John Colby
jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Wed Jun 11 18:24:55 CDT 2003
Uhhh... standard disclaimers are more and more prevalent. Thus EVERY valid email will end up being viewed as spam. I use Cloudmark and SpamAssasin. SpamAssasin puts a "[Spam]" in the subject as well as a lengthy discord on why it seems to think it is spam. Content analysis details: (12.50 points, 8 required) EXCUSE_3 (0.1 points) BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list BANG_MORE (0.5 points) BODY: Talks about more with an exclamation! RECEIVE_OFFER (0.5 points) BODY: Receive a special offer EXCUSE_19 (0.9 points) BODY: Claims you opted-in or registered EXCUSE_1 (0.1 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about why you were sent this spam OFFER (0.1 points) BODY: Free Offer OFFERS_ETC (0.6 points) BODY: Stop with the offers, coupons, discounts etc! HTML_LINK_CLICK_HERE (0.1 points) BODY: HTML link text says "click here" HTML_60_70 (0.1 points) BODY: Message is 60% to 70% HTML HTML_WEB_BUGS (0.1 points) BODY: Image tag with an ID code to identify you HTML_MESSAGE (0.1 points) BODY: HTML included in message HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08 (0.9 points) BODY: HTML has images with 600-800 bytes of words HTML_FONT_BIG (0.1 points) BODY: FONT Size +2 and up or 3 and up HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_08 (0.3 points) BODY: HTML has a low ratio of text to image area HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE (0.1 points) BODY: HTML font color is blue NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP (0.5 points) URI: Uses a dotted-decimal IP address in URL RCVD_IN_NJABL (1.0 points) RBL: Received via a relay in dnsbl.njabl.org [RBL check: found 139.200.119.64.dnsbl.njabl.org., type: 127.0.0.4] RCVD_IN_SBL (0.6 points) RBL: Received via SBLed relay, see http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/ [RBL check: found 139.200.119.64.sbl.spamhaus.org.] RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM (0.6 points) RBL: Received via a relay in relays.osirusoft.com [RBL check: found 139.200.119.64.relays.osirusoft.com., type: 127.0.0.6] X_OSIRU_SPAMWARE_SITE (1.1 points) RBL: DNSBL: sender is a Spamware site or vendor FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA (2.5 points) Forged mail pretending to be from Mozilla MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY (1.4 points) 'Content-Type' found without required MIME headers CLICK_BELOW (0.1 points) Asks you to click below MIME_HTML_ONLY (0.1 points) Message only has text/html MIME parts SpamAssasin NEVER gives a false positive. In fact the only false positives I get out of Cloudmark is an occasional newsletter that it seems to think is spam. Between the two systems I get about 140 messages a day sent to the spam folder. It is so reliable that I simply go to the spam folder and delete them all once daily. I do occasionally just scan down them to make sure nothing I want is there. As I said, something like .5% false positives. I end up with about 5-10 spams that don't get caught. Cloudmark allows me to "report" those to a database they use to decide what is spam (probably why the occasional newsletter gets marked as spam). AccessD got reported once by someone (to Cloudmark). I "unreported it" which allows them to get through to me. Other than that, no AccessD messages ever get sent to spam. John W. Colby www.colbyconsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:34 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Repeat Emails If spam checkers start ignoring "standard disclaimers", spammers will start sending messages with nothing but a "standard disclaimer" containing their message :-( On 11 Jun 2003 at 10:25, John Colby wrote: > Doesn't it seem we have the cart before the horse here? If this is a > standard disclaimer for businesses to use, shouldn't spam checkers ignore > it? I know my two spam checkers don't shove these messages into my spam > folder. > > Not that I mind getting rid of this crap from the messages we see... > > John W. Colby > www.colbyconsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan > Carbonnell > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Repeat Emails > > > If they postmasters that add them follow standards, they should start with > '--' or '-- ' (that's two dashes possibly followed by a space, I don't > remeber which one it is) that may give our lovely list admins a possibility > of stripping them that way. > > Bryan Carbonnell > bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca > > >>> CWortz at tea.state.tx.us 11-Jun-03 9:49:59 AM >>> > Jim, > > As Debbie states, those disclaimers are added by their e-mail servers. > Many organizations require them to "Cover Their A**es" so their admins > have automatically added them to all e-mails sent by their e-mail > servers. > > I'm sure our List Administrator would be glad if you could come up with > a way to discover and strip off those disclaimers on incoming e-mails to > the List. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com