William Hindman
wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Thu Dec 4 17:24:16 CST 2003
...oh I quite agree ...but being an independent, I'm realistic about the
results of publicly pummeling even the lowest class of user ...personally,
I'd rather pay JC to take him/her for a plane ride ...Colbyizing a user is a
much more satisfying ...and permanent ...solution :)))
...had one just today that I would have gladly bought TWO tickets for :)
William Hindman
Government is not reason, government is not persuasion,
government is force. It is a dangerous servant." G. Washington
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> Ah, but I'm on the developers side. If only we could get a better class
> of users ... <VBG>
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:06 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
>
>
> ...pummel the developer ...scold the user ...makes for better client
> relations :)
>
> William Hindman
> Government is not reason, government is not persuasion, government is
> force. It is a dangerous servant." G. Washington
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
>
>
> > Does that option show up in the forms' menubar? I don't ever recall
> > seeing it there, and users should NOT be working directly in tables.
> > If they are, they should be pummeled soundly until they break the
> > habit. And the developer should be scolded for enabling that behavior.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: StaRKeY [mailto:starkey at wanadoo.nl]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:04 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > check this: in Access 2000, pick any existing table in a database,
> > open the table and add a new record. Move the cursor to a new or other
>
> > record and have a look at the menubar 'Edit' -> 'Undo Saved Record
> > (Ctrl-Z)'. Despite you saved the new record this option still enables
> > you to undo the addition. I posted a referral to Access help about
> > this feature earlier, that information should enable one to figure out
>
> > a solution under the given circumstances.
> >
> > I imagine Erwin could also build a copy of the existing menubar he
> > uses without this 'Undo' button and have the Ctrl-Z turn into a beep
> > using the autokeys macro.
> >
> > Ohwell, almost friday here = almost weekend!:-)
> >
> > Have a nice dinner,
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: donderdag 4 december 2003 22:26
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> >
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> > I'm not sure what you are referring to. Dirty is a property of a
> > form. It is set when the record is first modified and cleared when the
>
> > save occurs. If you set it false in code, it saves the record.
> >
> > Of all that I am sure because I use it.
> >
> > Now what exactly is "Undo saved record"? I know of no such thing in
> > Access.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of StaRKeY
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:02 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> >
> >
> > Have you checked this John?:-)
> >
> > I ask because I played with a table, adding a new record, hop onto
> > another old/new record and the undo saved record feature still worked.
>
> > Isn't dirty true if the record isn't saved yet?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eric Starkenburg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: donderdag 4 december 2003 21:46
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> >
> >
> > Setting dirty to false saves the record so there would definitely be
> > no undo available after that!
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>
> > - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:38 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> >
> >
> > What happens if you set dirty to false? Then wouldn't the undo fail
> > ('undo not available at this time' or some such error which you could
> > trap)?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erwin Craps - IT Helps" <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:58 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> >
> >
> > > I'm busy testing some stuff, like using the me.recordset and
> > > edit/update the fields instead of the controls on a form.
> > >
> > > I also looked at the undo event of the form, but that doesn't work
> > > neither...
> > >
> > > What I really would like to have is some kind of "Clear the undo
> > > cache" function.
> > >
> > > I'll let you know what.
> > > Closing form and opening again is not an option for me.
> > >
> > > Erwin
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Ervin Brindza
> > > Verzonden: donderdag 4 december 2003 13:35
> > > Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "StaRKeY" <starkey at wanadoo.nl>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: 04 December, 2003 12:42 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disable undo function from VBA.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this imply that you close and
>
> > > > open
> > > the
> > > > form every time a new value in a record is changed?:-)
> > > >
> > > Erwin wrote:
> > > "When printing I programaticaly give the invoice a number and save
> > > the
> >
> > > record." So, I think to close the form, only in the OnClick event of
>
> > > a
> >
> > > command button. And that have to be rarely... And after the printing
>
> > > I
> >
> > > suppose that the invoice is finished so the code can be even
> > > simpler: DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSave DoCmd.Close
> > >
> > > but Erwin will decide :)
> > > Ervin
> > >
> > >
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