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<DIV><SPAN class=786291013-08082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Not
off the top of my head, sorry John. It's not a great deal of stuff that it
finds, more like a couple of little things.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=786291013-08082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sounds
like you've got pretty much everything else covered too. I'm no security admin,
but I've got a vague (and I'm talking REALLY vague) idea what's going on on my
pc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=786291013-08082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> John Bartow
[mailto:john@winhaven.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 07 August 2003 14:09<BR><B>To:</B>
Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [dba-Tech]
Pop-ups<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078325312-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jon,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078325312-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Can
you be more specific in regards to what Ad-Aware finds that Spybot doesn't? I
dropped using Ad-Aware when I started using Spybot because it seemed more
thorough. I also use Pest Patrol because it has a memory resident scanner that
stops stuff from getting installed in the first place.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078325312-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078325312-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have
my network setup using windows ICS as my dhcp server - along
with NIS(Norton firewall plus NAV, add-blocking, personal info protection,
intrusion detection, spam filtering and parentol controls. I also have user
level security in place. Do you see any problems with that (other
than the cost)?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078325312-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>John</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
dba-tech-bounces@databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces@databaseadvisors.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jon
Tydda<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 08, 2003 3:45 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [dba-Tech]
Pop-ups<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Ad-aware finds stuff that spybot doesn't and vice versa...
after I've run a spybot scan (typically once a week) I run ad-aware and it
always finds more things. Sygate, huh? I'll check that out when my licence for
Zonealarm runs out :-)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Oh, and I go through an ADSL router too, which is a dhcp
server, and has limited protection too :-)</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Jon</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Francisco H Tapia [<A
href="mailto:my.lists@verizon.net">mailto:my.lists@verizon.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: 07 August 2003 17:40</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To:
Discussion of Hardware and Software issues</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject:
Fw: [dba-Tech] Pop-ups</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2> Jon,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> Why have
ad-aware and spybot? IMNSHO, spybot catches all and does a</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2> better job at it w/o taking your pc hostage while it
searches all</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> avenues (registry, memory, and
hdd). btw, I've found that sygate</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> personal
firewall is a more stable more secure firewall than</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2> zonealarm and it's still just as easy to use. Granted it
doens't</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> have all that AOL look and feel, but
everything is very intuitive.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>btw, with all the security you've got you never once mentioned
that</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> you surf via proxy ;o)</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>-Francisco</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> <A
href="http://rcm.netfirms.com"
target=_blank>http://rcm.netfirms.com</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>On Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:32 AM [GMT-8],</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2> Jon Tydda <Jon.Tydda@alcontrol.co.uk> wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: I've got a combination of stuff
- pop up stopper sthat permanently</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: stops the
persistent pop up IE windows, Zonealarm and McAfee Security</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:: Centre that filter out banner ads etc, and spybot that blocks</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>:: downloads and installs of spyware, and ad-aware to clean
it up</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: afterwards.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>:: Not very paranoid at all, as you can tell :-)</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::
Jon</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: -----Original
Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: From: Keith Williamson [<A
href="mailto:kwilliam@ashlandnet.com">mailto:kwilliam@ashlandnet.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>:: Sent: 07 August 2003 15:39</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: To:
dba-ot@databaseadvisors.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: Subject: RE: [dba-OT]
Pop-ups</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:: I'll throw my hat in for pop-up manager. Couldn't be
simpler. It is</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: quite funny....you can kind of
see that the pop-up tries to</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: energize....but the
manager (behind the scenes) just squashes it,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: like
a bug....automatically. And yet.. it hasn't blocked anything</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:: that it should not.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:: Keith E. Williamson</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: Ashland Equipment,
Inc</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: phone # (410) 273-1856</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:: fax # (410) 273-1859</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>:: From: dba-ot-bounces@databaseadvisors.com</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:: [<A
href="mailto:dba-ot-bounces@databaseadvisors.com">mailto:dba-ot-bounces@databaseadvisors.com</A>]
On Behalf Of Huffman,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: Jarad B. Sent: Thursday,
August 07, 2003 10:32 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: To:
'dba-ot@databaseadvisors.com'</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: Subject: RE: [dba-OT]
Pop-ups</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: I've been using
Popup Manager as well. I like it. It's simple and</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:: works great.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::
Jarad Huffman</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>:: -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::
From: Susan Harkins [<A
href="mailto:harkins@iglou.com">mailto:harkins@iglou.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:: Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:16 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::
To: dba-ot@databaseadvisors.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: Subject: Re:
[dba-OT] Pop-ups</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>:: I'm using Popup Manager -- was it Donna that recommended
it I think?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: -- anyway -- works great -- haven't
seen a popup yet.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:: Susan
H.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>::: How does this compare to webwasher?</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::: Patti</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>:::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>:::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::::
www.endpopups.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::::</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::::
great program, free, effective, smart!!!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>::::</FONT>
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