Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sun Jun 1 07:34:28 CDT 2003
I don't have a real 'trick' per se. I just brute force it I guess. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 5/31/03 7:50 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Distribution - a bit OT Hi Guys: The one big problem I have always had converting Access to VB is the Access automated SubForm interface that is just great with Invoicing systems. With VB I have found of no easy way to duplicate these feature other than with brute force programming or getting the client to buy a TB Grid component for their site. I have some great interfaces, created, using a combination of DBgrid/Flexgrids, arrays and lots of programming. Do you have a better way or is there something I have been over-looking all these years? Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 3:56 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Distribution - a bit OT Paul, the problem you ran into was something that should occur at the beginning of a job proposal. If they don't want Access, you have two options. Sell it to them. That can be pretty difficult, but it's not necessarily impossible. Explain the benefits, etc. Two, build it in something else. Personally, I develop a lot of stuff in VB just as fast as I would in Access, or at least close. The big clash with Access is solved with VB. Installing a runtime version of Access 97 will definitely clash with a previous installation of Access 2k or XP, or any future version. That gives your Access applications a smudge, a special consideration smudge. Since bound applications can be built extremely fast in Access, the development expense should outway that issue. VB does not have the compatibility issue. Installing VB 5.0 applications on a machine that VB 6 applications have no issue, same with .Net. So you can install it and walk away. The only issue you may have is if a future OS does not support VB applications...but that is a long time away. VB can use .mdb's through ADO or DAO, which install on their own. Newer ADO/DAO versions can use previous .mdb versions, so that isn't an issue either. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Paul Black To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 5/31/03 2:59 PM Subject: [AccessD] Distribution - a bit OT Hi I submitted a proposal to a client this week for a custom application. Their nose is a bit bent out of shape because they feel they should be able to slap a CD in the drive click the install button and the app will install in a nice self-contained thing-a-ma-bob (that is what they said). Why do we have to have MS Access installed? You don't, I said, I can supply a runtime version. Why do we have to worry about what version of MS Access is installed already? We did not ask for MS Access, we asked for a custom computer application. Why do we have to worry about installing a runtime version on a machine with Access already on it and causing all kinds of problems (paraphrased)? Plain and simple they want an app that is a DBS management system but they want something that is completely autonomous. What do I do? What would you do? I may have already lost this deal but need to prepare for the next time this happens. Do I offer a solution that is all VB or C++ or some such thing or am I missing the boat here. Please help. Thanks PB _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com