[AccessD] No Office 2003 ODE (Office Developer Edition)?

Charlotte Foust cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Thu Aug 7 10:08:08 CDT 2003


And free or not, I still don't see any mention of Access or any other
desktop database in there unless you extrapolate from ADO.Net somehow.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] No Office 2003 ODE (Office Developer Edition)?


Hi Marty

But is this a thought or a decision?
Sounds like those tools are not for free ...

>>>  2 and 3 are free downloads.

/gustav


> Have a look at this to see if makes sense.
> Microsoft Developer Tools Roadmap 2003-2005 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.aspx#office

> Gustav Brock wrote:

>>Sorry for being dense, but I still cannot see if/how Visual Studio 
>>fits into the picture of Access development.
>>
>>I'm aware that Visual Studio might bring some (Internet) features to 
>>Access development, but what is important is to distinguish between 
>>offers/features and needs. And if at all possible I do not want an IIS

>>to run on my trusted development machine; if it _is_ needed I wish it 
>>to run on a server.
>>
>>By the way, what is "Office 2003 Windows Update CD"?
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>
>>>This hasn't been set in stone yet by Microsoft. Maybe they are 
>>>waiting
>>>for a marketing decision.
>>
>>> 1. Is VS Net 2003
>>>  2 and 3 are free downloads.
>>>    
>>
>>>Who knows they may switch to an MSI install, which would require 2 
>>>CD's
>>>much like SageKeys
>>>Office XP MSI wizard.
>>>    
>>
>>>The Microsoft Installer may require two CD's to be shipped, the 
>>>Access
>>>2003 Application CD created by the Packaging Wizard and the Office
2003 
>>>Windows Update CD. When the user inserts the Application CD, they are

>>>prompted to load the Update CD first which loads the required 
>>>preconditioning components onto the target PC.
>>>    
>>
>>> By the way IIS must be installed prior to loading VS Net, if you 
>>>plan
>>>to use any of its features.
>>>You can still use things like Net WinForms without IIS but not Web 
>>>Forms. If you install IIS after VS Net you can only use internal Web 
>>>Forms <local host>. To fix you have to do a  clear and reinstall in 
>>>correct order, usually takes a couple of hours.
>>>    
>>>>I'm slightly confused ...
>>>>
>>>>Does this mean you'll have to buy all this - in addition to Office 
>>>>2003 Pro, of course - just to create an Access 2003 runtime:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Visual Studio
>>>> 2. Visual Studio Tools for the Microsoft Office System
>>>> 3. Access 2003 Developer Extensions
>>>>
>>>>as well as to soil your dearly beloved workstation with IIS?
>>>>
>>>>And which version of Visual Studio? I don't have it as I've never 
>>>>had a need for it.
>>>>
>>>>/gustav
>>>>
>>>>>Looks like below doesn't contain the Access deployment features 
>>>>>Access 2003 Developer Extensions Overview
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/editions/accessdav.asp
>>>>>
>>>>>from recent posting newsgroup  
>>>>>microsoft.public.vsnet.vstools.office
>>>>
>>>>>Subject:  Re: Access 2003 Developer Extensions
>>>>>From:  "Peter Torr \(MS\)" <ptorr at microsoft.com> Sent:  7/16/2003
>>>>>10:19:41 AM
>>>>>"Urs Stettler" <stettler at e-wideweb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:090401c34b7f$926f8de0$a401280a at phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>>According to the product description of the VS tools for Office, 
>>>>>>Access 2003 Developer Extensions are supposed to be part of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, I purchased the Office 03 beta, purchased VS 03 just to be 
>>>>>>able to use Access depoloyment features. Having installed the VS 
>>>>>>tools, I can't find any packaging wizard or any link in Access 03 
>>>>>>to start the packaging process. Am I missing something?
>>>>>>          
>>>>>The Access Developer Extensions will be in the final retail 
>>>>>product, which has not shipped yet. The beta release of Visual 
>>>>>Studio Tools for Office just contains the Word and Excel managed 
>>>>>code projects.

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