[AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world...

THNX for your info Marty!
Very much appreciated!

>  it isn't worth the hassle to complain
> about some minor functionary or bureaucrat
OK, I decided to reapply for the Visum if they are asking to do so but I'd
like to have some documents left on my hands(unfortunately I didn't make the
copy of the first Visa application)

I'd like to write a letter to the head of the Consulate-General with request
for their help of solving this small misapprehension ASAP - how should I
proceed with them to let me to pass this letter to him and to allow me to
meet with him/his representative and to officially register my letter with
help request and explanation (my vision) of situation (of course without any
complaints)?

> filling in a Green Card  lottery form for permanent
> residence in  US (odds 1:100)
You propose me to immigrate to the States? A plenty of work there and a room
for five people? - I still prefer to stay here in Russia and find a way to
freely travel around the World - should be doable but needs some time to
solve this without immigration to the States...

Shamil

----- Original Message -----
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world...


> I would write it off as the cost of doing business, it isn't worth the
> hassle to complain about some minor functionary or bureaucrat who
> probably doesn't understand all the rules and is too afraid to ask. I
> have run into the same thing with Canadian External Affairs in embassies
> overseas and got into arguments, only to find out it was local citizens
> handling the Visa sections run by one Canadian national who was too busy
> to oversee them what with all his demands of  having to attend functions
> at the local Jockey club and golf course. Lodging a complaint against
> External Affairs is generally useless unless you threaten them with a
> press expose or high political action from their minister.
>   I would get your partner to complain through his Dutch member of
> parliament, if you really
> wanted to raise the issue further.
>
>  By the way the here is a description and cost of a Schengen Visa plus a
> pdf of the form from Dutch
> embassy in Washington.
>
> http://www.netherlands-embassy.org/article.asp?articleref=AR00000396EN
>
>   Of course you could always expend some time filling in a Green Card
> lottery form for permanent residence in  US (odds 1:100)  rather than
> expending the time on a complaint. Better to light a candle than curse
> the darkness.
>
>   http://www.usnis.org/
>
>  I have got my own back at times on Immigration types, once in Lagos
> Nigeria I was asked for
> dash ,mordida or baksheesh; to expedite my getting out of the country at
> the airport. So I reached into my throwdown wallet (in case of robbery)
> and pulled out a fistfull of Canadian Tire money
> (these are discount coupons that look like money in amounts of  10 cents
> through a dollar put out
> by an a Canadian Automotive chain store)  explained to the guy I didn't
> have US cash but here was
> Canadian money. I could barely keep a straight face.
>
> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I'm sorry I'm writing about that here - I just went very crazy today
about
> >what they - Western Embassies and Consulates here and their bosses in Den
> >Haage (Netherlands) are doing...
> >
> >Here is a fresh story:
> >
> >- I applied for business Visum (15 days of staying, one entry) several
days
> >ago for me and my two children(15 and 17 years old)  (IMPORTANT NOTE:
here
> >in Consualate General they ACCEPTED this application for BUSINESS visum
and
> >they checked all the docs carefully) - to make that I prepared all the
> >needed paperwork, get original invitation from my partner from
Netherlands
> >(DHL, second day delivery = rather expensive), even changed the passports
to
> >make them fresh new (some more bucks) because at first they said that the
> >ones I had aren't good, PAID for their "services"(not that much but
should
> >be enough for a rather good dinner for three I think) and I started to
> >wait...
> >And BTW I spent quite some time on all that prepations and quite some
> >bucks in total...
> >
> >Do you know what answer I've got today? (in fact my Netherland's partner
was
> >called from Den Haage - Ministry of Foreign Affairs) - they said I should
> >have applied for TOURISTIC not BUSINESS visum because I plan to go with
my
> >kids but as I mentioned above here they CHECKED all the docs and ACCEPTED
> >them...
> >
> >Should I fight with them looking for truth with the risk to be written in
> >their "black lists" forever?
> >Or should I give up and accept the "rules" of their game? - there is a
whole
> >business around them here - and one (including any kinds of criminals
etc.)
> >can buy for money any kind of Visum and freely enter West Europe or
States
> >or Canada...
> >
> >I wanted to make it direct and according to all the laws and I didn't
want
> >to pay to the "shadow business around them" any extra money - and I've
got
> >NOTHING - or I'd better say I and my partner in Netherlands got real
> >mockery... And they were harsh not only with me - they were that hostile
> >with my Netherland's partner too - how it comes?
> >
> >Shamil
> >
> >P.S. I know, probably Russian Embassies do something like that there in
West
> >Europe - but should it justify what they are doing here these ambassadors
of
> >"civilized" free world?
> >
> >--
> >e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
> >Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
> >
> >
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