From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Sep  2 06:08:34 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 05:08:34 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to list the files created today?
In-Reply-To: <5B89D14D.20887.3E3E42E0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <20180831100237.86c3debdd1c3983866efe200e2feb95f.3bbd050867.wbe@email25.godaddy.com>
	<5B89D14D.20887.3E3E42E0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <812912071.392177846.1535886514447.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

I have been using a product called FSearch for a couple of years. I have never seen an app that could search 500K records instantaneously, across a network. Interestingly it was built by a fellow after he had seen "Everything":

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/fsearch-fast-file-search-tool-linux
...and...
https://github.com/cboxdoerfer/fsearch

Jim   

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "rockysmolin" <RockySmolin at bchacc.com>, "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 4:37:49 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to list the files created today?

Another vote for Everything. +1

On 31 Aug 2018 at 10:02, RockySmolin at bchacc.com wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> I have been using Everytging from voidtools, couldn?nt get through a
> day without using it 2-3 times at least.  Strongly recommend it. It
> will do what you want and much more. And instant results.
> 
> 
> r
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [dba-Tech] How to list the files created today?
> From: Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, August 31, 2018 9:04 am
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> 
> Does anyone have an idea for how to do this? I save dozens of files
> daily, in various directories, to the point where I forget what I've
> saved and where I've saved them. Is there some magic bat or cmd file I
> could run to refresh my failing memory?
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Sep  8 17:42:09 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 16:42:09 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to fix your Windows computer
In-Reply-To: <1488479641.280166621.1534180702135.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0B204E3@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<193233447.226880750.1533322379350.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<666457984.229445128.1533363272973.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<774454008.246952573.1533660876765.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1836330607.246959063.1533660999710.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<2031385306.247013067.1533661818763.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<631302159.272711396.1534058754971.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<1488479641.280166621.1534180702135.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <325034159.431481203.1536446529155.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

If your Windows computer is toasted or borked just use a Ubuntu 18.04 Linux boot CD or USB stick. Boot up via the media, select "live" mode, which runs a full version of Ubuntu in memory and the start the recovery. 

>From this position a corrupted disk can be repaired, a boot track fixed, drivers added, passwords changed and so on. Below is a link giving instructions on how to solve a couple of Windows issues...and it doesn't cost a fortune or proprietary software.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2147063/linux-to-the-rescue-how-ubuntu-can-help-a-computer-in-distress.html
http://bit.ly/2Nv2Q0S

Jim

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Sep  8 20:59:34 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 11:59:34 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to fix your Windows computer
In-Reply-To: <325034159.431481203.1536446529155.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0B204E3@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>,
	<1488479641.280166621.1534180702135.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>,
	<325034159.431481203.1536446529155.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5B947E86.14032.232B8992@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I prefer to use Hiren's



On 8 Sep 2018 at 16:42, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> If your Windows computer is toasted or borked just use a Ubuntu 18.04
> Linux boot CD or USB stick. Boot up via the media, select "live" mode,
> which runs a full version of Ubuntu in memory and the start the
> recovery. 
> 
> From this position a corrupted disk can be repaired, a boot track
> fixed, drivers added, passwords changed and so on. Below is a link
> giving instructions on how to solve a couple of Windows issues...and
> it doesn't cost a fortune or proprietary software.
> 
> https://www.pcworld.com/article/2147063/linux-to-the-rescue-how-ubuntu
> -can-help-a-computer-in-distress.html http://bit.ly/2Nv2Q0S
> 
> Jim
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> 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Sep  8 23:14:51 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 22:14:51 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] How to fix your Windows computer
In-Reply-To: <5B947E86.14032.232B8992@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0B204E3@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<1488479641.280166621.1534180702135.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<325034159.431481203.1536446529155.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5B947E86.14032.232B8992@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1986718276.432673009.1536466491535.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Stuart:

It sounds like an excellent product. I have used many of the apps individually that are included in this master collection. 

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 6:59:34 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] How to fix your Windows computer

I prefer to use Hiren's



On 8 Sep 2018 at 16:42, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> If your Windows computer is toasted or borked just use a Ubuntu 18.04
> Linux boot CD or USB stick. Boot up via the media, select "live" mode,
> which runs a full version of Ubuntu in memory and the start the
> recovery. 
> 
> From this position a corrupted disk can be repaired, a boot track
> fixed, drivers added, passwords changed and so on. Below is a link
> giving instructions on how to solve a couple of Windows issues...and
> it doesn't cost a fortune or proprietary software.
> 
> https://www.pcworld.com/article/2147063/linux-to-the-rescue-how-ubuntu
> -can-help-a-computer-in-distress.html http://bit.ly/2Nv2Q0S
> 
> Jim
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> 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Sep 18 00:30:10 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:30:10 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Encryption
In-Reply-To: <1986718276.432673009.1536466491535.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <976E500DD0AF35409874A413967BFAECA0B204E3@EX2K10-MBX5.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<1488479641.280166621.1534180702135.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<325034159.431481203.1536446529155.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5B947E86.14032.232B8992@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<1986718276.432673009.1536466491535.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <358589427.487524108.1537248610704.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

The question has been posed that when Quantum Computers finally become operation encryption and privacy as we know will be over.

Fortunately, this is not the case. There have been some huge strides in encryption technology and when quantum computing becomes common the world will still have security. What is Quantum computing and how will it impact us:

https://www.cryptomathic.com/news-events/blog/quantum-computing-and-its-impact-on-cryptography

Will quantum computing break all encryption?:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/why-quantum-computers-might-not-break-cryptography-20170515/

Resistance is not futile:
https://wire.com/blog/post-quantum-resistance-wire/

A few of the many projects making better encryption:
https://csrc.nist.gov/Projects/Post-Quantum-Cryptography/Round-1-Submissions

In summary; by the time quantum computing is being used by governments and other criminals, to freely monitor all, there will be another impregnable wall of Post-Quantum-Cryptography.

Jim

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 19:25:54 2018
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 00:25:54 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>

I've tried several times to create the WP blog of my desire, and failed
miserably 100% of the time. So my first question is, How can I delete my
failed attempts? There are several, with slightly different names, and I'd
like to nuke them all and start over. How can I accomplish this?

2. I have sketched (in text) an outline of precisely what I intend the blog
to look like; it's possible that I misunderstand the concept of a blog, and
that maybe what I ought to be creating is a website rather than a blog.

3. I'm feeling totally overwhelmed by WP, and maybe I'm starting off with a
goal far beyond my capabilities, but given that I have an outline and a
concept of the home page, I don't know how to proceed from my text outline
to the result, and frankly find the WP UI confusing and a tad intimidating.

