Griffiths, Richard
R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk
Fri Mar 7 08:06:15 CST 2003
and one of the major disadvantages is that nobody knows how to ....... Hi using code and CR ocx... how do you run a Crystal Report when the Access Db has 1) a password and/or 2) uses a system mdw Many thanks Richard this was the original thread!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: 07 March 2003 13:23 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports > > One of the major advantages of using Crystal Reports is the ability to > make a > dictionary (list of fields and functions) of complex data structures for > end > users to make their own reports. I have found that this ability "beats" > Access > reports hands down. I still use Access for my canned reports but encourge > end > users to use Crystal if they want on the fly reporting abilities. Plus it > keeps > end users out of the mdb's. > > Scott Marcus > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru] > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:59 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports > > > > Access 2002 and CR 9.0 are > > almost identical in their feature sets. > Charles, > > I thought the same but then I made approx. 50 real-life CR reports for > HRM/Payroll system and my customer was a real guru in both HRM/Payroll > programming/reporting and CR itself (I worked as his subcontractor) - and > I > soon realized that despite the fact that the feature set of MS Access and > CR > seems to be very similar, the real power of CR is in its unique and > looking > at first not very significant feature of allowing to have and manipulate > on > runtime of several (as many as you wish) independent sections/areas of > Report Header/Footer, Page Header/Footer, Group Header/Footer and > Details... > > The only area where I've found MS Access "beats" CR 8.x, which I used, is > when you need in CR to copy and paste (or cut and paste) a group of > controls > within one report or between reports - here CR sometimes goes "crazy" and > you need to realigh controls manualy after paste operation... > > Charles, I'd not like to have this thread to become"religious" debate "CR > vs. MS Access report generator" - let's stop it? - after your > contr-arguments if you wish! :) > > Shamil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wortz, Charles" <CWortz at tea.state.tx.us> > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:37 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports > > > > Shamil, > > > > I just got through with a three day course on what's new in Crystal > > Reports 9.0 and I stand by my statement that Access 2002 and CR 9.0 are > > almost identical in their feature sets. I did not say they were equally > > easy to learn or use, because that is subject to your background > > experience and personal preferences. > > > > I also stand by my assertion that there is no reason to buy CR to > > produce reports from an Access database. > > > > If you have C++, C#, VB or some other platform as your front-end to SQL > > Server or Sysbase or some other database other than Access, then CR > > makes sense. > > > > Charles Wortz > > Software Development Division > > Texas Education Agency > > 1701 N. Congress Ave > > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > > 512-463-9493 > > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru] > > Sent: Thursday 2003 Mar 06 13:19 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports > > > > > Why pay extra for Crystal Reports? > > Sorry for my jumping in, Charles, > > > > I used to use Crystal Reports(CR) to build advanced reports with C++ > > last spring - and I'd say that CR can give 1000 points allowance to MS > > Access reports' designer and still win nevertheless this big handicap... > > On first glance CR looks for a MS Access developer like a very sprawl > > and not as intuitional as MS Access report designer tool but when one > > gets the rules of report generation used by CR they understand that CR > > allows to create reports, which can't be created in MS Access - and I > > think that all of MS Access types of reports can be created by using > > CR... > > > > And of course CR reports created to view in MS Access can be (re-)used > > in VB, C++, DELPHI, on the Web etc.etc.... > > > > Shamil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wortz, Charles" <CWortz at tea.state.tx.us> > > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; <dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:48 PM > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports > > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > May I inquire why you want to use Crystal Reports with Access? Access > > > > > 2002 and Crystal Reports 9.0 are almost identical in their feature > > > sets, so why not use Access for your reports? Why pay extra for > > > Crystal Reports? > > > > > > Charles Wortz > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > > > Sent: Thursday 2003 Mar 06 12:09 > > > To: 'dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com' > > > Cc: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' > > > Subject: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > using code how do you run a Crystal Report when the Access Db has 1) a > > > > > password and/or 2) uses a system mdw > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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