? Some years ago when the manufacturers decided not > to send out CDs to DVDs with the OS on it, they made a recovery partition > with the OS in it. > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Tina N Fields > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:21 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. > > I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the > documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no nothing. > It's a bit frustrating. > > If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the utility > for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure that her WD > MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and my computer didn't > see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the installation materials > for that drive either. (This is just so unlike her - I'm dismayed.) > > Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully slow > boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by disabling the > "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the computer refuses to > recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly happened, it seems about > six weeks ago. When I suggested she make sure she had all her documents and > photos backed up, we suddenly discovered that the WD hard drive was not > showing up in the "This PC" file explorer window - but, I don't really know > how long ago that disappearance occurred. > > Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few weeks ago" > method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my computer and I > could use a little help" method of getting around to actually asking for > help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to two full months. So, > there's no recent restore point that will help - and there are no long ago > restore points available - they all got deleted by the system storage > settings. So, I can't just restore the computer to an earlier stage. > > I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe corrupted a few > necessary dll files. I don't have her installation disks. I don't have a > license to download the ISO that Helmut suggested. I have spent over 10 > hours testing cables, searching for updated drivers, uninstalling devices > and letting the computer check for hardware changes, etc. I wish I knew > exactly which dlls the WD hard drive and the Logitech mouse need - I could > go get fresh copies from other computers and copy them in. I just don't know > what to do next. > > Dang! > > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: >> Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. >> >> r >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On >> Behalf Of Tina N Fields >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM >> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> Hi All, >> >> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >> >> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it > no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >> >> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that > is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries > are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have > been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the > mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, > but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech > support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete > the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells > me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does > anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some > recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this > mouse was relying on. >> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is > powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked > - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've > tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That > works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get > another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >> >> Thanks, >> T >> >> -- >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Mar 5 13:58:31 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 12:58:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <615df9b8-60b6-627f-8834-e7f56aa7e54a@torchlake.com> References: <006b01d3b3ef$b0c51ce0$124f56a0$@gmail.com> <31b3a28c-5593-11c8-54af-8b08b814ea59@torchlake.com> <001201d3b3f4$779b60a0$66d221e0$@de> <001301d3b3fe$3c538d10$b4faa730$@de> <615df9b8-60b6-627f-8834-e7f56aa7e54a@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <1631810028.360474421.1520279911647.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi Tina: I did download Windows 10 from that site but it does assume that the OS is an upgrade but I see no reason why it would be any more of a problem if overwriting a bad Windows10 install. Note: My subsequent install, of Windows10, on a Windows7 box, that in itself was installed a few minutes before, went flawlessly. The install just used the previous authentication code...and it even automated the activation with a single click. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 8:01:19 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Helmut, this requires me to be licensed to install Windows 10. I am not so licensed. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 4:17 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: > Tina, > You can get it from Microsoft. > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 > > H > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Tina N Fields > Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 21:30 > An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Helmut, > > Thank you. No, I did not run these commands. > > I do not think she has an ISO Image of the Win10 InstallDisk. > > Where can I get one? > > Thanks, > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/4/2018 3:07 PM, Helmut Kotsch wrote: >> Did you try to run these commands from the DOS window ? >> >> 1) SFC /scannow >> >> 2) Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth >> /source:wim:D:\sources\install.wim:1 /limitaccess >> >> D: = Mounted ISO image of the Win10 InstallDisk >> >> Helmut >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im >> Auftrag von Tina N Fields >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. M?rz 2018 20:53 >> An: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >> Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> Um, yeah - that's already been tried. No usable restore points >> reported in the list that are far enough back in time. And, what's with that, anyway? >> >> Her machine shows only three restore points - two on Feb 15, and one >> on Mar 2. Nothing earlier. Problem has been around for longer than that. >> >> So, more research - when trying to get the system to recognize the >> drivers (that are, in fact, in the computer). We get this message: >> >> Windows found drivers for your device but encountered an error while >> attempting to install them. >> >> This is followed by the notation USB input device and an image of what >> looks like a chip on its side. >> >> The next line is: >> >> The system cannot find the file specified. >> >> Right now, I'm baffled. >> >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> On 3/4/2018 2:33 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: >>> Restore. If that doesn't fix everything, then you can research and >> troubleshoot. >>> Susan H. >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >>> >>> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. >>> Suddenly, it >> no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >>> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >>> >>> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature >>> that >> is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >>> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver >>> entries >> are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no >> drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated >> drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have >> the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm >> not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any >> drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the >> USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set >> up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience >> with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update >> broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >>> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is >> powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had >> looked >> - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. >> I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >>> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That >> works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get >> another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >>> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> T >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Norris Fields >>> 231-322-2787 >>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Mar 5 14:29:54 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 13:29:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <1479654390.360574058.1520281794294.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> With someone with your skills sets this is a no-brainer. My question is what is this about drivers? It has been years since the appropriate drivers have been any issue...all OSs I am familiar with come with a substantial set of drivers, will automatically download any unusual driver sets and only in some very odd case but then the hardware builder supply the driver. The hardware you have described is common. To my way of thinking there must be some other cause... Motherboard failure? Internal power supply failure? Erratic power supply and no UPS? etc. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 8:21:20 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no nothing. It's a bit frustrating. If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the utility for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure that her WD MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and my computer didn't see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the installation materials for that drive either. (This is just so unlike her - I'm dismayed.) Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully slow boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by disabling the "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the computer refuses to recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly happened, it seems about six weeks ago. When I suggested she make sure she had all her documents and photos backed up, we suddenly discovered that the WD hard drive was not showing up in the "This PC" file explorer window - but, I don't really know how long ago that disappearance occurred. Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few weeks ago" method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my computer and I could use a little help" method of getting around to actually asking for help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to two full months. So, there's no recent restore point that will help - and there are no long ago restore points available - they all got deleted by the system storage settings. So, I can't just restore the computer to an earlier stage. I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe corrupted a few necessary dll files. I don't have her installation disks. I don't have a license to download the ISO that Helmut suggested. I have spent over 10 hours testing cables, searching for updated drivers, uninstalling devices and letting the computer check for hardware changes, etc. I wish I knew exactly which dlls the WD hard drive and the Logitech mouse need - I could go get fresh copies from other computers and copy them in. I just don't know what to do next. Dang! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. > > r > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Hi All, > > My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. > > Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. > Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. > > I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. > > Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. > > Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: > nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. > > Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? > > Thanks, > T > > -- > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Mar 5 15:02:53 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 16:02:53 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <1479654390.360574058.1520281794294.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> <1479654390.360574058.1520281794294.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <19ae2ce1-61ee-90b6-b4bf-4fed95cef3bf@torchlake.com> Thanks, Jim, for the kind words. I think we have now established that it is a corruption of some kind in the OS. We will reinstall the OS tomorrow morning. So, while I wasn't looking, we stopped having to worry about drivers? You know I didn't realize that. Regards, T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/5/2018 3:29 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > With someone with your skills sets this is a no-brainer. > > My question is what is this about drivers? It has been years since the appropriate drivers have been any issue...all OSs I am familiar with come with a substantial set of drivers, will automatically download any unusual driver sets and only in some very odd case but then the hardware builder supply the driver. The hardware you have described is common. > > To my way of thinking there must be some other cause... Motherboard failure? Internal power supply failure? Erratic power supply and no UPS? etc. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tinanfields" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 8:21:20 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. > > I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the > documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no > nothing. It's a bit frustrating. > > If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the > utility for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure that > her WD MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and my > computer didn't see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the > installation materials for that drive either. (This is just so unlike > her - I'm dismayed.) > > Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully slow > boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by disabling the > "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the computer refuses to > recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly happened, it seems > about six weeks ago. When I suggested she make sure she had all her > documents and photos backed up, we suddenly discovered that the WD hard > drive was not showing up in the "This PC" file explorer window - but, I > don't really know how long ago that disappearance occurred. > > Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few weeks > ago" method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my computer > and I could use a little help" method of getting around to actually > asking for help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to two full > months. So, there's no recent restore point that will help - and there > are no long ago restore points available - they all got deleted by the > system storage settings. So, I can't just restore the computer to an > earlier stage. > > I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe corrupted a > few necessary dll files. I don't have her installation disks. I don't > have a license to download the ISO that Helmut suggested. I have spent > over 10 hours testing cables, searching for updated drivers, > uninstalling devices and letting the computer check for hardware > changes, etc. I wish I knew exactly which dlls the WD hard drive and the > Logitech mouse need - I could go get fresh copies from other computers > and copy them in. I just don't know what to do next. > > Dang! > > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: >> Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. >> >> r >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM >> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> Hi All, >> >> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >> >> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >> >> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >> >> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >> >> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >> >> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >> >> Thanks, >> T >> >> -- >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Tue Mar 6 10:11:11 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 11:11:11 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <19ae2ce1-61ee-90b6-b4bf-4fed95cef3bf@torchlake.com> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> <1479654390.360574058.1520281794294.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <19ae2ce1-61ee-90b6-b4bf-4fed95cef3bf@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <47d14a6c-1121-b509-1b93-ffd797f011ff@torchlake.com> Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. Good grief! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/5/2018 4:02 PM, Tina N Fields wrote: > Thanks, Jim, for the kind words. > > I think we have now established that it is a corruption of some kind > in the OS. We will reinstall the OS tomorrow morning. > > So, while I wasn't looking, we stopped having to worry about drivers? > You know I didn't realize that. > > Regards, > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/5/2018 3:29 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> With someone with your skills sets this is a no-brainer. >> >> My question is what is this about drivers? It has been years since >> the appropriate drivers have been any issue...all OSs I am familiar >> with come with a substantial set of drivers, will automatically >> download any unusual driver sets and only in some very odd case but >> then the hardware builder supply the driver. The hardware you have >> described is common. >> >> To my way of thinking there must be some other cause... Motherboard >> failure? Internal power supply failure? Erratic power supply and no >> UPS? etc. >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tinanfields" >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 8:21:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. >> >> I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the >> documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no >> nothing. It's a bit frustrating. >> >> If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the >> utility for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure that >> her WD MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and my >> computer didn't see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the >> installation materials for that drive either. (This is just so unlike >> her - I'm dismayed.) >> >> Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully slow >> boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by disabling the >> "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the computer refuses to >> recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly happened, it seems >> about six weeks ago. When I suggested she make sure she had all her >> documents and photos backed up, we suddenly discovered that the WD hard >> drive was not showing up in the "This PC" file explorer window - but, I >> don't really know how long ago that disappearance occurred. >> >> Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few weeks >> ago" method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my computer >> and I could use a little help" method of getting around to actually >> asking for help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to two full >> months. So, there's no recent restore point that will help - and there >> are no long ago restore points available - they all got deleted by the >> system storage settings. So, I can't just restore the computer to an >> earlier stage. >> >> I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe corrupted a >> few necessary dll files. I don't have her installation disks. I don't >> have a license to download the ISO that Helmut suggested. I have spent >> over 10 hours testing cables, searching for updated drivers, >> uninstalling devices and letting the computer check for hardware >> changes, etc. I wish I knew exactly which dlls the WD hard drive and the >> Logitech mouse need - I could go get fresh copies from other computers >> and copy them in. I just don't know what to do next. >> >> Dang! >> >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: >>> Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. >>> >>> r >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On >>> Behalf Of Tina N Fields >>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM >>> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >>> >>> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. >>> Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical >>> mouse. >>> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >>> >>> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature >>> that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back >>> to normal. >>> >>> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver >>> entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that >>> no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for >>> updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim >>> to have the necessary drivers, but require? registration and payment >>> - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to >>> provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and >>> then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the >>> device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does >>> anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though >>> some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL >>> somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >>> >>> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is >>> powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I >>> had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear >>> any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same >>> result: >>> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. >>> That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going >>> to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable >>> failure. >>> >>> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> T >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Norris Fields >>> 231-322-2787 >>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Mar 6 10:21:33 2018 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:21:33 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <47d14a6c-1121-b509-1b93-ffd797f011ff@torchlake.com> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> <1479654390.360574058.1520281794294.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <19ae2ce1-61ee-90b6-b4bf-4fed95cef3bf@torchlake.com> <47d14a6c-1121-b509-1b93-ffd797f011ff@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <019c01d3b567$318fe850$94afb8f0$@bchacc.com> Nice! Don't disabuse her of any false notions about your talents. Tell her it involved magic. After all, as Arthur Clarke said " Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". :) R -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 8:11 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. Good grief! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/5/2018 4:02 PM, Tina N Fields wrote: > Thanks, Jim, for the kind words. > > I think we have now established that it is a corruption of some kind > in the OS. We will reinstall the OS tomorrow morning. > > So, while I wasn't looking, we stopped having to worry about drivers? > You know I didn't realize that. > > Regards, > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/5/2018 3:29 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> With someone with your skills sets this is a no-brainer. >> >> My question is what is this about drivers? It has been years since >> the appropriate drivers have been any issue...all OSs I am familiar >> with come with a substantial set of drivers, will automatically >> download any unusual driver sets and only in some very odd case but >> then the hardware builder supply the driver. The hardware you have >> described is common. >> >> To my way of thinking there must be some other cause... Motherboard >> failure? Internal power supply failure? Erratic power supply and no >> UPS? etc. >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tinanfields" >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" >> databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 8:21:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. >> >> I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the >> documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no >> nothing. It's a bit frustrating. >> >> If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the >> utility for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure >> that her WD MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and >> my computer didn't see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the >> installation materials for that drive either. (This is just so unlike >> her - I'm dismayed.) >> >> Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully >> slow boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by >> disabling the "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the >> computer refuses to recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly >> happened, it seems about six weeks ago. When I suggested she make >> sure she had all her documents and photos backed up, we suddenly >> discovered that the WD hard drive was not showing up in the "This PC" >> file explorer window - but, I don't really know how long ago that disappearance occurred. >> >> Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few >> weeks ago" method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my >> computer and I could use a little help" method of getting around to >> actually asking for help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to >> two full months. So, there's no recent restore point that will help - >> and there are no long ago restore points available - they all got >> deleted by the system storage settings. So, I can't just restore the >> computer to an earlier stage. >> >> I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe >> corrupted a few necessary dll files. I don't have her installation >> disks. I don't have a license to download the ISO that Helmut >> suggested. I have spent over 10 hours testing cables, searching for >> updated drivers, uninstalling devices and letting the computer check >> for hardware changes, etc. I wish I knew exactly which dlls the WD >> hard drive and the Logitech mouse need - I could go get fresh copies >> from other computers and copy them in. I just don't know what to do next. >> >> Dang! >> >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: >>> Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. >>> >>> r >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On >>> Behalf Of Tina N Fields >>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM >>> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >>> >>> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. >>> Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical >>> mouse. >>> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >>> >>> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature >>> that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back >>> to normal. >>> >>> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver >>> entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that >>> no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for >>> updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim >>> to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment >>> - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to >>> provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and >>> then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the >>> device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does >>> anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though >>> some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL >>> somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >>> >>> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is >>> powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I >>> had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear >>> any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same >>> result: >>> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. >>> That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going >>> to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable >>> failure. >>> >>> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> T >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Norris Fields >>> 231-322-2787 >>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Mar 6 11:50:55 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:50:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <47d14a6c-1121-b509-1b93-ffd797f011ff@torchlake.com> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> <1479654390.360574058.1520281794294.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <19ae2ce1-61ee-90b6-b4bf-4fed95cef3bf@torchlake.com> <47d14a6c-1121-b509-1b93-ffd797f011ff@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <145126081.363282226.1520358655315.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Probably an original upgrade wrecked the mouse, in the first place and now another upgrade fixed it. I would like to say that is unusual but I can not. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. Good grief! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/5/2018 4:02 PM, Tina N Fields wrote: > Thanks, Jim, for the kind words. > > I think we have now established that it is a corruption of some kind > in the OS. We will reinstall the OS tomorrow morning. > > So, while I wasn't looking, we stopped having to worry about drivers? > You know I didn't realize that. > > Regards, > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > On 3/5/2018 3:29 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> With someone with your skills sets this is a no-brainer. >> >> My question is what is this about drivers? It has been years since >> the appropriate drivers have been any issue...all OSs I am familiar >> with come with a substantial set of drivers, will automatically >> download any unusual driver sets and only in some very odd case but >> then the hardware builder supply the driver. The hardware you have >> described is common. >> >> To my way of thinking there must be some other cause... Motherboard >> failure? Internal power supply failure? Erratic power supply and no >> UPS? etc. >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tinanfields" >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 8:21:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. >> >> I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the >> documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no >> nothing. It's a bit frustrating. >> >> If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the >> utility for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure that >> her WD MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and my >> computer didn't see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the >> installation materials for that drive either. (This is just so unlike >> her - I'm dismayed.) >> >> Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully slow >> boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by disabling the >> "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the computer refuses to >> recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly happened, it seems >> about six weeks ago. When I suggested she make sure she had all her >> documents and photos backed up, we suddenly discovered that the WD hard >> drive was not showing up in the "This PC" file explorer window - but, I >> don't really know how long ago that disappearance occurred. >> >> Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few weeks >> ago" method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my computer >> and I could use a little help" method of getting around to actually >> asking for help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to two full >> months. So, there's no recent restore point that will help - and there >> are no long ago restore points available - they all got deleted by the >> system storage settings. So, I can't just restore the computer to an >> earlier stage. >> >> I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe corrupted a >> few necessary dll files. I don't have her installation disks. I don't >> have a license to download the ISO that Helmut suggested. I have spent >> over 10 hours testing cables, searching for updated drivers, >> uninstalling devices and letting the computer check for hardware >> changes, etc. I wish I knew exactly which dlls the WD hard drive and the >> Logitech mouse need - I could go get fresh copies from other computers >> and copy them in. I just don't know what to do next. >> >> Dang! >> >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >> On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: >>> Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. >>> >>> r >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On >>> Behalf Of Tina N Fields >>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM >>> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >>> >>> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. >>> Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical >>> mouse. >>> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >>> >>> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature >>> that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back >>> to normal. >>> >>> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver >>> entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that >>> no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for >>> updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim >>> to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment >>> - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to >>> provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and >>> then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the >>> device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does >>> anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though >>> some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL >>> somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >>> >>> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is >>> powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I >>> had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear >>> any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same >>> result: >>> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. >>> That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going >>> to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable >>> failure. >>> >>> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> T >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Norris Fields >>> 231-322-2787 >>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Mar 7 00:50:58 2018 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 06:50:58 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Message-ID: Hi Tina That's not it. The current mouse drivers of Windows are dated 2006-06-21. /gustav ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. Good grief! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Mar 7 03:55:35 2018 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:55:35 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Message-ID: Hi Tina I was too fast (or slow). You are 100% correct, though the issue was not specifically impacting mice but "some USB devices": https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4090913/march5-2018kb4090913osbuild16299-251 /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 7. marts 2018 07:51 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Tina That's not it. The current mouse drivers of Windows are dated 2006-06-21. /gustav ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. Good grief! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 04:05:18 2018 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 10:05:18 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61DA8@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 09:56 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Tina I was too fast (or slow). You are 100% correct, though the issue was not specifically impacting mice but "some USB devices": https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4090913/march5-2018kb4090913osbuild16299-251 /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 7. marts 2018 07:51 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Tina That's not it. The current mouse drivers of Windows are dated 2006-06-21. /gustav ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. Good grief! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Mar 7 04:44:23 2018 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 10:44:23 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Message-ID: Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 05:27:09 2018 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 11:27:09 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Mar 7 06:31:23 2018 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 12:31:23 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Message-ID: Hi Martin Try CCleaner. It sometimes removes more temp data. It can also quickly delete unused applications. And temporarily removed images and videos and other user files. You must have filled a lot of stuff onto the disk to only have 4 GB left. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 12:27 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone From df.waters at outlook.com Wed Mar 7 09:33:59 2018 From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 15:33:59 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: What is the capacity of the SSD on your Surface Pro? I would guess it's at least 120 Gb. So you have a lot of stuff on it. This time has come ... to get an SSD with more capacity. I would recommend Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD for $90 on Amazon. The 500 Gb version is $150. If you're not familiar with copying one disk to another have someone do that or take it to a tech store. The new disk will work just like the original w/o installing any software. Good Luck! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Mar 7 10:52:22 2018 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:52:22 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com> Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed Mar 7 11:05:22 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 17:05:22 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4090913/march5-2018kb4090913osbuild16299-251 Addresses issue where some USB devices and onboard devices, such as a built-in laptop camera, keyboard, or mouse, stop working. This may occur when the Windows Update servicing stack incorrectly skips installing the newer version of some critical drivers in the cumulative update and uninstalls the currently active drivers during maintenance. Addresses issue where some devices may fail to boot with "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE". Now calls out Inaccessible boot device Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?3/?7/?2018 12:51 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Tina That's not it. The current mouse drivers of Windows are dated 2006-06-21. /gustav ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. Good grief! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Wed Mar 7 11:04:46 2018 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina N Fields) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 12:04:46 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92574a2d-ab6e-3a29-c80f-ba395fad252b@torchlake.com> Thank you, Gustav. That's it. T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com On 3/7/2018 4:55 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Tina > > I was too fast (or slow). > You are 100% correct, though the issue was not specifically impacting mice but "some USB devices": > > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4090913/march5-2018kb4090913osbuild16299-251 > > /gustav > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock > Sendt: 7. marts 2018 07:51 > Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Hi Tina > > That's not it. > The current mouse drivers of Windows are dated 2006-06-21. > > /gustav > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tinanfields" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:11:11 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues > > Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. > > I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. > > Good grief! > > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed Mar 7 11:09:53 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 17:09:53 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61DA8@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: , <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61DA8@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: With the surface you can insert a 32gb SD card, about $12, and redirect your documents etc to store on it. I had to do use a USB flash drive with win 8 tablets that had no SD slot in order to upgrade to 10. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Martin Reid Sent: ?3/?7/?2018 4:06 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 09:56 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Tina I was too fast (or slow). You are 100% correct, though the issue was not specifically impacting mice but "some USB devices": https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4090913/march5-2018kb4090913osbuild16299-251 /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 7. marts 2018 07:51 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Tina That's not it. The current mouse drivers of Windows are dated 2006-06-21. /gustav ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinanfields" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Okay, got a call from Jeanne this morning, wondering what magic I had done overnight. The mouse is working. I'm betting a new Windows 10 update came through and fixed the problem. Good grief! T Tina Norris Fields 231-322-2787 tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 11:07:27 2018 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 17:07:27 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com> References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> , <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com> Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> The odd thing is there are no user files on it. Its 52gb Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 16:53 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed Mar 7 11:21:10 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 17:21:10 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> , <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com>, <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: Recently worked on a surface with a similar issue. I removed the accounts and cleaned it and still didn't gain back the space. Since there was nothing stored on it I reinstalled fresh. Didn't help. Added a mini SD and redirected user storage to it. All is well now. Fyi Ms has a special download iso for surface rebuilding rather than the generic windows 10 iso. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Martin Reid Sent: ?3/?7/?2018 11:12 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues The odd thing is there are no user files on it. Its 52gb Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 16:53 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 11:24:17 2018 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 17:24:17 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> , <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com>, <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>, Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A6218E@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Good idea. Will try sd card Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: John Bartow Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 17:21 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Recently worked on a surface with a similar issue. I removed the accounts and cleaned it and still didn't gain back the space. Since there was nothing stored on it I reinstalled fresh. Didn't help. Added a mini SD and redirected user storage to it. All is well now. Fyi Ms has a special download iso for surface rebuilding rather than the generic windows 10 iso. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Martin Reid Sent: ?3/?7/?2018 11:12 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues The odd thing is there are no user files on it. Its 52gb Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 16:53 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Mar 7 11:45:06 2018 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:45:06 -0800 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> , <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02e001d3b63c$07ef90b0$17ceb210$@bchacc.com> So it's programs? 52GB of software? If so I would uninstall enough of them to get the update done and then reinstall them. Is that practical? R -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 9:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues The odd thing is there are no user files on it. Its 52gb Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 16:53 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 11:57:25 2018 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 17:57:25 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <02e001d3b63c$07ef90b0$17ceb210$@bchacc.com> References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> , <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>, <02e001d3b63c$07ef90b0$17ceb210$@bchacc.com> Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62210@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Can try that. Mostly on office pro on it. Its weird. Did think there must be hidden windows update files etc somewhere. Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 17:50 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues So it's programs? 52GB of software? If so I would uninstall enough of them to get the update done and then reinstall them. Is that practical? R -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 9:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues The odd thing is there are no user files on it. Its 52gb Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 16:53 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed Mar 7 12:03:52 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 18:03:52 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <02e001d3b63c$07ef90b0$17ceb210$@bchacc.com> References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> , <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>, <02e001d3b63c$07ef90b0$17ceb210$@bchacc.com> Message-ID: Its windows Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?3/?7/?2018 11:45 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues So it's programs? 52GB of software? If so I would uninstall enough of them to get the update done and then reinstall them. Is that practical? R -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 9:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues The odd thing is there are no user files on it. Its 52gb Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 16:53 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed Mar 7 12:06:06 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 18:06:06 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62210@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> , <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>, <02e001d3b63c$07ef90b0$17ceb210$@bchacc.com>, <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62210@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: There is a windows hidden folder but you cant safely delete it afaik. Named C:\ ~BT something or other. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Martin Reid Sent: ?3/?7/?2018 11:58 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can try that. Mostly on office pro on it. Its weird. Did think there must be hidden windows update files etc somewhere. Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 17:50 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues So it's programs? 52GB of software? If so I would uninstall enough of them to get the update done and then reinstall them. Is that practical? R -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 9:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues The odd thing is there are no user files on it. Its 52gb Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 16:53 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Mar 7 15:09:00 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:09:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A61E79@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> <02d901d3b634$a9a69e60$fcf3db20$@bchacc.com> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A62120@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <686784545.367296937.1520456940819.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> "...Ms has a special download iso for surface rebuilding rather than the generic windows 10 iso." That's helpful. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:21:10 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Recently worked on a surface with a similar issue. I removed the accounts and cleaned it and still didn't gain back the space. Since there was nothing stored on it I reinstalled fresh. Didn't help. Added a mini SD and redirected user storage to it. All is well now. Fyi Ms has a special download iso for surface rebuilding rather than the generic windows 10 iso. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Martin Reid Sent: ?3/?7/?2018 11:12 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues The odd thing is there are no user files on it. Its 52gb Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Rocky Smolin Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 16:53 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Can you just use a USB drive and copy off 8-16GB of stuff and restore it later? r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: March 7, 2018 05:27 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Mar 8 12:43:43 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 11:43:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <672737155.370342898.1520534623764.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi All: It seems that the new minimum RAM needed is 16GB...for all the new OSs. A lot of apps are coming to our PCs need a lot of memory; Electron apps, Snap-apps, Flatpacks, Containers and Virtual Drive. The beauty or problem, depending on how you look at them, of these new app delivery systems, is that they bring an entire mini-OS with them. I use a Microsoft VB.net editor which is a standard VB.Net editor wrapped in an Electron framework and it works fine on any OS. I think these systems are a great solution to the dream of write once run everywhere but they are pigs on resources, particularly RAM. A couple of weekends ago, worked at a company, that wanted to preserve their huge investment, of a POS originally written on XP, have all the modern extended functionality and an iron-clad security and backup system. The solution was to replace all their PCs with new boxes, with 16GB, install a Linux distro and then use Virtualbox to replicate all their old PCs...while the store was open. The job was completed, on 30 machines, in less than 6 hours and no downtime. The fix, though not very elegant, was cheap, fast, flexible and reliable. In summary, my recommendation is to load any of your boxes to capacity rather than continually fight for RAM with each upgrade. I have been looking at a future solution, of using a Hyper-V server, replicating a number of specialty servers which should be able to guarantee security for an internal intranet and sandboxing internet connections. If anyone has had experience with this type of networking, links to good tutorials and how to properly setup a system, Please let me know. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 4:31:23 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Try CCleaner. It sometimes removes more temp data. It can also quickly delete unused applications. And temporarily removed images and videos and other user files. You must have filled a lot of stuff onto the disk to only have 4 GB left. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 12:27 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Gustav Done. Have 4gb. Need 8 to do latest windows updates!! Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Gustav Brock Sent: ?07/?03/?2018 10:45 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues Hi Martin Start with Disk Cleanup (drive C:, Properties) and click "Clean up system files". When ready calculating, mark everything to delete. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Martin Reid Sendt: 7. marts 2018 11:05 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues I have surface pro 2. Nothing stored on it. I need to recover as much disc space as I can. At least 10gb. Any ideas? Martin Sent from my Windows Phone _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Mar 12 11:03:08 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:03:08 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Mac to Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115194273.381135298.1520870588588.