[AccessD] OT? - Certification

I agree with your statement completely.  Personally, I not hold much weight
in either higher education or certifications.  Once you are in the door they
are effectively toilet paper.

However, with your degrees and certifications you have the option of
presenting them if it is convenient for you to do so.

My route was a judgement call for going for higher education rather than
certifications.  I always seem to be put in charge after a time and figured
it to be the best choice.  We'll see how it pans out.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:47 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification


As one that has acquired many degrees and many certifications over the
years, I have found they are only good for getting hired at the types of
organization that I don't want to work for.  I prefer working where I
enjoy the work and they value my performance, not my degrees and
certificates.  I no longer even list any of my degrees and certificates
on my business card.

Charles Wortz
Software Development Division
Texas Education Agency
1701 N. Congress Ave
Austin, TX 78701-1494
512-463-9493
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com] 
Sent: Tuesday 2003 Jun 10 12:14
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification


I got tired of the certification and recertification mess before I even
passed my first one.  New ones came out (or were comming out) before I
could complete my current ones.

I'm pursuing a Masters in IT instead.  At least they don't expire.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification


You hardly have to worry about that.  In a year the entire set of
technology from MS will be different, with new exams to take.  Let's
just hope that they get a raise for every exam they pass.  That'll teach
management to implement such silliness.

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:12 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification


I apologize if this drives the discussion off-track, but I have to
ask...what happens when you've passed all the exams?  No more raises,
ever?

-Christopher-

---- Original Message ----
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com,
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:03:06 +0100

>Hi
>
>Our management have decided to tie our salaries to passing MS .Net 
>certification exams.  Does anyone one have any books recommendations 
>(or other resources) specific to passing MCSA and MCSE?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Richard
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