4. I chose to do this is WP because the desired result will be primarily
text (perhaps with graphics within said text). I think of The New York
Review of Books as my model; a Front Page listing the latest posts, buttons
narrowing the posts by subject (i.e. physics, politics, film), and so on.

5. I'm having trouble distinguishing when I'm logging on as Admin or
Reader, and need some help with this.

6. Perhaps my initial mistake was my decision to create a blog rather than
a site. The more I consider this, the more I gravitate toward the position
that my initial mistake was to think of my intention as a blog, but perhaps
I'm underestimating the capabilities of a blog, or perhaps not. I want to
wake up and write something(s) each morning, and categorize those writings,
and have them easily searched into the previous writings, and for any
interested readers to post.

In sum, I have a pretty solid idea what I intend, but am having massive
difficulties getting from Here to There. Suggestions, pointers to relevant
tutorials, etc. would be most welcome. Maybe I should begin with something
less ambitious? But that returns us to Question 1: how to destroy failed
attempts easily?

That would enable me to start anew, and not occupy the WP space with my
abortive attempts.

-- 
Arthur

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Sep 19 09:42:51 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:42:51 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe
Message-ID: <002601d45027$0af51ed0$20df5c70$@bchacc.com>

I keep the amount of spam coming to my mailbox by unsubscribing pretty
diligently.  Lately though I've been getting spammed where the To address is
odd looking - not my address - yet it's still getting to me.  Got one today
from a company touting me on gold for my IRA.  The to address is

 

44780wfs41523b8v2m7 at j328ptp.submu.win
<https://email25.godaddy.com/webmail.php> 

 

Somehow I think pasting that in the unsubscribe box is not going to do the
trick.  But what up with that?

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

 

 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Sep 19 09:44:08 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:44:08 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1720801223.496081924.1537368248666.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Arthur:

The questions you are asking could fill a book but...

If you want to have a operational Word Press and you haven't installed it before or not for a long time, I would search out a step by step installation guide, follow it and get a basic instance running before getting fancy. 

Every new install should over-right previously failed installs so that shouldn't be a problem. If your WP, is going to be a forward facing application, with input fields, check out a security guide as there are so many "holes" a scrip kiddie can hack or more accurately walk through.  

After, everything has been tested then you can start coding in or downloading various GUI layouts along their associated features.

HTH
Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 5:25:54 PM
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)

I've tried several times to create the WP blog of my desire, and failed
miserably 100% of the time. So my first question is, How can I delete my
failed attempts? There are several, with slightly different names, and I'd
like to nuke them all and start over. How can I accomplish this?

2. I have sketched (in text) an outline of precisely what I intend the blog
to look like; it's possible that I misunderstand the concept of a blog, and
that maybe what I ought to be creating is a website rather than a blog.

3. I'm feeling totally overwhelmed by WP, and maybe I'm starting off with a
goal far beyond my capabilities, but given that I have an outline and a
concept of the home page, I don't know how to proceed from my text outline
to the result, and frankly find the WP UI confusing and a tad intimidating.

4. I chose to do this is WP because the desired result will be primarily
text (perhaps with graphics within said text). I think of The New York
Review of Books as my model; a Front Page listing the latest posts, buttons
narrowing the posts by subject (i.e. physics, politics, film), and so on.

5. I'm having trouble distinguishing when I'm logging on as Admin or
Reader, and need some help with this.

6. Perhaps my initial mistake was my decision to create a blog rather than
a site. The more I consider this, the more I gravitate toward the position
that my initial mistake was to think of my intention as a blog, but perhaps
I'm underestimating the capabilities of a blog, or perhaps not. I want to
wake up and write something(s) each morning, and categorize those writings,
and have them easily searched into the previous writings, and for any
interested readers to post.

In sum, I have a pretty solid idea what I intend, but am having massive
difficulties getting from Here to There. Suggestions, pointers to relevant
tutorials, etc. would be most welcome. Maybe I should begin with something
less ambitious? But that returns us to Question 1: how to destroy failed
attempts easily?

That would enable me to start anew, and not occupy the WP space with my
abortive attempts.

-- 
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Sep 19 12:17:32 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:17:32 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <002601d45027$0af51ed0$20df5c70$@bchacc.com>
References: <002601d45027$0af51ed0$20df5c70$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <297863552.496914951.1537377452596.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

When a site or pop-up appears and I am unsure of it origins, I just right-mouse-click and select "View Page Source" or <ctrl> + "u". Generally a quick scan reveals any code that directs or posts input data out then, if curious follow it or check the destination's particulars. I tend to use the resources of some site like:

https://whois.domaintools.com/

If more specific info is required and your using Firefox, just right-mouse-click the element in question and select "Inspect Element" from the pop-down menu. From there you can do a full inspection on the selected element or anything else related to in the site; styles, style editors, debugger, performance, memory, data sources, any activity, warning on if a site has links to non "https" locations etc etc... Also pay attention to the list of site errors and further explanations (anything from coding errors to cross-platform jumps). 

If I was concerned about the "To" address, in your case, I would just call up "GoDaddy" and ask. It may be legit after all or it may imply that someone has hacked and/or stolen some of their code for nefarious reasons. 

Jim

PS It might be worth your while to upgrade your business sites from "http" to "https". I am sure your website hosts can do that (unless you rolled your own). It wouldn't be long before all "http" sites will come up with a warning screen to all your site viewers. 

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:42:51 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe

I keep the amount of spam coming to my mailbox by unsubscribing pretty
diligently.  Lately though I've been getting spammed where the To address is
odd looking - not my address - yet it's still getting to me.  Got one today
from a company touting me on gold for my IRA.  The to address is

 

44780wfs41523b8v2m7 at j328ptp.submu.win
<https://email25.godaddy.com/webmail.php> 

 

Somehow I think pasting that in the unsubscribe box is not going to do the
trick.  But what up with that?

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

 

 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Sep 19 12:46:16 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:46:16 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <297863552.496914951.1537377452596.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <002601d45027$0af51ed0$20df5c70$@bchacc.com>
	<297863552.496914951.1537377452596.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <007201d45040$aaa97bb0$fffc7310$@bchacc.com>

Thanks Jim

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:18 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe

When a site or pop-up appears and I am unsure of it origins, I just
right-mouse-click and select "View Page Source" or <ctrl> + "u". Generally a
quick scan reveals any code that directs or posts input data out then, if
curious follow it or check the destination's particulars. I tend to use the
resources of some site like:

https://whois.domaintools.com/

If more specific info is required and your using Firefox, just
right-mouse-click the element in question and select "Inspect Element" from
the pop-down menu. From there you can do a full inspection on the selected
element or anything else related to in the site; styles, style editors,
debugger, performance, memory, data sources, any activity, warning on if a
site has links to non "https" locations etc etc... Also pay attention to the
list of site errors and further explanations (anything from coding errors to
cross-platform jumps). 