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> If your Macbook PRO is showing its age it may be time to migrate your BSD based system to full based Linux distribution. Below is a link giving a step by step instructions on how to upgrade and manage the appropriate drivers. The Linus distro being used in this migration is to Gento Linux, not a newby version; definitely an enthusiast version, so unless you are familiar the base concepts of Linux, it will be a challenge. (Think how challenging your first IKE furniture assembly was...) https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Apple_Macbook_Pro_Retina_(early_2013) http://bit.ly/2Djv8SR Jim From jbartow at winhaven.net Tue Mar 13 22:49:08 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 03:49:08 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Message-ID: Hi All, Does anyone happen know off the top of their head how to make a contact, or better yet a contact group, public for anyone in the organization to use? TIA, John B From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Mar 14 13:57:14 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1440088531.388150144.1521053834780.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi John: Sorry, I do not but have been doing some investigation at this time. If I find anything I will post here. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:49:08 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Hi All, Does anyone happen know off the top of their head how to make a contact, or better yet a contact group, public for anyone in the organization to use? TIA, John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Wed Mar 14 17:03:01 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:03:01 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public In-Reply-To: <1440088531.388150144.1521053834780.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <1440088531.388150144.1521053834780.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: For what its worth I finally called support. https://support.google.com/a/answer/2590392 I had done everything correctly except from the Apps | G Suite | Settings for Directory choose "Show both domain profiles and domain shared contacts". Did that and still hasn't affected anything. The standard "propagation may take up to 24 hours" line. Odd that Sharing a G Drive folder and files, and a Calendar went so quickly but I guess tomorrow I'll see if that makes it work correctly. -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Hi John: Sorry, I do not but have been doing some investigation at this time. If I find anything I will post here. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:49:08 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Hi All, Does anyone happen know off the top of their head how to make a contact, or better yet a contact group, public for anyone in the organization to use? TIA, John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Mar 14 22:06:31 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 21:06:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public In-Reply-To: References: <1440088531.388150144.1521053834780.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1548063680.389470906.1521083191689.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi John: Today, in schools, most kids are using Chrome books, over 58% of all school computers and G suite attachment/client is one of the built in features. I would guess that in a decade, if this current trend continues, Office 365 will not be "the" office suite but "an" office suite. Aside: When all these kids come out of schools what Office Suite will they demand? It does seem like you are well past the initial start-up and are just doing an upgrade. Did you get to speak to a real person? If that happened I would get them to walk me through some testing...it can't be that difficult. Did you check out the following link?: https://gsuite.google.com/setup/ You do have or are working with a registered Domain? Propagation may be the delay? Keep me posted as I may be doing an install at one point. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:03:01 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public For what its worth I finally called support. https://support.google.com/a/answer/2590392 I had done everything correctly except from the Apps | G Suite | Settings for Directory choose "Show both domain profiles and domain shared contacts". Did that and still hasn't affected anything. The standard "propagation may take up to 24 hours" line. Odd that Sharing a G Drive folder and files, and a Calendar went so quickly but I guess tomorrow I'll see if that makes it work correctly. -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Hi John: Sorry, I do not but have been doing some investigation at this time. If I find anything I will post here. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:49:08 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Hi All, Does anyone happen know off the top of their head how to make a contact, or better yet a contact group, public for anyone in the organization to use? TIA, John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jbartow at winhaven.net Fri Mar 16 10:39:46 2018 From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:39:46 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public In-Reply-To: <1548063680.389470906.1521083191689.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <1440088531.388150144.1521053834780.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <1548063680.389470906.1521083191689.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Jim, G Suite is very basic. It lacks the sophistication of Office 365 which has been improving every week since I can remember. That in and of itself makes it a bit frustrating but at least capable. I have a few customers who I've set up with it now and while they are very basic in their needs now, that will most likely grow. Hopefully Google gets it act together on these simple issues or I'm really going to regret this venture. As a follow up to my original post, NO, the contacts are still not sharing correctly. Another aside, G Suite costs double per user to have simple chrome book/android device management capabilities. Office 365 includes it with the base price. So while Google did pull a good copy of what Apple did in the 70/80s with school kids, it's a long way from being a true competitor with O365 for enterprise use. To reinforce that opinion, my peers who resell/support GSuite in their businesses are always complaining about it. Completely different attitude then the kiddies, residential millennials and trade rags opinions. I'll take working experience over any of those sources every time. -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:07 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Hi John: Today, in schools, most kids are using Chrome books, over 58% of all school computers and G suite attachment/client is one of the built in features. I would guess that in a decade, if this current trend continues, Office 365 will not be "the" office suite but "an" office suite. Aside: When all these kids come out of schools what Office Suite will they demand? It does seem like you are well past the initial start-up and are just doing an upgrade. Did you get to speak to a real person? If that happened I would get them to walk me through some testing...it can't be that difficult. Did you check out the following link?: https://gsuite.google.com/setup/ You do have or are working with a registered Domain? Propagation may be the delay? Keep me posted as I may be doing an install at one point. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:03:01 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public For what its worth I finally called support. https://support.google.com/a/answer/2590392 I had done everything correctly except from the Apps | G Suite | Settings for Directory choose "Show both domain profiles and domain shared contacts". Did that and still hasn't affected anything. The standard "propagation may take up to 24 hours" line. Odd that Sharing a G Drive folder and files, and a Calendar went so quickly but I guess tomorrow I'll see if that makes it work correctly. -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Hi John: Sorry, I do not but have been doing some investigation at this time. If I find anything I will post here. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Bartow" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:49:08 PM Subject: [dba-Tech] G Suite make a contact public Hi All, Does anyone happen know off the top of their head how to make a contact, or better yet a contact group, public for anyone in the organization to use? TIA, John B _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 09:17:43 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 10:17:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can'r remember the name of a program Message-ID: There is a program (actually I think it's a web site) that examines your computer and creates a report that lists almost everything about your hardware and software: CPU, OS, hardware details, even all the installed software. I've forgotten the name of it. Ring any bells? -- Arthur From hkotsch at arcor.de Sun Mar 18 09:36:33 2018 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 15:36:33 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can'r remember the name of a program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002601d3bec6$8409e780$8c1db680$@de> One without software is: https://www.ccleaner.com/speccy Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Arthur Fuller Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. M?rz 2018 15:18 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: [dba-Tech] Can'r remember the name of a program There is a program (actually I think it's a web site) that examines your computer and creates a report that lists almost everything about your hardware and software: CPU, OS, hardware details, even all the installed software. I've forgotten the name of it. Ring any bells? -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Sun Mar 18 09:43:25 2018 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 15:43:25 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can'r remember the name of a program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701d3bec7$79702b80$6c508280$@de> Another one: https://www.fosshub.com/HWiNFO.html Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Arthur Fuller Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. M?rz 2018 15:18 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: [dba-Tech] Can'r remember the name of a program There is a program (actually I think it's a web site) that examines your computer and creates a report that lists almost everything about your hardware and software: CPU, OS, hardware details, even all the installed software. I've forgotten the name of it. Ring any bells? -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hkotsch at arcor.de Sun Mar 18 09:55:53 2018 From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 15:55:53 +0100 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can'r remember the name of a program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002801d3bec9$379bfcf0$a6d3f6d0$@de> You probably thought about this one: http://www.freshdevices.com/freshdiag.html Helmut -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag von Arthur Fuller Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. M?rz 2018 15:18 An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Betreff: [dba-Tech] Can'r remember the name of a program There is a program (actually I think it's a web site) that examines your computer and creates a report that lists almost everything about your hardware and software: CPU, OS, hardware details, even all the installed software. I've forgotten the name of it. Ring any bells? -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 10:08:35 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 11:08:35 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Can'r remember the name of a program In-Reply-To: <002601d3bec6$8409e780$8c1db680$@de> References: <002601d3bec6$8409e780$8c1db680$@de> Message-ID: I suddenly remembered what it's called. Belarc Advisor. I plead old age, Your Honor. Arthur ? From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 05:44:31 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 06:44:31 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware Message-ID: Damn! I got bitten by some malware and I've tried Malwarebytes and a few other products, and none seems able to get rid of it. Malwarebytes is able to block attempts to access a website, which is wonderful, but it's apparently unable to remove the malware itself. Malwarebytes reports the file that's trying to connect as c:Program Files(x86)\Shapero\lobstermen.exe, but using Explorer I can't find that directory. This is a new machine with not much installed on it yet. My previous laptop, a Dell Insipiron, had a startup option which would restore the system to its original state. This machine in an HP ProBook. Does anyone know whether it has an equivalent option? Since I have so little installed on it, I'm fully prepared to restore the system to its original state The product I installed that caused the grief is ImgBurn. I have used this software before without problems, but when I downloaded it this time, it came with a bunch of bundleware. Since I got it from MajorGeeks, I let my guard down, and that was a big mistake. -- Arthur From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Mar 20 05:57:10 2018 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 10:57:10 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware Message-ID: Hi Arthur If Windows 10, click Settings, then Update and Security. At menu left, select Recovery. After restart, you should be presented with info on how to restore the machine to factory default. Don't know what ImgBurn should do. Windows can burn images to dvd/cd by default. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 20. marts 2018 11:45 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware Damn! I got bitten by some malware and I've tried Malwarebytes and a few other products, and none seems able to get rid of it. Malwarebytes is able to block attempts to access a website, which is wonderful, but it's apparently unable to remove the malware itself. Malwarebytes reports the file that's trying to connect as c:Program Files(x86)\Shapero\lobstermen.exe, but using Explorer I can't find that directory. This is a new machine with not much installed on it yet. My previous laptop, a Dell Insipiron, had a startup option which would restore the system to its original state. This machine in an HP ProBook. Does anyone know whether it has an equivalent option? Since I have so little installed on it, I'm fully prepared to restore the system to its original state The product I installed that caused the grief is ImgBurn. I have used this software before without problems, but when I downloaded it this time, it came with a bunch of bundleware. Since I got it from MajorGeeks, I let my guard down, and that was a big mistake. -- Arthur From df.waters at outlook.com Tue Mar 20 06:04:25 2018 From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 11:04:25 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Arthur, Windows Defender has an off-line mode for detection and removal of malware. Hope that helps! Dan Sent from my Windows 10 phone ________________________________ From: dba-Tech on behalf of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 5:44:31 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware Damn! I got bitten by some malware and I've tried Malwarebytes and a few other products, and none seems able to get rid of it. Malwarebytes is able to block attempts to access a website, which is wonderful, but it's apparently unable to remove the malware itself. Malwarebytes reports the file that's trying to connect as c:Program Files(x86)\Shapero\lobstermen.exe, but using Explorer I can't find that directory. This is a new machine with not much installed on it yet. My previous laptop, a Dell Insipiron, had a startup option which would restore the system to its original state. This machine in an HP ProBook. Does anyone know whether it has an equivalent option? Since I have so little installed on it, I'm fully prepared to restore the system to its original state The product I installed that caused the grief is ImgBurn. I have used this software before without problems, but when I downloaded it this time, it came with a bunch of bundleware. Since I got it from MajorGeeks, I let my guard down, and that was a big mistake. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 06:04:53 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:04:53 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gustav, It's currently Windows 7 (I bought the machine used on eBay). I was unaware that Windows 10 could burn DVDs from an image file. I'll have a look in Settings and see if I can find the equivalent. Thanks. Arthur ? From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 06:24:27 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:24:27 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] HP ProBook Message-ID: I bought this machine used from eBay and like it a lot, so far. But one thing surprised me: there is no place to attach an external monitor. The built-in monitor is nice enough, but now my large Acer monitor has nothing to do, and is just standing there feeling lonely. -- Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 06:25:12 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:25:12 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gustav, Found it in WIndows 7, or close enough. I'm currently restoring the system to a previous restore point. It's already done, and now the malware is gone. Hooray! I'll have to reinstall a few things, but that I can live with, for sure. Incidentally, in five hours it will officially be Spring! Another hooray ? A. From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Mar 20 07:08:52 2018 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:08:52 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware Message-ID: Hi Arthur Great! Enjoy Spring. That's what I plan to do. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 20. marts 2018 12:25 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Bitten by malware Gustav, Found it in WIndows 7, or close enough. I'm currently restoring the system to a previous restore point. It's already done, and now the malware is gone. Hooray! I'll have to reinstall a few things, but that I can live with, for sure. Incidentally, in five hours it will officially be Spring! Another hooray ? A. From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 07:44:00 2018 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:44:00 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] HP ProBook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009401d3c049$1f6cb580$5e462080$@gmail.com> No USB ports? I have large monitors too. I had to purchase adapters. Susan H. I bought this machine used from eBay and like it a lot, so far. But one thing surprised me: there is no place to attach an external monitor. The built-in monitor is nice enough, but now my large Acer monitor has nothing to do, and is just standing there feeling lonely. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 07:46:34 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:46:34 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] HP ProBook In-Reply-To: <009401d3c049$1f6cb580$5e462080$@gmail.com> References: <009401d3c049$1f6cb580$5e462080$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Susan, I have USB ports. Can one hook a monitor to one of these, and if so, how? Some sort of adapter? A. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > No USB ports? I have large monitors too. I had to purchase adapters. > > Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 07:49:16 2018 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:49:16 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] HP ProBook In-Reply-To: References: <009401d3c049$1f6cb580$5e462080$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f301d3c049$dbce91d0$936bb570$@gmail.com> Yes -- let me find a link for you. I bought mine at Walmart. Susan H. Susan, I have USB ports. Can one hook a monitor to one of these, and if so, how? Some sort of adapter? A. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > No USB ports? I have large monitors too. I had to purchase adapters. > > Susan H. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 08:10:55 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:10:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hardware harvesting Message-ID: About a month ago, my beloved Dell laptop died. I'm not positive, but a freak electrical storm and neighbourhood-wide power outage may have been the cause. At any rate, the motherboard got fried, and maybe also the CPU. There is a 1TB hard disk still inside it. Is there any way I can remove it and attach it to my new ProBook, at least long enough to grab what data is there? I have a backup but it may be a few days or even a month older than what's on the disk. Is there a permanent way to attach that drive to the new machine? (Such as get a shell case and maybe a USB connection or whatever... just guessing.) -- Arthur From df.waters at outlook.com Tue Mar 20 08:14:58 2018 From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:14:58 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hardware harvesting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Arthur, On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Inateck-FE2004-External-Drive-Enclosure/dp/B00JQTO8TU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521551581&sr=8-3&keywords=2.5+ssd+enclosure I have a couple of these and they are sometimes quite handy. Good Luck! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: March 20, 2018 08:11 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Hardware harvesting About a month ago, my beloved Dell laptop died. I'm not positive, but a freak electrical storm and neighbourhood-wide power outage may have been the cause. At any rate, the motherboard got fried, and maybe also the CPU. There is a 1TB hard disk still inside it. Is there any way I can remove it and attach it to my new ProBook, at least long enough to grab what data is there? I have a backup but it may be a few days or even a month older than what's on the disk. Is there a permanent way to attach that drive to the new machine? (Such as get a shell case and maybe a USB connection or whatever... just guessing.) -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 08:47:17 2018 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:47:17 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hardware harvesting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Search for a Hard Drive Docking Station. I have a couple. Mine take either a 2.5 laptop sized hard drive or a 3.5 desktop size drive and connect via either USB or ESATA. I use them to do backups and to switch to SSD drives or to larger rotating drives. They work great. This is just an example https://www.bestbuy.com/site/startech-com-usb-3-0-hard-drive-docking-station-black/5708134.p?skuId=5708134 there are models with two and even four drive spots so you can copy from one drive to another. GK On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > About a month ago, my beloved Dell laptop died. I'm not positive, but a > freak electrical storm and neighbourhood-wide power outage may have been > the cause. At any rate, the motherboard got fried, and maybe also the CPU. > > There is a 1TB hard disk still inside it. Is there any way I can remove it > and attach it to my new ProBook, at least long enough to grab what data is > there? I have a backup but it may be a few days or even a month older than > what's on the disk. > > Is there a permanent way to attach that drive to the new machine? (Such as > get a shell case and maybe a USB connection or whatever... just guessing.) > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 08:53:38 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:53:38 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Hardware harvesting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, guys. Arthur ? From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 08:55:55 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:55:55 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] HP ProBook In-Reply-To: <00f301d3c049$dbce91d0$936bb570$@gmail.com> References: <009401d3c049$1f6cb580$5e462080$@gmail.com> <00f301d3c049$dbce91d0$936bb570$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Wow! How cool is that? On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Yes -- let me find a link for you. > > r+adapter&tag=mh > 0b-20&index=aps&hvadid=78615135982021&hvqmt=b&hvbmt=bb& > hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_16i > lc6iror_b > > > > > I bought mine at Walmart. > > Susan H. From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Mar 21 05:47:25 2018 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 10:47:25 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Facebook Message-ID: Hi all I hadn't imagined it could get that much worse in just one month. The only decent action here is the sign-off by their security officer. FB is a greedy monster. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 15. februar 2018 11:34 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] OT: Facebook Hi all If you haven't already signed off Facebook, now is the time: Facebook Turned Its Two-Factor Security 'Feature' Into the Worst Kind of Spam https://gizmodo.com/facebook-turned-its-two-factor-security-feature-into-th-1823006334 Facebook is pushing its data-tracking Onavo VPN within its main mobile app https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/12/facebook-starts-pushing-its-data-tracking-onavo-vpn-within-its-main-mobile-app/ Scaring. I'm glad, I've never joined this evil virus. /gustav From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Mar 21 11:34:55 2018 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 09:34:55 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Facebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <012701d3c132$8bbab130$a3301390$@bchacc.com> They need to change their business model. Which means that a lot of shareholder value is going to go away. The best explanation I've heard of the problem was last night on PBS Newshour. Starting at 6:51 there's a summary of the events and then at 10:45 an interview with Roger McNamee, one of Facebook's original investors who gave a startlingly clear explanation of what the problem is at Facebook. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/pbs-newshour-full-episode-march-20-2018 r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 3:47 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Facebook Hi all I hadn't imagined it could get that much worse in just one month. The only decent action here is the sign-off by their security officer. FB is a greedy monster. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 15. februar 2018 11:34 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] OT: Facebook Hi all If you haven't already signed off Facebook, now is the time: Facebook Turned Its Two-Factor Security 'Feature' Into the Worst Kind of Spam https://gizmodo.com/facebook-turned-its-two-factor-security-feature-into-th- 1823006334 Facebook is pushing its data-tracking Onavo VPN within its main mobile app https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/12/facebook-starts-pushing-its-data-tracking- onavo-vpn-within-its-main-mobile-app/ Scaring. I'm glad, I've never joined this evil virus. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Mar 22 18:44:49 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:44:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] iPhone In-Reply-To: <1115194273.381135298.1520870588588.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <1115194273.381135298.1520870588588.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1060528308.414676439.1521762289881.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Another day another new zero day bug and this one is from the iPhone: https://blog.malwarebytes.com/security-world/2018/03/graykey-iphone-unlocker-poses-serious-security-concerns/ http://bit.ly/2GhEDaI These guys are trying to profit as much as possible within the short window they have. How many days do you think this hole will be left open by Apple? Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Mar 23 16:17:19 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:17:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] OT: Facebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <731448168.417672150.1521839839309.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: It seems that one of the curses of many of those insulated (cloistered) within the tech world (Silicon Valley), is that they somehow make the assumption all other are relatively simple minded. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 3:47:25 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Facebook Hi all I hadn't imagined it could get that much worse in just one month. The only decent action here is the sign-off by their security officer. FB is a greedy monster. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock Sendt: 15. februar 2018 11:34 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> Emne: [dba-Tech] OT: Facebook Hi all If you haven't already signed off Facebook, now is the time: Facebook Turned Its Two-Factor Security 'Feature' Into the Worst Kind of Spam https://gizmodo.com/facebook-turned-its-two-factor-security-feature-into-th-1823006334 Facebook is pushing its data-tracking Onavo VPN within its main mobile app https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/12/facebook-starts-pushing-its-data-tracking-onavo-vpn-within-its-main-mobile-app/ Scaring. I'm glad, I've never joined this evil virus. /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Mar 23 16:23:12 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] A nice little editor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <367010933.417689560.1521840192191.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi All: Here is very nice text editor for developers. The editor supports over a hundred language, runs on any platform and is fully open sourced. https://notepadqq.com/s/ Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Mar 23 16:28:08 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:28:08 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Simon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1657173923.417702714.1521840488608.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi All: The following link is to an application, Simon is an open source speech recognition program that can replace your mouse and keyboard: https://simon.kde.org/ It runs of Linux and Windows. A short demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghfMMYNOwXo&feature=youtu.be&t=3m19s http://bit.ly/2INWt3l Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Mar 23 17:17:25 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 16:17:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] New desktops and servers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1924294813.417828937.1521843445125.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi All: 1. Just played with the new Ubuntu 18.04 Mate beta and was very impressed on its screen management. At a friend's place, attached the updated computer to both its monitor and a 65 inch 4K TV. It just booted up and recognized both screens and application menus could be dragged from one surface to the other with no apparent loss in quality or performance: https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/ 2. Sumsung is moving its products from Android Linux (cell phones) and migrating to Tizen Linux. Their TV have been using Tizen for years but by next year they will replace Android: https://www.iotgadgets.com/2018/03/samsung-announces-its-2018-tizen-tv-lineup/ http://bit.ly/2G8YS7i Get Tizen source code from the following: https://source.tizen.org/ 3. The latest version of Jolla or Sailfish ISO has been released. The Linux OS was thought to be dead but fans have not abandoned it and now we have Sailfish version 3. Now there is now a feature phone, Sony?s Xperia XA2. The Sailfish OS is available for all major Operating Systems: https://sailfishos.org/ https://jolla.com/sailfishx-linux-instructions/ https://jolla.com/sailfishx-windows-instructions/ https://jolla.com/sailfishx-macos-instructions/ 4. The latest version of Windows-Linux server is now available for download and review, for beta testers registered on the Insider Program: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Windows-Server-2019-Preview http://bit.ly/2GmBy9o https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/windowsserver/2018/03/20/introducing-windows-server-2019-now-available-in-preview/ http://bit.ly/2Glb203 https://insider.windows.com/en-us/for-business-getting-started-server/ http://bit.ly/2INwrNZ Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Mar 23 17:28:11 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 16:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Clementine music player In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <327173452.417857962.1521844091378.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi All: The Clementine Music Player, though it is much more than that, is available for all major OSs (Even on a Raspberry PI). It also has a Android client that will allow someone to run the server remotely: https://www.clementine-player.org/downloads https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.qspool.clementineremote http://bit.ly/2HZJYR8 Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Mar 23 17:48:37 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 16:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] LineageOS In-Reply-To: <327173452.417857962.1521844091378.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <327173452.417857962.1521844091378.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <544383850.417911438.1521845317808.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi All: Replace the Android on all your old cell phones with LineageOS...give your dated smartphones new life: https://download.lineageos.org/ Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 11:01:44 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:01:44 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account Message-ID: In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of your screen and click *Settings*. 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of your Facebook data*. 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your data. 5. Go to Delete My Account . (This link will take you directly there; no need to login again. There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, else you'll undo what you've just done. -- Arthur From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 11:54:59 2018 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:54:59 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have downloaded my FB data. And looked it all over. All pretty boring stuff at least for other people. I enjoyed looking at all my pictures, posts and comments again. In a 115MB zip file. I keep wondering what everybody else has to hide that they are all up in arms about. Who cares if I like a certain musician or a particular restaurant or golf course? I've always been pretty mindful with keeping my security settings restrictive and have never used Facebook apps or used FB to sign onto other websites etc as that seemed to be a gaping hole. I post pictures of my cats. I post pictures of food I create. I post stories about my golfing escapades. I don't do politics. I don't do religion. I enjoy reading other peoples day in the life stories and seeing pictures of my friends and families animals and children and such. And anyone who thinks that every single keystroke or mouse move you make on EVERY website you visit isn't stored somewhere and analyzed is naive. Have a look at GOOGLE ANALYTICS and ADOBE ANALYTICS and the like. On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of > your screen and click *Settings*. > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of > your Facebook data*. > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your > data. > 5. Go to Delete My Account > . (This > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > else you'll undo what you've just done. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Mar 27 21:40:45 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 20:40:45 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <260151769.429819445.1522204845315.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Cambridge Analytica claims are that with less than ten points of information, from your account, they can construct an excellent profile on who you are. If they acquire 30 points of information, not only do they have enough info for a complete profile but they say they know who you are better than you know yourself. IOW it matters little what information your FB account provides as long as it is enough items. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "garykjos" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:54:59 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account I have downloaded my FB data. And looked it all over. All pretty boring stuff at least for other people. I enjoyed looking at all my pictures, posts and comments again. In a 115MB zip file. I keep wondering what everybody else has to hide that they are all up in arms about. Who cares if I like a certain musician or a particular restaurant or golf course? I've always been pretty mindful with keeping my security settings restrictive and have never used Facebook apps or used FB to sign onto other websites etc as that seemed to be a gaping hole. I post pictures of my cats. I post pictures of food I create. I post stories about my golfing escapades. I don't do politics. I don't do religion. I enjoy reading other peoples day in the life stories and seeing pictures of my friends and families animals and children and such. And anyone who thinks that every single keystroke or mouse move you make on EVERY website you visit isn't stored somewhere and analyzed is naive. Have a look at GOOGLE ANALYTICS and ADOBE ANALYTICS and the like. On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Arthur Fuller gmail.com> wrote: > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of > your screen and click *Settings*. > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of > your Facebook data*. > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your > data. > 5. Go to Delete My Account > . (This > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > else you'll undo what you've just done. > > -- > Arthur > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Mar 27 21:43:45 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 20:43:45 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never be reversed. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of your screen and click *Settings*. 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of your Facebook data*. 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your data. 5. Go to Delete My Account . (This link will take you directly there; no need to login again. There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, else you'll undo what you've just done. -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Mar 28 10:45:57 2018 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 10:45:57 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never be reversed. It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to Zuckerberg's con game. PB ----- > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of > your screen and click *Settings*. > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of > your Facebook data*. > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your > data. > 5. Go to Delete My Account > . (This > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > else you'll undo what you've just done. > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 10:52:42 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:52:42 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Obviously so, but on the other hand millions of people didn't know what they were getting into when they joined Facebook. FB claims well over a billion users, and who knows how much of their data has been harvested. Nothing can be done to un-harvest the data that these many millions have freely provided. But something can be done about the future: first, delete your account, and second, replace the functionality with other software. I shall detail these replacements in my next email. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Peter Brawley wrote: > On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and >> have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never >> be reversed. >> > > It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from > FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to Zuckerberg's > con game. > > PB > > ----- > > > >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Arthur Fuller" >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < >> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to >> delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete >> your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But >> first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. >> >> 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of >> your screen and click *Settings*. >> 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy >> of >> your Facebook data*. >> 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has >> completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log >> out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with >> your >> data. >> 5. Go to Delete My Account >> . (This >> link will take you directly there; no need to login again. >> >> >> There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, >> saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your >> account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, >> else you'll undo what you've just done. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Mar 28 13:08:26 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:08:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all that is necessary. I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any number of open data pools. I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used Cambridge Anayltica data: http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 http://bit.ly/2pMftaz Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never be reversed. It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to Zuckerberg's con game. PB ----- > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of > your screen and click *Settings*. > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of > your Facebook data*. > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your > data. > 5. Go to Delete My Account > . (This > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > else you'll undo what you've just done. > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Mar 28 13:14:23 2018 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:14:23 +0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net>, <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't really give a fiddlers. Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Jim Lawrence Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all that is necessary. I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any number of open data pools. I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used Cambridge Anayltica data: http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 http://bit.ly/2pMftaz Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never be reversed. It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to Zuckerberg's con game. PB ----- > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of > your screen and click *Settings*. > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of > your Facebook data*. > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your > data. > 5. Go to Delete My Account > . (This > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > else you'll undo what you've just done. > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 14:27:32 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:27:32 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: All these views lead me back to my original proposition. The best way to undermine the current database is to create a dozen fictional persons and populate their characteristics with nonsense. I like Iron Butterfly. I am pro-life, I am a lesbian amputee shipped back from an undisclosed war zone, somewhere in the Middle East. I love Beethoven, but not the symphonies, just the quartets. And Johnny Rotten is, like, my hero. I even bought plaid trousers in his honour. So there, Cambridge Anal(itica). File me in some folder or other. A. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:14 PM, Martin Reid wrote: > But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't > really give a fiddlers. > > Martin > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Jim Lawrence > Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or > "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty > tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person > themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never > contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all > that is necessary. > > I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any > number of open data pools. > > I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who > share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". > > Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the > whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used > Cambridge Anayltica data: > > http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 > http://bit.ly/2pMftaz > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and > have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never > be reversed. > > It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from > FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to > Zuckerberg's con game. > > PB > > ----- > > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right > of > > your screen and click *Settings*. > > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy > of > > your Facebook data*. > > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you > log > > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with > your > > data. > > 5. Go to Delete My Account > > . (This > > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > > else you'll undo what you've just done. > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Mar 28 15:44:32 2018 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:44:32 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: On 3/28/2018 13:08, Jim Lawrence wrote: > You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all that is necessary. Sure, if we use a search engine or issue (dis)likes, we're profiled. There's just one way to avoid that---completely anonymise your internet presence. FB is a different Orwellian level--addictive & exploitive by design with other corrosive consequences, so there are reasons beyond desire for privacy to minimise use of it. PB > > I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any number of open data pools. > > I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". > > Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used Cambridge Anayltica data: > > http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 > http://bit.ly/2pMftaz > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never be reversed. > It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from > FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to > Zuckerberg's con game. > > PB > > ----- > >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to >> delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete >> your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But >> first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. >> >> 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of >> your screen and click *Settings*. >> 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of >> your Facebook data*. >> 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has >> completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log >> out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your >> data. >> 5. Go to Delete My Account >> . (This >> link will take you directly there; no need to login again. >> >> >> There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, >> saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your >> account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, >> else you'll undo what you've just done. >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Mar 28 16:22:25 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:22:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <2016914218.432284238.1522272145220.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Those particular pieces of information, CA is not concerned with as much as they are in your preferences. At one point, regardless of any anomalies, your likes and dislikes will out your core personality. The company is only concerned with your voting potential on certain events. Once a profile is constructed, they can almost guarantee, given a certain series of situations and events, which way you will choose. This is what make profiling by a company like Cambridge Analytica, so insidious. There is basically no way to fool it. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:27:32 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account All these views lead me back to my original proposition. The best way to undermine the current database is to create a dozen fictional persons and populate their characteristics with nonsense. I like Iron Butterfly. I am pro-life, I am a lesbian amputee shipped back from an undisclosed war zone, somewhere in the Middle East. I love Beethoven, but not the symphonies, just the quartets. And Johnny Rotten is, like, my hero. I even bought plaid trousers in his honour. So there, Cambridge Anal(itica). File me in some folder or other. A. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:14 PM, Martin Reid wrote: > But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't > really give a fiddlers. > > Martin > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Jim Lawrence > Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or > "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty > tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person > themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never > contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all > that is necessary. > > I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any > number of open data pools. > > I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who > share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". > > Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the > whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used > Cambridge Anayltica data: > > http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 > http://bit.ly/2pMftaz > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and > have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never > be reversed. > > It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from > FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to > Zuckerberg's con game. > > PB > > ----- > > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right > of > > your screen and click *Settings*. > > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy > of > > your Facebook data*. > > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you > log > > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with > your > > data. > > 5. Go to Delete My Account > > . (This > > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > > else you'll undo what you've just done. > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Mar 28 16:45:11 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:45:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <890741333.432343098.1522273511991.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> That's right. It is not until children have matured do they see long term consequences to their action. We are just putting this reality all together in our own minds...it is all moving so fast. Do our offspring stand a chance without informed and vigilant parents? Every parent always tell their children to look left then right (or in your case right then left) and proceed when safe to do so, across the road. It was not always that way...we learned and we taught. Now our kids kids are going to have to be taught the new world order. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Reid" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:14:23 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't really give a fiddlers. Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Jim Lawrence Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all that is necessary. I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any number of open data pools. I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used Cambridge Anayltica data: http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 http://bit.ly/2pMftaz Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never be reversed. It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to Zuckerberg's con game. PB ----- > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of > your screen and click *Settings*. > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy of > your Facebook data*. > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with your > data. > 5. Go to Delete My Account > . (This > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > else you'll undo what you've just done. > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 20:26:03 2018 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:26:03 -0400 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <890741333.432343098.1522273511991.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> <890741333.432343098.1522273511991.