[AccessD] POLL: Access Security

Susan Harkins ssharkins at bellsouth.net
Tue Dec 23 07:31:37 CST 2003


I broke the white paper down and wrote a really basic intro to the subject.
It isn't something you'd want to tackle in print without a lot of experience
with it.

Susan H.


> ...no Jim ...having done that type of writing successfully in a highly
> competitive environment, I'm fully appreciative of the time, effort, and
> skill it requires to make a difficult technical subject both readable and
> useful ...its too bad the authors of the MS Access security white papers
> didn't, imnsho, even try ...back to you :)
>
> William Hindman
> There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have
>  the courage to do what we know is morally right." --Ronald Reagan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:06 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security
>
>
> > William,
> >
> >   I think you vastly underestimate the time and energy that goes into
> > something like that.  But hey, it's sounds like you volunteered<g>.  I'm
> not
> > implying your 5 years old, but that if it really is that easy, put your
> > money where your mouth is.
> >
> >   I'm waiting for my copy.
> >
> > Jim Dettman
> > President,
> > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
> > (315) 699-3443
> > jimdettman at earthlink.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
> > Hindman
> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:47 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security
> >
> >
> > "Anyone up for writing a better one?" Drew
> >
> > ...find a five year old that can scribble ...presto! ...a "better" one
:)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have
> >  the courage to do what we know is morally right." --Ronald Reagan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Drew Wutka" <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:10 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security
> >
> >
> > > What was the purpose of the polling?  Was it to give you an idea of
how
> > > useful the LWS stuff you are working on will be?
> > >
> > > Just curious.
> > >
> > > Personally, the 'white paper' on Access user level security is a
> complete
> > > pain to try to understand.  Anyone up for writing a better one? <grin>
> > >
> > > Drew
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:41 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security
> > >
> > >
> > > Well I totaled up the scores today and of the ~50 people that replied
we
> > > average about a 3.4.  My questions of course are:
> > >
> > > 1) If you were VERY good would you not respond?  I'm guessing that
most
> > > would respond.
> > > 2) If you were clueless would you not respond?  I'm guessing many
> wouldn't
> > > respond.
> > >
> > > Thus I'm guessing that the true average of all our members is less
than
> > 3.4
> > > rather than more than 3.4.  Even if we really do average 3.4, this
> > indicates
> > > that most of us (myself included) don't use Access' built in security,
> or
> > > don't do so often.
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:00 PM
> > > To: AccessD
> > > Subject: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd like to take a poll regarding your knowledge of Access' built-in
> > > security. By security I do NOT mean the database properties, rather
> using
> > > workgroups / users to secure forms, tables, queries etc.
> > >
> > > Anyone interested in participating please choose one of the following:
> > >
> > > 1) I am an Access security guru.  I can quickly and easily lock a
> database
> > > down so tight I can't even get back in.  No help / books needed.
> > > 2) I am fluent with Access security.  I can get the job done but it
> > > definitely takes a few hours.  I probably won't need the help / books.
> > > 3) I have done Access Security on at least one real paying project.  I
> > would
> > > need help / books to do it again.
> > > 4) I have heard about Access Security, read about it, managed to shoot
a
> > toe
> > > off, maybe played around with it, but I am confident I could get the
job
> > > done.  Books / help definitly needed.
> > > 5) Access has built in security?  What is this and where would I go to
> > learn
> > > it?  Why haven't I ever seen these books / help?
> > >
> > > If you would please just select a number and reply I would appreciate
> it.
> > >
> > > As for myself, I must admit I rate a solid 4.  No client has ever been
> > > willing to pay for it and I have always had other things to learn / do
> so
> > I
> > > just never did it (for real).
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.colbyconsulting.com
> > >
> > >
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