If I was concerned about the "To" address, in your case, I would just call
up "GoDaddy" and ask. It may be legit after all or it may imply that someone
has hacked and/or stolen some of their code for nefarious reasons. 

Jim

PS It might be worth your while to upgrade your business sites from "http"
to "https". I am sure your website hosts can do that (unless you rolled your
own). It wouldn't be long before all "http" sites will come up with a
warning screen to all your site viewers. 

----- Original Message -----
From: "rockysmolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:42:51 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe

I keep the amount of spam coming to my mailbox by unsubscribing pretty
diligently.  Lately though I've been getting spammed where the To address is
odd looking - not my address - yet it's still getting to me.  Got one today
from a company touting me on gold for my IRA.  The to address is

 

44780wfs41523b8v2m7 at j328ptp.submu.win
<https://email25.godaddy.com/webmail.php> 

 

Somehow I think pasting that in the unsubscribe box is not going to do the
trick.  But what up with that?

 

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

760-683-5777

 <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com

 <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com

Skype: rocky.smolin

 

 

 

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Sep 19 16:08:29 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:08:29 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <1720801223.496081924.1537368248666.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<1720801223.496081924.1537368248666.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5BA2BACD.24096.3BC2CAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

It sounded as thought Arther was not *installng* Wordpress. He apparently has created a 
number of Wordpress.com hosted sites.

On 19 Sep 2018 at 8:44, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
> 
> The questions you are asking could fill a book but...
> 
> If you want to have a operational Word Press and you haven't installed
> it before or not for a long time, I would search out a step by step
> installation guide, follow it and get a basic instance running before
> getting fancy. 
> 
> Every new install should over-right previously failed installs so that
> shouldn't be a problem. If your WP, is going to be a forward facing
> application, with input fields, check out a security guide as there
> are so many "holes" a scrip kiddie can hack or more accurately walk
> through.  
> 
> After, everything has been tested then you can start coding in or
> downloading various GUI layouts along their associated features.
> 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Sep 19 16:10:28 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:10:28 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <002601d45027$0af51ed0$20df5c70$@bchacc.com>
References: <002601d45027$0af51ed0$20df5c70$@bchacc.com>
Message-ID: <5BA2BB44.27016.3BDFDD1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

The "To: " address can contain anything the orignator wants to put there. It is not used for 
email routing.  Spammers do use it for tracking, especially when people paste it into 
unsubscribe links.

Unsubscribing from spam emails is a big mistake.  In the majority of cases it just confirms 
that you are reading their spam and gets you on more spammers lists!  Never unsubscribe 
unless it is something you have actually subscribed to.



On 19 Sep 2018 at 7:42, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> I keep the amount of spam coming to my mailbox by unsubscribing pretty
> diligently.  Lately though I've been getting spammed where the To
> address is odd looking - not my address - yet it's still getting to
> me.  Got one today from a company touting me on gold for my IRA.  The
> to address is
> 
> 
> 
> 44780wfs41523b8v2m7 at j328ptp.submu.win
> <https://email25.godaddy.com/webmail.php> 
> 
> 
> 
> Somehow I think pasting that in the unsubscribe box is not going to do
> the trick.  But what up with that?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> 
> Beach Access Software
> 
> 760-683-5777
> 
>  <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
> 
>  <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
> Skype: rocky.smolin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 06:46:52 2018
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:46:52 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <5BA2BACD.24096.3BC2CAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1720801223.496081924.1537368248666.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5BA2BACD.24096.3BC2CAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jBWVs0ZJMueqcT21hgTp2MyxwU03iXvaWvUsR5EGbLEw@mail.gmail.com>

Stuart,

You are quire right. I used the WordPress "Start a blog" button. Perhaps I
should forget about that approach and instead do a regular installation?

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:09 PM Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> It sounded as thought Arther was not *installng* Wordpress. He apparently
> has created a
> number of Wordpress.com hosted sites.
>
> On 19 Sep 2018 at 8:44, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
> > Hi Arthur:
> >
> > The questions you are asking could fill a book but...
> >
> > If you want to have a operational Word Press and you haven't installed
> > it before or not for a long time, I would search out a step by step
> > installation guide, follow it and get a basic instance running before
> > getting fancy.
> >
> > Every new install should over-right previously failed installs so that
> > shouldn't be a problem. If your WP, is going to be a forward facing
> > application, with input fields, check out a security guide as there
> > are so many "holes" a scrip kiddie can hack or more accurately walk
> > through.
> >
> > After, everything has been tested then you can start coding in or
> > downloading various GUI layouts along their associated features.
> >

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Sep 20 12:58:29 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:58:29 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jBWVs0ZJMueqcT21hgTp2MyxwU03iXvaWvUsR5EGbLEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1720801223.496081924.1537368248666.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5BA2BACD.24096.3BC2CAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<CAEPJO1jBWVs0ZJMueqcT21hgTp2MyxwU03iXvaWvUsR5EGbLEw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2022756571.503492393.1537466309664.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi Arthur:

A number of years ago, I build an interactive WP site and used it for a number of years: "SeriousArt.com" but it started getting hacked and even though my SiL and I spent weeks trying to find how the hackers were getting in, unless we set the system to read-only there was no way to stop them. 

It was discovered to be a serious zero-day flaw in the PHP code design so unless we wanted to re-write the system we were out-of-luck so until the WP design team resolved the issues there was little we could do. The WP team was restrained from fixing the errors quickly as such a change would disable a major portion of the third-party plugins. Our site was setup so Maria could manage a group of musicians and poets for a book she was creating and as the book was completed, we decided the simplest solution was to delete the site and remove the domain. I understand that the hosting giant GoDaddy now owns the domain.

Supposedly, the core errors have since been resolved but my venture into the world of WP blogs did not end on a high note. It should also be noted that most of the third-party two-factor authentication login scripts are flawed so care should be taken when deciding login solutions or plugin...but I had built our own site and was hosting it.

OTOH, if you are only sponsoring a private blog and you change the default WP address/URL, it would be unlikely that any site scanner would discover your private blog. There are also numerous companies along with hosting WP sites, have a number of great templates that fit ninety percent of the needs of most users and with a little graphic, cosmetic and scripting work, a perfect site can be run up with little effort and little expense. 

Jim    

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:46:52 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)

Stuart,

You are quire right. I used the WordPress "Start a blog" button. Perhaps I
should forget about that approach and instead do a regular installation?