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: How do you tell your children that the world is out to get you? How do you explain that the corporations (McDonalds, Burger King, A&W etc. are actively destroying your health? How do I explain this to a child, inundated with millions of dollars of TV ads? ' On the upside, I am without a wife and also kids,so this I guess is an academic question. I have no chestnuts in the fire, as it were. But I want to know, from those among you who have or plan to have, children, I want to know this. The world, thanks to our generation, is going to Hell. Why would you choose to bring a newborn into the chaos that we have created? Explain me this. (My own choice has been that the future world is too ugly to imagine, and therefore my choice is to forego having children. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > That's right. It is not until children have matured do they see long term > consequences to their action. We are just putting this reality all together > in our own minds...it is all moving so fast. Do our offspring stand a > chance without informed and vigilant parents? > > Every parent always tell their children to look left then right (or in > your case right then left) and proceed when safe to do so, across the road. > It was not always that way...we learned and we taught. Now our kids kids > are going to have to be taught the new world order. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:14:23 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't > really give a fiddlers. > > Martin > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Jim Lawrence > Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or > "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty > tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person > themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never > contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all > that is necessary. > > I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any > number of open data pools. > > I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who > share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". > > Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the > whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used > Cambridge Anayltica data: > > http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 > http://bit.ly/2pMftaz > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and > have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never > be reversed. > > It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from > FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to > Zuckerberg's con game. > > PB > > ----- > > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right > of > > your screen and click *Settings*. > > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy > of > > your Facebook data*. > > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you > log > > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with > your > > data. > > 5. Go to Delete My Account > > . (This > > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > > else you'll undo what you've just done. > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur From peter.brawley at earthlink.net Wed Mar 28 21:36:52 2018 From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:36:52 -0500 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> <890741333.432343098.1522273511991.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <16c738a7-9d7e-bbb6-b270-4595ce78e420@earthlink.net> On 3/28/2018 20:26, Arthur Fuller wrote: > How do you tell your children that the world is out to get you? How do you > explain that the corporations (McDonalds, Burger King, A&W etc. are > actively destroying your health? How do I explain this to a child, > inundated with millions of dollars of TV ads? Yeah, when they're young you curate their exposure, and you tell them something very like what you say, and you do all you can to ensure they learn to think critically. Nothing's perfect, but have a listen to 11-year-old Naomi Wadler last Saturday . PB ----- > ' > On the upside, I am without a wife and also kids,so this I guess is an > academic question. I have no chestnuts in the fire, as it were. But I want > to know, from those among you who have or plan to have, children, I want to > know this. The world, thanks to our generation, is going to Hell. Why would > you choose to bring a newborn into the chaos that we have created? Explain > me this. (My own choice has been that the future world is too ugly to > imagine, and therefore my choice is to forego having children. > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> That's right. It is not until children have matured do they see long term >> consequences to their action. We are just putting this reality all together >> in our own minds...it is all moving so fast. Do our offspring stand a >> chance without informed and vigilant parents? >> >> Every parent always tell their children to look left then right (or in >> your case right then left) and proceed when safe to do so, across the road. >> It was not always that way...we learned and we taught. Now our kids kids >> are going to have to be taught the new world order. >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Martin Reid" >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:14:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't >> really give a fiddlers. >> >> Martin >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> ________________________________ >> From: Jim Lawrence >> Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or >> "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty >> tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person >> themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never >> contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all >> that is necessary. >> >> I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any >> number of open data pools. >> >> I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who >> share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". >> >> Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the >> whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used >> Cambridge Anayltica data: >> >> http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 >> http://bit.ly/2pMftaz >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "peter brawley"brawley at earthlink.net> >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: >>> Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and >> have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never >> be reversed. >> >> It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from >> FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to >> Zuckerberg's con game. >> >> PB >> >> ----- >> >>> Jim >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> >>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >>> >>> In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to >>> delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete >>> your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But >>> first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. >>> >>> 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right >> of >>> your screen and click *Settings*. >>> 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy >> of >>> your Facebook data*. >>> 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has >>> completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you >> log >>> out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with >> your >>> data. >>> 5. Go to Delete My Account >>> . (This >>> link will take you directly there; no need to login again. >>> >>> >>> There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, >>> saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your >>> account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, >>> else you'll undo what you've just done. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website:http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website:http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website:http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website:http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Mar 28 23:05:19 2018 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:05:19 -0700 Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> <890741333.432343098.1522273511991.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <017001d3c713$272cf480$7586dd80$@bchacc.com> I don't accept your premises " The world, thanks to our generation, is going to Hell." Bzzzt! Sorry. Incorrect. That is a qualitative personal view of the world. I don't accept it as a given. There are many great things about this world given to the world by our generation that would not exist if not for our generation. But I don't argue that you see the world that way - that you judge the balance of good versus bad to be so over weighted to bad that it looks like chaos to you - like Hell. ". Why would you choose to bring a newborn into the chaos that we have created?" Bzzzt! I'm sorry. But that conjecture is incorrect. It is not my view of the world. Nor many others that I know. How many? Who knows? But I don't argue that you see the world that way - that you judge the balance of good versus bad to be so over weighted to bad that it looks like chaos to you - like Hell. Both of our experiences of this world are sooooo limited. I discount information brought to us by the media as it is not representative and therefore misleading. So really it's only personal experiences that can be used to inform our view. Does what's going on in North Korea qualify as chaos? Would I decide not to have children because of Kim? Or Trump? No. Or because of the homeless? Or because of Africans starving? Or because white policemen shoot black people? Would I choose not to have children because of the Pacific garbage patch? Or Fukushima? Would I choose to remain childless because of gun violence or because of opioid deaths? This is not my view of the world and so it is not the view of the world that I gave to my children. There are things to be aware of in this world. It's not friendly in a lot of places that they are very unlikely to find themselves anyway. But there is so much light in the world, so much good. So many fine people. So many wonderful places and things. If you immerse yourself in those things instead of the dark, fearful, depressing things, you see that the world is not a chaotic Hell. But you have to decide what to see. It's your choice. There's lots of good and lots of bad. Whether you think the world is a wonderful place or chaotic Hell is not a logical evidence based deduction. It's YOUR CHOICE. You have made your choice. I have made mine. You have gone over to the dark side. By choice. Make a different choice. See a different world. r -----Original Message----- From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:26 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account How do you tell your children that the world is out to get you? How do you explain that the corporations (McDonalds, Burger King, A&W etc. are actively destroying your health? How do I explain this to a child, inundated with millions of dollars of TV ads? ' On the upside, I am without a wife and also kids,so this I guess is an academic question. I have no chestnuts in the fire, as it were. But I want to know, from those among you who have or plan to have, children, I want to know this. The world, thanks to our generation, is going to Hell. Why would you choose to bring a newborn into the chaos that we have created? Explain me this. (My own choice has been that the future world is too ugly to imagine, and therefore my choice is to forego having children. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > That's right. It is not until children have matured do they see long > term consequences to their action. We are just putting this reality > all together in our own minds...it is all moving so fast. Do our > offspring stand a chance without informed and vigilant parents? > > Every parent always tell their children to look left then right (or in > your case right then left) and proceed when safe to do so, across the road. > It was not always that way...we learned and we taught. Now our kids > kids are going to have to be taught the new world order. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:14:23 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't > really give a fiddlers. > > Martin > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Jim Lawrence > Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or > "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With > thirty tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than > the person themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have > never contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary > tagging is all that is necessary. > > I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to > any number of open data pools. > > I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those > who share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". > > Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the > whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used > Cambridge Anayltica data: > > http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 > http://bit.ly/2pMftaz > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide > > and > have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can > never be reversed. > > It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested > from FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to > Zuckerberg's con game. > > PB > > ----- > > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted > > to delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy > > to delete your account. What follows is a concise recipe for > > achieving this. But first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top > > right > of > > your screen and click *Settings*. > > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a > > copy > of > > your Facebook data*. > > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the > > process has completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I > > suggest that you > log > > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been > > with > your > > data. > > 5. Go to Delete My Account > > . (This link will take > > you directly there; no need to login again. > > > > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another > > message, saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to > > physically remove your account. Under no circumstance revisit your > > account during this period, else you'll undo what you've just done. > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Mar 29 00:11:08 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:11:08 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> <890741333.432343098.1522273511991.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <520097163.433318624.1522300268693.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> You do what you do as a proper parent. There has always been danger...first it was animals and nature, then other tribes and now it has evolved to businesses and government agencies. All children have to be carefully taught about the dangers out side the home but they also must be taught to see the good in societies and people. The final lesson that must be taught is how to be an agent for change towards a better world. It may all sound complicated but when all else fails the most important gift that can ever be shared, with our children, is how to think. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:26:03 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account How do you tell your children that the world is out to get you? How do you explain that the corporations (McDonalds, Burger King, A&W etc. are actively destroying your health? How do I explain this to a child, inundated with millions of dollars of TV ads? ' On the upside, I am without a wife and also kids,so this I guess is an academic question. I have no chestnuts in the fire, as it were. But I want to know, from those among you who have or plan to have, children, I want to know this. The world, thanks to our generation, is going to Hell. Why would you choose to bring a newborn into the chaos that we have created? Explain me this. (My own choice has been that the future world is too ugly to imagine, and therefore my choice is to forego having children. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > That's right. It is not until children have matured do they see long term > consequences to their action. We are just putting this reality all together > in our own minds...it is all moving so fast. Do our offspring stand a > chance without informed and vigilant parents? > > Every parent always tell their children to look left then right (or in > your case right then left) and proceed when safe to do so, across the road. > It was not always that way...we learned and we taught. Now our kids kids > are going to have to be taught the new world order. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Reid" > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:14:23 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't > really give a fiddlers. > > Martin > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Jim Lawrence > Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or > "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty > tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person > themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never > contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all > that is necessary. > > I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any > number of open data pools. > > I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who > share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". > > Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the > whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used > Cambridge Anayltica data: > > http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 > http://bit.ly/2pMftaz > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and > have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never > be reversed. > > It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from > FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to > Zuckerberg's con game. > > PB > > ----- > > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account > > > > In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to > > delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete > > your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But > > first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. > > > > 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right > of > > your screen and click *Settings*. > > 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy > of > > your Facebook data*. > > 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has > > completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you > log > > out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with > your > > data. > > 5. Go to Delete My Account > > . (This > > link will take you directly there; no need to login again. > > > > > > There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, > > saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your > > account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, > > else you'll undo what you've just done. > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Mar 29 00:33:07 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:33:07 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: <16c738a7-9d7e-bbb6-b270-4595ce78e420@earthlink.net> References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> <2011248313.431778234.1522260506625.