William Hindman
wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Tue Dec 23 08:20:11 CST 2003
...ah Jim ...take it back to OT where I can thrash you properly :) William Hindman There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right." --Ronald Reagan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > William, > > <<even try ...back to you :)>> > > That's what I figured. When it comes to the brass tacks, you always step > around. > > Jim Dettman > President, > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > (315) 699-3443 > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William > Hindman > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:20 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > ...no Jim ...having done that type of writing successfully in a highly > competitive environment, I'm fully appreciative of the time, effort, and > skill it requires to make a difficult technical subject both readable and > useful ...its too bad the authors of the MS Access security white papers > didn't, imnsho, even try ...back to you :) > > William Hindman > There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have > the courage to do what we know is morally right." --Ronald Reagan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:06 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > > William, > > > > I think you vastly underestimate the time and energy that goes into > > something like that. But hey, it's sounds like you volunteered<g>. I'm > not > > implying your 5 years old, but that if it really is that easy, put your > > money where your mouth is. > > > > I'm waiting for my copy. > > > > Jim Dettman > > President, > > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > > (315) 699-3443 > > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William > > Hindman > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:47 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > > > > "Anyone up for writing a better one?" Drew > > > > ...find a five year old that can scribble ...presto! ...a "better" one :) > > > > William Hindman > > There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have > > the courage to do what we know is morally right." --Ronald Reagan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Drew Wutka" <DWUTKA at marlow.com> > > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:10 PM > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > > > > > What was the purpose of the polling? Was it to give you an idea of how > > > useful the LWS stuff you are working on will be? > > > > > > Just curious. > > > > > > Personally, the 'white paper' on Access user level security is a > complete > > > pain to try to understand. Anyone up for writing a better one? <grin> > > > > > > Drew > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:41 PM > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > > > > > > > Well I totaled up the scores today and of the ~50 people that replied we > > > average about a 3.4. My questions of course are: > > > > > > 1) If you were VERY good would you not respond? I'm guessing that most > > > would respond. > > > 2) If you were clueless would you not respond? I'm guessing many > wouldn't > > > respond. > > > > > > Thus I'm guessing that the true average of all our members is less than > > 3.4 > > > rather than more than 3.4. Even if we really do average 3.4, this > > indicates > > > that most of us (myself included) don't use Access' built in security, > or > > > don't do so often. > > > > > > John W. Colby > > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:00 PM > > > To: AccessD > > > Subject: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > > > > > > > I'd like to take a poll regarding your knowledge of Access' built-in > > > security. By security I do NOT mean the database properties, rather > using > > > workgroups / users to secure forms, tables, queries etc. > > > > > > Anyone interested in participating please choose one of the following: > > > > > > 1) I am an Access security guru. I can quickly and easily lock a > database > > > down so tight I can't even get back in. No help / books needed. > > > 2) I am fluent with Access security. I can get the job done but it > > > definitely takes a few hours. I probably won't need the help / books. > > > 3) I have done Access Security on at least one real paying project. I > > would > > > need help / books to do it again. > > > 4) I have heard about Access Security, read about it, managed to shoot a > > toe > > > off, maybe played around with it, but I am confident I could get the job > > > done. Books / help definitly needed. > > > 5) Access has built in security? What is this and where would I go to > > learn > > > it? Why haven't I ever seen these books / help? > > > > > > If you would please just select a number and reply I would appreciate > it. > > > > > > As for myself, I must admit I rate a solid 4. No client has ever been > > > willing to pay for it and I have always had other things to learn / do > so > > I > > > just never did it (for real). > > > > > > John W. 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