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:09 PM Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> It sounded as thought Arther was not *installng* Wordpress. He apparently
> has created a
> number of Wordpress.com hosted sites.
>
> On 19 Sep 2018 at 8:44, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
> > Hi Arthur:
> >
> > The questions you are asking could fill a book but...
> >
> > If you want to have a operational Word Press and you haven't installed
> > it before or not for a long time, I would search out a step by step
> > installation guide, follow it and get a basic instance running before
> > getting fancy.
> >
> > Every new install should over-right previously failed installs so that
> > shouldn't be a problem. If your WP, is going to be a forward facing
> > application, with input fields, check out a security guide as there
> > are so many "holes" a scrip kiddie can hack or more accurately walk
> > through.
> >
> > After, everything has been tested then you can start coding in or
> > downloading various GUI layouts along their associated features.
> >
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Sep 20 13:02:12 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:02:12 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <5BA2BB44.27016.3BDFDD1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <002601d45027$0af51ed0$20df5c70$@bchacc.com>
	<5BA2BB44.27016.3BDFDD1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <1409965838.503506140.1537466532353.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Stuart:

"Never unsubscribe unless it is something you have actually subscribed to."

Wise words.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Trying to unsubscribe

The "To: " address can contain anything the orignator wants to put there. It is not used for 
email routing.  Spammers do use it for tracking, especially when people paste it into 
unsubscribe links.

Unsubscribing from spam emails is a big mistake.  In the majority of cases it just confirms 
that you are reading their spam and gets you on more spammers lists!  Never unsubscribe 
unless it is something you have actually subscribed to.



On 19 Sep 2018 at 7:42, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> I keep the amount of spam coming to my mailbox by unsubscribing pretty
> diligently.  Lately though I've been getting spammed where the To
> address is odd looking - not my address - yet it's still getting to
> me.  Got one today from a company touting me on gold for my IRA.  The
> to address is
> 
> 
> 
> 44780wfs41523b8v2m7 at j328ptp.submu.win
> <https://email25.godaddy.com/webmail.php> 
> 
> 
> 
> Somehow I think pasting that in the unsubscribe box is not going to do
> the trick.  But what up with that?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> 
> Beach Access Software
> 
> 760-683-5777
> 
>  <http://www.bchacc.com> www.bchacc.com
> 
>  <http://www.e-z-mrp.com> www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
> Skype: rocky.smolin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Sep 20 13:19:57 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:19:57 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Select Star SQL: an interactive book which aims to be
 the best place to learn SQL
In-Reply-To: <1409965838.503506140.1537466532353.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <002601d45027$0af51ed0$20df5c70$@bchacc.com>
	<5BA2BB44.27016.3BDFDD1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<1409965838.503506140.1537466532353.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1969381055.503571009.1537467597409.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

If anyone is interested in using an interactive SQL site to hone their sequel skills, check out the following:

https://selectstarsql.com/

Jim

From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 20 19:43:48 2018
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:43:48 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <2022756571.503492393.1537466309664.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1720801223.496081924.1537368248666.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5BA2BACD.24096.3BC2CAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<CAEPJO1jBWVs0ZJMueqcT21hgTp2MyxwU03iXvaWvUsR5EGbLEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<2022756571.503492393.1537466309664.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <39d1924b-724c-4729-6278-c1bdec143fac@earthlink.net>

On 9/20/2018 12:58, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Arthur:
>
> A number of years ago, I build an interactive WP site and used it for a number of years: "SeriousArt.com" but it started getting hacked and even though my SiL and I spent weeks trying to find how the hackers were getting in, unless we set the system to read-only there was no way to stop them.
>
> It was discovered to be a serious zero-day flaw in the PHP code design

... and some such are still there, 
https://thehackernews.com/2016/12/php-7-update.html.

PB

-----

>   so unless we wanted to re-write the system we were out-of-luck so until the WP design team resolved the issues there was little we could do. The WP team was restrained from fixing the errors quickly as such a change would disable a major portion of the third-party plugins. Our site was setup so Maria could manage a group of musicians and poets for a book she was creating and as the book was completed, we decided the simplest solution was to delete the site and remove the domain. I understand that the hosting giant GoDaddy now owns the domain.
>
> Supposedly, the core errors have since been resolved but my venture into the world of WP blogs did not end on a high note. It should also be noted that most of the third-party two-factor authentication login scripts are flawed so care should be taken when deciding login solutions or plugin...but I had built our own site and was hosting it.
>
> OTOH, if you are only sponsoring a private blog and you change the default WP address/URL, it would be unlikely that any site scanner would discover your private blog. There are also numerous companies along with hosting WP sites, have a number of great templates that fit ninety percent of the needs of most users and with a little graphic, cosmetic and scripting work, a perfect site can be run up with little effort and little expense.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:46:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
>
> Stuart,
>
> You are quire right. I used the WordPress "Start a blog" button. Perhaps I
> should forget about that approach and instead do a regular installation?
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:09 PM Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> wrote:
>
>> It sounded as thought Arther was not *installng* Wordpress. He apparently
>> has created a
>> number of Wordpress.com hosted sites.
>>
>> On 19 Sep 2018 at 8:44, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Arthur:
>>>
>>> The questions you are asking could fill a book but...
>>>
>>> If you want to have a operational Word Press and you haven't installed
>>> it before or not for a long time, I would search out a step by step
>>> installation guide, follow it and get a basic instance running before
>>> getting fancy.
>>>
>>> Every new install should over-right previously failed installs so that
>>> shouldn't be a problem. If your WP, is going to be a forward facing
>>> application, with input fields, check out a security guide as there
>>> are so many "holes" a scrip kiddie can hack or more accurately walk
>>> through.
>>>
>>> After, everything has been tested then you can start coding in or
>>> downloading various GUI layouts along their associated features.
>>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Sep 21 01:52:41 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 00:52:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <39d1924b-724c-4729-6278-c1bdec143fac@earthlink.net>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1720801223.496081924.1537368248666.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5BA2BACD.24096.3BC2CAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<CAEPJO1jBWVs0ZJMueqcT21hgTp2MyxwU03iXvaWvUsR5EGbLEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<2022756571.503492393.1537466309664.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<39d1924b-724c-4729-6278-c1bdec143fac@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

There may still be some active zero day bugs in the WP system but the article you presented was from 2016, so hopefully things have improved in two years.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:43:48 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)

On 9/20/2018 12:58, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Arthur:
>
> A number of years ago, I build an interactive WP site and used it for a number of years: "SeriousArt.com" but it started getting hacked and even though my SiL and I spent weeks trying to find how the hackers were getting in, unless we set the system to read-only there was no way to stop them.
>
> It was discovered to be a serious zero-day flaw in the PHP code design

... and some such are still there, 
https://thehackernews.com/2016/12/php-7-update.html.

PB

-----

>   so unless we wanted to re-write the system we were out-of-luck so until the WP design team resolved the issues there was little we could do. The WP team was restrained from fixing the errors quickly as such a change would disable a major portion of the third-party plugins. Our site was setup so Maria could manage a group of musicians and poets for a book she was creating and as the book was completed, we decided the simplest solution was to delete the site and remove the domain. I understand that the hosting giant GoDaddy now owns the domain.
>
> Supposedly, the core errors have since been resolved but my venture into the world of WP blogs did not end on a high note. It should also be noted that most of the third-party two-factor authentication login scripts are flawed so care should be taken when deciding login solutions or plugin...but I had built our own site and was hosting it.
>
> OTOH, if you are only sponsoring a private blog and you change the default WP address/URL, it would be unlikely that any site scanner would discover your private blog. There are also numerous companies along with hosting WP sites, have a number of great templates that fit ninety percent of the needs of most users and with a little graphic, cosmetic and scripting work, a perfect site can be run up with little effort and little expense.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:46:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
>
> Stuart,
>
> You are quire right. I used the WordPress "Start a blog" button. Perhaps I
> should forget about that approach and instead do a regular installation?
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:09 PM Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> wrote:
>
>> It sounded as thought Arther was not *installng* Wordpress. He apparently
>> has created a
>> number of Wordpress.com hosted sites.
>>
>> On 19 Sep 2018 at 8:44, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Arthur:
>>>
>>> The questions you are asking could fill a book but...
>>>
>>> If you want to have a operational Word Press and you haven't installed
>>> it before or not for a long time, I would search out a step by step
>>> installation guide, follow it and get a basic instance running before
>>> getting fancy.
>>>
>>> Every new install should over-right previously failed installs so that
>>> shouldn't be a problem. If your WP, is going to be a forward facing
>>> application, with input fields, check out a security guide as there
>>> are so many "holes" a scrip kiddie can hack or more accurately walk
>>> through.
>>>
>>> After, everything has been tested then you can start coding in or
>>> downloading various GUI layouts along their associated features.
>>>
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> _______________________________________________
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Sep 21 18:13:42 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:13:42 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<39d1924b-724c-4729-6278-c1bdec143fac@earthlink.net>,
	<1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5BA57B26.10480.E7B86B8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Yeah, right!   :)

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/21/wordpress_flaws_attacked/

On 21 Sep 2018 at 0:52, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> There may still be some active zero day bugs in the WP system but the
> article you presented was from 2016, so hopefully things have improved
> in two years.
> 
> Jim 
> 
>

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Sep 21 18:15:13 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:15:13 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<39d1924b-724c-4729-6278-c1bdec143fac@earthlink.net>,
	<1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <5BA57B81.12488.E7CEB63@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

>From the comemts section of the Reg article I just linked:

Wordpress........ the New Adobe flash.

:-)

On 21 Sep 2018 at 0:52, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> There may still be some active zero day bugs in the WP system but the
> article you presented was from 2016, so hopefully things have improved
> in two years.
> 
> Jim 
> 


From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 22 11:28:19 2018
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:28:19 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1720801223.496081924.1537368248666.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5BA2BACD.24096.3BC2CAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<CAEPJO1jBWVs0ZJMueqcT21hgTp2MyxwU03iXvaWvUsR5EGbLEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<2022756571.503492393.1537466309664.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<39d1924b-724c-4729-6278-c1bdec143fac@earthlink.net>
	<1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1a5c6894-bb86-8743-4d4a-992da6bc871e@earthlink.net>

Jim,

On 9/21/2018 1:52, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> There may still be some active zero day bugs in the WP system but the article you presented was from 2016, so hopefully things have improved in two years.

As Stuart's link 
(https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/21/wordpress_flaws_attacked/) 
illustrates, scammers & hackers rely on such hopefulness, with much 
success.

PHP release x.y+1 may plug vulnerabilities in PHP x.y, but PHP x.y wo't 
disappear. Many hosting providers offer PHP version choice, sometimes 
back to 4.x. WP is often used mainly because the user thinks she has 
better things to do than attend to low-level details like PHP version 
upgrades. Indeed that fact contributes to WP being an attractive target 
for hackers.

PB



>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:43:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
>
> On 9/20/2018 12:58, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi Arthur:
>>
>> A number of years ago, I build an interactive WP site and used it for a number of years: "SeriousArt.com" but it started getting hacked and even though my SiL and I spent weeks trying to find how the hackers were getting in, unless we set the system to read-only there was no way to stop them.
>>
>> It was discovered to be a serious zero-day flaw in the PHP code design
> ... and some such are still there,
> https://thehackernews.com/2016/12/php-7-update.html.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>>    so unless we wanted to re-write the system we were out-of-luck so until the WP design team resolved the issues there was little we could do. The WP team was restrained from fixing the errors quickly as such a change would disable a major portion of the third-party plugins. Our site was setup so Maria could manage a group of musicians and poets for a book she was creating and as the book was completed, we decided the simplest solution was to delete the site and remove the domain. I understand that the hosting giant GoDaddy now owns the domain.
>>
>> Supposedly, the core errors have since been resolved but my venture into the world of WP blogs did not end on a high note. It should also be noted that most of the third-party two-factor authentication login scripts are flawed so care should be taken when deciding login solutions or plugin...but I had built our own site and was hosting it.
>>
>> OTOH, if you are only sponsoring a private blog and you change the default WP address/URL, it would be unlikely that any site scanner would discover your private blog. There are also numerous companies along with hosting WP sites, have a number of great templates that fit ninety percent of the needs of most users and with a little graphic, cosmetic and scripting work, a perfect site can be run up with little effort and little expense.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:46:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
>>
>> Stuart,
>>
>> You are quire right. I used the WordPress "Start a blog" button. Perhaps I
>> should forget about that approach and instead do a regular installation?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:09 PM Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It sounded as thought Arther was not *installng* Wordpress. He apparently
>>> has created a
>>> number of Wordpress.com hosted sites.
>>>
>>> On 19 Sep 2018 at 8:44, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Arthur:
>>>>
>>>> The questions you are asking could fill a book but...
>>>>
>>>> If you want to have a operational Word Press and you haven't installed
>>>> it before or not for a long time, I would search out a step by step
>>>> installation guide, follow it and get a basic instance running before
>>>> getting fancy.
>>>>
>>>> Every new install should over-right previously failed installs so that
>>>> shouldn't be a problem. If your WP, is going to be a forward facing
>>>> application, with input fields, check out a security guide as there
>>>> are so many "holes" a scrip kiddie can hack or more accurately walk
>>>> through.
>>>>
>>>> After, everything has been tested then you can start coding in or
>>>> downloading various GUI layouts along their associated features.
>>>>
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From peter.brawley at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 22 11:34:57 2018
From: peter.brawley at earthlink.net (Peter Brawley)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:34:57 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] backup, backup, backup
Message-ID: <85a7c23c-48ac-51c0-b896-e80c7ddd87b6@earthlink.net>

If you rely on hosting provider backups, think again. I got the email 
quoted below from a hosting provider with a good reputation that I use 
as a backup provider ...

