[AccessD] No Office 2003 ODE (Office Developer Edition)?

Charlotte Foust cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Thu Aug 7 13:30:19 CDT 2003


Thanks.  It was buried in a ton of chaff and I missed it.  So what
happens if you already have Visual Studio .Net 2003 and then get Visual
Studio Tools for Office?  Does it just not install the VB.Net standard
edition?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] No Office 2003 ODE (Office Developer Edition)?


<SNIP>

Built for use with Visual Studio .NET 2003, Visual Studio Tools for
Office will be available shortly after Microsoft Office 2003 is released
in late summer 2003. Visual Studio Tools for Office will also contain
the Microsoft Access 2003 Developer Extensions (including the
royalty-free Access runtime and additional developer tools), Visual
Basic .NET Standard Edition and SQL Server 2000 Developer Edition.

<SNIP>

there

-Francisco
http://rcm.netfirms.com

On Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:08 AM [GMT-8],
Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:

: And free or not, I still don't see any mention of Access or any other
: desktop database in there unless you extrapolate from ADO.Net somehow.
:
: Charlotte Foust
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:09 PM
: To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
: Subject: Re: [AccessD] No Office 2003 ODE (Office Developer Edition)?
:
:
: Hi Marty
:
: But is this a thought or a decision?
: Sounds like those tools are not for free ...
:
::::  2 and 3 are free downloads.
:
: /gustav
:
:
:: Have a look at this to see if makes sense.
:: Microsoft Developer Tools Roadmap 2003-2005
:: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.aspx#office
:
:: Gustav Brock wrote:
:
::: Sorry for being dense, but I still cannot see if/how Visual Studio
::: fits into the picture of Access development.
:::
::: I'm aware that Visual Studio might bring some (Internet) features to
::: Access development, but what is important is to distinguish between
::: offers/features and needs. And if at all possible I do not want an
::: IIS
:
::: to run on my trusted development machine; if it _is_ needed I wish
::: it to run on a server.
:::
::: By the way, what is "Office 2003 Windows Update CD"?
:::
::: /gustav
:::
:::
:::: This hasn't been set in stone yet by Microsoft. Maybe they are
:::: waiting
:::: for a marketing decision.
:::
:::: 1. Is VS Net 2003
::::  2 and 3 are free downloads.
::::
:::
:::: Who knows they may switch to an MSI install, which would require 2
:::: CD's
:::: much like SageKeys
:::: Office XP MSI wizard.
::::
:::
:::: The Microsoft Installer may require two CD's to be shipped, the
:::: Access
:::: 2003 Application CD created by the Packaging Wizard and the Office
:::: 2003 Windows Update CD. When the user inserts the Application CD,
:::: they are
:
:::: prompted to load the Update CD first which loads the required
:::: preconditioning components onto the target PC.
::::
:::
:::: By the way IIS must be installed prior to loading VS Net, if you
:::: plan
:::: to use any of its features.
:::: You can still use things like Net WinForms without IIS but not Web
:::: Forms. If you install IIS after VS Net you can only use internal
:::: Web Forms <local host>. To fix you have to do a  clear and
:::: reinstall in correct order, usually takes a couple of hours.
::::
::::: I'm slightly confused ...
:::::
::::: Does this mean you'll have to buy all this - in addition to Office
::::: 2003 Pro, of course - just to create an Access 2003 runtime:
:::::
::::: 1. Visual Studio
::::: 2. Visual Studio Tools for the Microsoft Office System
::::: 3. Access 2003 Developer Extensions
:::::
::::: as well as to soil your dearly beloved workstation with IIS?
:::::
::::: And which version of Visual Studio? I don't have it as I've never
::::: had a need for it.
:::::
::::: /gustav
:::::
:::::: Looks like below doesn't contain the Access deployment features
:::::: Access 2003 Developer Extensions Overview
::::::
:::::: http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/editions/accessdav.asp
::::::
:::::: from recent posting newsgroup
:::::: microsoft.public.vsnet.vstools.office
:::::
:::::: Subject:  Re: Access 2003 Developer Extensions
:::::: From:  "Peter Torr \(MS\)" <ptorr at microsoft.com> Sent:  7/16/2003
:::::: 10:19:41 AM
:::::: "Urs Stettler" <stettler at e-wideweb.com> wrote in message
:::::: news:090401c34b7f$926f8de0$a401280a at phx.gbl...
::::::
::::::: According to the product description of the VS tools for Office,
::::::: Access 2003 Developer Extensions are supposed to be part of it.
:::::::
::::::: Well, I purchased the Office 03 beta, purchased VS 03 just to be
::::::: able to use Access depoloyment features. Having installed the VS
::::::: tools, I can't find any packaging wizard or any link in Access
::::::: 03 to start the packaging process. Am I missing something?
:::::::
:::::: The Access Developer Extensions will be in the final retail
:::::: product, which has not shipped yet. The beta release of Visual
:::::: Studio Tools for Office just contains the Word and Excel managed
:::::: code projects.
:
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