[AccessD] OT? - Certification

Charles,

Well said!!!. I left to work for myself after what I saw in the business
world from so called Highly Qualified Graduates.........Ummm, commonly
referred to as regurgitators of info and no people skills whatsoever...

I applaude your position...

Regards
Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Wortz,
Charles
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification


As one that has acquired many degrees and many certifications over the
years, I have found they are only good for getting hired at the types of
organization that I don't want to work for.  I prefer working where I
enjoy the work and they value my performance, not my degrees and
certificates.  I no longer even list any of my degrees and certificates
on my business card.

Charles Wortz
Software Development Division
Texas Education Agency
1701 N. Congress Ave
Austin, TX 78701-1494
512-463-9493
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com] 
Sent: Tuesday 2003 Jun 10 12:14
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification


I got tired of the certification and recertification mess before I even
passed my first one.  New ones came out (or were comming out) before I
could complete my current ones.

I'm pursuing a Masters in IT instead.  At least they don't expire.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification


You hardly have to worry about that.  In a year the entire set of
technology from MS will be different, with new exams to take.  Let's
just hope that they get a raise for every exam they pass.  That'll teach
management to implement such silliness.

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:12 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification


I apologize if this drives the discussion off-track, but I have to
ask...what happens when you've passed all the exams?  No more raises,
ever?

-Christopher-

---- Original Message ----
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com,
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:03:06 +0100

>Hi
>
>Our management have decided to tie our salaries to passing MS .Net
>certification exams.  Does anyone one have any books recommendations 
>(or other resources) specific to passing MCSA and MCSE?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Richard
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