PB

/While I was hoping to save some of this for the official RFO [Reason 
For Outage] - enough people are getting tremendously upset over this 
that I'm going to spell out what I can now - keeping in mind that I will 
provide more details when I can.//
//
//**What happened?**//
//
//First and foremost - this failure is not something that we planned on 
or expected.? A server administrator, the most experienced administrator 
we have, made a big mistake.? During some routine maintenance where they 
were supposed to perform a _file system trim_ they mistakenly performed 
a _block discard_.//
//
//**What does this mean?**//
//
//The server administrator essentially told our storage platform to drop 
all data rather than simply dropping data that had been marked as 
_deleted_ by our servers.//
//
//**Why is restoration taking so long?**//
//
//Initially we believed that only the primary operating system partition 
of the servers was damaged - so we worked to bring new machines online 
to connect to our storage to bring accounts back online.? Had our 
initial belief been correct - we'd have been back online in a few hours 
at most.//
//
//As it turns out our local data was corrupted beyond repair - to the 
point that we could not even mount the file systems to attempt data 
recovery.//
//
//Normally we would rely on snapshots in our storage platform - simply 
mounting a snapshot from prior to the incident and booting servers back 
up.? It would have taken minutes - if maybe an hour. We are not sure as 
of yet, and will need to investigate, but snapshots were disabled.? I 
wish I could tell you why - and I wish I knew why - but we don't know 
yet and will have to look into it.//
//
//We are working to restore cPanel backups from our off-site backup 
server in Phoenix Arizona.? While you would think the distance and 
connectivity was the issue - the real issue is the amount of I/O that 
backup server has available to it.? While it is a robust server with 24 
drives - it can only read so much data so fast.? As these are high 
capacity spinning drives - they have limits on speed.//
//
//Our disaster recovery server is our **last resort** to restore client 
data and, as it stands, is the _only_ copy we have remaining of all 
client data - except that which has already been restored which is back 
to being stored in triplicate.//
//
//**What will you do to prevent this in the future?**//
//
//We have, as we've been working on this and running into issues getting 
things back online quickly, discussing what changes we need to make to 
ensure that this both doesn't happen again as well as that we can 
restore quicker in the future should the need arise.? I will go into 
more detail about this once we are back online.//
//
//**We are sorry - we don't want you to be offline any more than you do.**//
//
//Personally I'm not going to be getting any sleep until every customer 
affected by this is back online.? I wish I could snap my fingers and 
have everybody back online or that I could go into the past and make a 
couple of _minor_ changes that would have prevented this.? I do wish, 
now that this has happened, that there was a quick and easy solution.//
//
//I understand you're upset / mad / angry / frustrated. Believe me - I 
am sitting here listening to each and every one of you about how upset 
you are - I know you're upset and I am sorry. We're human - and we make 
mistakes.? In this case **thankfully** we do have a last resort disaster 
recovery that we can pull data from.? There are _many_ providers that, 
having faced this many failures - a perfect storm so to speak - would 
have simply lost your data entirely.//
//
//This is the **first** major outage we've had in over a decade and 
while this is definitely major - our servers are online and we are 
actively working as quickly as possible to get all accounts restored and 
back online.? For clarity - the bottleneck here is not a staffing 
issue.? We evaluated numerous options to speed up the process and 
unfortunately short of copying the data off to faster disks - which we 
did try - there's nothing we can do to speed this up.? The process of 
copying the data off to faster disks was going to take just as long, if 
not longer, than the restoration process is taking on it's own.//
//
//Once everybody is back online - and there are accounts coming online 
every minute - we will be performing a complete post-mortem on this and 
will be writing a clear and transparent Reason For Outage [RFO] which we 
will be making available to all clients.//
//
//I hope that you understand that while this restoration process is 
ongoing there really isn't much to report beyond, "Accounts are still 
being restored as quickly as possible."? I wish there was some 
interesting update I could provide you like, "Suddenly things have sped 
up 100x!" but that's not the case.//
//
//I am personally doing my best to reach out to clients that have opened 
tickets are updated as to when their accounts are in the active 
restoration queue.? While we do have thousands of accounts to restore - 
our disaster recovery system actually transfers data substantially 
faster with fewer simultaneous transfers.? While it sounds 
counter-intuitive - we're actively watching the restoration processes 
and balancing the number of accounts being restored at once against the 
performance of the disaster recovery system to get as many people back 
online as quickly as possible.//
//
//Most sites are coming back online after restoration without issues, 
however, if once your account is restored you are still having issues - 
we are here to help.? While we are quite overwhelmed by tickets like, 
"WHY IS THIS NOT UP YET!?!?!"? "WHY ARE YOU DOWN SO LONG!?!??!!"? "FIX 
THIS NOWWWW!" - we are still trying to wade through all of that to help 
those that have come back online and are having issues - as few and far 
between as it has been.//
//
//If you have any questions - we will definitely answer them - but 
please understand that while we're restoring accounts we're really 
trying to focus on the restoration of services as well as resolving 
issues for those that are already resolved.//
//
//Again - I am sorry for the trouble this is causing you - we definitely 
don't want you offline any more than you do and will have all services 
restored as quickly as we can.//
//
//Sincerely,//
/


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Sep 22 15:44:13 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 06:44:13 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <1a5c6894-bb86-8743-4d4a-992da6bc871e@earthlink.net>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>,
	<1a5c6894-bb86-8743-4d4a-992da6bc871e@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5BA6A99D.32153.131906A8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

In my case, PHP 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5, 5.6, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2 are all options on the web server.
(I generally use 5.6)


On 22 Sep 2018 at 11:28, Peter Brawley wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> On 9/21/2018 1:52, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> > There may still be some active zero day bugs in the WP system but
> > the article you presented was from 2016, so hopefully things have
> > improved in two years.
> 
> As Stuart's link 
> (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/21/wordpress_flaws_attacked/)
> illustrates, scammers & hackers rely on such hopefulness, with much
> success.
> 
> PHP release x.y+1 may plug vulnerabilities in PHP x.y, but PHP x.y
> wo't disappear. Many hosting providers offer PHP version choice,
> sometimes back to 4.x. WP is often used mainly because the user thinks
> she has better things to do than attend to low-level details like PHP
> version upgrades. Indeed that fact contributes to WP being an
> attractive target for hackers.
> 
> PB
> 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Sep 22 15:45:17 2018
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 06:45:17 +1000
Subject: [dba-Tech] backup, backup, backup
In-Reply-To: <85a7c23c-48ac-51c0-b896-e80c7ddd87b6@earthlink.net>
References: <85a7c23c-48ac-51c0-b896-e80c7ddd87b6@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5BA6A9DD.18551.131A01B9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Ouch!   
On 22 Sep 2018 at 11:34, Peter Brawley wrote:

> If you rely on hosting provider backups, think again. I got the email
> quoted below from a hosting provider with a good reputation that I use
> as a backup provider ...
> 
...



