[dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication

Shamil Salakhetdinov shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Fri Sep 4 04:02:19 CDT 2009


Hi Mark,

Here is the info on GoogleMaps (API) usage in commercial applications - I
have got it from Mike:

<<<
For External Applications (public facing sites or customer facing extranets)
* $10,000 for 1 million page views per year
* $20,000 for 2 million page views per year
* $30,000 for 3 million page views per year
* $40,000 for 5 million page views per year
* Please call for pricing above 5 external million page views per year

For Internal Applications (internal applications, non-customer facing)
* $10,000 for 250K page views per year
* $20,000 for 500K views per year
* $30,000 for 750K page views per year
* $40,000 for 1.5 million page views per year
* Please call for pricing above 1.5 million internal page views per year

FAQ
How can I try out the Google Maps API?
For development purpose you are authorized to use a Free Google Maps
license key as an Enterprise License key for 30 days. This means that
you are licensed to use Google Maps behind the firewall, in an
internal application, or as part of paid or premium content for 30
days (e.g. the Enterprisefull licensing agreement). The 30 day free
trial is still subject to a limit of 15,000 geocodes per day.

To sign up for the key, please visit
http://code.google.com/apis/maps/signup.html 
 If you have already
signed up for a key, please mark the date of this e-mail as the start
of your 30 day free trial.
>>>

AFAIS GoogleMaps is not free - and if used from available on SnowCovered DNN
modules one have to pay for both - a DNN module license and Google Maps API
usage.

Correct?

Thank you.

--
Shamil


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:51 PM
To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication

Hello Shamil and Mike,
Shamil, perhaps I am missing something here, but I would have assumed that
you are free to use Google Maps for your application.  Why can you not?  Of
did I miss something that you need a wrapper for Google maps?

When I searched on SnowCovered I see plenty of Google Map providers, so I
guess you must be looking for something else?

thanks

Mark



2009/9/4 Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>

> Hi Mike,
>
> Don't worry.
> No problem at all.
> Your remark is accepted here with pleasure.
> If you think I like open source that wouldn't be true :)
> But I have to accept that "open source software phenomena" as reality, and
> to find how to live with it with as little as possible "damage" to my own
> and other developers business. You know I started my development carrier
> when there was no yet that phenomena. Nowadays I'd probably not go into
> programming because of "corruption" of that profession introduced by open
> source. Although AFAIS the "greed" of commercial solutions' software shops
> together with rather low quality of many of that solutions especially in
> 1990-ies was one of the driving forces of the "open source software"....
>
> You convinced me - I'd try to use as little as possible open source
> software
> solutions - none will be ideal.
>
> And sharing experience as we're doing here and making sample solutions
etc.
> - I'll continue doing that as this activity helps to learn new
> technologies,
> helps to minimize routine everyday work etc.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:14 AM
> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>
> Shamil,
>
> I wasn't trying to be rude, I really don't understand
> the Open-Source thing.
>
> Really.
>
> -
> Michael R Mattys
> MapPoint and Database Dev
> www.mattysconsulting.com
> -
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues."
> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business
> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>
>
> > Shamil,
> >
> > Doesn't it simply mean that you'll put a lot of web mapping
> > programmers in a lower income bracket and only big companies
> > will benefit?
> >
> > -
> > Michael R Mattys
> > MapPoint and Database Dev
> > www.mattysconsulting.com
> > -
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
> > To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming
> issues.'"
> > <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business
> > objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
> >
> >
> >> Hi Mike,
> >>
> >> OK. If I can "GET" Mapstraction with something else open source (read
> >> "free") to implement the referred below functionality then I'd try to
> >> "GIVE"
> >> back developed here free/open source DotNetNuke (DNN) module wrapping
> >> that
> >> functionality to be reused by others - would that be a "fair exchange"?
> >> :)
> >>
> >> Maybe I should ask it that way - do you know what provider Mapstraction
> >> talks to here:
> >>
> >> http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/search_easy.asp#loc_country=26
> >>
> >> I mean you mentioned that the above site's map navigation is developed
> >> using
> >> Mapstraction - maybe you know also what GIS data/API provider it's used
> >> there?
> >>
> >> The only functionality, which is needed here currently is:
> >>
> >> - to show a country map with regions/states;
> >> - highlight/show tooltip of region/state on mouse move;
> >> - zoom region/state when it's clicked by mouse;
> >> - highlight sub-regions (if any).
> >>
> >> Purchasing advanced commercial GIS systems for the above functionality
> is
> >> looking currently excessive here (for my customer).
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shamil
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:58 PM
> >> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
> >> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
> >> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NET application
> >>
> >> Shamil,
> >>
> >> I can't be quoted as an authority on this because I don't really
> >> understand "open source" in a world based upon "GET" instead
> >> of "GIVE"  ... perhaps I need to attend LAW school (ha ha!)
> >>
> >> However, It appears that OSM is free but Mapstraction does not yet
> >> 'talk' with OpenStreetMaps. They are planning to do so.
> >>
> >> Then again, they seem to be asking for participation in the project ...
> >>
> >> -
> >> Michael R Mattys
> >> MapPoint and Database Dev
> >> www.mattysconsulting.com
> >> -
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
> >> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming
> >> issues.'"
> >> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:53 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
> >> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NET application
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> Would that be correct assumption that using Mapstraction with
> >>> OpenStreetMaps
> >>> is free for commercial Web applications? And when my customer will get
> >>> some
> >>> "fat" it will be not that complicated to switch to GoogleMaps or other
> >>> commercial GIS solution providers as Mapstraction provides good
> >>> JavaScript
> >>> abstraction layer?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Shamil
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:41 AM
> >>> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
> >>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Map search/navigation/business
> >>> objectspresentation/drawing in ASP.NET application
> >>>
> >>> Hi Shamil,
> >>>
> >>> It is Mapstraction
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Michael R Mattys
> >>> MapPoint and Database Dev
> >>> www.mattysconsulting.com
> >>> -
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
> >>> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming
> >>> issues.'"
> >>> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:38 PM
> >>> Subject: [dba-VB] Map search/navigation/business
> >>> objectspresentation/drawing
> >>>
> >>> in ASP.NET application
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I hae a project where I was requested to implement something like the
> >>>> following map search/navigation
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/search_easy.asp#loc_country=34
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> in an ASP.NET application. The customer is a small company, and they
> >>>> can't
> >>>> currently afford Google Maps API rates for commercial usage.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you know any economic alternatives/third-party tools as e.g. on
the
> >>>> referred web page?
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, do you know what tools used for map navigation on that referred
> >>>> above
> >>>> web page?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Shamil
> >>>>
>
>
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