jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Mon Feb 7 08:19:37 CST 2011
Shamil et al, > I currently wanted to solve the issue with porting .NET WinForms application to the Web the shortest possible(?) way (WinForms Controls -> XBAP) Can I assume that the application runs exactly as it would if it were native, except that it is in a sandbox in a browser? What problem does that solve? What problems does that create? I am not fond of browser applications. We end up losing a ton of screen real estate to an unknown quantity of toolbars that the user has installed, then end up with sliders in all directions etc. I actively dislike "native" browser applications, i.e. HTML / "clunky" applications. I am very interested in applications running over the internet and hitting a database at the other end but I am very wary of getting a browser involved. I am interested in services. It seems like a natural solution, already widely used and understood - though I do not understand the details yet. It just seems like a downloadable application that can talk via services would be much more fluid and "windows like" than anything involving a browser. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com On 2/4/2011 3:33 PM, Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: > Hi Gustav -- > > Thank you. > > In fact we started that project together with you, Mike, Mark, Dough, Arthur > in March 2009 > > http://northwind.codeplex.com/team/view > > and I do think all you guys will contribute quite some more useful stuff in > this project! > > I currently wanted to solve the issue with porting .NET WinForms application > to the Web the shortest possible(?) way (WinForms Controls -> XBAP) but I > have got stuck with position (5) of the current roadmap plan: > > - 1) DONE: WinForms + ADO.NET -> > - 2) DONE: WinForms + WinForms UserControls + ADO.NET -> > - 3) DONE: WinForms + WinForms UserControls + ADO.NET EF (EDM) -> > - 4) DONE: WPF host form with WindowsFormsHost control hosting WinForms > UserControls + ADO.NET EF (EDM) -> > - 5) XBAP host page with WindowsFormsHost control hosting WinForms > UserControls + ADO.NET EF (EDM) with backend db on the same site -> > - 6) XBAP host page with WindowsFormsHost control hosting WinForms > UserControls + WCF Data Services (formerly ADO.NET Data Services) -> > - 7) XBAP host page with WPF UserControls + WCF Data Services (formerly > ADO.NET Data Services) -> > - 8) Silverlight + WCF Data Services (formerly ADO.NET Data Services) -> > - 9) Silverlight + Windows Azure Services... > - .... > > Any takers? > > Please note/comment if you see some "hardcore" issues with the above roadmap > plan... > > Thank you. > > -- > Shamil > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: 4 ??????? 2011 ?. 19:14 > To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [dba-VB] Northwind.NET v.2.1 released - RE: Ded Moroz sends > youlinks on sample projects... :) > > Hi Shamil > > Great! > I can recommend everyone to study this. > > /gustav > > >>>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 04-02-2011 16:03:32>>> > Hi All -- > > I have just got released: > > Northwind.NET v.2.1 (.NET Framework 4.0) > > http://northwind.codeplex.com/releases > > All source code can be obtained from above page by downloading zip archive > or from the following page > > http://northwind.codeplex.com/SourceControl/list/changesets > > by using SVN. > > Looking for tips& tricks how to make in the next release "quick& dirty" > XBAP port of WPF + WinForms user controls released this time. > > Enjoy! > > Thank you. > > -- > Shamil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru] > Sent: 31 ******* 2010 *. 15:14 > To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.'; > 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Ded Moroz sends you links on sample projects... :) > > Hi All -- > > New Year Eve is approaching here, and I wanted to send you some gifts from > Ded Moroz - here they are: > > This is a set of projects I have got developed a few days ago during > 40+ > hours R&D coding marathon. > The task was to finish all the work in about 40 hours. > So a few bugs left in there as release deadline wasn't possible to move. > They (the bugs) are described in readme. > But in general all the sample apps work rather well as my tests here show. > > I'd be interested to hear any comments - in what direction that sample > should be better developed. > Please write them here, or on http://northwind.codeplex.com . > Please do not "judge severely" as as I noted that was very intensive R&D > work with little time to think through while coding :) But feel free to > comment it as you like. > *Do not try* to be politcorrect. > Please. > > I wish all of your Very Happy and Prosperous New Year! > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > P.S. Short description of published projects (the sources get downloaded 19 > times already and I have got informed privately a couple of days ago just > three people): > > NorthwindNET_4_0_Sources.zip (~24MB) > http://northwind.codeplex.com/releases/view/26600#DownloadId=192044 > > NorthwindNET_4_0_SampleApps_Setup.zip (~5MB) > http://northwind.codeplex.com/releases/view/26600#DownloadId=192043 > > Northwind.NET.VS2010.sln > ======================== > 1. Northwind.NET.EDM.FE - WinForms Front-End (just start-up class and > app.config); 2. Northwind.NET.EDM.WinForms.Controls - UI UserControls; 3. > Northwind.NET.EDM.Reports - MS ReportViewer 10.0 Reports; 4. > Northwind.NET.BLL - Business Layer Library (ADO.NET EDM LINQ Reports' > data sources); > 5. Northwind.NET.Model - ADO.NET EDM; > 6. Northwind.NET.Settings - application settings (wrappers); 7. > Northwind.NET.Resources - application resource file; 8. > Northwind.NET.Utilities - utility class library; 9. > Northwind.NET.Testing.Console - some test functions - it's not true TDD > - > just a rough approximation; > > Northwind.NET.MSAccess.sln > ========================== > I. WinForms FE with MS Access backend > Northwind.NET.FE.1.1 - Northwind.NET FE with MS Access backend > Northwind.NET.Utilities - Utilities project > > II. ASP.NET sample application with MS Access backend > E:/Projects/SMS/Northwind/Northwind.ASP.NET.MSAccess.Reporting/ - ASP.NET > project > > III. Just a test ASP.NET app - can be removed > E:\Projects\SMS\Northwind\Northwind.ASP.NET.MSAccess.Reporting.RDLC.10.0.0.0 > > Northwind.NET.zzz_OLD.sln > ========================= > 1. Northwind.NET.FE - WinForms Front-End with MS SQL backend using "plain > old" ADO.NET data sets - the project we did last year's April. > 2. 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