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Sep 23 23:34:49 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:34:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <5BA57B26.10480.E7B86B8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<39d1924b-724c-4729-6278-c1bdec143fac@earthlink.net>
	<1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5BA57B26.10480.E7B86B8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <903669302.523548290.1537763689180.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

As long a potential hacks can be configured out or coded around...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 4:13:42 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)

Yeah, right!   :)

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/21/wordpress_flaws_attacked/

On 21 Sep 2018 at 0:52, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> There may still be some active zero day bugs in the WP system but the
> article you presented was from 2016, so hopefully things have improved
> in two years.
> 
> Jim 
> 
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Sep 23 23:42:39 2018
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:42:39 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)
In-Reply-To: <5BA57B81.12488.E7CEB63@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <CAEPJO1j2GGygXhhvL4O-y1v-qwh1WAFVf1upWgia=_4G81y5=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<39d1924b-724c-4729-6278-c1bdec143fac@earthlink.net>
	<1970598156.506931058.1537512761935.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>
	<5BA57B81.12488.E7CEB63@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <531110748.523569098.1537764159751.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

Send me a link if you get a chance...I would like to read through it. Bryan has new business site written on WP. We could use https://sites.google.com from which to write our websites...though I hate the thought of it. The google sites use their Google spreadsheet app to hold the BE data so complexity and data volume is limited.,,something like a MS Access Database. ;-) 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 4:15:13 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] WordPress Question(s)

>From the comemts section of the Reg article I just linked:

Wordpress........ the New Adobe flash.

:-)

On 21 Sep 2018 at 0:52, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> There may still be some active zero day bugs in the WP system but the
> article you presented was from 2016, so hopefully things have improved
> in two years.
> 
> Jim 
> 

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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Thu Sep 27 16:12:47 2018
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 21:12:47 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] backup, backup, backup
In-Reply-To: <85a7c23c-48ac-51c0-b896-e80c7ddd87b6@earthlink.net>
References: <85a7c23c-48ac-51c0-b896-e80c7ddd87b6@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <DM5PR1101MB22015B9DC0C1E2BFAA05722BD8140@DM5PR1101MB2201.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

wow

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:35 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] backup, backup, backup

If you rely on hosting provider backups, think again. I got the email quoted below from a hosting provider with a good reputation that I use as a backup provider ...

PB

/While I was hoping to save some of this for the official RFO [Reason For Outage] - enough people are getting tremendously upset over this that I'm going to spell out what I can now - keeping in mind that I will provide more details when I can.// // //**What happened?**// // //First and foremost - this failure is not something that we planned on or expected.? A server administrator, the most experienced administrator we have, made a big mistake.? During some routine maintenance where they were supposed to perform a _file system trim_ they mistakenly performed a _block discard_.// // //**What does this mean?**// // //The server administrator essentially told our storage platform to drop all data rather than simply dropping data that had been marked as _deleted_ by our servers.// // //**Why is restoration taking so long?**// // //Initially we believed that only the primary operating system partition of the servers was damaged - so we worked to bring new machines online to connect to our storage to bring accounts back online.? Had our initial belief been correct - we'd have been back online in a few hours at most.// // //As it turns out our local data was corrupted beyond repair - to the point that we could not even mount the file systems to attempt data recovery.// // //Normally we would rely on snapshots in our storage platform - simply mounting a snapshot from prior to the incident and booting servers back up.? It would have taken minutes - if maybe an hour. We are not sure as of yet, and will need to investigate, but snapshots were disabled.? I wish I could tell you why - and I wish I knew why - but we don't know yet and will have to look into it.// // //We are working to restore cPanel backups from our off-site backup server in Phoenix Arizona.? While you would think the distance and connectivity was the issue - the real issue is the amount of I/O that backup server has available to it.? While it is a robust server with 24 drives - it can only read so much data so fast.? As these are high capacity spinn
ing drives - they have limits on speed.// // //Our disaster recovery server is our **last resort** to restore client data and, as it stands, is the _only_ copy we have remaining of all client data - except that which has already been restored which is back to being stored in triplicate.// // //**What will you do to prevent this in the future?**// // //We have, as we've been working on this and running into issues getting things back online quickly, discussing what changes we need to make to ensure that this both doesn't happen again as well as that we can restore quicker in the future should the need arise.? I will go into more detail about this once we are back online.// // //**We are sorry - we don't want you to be offline any more than you do.**// // //Personally I'm not going to be getting any sleep until every customer affected by this is back online.? I wish I could snap my fingers and have everybody back online or that I could go into the past and make a couple of _minor_ changes that would have prevented this.? I do wish, now that this has happened, that there was a quick and easy solution.// // //I understand you're upset / mad / angry / frustrated. Believe me - I am sitting here listening to each and every one of you about how upset you are - I know you're upset and I am sorry. We're human - and we make mistakes.? In this case **thankfully** we do have a last resort disaster recovery that we can pull data from.? There are _many_ providers that, having faced this many failures - a perfect storm so to speak - would have simply lost your data entirely.// // //This is the **first** major outage we've had in over a decade and while this is definitely major - our servers are online and we are actively working as quickly as possible to get all accounts restored and back online.? For clarity - the bottleneck here is not a staffing issue.? We evaluated numerous options to speed up the process and unfortunately short of copying the data off to faster disks - which we did try - there's nothing we can do to 
speed this up.? The process of copying the data off to faster disks was going to take just as long, if not longer, than the restoration process is taking on it's own.// // //Once everybody is back online - and there are accounts coming online every minute - we will be performing a complete post-mortem on this and will be writing a clear and transparent Reason For Outage [RFO] which we will be making available to all clients.// // //I hope that you understand that while this restoration process is ongoing there really isn't much to report beyond, "Accounts are still being restored as quickly as possible."? I wish there was some interesting update I could provide you like, "Suddenly things have sped up 100x!" but that's not the case.// // //I am personally doing my best to reach out to clients that have opened tickets are updated as to when their accounts are in the active restoration queue.? While we do have thousands of accounts to restore - our disaster recovery system actually transfers data substantially faster with fewer simultaneous transfers.? While it sounds counter-intuitive - we're actively watching the restoration processes and balancing the number of accounts being restored at once against the performance of the disaster recovery system to get as many people back online as quickly as possible.// // //Most sites are coming back online after restoration without issues, however, if once your account is restored you are still having issues - we are here to help.? While we are quite overwhelmed by tickets like, "WHY IS THIS NOT UP YET!?!?!"? "WHY ARE YOU DOWN SO LONG!?!??!!"? "FIX THIS NOWWWW!" - we are still trying to wade through all of that to help those that have come back online and are having issues - as few and far between as it has been.// // //If you have any questions - we will definitely answer them - but please understand that while we're restoring accounts we're really trying to focus on the restoration of services as well as resolving issues for those that are already resolved.// // //A
gain - I am sorry for the trouble this is causing you - we definitely don't want you offline any more than you do and will have all services restored as quickly as we can.// // //Sincerely,// /

