Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed Apr 22 08:40:15 CDT 2009
Hi Arthur, I meant using colon -- ':' -- symbol instead of comma -- ',' --. Yes, I agree, let's not dispute the variations of English first of all because your English style and grammar is what I like a lot, and because SCRUM very nature is to avoid any dispute and to come to a consensus. Thus, let's come to a consensus for this special case where I wanted to somehow outline/deduct (using colon -- ':' -- symbol) the last part of sentence -- "for everybody's advantage" -- from the preceeding part -- "...to use the right tools for the right jobs" ? (And I used ellipsis -- '...' -- in my e-mail message to note that I'm quoting a sentence not from its beginning...) Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colon_(punctuation) I see I have probably used colon symbol as - "syntactical-deductive: introduces the logical consequence, or effect, of a fact stated before" but I must say such usage is deducted from Russian or Italian, both of which I learned a long ago - in previous century :) As far as I see you use a lot a construct with two dashes - '--' - let's use it in this sentence? "...to use the right tools for the right jobs -- for everybody's advantage." OK? Thank you. -- Shamil ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> To: Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:47:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [dba-VB] CodePlex Northwind.NET - Welcome, Mission Statement and Roadmap sections added to home page > We could dispute the variations of English for centuries, but IMO ellipses > and extended ellipses do not connote a pause of whatever length. But I don't > really care, one way or the other. Language is a verb: it ultimately > resolves to how it is used. Thus "to each their own", while striking my > linguistic brain cells as insane (singular resolving to plural), has become > the standard, and so I shall accept this construct. I shall never obey it -- > call me a fuddy-duddy -- but I shall accept it as the modern parlance. It > makes me puke but I have learned that it's best to regard such phrases as > sincere attempts to communicate, and the rules be damned! What is important > is to communicate, regardless of the rules. That said, I shall continue to > obey the rules of English as I learned them so long ago -- in a previous > century. > > One should neve end a sentence with a preposition. > Etc. > > My particular peccadillo. such phrasing makes me crazy. And yet, for certain > constructs the alternative is so stilted as to make one laugh. > > > 2009/4/21 Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> > > > > > Hi Arthur, > > > > Thank you. > > > > I have only changed back punctuation of one sentence: > > > > "...to use the right tools for the right jobs: for everybody's advantage." > > > > ':' symbol is intentionally used in it to make a longer pause while reading > > this sentence than a pause, which is used when comma ',' separates parts of > > a sentence - is that OK? > > > > -- > > Shamil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> > > To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues." < > > dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > > Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:57:10 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [dba-VB] CodePlex Northwind.NET - Welcome, Mission Statement > > and Roadmap sections added to home page > > > > > Hi Shamil, > > > > > > I have touched up your English text and hopefully improved it a little. > > > > > > Arthur > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Mike Mattys <mmattys at rochester.rr.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Warm. > > > > Inviting. > > > > Humorous. > > > > A touch of wonder added, as well. > > > > Very good! > > > > > > > > - > > > > Michael R Mattys > > > > MapPoint and Database Dev > > > > www.mattysconsulting.com > > > > - > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru> > > > > To: "dba-VB" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:13 AM > > > > Subject: [dba-VB] CodePlex Northwind.NET - Welcome,Mission Statement > > and > > > > Roadmap sections added to home page > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi SCRUM Team, > > > > > > > > > > Have a look at > > > > > > > > > > http://northwind.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Home > > > > > > > > > > I have added subject sections. > > > > > Are they OK with you? (I hope they are not sounding too ambitious.) > > > > > > > > > > Please use CodePlex wiki features to make the text of the subject > > > > sections > > > > > as you wanted it to be, please correct my English when needed - > > > > especially > > > > > when it sounds too ambitious, lengthy or heavy for your native > > English > > > > > speakers ears... > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Shamil > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > dba-VB mailing list > > > > > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > > > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-VB mailing list > > > > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >