From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 20 07:07:45 2019
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:07:45 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hbinPT5DmaXhfL_G5H0i2wd-WOVbOhSgwFLT_C0O0Yjg@mail.gmail.com>

How the hell to permanently un-install this evil software? It is downright
evil and I can't seem to get rid of it, short of restoring Windows to its
original state.

-- 
Arthur

From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Sep 20 08:30:14 2019
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:30:14 -0500
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate
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Avast has a removal tool

https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:08 AM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How the hell to permanently un-install this evil software? It is downright
> evil and I can't seem to get rid of it, short of restoring Windows to its
> original state.
>
> --
> Arthur
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Sep 20 09:05:44 2019
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 10:05:44 -0400
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate
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	<CAJ2R_pLdPOsCdMo7ShssFxPr-T3CXSOi223MDy+YMfUwKmFBaw@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for the link. I think it will not solve my problem, however. Several
months ago I converted my main machine from Windows 10 to Linux Mint,
including reformatting the drive, and somehow Avast survived that. I don't
even know how that is possible, but Avast apparently does know. I suppose I
could run Windows in a VirtualBox, but I suspect that won't let me get to
the bottom layer.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:30 AM Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> Avast has a removal tool
>
> https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:08 AM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > How the hell to permanently un-install this evil software? It is
> downright
> > evil and I can't seem to get rid of it, short of restoring Windows to its
> > original state.
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


-- 
Arthur

From jbartow at winhaven.net  Fri Sep 20 09:58:47 2019
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:58:47 +0000
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gJ1PAKwOLNnMy6ZhhBD-LTdM4KxHqq87__hb-n6Fv0tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hbinPT5DmaXhfL_G5H0i2wd-WOVbOhSgwFLT_C0O0Yjg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pLdPOsCdMo7ShssFxPr-T3CXSOi223MDy+YMfUwKmFBaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1gJ1PAKwOLNnMy6ZhhBD-LTdM4KxHqq87__hb-n6Fv0tw@mail.gmail.com>
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That's not possible. I think you most likely inadvertently installed it after the fact. Avast is very good at sneaking itself into your life. Install Ccleaner and don't pay attention - you get Avast, etc.

I suggest you follow Gary's advice.

John Bartow
WinHaven Consulting

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:06 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate

Thanks for the link. I think it will not solve my problem, however. Several months ago I converted my main machine from Windows 10 to Linux Mint, including reformatting the drive, and somehow Avast survived that. I don't even know how that is possible, but Avast apparently does know. I suppose I could run Windows in a VirtualBox, but I suspect that won't let me get to the bottom layer.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:30 AM Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> Avast has a removal tool
>
> https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:08 AM Arthur Fuller 
> <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > How the hell to permanently un-install this evil software? It is
> downright
> > evil and I can't seem to get rid of it, short of restoring Windows 
> > to its original state.
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Sep 20 21:10:26 2019
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 20:10:26 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hbinPT5DmaXhfL_G5H0i2wd-WOVbOhSgwFLT_C0O0Yjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hbinPT5DmaXhfL_G5H0i2wd-WOVbOhSgwFLT_C0O0Yjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <102054781.344240488.1569031826962.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

I agree, it is truly evil. 

Cut and pasted from Mr and Mrs Google:

To disable the self-defense mechanism, do the following:

1. Open the Avast software interface on your system.
2. Click on the Settings link in the left sidebar.
3. Click on Troubleshooting after the avast! Settings open up.
4. Remove the check mark from "Enable avast! self-defense module".
5. You will receive a warning message, continue here.
6. Avast displays an on-screen prompt afterwards where it wants you to verify that this is intended.

The self-defense module is disabled then, and you can remove one or all of the extension folders under the WebRep structure afterwards.

When you have deleted the FF folder, or moved it to another location for safekeeping, you need to restart Firefox to complete the removal.

When you restart Firefox afterwards, the avast! Online Security entry is gone from the browser.

Jim


----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:07:45 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate

How the hell to permanently un-install this evil software? It is downright
evil and I can't seem to get rid of it, short of restoring Windows to its
original state.

-- 
Arthur
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Sep 20 22:45:53 2019
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 21:45:53 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate
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References: <CAEPJO1hbinPT5DmaXhfL_G5H0i2wd-WOVbOhSgwFLT_C0O0Yjg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2R_pLdPOsCdMo7ShssFxPr-T3CXSOi223MDy+YMfUwKmFBaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1gJ1PAKwOLNnMy6ZhhBD-LTdM4KxHqq87__hb-n6Fv0tw@mail.gmail.com>
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Looking into your FF. Avast on FF is just an extension or plug-in and these can be removed.

Just go to the far right FF menu, select the "add-ons" manager or <ctrl-shift-A> On this page it will give you complete access to all extensions, add-ons and plug-ins. Remove and install as you like. I am sure "Avast" and a few of its associates will be there. Kill them all. ;-)

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 7:05:44 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate

Thanks for the link. I think it will not solve my problem, however. Several
months ago I converted my main machine from Windows 10 to Linux Mint,
including reformatting the drive, and somehow Avast survived that. I don't
even know how that is possible, but Avast apparently does know. I suppose I
could run Windows in a VirtualBox, but I suspect that won't let me get to
the bottom layer.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:30 AM Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> Avast has a removal tool
>
> https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:08 AM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > How the hell to permanently un-install this evil software? It is
> downright
> > evil and I can't seem to get rid of it, short of restoring Windows to its
> > original state.
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


-- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Sep 20 22:57:41 2019
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 21:57:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate
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	<CAJ2R_pLdPOsCdMo7ShssFxPr-T3CXSOi223MDy+YMfUwKmFBaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1gJ1PAKwOLNnMy6ZhhBD-LTdM4KxHqq87__hb-n6Fv0tw@mail.gmail.com>
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Good to have you back...are things improving.

I noted that Avast is most likely in the browser. Assuming that the browser is FF, select the add-on manager from the menu and remove to your heart's content...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: "John R Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 7:58:47 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate

That's not possible. I think you most likely inadvertently installed it after the fact. Avast is very good at sneaking itself into your life. Install Ccleaner and don't pay attention - you get Avast, etc.

I suggest you follow Gary's advice.

John Bartow
WinHaven Consulting

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:06 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Avast -- Evil Empire Incarnate

Thanks for the link. I think it will not solve my problem, however. Several months ago I converted my main machine from Windows 10 to Linux Mint, including reformatting the drive, and somehow Avast survived that. I don't even know how that is possible, but Avast apparently does know. I suppose I could run Windows in a VirtualBox, but I suspect that won't let me get to the bottom layer.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:30 AM Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:

> Avast has a removal tool
>
> https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:08 AM Arthur Fuller 
> <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > How the hell to permanently un-install this evil software? It is
> downright
> > evil and I can't seem to get rid of it, short of restoring Windows 
> > to its original state.
> >
> > --
> > Arthur
> > _______________________________________________
> > dba-Tech mailing list
> > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> dba-Tech mailing list
> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


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