[dba-VS] Part I: Cross-posted from dba-OT: MVVM explained - looking for English language heavy review/revision, and technical review

[Salakhetdinov Shamil]

 Hi Gustav --

Just a very small wheel, and probably a bit gnarly, kneed, three-cornered and angular. But just a bit. And (hopefully) flexible and open ended for extensions as Angular  (pun intended :) 
have spent a couple of days on it less than 10% of all the project time I have spent working on so far - and the advantage of this "reinvention" is that I have got a valuable learning curve experience and that all this MVVM stuff is now looking natural for me not something forced to follow because of the "best software development practices religious guidelines". And you know this W{F/SL MVVM approach looks like my "DEEP-object Concept" dreams come true. Finally. Of course doing something like that in VBA and/or VB6 or even earlier versions of .NET Framework was a very risky way. Well, this development approach still have to be proven fro myself in the real life app deployment. The latter is expected to happen real soon - in a (couple) of weeks - a month. We will see. Well, quite a few other projects I have developed during last years using .NET Framework-based technologies are running 24x7x365, so the chances this one will run well are high... in the case it will be released in time and on money...

Resume: When learning by doing  mainly not from your own experience but from other open sources spread over Internet you might be influenced by other devs' opinions, "bad karma" etc. - doing it by yourself you're "clearing your dev experience karma".... in the case you succeed...

And you just need to challenge yourself once in a while to not sour from monotonic business apps everyday development...

Thank you.

-- Shamil


>Tuesday, September  8, 2015 6:09 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>
>Hi Shamil
>
>Thanks for the links.
>
>So you did reinvent the wheel ...? (Just wondering - not that I expect a deep explanation, that would pull time from your project).
>
>/gustav
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 8. september 2015 00:50
>Til: Development in Visual Studio < dba-vs at databaseadvisors.com >
>Emne: Re: [dba-VS] Part I: Cross-posted from dba-OT: MVVM explained - looking for English language heavy review/revision, and technical review
>
> Hi Gustav at Al --
>
>If you'll ever try to study MVVM - start here
>
>https://rachel53461.wordpress.com/2011/12/18/navigation-with-mvvm-2/
>
>Try to understand what is done here.
>I missed this page a few days ago and I have been planning today to add something like that as an "extension" of my "light app framework" but luckily I have got at the referred in this post web page.
>
>MVVM seems to be a ubiquitous solution for quite a few tough everyday UI development tasks - and everything, I'd outline *everything*, looks so simple and straightforward when MVVM is properly applied as in the sample referred above.
>
>Well, here is some criticism for balance:
>
>Never In Doubt
>http://neverindoubtnet.blogspot.ru/2011/05/mvvm-backlash.html
>The MVVM Pattern Is Highly Overrated
>http://thatextramile.be/blog/2010/07/the-mvvm-pattern-is-highly-overrated/
>MVVM criticism
>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/davihard/archive/2010/04/26/mvvm-criticism.aspx
>A lot of MVVM is junk! 
>https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/vstudio/en-US/3bced3ea-4a97-4456-bfe5-828289bcf971/a-lot-of-mvvm-is-junk?forum=wpf
>Rules of MVVM??
>http://michaelsync.net/2010/02/03/rules-of-mvvm
>
>And this is probably something, which covers my light MVVM app framework but I currently do not have tome to investigate it:
>
>MVVM Light Toolkit
>http://www.mvvmlight.net/
>http://mvvmlight.codeplex.com/
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>>Monday, September  7, 2015 8:05 PM +03:00 from Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru >:
>>
>>Hi Gustav --
>>
>>Thank you for your comment.
>>
>>The "light SL/WPF aplication framework" is done. I have tested it a few time using both SL and WPF technologies - with VS2012, Silverlight 5 and WPF the XAML/C# code solutions look very similar: a few differences are solved mainly by generic code. I have happened to borrow and to adapt this generic code from the open sources, I have had to filter through a lot during a few last days...
>>
>>I'm now starting to apply this "light application framework" to the customer main application code base Im developing here from scratch so there will be no need to "fight" with legacy "spaghetti code"... 
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>-- Shamil
>>
>>>Monday, September  7, 2015 8:50 AM UTC from Gustav Brock <  gustav at cactus.dk >:
>>>
>>>Hi Shamil
>>>
>>>Thanks for the details. I didn't mean to imply that you were reinventing anything, just wondering why it was needed to create a framework. If it is to modularize the project, I get the idea. 
>>>
>>>It really sounds like an outstanding project. Silverlight is great as is and, of course, the client has the final word.
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>
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