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Sep 27 17:03:39 2018
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:03:39 -0700
Subject: [dba-Tech] backup, backup, backup
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR1101MB22015B9DC0C1E2BFAA05722BD8140@DM5PR1101MB2201.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <85a7c23c-48ac-51c0-b896-e80c7ddd87b6@earthlink.net>
	<DM5PR1101MB22015B9DC0C1E2BFAA05722BD8140@DM5PR1101MB2201.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <025101d456ad$f2639350$d72ab9f0$@bchacc.com>

Is this company just providing off site backup or are clients using them as a cloud provider doing transactions on live data?

r

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:13 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] backup, backup, backup

wow

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:35 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [dba-Tech] backup, backup, backup

If you rely on hosting provider backups, think again. I got the email quoted below from a hosting provider with a good reputation that I use as a backup provider ...

PB

/While I was hoping to save some of this for the official RFO [Reason For Outage] - enough people are getting tremendously upset over this that I'm going to spell out what I can now - keeping in mind that I will provide more details when I can.// // //**What happened?**// // //First and foremost - this failure is not something that we planned on or expected.  A server administrator, the most experienced administrator we have, made a big mistake.  During some routine maintenance where they were supposed to perform a _file system trim_ they mistakenly performed a _block discard_.// // //**What does this mean?**// // //The server administrator essentially told our storage platform to drop all data rather than simply dropping data that had been marked as _deleted_ by our servers.// // //**Why is restoration taking so long?**// // //Initially we believed that only the primary operating system partition of the servers was damaged - so we worked to bring new machines online to connect to our storage to bring accounts back online.  Had our initial belief been correct - we'd have been back online in a few hours at most.// // //As it turns out our local data was corrupted beyond repair - to the point that we could not even mount the file systems to attempt data recovery.// // //Normally we would rely on snapshots in our storage platform - simply mounting a snapshot from prior to the incident and booting servers back up.  It would have taken minutes - if maybe an hour. We are not sure as of yet, and will need to investigate, but snapshots were disabled.  I wish I could tell you why - and I wish I knew why - but we don't know yet and will have to look into it.// // //We are working to restore cPanel backups from our off-site backup server in Phoenix Arizona.  While you would think the distance and connectivity was the issue - the real issue is the amount of I/O that backup server has available to it.  While it is a robust server with 24 drives - it can only read so much data so fast.  As these are high capacity spinn
ing drives - they have limits on speed.// // //Our disaster recovery server is our **last resort** to restore client data and, as it stands, is the _only_ copy we have remaining of all client data - except that which has already been restored which is back to being stored in triplicate.// // //**What will you do to prevent this in the future?**// // //We have, as we've been working on this and running into issues getting things back online quickly, discussing what changes we need to make to ensure that this both doesn't happen again as well as that we can restore quicker in the future should the need arise.  I will go into more detail about this once we are back online.// // //**We are sorry - we don't want you to be offline any more than you do.**// // //Personally I'm not going to be getting any sleep until every customer affected by this is back online.  I wish I could snap my fingers and have everybody back online or that I could go into the past and make a couple of _minor_ changes that would have prevented this.  I do wish, now that this has happened, that there was a quick and easy solution.// // //I understand you're upset / mad / angry / frustrated. Believe me - I am sitting here listening to each and every one of you about how upset you are - I know you're upset and I am sorry. We're human - and we make mistakes.  In this case **thankfully** we do have a last resort disaster recovery that we can pull data from.  There are _many_ providers that, having faced this many failures - a perfect storm so to speak - would have simply lost your data entirely.// // //This is the **first** major outage we've had in over a decade and while this is definitely major - our servers are online and we are actively working as quickly as possible to get all accounts restored and back online.  For clarity - the bottleneck here is not a staffing issue.  We evaluated numerous options to speed up the process and unfortunately short of copying the data off to faster disks - which we did try - there's nothing we can do to 
speed this up.  The process of copying the data off to faster disks was going to take just as long, if not longer, than the restoration process is taking on it's own.// // //Once everybody is back online - and there are accounts coming online every minute - we will be performing a complete post-mortem on this and will be writing a clear and transparent Reason For Outage [RFO] which we will be making available to all clients.// // //I hope that you understand that while this restoration process is ongoing there really isn't much to report beyond, "Accounts are still being restored as quickly as possible."  I wish there was some interesting update I could provide you like, "Suddenly things have sped up 100x!" but that's not the case.// // //I am personally doing my best to reach out to clients that have opened tickets are updated as to when their accounts are in the active restoration queue.  While we do have thousands of accounts to restore - our disaster recovery system actually transfers data substantially faster with fewer simultaneous transfers.  While it sounds counter-intuitive - we're actively watching the restoration processes and balancing the number of accounts being restored at once against the performance of the disaster recovery system to get as many people back online as quickly as possible.// // //Most sites are coming back online after restoration without issues, however, if once your account is restored you are still having issues - we are here to help.  While we are quite overwhelmed by tickets like, "WHY IS THIS NOT UP YET!?!?!"  "WHY ARE YOU DOWN SO LONG!?!??!!"  "FIX THIS NOWWWW!" - we are still trying to wade through all of that to help those that have come back online and are having issues - as few and far between as it has been.// // //If you have any questions - we will definitely answer them - but please understand that while we're restoring accounts we're really trying to focus on the restoration of services as well as resolving issues for those that are already resolved.// // //A
gain - I am sorry for the trouble this is causing you - we definitely don't want you offline any more than you do and will have all services restored as quickly as we can.// // //Sincerely,// /

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