[dba-VB] Deploying .net solutions

Jim DeMarco Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org
Fri Apr 27 07:55:10 CDT 2007


There were certainly security issues in VS 2003 but I'm under the
impression they've been dealt with in 2005 but this is M$ we're talking
about. 


Jim

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I read about that on the internet last night, and it looks like it might
be a viable method.  I also read that it has some issues, particularly
in the presence of different versions of the .Net framework on the
desktop, and also IIRC something about security issues and what the app
is allowed to do.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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ClickOnce is the technology I was referring to. 


Jim

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John,

If you mean how are you going to get updates to users you should look at
"smart client" applications where the client is aware of changes and
downloads them from a central location before the app starts.  I don't
have much experience with it but I expect I will soon as we're moving a
major client/server app to .NET this year. 


Jim DeMarco

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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
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Subject: [dba-VB] Deploying .net solutions

I have a bunch of processes that are not particularly suited to Access
for one reason or another.  These include things like 
 
* doing what I call "directory watching" and performing some action when
a file appears.
* FTP transfers between local drives and FTP sites
* Building complex data feeds between a database and a remote mainframe
 
To take an example, I regularly build data feeds which look like:
 
Header Rec
Detail Rec
Detail Rec
Detail Rec
.
.
Trailer Rec
 
The header rec has some specific set of data in it such as who it is
coming from, the date of the file etc.
 
The detail recs have repetitive data such as payments to clients,
payment dates, from/to dates that the payment is for, the amount, the
check number etc.
 
The footer rec has some specific data in it such as the number of
checks, the bank account number that the checks are drawn against etc.
 
I have built a report generator in VBA, inside of access, and it works,
but it is really rather patchwork by nature.  I have to reference
specific libs, go outside of VBA to handle things like the file system
and text streams (in an object oriented manner) and so forth.  There are
no threads so a single error can hang the system, and things that should
happen in parallel have to happen sequentially.
 
So, I would like to take one of these systems and move it to .Net.  What
I am trying to discover is how .Net systems are (reliably) deployed to
the desktop.  Often times these applets are used by more than one
person, often at the same time.  At the moment, because they are Access
/ vba based, I just do a copy down to the desktop (a single file) and
open the mdb.  A form opens and the user goes to work.  These applets
are under constant development, literally daily as I finish one report
another is started.  Bug fixes are done.
 
I assume (but am not sure) that a VB.Net applet would be distributed as
well, downloaded to the desktop and run from there.  What is the vehicle
for this distribution?  
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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