Jim Dettman
jimdettman at earthlink.net
Sat Feb 22 13:39:00 CST 2003
John, <<I just want to start catching up on what's going on out there. The web is here, high speed access is here (at least for much of the US population) and companies are starting to use lots of different technologies. I just feel like I'm being left behind.>> I'm at the same point. Years ago I decided to ignore the web and in hind sight, that was a foolish move. I've pretty much ignored SQL Server as well, and I am *really* going to start paying for that shortly. As soon as I get past my current VFP hurdles, I plan to start attacking that and some of the new stuff like .NET. <<Plus, it could be fun to play with.>> Definitely right there. <<The sales pitch is that all this stuff makes programming easier, less error prone and able to tie in more easily with other technologies. If all that's true, I should be back tomorrow with a 3 tiered port of a client's app, ready to demo my skills. <VBG> >> "what, you can't do that already?" (with incredulous look on his face). According to many software vendors, you'd think we could generate this stuff blind folded!<g> Have fun! Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:49 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Now what do I do with this thing? >I've had the .Net stuff for well over a year (I have a MSDN Universal Subscription), but it really does nothing for me, so I've been ignoring it for the most part. Jim, I can sure appreciate that. I have been ignoring all the stuff going by for te last few years as well. Access is a great little autonomous world that it is very easy to get so comfortable with that you don't want to do anything else. I just want to start catching up on what's going on out there. The web is here, high speed access is here (at least for much of the US population) and companies are starting to use lots of different technologies. I just feel like I'm being left behind. Plus, it could be fun to play with. I have SQL Server installed on my server, I can upsize up a couple of client's data and have plenty of data to play with. Learn how to do what I do inside of Access from another environment entirely. Not to mention the fact that I need work. When I look in the job ads, Access is usually down about the 10th skill listed. Its kinda embarrassing to go to an interview and have to say, "Nope I don't know that. Nope, don't know that either. Uhh... nope, not that either. But I know Access REAL well." It remains to be seen where I get with this. We definitely are NOT in Kansas any more! But I did 'C' programming back when, Turbo Pascal, Basic, played with Fortran and Prolog, DBase and Paradox. I CAN do this! The sales pitch is that all this stuff makes programming easier, less error prone and able to tie in more easily with other technologies. If all that's true, I should be back tomorrow with a 3 tiered port of a client's app, ready to demo my skills. <VBG> John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:21 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Now what do I do with this thing? John, <<I feel very discombobulated in this environment. It appears that it is designed to allow navigation through a varied set of tools, but I was kind of expecting to press a button somewhere and be transported on my magic carpet to something resembling the VB development environment. I haven't found that button yet!>> Your not going to find it. .Net is a framework that encapsulates all the languages you mentioned. It provides base services to everything. If you thought ADO/DAO and Office object models were complex, you have not see nutt'n yet. Pick your favorite language and work with it. They all end up in the same place: the CLR (Common Language Runtime). I've had the .Net stuff for well over a year (I have a MSDN Universal Subscription), but it really does nothing for me, so I've been ignoring it for the most part. Probably another big mistake I'm making and one I'll regret in a few years, but I'm sure at least it won't be the last<g>. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:17 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Now what do I do with this thing? OK, so now that I have this fancy Visual Studio.net (which comes with no book of course) - what do I do with it? I have: Visual Basic .net Visual C# .net Visual C++ .net Visual J# .net and Crystal Reports .net. The .net framework SDK The Windows application compatibility toolkit What the &^%$ is this .net thing they are so proud of? What the (*&%* is the # thing they are so proud of? How do I write a program? Hello world? ;-) I feel very discombobulated in this environment. It appears that it is designed to allow navigation through a varied set of tools, but I was kind of expecting to press a button somewhere and be transported on my magic carpet to something resembling the VB development environment. I haven't found that button yet! If anyone out there is using this thing and wants to discuss it with other (even us neophytes) please raise your hand. John W. 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