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0A77DDB@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk> <890741333.432343098.1522273511991.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <16c738a7-9d7e-bbb6-b270-4595ce78e420@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1445518138.433361757.1522301587388.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Right on. :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter brawley" To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 7:36:52 PM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account On 3/28/2018 20:26, Arthur Fuller wrote: > How do you tell your children that the world is out to get you? How do you > explain that the corporations (McDonalds, Burger King, A&W etc. are > actively destroying your health? How do I explain this to a child, > inundated with millions of dollars of TV ads? Yeah, when they're young you curate their exposure, and you tell them something very like what you say, and you do all you can to ensure they learn to think critically. Nothing's perfect, but have a listen to 11-year-old Naomi Wadler last Saturday . PB ----- > ' > On the upside, I am without a wife and also kids,so this I guess is an > academic question. I have no chestnuts in the fire, as it were. But I want > to know, from those among you who have or plan to have, children, I want to > know this. The world, thanks to our generation, is going to Hell. Why would > you choose to bring a newborn into the chaos that we have created? Explain > me this. (My own choice has been that the future world is too ugly to > imagine, and therefore my choice is to forego having children. > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> That's right. It is not until children have matured do they see long term >> consequences to their action. We are just putting this reality all together >> in our own minds...it is all moving so fast. Do our offspring stand a >> chance without informed and vigilant parents? >> >> Every parent always tell their children to look left then right (or in >> your case right then left) and proceed when safe to do so, across the road. >> It was not always that way...we learned and we taught. Now our kids kids >> are going to have to be taught the new world order. >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Martin Reid" >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:14:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> But the important target markets , kids, teenagers, women, men don't >> really give a fiddlers. >> >> Martin >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> ________________________________ >> From: Jim Lawrence >> Sent: ?28/?03/?2018 19:09 >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> You are right but according to CA's CEO, all it takes is "likes" or >> "dislikes" on ten items to create a strong personal profile. With thirty >> tags, he said we have a in-depth profile with more insight than the person >> themselves knows. So it does not even matter that you have never >> contributed to a FB conversation...just the most rudimentary tagging is all >> that is necessary. >> >> I would suspect that Cambridge Analytica also cross-indexes result to any >> number of open data pools. >> >> I think Mark Zuckerberg, best summed it up with his opinion on those who >> share everything on social media and expect alsolute privacy, "dumb F**KS". >> >> Chris Wylie is a "credit to Canada," says a Labour MP who heard the >> whistleblower's explosive testimony about how the Leave campaign used >> Cambridge Anayltica data: >> >> http://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/as-it-happens/segment/15532139 >> http://bit.ly/2pMftaz >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "peter brawley"brawley at earthlink.net> >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:45:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: >>> Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and >> have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never >> be reversed. >> >> It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from >> FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to >> Zuckerberg's con game. >> >> PB >> >> ----- >> >>> Jim >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> >>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >>> >>> In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to >>> delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete >>> your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But >>> first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. >>> >>> 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right >> of >>> your screen and click *Settings*. >>> 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy >> of >>> your Facebook data*. >>> 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has >>> completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you >> log >>> out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with >> your >>> data. >>> 5. Go to Delete My Account >>> . (This >>> link will take you directly there; no need to login again. >>> >>> >>> There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, >>> saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your >>> account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, >>> else you'll undo what you've just done. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website:http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website:http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website:http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website:http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Mar 30 00:56:00 2018 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 23:56:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account In-Reply-To: References: <1800733866.429825480.1522205025119.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <199c552c-74df-ea3f-3752-7fe18917f1c1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <339816768.437064912.1522389360046.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Hi All: Facebook like all other businesses which handle large numbers of people are being harvested by the NSA...period. There is no way that any business in the US can legally refuse to surrender their data, once requested...anything deemed in the interest of national security. Refusal is treason. China is just as paranoid as the US deep state. The only difference, I can see is that, the Chinese government actually blocks sites they deem as potential security leaks or anti-state government sites. We here are slightly different, in that we just monitor divergent sites, black list them and attempt to disrupt them as much as possible. It all end up the same of course. Things to never do...never have any of your websites hosted in China, the US, in Russia or the UK. Europe still have laws that protect personal rights and freedoms. The country with the strongest personal freedom laws, I understand, is Switzerland but the rest of Europe is all fairly good. Canada, went to the dark side when it allowed the passage, within the previous Harper government and then continued to maintain bill C-51, in compliance with US norms. I know this is a tech group and not supposed to be political but we as techs are most affected when governments start intruding into areas that they have no understanding of. The Facebook breach was horrible but all our social networking has been completely breached for some time. But it is good to see that people are finally catching up and catching on. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:52:42 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account Obviously so, but on the other hand millions of people didn't know what they were getting into when they joined Facebook. FB claims well over a billion users, and who knows how much of their data has been harvested. Nothing can be done to un-harvest the data that these many millions have freely provided. But something can be done about the future: first, delete your account, and second, replace the functionality with other software. I shall detail these replacements in my next email. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Peter Brawley brawley at earthlink.net > wrote: > On 3/27/2018 21:43, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> Its too late Arthur. The doors of the proverbial barn are open wide and >> have been for quite some time. What has been done is done and it can never >> be reversed. >> > > It ain't all-or-none. What you never post on FB can't be harvested from > FB, and there's an argument for not contributing in any way to Zuckerberg's > con game. > > PB > > ----- > > > >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Arthur Fuller" gmail.com> >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < >> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:01:44 AM >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Deleting your Facebook account >> >> In the light of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco, you may be tempted to >> delete your Facebook account. FB certainly doesn't make it easy to delete >> your account. What follows is a concise recipe for achieving this. But >> first a little preamble, that may help you in future adventures. >> >> 1. Visit Facebook in your browser. Drop down the arrow at the top right of >> your screen and click *Settings*. >> 2. At the bottom of the General Account Settings, click *Download a copy >> of >> your Facebook data*. >> 3. Select *Start My Archive*. This may take a while. When the process has >> completed, you'll see a little pop-up notification. I suggest that you log >> out and inspect this file, if only to realize how lax you've been with >> your >> data. >> 5. Go to Delete My Account >> . (This >> link will take you directly there; no need to login again. >> >> >> There, it's done. You're free at last. You will receive another message, >> saying that it could take up to 2 weeks for FB to physically remove your >> account. Under no circumstance revisit your account during this period, >> else you'll undo what you've just done. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jon at tydda.plus.com Tue Mar 6 09:03:29 2018 From: jon at tydda.plus.com (Jon Tydda) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:03:29 -0000 Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues In-Reply-To: <19ae2ce1-61ee-90b6-b4bf-4fed95cef3bf@torchlake.com> References: <016401d3b403$0c0bae30$24230a90$@bchacc.com> <42e5eafc-e8df-11da-e086-4e772851faab@torchlake.com> <1479654390.360574058.1520281794294.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <19ae2ce1-61ee-90b6-b4bf-4fed95cef3bf@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <65DC5667-62E4-469D-B0A0-C1CBCFA6D014@tydda.plus.com> Hi Tina No need to reinstall the OS, just download the patch mentioned in this article: http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-bug-microsoft-fixes-issue-that-broke-usb-built-in-cameras-keyboards/ Jon Sent from one's iPhone > On 5 Mar 2018, at 21:02, Tina N Fields wrote: > > Thanks, Jim, for the kind words. > > I think we have now established that it is a corruption of some kind in the OS. We will reinstall the OS tomorrow morning. > > So, while I wasn't looking, we stopped having to worry about drivers? You know I didn't realize that. > > Regards, > T > > Tina Norris Fields > 231-322-2787 > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > >> On 3/5/2018 3:29 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: >> With someone with your skills sets this is a no-brainer. >> >> My question is what is this about drivers? It has been years since the appropriate drivers have been any issue...all OSs I am familiar with come with a substantial set of drivers, will automatically download any unusual driver sets and only in some very odd case but then the hardware builder supply the driver. The hardware you have described is common. >> >> To my way of thinking there must be some other cause... Motherboard failure? Internal power supply failure? Erratic power supply and no UPS? etc. >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tinanfields" >> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 8:21:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >> >> That would certainly seem to be the best idea at this point. >> >> I'm not entirely sure I can make that happen. She has none of the >> documentation I would expect her to have, no installation disks, no >> nothing. It's a bit frustrating. >> >> If I could be certain her backup was good, I might simply find the >> utility for resetting to factory condition. But, now, I'm not sure that >> her WD MyBook backup is good. I plugged it into my computer and my >> computer didn't see it, either. And, of course, she can't find the >> installation materials for that drive either. (This is just so unlike >> her - I'm dismayed.) >> >> Clearly, there was more than one problem. The first was the awfully slow >> boot - 20 - 30 minutes (no kidding!). That one I fixed by disabling the >> "fast boot" feature. The second problem is that the computer refuses to >> recognize the USB optical mouse - which suddenly happened, it seems >> about six weeks ago. When I suggested she make sure she had all her >> documents and photos backed up, we suddenly discovered that the WD hard >> drive was not showing up in the "This PC" file explorer window - but, I >> don't really know how long ago that disappearance occurred. >> >> Because Jeanne uses the "Well, I mentioned it several times a few weeks >> ago" method, rather than the "There's something wrong with my computer >> and I could use a little help" method of getting around to actually >> asking for help, a lot of time goes by - apparently close to two full >> months. So, there's no recent restore point that will help - and there >> are no long ago restore points available - they all got deleted by the >> system storage settings. So, I can't just restore the computer to an >> earlier stage. >> >> I suspect a Windows 10 update managed to break things, maybe corrupted a >> few necessary dll files. I don't have her installation disks. I don't >> have a license to download the ISO that Helmut suggested. I have spent >> over 10 hours testing cables, searching for updated drivers, >> uninstalling devices and letting the computer check for hardware >> changes, etc. I wish I knew exactly which dlls the WD hard drive and the >> Logitech mouse need - I could go get fresh copies from other computers >> and copy them in. I just don't know what to do next. >> >> Dang! >> >> T >> >> Tina Norris Fields >> 231-322-2787 >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> >>> On 3/4/2018 4:52 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: >>> Can you reload the OS? Maybe that would work around the problem. >>> >>> r >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina N Fields >>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:25 AM >>> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Widows 10 issues >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> My friend, Jeanne, has a Windows 10 laptop computer. >>> >>> Suddenly, it started taking upwards of 20 minutes to boot up. Suddenly, it no longer recognizes her Logitech V220 cordless optical mouse. >>> Suddenly, it no longer sees her external WesternDigital hard drive. >>> >>> I found the solution to the slow boot - it is the fast boot feature that is the culprit. Disabled that feature and the foot time is back to normal. >>> >>> Explored the mouse thing. In the Device Manager, the USB receiver entries are all marked with the warning info icon and all claim that no drivers have been installed for this device. I've searched for updated drivers for the mouse and cannot find them. Some sites claim to have the necessary drivers, but require registration and payment - and I'm not going there. Logitech support doesn't appear to provide any drivers for this mouse. When I delete the entries and then insert the USB receiver-sender device, a pop-up tells me the device is being set up, but the mouse is never recognized. Does anybody have experience with this? It happened suddenly, as though some recent Windows update broke things - maybe rewrote a DLL somewhere that this mouse was relying on. >>> >>> Explore the hard drive issue, so far without success. The drive is powered. It was recognized in the Computer drives the last time I had looked - a couple weeks ago, I think. It simply does not appear any more. I've tried plugging it into different USB ports - same result: >>> nothing. I took a flash drive and tried it in all the USB ports. That works just fine, so I don't think it is faulty ports. I'm going to get another cable and see if it is possibly just a sudden cable failure. >>> >>> Sorry to be so long-winded. Does anybody have a suggestion? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> T >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Norris Fields >>> 231-322-2787 >>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com