Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for ColbyConsulting

John W. Colby jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Feb 20 12:24:00 CST 2003


That's not my point.  Of course we want to be asked.  We also want to have
the intelligence to make the distinction between gator and a flash control.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:14 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: RE: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for
ColbyConsulting


>On the other hand if it wasn't an exe (possible source of a virus) the
browser would just download the damned thing and you wouldn't >even know it
was happening.  

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
This is exactly what the spyware manufacturers want!  I have lost count of
the number of times IE has asked me if I want to install Gator!  I thank my
lucky stars that my browser is paranoid enough to at least ask me before
screwing up my system.  Now a "Don't ask me again" feature, that would be
nice...


>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
> Sent:	Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:48 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	RE: RE: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for
> ColbyConsulting
> 
> Martin,
> 
> >You need the flash plug in. Me I just hit the back button when I get a
> web site like that.
> 
> You know I can appreciate that.  On the other hand if it wasn't an exe
> (possible source of a virus) the browser would just download the damned
> thing and you wouldn't even know it was happening.  I can see avoiding
> downloading something from some web site you have never heard of, but this
> is common stuff, from the maker of that common stuff.
> 
> I wanted to make my site more professional looking.  I got dreamweaver,
> and in a very short time (hours) got it looking a million times better, as
> anyone who has seen my old site will attest to.  I am not a web designer,
> don't want to be a web designer, don't have the time to be a web designer,
> and shouldn't HAVE TO BE a web designer to get an EXTREMELY simple site
> looking good.  I took what I had, replaced the background with a more
> pleasant design, replaced the links with flash images and in a matter of
> HOURS got a replacement that is quite an improvement.
> 
> Now, in order to make some off the wall browser stop doing strange crap to
> the buttons, I have to spend another two hours downloading all kinds of
> browsers I will never use, only to discover it is a bug in that browser to
> begin with.  Then I get "you shouldn't use frames", "I just hit the back
> button if it needs flash", "You should design two entirely different sites
> for different resolutions", "just make everything a % of the width"... oh,
> and let's not forget the "just go design 30 different graphics to
> represent your buttons and use rollover"...
> 
> HELLO OUT THERE...  IS THERE INTELLIGENT LIFE ON EARTH???
> 
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:32 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for
> ColbyConsulting
> 
> 
> Thats the problem usign Flash buttons as opposed to 
> standard graphic files. You need the flash plug in. Me I 
> just hit the back button when I get a web site like that.
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:08:27 -0500 Bryan Carbonnell 
> <Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca> wrote:
> 
> > IE uses ActiveX controls for plugins.
> > 
> > Most other browsers use Plug-Ins, which are usually separate downloads,
> half the time requiring a restart of the browser.
> > 
> > That's probably why.
> > 
> > Bryan Carbonnell
> > bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca
> > 
> > >>> jcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-Feb-03 10:59:56 AM >>>
> > Well, here's a new one.  I have been viewing my site this whole time.
> > Installed Mozilla and it informed my I had to download the flash widget
> > (button).  Why?  It had to be installed for IE to run.
> > 
> > 
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> Martin WP Reid
> Information Services
> Queens University Belfast
> 
> Tel: (02890) 273750
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