From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Thu Feb 6 21:09:24 2014 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 03:09:24 +0000 Subject: [dba-VB] Encrypt password Message-ID: To all, I'm starting to write a vb.net app which will link to a sql server database, I want the passwords in the user table on the SQL server database to be encrypted one way, then if they forget the password can request a new one. Firstly I used to use MD5 when I worked at my last company, but have heard this can be cracked, anyone have any other recommendations, I don't mind if the password encryption happens on the vb.net app or the sql server database. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 6 23:48:47 2014 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 22:48:47 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-VB] Encrypt password In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <502192728.3345903.1391752127047.JavaMail.root@cds002> Hi Paul: MD5 encryption is useless. It can be cracked in seconds. http://md5decrypter.co.uk/ Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hartland" To: "VisualBasicList" Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 7:09:24 PM Subject: [dba-VB] Encrypt password To all, I'm starting to write a vb.net app which will link to a sql server database, I want the passwords in the user table on the SQL server database to be encrypted one way, then if they forget the password can request a new one. Firstly I used to use MD5 when I worked at my last company, but have heard this can be cracked, anyone have any other recommendations, I don't mind if the password encryption happens on the vb.net app or the sql server database. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mcp2004 at mail.ru Fri Feb 7 03:14:53 2014 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:14:53 +0400 Subject: [dba-VB] =?utf-8?q?Encrypt_password?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1391764493.541172670@f397.i.mail.ru> Hi Paul -- For encryption in a VB.NET program you can use .NET's? System.Security.Cryptography Have a look at the following samples: " Cryptography in .NET : Advanced Encryption Standard?(AES) " http://stephenhaunts.com/2013/03/04/cryptography-in-net-advanced-encryption-standard-aes/ " .NET Encryption Simplified" http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10154/NET-Encryption-Simplified -- Shamil Friday, February 7, 2014 3:09 AM UTC from Paul Hartland : >To all, > >I'm starting to write a vb.net app which will link to a sql server >database, I want the passwords in the user table on the SQL server database >to be encrypted one way, then if they forget the password can request a new >one. Firstly I used to use MD5 when I worked at my last company, but have >heard this can be cracked, anyone have any other recommendations, I don't >mind if the password encryption happens on the vb.net app or the sql server >database. > >Thanks in advance for any help. > >-- >Paul Hartland >paul.hartland at googlemail.com >_______________________________________________ >dba-VB mailing list >dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb >http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- ???????????? ?????? From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Fri Feb 7 05:47:09 2014 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 11:47:09 +0000 Subject: [dba-VB] Encrypt password In-Reply-To: <1391764493.541172670@f397.i.mail.ru> References: <1391764493.541172670@f397.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: Thanks for the replies, will start having a look later this afternoon. On 7 February 2014 09:14, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote: > Hi Paul -- > > For encryption in a VB.NET program you can use .NET's > System.Security.Cryptography > > Have a look at the following samples: > > " Cryptography in .NET : Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) " > > http://stephenhaunts.com/2013/03/04/cryptography-in-net-advanced-encryption-standard-aes/ > > " .NET Encryption Simplified" > > > http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10154/NET-Encryption-Simplified > > > -- Shamil > > Friday, February 7, 2014 3:09 AM UTC from Paul Hartland < > paul.hartland at googlemail.com>: > >To all, > > > >I'm starting to write a vb.net app which will link to a sql server > >database, I want the passwords in the user table on the SQL server > database > >to be encrypted one way, then if they forget the password can request a > new > >one. Firstly I used to use MD5 when I worked at my last company, but have > >heard this can be cracked, anyone have any other recommendations, I don't > >mind if the password encryption happens on the vb.net app or the sql > server > >database. > > > >Thanks in advance for any help. > > > >-- > >Paul Hartland > >paul.hartland at googlemail.com > >_______________________________________________ > >dba-VB mailing list > >dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > >http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > ???????????? ?????? > _______________________________________________ > dba-VB mailing list > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From jwcolby at gmail.com Fri Feb 7 08:52:40 2014 From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W Colby) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 09:52:40 -0500 Subject: [dba-VB] [SPAM] Encrypt password In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52F4F338.3000700@gmail.com> Paul, Use a one way hash to hash the password, then save that hash in the table. When the user enters their password, hash it and compare to the stored hash. If they match then the user entered the correct password. No encryption, no keys, no stored password to be stolen. John W. Colby Reality is what refuses to go away when you do not believe in it On 2/6/2014 10:09 PM, Paul Hartland wrote: > To all, > > I'm starting to write a vb.net app which will link to a sql server > database, I want the passwords in the user table on the SQL server database > to be encrypted one way, then if they forget the password can request a new > one. Firstly I used to use MD5 when I worked at my last company, but have > heard this can be cracked, anyone have any other recommendations, I don't > mind if the password encryption happens on the vb.net app or the sql server > database. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 7 13:36:07 2014 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 12:36:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [dba-VB] Encrypt password In-Reply-To: <1391764493.541172670@f397.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: <619796259.3906921.1391801767772.JavaMail.root@cds002> Hi Shamil: Thanks for posting. To my understanding AES is one of the two or is it 3(?), OSS encryption ciphers which has not be cracked or are liable to be...which make it a very good choice for business use or any privacy needs for that matter. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues." Sent: Friday, 7 February, 2014 1:14:53 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Encrypt password Hi Paul -- For encryption in a VB.NET program you can use .NET's? System.Security.Cryptography Have a look at the following samples: " Cryptography in .NET : Advanced Encryption Standard?(AES) " http://stephenhaunts.com/2013/03/04/cryptography-in-net-advanced-encryption-standard-aes/ " .NET Encryption Simplified" http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10154/NET-Encryption-Simplified -- Shamil Friday, February 7, 2014 3:09 AM UTC from Paul Hartland : >To all, > >I'm starting to write a vb.net app which will link to a sql server >database, I want the passwords in the user table on the SQL server database >to be encrypted one way, then if they forget the password can request a new >one. Firstly I used to use MD5 when I worked at my last company, but have >heard this can be cracked, anyone have any other recommendations, I don't >mind if the password encryption happens on the vb.net app or the sql server >database. > >Thanks in advance for any help. > >-- >Paul Hartland >paul.hartland at googlemail.com >_______________________________________________ >dba-VB mailing list >dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb >http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- ???????????? ?????? _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com From df.waters at comcast.net Sat Feb 15 10:07:46 2014 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:07:46 -0600 Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Message-ID: <000901cf2a68$113f4c00$33bde400$@comcast.net> Hello! I've been struggling with VS 2013 for 2 days now. I'm transitioning from 2010 to 2013 over the last few weeks, and have come across a problem that I just can't find a solution for. I have a report where the data I am giving the report apparently has no rows, or is null. The problem though is that when the error occurs, I get a tab which says, 'Source not Found', or 'Can't find Microsoft.ReportViewer.Common.pdb'. The same problem exists with Microsoft.ReportViewer.Winforms.pdb. Through lots of searching, I've been able to determine that the .pdb file should be automatically loaded when the form with the report viewer control opens, but it's not. After I start the app, I can select Debug | Windows | Modules. This displays a window showing all the .dll files, and which of these have loaded their corresponding .pdb files. You can right-click each .dll file to ensure that the corresponding .pdb file should be loaded automatically, and you can force it to load right then. But even when I force the .pdb file to load, it won't. This problem happens with VS 2013 (and also 2012), but not with VS 2010. Because of this, I can't feasibly use VS 2013, and unfortunately need to just return to VS 2010. I have uninstalled/reinstalled VS 2010, VS 2013, and .Net 4/4.51. Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to solve it? Thanks! Dan Waters From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 15 11:41:14 2014 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:41:14 +0100 Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Message-ID: Hi Dan No, but I located some possible hints here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2806993/no-source-available /gustav >>> df.waters at comcast.net 15-02-14 17:07 >>> Hello! I've been struggling with VS 2013 for 2 days now. I'm transitioning from 2010 to 2013 over the last few weeks, and have come across a problem that I just can't find a solution for. I have a report where the data I am giving the report apparently has no rows, or is null. The problem though is that when the error occurs, I get a tab which says, 'Source not Found', or 'Can't find Microsoft.ReportViewer.Common.pdb'. The same problem exists with Microsoft.ReportViewer.Winforms.pdb. Through lots of searching, I've been able to determine that the .pdb file should be automatically loaded when the form with the report viewer control opens, but it's not. After I start the app, I can select Debug | Windows | Modules. This displays a window showing all the .dll files, and which of these have loaded their corresponding .pdb files. You can right-click each .dll file to ensure that the corresponding .pdb file should be loaded automatically, and you can force it to load right then. But even when I force the .pdb file to load, it won't. This problem happens with VS 2013 (and also 2012), but not with VS 2010. Because of this, I can't feasibly use VS 2013, and unfortunately need to just return to VS 2010. I have uninstalled/reinstalled VS 2010, VS 2013, and .Net 4/4.51. Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to solve it? Thanks! Dan Waters From df.waters at comcast.net Sat Feb 15 14:48:53 2014 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:48:53 -0600 Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301cf2a8f$56f12d50$04d387f0$@comcast.net> Hi Gustav, That was a good list of things to try - but unfortunately none of it worked. Is there a way to contact MS for free/low cost somehow? Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:41 AM To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Hi Dan No, but I located some possible hints here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2806993/no-source-available /gustav >>> df.waters at comcast.net 15-02-14 17:07 >>> Hello! I've been struggling with VS 2013 for 2 days now. I'm transitioning from 2010 to 2013 over the last few weeks, and have come across a problem that I just can't find a solution for. I have a report where the data I am giving the report apparently has no rows, or is null. The problem though is that when the error occurs, I get a tab which says, 'Source not Found', or 'Can't find Microsoft.ReportViewer.Common.pdb'. The same problem exists with Microsoft.ReportViewer.Winforms.pdb. Through lots of searching, I've been able to determine that the .pdb file should be automatically loaded when the form with the report viewer control opens, but it's not. After I start the app, I can select Debug | Windows | Modules. This displays a window showing all the .dll files, and which of these have loaded their corresponding .pdb files. You can right-click each .dll file to ensure that the corresponding .pdb file should be loaded automatically, and you can force it to load right then. But even when I force the .pdb file to load, it won't. This problem happens with VS 2013 (and also 2012), but not with VS 2010. Because of this, I can't feasibly use VS 2013, and unfortunately need to just return to VS 2010. I have uninstalled/reinstalled VS 2010, VS 2013, and .Net 4/4.51. Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to solve it? Thanks! Dan Waters _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 15 16:05:53 2014 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:05:53 +0100 Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Message-ID: Hi Dan I would suggest the MS fora. /gustav >>> df.waters at comcast.net 15-02-14 21:48 >>> Hi Gustav, That was a good list of things to try - but unfortunately none of it worked. Is there a way to contact MS for free/low cost somehow? Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:41 AM To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Hi Dan No, but I located some possible hints here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2806993/no-source-available /gustav >>> df.waters at comcast.net 15-02-14 17:07 >>> Hello! I've been struggling with VS 2013 for 2 days now. I'm transitioning from 2010 to 2013 over the last few weeks, and have come across a problem that I just can't find a solution for. I have a report where the data I am giving the report apparently has no rows, or is null. The problem though is that when the error occurs, I get a tab which says, 'Source not Found', or 'Can't find Microsoft.ReportViewer.Common.pdb'. The same problem exists with Microsoft.ReportViewer.Winforms.pdb. Through lots of searching, I've been able to determine that the .pdb file should be automatically loaded when the form with the report viewer control opens, but it's not. After I start the app, I can select Debug | Windows | Modules. This displays a window showing all the .dll files, and which of these have loaded their corresponding .pdb files. You can right-click each .dll file to ensure that the corresponding .pdb file should be loaded automatically, and you can force it to load right then. But even when I force the .pdb file to load, it won't. This problem happens with VS 2013 (and also 2012), but not with VS 2010. Because of this, I can't feasibly use VS 2013, and unfortunately need to just return to VS 2010. I have uninstalled/reinstalled VS 2010, VS 2013, and .Net 4/4.51. Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to solve it? Thanks! Dan Waters From df.waters at comcast.net Sat Feb 15 16:40:43 2014 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:40:43 -0600 Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001cf2a9e$f66b4be0$e341e3a0$@comcast.net> How do I get to that site? -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:06 PM To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Hi Dan I would suggest the MS fora. /gustav >>> df.waters at comcast.net 15-02-14 21:48 >>> Hi Gustav, That was a good list of things to try - but unfortunately none of it worked. Is there a way to contact MS for free/low cost somehow? Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:41 AM To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Hi Dan No, but I located some possible hints here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2806993/no-source-available /gustav >>> df.waters at comcast.net 15-02-14 17:07 >>> Hello! I've been struggling with VS 2013 for 2 days now. I'm transitioning from 2010 to 2013 over the last few weeks, and have come across a problem that I just can't find a solution for. I have a report where the data I am giving the report apparently has no rows, or is null. The problem though is that when the error occurs, I get a tab which says, 'Source not Found', or 'Can't find Microsoft.ReportViewer.Common.pdb'. The same problem exists with Microsoft.ReportViewer.Winforms.pdb. Through lots of searching, I've been able to determine that the .pdb file should be automatically loaded when the form with the report viewer control opens, but it's not. After I start the app, I can select Debug | Windows | Modules. This displays a window showing all the .dll files, and which of these have loaded their corresponding .pdb files. You can right-click each .dll file to ensure that the corresponding .pdb file should be loaded automatically, and you can force it to load right then. But even when I force the .pdb file to load, it won't. This problem happens with VS 2013 (and also 2012), but not with VS 2010. Because of this, I can't feasibly use VS 2013, and unfortunately need to just return to VS 2010. I have uninstalled/reinstalled VS 2010, VS 2013, and .Net 4/4.51. Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to solve it? Thanks! Dan Waters _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Sun Feb 16 12:17:41 2014 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 10:17:41 -0800 Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00bd01cf2b43$61c11240$254336c0$@cox.net> Dan, Not sure if this could be the issue but take a look at http://devproconnections.com/net-framework/net-framework-and-dll-hell. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:08 AM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Hello! I've been struggling with VS 2013 for 2 days now. I'm transitioning from 2010 to 2013 over the last few weeks, and have come across a problem that I just can't find a solution for. I have a report where the data I am giving the report apparently has no rows, or is null. The problem though is that when the error occurs, I get a tab which says, 'Source not Found', or 'Can't find Microsoft.ReportViewer.Common.pdb'. The same problem exists with Microsoft.ReportViewer.Winforms.pdb. Through lots of searching, I've been able to determine that the .pdb file should be automatically loaded when the form with the report viewer control opens, but it's not. After I start the app, I can select Debug | Windows | Modules. This displays a window showing all the .dll files, and which of these have loaded their corresponding .pdb files. You can right-click each .dll file to ensure that the corresponding .pdb file should be loaded automatically, and you can force it to load right then. But even when I force the .pdb file to load, it won't. This problem happens with VS 2013 (and also 2012), but not with VS 2010. Because of this, I can't feasibly use VS 2013, and unfortunately need to just return to VS 2010. I have uninstalled/reinstalled VS 2010, VS 2013, and .Net 4/4.51. Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to solve it? Thanks! Dan Waters _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com From df.waters at comcast.net Mon Feb 17 09:24:57 2014 From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:24:57 -0600 Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? In-Reply-To: <00bd01cf2b43$61c11240$254336c0$@cox.net> References: <00bd01cf2b43$61c11240$254336c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <004b01cf2bf4$6ad43360$407c9a20$@comcast.net> Hi Doug, Along with my experiences and after reading this article I'm beginning to wonder if the solution is to only apply a new version of VS / .Net framework to a PC that has never had either one installed previously. For me, it's easier to just use VS 2010. Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 12:18 PM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Dan, Not sure if this could be the issue but take a look at http://devproconnections.com/net-framework/net-framework-and-dll-hell. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:08 AM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Hello! I've been struggling with VS 2013 for 2 days now. I'm transitioning from 2010 to 2013 over the last few weeks, and have come across a problem that I just can't find a solution for. I have a report where the data I am giving the report apparently has no rows, or is null. The problem though is that when the error occurs, I get a tab which says, 'Source not Found', or 'Can't find Microsoft.ReportViewer.Common.pdb'. The same problem exists with Microsoft.ReportViewer.Winforms.pdb. Through lots of searching, I've been able to determine that the .pdb file should be automatically loaded when the form with the report viewer control opens, but it's not. After I start the app, I can select Debug | Windows | Modules. This displays a window showing all the .dll files, and which of these have loaded their corresponding .pdb files. You can right-click each .dll file to ensure that the corresponding .pdb file should be loaded automatically, and you can force it to load right then. But even when I force the .pdb file to load, it won't. This problem happens with VS 2013 (and also 2012), but not with VS 2010. Because of this, I can't feasibly use VS 2013, and unfortunately need to just return to VS 2010. I have uninstalled/reinstalled VS 2010, VS 2013, and .Net 4/4.51. Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to solve it? Thanks! Dan Waters _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Mon Feb 17 10:55:07 2014 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:55:07 -0800 Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? In-Reply-To: References: <00bd01cf2b43$61c11240$254336c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <004701cf2c01$02e4c410$08ae4c30$@cox.net> Dan, I am still using 2010. I have 2013, but have been reluctant to install on my development machine for the reason you have found. I may put on a virtual machine to see how it works. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:25 AM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Hi Doug, Along with my experiences and after reading this article I'm beginning to wonder if the solution is to only apply a new version of VS / .Net framework to a PC that has never had either one installed previously. For me, it's easier to just use VS 2010. Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 12:18 PM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Dan, Not sure if this could be the issue but take a look at http://devproconnections.com/net-framework/net-framework-and-dll-hell. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:08 AM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: [dba-VB] Missing .pdb file? Hello! I've been struggling with VS 2013 for 2 days now. I'm transitioning from 2010 to 2013 over the last few weeks, and have come across a problem that I just can't find a solution for. I have a report where the data I am giving the report apparently has no rows, or is null. The problem though is that when the error occurs, I get a tab which says, 'Source not Found', or 'Can't find Microsoft.ReportViewer.Common.pdb'. The same problem exists with Microsoft.ReportViewer.Winforms.pdb. Through lots of searching, I've been able to determine that the .pdb file should be automatically loaded when the form with the report viewer control opens, but it's not. After I start the app, I can select Debug | Windows | Modules. This displays a window showing all the .dll files, and which of these have loaded their corresponding .pdb files. You can right-click each .dll file to ensure that the corresponding .pdb file should be loaded automatically, and you can force it to load right then. But even when I force the .pdb file to load, it won't. This problem happens with VS 2013 (and also 2012), but not with VS 2010. Because of this, I can't feasibly use VS 2013, and unfortunately need to just return to VS 2010. I have uninstalled/reinstalled VS 2010, VS 2013, and .Net 4/4.51. Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to solve it? Thanks! Dan Waters _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Fri Feb 21 09:10:36 2014 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:10:36 +0000 Subject: [dba-VB] License Keys Message-ID: To all, I have been unemployed for around 12 months now and been trying to teach myself vb.net, c#, asp.net, php etc....I am at a stage where I am thinking of going self-employed and I have a few software ideas, however I have never come across how to put license keys onto an application. could anyone point me in the direction of how to do this, so that a user can have the software for about 30 days, but then if not entered a license key it will not work etc. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Fri Feb 21 11:13:00 2014 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:13:00 -0800 Subject: [dba-VB] License Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002d01cf2f28$2c3c9980$84b5cc80$@cox.net> Paul, Dan Appleman has been around for a long time in the Windows community. His product isn't cheap but I would expect it would be good. I have not had any experience with it. http://www.desaware.com/ The other source to look at is CodeProject. They have a lot of open source material on their site. For our Access products we rolled our own system. Seems to have worked but it is specific to our software. -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:11 AM To: VisualBasicList Subject: [dba-VB] License Keys To all, I have been unemployed for around 12 months now and been trying to teach myself vb.net, c#, asp.net, php etc....I am at a stage where I am thinking of going self-employed and I have a few software ideas, however I have never come across how to put license keys onto an application. could anyone point me in the direction of how to do this, so that a user can have the software for about 30 days, but then if not entered a license key it will not work etc. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Fri Feb 21 11:35:50 2014 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:35:50 +0000 Subject: [dba-VB] License Keys In-Reply-To: <002d01cf2f28$2c3c9980$84b5cc80$@cox.net> References: <002d01cf2f28$2c3c9980$84b5cc80$@cox.net> Message-ID: Thank you will look into it. Paul On 21 February 2014 17:13, Doug Murphy wrote: > Paul, > > Dan Appleman has been around for a long time in the Windows community. His > product isn't cheap but I would expect it would be good. I have not had any > experience with it. http://www.desaware.com/ > > The other source to look at is CodeProject. They have a lot of open source > material on their site. For our Access products we rolled our own system. > Seems to have worked but it is specific to our software. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:11 AM > To: VisualBasicList > Subject: [dba-VB] License Keys > > To all, > > I have been unemployed for around 12 months now and been trying to teach > myself vb.net, c#, asp.net, php etc....I am at a stage where I am thinking > of going self-employed and I have a few software ideas, however I have > never > come across how to put license keys onto an application. could anyone > point > me in the direction of how to do this, so that a user can have the software > for about 30 days, but then if not entered a license key it will not work > etc. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > -- > Paul Hartland > paul.hartland at googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-VB mailing list > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-VB mailing list > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com