[AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports

Griffiths, Richard R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk
Fri Mar 7 08:06:15 CST 2003


and one of the major disadvantages is that nobody knows how to .......

Hi

using code and CR ocx... how do you run a Crystal Report when the Access Db
has 
1) a password and/or 
2) uses a system mdw

Many thanks

Richard


this was the original thread!!!


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com]
> Sent:	07 March 2003 13:23
> To:	'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports
> 
> One of the major advantages of using Crystal Reports is the ability to
> make a
> dictionary (list of fields and functions) of complex data structures for
> end
> users to make their own reports. I have found that this ability "beats"
> Access
> reports hands down. I still use Access for my canned reports but encourge
> end
> users to use Crystal if they want on the fly reporting abilities. Plus it
> keeps
> end users out of the mdb's.
> 
> Scott Marcus
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:59 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports
> 
> 
> > Access 2002 and CR 9.0 are
> > almost identical in their feature sets.
> Charles,
> 
> I thought the same but then I made approx. 50 real-life CR reports for
> HRM/Payroll system and my customer was a real guru in both HRM/Payroll
> programming/reporting and CR itself (I worked as his subcontractor) - and
> I
> soon realized that despite the fact that the feature set of MS Access and
> CR
> seems to be very similar, the real power of CR is in its unique and
> looking
> at first not very significant feature of allowing to have and manipulate
> on
> runtime of several (as many as you wish) independent sections/areas of
> Report Header/Footer, Page Header/Footer, Group Header/Footer and
> Details...
> 
> The only area where I've found MS Access "beats" CR 8.x, which I used, is
> when you need in CR to copy and paste (or cut and paste) a group of
> controls
> within one report or between reports - here CR sometimes goes "crazy" and
> you need to realigh controls manualy after paste operation...
> 
> Charles, I'd not like to have this thread to become"religious" debate "CR
> vs. MS Access report generator" - let's stop it? - after your
> contr-arguments if you wish! :)
> 
> Shamil
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wortz, Charles" <CWortz at tea.state.tx.us>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports
> 
> 
> > Shamil,
> >
> > I just got through with a three day course on what's new in Crystal
> > Reports 9.0 and I stand by my statement that Access 2002 and CR 9.0 are
> > almost identical in their feature sets.  I did not say they were equally
> > easy to learn or use, because that is subject to your background
> > experience and personal preferences.
> >
> > I also stand by my assertion that there is no reason to buy CR to
> > produce reports from an Access database.
> >
> > If you have C++, C#, VB or some other platform as your front-end to SQL
> > Server or Sysbase or some other database other than Access, then CR
> > makes sense.
> >
> > Charles Wortz
> > Software Development Division
> > Texas Education Agency
> > 1701 N. Congress Ave
> > Austin, TX 78701-1494
> > 512-463-9493
> > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru]
> > Sent: Thursday 2003 Mar 06 13:19
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports
> >
> > > Why pay extra for Crystal Reports?
> > Sorry for my jumping in, Charles,
> >
> > I used to use Crystal Reports(CR) to build advanced reports with C++
> > last spring - and I'd say that CR can give 1000 points allowance to MS
> > Access reports' designer and still win nevertheless this big handicap...
> > On first glance CR looks for a MS Access developer like a very sprawl
> > and not as intuitional as MS Access report designer tool but when one
> > gets the rules of report generation used by CR they understand that CR
> > allows to create reports, which can't be created in MS Access - and I
> > think that all of MS Access types of reports can be created by using
> > CR...
> >
> > And of course CR reports created to view in MS Access can be (re-)used
> > in VB, C++, DELPHI, on the Web etc.etc....
> >
> > Shamil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wortz, Charles" <CWortz at tea.state.tx.us>
> > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; <dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:48 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports
> >
> >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > May I inquire why you want to use Crystal Reports with Access?  Access
> >
> > > 2002 and Crystal Reports 9.0 are almost identical in their feature
> > > sets, so why not use Access for your reports?  Why pay extra for
> > > Crystal Reports?
> > >
> > > Charles Wortz
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
> > > Sent: Thursday 2003 Mar 06 12:09
> > > To: 'dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com'
> > > Cc: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Access and Crystal Reports
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > using code how do you run a Crystal Report when the Access Db has 1) a
> >
> > > password and/or 2) uses a system mdw
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> > > Richard
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