Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for ColbyConsul ting

Jim Lawrence (AccessD) accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Feb 20 18:06:01 CST 2003


Hi Brett:

Just a comment...I took a ten month course on web commerce, last year and a
lot of design improvements are implemented using statistics to decide which
standards are embraced and which standards are abandoned. The school
purchased a full set of stats from an online web statistical gathering site.
(if anyone wants I will track down the URL but be warned it costs.)

The decisions whether a particular layout or technology was to be utilized
depended a lot on its percentage of market penetration coupled with it rate
of disappearance. Student site were marked on their adoption of new feature
but only if it did not adversely a too large percentage of the market.

Example:
1. Greater than 95% or the market uses 17 inch (or greater) monitors so most
web sites use 600 x 800 resolution.
2. Less than 3% of the viewing market can not view a full colour palette so
the 'web-safe' colour concept is a non issue.
3. Less than 5% of the market uses NS browsers that are older than version
6.
4. Flash has a 96% penetration of the web users.
and so on...

A developer has to weight the cost of supporting a shrinking fringe group
and traditionally, on smaller sites, a client is reluctant to pay for fifty
percent of their cost for less than 5% of their viewing audience.

It is not fair but that is the way it is

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:09 AM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for
ColbyConsul ting


I've been reading this thread with great interest.  I was thinking about
investing in Dreamweaver, but it seems to create Flash-centric sites.  I
guess this would make sense since Macromedia owns the technology.  For other
Dreamweaver users out there: Does it offer viable alternatives to using
Flash (e.g. animated GIFs)?


>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:00 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	RE: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for
> ColbyConsulting
>
> Well, here's a new one.  I have been viewing my site this whole time.
> Installed Mozilla and it informed my I had to download the flash widget
> (button).  Why?  It had to be installed for IE to run.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Seth Galitzer
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:47 AM
> To: accessd
> Subject: Re: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for
> ColbyConsulting
>
>
> John,
>
> you can have any number of browsers on your system, but each one will
> try to "take over" the association of .htm files when you launch it.  I
> believe you can disable this behavior in many of them, but each one is
> different.  As for browsers, here are a couple of the major players:
>
> Mozilla (NS7 is based on this, so if it looks good here, it will look
> good on NS7 as well; so is the Phoenix browser)
> http://www.mozilla.org/
>
> Opera (shareware, but fully functional)
> http://www.opera.com/
>
> Netscape (4.x, no longer distributed, but still widely used; VERY
> different fron NS7)
> http://wp.netscape.com/download/archive/client_archive47x.html
>
> There are a raft of other alternative browsers here:
> http://download.com.com/3150-2356-0.html?tag=dir
>
> but the three I mentioned above are probably the most common
>
> Download away...
>
> Seth
>
> On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 09:19, John W. Colby wrote:
> > Does anyone know if Netscape and IE will now co-exist.  In the olden
> days
> > you could trash a computer by trying to install both at the same time.
> > Also, could someone point me to some other browsers I can download (for
> free
> > - no money to do this).
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > Colby Consulting
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
>
> --
> Seth Galitzer			sgsax at ksu.edu
> Computing Specialist		http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax
> Dept. of Plant Pathology
> Kansas State University
>
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