[AccessD] Macro Example

<Then again, there are many who consider Access a toy and VBA in code little
more than macros.>

Not to date myself too much but I remember the days when  assembler
programmers pooh-poohed any "high level language" programmers as weenies
'cause "real men" program only in assembler. This disguised game of whose is
longer has been going on forever. IMHO whatever tool (no pun intended) fits
the job is the way to go. :-)

PS While I agree with JC's comments about macros faults, I do believe they
have there place in a RAD environment. I use them for quick prototyping. I
later go back and create real code once I am satisfied I am on the right
track.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 11:40 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Macro Example


In Word, there are Document New, Open and Close event procedure hooks that 
are not invoked by a user but by one who writes code.  As far as I know, a 
user can only avoid the code by disabling macros or placing a break in the 
code window and ending execution, and that is only possible if the document 
is not locked.  I believe code must be written or pasted into these hooks 
and cannot be recorded directly into them.  Note also that Access 97 has the

facility to convert Access macros to code, complete with error handler.  
Excel and Word also have a forms/controls interface and although the 
procedures, both functions and subroutines, are commonly called macros, this

deprecates the reality.  I have written procedures in Word and Excel that 
have updated a database.  A Word form using code with a reference to DAO or 
ADO is as capable as any unbound Access form.  Then again, there are many 
who consider Access a toy and VBA in code little more than macros.  Maybe 
when Access becomes fully object oriented and better supports collaborative 
development???  Access macros are unique in comparison with the rest of the 
Office suite.

Hen






>From: "John W. Colby" <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Macro Example
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:42:24 -0400
>
>If I may chime in...
>
>Macros in Excel CREATE visual basic code.  A macro recorder (in the olden
>days) was a recording of the keystrokes and mouse clicks that the user
>entered.  Excel still works that way, but the "macro" is no longer just the
>recorded keystrokes, but rather a VB program that represents the results of
>those mouse clicks and keystrokes.  Thus a macro in Excel isn't truly a
>macro in the original sense, but rather a true VB program that emulates the
>original intent.
>
>John W. Colby
>Colby Consulting
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
>rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:31 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Macro Example
>
>
>If I may chime in.  I think it was SusanH that posted the definition of a
>macro according to pcwebopedia that stated "In a way, macros are like 
>simple
>programs or batch files. Some applications support sophisticated macros 
>that
>even allow you to use variables and flow control structures such as loops."
>I think Microsoft has taken the sophisticated macro to an extreme with Word
>and Excel macros, nonetheless Microsoft obviously still considers them a
>macro since you get to them by going to Tools/Macros.
>
>If I were writing a book about Word or Excel, I would refer to these
>procedures as macros.  If I were writing a book about Access, I would point
>out the difference betweeen macros and modules.  If I were writing a book
>about all three, I would point out the modules in Access use the same VBA 
>as
>Word and Excel macros.  It all depends on what application you're talking
>about and that particular applications' use of the technology.
>
>just my 2 cents.
>
>RustyH



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