[AccessD] A2K: Runtime version of 2003 (Crap)

Darren DICK d.dick at uws.edu.au
Sun Dec 7 17:21:37 CST 2003


Thanks Francisco

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Runtime version of 2003 (Crap)


> I have this little function that uses BLAT to email, this is what I've been using so I don't meet up with the problematic issues
of SPx or SRx for Office...
>
> It's available at the following URL...
> http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/OtherLibraries.asp#Tapia,Francsico
>
> -- 
> -Francisco
>
>
> John W. Colby wrote:
>
> >If you truly think that SP3 has anything at ALL to do with enhancing
> >security (other than Microsoft's) you are delusional.  SP3 does nothing to
> >prevent a virus from running on your machine.  It does nothing to prevent
> >Access from using VBA to form a virus and scramble the user's data, or watch
> >for passwords and credit card numbers and email them out to an address NOT
> >in the address book.
> >
> >On the other hand, it absolutely does trash an application that my client
> >paid me to write for them.  It prevents using Outlook automation to send
> >mail in many instances.
> >
> >IOW, it does NOTHING AT all to enhance the security of my client, while
> >causing a perfectly valid application to stop working.
> >
> >I mean a class action lawsuit for doing nothing to enhance security while
> >screwing up valid applications, trashing code modules then hiding the fact
> >that they were causing these problems, denying that anything was wrong, and
> >causing me to waste a TON of time trying to figure out why my applications
> >were corrupting form modules, then having the BALLS to force me to come
> >begging them to give me a fix to the problem that they already had and
> >weren't telling anyone they had.
> >
> >I mean THAT kind of class action lawsuit.
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> >Foust
> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:19 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Runtime version of 2003 (Crap)
> >
> >
> >You mean as opposed to a class action lawsuit for not providing adequate
> >security? <g>
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:10 AM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Runtime version of 2003 (Crap)
> >
> >
> >I'm simply pointing out that installing SP3 is not a panacea for the
> >problem you are discussing.  Many developers don't use Outlook
> >automation so they don't care.  If they DO use it however, that portion
> >of their app is trashed just by updating to SP3.
> >
> >I personally have lost an estimated 60 hours to this problem over the
> >last few years.  I'd LOVE to participate in a class action lawsuit to
> >recover my lost wages.
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> >Foust
> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:58 AM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Runtime version of 2003 (Crap)
> >
> >
> >That's an automation problem, John.  There are workarounds (like
> >Redemption or using SMTP mail) and it isn't a fair comparison anyhow.
> >Installing SR3 will *break* the apps by popping up the security dialogs
> >when you try to send mail automatically, but it won't destroy them.  NOT
> >installing SR3 when you have 2002 or 2003 apps also installed *can*
> >destroy a 2000 Access database.
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:50 AM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Runtime version of 2003 (Crap)
> >
> >
> >Installing SP3 will also toast any apps which try to use Outlook to send
> >mail using the address book.
> >
> >8-(
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> >Foust
> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:37 AM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Runtime version of 2003 (Crap)
> >
> >
> >As Mike Groh's editorial, referenced in your other post, indicates, you
> >appear to have run afoul of the conflict between the O2k version of the
> >vbe6.dll and the version installed with any MS 2002 app.  It apparently
> >also happens if you install a 2003 app, which makes sense.  The cure is
> >to patch the 2000 MSAccess.exe, and it always annoyed me that being
> >broken by a later version was considered a bug in *2000*!!  Installing
> >SR-3 should cure the bug, but it won't recover any database that got
> >toasted by the problem.
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:07 PM
> >To: AccessD List
> >Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Runtime version of 2003 (Crap)
> >
> >
> >Hello all
> >I recently installed the runtime version of Access 2003.
> >
> >This piece of crap has taken over and now all my access apps open in a
> >2003 shell. I keep getting error messages about the potential damage the
> >code within the dB can cause and am prompted each time I open a dB if I
> >wish to continue or cancel
> >
> >I have tried unsuccessfully to remove Access 2003 Runtime from Control
> >Panel. at least on 4 occasions. I have re-installed Office and Access
> >2000 - Still no joy. So I deleted the folder (though not all files.
> >'Cause Widoze had ' em opened I presume)
> >
> >On top of all that I getting very strange errors each time I open a db
> >or try to view the code for an even or control. Error message as
> >follows. (This message would appear even before I deleted the folder -
> >yes I have re-booted many times)
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Microsoft Visual Basic (Msgbox Caption)
> >Error Accessing File. Network Connection May have been lost
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Anyone seen this or better still anyone got a solution?
> >
> >Many thanks in advance
> >
> >Darren
> >
> >
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