[AccessD] .net

Shamil Salakhetdinov shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Tue Feb 4 11:46:00 CST 2003


> And will we get true OO with inheritance etc?  That would make it all
> worthwhile.
Yes, we will get it within VB.NET and C# and J# and other OO
languages/development tools supporting .NET framework like DELPHI etc.
IMO there will be never true inheritance within VBA - what for? when there
is already VB.NET and C#?

> And will it break all my existing apps that use the built in VBA?  That
> would make it a disaster.
No, I don't think it will break all(any) of your existing apps "one dark
day" - they promise to support VBA from within VS.NET IDE  - I guess VBA
will become dead(frozen) language like Latin but they will support
(translate it into executables) for a while but then inevitably but
gradually(within several years) we will be forced to move to VB.NET using
the feature of (almost) automatic conversion of VBA code to VB.NET code or
even to C#... Is that good or bad? - good because this promise to not let us
to be idle using legacy VBA code - we will have a lot of work of conversion
VBA->VB.NET... It's not that good for customers because this additiional
work means additional spendings for them...

May it happen they will support VBA forever from within VS.NET IDE? - it
seems to be possible scenario too - after all .NET framework is a huge set
of classes and I don't see any problems (except time and money needed for
developement) to make them available in VBA like(/a' la)  COM objects - in
fact even now it's possible to write wrapper/helper VB.NET/C# dlls available
in VBA and exposing custom or .NET classes' interfaces  if needed (an they
will look similar to COM objects with late(IDispatch) or late/early (dual)
program interfaces). Maybe something like that exists already but I didn't
see it yet - anybody?...

Again, these are guesses only, nothing more...

Shamil

----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] .net


> And will we get true OO with inheritance etc?  That would make it all
> worthwhile.
>
> And will it break all my existing apps that use the built in VBA?  That
> would make it a disaster.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Shamil
> Salakhetdinov
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:09 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] .net
>
>
> AFAIU MS Access/Word/Excel VBA programming from within MS
Access/Word/Excel
> IDEs seems to be already marked as "must die" at MS:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.asp
>
> This should happen with arrival of .NET Framework 2.0 and VS.NET for Yukon
> in 2004 and Office12 or later?...
>
> <<<
> Office programmability. The tools and components within Microsoft Office®
> are widely used as a foundation for smart client application development,
> and "Visual Studio for Yukon" will seek to unify the programming
experience
> between Visual Studio .NET and Office. "Visual Studio for Yukon" will
> deliver support in the Visual Studio IDE for Office development, while
> simultaneously continuing support for the popular VBA development
approach.
> With "Visual Studio for Yukon" the full breadth of Microsoft Office will
be
> available for the first time to developers using Visual Studio .NET.
> >>>
>
> IMO it looks like they at MS plan to remove ALT+F11(VBA programming
support)
> from MS Access/Word/Excel IDEs completely moving it to VS .NET. Are these
> good or bad news? IMO their approach to unify .NET and VBA progamming
> under/within VS.NET is a right step forward. And with arrival of such
> architecure MS Word/MS Excel macro viruses' problem will be solved
> automagically...
>
> Of course I can be (completely) wrong with my guessing based on the
roadmap
> info referred above.
> We will live, we will see...
>
> Shamil
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Reid" <mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] .net
>
>
> > I think the true future of Access will not be really known
> > until Access 12 is available. I do know JET and DAO are
> > dead today. No further development of either AFAIK. Could
> > all change but we have to wait and see.
> >
> > Lot of confusion it would appear
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > Martin WP Reid
> > Information Services
> > Queens University Belfast
> >
> > Tel: (02890) 273750
> >
> >
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